1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: With the Heads Podcast Network. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to Slow It Down. I'm your host, 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: PJ Harding, and this podcast, if you're you here, is 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: all about how we can find more peace in the chaos. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: I think I learned this year as I went back 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: into work full time juggling a toddler, that life is. 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Just going to be chaotic for a while. 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: And so instead of trying to avoid the chaos, I 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: want to embrace the chaos, but find ways that we 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 2: can stay sane and grounded through these years. Today on 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: the show, I am joined by the incredibly successful Jules Matthews. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: She is the founder of Two Islands, which is a 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: range of pure potent supplements that enhance beauty, gut health, sleep, 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: stress relief, and more. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: She's the mum of. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: Three gorgeous children, including twins, so she's got a bit 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: on her plate. And in this episode, do we dive 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: into how Jewels manages her week? 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Literally? I want to dissect it. 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by how people prioritize and organize. 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: Are they, you know, really routine based? Do they go 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: with the flow? Well? Jewels shares her experience. 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 2: She also talks about what she's had to sacrifice along 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: the way, what her non negogiables are, and what success 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: means to her. I really hope you enjoyed this week's 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: episode with Jills Matthews. Hey, Jiles, thank you so much 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: for joining me on the podcast today. 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 29 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: Now I've caught you on a Monday morning when this 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: is being recorded. 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: What do your weekdays usually look like? 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: Weekdays normally? 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm in the office four days a week, 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: so Monday to Thursday, and then I have I'm at 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: home with my quins on Friday. So yeah, just get 36 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 4: to work as early as I can. Some mornings as eight, 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 4: some mornings it's nine, and then just at the office 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: for the day. So meetings, try and fit in at 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: least one gym class. I've actually gotten better at planning 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: my meetings and my day around the gym, Like I'll 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: lock in my classes for the week and I'm like 42 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: I'm out, Like that's it kind of a non negotiable 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: now that I've just started doing. Otherwise it just falls 44 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 4: to the wayside. And then I leave around four and 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: I go and pick the kids up from daycare, get 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: them home for the torturess. 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then normally, you know, bombs and washing or 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: to get back on my laptop and do some emails. 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's pretty the days of full transfit as 50 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: much as I can. But there's definitely a branch being 51 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: at the office, that's for sure. 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: So routine, Like, have you always been quite so? 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Are you someone that prioritizes routine or is that something 54 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: more recently in your life? 55 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: No, Like routine keeps me kind of sane. 56 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like when I'm at work, it's chaos and you know, 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: problems flight at me. 58 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: I'm putting up fires all the time. 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: So if I can have my week days as structured 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: as possible with routine, I know what's happening. That kind 61 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: of helps me know what's coming up next to a 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: point like I'm fine with change and I'm fine if 63 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm like pervot and thanks flight at me from different angles, 64 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: but just having that No, I'm going to the office 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: Monday to Thursday, having an idea of what meetings I've got. 66 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: That's what I need to like my mental sanity. 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: And what about your weekends? 68 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: Are they little bit more lucy goos or do you 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: also need a bit of a plan. 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, definitely And I'm very much a shon body. 71 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I prioritize the kids on the weekend because they're 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: a daycare for most of the week, so it's just 73 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: family time doing things with the kids. But definitely we're 74 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 4: at the age I have to get them out of 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: the house because they just fight. 76 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: So it's a zoo. 77 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: Or really awesome things like that. But my life now 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: is like no time for social It's the kids are 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: first and then work and then I'm like socials kind of. 80 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: I talked to my friends, I may not see them 81 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: as much. 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: I'm not into going out and partying anymore because hungover 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: when your parents a parent, you couldn't have at you 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: couldn't ask for anything more more horrific. So yeah, it's 85 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: just family time seeing my parents going on plate dds. 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: That was going to be my next question around that 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: social aspect of your life, because you are so busy, 88 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: you're obviously the founder of Tow Islands, You've got three children, 89 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: and you have to make sacrifices in these seasons. There 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: are times or you just can't do it all. And 91 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 2: did you find that kind of hard that transition into 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: you know, your business absolutely killing it and your kids 93 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: at what point did you realize that you had to 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: say goodbye to some of your old ways. 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 4: I think it just kind of came naturally, because again, 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: when you're a parent, you don't like person me. I 97 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: do not want to be hungover, and when I would 98 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: go out on a party, I would be at the 99 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: opposite Monday, and my brain's not at full capacity, like 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: I'm feeling a little bit dummy. So I definitely prioritize 101 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: like sleep and just keeping my brain as sharp as possible. 102 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: So it was like, okay, here are the kids. 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: By to some of the social life for now, and 104 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: like you say, it's a season, right like like forever, people. 105 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: Come a time when the kids are a bit older 106 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: and they're a bit. 107 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: More independent and not don't rely on me so much 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: that I'll venture back out to the cloud maybe or 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: you know, I still. 110 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: Don't do that. 111 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm not an absolute yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 112 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: I see my girlfriends, but it's not like it used 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: to be. 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: It's more long lunches, a more wholesome yeah yeah yeah, 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. 116 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: So when you say, you know, the sleep, are you 117 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: in bed at a certain time every night? 118 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: I try to be like sleeps the most important thing 119 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: on my list of like wellness things that I try 120 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: and prioritize. 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: So yes, absolutely, Like ideally I'm. 122 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: In bed by nine thirty, but it's really hard sometimes 123 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 4: because you know, some nights the kids don't want to 124 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: go to sleep, and they will, you know, it takes 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: to like eight thirty and I'm rolling out of one 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: of their rooms, and then I need some time to 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, clean the kitchen or if I just 128 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: want to watch one episode of TV, have a bit 129 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: of a chill out time. 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's all can all be different. 131 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: But on the nights if I'm up and I'm like 132 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: in bed at eleven, I definitely notice nex say, I 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: just don't feel as switched on. 134 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: And do you have like a remedy or something you 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: go to in those days where you're feeling shit with 136 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: you know, terrible sleep the night before. Do you have 137 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: any little jewels hacks that we can tap into. 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: Like always try and get some exercise in. Yeah, it 139 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: absolutely helps. I try not to drink coffee. 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: Because it just screws your adrenals, like it's just that 141 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: little spike. 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: Yes, the rest of the day can kind of go downhill. Yeah, 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: just making sure I'm eating good food. But when I'm 144 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: just so busy at the office, like I'm not, I 145 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: don't really have time to think about being tired. It's 146 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: just the day is so quick and so full of things. 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: I don't really need to sit back and thank. 148 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: God, I'm tired. 149 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: It's almost like being in the office energizes me, being 150 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: around other people energizes me. 151 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: In the Senate, I think it would be very different. 152 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: Yes, which crops all the stat of her moms, because 153 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: like Friday at home with my girls is enough. 154 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, love then, love my children. But man, it's hard. 155 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: It's just all day people, are you? 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: I think also just with the expectations of the times 157 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: we're living in. You know, you are running a business 158 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: and we don't have the villages that used to have, 159 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And so there's so much 160 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: expectation to be succeeding in all these kinds of areas 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: to you, how do you kind of balance your success, 162 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: like measure your success? When someone says what does success 163 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: mean to you? How would you define it? 164 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: What a success mean to me? Honestly, just been out 165 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: at like having a business. It's I can come to 166 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 4: it all this free day and I've you know, I've 167 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: got my team and we're creating new products. 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: I think long terms, what does success look like for me? 169 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: Maybe been out of moved to another country with the kids, 170 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: and being out of work somewhere else. 171 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: I always sound like I just want to pack everything 172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: up and move to a little village in Italy and 173 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: like work in a coffee shop. Yeah, I don't know, 174 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: or like going to ballet for a half a year. 175 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: Been able to do both, like spend more time with 176 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: the kids probably and also been out of work at 177 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: the same time, because both of those things are really 178 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: important to me and what I love doing. It's just yeah, 179 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: right now, that's so little and having them at home 180 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: plus working and is not also I really have to 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: separate the two, which is while on the weekend I 182 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: like prioritize them. 183 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 184 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe yeah success, Yeah, moving to a little collision, Italy, 185 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll see. 186 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. 187 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: What actually got you into the health industry in the 188 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: first place, because it was you started studying nutrition after 189 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: being in business, Is that right? 190 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? I studied, so I studied business and then I 191 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: started I moved to Sydney and I started studying nutrition 192 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: and I was a vegetarian, and I all like was 193 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: making weird and wonderful recipes in the kitchen to accommodate. 194 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: To my current diet. 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: And then I just got really interested in the nutrition 196 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: side of things and what different foods do do your 197 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 4: body and how they can influence how you feel. And yeah, 198 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: was in Sydney and I didn't really have to work, 199 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 4: so I went and study, and yeah. 200 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: Was there something that made you go, right, like I 201 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: want to be healthy? Like do you know how sometimes 202 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: people have those experiences in life, whether they know someone 203 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: that gets really on Well, was it like that for 204 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: you or were you just kind of really interested in 205 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: being the best version of yourself? 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: Well, like I. 207 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: Became a vegetarian, but like ethical reasons, yes, So I 208 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 4: just I'm not anymore, Like, yeah, it. 209 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: Was very much typical reasons. 210 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: Like I would watch videos on YouTube of like whales, 211 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 4: spingport and like horrific things. 212 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: I'll talk to myself and I'm watching. 213 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: Them, So I just, yeah, became vegetarian and then needed 214 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: to make recipes. None of my family weren't so I 215 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: would need to come up with recipes that fit into 216 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 4: my lifestyle. And then yeah, I just kind of went 217 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: from there really like I try all these weird like 218 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, the live and detop stufe. 219 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I remember. 220 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: How is that even allowed? 221 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: I know, I know times you know what, times have 222 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: changed and there was a lot of that stuff back then, 223 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: but equally now, like it's so hard to wait through 224 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: all of the health and wellness information out there. 225 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 226 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: Like, do you have any taps on after being in 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: the industry, people trying to work out what is the 228 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: best thing for them. 229 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: It's there's so much information out there, which on one 230 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: hand is and it's so easily accessible, but you've got 231 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: all different types of people preaching different things like carnival diet, vegan, 232 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: you know, all the different things that you can do, 233 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: and there's not one size that fits all. Right, I 234 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: think we can all agree that eating less processed food, 235 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 4: to sleep, drinking more water, exercising as much as we can, 236 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: reducing alcohol consumption. I think we can all agree that 237 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: doing more of that just you feel better mentally physically. 238 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: But you know, as if a. 239 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 4: Big and diet works for you, it's not going to 240 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 4: work for everyone. Same with like carnivore, So I think 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: just take from it what suits you, and like, I 242 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: love trying I'll try all the wellness Dad's trends just 243 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: because it's it interests me. 244 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: And I love how something can make me feel. 245 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: And I definitely know what works for me now, like 246 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: to what briggers me to not feel great and what 247 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: makes me feel a really good. 248 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: So, yeah, it is a real challenge. 249 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: With people listening to information and thinking that that's taking 250 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: it as gospel, yes, and being really having real tunnel 251 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: vision and living in their kind of own echo chamber 252 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 4: and not being open to trying other things or listening 253 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 4: to information that potentially goes against a belief that they 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: currently have. 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, one hundred and with to Islands, was that 256 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: kind of the inspiration behind it? You know, try it 257 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: because you've obviously been interested in health. You just wanted 258 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: to find the quickest way to make people feel better 259 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: in a way. 260 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like learning about the body and how 261 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: what we eat can have a real influence on how 262 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 4: we feel. 263 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: Really interested me. 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: And then yeah, when I moved back to New Zealand 265 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 4: after I started step, after I finished that in Sorry, 266 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: I couldn't find a plant proteine that I love, So 267 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: I was like okay, I'll make one, and is kind 268 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 4: of how the brand started. And I also found it 269 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: really frustrating when I was studying just how much like 270 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: there's so much information out there, and some brands can 271 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: really talk down to you or they try and be 272 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 4: too clinical of science, and it's really hard for the 273 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: average person to understand. So I wanted to really simplify things. 274 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: And I guess yeah, part of it was a selfish 275 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: reason that I couldn't find a product I really liked, 276 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: so I wanted to make my own. I hadn't worked 277 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: for someone for so long, I didn't want to work 278 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 4: for anyone else. Yes, a few reasons why. And now 279 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: again it is like, you know, the goal of the 280 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: brand is just like to make people healthier, but whatever 281 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: that looks like to you, because health is different to everyone, right, 282 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: So just trying to make people feel better about themselves, 283 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: you know, if you want to look better, whatever that is, 284 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 4: and just creating products that are simple, easy to understand 285 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: and can fit into your existing lifestyle. 286 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: You must be pretty resilient and strong to run a 287 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: business like I can imagine there's a lot of setbacks 288 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: and things that make you question your path. Have there 289 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: been a few moments where you're like, oh my god, 290 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can do this all the time. 291 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, give us some examples, especially. 292 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: At the moment, like things are like things are challenging 293 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: in the market. 294 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: We're seeing lots of businesses closing down. 295 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 4: People being made redundant, people not having as much you know, 296 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: discretionary income. So it is, you know, it's a real challenge. 297 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 4: And sometimes I'm like, someone give us some good news, right, 298 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: and like it's it's really hard for people. And yes, 299 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: but especially with supplements as we look more into the 300 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: export market, like it's such a challenge with all the 301 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: regulatory pieces in different. 302 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: Markets, and I'm like why did I make a supplement? 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: Like why can I not just have a food? It's 304 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: so much easier. 305 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a lot of times I'm like why 306 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: am I doing this? But you know, I really do 307 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: love what I do and I'm so grateful that I 308 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: get to do it. 309 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: And what do you do when you have those moments 310 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: of self doubt and you're like I just got on 311 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: to it, Like is there. 312 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: Someone you turn to? Do you over a walk? Like 313 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: how do you get that motivation? 314 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: Bag? Yeah, I think just stepping away from things and 315 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: you're just talking to friends. I've got people that I 316 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: will like sound boards, so I'll just call them in 317 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: chat things through, or just even talk to my team 318 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: because we're kind of very open and transparent with what 319 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: is shared. Like we're a small team and we know 320 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: each other and what we do on the weekends and 321 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: talk about our personal life. So even if it's just God, 322 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 4: this is so hard, and we just kind of sit 323 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: down and talk about things and how we can come 324 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: to a solution together. 325 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: So, yeah, exercise and talking things through. 326 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: And I think that's one thing that I've learned with 327 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: age is that people are always. 328 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: Willing to offer advice. 329 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 4: And talk things through with you instead of I used 330 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: to kind of hide things away, not share things. 331 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: Yes, and I definitely learned like. 332 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: Just don't don't hold it and talk to people about 333 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: it because people are always happy to help support you. 334 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 335 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: Is there a cloak that you sometimes refer back to 336 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: or some kind of like mandra in life that when 337 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: times you get to do get tolf that you think, Okay, okay, 338 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: this is good, don't forget it. 339 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: I'm like I. 340 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: Always say to people, like my mantra is this is temporary. 341 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: Like that comes especially in business and in parenting, Like 342 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 4: some nights when I'm like trying to get a child 343 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: down and it's been like an hour, and I'm like, 344 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: it's like, say, calm as temporary, this is not going 345 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: to be. It's not going to be like the spare bit. 346 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 347 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, That's got me through a lot of really challenging. 348 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: Days like this is temporary. It's like everything's the season. 349 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: Right and so hard to remember in the moment though 350 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: sometimes I'd have freaking just. 351 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: I just felt so overwhelmed this morning. 352 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 2: My toddler, bless him, here's the best, so much character, 353 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: but because they just get so strong worled, and you 354 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: just feel so overwhelmed. Sometimes you've got to be work 355 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: at a certain time and the world feels like it's 356 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 2: falling in and then you're like, hang on, I'm going 357 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: to look back on this moment and wish that I 358 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: could do it again. Like you know, it's it's so 359 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: hard to try and be really present and grateful and 360 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: those really overwhelming moments. 361 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. 362 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 4: No, I so can understand that. It is, like it's yeah, 363 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: can be some days can be really really really challenging, 364 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: but it's like, Okay, this is not going to last forever. 365 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 4: It's not going to last forever, and it's my thing. 366 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 4: It's just so important to be and if you if 367 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: you do have a job and you are working, have 368 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: a career, just to be like in a job that 369 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: you like and that you love. Otherwise, if home's really hard, 370 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: going to a job that you don't like. 371 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: And I know that probably comes from a place of privilege, because. 372 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 4: Not if everyone can do that and can work in 373 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: a job that they love, they just have to get 374 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: any job. 375 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: But I think for me, especially when. 376 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: Home is really challenging and the kids are top, I 377 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: know that I've got my kind of little outlet of 378 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: work and vice versa. When works for the card, I 379 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 4: know I can go home to my babies and got 380 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: them a Cardlin. 381 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, what makes you the most proud? 382 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a careful I don't. 383 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 4: Know, probably getting customer feedback from customers of how a 384 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: product like we've got a lactation support product. 385 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: It's our hero product. If you've got low milk supply, 386 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: it helps supposed to milk supply. 387 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 4: It's just one capsule a day, and the feedback we 388 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: get from that is incredible. And it could be a 389 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: mum was really stressed out and had anxiety because she 390 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: was not able to breastpait her child, or she was going. 391 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: Back to work and married she would be able to pump. 392 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 4: So the feedback from that, for example, makes me really 393 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: proud because I know as a mom myself had three 394 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 4: children and tried or breasted them that it can be 395 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: so hard. A solution to that, like, I'm like, yeah, great, 396 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: that that makes me proud. 397 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, those days are so vulnerable. Those days are so 398 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: vulnerable for new mums. Jes, I want you to paint 399 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: like your perfect dreamy day. You get to slow it down, 400 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: you get to do whatever you like. What does the 401 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: day look like for you? 402 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, it's sunny. I wake up, it's blue sky. 403 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Are you really affected by the weather. 404 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: I am at the moment. I am craving spring in summer. 405 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so affected by the weather, like waking up blue sky. 406 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 4: The children wake up and are in a good mood, 407 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: and it's probably going for a walk together, going and 408 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 4: having something delicious to eat, dropping the kids off to 409 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: my parents, going for a massage or something, just having 410 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 4: some time along to myself. 411 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: And then just being back at home, Like I. 412 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: Really am a hummon body and just love being hottering 413 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 4: around the house. 414 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: Which sounds probably people are like, you're. 415 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 4: So lame that when you do get older and you 416 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: are a parent, been able to have those. 417 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: Slow days with your kids. 418 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: It's like it's really important because they are so little 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: and not only little for a short time. 420 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: How important is it creating like good energy in the home. 421 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Are you big on that? Yes, talk me throughout. What 422 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: do you do? 423 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh? 424 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 4: Well, it's always looks like a tornado as in my house, 425 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: and that really stretches me in and I try, I 426 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: try not to worry so much. 427 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, the house doesn't need to be that 428 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: you can just hang out with a child. 429 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 4: But for me mentally, and I know this is the 430 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 4: case for so many other people, so many of my friends. 431 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: Can you can feel really overwhelmed when the house is 432 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: me see, and I'm like, I can't go to bed 433 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: unless something's everything's clean. 434 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: So just having the house as clean as possible. 435 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: Like fresh sheets on the bed, the kitchens clean, the 436 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: fridge is store and just. 437 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that helps me overwhelms what I never used to 438 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: think that affected me. 439 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: That's like a mum thing. I don't know what it is. 440 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: Is that like about it when I was playing. 441 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: I know it's like the continuation of the nesting period 442 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: or whatever, and you just have to feel like you 443 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: have to get everything tidy. 444 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: I just never feel like it's good enough, do you 445 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 446 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I'm like I wish I could have a 447 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: cleaner And I used to like think my mom was 448 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: crazy when she was. 449 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Like, yes, do you have like one zen room in 450 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: the house where you can retreat to? 451 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: Oh, my bedroom for sure, yes, yes, like love my 452 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 4: room and it needs to be clean and tidy and 453 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 4: set up and the bed needs to be made. Yeah, 454 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: Or in the garden, to be honest, like being outside 455 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: in the garden. 456 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: Yes, when it's nice, just go and hang out in 457 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: the garden. 458 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: I think it's really important finding like those simple luxuries 459 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: that you can kind of weave throughout your day so 460 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: amongst the. 461 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: Chaos, you can be like, ah, that takes you back. 462 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 2: Whether it's like a nice soap or like a nice 463 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: linen on your beers, it's just those tiny simple things 464 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: that kind of like bring a bit of sanity. 465 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: Do you find that Yes, No, absolutely so, Like even 466 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 4: getting home and having. 467 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 3: A shower, yes, yeah, when all the kids are in 468 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: bed and just being clean. Yeah, I know. 469 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: And that again, I think that really is an age 470 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: thing and it's making me feel really old. 471 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: It is just you need that. 472 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm so so late. Are you a meditation kind of girl? 473 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: No? 474 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Do you know? I'm not. 475 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 4: And I've tried to meditate, and so I probably should meditate, 476 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: So I fa find it really hard. 477 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm not. I like, I. 478 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: Don't even really like yoga like I need if I'm exercising, 479 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: I really need to like sweat, and I love like 480 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: high intensity workout like that's like I'm an act of laxa. 481 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't read books. I don't really sit and watch TV. 482 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: Like I need to be doing things and that's what 483 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: keeps me calm. So like I just love the chaos, 484 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: like I need things to be busy and pull on 485 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: and people are the wades and going. 486 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: That's really no, it's not though, because like I think 487 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: people get put off by meditation. They're like, there's something 488 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: wrong with me that I can't do it. I don't 489 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: know that there's one size fits all, Like yes, it 490 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: can be very beneficial, but you might get exactly the 491 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: same or even better, you know, pay off from a workout, 492 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: And I think if that works for you, fing do it. 493 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: There's no guilt bad things about that. That's great. 494 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would listen to like the meditation lady Jennifer Person. 495 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like. 496 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: A yoga nidra. 497 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: Meditation talking at I've completely forgot what it's called, but 498 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: I'll sometimes listen to her. 499 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: Before I go to bed. 500 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: So like that, you find the guy I had one 501 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: slightly easier than just the silence of your brain where 502 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: it starts going to wake up. 503 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I could. 504 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: Some people do meditate, and I know that it's absolutely 505 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: incredible for you, and I love that there's more research 506 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 4: coming out about how beneficial it is. Yeah, it's just 507 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: not that I've set time aside to really try and 508 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 4: be good at. 509 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: So you've obviously achieved a lot in your life. 510 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: Do you find that you're a real big goal setter 511 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: and manifesto like, do you have kind of discipline behind 512 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: all of the stuff that you're achieving? Are you quite 513 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: intentional with it or do you find that this is 514 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: sort of just come as you've kind of followed what 515 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: feels good. 516 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that I'm not like want to write things 517 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: down in terms of goals or no, I'm probably a 518 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 4: bit more onehanded. Really interesting, yeah again, and I think 519 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: that just is why I kind of love the chaos. 520 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 4: I love just things being thrown at me, problem solution, 521 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 4: problem solution, Like that's just. 522 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: How I love to operate. 523 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: So no, but I definitely have people on my team 524 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: who are like that, and I think that's is the 525 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 4: best balance. So I'll have ideas and I'm like, it's 526 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 4: just like the other day, there was a product that 527 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 4: we I was like, hey, why don't we make this? 528 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: And we've already started formulating and looking at packaging and 529 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: it wasn't even part of like our MPD and our 530 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: MPD pipeline, but I was like, why. 531 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: Don't we do this? And we're like, okay, cool, and 532 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: we can bick. 533 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: My agile and our team and do things pretty quickly 534 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: and change our mind on the things if we want. 535 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: So, No, I do not. 536 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: Have that's interesting. 537 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: I would have thought that you're a big goal setter 538 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: looking at you, so that's that's funny. Do you have 539 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: like quite a strong instinct, like good gutting instinct. 540 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 4: Most of the time, I've definitely done things and I'm like, oh, 541 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: that was the wrong idea, like that I should have 542 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: not done that. 543 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: But most the time, yeah, I'll. 544 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: Definitely act on like this doesn't feel right, or let's 545 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: look into this more, or yeah, but I'm definitely like, 546 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: let's just most of the time take a risk, just 547 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 4: do it, especially if it's something that's low risks, like 548 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: why don't we just. 549 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: Give it a try. Whereas I've got someone on the 550 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 3: team who's very risk adverse. So it's just a really 551 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 3: good balance. 552 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 4: And it's me sometimes because I am quite left a 553 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: field and sometimes I need someone to bring me back 554 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 4: down to earth. 555 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, no, let's think about this first. So yeah, no, 556 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: I love that you think that. 557 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, fabit, Well, I don't know, you just you 558 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: kind of I just thought maybe you'd be like, Okay, 559 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: this is what I want to achieve with the next 560 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: couple of years. But I love that you've kind of 561 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: just rolled, you know, by the city of your pants 562 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: and just go on with it. 563 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have big plans to. 564 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 4: Like some people start businesses and they want to sell 565 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: it in five years or something, whereas I've never seen 566 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: the plan with me I didn't really have a plan 567 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 4: when I started to Island, so it was okay, I'm 568 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: just speaking of protein, and here we are nearly seven 569 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: years later. 570 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: It was never let's. 571 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: Create this and sell it. There's nothing wrong with that, 572 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: of course, but that was just not how I saw 573 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 4: things panning out. And I think, just I love so 574 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: love what I do, and I can see myself doing 575 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: it forever, plus other things, these other things that I 576 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: want to do in terms of businesses. But yeah, there's 577 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: no like right on this data, I hope where our 578 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: revenues up here and I'm going to sell it. I 579 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 4: just keep building and keep adding more products, expanding into 580 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: other markets. That's kind of as far as I've got 581 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: with in terms of like goals of the business. 582 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I love it. 583 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's obviously working very well for you. I'm going 584 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: to wrap those podcasts up with a bit of advice 585 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 2: that you would in part to your younger eighteen year 586 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: old self, Jewels and what you would say, like, knowing 587 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: everything that you've been through, what would be the biggest 588 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: piece of advice you give to young James. 589 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: Do you know what I was talking about with the 590 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: friend the other day, because I was like, someone's like, 591 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: would you have any more kids? And I was like, 592 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 4: I absolutely would if they weren't so expensive. 593 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: But I was like, I just don't think my boobs. 594 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: Could oh oh god. 595 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: Even yeah, my eighteen year OLDLF like enjoy your body, 596 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: Like enjoy your body, you know. I was so hard 597 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: on myself, and looking back, I was like, what was 598 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 4: I worried about? Very yeah, very insecure about my body 599 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: and how I looked, And I wish I didn't because 600 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 4: when you're eighteen, you book, I mean you look. Yeah, 601 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: everyone looks great at every age, but when you're eighteen, 602 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: you're so you can be so hard on yourself and 603 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: comparing yourself to other people, and like, just I should 604 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: have enjoyed it, and also things get better, Like I 605 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: think when I went to school, so many friends had 606 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: plans and what they wanted to be when they were older, 607 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 4: and I had no idea what I wanted to do, 608 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: and I felt kind of a bit. 609 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: Like an outcast, and like was this something wrong with me? 610 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: Because I didn't know what I wanted to do and 611 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: everyone else did, so like everything works. 612 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Out, I love. 613 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: I had that exact same thought about the body thing 614 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: the other day it was my birthday and all of 615 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: these memories came off and I was like, I remember 616 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: thinking I had such huge thighs, Dude, I was like 617 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: so tight and toned and my skin was flawless. 618 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Like the things that you worry about and get caught 619 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: up on. Yeah, it's not. 620 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: It's so shitty that it's not until ten years later 621 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: that it really kicks and how good things were. And 622 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: then you're like, well, shit, I don't appreciate this now, 623 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm never going to appreciate it. 624 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: What's the point. But I'll say this, and I'll. 625 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: Continue being really critical on myself, saying my head's really 626 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: renkle today, do you know what I mean? 627 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: And this was before you know, like social media came about. 628 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine what it's going to be like 629 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: the our kids when they're older and the expectations that 630 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: they put on themselves. So yeah, I hope that there's 631 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: AE and things change, same. 632 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Change, But I feel like the system just needs to crash. 633 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: Everything just needs to go down and we need to 634 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: restart a Jels, It has been so nice to actually 635 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: catch up with you. We've done a few dems in 636 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: the past, so this has been nice. To properly chat 637 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 2: and it's been awesome to have an insight into your 638 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: life behind the scenes of Two Islands and your supermumming life. 639 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for popping on the podcast. 640 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 641 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: Well, that was slowed down with Jils Matthews, and that 642 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: was another example of when I hadn't actually upgraded my 643 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: Zoom membership. It was recorded a while actually, and I 644 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: would have loved for that chat to have gone longer, 645 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: but unfortunately I kept getting the little notification saying this 646 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: conversation is about to end, so it did rush a 647 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: little bit towards the end. But some of my big 648 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: tagways from that chat were, I think just reinforcing when 649 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: you look at a successful person, you think they've got 650 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: it all, but the reality is for Jewels, she has 651 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: had to sacrifice, and that sacrifice for. 652 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Her right now is social life. 653 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: You know, she's putting everything into business and family time 654 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: that she doesn't have the energy for social and you 655 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: have to realize that we can't do everything at once. 656 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: I still love the quote you can have it all, 657 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: you just can't have it at the same time or 658 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: have it now. You can have everything, just not all 659 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: at once. 660 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: That's it. 661 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: So I really liked hearing that honesty from her. Also 662 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: the mantra that she uses this is temporary, which I 663 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: need to repeat to myself all the time, particularly being 664 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: a mom or working and running a business, when you 665 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: have those really hard days, this is temporary, and you 666 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: look back and you wish that. 667 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: You really absorbed it in the moment. 668 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: Going into the newborn phase again, because I've got baby 669 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: number two coming in April, i am so conscious of 670 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,719 Speaker 2: really trying my hardest to remember that this too shall pass. 671 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: I also like. 672 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: That she admitted that she's not into your traditional meditation. 673 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: I think people can get really you know. 674 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: I think it's easy to feel really inferior when people 675 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: talk about the benefits of the time of meditation, and 676 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: for some people it's just not them. So I love 677 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: how she talked about exercise and how that gives her 678 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: that feeling of, you know, freshness and feeling better. So 679 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: meditation looks different on everyone, and maybe a guided meditation 680 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: is a really good option because there are so many apps. 681 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: I use the in Sight timer app, which is great. 682 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: You can you can actually do a timer on there, 683 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: or you can have guided meditations. 684 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: There's lots of music. 685 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's just one of many many apps, so 686 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: you can go check them out that I loved chatting 687 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: with Jewels. 688 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: She has got such good products. 689 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: I literally just tried the Electrolytes last weekend because pregnant 690 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: going into summer and so good. In fact, all their 691 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: products I've tried are really good. If you want to 692 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: see all of the range, you can check out to 693 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 2: alansco dot com, or if you want to follow more 694 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: of Jewels online, you can check her out at Jules 695 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: Matthews Jules Underscore Matthews on Instagram. Hope you're enjoyed the 696 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: chat and I'll see you next week for another episode. 697 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: Will slow it down