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Speaker 1: Opinion Edit, Informed, Unapologetic, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: You're welcome today, State of the Place, Hey, the new

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Speaker 2: governors and for a word, a new dart around jobs

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Speaker 2: for you this morning. Looks like there's real growth there too.

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Speaker 2: Corey Kent, you know the name. He's in the country

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Speaker 2: with Jason el Dean, so he's in for some music

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Speaker 2: chat after eight o'clock this morning. Catherine Fields in Europe,

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Speaker 2: Rod Little does the UK wos Posky, Welcome to the day,

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Speaker 2: seven past six, now this time around the Brook van

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Speaker 2: Velden lead. Employment law changes which I've got passed in

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Speaker 2: Parliament a couple of days ago have been described as

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Speaker 2: a shakeup. In fact, some call it a major shakeup.

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Speaker 2: But as someone who well remembers the Employment Contracts Act

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Speaker 2: and Bill birch Watt's being offered as merely a writing

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Speaker 2: of a badly out of whack employment market, the usual

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Speaker 2: whining from the unions has ensued. In a nutshell. There's

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Speaker 2: a limit on personal grievance procedures. It defines what a

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Speaker 2: contractor is as opposed to an employee. The thirty day

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Speaker 2: trial is gone. If you earn a lot ie over

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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars, you can't go an employer for

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Speaker 2: wrongfuld dismissal. I actually have experience in this area. I

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Speaker 2: was effectively effectively sacked by TBN said about twenty five

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Speaker 2: years ago. I was on over two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Under that particular law or under this law, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: have gone after them. But guess what, I didn't go

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Speaker 2: after them anyway? Why? Because who wants to work for

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Speaker 2: people that treat you that way? And that, in essence

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Speaker 2: is a lot of what the workplace is actually about.

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Speaker 2: There are bad employers and good employers and a lot

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Speaker 2: of employers in between. Rules are based on worst case scenarios.

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Speaker 2: It's never been you'll be surprised to hear this. It's

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Speaker 2: never been a better time to be a worker in

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Speaker 2: this country. I mean, yes, jobs are tight as of late,

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Speaker 2: but if you are good and determined, you can one

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Speaker 2: get work because good people are hideously hard to find,

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Speaker 2: and two you can succeed quickly. Most people and I

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Speaker 2: cite forty five years in the workplace here at the

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Speaker 2: very least mean well, many are actually quite good work

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Speaker 2: should be about enjoyment and learning and development of skills

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Speaker 2: and the climbing of ladders. If you are bogged down

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Speaker 2: in worst case scenarios, you go nowhere. Equally, as an employer,

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Speaker 2: how do you grow your business when you're ankle tapped

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Speaker 2: by a mindset that infers your bad news? So all

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Speaker 2: sorts of guard rails need to be enacted in law.

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Speaker 2: Bill Birch's law was not the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: Brook van Velden's won't be either. The workplace recipe should

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Speaker 2: not be complex, work hard, you do well. If you're

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Speaker 2: slack and entitled, you need to be sacked. If you're

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Speaker 2: young and inexperienced, you don't get to be the boss

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Speaker 2: in your second week. Not all your personal problems are

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Speaker 2: your employers' problems. Not all employers are out to get you.

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Speaker 2: Unions buying larger trouble, negative and potentially ruinous, and I've

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Speaker 2: yet to see one that has the country's best interests

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Speaker 2: at heart. We're all in this together. Too much employment

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Speaker 2: law pits us against each other, and no one wins.

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Speaker 2: Van Velden's laws are fine. No one is going to die.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Inflation read for the UK it's not bad and that's

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Speaker 2: the sort of thing that you battle PM needs.

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Speaker 3: You may have seen this morning that inflation has come

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Speaker 3: down again now to three percent and it's scheduled to

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Speaker 3: come down further. That will affect all of you because

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Speaker 3: that's not just a statistic, that is how much it

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Speaker 3: costs to do things Meantime.

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Speaker 2: Robert Jenerick, former Tory newly minted reform chancellor and waiting,

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Speaker 2: he has his own economic vision.

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Speaker 4: I commit to you today that if we win the

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Speaker 4: next election, reform will diffuse the benefits bomb that is

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Speaker 4: set to bankrupt Britain. We are developing the most comprehensive

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Speaker 4: plan for welfare reform in British politics.

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Speaker 2: As we celebrate Zoe Silber and Arrow so Beck, the

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Speaker 2: Olympic Committee is brought to fight by allowing some Russian

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Speaker 2: and Belo Russian athletes to perform under the flag at

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Speaker 2: the Paragames. Now that's led to Ukraine pulling the pin.

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Speaker 5: There will be debates, I think around going ongoing debates

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Speaker 5: about the integrity of these kind of things and also

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Speaker 5: the questions of if this is going to happen now

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Speaker 5: for the Paralympic games in Milankotina in March. Is that

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Speaker 2: Is that setting a president? Now the bed question? Then stightside,

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Speaker 2: the family of Jesse Jackson are paying tribute.

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Speaker 1: My father, our dad.

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Speaker 6: We part in the readership.

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Speaker 1: We call him reverend.

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Speaker 7: He has set such an example for us and.

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Speaker 1: Our city and our family. He has been a lion

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Speaker 1: among lions, stubborn to the very very end.

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Speaker 2: That's one of his sons. He had six kids. This

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Speaker 7: Dad would have wanted us to have a great meeting

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Speaker 7: to discuss our differences, to find ways of moving forward

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Speaker 7: and moving together, and if his life becomes a turning

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Speaker 7: point in our national political discourse.

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Speaker 2: A man, does he sound like Baraco Bomber about thirty

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Speaker 2: years ago?

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Speaker 8: Or what?

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Speaker 2: And to the weather? America is so cold right now?

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Speaker 1: Now we want to show you Lake Superior.

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Speaker 7: We've got a store morning on Lake Superior right now,

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Speaker 7: five to eight footers.

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Speaker 6: Look at this.

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Speaker 7: Have you ever seen Lake Superior like this in person?

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Speaker 6: I have not.

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Speaker 1: Look at the snow I'm stepping in here.

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Speaker 6: Look at this.

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Speaker 2: Oh he didn't fall in He's still alive. Finally insight

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Speaker 2: into the GLP Revolution of one hundred and thirteen thousand

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Speaker 2: users renalized by a health foundation think tank called Boy.

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Speaker 2: Interesting thing is men and the elderly are statistically the

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Speaker 2: the jabs are being used by women, especially between the

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Speaker 2: ages of thirty and forty nine, So that's cosmetic as

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Speaker 2: opposed to medical. Sharp drop off in use after the

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Speaker 2: age of sixty. But do they work, Yes, they do,

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Speaker 2: and the UK alone GP visits have been freed up

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Speaker 2: by eighteen percent since the NHS began rolling out these jabs,

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Speaker 2: So that is news the world and a lighter world

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Speaker 2: at that. In ninety Yeah, before mentioned inflation rates, Sikiso

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Speaker 2: accurately pointed out three percent. That's a sharp fall. They

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Speaker 2: expected to fall in line to two percent by April. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: Oil yesterday was down because we decided that Iran wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to get bombed. But then JD comes out this

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Speaker 2: morning and go I didn't like the way those talks went,

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Speaker 2: So Oil's back up more shortly twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Eppy the war Russia, Ukraine, US in Geneva. Today's talks

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Speaker 2: only lasted two hours. The word is difficult. Nothing happened

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Speaker 2: fifteen Curing Partners Andrew Kella had good morning, very very

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Speaker 2: good morning, Mike. Cash rate wasn't really the story. The

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Speaker 2: commentary was would you make of it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's the latest missive from the RBNZA and

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Speaker 9: the first fall delivery from the new governor. Yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 9: no surprises. The RBNZ had left the OCR change at

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Speaker 9: two and a quarter. We talked about this yesterday morning.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't about that. We were interested in the detail

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Speaker 9: in this case. That's what is in the Monetary Policy Statement.

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Speaker 9: The first thing I'd note that this was a unanimous

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Speaker 9: decision Mike, by the Monetary Policy Committee, so no dissent

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Speaker 9: would suggests the committee as well. We can only infer

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Speaker 9: What we have now is an expectation that we'll see

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Speaker 9: this official cash rate rise a little earlier. It's not

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Speaker 9: a seismic shift though. And if you look at the

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Speaker 9: OCR track, you know the RBNZAD they've got a model

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Speaker 9: which spits out numbers. It's got the OCR at two

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Speaker 9: point three eight percent by the end of this year,

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Speaker 9: so it's a touch higher than the current rate of

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Speaker 9: two and a quarter, which suggests the OCR is possibly

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Speaker 9: moving harder towards the end of this year, but certainly

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Speaker 9: I would call some encouraging trends in the statement, Mike,

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Speaker 9: I would stress that I think it's very much a

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Speaker 9: got this beautiful combo of inflation, moderating growth, improving growth

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Speaker 9: drivers also broadening, which does feel like you because you've

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Speaker 9: to be absorbed without sparkling inflation problem. It does feel

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Speaker 9: like quite an optimistic view. Inflation is forecast to sort

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Speaker 9: three percent, and then slowly and gradually it moves towards

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Speaker 9: the midpoint of the target range over twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 9: and it's companied by an equally gradual increase in the OCR.

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Speaker 9: Over the course of twenty twenty seven, it tops out

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Speaker 9: at sort of three percent. I think it's twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 9: By then again the risks to inflation scenes being balanced.

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Speaker 9: Now something I'm really worried about, Mike. The growth forecasts

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Speaker 9: are are quite optimistic. I think if you see that

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Speaker 9: The downside, though, is issues such as households continue to

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Speaker 9: get a house price recovery which is not forecast, the

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Speaker 9: thing is an overly hawkish statement I think would have

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Speaker 9: potentially exaggerated that risk. Look in general, the tone of

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Speaker 9: the statement was probably a little more dubbish than the

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Speaker 9: interstrates falling in a lower New Zealand dollar over the

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Speaker 9: course of the day. Yes, say, we've got a positive

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Speaker 9: response on the ins andex as well. I think my

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Speaker 9: sort of final word, Mike, I think it's a sensible, pragmatic,

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Speaker 9: but potentially a little overly optimistic start to the Brendan

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking forward to talking to it. I will

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Speaker 2: put that to after seven thirty. Now, the whole that

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Speaker 2: Fletchers have found themselves in, they're still there. Are they digging?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? They're digging.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's been a tumultuous and sponsoruous few years

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Speaker 9: for Fletcher Building. They released their half year results yesterday. Look,

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Speaker 9: they recorded an arter tax loss. But the thing is

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Speaker 9: there's a whole bunch of significant items in there. So

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Speaker 9: this is the continuation of the construction project legacy costs.

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Speaker 9: These are just the gifts that keep on giving. They

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Speaker 9: have now sold the construction business, so it's gone, but

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Speaker 9: it does retain some liabilities and projects like the International

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Speaker 9: Convention Center. If you look through that, you've got underl

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Speaker 9: earnings of one hundred and forty five million. They see

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Speaker 9: no meaningful improvement in their New Zealand market volumes until

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Speaker 9: the calendar year twenty twenty seven, encouraging that the second

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Speaker 9: quarter of the half year was than the first quarter.

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Speaker 9: They're continuing to look for cost out initiatives. They're still

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Speaker 9: working through this turnaround plan. The balance sheet looks pretty solid.

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Speaker 6: Still no dividend there.

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Speaker 2: Just note little things in here.

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Speaker 9: So the distribution business, which hasn't it Things like placemakers

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Speaker 9: that made a loss, which tells you how tough it's

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Speaker 9: been in that sort of in that area over the

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Speaker 9: Share price yesterday is pretty stable. It sort of did

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Speaker 2: Luckerberg's just taking a stand in Los Angeles. I assume

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Speaker 2: away from eight. So, I guess it's the jobs, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: We're waiting for those insolvencies and jobs are the last

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Speaker 2: to you. Good morning, you're feeling it?

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 11: Yes, consistent growth over the last six or seven months

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Speaker 11: Look, all things being equal, and if you think about

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Speaker 2: Construction at twenty percent, Are there actually the people who

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Speaker 11: What pretend to find Mike is the highest skill level,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so once so they soak that up. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Wellington's up, which is good given the Wellington story, but

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Speaker 11: So look, it's a little bit of a recovery. Not

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Speaker 2: As you have that egg sector, you've got it still growing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and where do we get that? Where's that line?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's good to have you on the program, mate,

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Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier there's limited opportunity for growth and agriculture

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Speaker 2: horticulture has unlimited opportunities. Deerries focused on added value very

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Speaker 2: Rights Katherine, how are you? I'm great, Thank you very

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Speaker 2: I find the seamlessly fascinating, but I could well just

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Speaker 2: be a wonk. But this Legarde stuff has been floating

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Speaker 2: for a while and it keeps floating, and I always

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Speaker 2: believe the something in it is she leaving early or not?

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Speaker 2: And if so, why, Okay, Well, what you're talking about there?

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Speaker 12: Christine Legard the President of the European Central Bank, probably

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Speaker 12: one of the most powerful bankers in Europe. Command the

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Speaker 12: position commands enormous financial firepower. She was appointed twenty nineteen

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Speaker 12: for an eight year term. The rumor is, as you say,

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Speaker 12: it's been around for a long time, that she's contemplating leaving.

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Speaker 12: She's seventy years old. She doesn't have to leave until

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Speaker 12: her term actually ends late twenty twenty seven, but the

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Speaker 12: buzz is that she needs to go now, relatively soon,

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Speaker 12: so as French President Emanuel Macwell and German Chancellor Frederick

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Speaker 12: Mez can appoint someone like minded into the position. They're

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Speaker 12: really frightened about what will happen if the far right

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Speaker 12: get into power in some of the more the larger

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Speaker 12: European economies, let's put it that way. So that's why

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Speaker 12: it's come back again. These European Central Bank earlier on

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Speaker 12: today said no, she's going to be there. She's happy

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Speaker 12: she's staying, but certainly there is concern that you, especially

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Speaker 12: with what we saw in the US the Federal Reserve,

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Speaker 12: perhaps it's time to what they call future proof these

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Speaker 12: are institutions.

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Speaker 2: And does that same thinking apply to Macron at home

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Speaker 2: with the Bank of front It.

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Speaker 12: Would seem to depends really on who you speak to

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Speaker 12: about that, Mike. If you speak to sort of people

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Speaker 12: who don't like him, Manual Macron, they say, while all

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Speaker 12: he's doing is he's putting his chums in positions, thanking

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Speaker 12: them for supporting him while he was president, because next

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Speaker 12: year he's up for reelection and he can't stand again.

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Speaker 12: Now that means that what has happened is the governor

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Speaker 12: of the Bank of France has stepped down.

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Speaker 5: A year early.

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Speaker 12: So we're all waiting to hear who gets that job.

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Speaker 12: We've also just heard that the new government auditor or

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Speaker 12: state auditor, really it's a powerful oversight position has been

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Speaker 12: given to one of Macron's early political ally is a woman,

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Speaker 12: a Alida Monchelon. She is very new to politics. She

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Speaker 12: had joined politics in twenty seventeen. She's only forty years old,

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Speaker 12: so she'll be in that job for quite some time,

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Speaker 12: probably till she's forced to retire at age sixty eight.

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Speaker 12: That mat Kron has appointed to the Constitutional Authority, to

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Speaker 12: the Constitutional Council, he's appointed right hand man there. So

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Speaker 12: it depends on who you believe. Is he ring fencing

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Speaker 12: it ahead of a possible far right government or is

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Speaker 12: he giving his chum's job to thank them for their support.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how independent are they in that sense? Because

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Speaker 2: we've just gone through the process here, we've got a

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Speaker 2: brand new Reserve Bank governor. She came in from offshore

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Speaker 2: and from Sweden. We see it, broadly speaking as independent.

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Speaker 2: You don't in America do people look at the guard

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Speaker 2: and whoever they put in the Bank of France and go,

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Speaker 2: you know, no matter who appointed them, they're legit, straight

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Speaker 2: up and down.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's sort of that. One of the things about

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Speaker 12: France and also Germany is they have these schools, I

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Speaker 12: think we can call them schools where they produce bureaucrats.

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Speaker 12: And these bureaucrats are either lawyers or their accountants, and

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Speaker 12: they just know how to serve the state. And you know,

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Speaker 12: it's a really big European concept, the notion that you

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Speaker 12: are part of the state and not belonging to a

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Speaker 12: political party, and it's thought that once you leave government

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Speaker 12: and that you leave behind your party legends. But of

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Speaker 12: course you know someone like Christie mcguard obviously, you know

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Speaker 12: she's on that side of the market. At the same

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Speaker 12: as Manual macran banking background legis said, so you know

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Speaker 12: it's hard, but they do say they're appointed by the state,

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Speaker 12: not by the people.

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Speaker 2: What would you get a couple of quick questions on

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Speaker 2: the Olympics, What would you say. I mean, you're in

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Speaker 2: a different part of the world and you're into the

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Speaker 2: skis and the slipes and the Alps and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Here we struggle a bit. We've got

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Speaker 2: a team of seventeen. There's only a small part of

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Speaker 2: the country that produces these sort of sports. Has it

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Speaker 2: been a big deal? Is it a big deal?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Huge deal? And not just because France is fourth and

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Speaker 12: the medals table best Winter Olympics so far there was

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Speaker 12: seventeen medals. I think what it's becoming very interesting to

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Speaker 12: look at the Winter Olympics is the effect that climate

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Speaker 12: change is having on it. You look at where it's

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Speaker 12: being held at the moment. There's three areas in Italy, Olivierno,

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Speaker 12: Milan and Cortina. They had some quite good snow a

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Speaker 12: couple of weeks ago, but enough so the way that

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Speaker 12: the Winter Olympics are that they're usually held in February.

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Speaker 12: Climate change. It's much warmer now than it used to

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Speaker 12: be in February, so you've got, particularly these particular Olympics,

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Speaker 12: eighty five percent of the snow is artificial.

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Speaker 2: So do they need to change?

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Speaker 12: It's what they're changing, and they're saying that they're going

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Speaker 12: to make this happen is if you're going to have

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Speaker 12: the Winter Olympics. There's only actually now so many places

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Speaker 12: in the world, and they say that there's about thirty

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Speaker 12: nations who have got the climate and the facilities to

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Speaker 12: be able to host this.

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Speaker 2: Big, huge thing.

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Speaker 12: And so what they're looking at is you have these

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Speaker 12: this core group of countries and it will rotate around them.

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Speaker 12: And they're also saying eighty percent of the venues have

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Speaker 12: got to be existing. So keep an eye at Mike

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Speaker 12: because it's in France and twenty thirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing with summer, isn't it. London,

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Speaker 2: La Paris, China, et cetera. Kine, nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: We'll see and we'll see you next week on Tuesday

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Speaker 2: here on the Mic asking break this nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The mic host Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate US Dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be the very brief summation. George Russell fastest for

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Speaker 2: the day with Mercedes McLaren got some good laps and

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Speaker 2: Piastre was second at one one hundredth of a second

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Speaker 2: slower than Russell. So the consumers they had last week

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Speaker 2: that there were big gaps seems to be getting sorted out.

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Speaker 2: Lando came in fourth, had you had trouble water system

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Speaker 2: issue with the car. The big four were in the

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Speaker 2: top seven, so we thought they'd be they kind of ore.

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Speaker 2: Williams is in the midfield. Aston had a few technical issues,

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Speaker 2: so Alonso was limited to twenty eight laps. Lance had

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Speaker 2: a few problems, he was limited to twenty six. So

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Speaker 2: Aston is still trying to get that together. Cadillac reliability problems.

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Speaker 2: Perrier has only got out twenty four laps for the day.

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Speaker 2: Lawson came in as I mentioned, twelfth, so that's day

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Speaker 2: one of three, but we'll keep you posted five to seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business favor, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, more good news. Z espree full season forecasts twenty

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Speaker 2: five to twenty six. Records are just being shattered, left, right,

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Speaker 2: and center. So hectares portray increased from November forecast for green,

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Speaker 2: organic green, and organic sun gold. The per tray returns

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Speaker 2: for sun gold, Sweet green, and ruby red. They're in

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Speaker 2: line with the November forecast. So what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: They've sold a record crop of two hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 2: million trays, which is up twenty seven percent. Sales window

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Speaker 2: is going to be a month longer all the way

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Speaker 2: into March, thank the good Lord, because we don't want

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Speaker 2: to import that Italian crap. That's awful. Green growers now

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Speaker 2: have a forecast return of ten dollars a tray and

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Speaker 2: we're set to break the record again as early estimates

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Speaker 2: have us producing a record two hundred and twenty million trays.

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Speaker 2: So the texture was right the hot text earlier on

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Speaker 2: in the program. So this is this is why the

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Speaker 2: government is going to be so interesting this morning. If

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Speaker 2: we're not getting immigration and housing isn't driving the economy,

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Speaker 2: what is? And the answer is kiwi fruit and cows

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Speaker 2: and sheep and things of beef. And lamb and wool,

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Speaker 2: if it's on the farm, if it's in the field,

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Speaker 2: if somebody is growing something, that's where the money's coming from.

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Speaker 2: And it just keeps on keeping on. But the question

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Speaker 2: you ask, I mean, you saw the dairy auction result

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Speaker 2: yesterday again, four or four so far this year bang

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Speaker 2: bang bang bang up up up and up will crash

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Speaker 2: through ten dollars. That's all great, but you've got to

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Speaker 2: be at some point you've got to ask how high

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Speaker 2: can it go and for how long? And how long

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Speaker 2: is or how dangerous is it for an economy to

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Speaker 2: be so reliant on sheep and beef and kiwi fruit

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Speaker 2: before when the world demand does change, and it will

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Speaker 2: that we have nothing else to rely on. Where's the manufacturing,

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Speaker 2: where's the industrial you know, where's the tech? All of

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Speaker 2: those sort of questions. Bradley Olson's been listening to the governor.

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Speaker 2: He's with us directly after seven. He thinks she's missed something.

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Speaker 1: He's next the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names

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Speaker 1: talk to Mike the Mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be falling seven past seven right. The resis

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Speaker 2: the bank was extra interesting for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 2: One we've built a new governor, she's with us shortly,

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Speaker 2: and two it's their first outing of the year. Of course,

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Speaker 2: cash right too too far, that wasn't the news. The

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Speaker 2: word dubvish was used by some Brad Olsen as the

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Speaker 2: chief executive, of course, principal economists and informetrics and with

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Speaker 2: us Brad morning, good morning. This lars a fair attitude.

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Speaker 2: She seems to have. Inflation Is that going to pop

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Speaker 2: right back into the box the way she seems to

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Speaker 2: indicate it will?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the.

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Speaker 13: Reserve banks expectations. They've said pretty clearly that they are

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Speaker 13: confident that inflation will be back within the box within

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Speaker 13: the current quarter and then back to two percent within

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Speaker 13: the next twelve months. Again, I'm hopeful of that, but

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Speaker 13: the bank did seem to be a little bit less

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Speaker 13: phase than we probably were expecting, with having inflation out

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Speaker 13: the top of the band and just some of the

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Speaker 13: pressures that are sitting there. In fact, the bank said

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Speaker 13: quite specifically that they thought that risks to the inflation

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Speaker 13: outlook were balanced. There's both potential for a bit more

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Speaker 13: pressure if the economy started to keep going a bit quicker.

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Speaker 13: But equally there's the ability for inflation to fall away

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Speaker 13: quite a bit quicker if the economy recovery started to stall.

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Speaker 13: Now I'm sort of more of the view that there's

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Speaker 13: probably upside risk. It's more likely to be worse than

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Speaker 13: it is to get better. But the Bank's got a

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Speaker 13: slightly different view. Importantly, they haven't changed anything particularly. They haven't,

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Speaker 13: you know, completely whip swored. They have just provided a

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Speaker 13: little bit more of a guidance around where interest rates

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Speaker 13: might go over the next year.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's the Bremen thing? In other words,

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Speaker 2: she in her heart of hearts, goes, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to scare any horses on my first time out. Let's

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Speaker 2: just walk a tight rope, say a bit of this

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Speaker 2: and a bit of that, and we'll see how we go.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything in that?

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Speaker 13: I think the governor is just generally playing with a

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Speaker 13: pre straight bat. She's also got a wider committee. It's

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Speaker 13: not just the one person who makes the decision on

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Speaker 13: how things are communicated. But even in her press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 13: I think she tried to highlight all the different challenges

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Speaker 13: that are out there that the Reserve Bank's got to

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Speaker 13: grapple with. I mean, it is a real toss up,

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Speaker 13: if you will, Given that the economy still doesn't feel

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Speaker 13: like it's fully got that recovery momentum, the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 13: doesn't want to cut that off at the knees too

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Speaker 13: quickly by spooking anyone. But equally they have got to

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Speaker 13: always be sort of focused on inflation. So it's a

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Speaker 13: tricky balance, and I think the Governor actually played it

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Speaker 13: very well. It's a pretty straight bat. Everyone can get

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Speaker 13: something out of it. It was ever so slightly dubvish

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Speaker 13: relative to expectations, but I don't think we should read

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Speaker 13: too much into that. It wasn't the big pivots that

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Speaker 13: we've had in previous years.

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Speaker 2: You're still calling Lake this year for a hike.

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Speaker 13: At the moment, yes, December seems to be that the

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Speaker 13: likely month. Markets are picking a bit earlier, sort of

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Speaker 13: September October, and I could see that happening. I don't

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Speaker 13: think it's any earlier than that, But I also don't

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Speaker 13: know if the Reserve Bank will be able to wait

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Speaker 13: it out till twenty twenty seven. At some point, those

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Speaker 13: inflationary pressures and realities will come through, especially if the

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Speaker 13: economic recovery does get going, which would be a good thing,

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Speaker 13: but they will need to normalize interest rates and get

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Speaker 13: it back to that Goldilock zone where they're not adding

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Speaker 13: anything specific to the economy, but they're not taking away

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Speaker 13: anything either. That's a happy balance and we're getting closer,

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Speaker 13: but we're clearly not there yet.

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Speaker 2: Bradley, it is little shelter of shearer joy as always,

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Speaker 2: brad Olsen out of infometrics this morning, ten and it's

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Speaker 2: past seven. Must get another report into the way we

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Speaker 2: treat some of our kids. Since twenty twenty one, twenty

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Speaker 2: four kids have been killed, most under five, and they

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Speaker 2: are all known to the state agencies. Of course, we

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Speaker 2: find the system has gaps, no kidding. Major recommendations from

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Speaker 2: earlier reviews haven't been implemented, no kidding. Aaron Jones is

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Speaker 2: the Independent Children's Monitor Chief executive and is with us. Aaron,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, good morning to hear mate.

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Speaker 2: Awfully depressing, This isn't it?

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Speaker 11: It is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and has been for years and I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many interviews I've done on the subject, and nothing

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Speaker 2: changes will it ever?

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Speaker 14: And that's the point We've had reports after reports over

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Speaker 14: decades now that are calling from improvements to a child

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Speaker 14: protection system, and those changes aren't happening, or certainly aren't

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Speaker 14: happening fast enough.

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Speaker 2: My long held view is we ask too much of

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Speaker 2: the agencies. In other words, you are dealing with a

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Speaker 2: slice of New Zealand, as small as it may be,

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Speaker 2: that is so depraved and unusual. No agency can realistically

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Speaker 2: be expected to do miracles. Basically, is that unfair?

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Speaker 14: We thing It's a real is challenging work, and you're right,

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Speaker 14: we've got a real issue in news in terms of

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Speaker 14: domestic violence, family violence, and then harmed children, and there

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Speaker 14: are some deep seated issues that go well beyond what

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Speaker 14: these agencies can do to respond. But at the end

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Speaker 14: of the day, there's certainly things that can be improved

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Speaker 14: for those agencies. That's what Dame Karen was calling out

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Speaker 14: in their recommendations, and it's happening to see that the

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Speaker 14: last year government finally accepted all of those recommendations she

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Speaker 14: made and now they're going to put some things in place,

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Speaker 14: and our jobs to see whether those things are making

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Speaker 14: a difference.

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Speaker 2: The lack of implementation up to this point is that

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Speaker 2: deliberate or in competence or both.

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Speaker 11: Oh.

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Speaker 14: I think it's about prioritization, and you know, it's making

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Speaker 14: sure that this is front and mind of not just

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Speaker 14: ordering a tamariki, but all government agencies that have a

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Speaker 14: role to play. And it is really disappointing that we've

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Speaker 14: not seen the progress. You know, only two of the

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Speaker 14: recommendations that Dame Karen made had been implemented by the

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Speaker 14: time we finished this report.

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Speaker 2: The old argument that you don't pull league kids out

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Speaker 2: of the families enough and get them out and away,

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Speaker 2: and that's highly political, moral, social, racial, the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Is there something in that or not.

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Speaker 14: Look, a child protection agency has to remove kids when

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Speaker 14: they are in harm's way and when that's the right

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Speaker 14: thing to do. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 14: kids generally they want to be with their parents. They

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Speaker 14: just want the harm to stop, and there's an important

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Speaker 14: role to play about how we prevent an intervene early.

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Speaker 14: You know, this is the investment approach, Mike, that you're

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Speaker 14: here to actually help and prevent things escalating and then

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Speaker 14: ultimately harm happening to kids. And that's what we're talking

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Speaker 14: about in this report is how can we invest in

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Speaker 14: community agencies who can do that intervention and prevention work

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Speaker 14: so that they don't come to the attention of adding

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Speaker 14: a tamariki in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Aaron, appreciate your time. Aaron Jones, have we heard that before?

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Speaker 2: Or have we heard that before? Thirteen minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: ask at great watching Parliament television yesterday, actually seeing the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister firing back at Hipkins and pointing out what

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Speaker 2: he did the economy in response to his line of

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Speaker 2: questioning around the cost of living. Sam couldn't agree with

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Speaker 2: you more. I don't get Luxeon. I watch Question Time

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Speaker 2: every day. Sometimes I look at luxon yesterday was an example,

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Speaker 2: and that's why you pointed out. I thought, man's on fire,

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Speaker 2: he's got an argument, he's set to go. It's election,

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Speaker 2: you give it to him. And other days he looks

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Speaker 2: like he's had the wind taken out of the sales.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know what he's saying, he's babbling around. So

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Speaker 2: it's sort of two Luxn's and I just don't know

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Speaker 2: what's happening with him. He's not a consistent performer as

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Speaker 2: this problem. I mean, this is advice is free, by

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Speaker 2: the way, but you've got to I've said it a

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Speaker 2: million times. You've got to use if you're the Prime minister,

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Speaker 2: you use question line, question time as your domain. You've

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Speaker 2: got the floor. The country is listening to you. You

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Speaker 2: tell the story. I forget the question the questions irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: Start telling people what's going on. That's the beauty of

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Speaker 2: question time. And and doing that, you're doing two things, one

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Speaker 2: educating the country and two bolstering your troops. And that's

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Speaker 2: the value of question Time.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen past the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: music with us after eight o'clock this morning. Seventeen past.

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Speaker 2: Part of the aforementioned problem a moment ago that we

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Speaker 2: were talking about and kids being bashed and stuff. Is

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Speaker 2: it cause drug abuse? As it turns out, we've got

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Speaker 2: a new data and the Drug Detection Agency. This is

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Speaker 2: for Q four of the last year. What's going on

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Speaker 2: in the workplace? Well, cocaine positives are up one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty eight percent, Thank you very much. Love the

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Speaker 2: cocaine and fetamine type substances love those as well are

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Speaker 2: present in twenty four point five percent of positive test.

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Speaker 2: Lean Dobson Drug Detection Agency bosses back with us, Glenn,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Your business is booming.

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Speaker 8: I'm assuming, Oh, look, our business is around to get

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Speaker 8: this information out there and keep them workplaces safe. And

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Speaker 8: this just reinforces that there's still a lot of drugs

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Speaker 8: out there. The trends are changing, I guess regionally, and

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Speaker 8: we want to go on top there and keep their

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Speaker 8: message out there so employers can make some risk assessments.

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Speaker 2: What sort of businesses are these?

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Speaker 8: Generally workplace drug test centers what we call safety center

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Speaker 8: of industries. You know, things where machinery where dangerous activities

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Speaker 8: are happening and if you're affected by drugs, you could

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Speaker 8: hurt yourself with somebody else. But what we are also

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Speaker 8: seeing is there's a growing trends globally in the workplace

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Speaker 8: drug testing industry where the white collar and professional services

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Speaker 8: are also stand at drug tests as well.

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Speaker 2: So are we outliers in our drug use or as

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Speaker 2: the whole world on this stuff.

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Speaker 8: Globally? The whole world's definitely on the stuff. What changes

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Speaker 8: around the world is the type of drug be using.

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Speaker 8: The huge increase in the percente of coke that we're

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Speaker 8: seeing from this Q four report is really an outlier.

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Speaker 8: We're also seeing that fine enough in Australia as well.

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Speaker 8: So Australasia is seen from the cartail market. I guess

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Speaker 8: as a target we pay a lot of money for

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Speaker 8: our drugs down here. We obviously like our drugs and

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Speaker 8: the cartails like to make money from us.

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Speaker 2: So if you went into wider businesses away from safety

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Speaker 2: and just to any general office, would that same stats

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Speaker 2: or stats be reflected.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Look, this is a snapshot of society. Obviously, this is

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Speaker 8: a snaps of workplaces and a specific type of work

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Speaker 8: based genera in society. But look right across the board,

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Speaker 8: if you look at the Waistwader stats as well that

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Speaker 8: we've seen that come out of the National Drug Intelligence Bureau,

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Speaker 8: they're all pointed of the same thing. We've got a

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Speaker 8: really strong use based from ffnomen across the country and

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Speaker 8: now we stand here really increasing coke as well, which

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Speaker 8: is as a royal concern for us.

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Speaker 2: No kidding, Glenn, nice to talk to you again, Glenn Dobson.

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Speaker 2: What cost of living christis I mean, yeah, come on,

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Speaker 2: you've got the money for the coke and you complain

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Speaker 2: about the price of butter. Get real, Mike shock horror.

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Speaker 2: With house prices remaining flat and not leading a recovery

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Speaker 2: based on lack of supply, how will this affect labour's

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Speaker 2: plans for a CGT? Good question. Two things there. One,

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Speaker 2: there's not a lack of supply. What there is is

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Speaker 2: a lack of demand. Lack of demand based on the

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Speaker 2: fact no one's coming into the country and they built

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of houses in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: But the CGT questions very good. Read the IMF report

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Speaker 2: into Australia and their economy. They recommend the CGT being

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Speaker 2: a real problem. Their line was simple, the more you

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Speaker 2: tax something, the less of it you have. So when

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Speaker 2: you start taxing houses, the less of them you have.

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Speaker 2: And if you have less houses or fewer houses, guess

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Speaker 2: what happens to the price seven.

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Speaker 2: job applications. There was your headline two and a half

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00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: thousand job applications. That's got clickbait written all over it,

868
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: doesn't it? One job two and a half thousand applications,

869
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: One headline added? In fact, company boss shocked OPO is

870
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: your company, and in the story their job they're looking

871
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: for is well, there's actually some good news in the

872
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: story if you actually read it, mainly that the job

873
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: is here not long ago it wasn't. It's a call

874
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: center job, and the call center has been relocated back

875
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: to New Zealand, which is one of those weird job things.

876
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: I thought we went through this years ago when it

877
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: was broadly accepted that call center's offshore did save you money. Yes,

878
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: but language and actual help on the phone generally was

879
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: so bad they gave up. Anyway, They must have advertised

880
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: the job globally through international sites, because, as it turns out,

881
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: only forty four percent of the applicants were actually from

882
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: New Zealand, So two and a half thousand suddenly becomes

883
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: a pretty misleading number, doesn't it. Forty four percent still

884
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: a lot of applicants, of course, But here's the other

885
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: thing you will have learned in this type job market

886
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: of late, a lot of people apply for literally everything,

887
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: whether they want it, can do it or not. They apply,

888
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: they waste people's time, they're not genuine applicants, and they're

889
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: a nightmare for HR. Now, just for the record, this

890
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: is not to say jobs aren't tight. We all know

891
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: they are. But the inference in these stories is that

892
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: times are desperate and they're not. Jobs are available if

893
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: you're determined, which is the next point. Those who have

894
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: dealt with call centers, and that's most of us don't

895
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: get what you would loosely call a world class experience,

896
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: do we. I mean, like a lot of jobs that

897
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: are front facing in this country these days, they are

898
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: filled with how do we put it nicely, gormless people,

899
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: people who have bad attitudes, don't want to help, don't

900
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: know how to help, don't know what you're asking, don't

901
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: have answers, are not empowered to basically do anything. A

902
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: lot of useless people have work. Have you noticed this?

903
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 2: A lot of useless people have jobs. It's a frightening fact.

904
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: Are all the people without work better than the useless

905
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: ones with work? Or are they even worse? Also, tragically,

906
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: that many applications for a low skilled job tells you

907
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: the decay of our economy. Sadly, too many people with

908
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: too little to offer. Answering a phone is not a

909
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: career path. So what do we end up with? Two

910
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: five hundred applications? And shock see like too many stories,

911
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: not the real story, pasking Mike Blood the reference to

912
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: Noki're on the farm. So much more we can do

913
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: to improve quality and scale to achieve a higher volume

914
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: of exports at the top dollars. That's Andrew who is

915
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: the Nokia country manager. Belieguer. Mike saw a T fifty

916
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: Gordon Murray designed hypergar with foreign plates parked outside the

917
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: interconte in Wellington yesterday, not something you see every day. Well,

918
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: what a joy it was? What a thrill for you

919
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: because the T fifty Gordon Murray. By the way, you

920
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: say V twelve six hundred and sixty break horse power,

921
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: you are right, reps to twelve thousand, you are right.

922
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: Cosworth Engine of course, six speed manual. Do you know

923
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: how many of the T fifty Gordon Murray's were made?

924
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: I think it was about one hundred, so one hundred

925
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: were ever made, and one of them was outside the

926
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: Continental and Wellington yesterday and you saw it. That is

927
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: a thrill. It's like warbirds over Wanaka, except for cars.

928
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 16: It's still called Gordon though, isn't it.

929
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you met Gordon Murray though, you know

930
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: he's a genius. Now we've got the Reserve Bank governor.

931
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: Interesting commentary. Some people disagree with it already. How reel's

932
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: the recovery? Does it take off? When are the hikes coming?

933
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: There's debate around all of that and more so. We'll

934
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: talk to the Reserve Bank governor after the news. Which

935
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Speaker 2: is next? Your news talk.

936
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Speaker 1: Sad, credible, compelling. The breakfast show you cont bess It's

937
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,

938
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: News Talks, Head Vay, Country mus Jason.

939
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: Old Dean tonight he's with us after ete o'clock meantime.

940
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: Back to the Reserve Bank of twenty three minutes away

941
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: from mate new governor.

942
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 10: Here she is free and next to me.

943
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: To cham for I like to keep the windows and.

944
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 16: Party can do the rest of the shot.

945
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 11: It's down.

946
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Sorry I've tapped my toe stript not Back to the

947
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, you Governor, Cash right unchanged two to five.

948
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: They see a recovery, it's on, it's building, it's patchy.

949
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: Anna Bremen is with us for a good morning to you.

950
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: Good morning, very broad based question if we can start with,

951
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: not just out of yesterday's announcement, but more generally, what's

952
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: your sense of the New Zealand economy of New Zealand Inc.

953
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: Is an outsider coming in.

954
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 15: I think it's a great economy. I think New Zealanders

955
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 15: are underestimating actually the potential going forward. In the news economy,

956
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 15: we're already seeing some sectors doing really well. Agriculture, manufacturing

957
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 15: is starting going and I do expect this to broaden

958
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 15: in this year. So I'm very positive.

959
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: The level of confidence with which you delivered your comments yesterday.

960
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: How confident are you that you are right?

961
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 15: Well, of course I'm confident, but you know, we have

962
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 15: a very uncertain global environment, so I think the key

963
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 15: thing is to always be very vigilant and look around

964
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 15: what's happening and seeing how that will affect New Zealand

965
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 15: going forward. So I'm confident that you know the potential

966
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 15: is there, but there's always the risk there will be

967
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 15: some global shock that will hit the New Zealand economy. Again,

968
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 15: unfortunately that is the case.

969
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: Let me quote your Tony Alexander, well known economist in

970
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: this part of the world. This tells us that despite

971
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: underestimating inflation by zero point four percent, the committee is

972
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: probably still in the same mindset that has prevailed in

973
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: recent decades. That is tight and too late and too

974
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: much then after that is too late, and feel encouraged

975
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: to ease too much. If he's wrong, what makes you right, well, what.

976
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 15: Makes me right is that we will adjust according to

977
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 15: how we see the economy evolving. So, you know, we

978
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 15: do a really careful assessment of what's happening in the economy.

979
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 15: We see we're in early stages of the recovery, we

980
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 15: expect inflation to fall, and if we see that things

981
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 15: evolve differently, we will act. So, you know, it is

982
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 15: a difficult thing to do forecasting, it always is, but

983
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 15: we will adjust to ensure that we reached the inflation target.

984
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 15: Because inflation has been too high for too long. Households

985
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 15: have been suffering. So we do need to see inflation

986
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 15: coming down now because that's when household we get their

987
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 15: purchasing power back, and that will boost the growth, It

988
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 15: will boost the labor market, so you know, we are

989
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 15: really focused on getting inflation down, are you.

990
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: The reason I asked that question is, of course we've

991
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: been here before and we've lived through it, and what

992
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: he says is technically correct. And when you say you

993
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: were just yes, you do. But he's suggesting you werejust

994
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: too late. Now you're new, but the people on your

995
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: committee are not. They're the ones who made the mistakes.

996
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: How confident in that committee are you?

997
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 15: Well, I'm very confident in the committee, and i'm you know,

998
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 15: I'm we are going to ensure that we get inflation

999
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 15: back to target, and we are looking very carefully at

1000
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 15: the data, so you know, it's always a difficult thing

1001
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 15: at the moment and know where the economy is heading.

1002
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 15: And afterwards it might look like, oh, it was obvious

1003
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 15: you should have done this, But we're living in a

1004
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 15: situation where where there are lots of global shocks that

1005
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 15: are constantly hitting the New Zealand economy and we are

1006
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 15: looking for those and focusing on ensuring that inflation gets

1007
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 15: back to a low and stable level and then stays

1008
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 15: at the low and stable level.

1009
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 14: And we have good people.

1010
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 2: What makes you so confident on inflation because what we've

1011
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: also lived through in the last couple of years. Mainly

1012
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: it's power, it's right, its insurance, which is it's us,

1013
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: it's here, and it's cost plus accounting. And I don't

1014
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: see the end of that, and you somehow do what

1015
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: are you seeing that I don't?

1016
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 15: Well, I do. I mean, we do see now that

1017
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 15: insurance costs, for example, have come down. Food prices is

1018
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 15: a big issue because we saw in some preliminary data

1019
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 15: from January that food prices were going up again. If

1020
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 15: you look at global food prices, they have actually been falling.

1021
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 15: So if you look throughout this year, you know, we

1022
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 15: do expect food price growth to not increase as much

1023
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 15: as it has in previous years. But it is a

1024
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 15: problem because these are necessities. So these are things that

1025
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 15: households have to buy, and when those prices are high,

1026
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 15: it makes it that crowds out other types of consumption,

1027
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 15: so then you know the demand is really weak. So

1028
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 15: and that's actually what we're seeing in the data. If

1029
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 15: you look at other prices, they are not so high,

1030
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 15: but you have these prices like food prices insurance that

1031
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 15: I have have been really high, and that is a

1032
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 15: that is the tricky issue. For us, it is when

1033
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 15: it does crowd out other consumers.

1034
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: Which flies into the psychology of the recovery. And this

1035
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: is what worries me. Uh, we're desperate for recovery. We're

1036
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: desperate for people to space and to feel good about

1037
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: themselves by saying what you said yesterday, and we start

1038
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: to talk about things like interest rate rises before the

1039
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: end of the year, Do you worry that we're so

1040
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: psychologically fragile will freeze now?

1041
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 15: Not because I think that also, you know, after this

1042
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 15: year that's been really hard on many households, I do

1043
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 15: think that there is a need to increase consumption. So

1044
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 15: when houses start seeing that the labor market is actually

1045
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 15: improvement improving, and you know, we actually see employment growth now,

1046
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 15: so unemployment is still held high, but more people are

1047
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 15: entering the labor market, so there is actually employment growth now,

1048
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 15: and people start seeing that getting a little bit easier

1049
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 15: to get a new job, you know, inflation forces a

1050
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 15: little bit more and the purchasing power comes back, then

1051
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 15: I think we will actually see some more positive consumption growth.

1052
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 15: But it is one of the risks that we're saying.

1053
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 15: We are concerned that household spending is still weak and

1054
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 15: that's the reason why we also think is going to

1055
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 15: be hard for firms to high prices, and that's why

1056
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 15: we say, I think that inflation will fall further.

1057
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 14: So it does.

1058
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 15: It does make sense to us.

1059
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: But playing in it's been tough. Of course it has,

1060
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: of course it has. But here's the difficult what's to

1061
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: say about our capacity is an economy? If suddenly we

1062
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: start to grow this year a bit and then you

1063
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: know what about October, November, December, you go and hike

1064
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: the rights, we go hold on? Is that that's as

1065
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: good as it was?

1066
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 6: Was it?

1067
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: That's our capacity? We lack capacity, don't we.

1068
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 15: Well, we actually think there's quite a lot of what

1069
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 15: we call spare capacity in the economy. So we think

1070
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 15: that the economy can grow at a higher pace without

1071
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 15: causing so much inflationary pressures because there is still high unemployment.

1072
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 15: Firms can increase, you know, manufacturing without how they're starting

1073
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 15: to invest actually, which is also really good to see.

1074
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 15: So we do think there is spare capacity, and I

1075
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 15: you know, people, there is a lot of good potential

1076
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 15: in this economy. People should be a bit more optimistic, all.

1077
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: Right, We'll take that advice onboard. Appreciate Anna Breman, Doctor

1078
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: Randa Breman, Who is the Reserve Bank gun? What do

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Speaker 2: you make of a sixteen too?

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At be Mike. The difference is chalk and cheese compared

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Speaker 2: with the previous governor of the Reserve Bank. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Daryl Cavity Council's forecast seven percent Mike rate increases for

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Speaker 2: the next nine years. No spere cash at my house.

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Speaker 2: She just said insurance has come down. It hasn't. People

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Speaker 2: are insuring less due to costs insurance prices having come down.

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Speaker 2: My god, more fancy. She will be looking at the

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Speaker 2: bank looks at a lot of insurance, not just you're

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Speaker 2: and you're right. The numbers came out this week. In

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Speaker 2: Auckland it's down for domestic insurance that's houses, stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That's come down eleven percent. In Wellington it's gone up.

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Speaker 2: Christ Church it's gone up. She'll be looking at bigger

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Speaker 2: insurance pictures, you know, business and reinsurance and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. My concern of the reason I raised it,

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Speaker 2: and Tony Alexander writing in one roof was very wise

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Speaker 2: to raise it, and that is that the consume we

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Speaker 2: always had with Adrian Or was he was out of

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Speaker 2: touch with the real world. So, if you haven't followed

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Speaker 2: this closely enough, Tony Alexander brad Olsen are basically saying

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Speaker 2: the same thing what the Reserve Bank are saying may

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Speaker 2: not if you listen to Tony and Bradon believe them,

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Speaker 2: may not be what's actually happening in the economy. And

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Speaker 2: so what these guys get spreadsheets bits of paper, They

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Speaker 2: sit in a room and they sort of analyze it

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Speaker 2: because they're wonts meantime out here in the real world

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Speaker 2: there's a different story being told. And we've said that

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Speaker 2: a million times with Adrian Or and that's why I

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Speaker 2: cocked it up so badly. My concern. She seems like

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Speaker 2: very likable person, but be that as it may. She's

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Speaker 2: come from the outside in. She doesn't understand the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand economy. Yet she can't because she hasn't lived in it.

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Speaker 2: You've got to live in an economy you can't. You

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Speaker 2: can look at all the spreadsheets till you blue in

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Speaker 2: the face, you can fill your brain with numbers until

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Speaker 2: you fall asleep, but until you've lived it, breathed it

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Speaker 2: and vibe it, you can't really know it. And that

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Speaker 2: was always Adrian's problem. Now my concern. She's outside looking in. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she'll be learning, and she may well be bright and

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Speaker 2: well qualified and all that sort of stuff. But she

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Speaker 2: turns to a left and the silk's there. She turns

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Speaker 2: to a right, mister Conway's there. And they were there

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Speaker 2: last time as well, the ones who cocked it up

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Speaker 2: as well. So is she sitting there going new clowns?

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Speaker 2: Don't know what you're doing? Or does she believe in

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Speaker 2: what they're saying? And so it worries me that there's

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Speaker 2: only one new person in the room, is what I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to tell you. More good news. You want more

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Speaker 2: good news. Car sales for January up. So it's been

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Speaker 2: a weird January in certain areas, but in this it's good.

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Speaker 2: So we had the job numbers earlier on healthy opening

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Speaker 2: for the year eight point nine percent, increasing the number

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Speaker 2: of new car sales for January eleven. Eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: six of them were registered in January higher rental registration.

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Speaker 2: That's directly off the back of the tourism industry. Of course,

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Speaker 2: steady business demand. So we'll take all of that in

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Speaker 2: bank it thank you very much, tender.

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Speaker 1: Way, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement, Communities

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Speaker 1: News togs Head be.

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Speaker 2: Now poll out this morning, which I'll spend no time

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Speaker 2: on because it's as wrong as any other pole. It's

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Speaker 2: a post freshwater pole. Labors on thirty seven, Labors on

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Speaker 2: thirty seven, so we've had of one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 2: five poles. Now all the polls show the government being

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Speaker 2: elected by one which has a hung government. But just

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Speaker 2: let me run you through the labour number depending on

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Speaker 2: what pole, because they've all come out recently. Labor as

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Speaker 2: though on thirty five, thirty four, thirty thirty two or

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Speaker 2: thirty seven, so thirty or thirty seven, See what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's a complete and utter waste of time, which is

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Speaker 2: why Gallop in America have announced they will stop tracking

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Speaker 2: presidential approval ratings after nearly ninety years declining response rate

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Speaker 2: structural pressures inside the polling industry. Those pressures are not temporary,

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Speaker 2: they're systemic. They've been building for years. Anyone who works

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Speaker 2: in political measurement understands this. The old model is straining

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Speaker 2: under modern conditions. In the seventies, telephone surveys routinely produced

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Speaker 2: response rates of about thirty percent. Today, according to Pure Research,

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Speaker 2: it's six six percent. Respond to poles, We're asking a

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Speaker 2: shrinking slice of Americans to represent three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: million people. Worse, that's lices is not random, and here's

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Speaker 2: where we really need to worry. So an article in

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Speaker 2: the Public Opinion Quarterly examined partisan non response bias in

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Speaker 2: modern election polling found that differential response by partisans can

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Speaker 2: introduce measurable distortion even after standard waiting adjustments. Then comes

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Speaker 2: in the University of Michigan, who say, when the probability

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Speaker 2: of responding is correlated with political attitudes themselves, traditional waiting

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Speaker 2: approaches struggle to fully correct the imbalance. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: the poles are bias. This is not a temporary technical hiccup,

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Speaker 2: but a structural fugility. Do you approve or disapprove of

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Speaker 2: the job the president is doing? So we ask the

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Speaker 2: same question as the country on the right or wrong track?

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Speaker 2: Do you like luxon or do you like hipkins the world?

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Speaker 2: That world, they say, no longer exists. Partisan identity now

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Speaker 2: functions as social identity, shaping emotional reactions and group behavior.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that true? Opinion now moves like a market. We

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Speaker 2: live inside a feedback loop. So in other words, we

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Speaker 2: are literally wasting our time now. These things, as I've

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Speaker 2: said a million times on the program, costs a lot

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Speaker 2: of money. And as a business, if you want to

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Speaker 2: spend money polling people and getting some broad idea of

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Speaker 2: what's going on, fine do it. I don't care. But

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Speaker 2: the political thing, and this is where I think I

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Speaker 2: probably end up agreeing with Winston Peters. You've got to

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Speaker 2: accept that polling now is so ropey, it's basically pointless.

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Speaker 2: And therefore if you then interjected into an election campaign,

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Speaker 2: because what happens is there is no question. If I

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Speaker 2: tell you this morning that labor on this post pole

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Speaker 2: is thirty seven percent, if you're a labor's forty, go yeah,

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Speaker 2: who we're going to win the election? You are not

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Speaker 2: because they're not on thirty seven percent. The same way

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Speaker 2: when Mikey Sherman yesterday of the day before whenever it

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Speaker 2: was interviewed the Greens and said you Greens are down

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Speaker 2: for and then you're up for? What's up with you Greens?

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Speaker 2: She clearly doesn't understand polling either. The Greens are not

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Speaker 2: down for and they're not up for. They're probably unmoved

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Speaker 2: because that's just the fragility of the polling. And four

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Speaker 2: percent in the Greens case is well outside the margin

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Speaker 2: of error. And that's before you get to the fact

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Speaker 2: that in an MMP environment in New Zealand, the center

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Speaker 2: left set to right blocks all account. There's an article

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Speaker 2: and stuff they're trying to run their little agenda this

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Speaker 2: morning saying that Nationals losing traction or not able to

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Speaker 2: gain traction, doesn't matter. It's center left set to right.

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Speaker 2: If National loses something to New Zealand First or to

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Speaker 2: act doesn't matter. The overall number stays the same. And

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Speaker 2: that's why if you look if you want to collect

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Speaker 2: all the numbers up together, which is I suppose the

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Speaker 2: only way to look at poles, if you get four

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Speaker 2: or five or six of them and get a rough

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Speaker 2: estimate roughly down the middle, and roughly what it says

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Speaker 2: is that the government gets re elected. But you didn't

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Speaker 2: go down for it, and you didn't go up for

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Speaker 2: why because things don't happen that way. You don't wake

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Speaker 2: up that vast ways of New Zealanders don't wake up

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Speaker 2: one morning go you know I hate the greens now,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't I suddenly love the greens on

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen that way. That's not how humans operate.

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Speaker 2: But because you're dealing with such a small slice of

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Speaker 2: the population now, is gallop right quite rightly has worked

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Speaker 2: out after ninety years, It's basically a futile exercise. Corey Kent,

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Speaker 2: let's meet him and talk comes to music after the news,

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Speaker 2: which is next your news talks? He'd be.

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Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking? Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the defender, Embrace the impossible news talks dead be dam.

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Speaker 17: This time, emnthing it comes with it, Damn this missing

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Speaker 17: you even loved?

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Speaker 2: I re meet alcohol give a seven past eight, the

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Speaker 2: summer of the seemingly never ending concert rolls on tonight

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Speaker 2: with her Jason Oldeen. We spoke with him last year

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Speaker 2: on the program. Of course, by way of a build

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Speaker 2: up on the bill, Tonight is also Corey Kent. A

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Speaker 2: God has break thanks to Willie Nelson. There's the story.

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Speaker 2: Since then, he's released four albums, collected over a billion streams,

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Speaker 2: and Corey Kent is with us. Good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: great to meet with you. They tell me a little tickle.

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Speaker 2: You've got a little tickle and be good to go tonight.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll be good to go. Okay, just you know, justin.

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Speaker 10: It's a long flight.

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Speaker 17: So uh but we got a little time here yesterday

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Speaker 17: and I feel I feel good to go.

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Speaker 2: You're you're in from Texas, we should explain, although originally

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Speaker 2: from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, So what happens is in in the US

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Speaker 17: if you're if you're from Oklahoma and you marry a Texan,

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Speaker 17: you end up in Texas.

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Speaker 10: So that's how that's pretty.

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Speaker 2: Much how Simon. Funnily enough, may I take it? You

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Speaker 2: know the name Paul Simon. He married Edibrook Hill and

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Speaker 2: Paul Simon lived in upstate New York for Montalk for years. Yep,

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Speaker 2: and I noticed just moved to Texas because she's.

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Speaker 10: Down in the hill country.

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Speaker 17: That's what happens from And you know what's crazy is

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Speaker 17: I have a friend named Kevin Fowler who is on

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Speaker 17: the same management. He's a Texas country legend, like Texas

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Speaker 17: has its own sub genre of country music. And Kevin

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Speaker 17: sold Paul Simon his ranch. So Kevin has this crazy.

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Speaker 17: I mean, it's it's wild. So what Kevin did and

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Speaker 17: I had a podcast for a while where I would

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Speaker 17: just basically bring my friend end on and we would

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Speaker 17: just have normal conversations like we would, but somebody put

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Speaker 17: a mic in front of us and filmed it. You know,

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Speaker 17: that was the only difference. And so I was talking

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Speaker 17: to Kevin about obviously, you know, him selling this ranch

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Speaker 17: to Paul Simon, and he was telling me that they they.

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Speaker 10: Found a way.

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Speaker 17: They bought the oldest barn in Texas, like the oldest structure,

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Speaker 17: and they found a way to float it down the

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Speaker 17: river to this new property.

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Speaker 2: Was that the one he records?

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Speaker 17: I believe, so I don't know for fact, but they

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Speaker 17: found a way to float this barn down the river

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Speaker 17: and put it on this property, and that ended up

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Speaker 17: being the property that Paul Simon bought. And uh yeah,

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Speaker 17: just crazy, but yeah, that's what happens. You married a Texan,

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Speaker 17: you you pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Coming up with some random pull Simon story and you

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Speaker 2: know the guy who sold the I mean, come on,

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Speaker 2: I mean was that twenty million? Well speaking of his people,

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Speaker 2: the Willie Nilson story, Yeah, how old were you?

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Speaker 10: I would have been in sixteen doing.

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Speaker 2: Well, just standingly watching Willie Nilson.

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Speaker 17: Well, yeah, there's a long backstory to it. I grew

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Speaker 17: up playing Western swing music in the Tulsa area, which

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Speaker 17: is like the northeast corner of Oklahoma. There's really nothing there,

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Speaker 17: but it has a rich history of Western swing music

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Speaker 17: and a couple of really key venues there that are

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Speaker 17: that are just you know, revered. But I ended up

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Speaker 17: coming up in that. In that world, it sounds like

1289
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 17: I was some sort of child prodigy, and I wasn't.

1290
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 17: I promise you, I was no more talented than the

1291
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 17: next kid. But I got this opportunity to be a

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01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 17: part of a Western swing band that was like ages

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01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 17: eleven to fifteen, and all I wanted to do was,

1294
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 17: you know, get stage time and performed.

1295
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 10: So this was the way I could do that.

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01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 17: I didn't really know anything about that type of music,

1297
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 17: but we had some hall of famers that took us

1298
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 17: under our under their wing and taught us about the

1299
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 17: heritage of this music, and then they put us on

1300
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 17: stage and then at the end, you know, if we

1301
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 17: sold enough tickets, we get some money. And I was like, whoa,

1302
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 17: you can make money playing music?

1303
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 10: This is this is crazy.

1304
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 17: I'm like a twelve year old kid, you know, making

1305
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 17: some money play music.

1306
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 10: And I just got bit with the bug, right. I

1307
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 10: just loved it.

1308
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 17: So fast forward a few years, Willie Nelson's coming through

1309
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 17: town and I just remember going at the time. He's

1310
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 17: in his late seventies, and I'm like, man, you know,

1311
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 17: Willi's a legend. My grandfather, who had a huge influence

1312
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 17: on my musical taste, is the biggest Willie Nelson fan ever.

1313
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 17: I mean, if you want to get my grandfather going,

1314
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 17: you tell him that Elvis is better than Willie. I mean,

1315
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 17: you're gonna hear two hour spiel about why Willie Nelson

1316
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 17: is the best of all time. And so you know,

1317
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 17: I've heard this for years growing up. Obviously I know

1318
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 17: his music. I know he's a living legend, and I

1319
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 17: was like, I need to go see him before I

1320
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 17: can't see him right, Like, who knows when he's gonna

1321
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 17: hang this up? Little did I know he'd be going

1322
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 17: for like twenty more years, still doing it.

1323
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 10: But I scalped a ticket.

1324
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 17: The concert started, there was a guy outside, I got

1325
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 17: a cheap ticket, walked in. I just always had this

1326
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 17: feeling every time I was at a show. I couldn't

1327
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 17: enjoy the show because I wanted to be up there

1328
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 17: I was like, what would I do if I got

1329
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 17: the chance to be up there? And would I be ready?

1330
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 17: And what would I sing? And what would I you know,

1331
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 17: how would I carry myself? And I was just always

1332
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 17: thinking these thoughts, and this night felt different, and so

1333
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 17: it just felt like that might actually happen. So I

1334
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 17: went to the concession stand. I asked this sweet lady

1335
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 17: for a piece of cardboard. She pulled something out of

1336
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 17: the dumpster. I was like, you have a marker or something,

1337
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 17: and I wrote, it's my dream to play a song

1338
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 17: with you. And I went and I just walked down

1339
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 17: to the front in the pit and I held this

1340
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 17: sign up and he leaned over, saw the sign and

1341
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 17: was like, this kid's blocking everybody's view with this sign.

1342
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 17: So so he grabs the bandana off his head and

1343
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 17: he throws it to me. And I catch this bandana

1344
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 17: and I put it in my pocket and then I

1345
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 17: hold the sign back up and he leans over again.

1346
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 17: Probably a couple songs later, it throws me another bandana,

1347
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 17: and so I'm like, I'm giving this one to my grandpa,

1348
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 17: you know, And then I put the sign back up,

1349
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 17: and the third time he leans over and he goes

1350
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 17: all right, kid, what do you want to sing? And

1351
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 17: because I've always had that thought of like what would

1352
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 17: I do? Would I be ready? I knew that nobody

1353
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 17: wanted to see a no name kid singing Willie Nelson song.

1354
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 17: So I was like, Willie Nelson loves western swing music.

1355
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 17: I've seen him play some of the songs that me

1356
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 17: and my band play. So I said Milk Coow Blues,

1357
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 17: which is an old nineteen thirties Bob Will's song, and

1358
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 17: his eyes lit up and he's like, what does this

1359
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 17: kid know about nineteen thirties Western swing? And he's like, well,

1360
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 17: get up here, and I'm not kidding you, dude.

1361
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 10: The it was a blur from that moment on.

1362
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 17: I mean that, you know, the security is ushering me

1363
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 17: back to the stage and the song's already starting, and

1364
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 17: I walk up on the stage and I'm looking and

1365
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 17: there's Willy freaking Nelson, you know, and he goes, what's

1366
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 17: your name?

1367
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 10: Kidding?

1368
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 17: I was like, I'm Corey, and he walks up to

1369
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 17: the mic. He goes, this is Corey, everybody, and then

1370
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 17: he's like, take it away.

1371
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 10: I start singing.

1372
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 17: The coolest moment maybe in my career was I am

1373
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 17: walking up to the mic. I'm looking at Willie Nelson.

1374
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 17: I'm sixteen years old. I don't even have time to

1375
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 17: be nervous. I'm like, you know, ignorance is bliss right,

1376
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 17: Like I didn't realize I shouldn't have probably been in

1377
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 17: that situation, but I didn't really deserve that. I'm looking

1378
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 17: at Willie and he's right by his mic, like he

1379
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 17: doesn't know if I'm good or terrible. And so I

1380
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 17: walk up to the mic, I start singing, and he

1381
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 17: looks at me and he just nods and he backs

1382
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 17: away from his mic, like you got it. Take it

1383
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 17: from here is And it was just like this vote

1384
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 17: of affirmation from you know, one of the great writers,

1385
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 17: and you know a little did I know my story?

1386
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 17: I would go to Nashville and end up back in

1387
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 17: Texas and I didn't find my place, and so a

1388
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 17: lot of there's a lot of parallels the Willie Nelson

1389
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 17: story in my story, and I had no idea at

1390
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 17: the time it would end up like that.

1391
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations that it's early in the year, but that

1392
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: is the best story I've heard for a very very

1393
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: long time. Brief breaking ball from Corey Kent in The

1394
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: Moment fourteen past.

1395
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: The Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iheartradiow By News.

1396
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 6: Talk ZIPP.

1397
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: News Talks a B eighteen past a Corey Kent in

1398
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: the Country along with Jason Neldean. Jason's nice guy. We

1399
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 2: did him last year. He seems like a nice guy.

1400
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: The other guy we did last year Morgan Wollan when

1401
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: he sort of went. But you've toured with Morgan Wollan too.

1402
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1403
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1404
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 17: We played some really great shows with Morgan this summer,

1405
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 17: and the biggest shows we've ever played obviously we were

1406
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 17: playing NFL Football Stadium. It's crazy, It's incredible. Where are

1407
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 17: you at in your career? Do you think what's your assessment?

1408
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 17: I'm a sea level country artist, right, No, I mean

1409
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 17: we just talk about this all the time. It's so

1410
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 17: hard to at us where you actually are when you're

1411
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 17: in it, you know. I remember hearing people like being

1412
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 17: in my friend's mom's car and she had just bought

1413
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 17: this CD of this new country artist, and I'm I'm

1414
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 17: sitting here going like, oh my gosh, that like they

1415
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 17: have a CD, they're on a major label, they're on

1416
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 17: the radio. Those guys were larger than life to me,

1417
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 17: and I remember one in particular, I'll spare you the name,

1418
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 17: but he never had a number one hit, but he

1419
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 17: was this big like if he was coming to town,

1420
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 17: I would have thought, this isn't like I gotta go.

1421
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 17: And he never had a hit, And here we are,

1422
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,440
Speaker 17: multiple hits in and I still feel like we've accomplished

1423
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 17: relatively nothing. But then I have moments where, you know,

1424
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 17: we're in New Zealand with Jason Alden, it's like, oh,

1425
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 17: maybe we're maybe we're doing something. You know, we're on

1426
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 17: the other side of the world because of our music.

1427
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 17: I didn't exactly I didn't, you know, call a local

1428
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 17: New Zealand club and beg them to let us come play,

1429
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 17: like we got asked to come.

1430
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 10: Here, which is really really cool.

1431
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 17: So I think that we have the best record maybe

1432
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 17: of my career coming, and you know, I think everybody

1433
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 17: hopes to have that record, and this next one just

1434
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 17: feels like that record.

1435
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 10: So I think we're still on the.

1436
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 17: The really early side of our career, and I think

1437
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 17: people are still getting to know who's the guy that

1438
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 17: sings wild is her? Yeah, And so it's exciting because

1439
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 17: I think the best is yet to come and most

1440
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 17: people are still getting familiar with.

1441
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: Us wildest hoo is We had Mera Morris on the

1442
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: other day. Yeah, my church, So your wildest hour is

1443
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: my is my church.

1444
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1445
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: But when when that happens, what's that line?

1446
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 17: I mean, it changes things quickly. But it's such a

1447
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 17: trip because you have been doing the same thing and

1448
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 17: playing the same type of music for years and years

1449
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 17: and years, and then all of a sudden you don't

1450
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 17: change anything, and perspective and how people view you changes,

1451
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 17: and so that I would say the craziest part is

1452
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 17: trying to cope with that on the personal side of things, right,

1453
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 17: like going out to dinner and being interrupted and and

1454
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 17: taking pictures and and you know, doing that in front

1455
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 17: of my kids, Like that was a that's that's different, right.

1456
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 17: That didn't used to happen when I was working at

1457
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 17: the Pavement Company and putting out music independently.

1458
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 10: You know, we were just playing little clubs in Texas.

1459
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 17: But it is such a fun rocket ship ride when

1460
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 17: you have that first hit, and uh, you know, my buddies,

1461
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 17: I have a lot of a lot of friends that

1462
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 17: are having that right now, you know, and like the

1463
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 17: the Hudson Westbrooks and guys that are are just now

1464
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 17: really having that big hit nationally and internationally. I'm like,

1465
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 17: you know, hey, enjoy this, like, don't take it too

1466
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 17: seriously because it is. It is a crazy ride, people

1467
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 17: coming at you from all angles, but it is there's

1468
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 17: nothing like it, you know, it's it. The madness is

1469
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 17: what you end up talking about later, right the van days,

1470
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 17: you know, the when we're when you're still in a

1471
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 17: van and you don't have a tour bus. Like we

1472
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 17: celebrated our first number one hit in a red van

1473
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 17: that we call Rooster and it was amazing, Like that's

1474
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 17: my favorite. That's my favorite memory of you know, having

1475
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 17: a hit. It was like back when it was not glamorous.

1476
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, good on you listen, enjoy the country,

1477
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: enjoy tonight and enjoy Australian when of the tour goes on.

1478
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: Next time you're back, you're coming and sing us a

1479
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: song and have a chair. Absolutely nice to see you, man,

1480
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: Corey Kent. It is eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: to use the code breakfast, So read the label. Take

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Speaker 2: Nz or the telephone number for the specialists to help

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Speaker 2: answer any questions you have. Oh eight hundred triple nine

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Speaker 2: three oh nine. Tasky Mike, I'm running fifteen minutes late

1505
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: because I'm sitting in the car and the car park

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: listening to the interview. The guy's pretty cool. Yes, he

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: is a great interview might great stories. Just ask the

1508
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: right questions, let the person speak and tell the story. Yes,

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: it's like even for a jaded old you know what

1510
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: like me, that Paul Simon thing. I mean, come on,

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: pull a random Paul Simon story out of nowhere and

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: if you ever get the chance. And I'm trying to

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: think where I saw it. There was a documentary. It

1514
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: was a long one. It came out last year. It's

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 2: on doc play. He's being interviewed and he's being interviewed

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: in the cabin that we mentioned, and he moved recently

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: to Texas. I never thought he'd leave Montok because he's

1518
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: been in Montoku forever. But he's moved to Texas. And

1519
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: this cabin that he's in where he records all his

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: music and stuff is just the whole place is just

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: a niful So have a look at that if you

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: get some time today. News for you in a couple

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: of moments, and then we'll go to the UK and

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01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 2: our mate.

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Speaker 1: Rod Opinion, Edd Informed, Unapologetic, the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial, and rural.

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Speaker 1: News talks had been.

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Speaker 2: He's good to Murray tomorrow because this isis bride thing.

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: This it's not right. So we told you're talking to

1530
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: Steve yesterday that a bunch of Australian Isis brides left

1531
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: their camp in Syria started heading allegedly back towards Australia

1532
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: before they got turned around return to their camp. Everyone

1533
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: goes to Albaneza going what the hell's going on here?

1534
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 2: He goes, nothing to do with me. I'm not helping them.

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 2: We're not helping them. They made their bed, they can

1536
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 2: lie in it. Quote unquote, that's what he said later

1537
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: in the day as in yesterday. Suddenly the bloke who's

1538
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 2: running the camp goes, quote I saw the passports. So

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: in other words, how do you get passports if they're

1540
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: Australian citizens, how do you get your passports from the

1541
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 2: embassies or the consulate or whatevers in that part of

1542
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: the world without assistance? And they go back to Elbon

1543
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, I don't know anything about it.

1544
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: So somewhere in there is the real story. But there

1545
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: is growing concern and they were already angsty over race

1546
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: issues and bosom issues and Jewish issues and all that

1547
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: sort of stuff that's been going on Australia of late.

1548
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 2: Somewhere in their lives the real story. So we'll see

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01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: if we can't get to that over the next twenty

1550
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: four hours, twenty two minutes away from.

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01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance, peace of

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 6: But now bring Rod little money mate, Good morning, good morning.

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: Chagos is the weirdest story. So when I started playing

1555
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 2: attention to it, I thought a bit of be on

1556
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 2: top of this. So I started reading about Chagos and

1557
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, the military base and then the deal and

1558
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: we had to wait for Trump, and Trump said that's fine,

1559
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: and then nothing happened, and then suddenly said it wasn't fine.

1560
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: Then it was fine. Now where is this thing at.

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 6: It's in real, real trouble for Starma and it's like

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01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 6: everything else Starma does, it turns to dust. It's like

1563
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 6: a Lego model built by a four year old inba Seal.

1564
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 6: Everything he does crumbles in the end. And Chagos is

1565
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 6: crumbling right now. And it's an important story. We owned

1566
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 6: this island and labor because of its ideology, wants to

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 6: give it back, and it's giving it back to the

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 6: wrong people. It's giving it to the Mauritians, who are

1569
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 6: allies of the Chinese, and not to the czech Ossians.

1570
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 6: And we are now at the point, the remarkable point

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 6: where the British government is threatening to arrest Cchaic Ossians

1572
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 6: for traveling to the items to make their protests, which

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 6: is a remarkable occurrence. And we've got the leader of

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01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 6: the Chickossian opposition, a guy called Misley Mandarin, who is

1575
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 6: right now on the Cchagos Islands, are waiting to be

1576
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 6: arrested by the British for the crime of objecting to

1577
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 6: the fact that his islands have been given to the

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 6: Mauritians with above billions of pounds as well. It is

1579
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 6: a remarkable misstep by this government. And Trump is waighing

1580
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 6: in again to say this deal must not go ahead.

1581
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: So what do they do because Trump might say the

1582
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: deal could go ahead again?

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, in fairness, I don't think I mean,

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01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 6: between you and me, Mike, I don't think Trump's a

1585
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 6: man the detail when he first saw this, I don't

1586
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 6: think he quite grasped what we were doing. Later more

1587
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 6: latterly he has and he said we were utterly stupid

1588
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 6: to do it, and he's now saying it shouldn't go

1589
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 6: ahead at all. But just the sheer mood music of

1590
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 6: the British government in its desperate attempts to look hi

1591
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 6: and decolonizing, will be putting in prison for three years

1592
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 6: the very people it's supposed to have liberated. It just

1593
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 6: an incredible missteps.

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: Yet another hitterche he doesn't need What I didn't realize,

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: by the way, and again reading up more about this

1596
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 2: this bi election when you're blast on the program Coupital

1597
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 2: of days ago, we talked about the backdown on the

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01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: local body of bilections. What I didn't realize is the

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: government having to pay Farag's legal bills, which which might

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:03,520
Speaker 2: it even more embarrassing.

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right they are. And incidentally Farag's in the

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01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 6: take are silence at the moment, cheerfully triumphing over the

1603
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:17,799
Speaker 6: government's latest mis steps. But yes, that's right. The council

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01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 6: elections which have now been reinstated after a long campaign

1605
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 6: by the Daily Telegraph, and also it has to be said,

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01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 6: by Reform UK under Nitel Farage they're going to have

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 6: to pay his legal fees. It is a catastrophe, and

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 6: every decision he makes turns into a catastrophe because there

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01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: is no principle behind the decision, no spine to see

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 6: that decision through, and because he is terribly, terribly badly

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01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 6: advised and is also probably useless himself. I mean, it

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 6: just gets worse and worse.

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: Steve Reid, who's the local government secretary, he was trying

1614
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: to spin it and say it had nothing to do

1615
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: with VERAJ and the advice change, and they just moved on.

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01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 2: The suggestion being that some of these councilors who apparently

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: weren't ready even less ready now because they weren't expecting

1618
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: to have an election but now are having an election

1619
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 2: and times running out, is that fear.

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01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 6: It's partly part of It's fair. I mean, it is

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01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 6: undoubtedly true that, you know, have we not had any

1622
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 6: of this rubbish, that the councils would have prepared for

1623
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 6: an election and been able to see them through. But

1624
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 6: now given that we're so late in the day, it

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 6: probably is going to be quite hard for some of them.

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01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 6: The idea that you can blain the council though, when

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01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 6: the government makes a decision do you want to have

1628
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 6: this election or not, and the majority of councils, being labor,

1629
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 6: said oh, actually no, no, you come to mention it

1630
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 6: decided against. I mean, it's ridiculous Steve Reid. Incidentally, it's

1631
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 6: one of the better members of the cabinet, you know.

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 6: That's where we are.

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, dear the weather, how bad it seems to have

1634
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: been a difficult winter. As everything.

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Speaker 6: It's been appalling. I have never known such depressing weather

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01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 6: in the sixty five years of my life. There are

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01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 6: places in this country and mine is close to being

1638
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 6: one of them where we haven't seen the sun since

1639
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 6: January the first. It has rained and rained and rained.

1640
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 6: It has been gray. It's all to do with something

1641
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 6: to do with the jet stream, but it has been

1642
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 6: stackeringly miserable, and I think that plays into the national mood,

1643
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 6: which is Mike, if I might put it like this,

1644
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 6: stackeringly miserable.

1645
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: The interesting you should say that because of reading the

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: other day, Aberdeen had twenty one days of no son

1647
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: and I think that was a record for them. But

1648
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: also travel bookings for what now have you had midterms

1649
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: or half terms or holidays of some sort that just said,

1650
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: travel bookings were up and noticeably, as people couldn't like

1651
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: to get out of the country because everyone's down on

1652
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 2: the dumps.

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, And in fact, I've spent most of

1654
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 6: sub tone trying to book up a trip to Kerala.

1655
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 6: Let's go to India and sit on a beach for

1656
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 6: six weeks, you know that would be it. No, indeed,

1657
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 6: you're right. People are trying to get out because it

1658
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 6: has been It's no fault of the government, obviously, though

1659
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 6: the government doesn't help. But it has been just horrible weather.

1660
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 6: Not whether that kills people, not the kind of avalanches

1661
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 6: we're seen in Italy and France and Switzerland, just sheer

1662
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 6: misery added into the fact. Of course, the January and

1663
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 6: February are the two most miserable months of the year generally.

1664
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, all right, you can go, well, good weekend. We'll

1665
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: catch up next week, Rod Little in Britain. For Us,

1666
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 2: it is sixteen to.

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Speaker 1: Nine the mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on High

1668
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: Heart Radio powered by News Talks.

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01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: It be the California avalanche. By the way, eight did

1670
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: six rescued in, one still missing. If you're following that story,

1671
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: I should have mentioned this earlier but didn't get to it.

1672
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 2: But Peru's something going on Peru. Peru doesn't get enough

1673
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: coverage because it sounds like a fascinating place anywhere. The

1674
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 2: president's been bounsted censured by Congress, and it's one of

1675
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: those frustrating stories where you see a line you go,

1676
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: what the hell. Anyway, So the thing to know about

1677
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: Peru is none of the presidents hang around long. So

1678
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 2: this guy, Jerry, that's his surname, not his Christian name,

1679
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 2: Jose Jerry, one hundred and thirty days. Castillo, you may

1680
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 2: remember from twenty one. He was there for four hundred

1681
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: and ninety seven days. Segusta back in twenty twenty was

1682
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: there for two undred and fifty four days. But no

1683
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: one beats Marino. Manuel Marino, he was there for a

1684
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: full five days, so they turn him over fairly quickly. Anyway.

1685
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 2: The latest guy is out because he held an unofficial

1686
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: meeting with Chinese business people on one occasion while wearing

1687
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: a hood. Now, obviously the question you're asking is why

1688
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: was he wearing a hood? Hasn't it I mean, isn't

1689
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: that the most obvious question? The answer no one tells you.

1690
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 2: In that no one tells you in the story obvious question,

1691
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: why is he wearing a hood? So what was it

1692
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: that tipped him over? Was it the meeting the hood

1693
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: was a combination of the two. Anyway, he's gone. This

1694
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: India FTA is getting right up my nose. I am

1695
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: sick and tired of it. So this morning story is

1696
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: Nita Bushman, who is our outgoing I believe, a commissioner

1697
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: in that particular part of the world, the Indian High Commissioner.

1698
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: She said, this business of the twenty billion that we've

1699
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: got to invest in India is an aspiration. So in

1700
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 2: other words, you know, do it or don't. I mean,

1701
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: what it's based on is that we do business. There's

1702
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: more business, there's more opportunities. We land a plane, we

1703
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: go and see a whole lot of people, shake some

1704
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: hands and do some investment. Fantastic. That's what FTAs are about.

1705
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: Somehow Winston's got it as if it's not the number

1706
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: of people coming to the country through immigration, suddenly there's

1707
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: twenty billion things a thing labors hung up on it

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01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: as well. She doesn't foresee any potential issues for New

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01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: Zealand if the twenty billion wasn't invested in India. So

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01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,080
Speaker 2: that should be the beginning of the middle and the

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01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: end of it. But it's not because Peters, who's got

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: to be in his bonnet and is back in election

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01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: year mode and going down my ranking of people I

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01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: like at a rate of knots. Guys, there's no layer

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01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 2: I am and like, come on, I mean, if you

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01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: watched him in the House yesterday, he's a disgrace. And

1717
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: I won't repeat what he did in the House yesterday,

1718
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 2: but he tried one on with the Greens and he

1719
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 2: used race and it's just at his best, he's exceptional

1720
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: and as a foreign Ministry who's been brilliant and I've

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 2: got a lot of time for him. As an electioneering politician,

1722
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: he's a pillock and he's not putting the country first,

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01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: and the FTA is needlessly being held up by him

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01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 2: and Labor when it doesn't need to be. Turn away

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01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: from nine.

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01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: The Mike Hocking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs.

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01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 2: There'd be moment on any New Zealand road and we've

1728
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: all been there. We know where your vehicle is the

1729
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: right one, whether it actually belongs their surfaces, changing weather

1730
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: comes in roade ars a bit more of you. This

1731
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: is where the Defender is the gold metal standard, feels

1732
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: right at home. Design specifically of course for this The

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01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: capability of the Defender works seamlessly in the background. It

1734
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 2: adapts to the terrain so you can maintain total control.

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01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what the surface is, sealed, loose, steep,

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01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 2: soaked after the sudden downpours we're getting these days. You

1737
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: stay focused on that journey, not the challenge. Keeps you calm,

1738
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: keeps you composed and confident, whether you're navigating rugged alpine

1739
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: passes or remote coastal tracks or that road back to town.

1740
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: That's the true strength of the design. It's a vehicle

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01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: that's just as comfortable in the wild as it is

1742
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: in everyday life. For refined, for where it matters, uncompromising

1743
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: where it counts. Basically, so Defender not chasing the past.

1744
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 2: It's a living symbol of capability, shaped for how New

1745
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: Zealanders actually live and actually travel today. And once you're

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01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: behind the wheel, just makes sense. This is the Defender.

1747
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: You'll love it. Get behind the wheel, embrace the impossible.

1748
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: Visit your local Defender dealer today. Pasky Bay is having

1749
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 2: one more crack at the Monsanto business this time, they've

1750
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 2: offered up about twelve billion. They've already paid about ten billion.

1751
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 2: They say the product's safe, but just in case, they

1752
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: like to offer up multiple billions of dollars just to

1753
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 2: keep you quiet. They bought mo On Santa eight years

1754
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: ago for sixty three billions, so they're not sure of

1755
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: a dollar. This doesn't work unless this closure. That's what

1756
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 2: the head says, and he's right. So the difference this

1757
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 2: time is prior to twenty twenty in the deals. This

1758
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: deal would address both existing and future claims. This is

1759
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 2: non Hodgkin lymphomer, of course, So the deal is anyone

1760
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: exposed to round up before seventeen February this year, diagnosed

1761
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: with non Hodgkin within sixteen years, eligible for the payment.

1762
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: But you sign you're done. It's over. No more lowys,

1763
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: thank you very much. So we'll see where this goes.

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01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: Five away from nine trending now with m'sware House, the

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01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: real House of freedom.

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01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 2: Right when your research out of the UK looks into

1767
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: signs that you're old, thousands of people over forty, what

1768
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 2: the signs were? Now I turned sixty last year, so

1769
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: I say sixty is the new forty, and I'm feeling amazing.

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01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 2: So hit me, Glenn, what do we got? How do

1771
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: we play this game? What's happening here?

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01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 16: Well, I mean there's just a few things that I mean,

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01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 16: the answers are pretty clear, like do you do you

1774
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 16: feel like you prefer a quiet night over a night out?

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01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 2: For example? Quiet night? But I've always felt a quiet night,

1776
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: even when I was sixteen.

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01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, so.

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01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 16: This one's a bit hard moaning about politics. That's pretty much.

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01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: You can make a living at it, and I've done

1780
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: quite well at it, and I love it. I've loved

1781
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: it since I was sixteen.

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01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 16: And quiet night in any recurring aches that the net

1783
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 16: that don't disappear.

1784
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: The knee head, the frozen shoulder, remember the frozen shoulder?

1785
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1786
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that got better, has it?

1787
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 4: Though?

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01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 16: Because I look across at you sometimes you spread these

1789
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 16: papers out over the disk and and often you go

1790
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 16: to lean forward way. Yeah, one seems to be.

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01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: Look at the movement. No, I'm good, Okay.

1792
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 16: Do you do that groaning thing when you've been down?

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01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: You know, I'm pretty good at that. Occasionally when I

1794
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: do and I catch myself doing it, I go, oh,

1795
01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 2: don't groan.

1796
01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 16: So you've been doing it?

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01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 2: So long you turn tonight, I don't grow and when

1798
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 2: you bend over, so yes and no.

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01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 15: I see this.

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01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 16: One can't possibly apply waking up at six am and

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01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 16: enjoying an early night.

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01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 2: Not even remotely close two thirty ding ding ding.

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01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 16: You don't ever talk about taking vitamins, choosing healthier snacks

1804
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 16: and any more proteins do you.

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01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 11: Have?

1806
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think.

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01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 16: Have I ever heard you use the phrase back in

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 16: my day?

1809
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: Do I say that? What does this mean? This is

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01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: all building up to you saying that I'm old, isn't it?

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01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: How many have I got? It's looking that way. You

1812
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: pretty much checked. You see every single box. So what

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01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm old? Is that what you're saying. UK Resort officially

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01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: shows Mic Hosking is old but still good looking, with

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01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 2: a rapiet wit and loving it. Happy days in me.

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01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,679
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