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Speaker 1: New research from Otiger University has painted a grim picture

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Speaker 1: for the future health of Kiwis. It's about diabetes. They

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Speaker 1: reckon that more than half a million of us will

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Speaker 1: be living with diabetes by twenty forty four. That would

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Speaker 1: be a big number, that would be a ninety percent

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Speaker 1: increase on current numbers. So a Tiger University researcher, Andrea

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Speaker 1: Teng has been working on this study. And so you

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Speaker 1: joins me now, Hello, Andrea Andrew. So this is both

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Speaker 1: type one and type two diabetes.

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Speaker 2: That's right, yes, So we looked at the existing trends

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Speaker 2: by agent birth cohort projected them out of the future

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Speaker 2: and if we carry on our current tradictory, that's where

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Speaker 2: we expect end up in twenty five years time, almost

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Speaker 2: a doubling and the number of people with diabetes in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Why are you projecting the numbers to be so high?

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Speaker 2: Well, the numbers will be that high partly population growth

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Speaker 2: now in the population getting older, but a bit chunk

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Speaker 2: of this is the increasing number of increasing prevalence of diabetes,

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Speaker 2: so rhapsid diabetes increasing over time, and that's largely driven

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Speaker 2: by our visgenic environment, by our food environment, and that's

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Speaker 2: the part of the equation that we can do something about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was the question I was going to ask.

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Speaker 1: Is this because of lifestyle or genetics? So the genetics

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Speaker 1: we can't do anything about, but you reckon, we can

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Speaker 1: about the lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's associated with poverty, associated with obesity, we

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Speaker 2: can address that. So that this Public Capitivisory Committee report

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Speaker 2: on the Food Environment talks about some key mess we

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Speaker 2: can take to address that, and one of those disco

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Speaker 2: policies thinking about taxes on sugary drinks sending price signals

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Speaker 2: we're going to support our children's healthy food consumption. That's

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Speaker 2: one of the most evident based measures we have used

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Speaker 2: around the world. Something New Zealand hasn't got yet would

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Speaker 2: be huge and official in terms of preventing that's tied

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Speaker 2: at the top of the cliff.

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Speaker 1: Well, people like you and many other people who have

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Speaker 1: been asking for this sort of stuff to happen for ages,

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Speaker 1: and it never does.

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Speaker 2: Well. I think as the public we need to push

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Speaker 2: for their do we You know, it's hard enough for

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Speaker 2: me as a mother to find healthy fruit for my kids,

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Speaker 2: but we have an environment that's not easy to see

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Speaker 2: our kids well why can't we do something about it

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Speaker 2: as a population. We can restrict marketing and advertising sponsorship

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Speaker 2: of by unhealthy food and drinks that our children see

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Speaker 2: all the time. These are things that we can address

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Speaker 2: with a willing minister, with willing politicians. These leaders work

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Speaker 2: and will be hugely beneficial for our health, preventing the

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Speaker 2: huge cost of I.

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Speaker 1: Was about to say, if we have half a million

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Speaker 1: people who all need medication, who are all ticking over

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Speaker 1: the money as they fight against this disease which in

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Speaker 1: half the cases is actually preventable, how come we cannot

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Speaker 1: convince the regulators and the people in charge that, in

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Speaker 1: fact it would save the money which appears to be

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Speaker 1: the big push at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, This would be the first thing I would do

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to save money, isn't it You look

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Speaker 2: at prevention, what house, what NCDs? What cond of disease

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Speaker 2: can we prevent in New Zealand some of the most

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Speaker 2: evidence based missions. We need to put them in place,

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Speaker 2: and we need to address the food environment, and we

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Speaker 2: need to work with communities and we need Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Andrea, thank you so much for your advice. That is

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Speaker 1: Andrea Ting, who is an Ottaga university researcher, and you

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Speaker 1: know I'm right. We've been talking about this forever and

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Speaker 1: no one ever wants to do it, but maybe they

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Speaker 1: do if you put some dollar signs on it.

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