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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: A new coach with big person.

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Speaker 3: for the Aubecks to win in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: A new captain.

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Speaker 4: That's how I want to leave from the front and

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Speaker 2: On the park to the talking a new team. There

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Speaker 2: is it largely what you expected?

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Speaker 5: What are the big surprises and who.

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Speaker 1: Live from the first ball Blacks camp of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four is Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunner

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Speaker 5: Yoad A good afternoon and welcome into a very special

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Speaker 5: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. We're broadcasting

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Speaker 5: live from the New Zealand Campus of Innovation and Sport

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Speaker 5: and Upper Hut. I've got goosebumps listening to that and Troy.

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Speaker 5: It's been home to the All Black since Wednesday and

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Speaker 5: will be until this Tuesday as they gather for the

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Speaker 5: first time in twenty twenty four ahead of a fourteen

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Speaker 5: test season. Starting a week tonight in Dunedin. After one

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Speaker 5: will be joined by All Blacks head coach Scott Robertson,

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Speaker 5: who's added us to his incredibly busy schedule, is going

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Speaker 5: to be with us for most of the hour between

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Speaker 5: one and two. I have got a bunch of questions

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Speaker 5: I know you will have as well. You can start

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Speaker 5: sending them through if you like. Ninety two ninety two

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Speaker 5: After one o'clock when Scott Robertson joins me in our

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Speaker 5: purpose built studio here at the New Zealand Campus of

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Speaker 5: Innovation and Sport. I'm Jason Pine. Show producer today is

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Speaker 5: Mark Kelly. It is June twenty nine, so raise up

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Speaker 5: with us. Between one and two. We've got some All

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Speaker 5: Blacks players sprinkled throughout the show as well, Vice Captain

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Speaker 5: Jordy Barrett, the returning Boden Barrett, new Cap Billy Procter,

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Speaker 5: and the heir apparent to the number seven Jersey Dalton

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Speaker 5: Papa LIII is on the show too. We'll also find

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Speaker 5: out more about this world old class facility, the New

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Speaker 5: Zealand Campus of Innovation and Sport. When General Manager Jamie

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Speaker 5: Taut joins us just after two, currently set up in

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Speaker 5: his office actually, and it is prime position here at

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Speaker 5: the nzed CIS looking out onto what they call the

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Speaker 5: green Room, and the green room is a full size

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Speaker 5: indoor training pitch that's just been used by the All

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Speaker 5: Blacks this morning, as I understand it, although I wasn't

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Speaker 5: allowed to watch that. I think they want to keep

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Speaker 5: prying eyes away, but it's just part of this world

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Speaker 5: class facility, just globally leading edge as far as training

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Speaker 5: for sports teams are concerned, and I know the All

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Speaker 5: all up. The Hurricanes and the Phoenix have both been

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Speaker 5: year or so and it's certainly helped in their respective seasons.

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Speaker 5: Let's hope the All Blacks get a similar boost in

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Speaker 5: their performance from being here at the nzed CIS other

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Speaker 5: matters around today, I want to start with the Warriors.

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Speaker 5: Pretty important game for them this afternoon against the Broncos

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Speaker 5: as they looked to bounce back from their sixty six

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Speaker 5: around very shortly with Fox NRL commentator Matt Russell also

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Speaker 5: wanted to get your views on the social media abuse

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Speaker 5: suffered by and called out this week by Sean Johnson.

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Speaker 5: The T twenty Cricket World Cup Final tomorrow morning. The

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Speaker 5: grade cricketer have been on their American tour over the

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Speaker 5: last six to eight weeks. They're joining us this out

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Speaker 5: and the Tour de France underway tonight. Tour commentator Anthony

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Speaker 5: mccrosson previews that for us after two o'clock as well.

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Speaker 5: Your feedback and interaction the lifeblood of the show. Please

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Speaker 5: join us if you are well, If you feel like

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Speaker 5: you'd like to, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 5: on the phone, nineteen ninety two via text or emails

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Speaker 5: into me Jason at newstalksb dot co dot nz. Just

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Speaker 5: gone ten past midday send me. Last Saturday, one of

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Speaker 5: the darkest days in Warrior's history, a sixty six six

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Speaker 5: thumping at the hands of the Gold Coast Titans, the

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Speaker 5: that at that time bottom of the NRL Ladder, comfortably

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Speaker 5: and it's put the Warrior's top eight hopes and serious doubt,

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Speaker 5: of that nature. Great pleasure to welcome into weekend sport

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Speaker 5: NRL commentator out of Fox Sports Matt Russell, who was

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Speaker 5: behind the mic last weekend for the Warriors Titans game. Matt,

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Speaker 5: how big a surprise was the margin of defeat for

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Speaker 7: First of all, I think surprise sells it short. Good

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Speaker 7: morning and hello to all your listeners. Yes it was

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Speaker 7: sixty six to six. Now, if you told me pre

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Speaker 7: I would have said in an instant, well not of

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Speaker 7: It was stunning and I'm still stunned by it. The

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Speaker 7: attracted a huge crowd, a huge support base to the

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Speaker 7: Gold Coast. They've been there for an extended period, feeding

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Speaker 7: off the top, I was stunned by it. But equally

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Speaker 7: I expect a response this afternoon. So as stunning as

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Speaker 7: that collapse was, I'm actually tipping the Warriors to bounce

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Speaker 7: back this evening and beat Brisbane. Now that might seem strange.

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Speaker 7: It sounds ludicrous, doesn't it That you can be beaten

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Speaker 7: faithfully in New Zealand, how are you seeing it?

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Speaker 5: I can tell you man, I think there's a. I

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Speaker 5: think what the Warriors have done has built enough credit

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Speaker 5: for Warriors fans and others interested in the game of

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Speaker 5: that they will bounce back. What are the keys that

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Speaker 7: First, second, and third physicality. I want to see them

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Speaker 7: Last week. Their defense was the poorest I can remember

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Speaker 7: They were just letting the Gold Coast Titans run through them,

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Speaker 7: want to see Adam for Newell Blake get back to

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Speaker 7: at Fox League, A three time dally In Prop of

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Speaker 7: the Year says that Adam for Newell Blake at his

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Speaker 7: us today, Adam, I want to see tomorrow, Martin Chanelle,

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Speaker 7: If the Broncos are beaten by the Warriors, then they'll

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Speaker 7: while it's a big game for the Warriors, equally so

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Speaker 5: So are we? So are we. Andrew Webster has resisted

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Speaker 5: the temptation Matt to make wholesale changes. In fact, thirteen

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Speaker 7: I wasn't expecting any more changes than that. And you

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Speaker 7: of Sean Johnson and Andrew Webster I thought handled it really well.

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Speaker 7: He said, we were all so bad that no one

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Speaker 7: and I think as a group on our look to

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Speaker 7: bounce back. Of course, there's been the obligatory crisis meeting

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Speaker 7: and the only thing on the agenda is what happened

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Speaker 7: Turning point in our season? We ei to go two

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Speaker 5: Matt's such a pleasure to chat to you. Thanks for

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Speaker 5: Five o'clock this afternoon they take on the Broncos at

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Speaker 5: Chatting to Scott robertson after one but talking warriors right now,

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Speaker 5: how are you feeling about this afternoon.

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Speaker 10: Gym, Well get a piney. Well if we can remember

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Speaker 10: back to when the Warriors played the Broncos in Napier,

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Speaker 10: it was an understrengthed Broncos side, and yeah they did it.

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Speaker 10: But with the Warriors, I really like clock Seader at

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Speaker 10: number six to Mari Martin number seven and Roger back

436
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Speaker 10: at fallback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know a lot of people share that view.

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Speaker 5: As you know, I'm sure Rogers come back into the centers.

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Speaker 5: Nicol Klukstar is as Klukstar others as you fall back

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Speaker 5: and Chanella Harris Tavita in six. Yet you'd be you'd

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Speaker 5: be tempted to shuffle things is even further Jim.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well that game that Nicole played at six, he

443
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Speaker 10: was outstanding. He just kept moving and he just moved

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Speaker 10: so well tomorrow Martin, they were real danger and of

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Speaker 10: course Roger running it back from the wing. I'm sorry

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Speaker 10: fall back, yes, yes, yeah, but yeah it'll be a

447
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Speaker 10: great game. But of course you're in API. Last year

448
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Speaker 10: the Broncos were under strength and they beat us.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm hoping, I'm hoping for a bounce back. Jim,

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Speaker 5: what you got telling you?

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Speaker 10: I think they will. I think they will. They've got

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Speaker 10: Barnett back, capable back. They were just missing it through

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Speaker 10: last week with just bad tackles, you know, So I

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Speaker 10: got a hopeful feeling that they'll win. But yeah, it'll

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Speaker 10: be a really good game.

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Speaker 5: Good man, Jim, great to Jet you as always. Let's

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Speaker 5: hope that they do showing the ability to bounce back.

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Speaker 5: How do you assess that?

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Speaker 4: Paul?

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Speaker 5: You reckon? Are you on your way to the game.

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Speaker 11: Finally?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and we're on our way mate, yep, we're to

463
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Speaker 12: try and catch the New South.

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Speaker 5: What are you thinking, mate? What are you thinking about

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Speaker 5: the main game? If you like this afternoon? Do you

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Speaker 5: do you have a good sense of the bounce back

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Speaker 5: ability of this team?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I don't think I've remember been this nervous, and I

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Speaker 12: haven't been this nervous for quite a lot, quite some time.

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Speaker 12: But if you think, you know, we we're It's not

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Speaker 12: a muscling game for us. But if you if you

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Speaker 12: look at the Broncos, there could be four losses on

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Speaker 12: the Trona. And I am surprised that Kevin Walters has

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Speaker 12: reached of those origin players because I know other Origin

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Speaker 12: players are backed up, like Stephen Crichton last night, so

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Speaker 12: I would have thought, you know, you don't want four

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Speaker 12: in a row, so you keep those guys in and

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Speaker 12: maybe get a win and a bit of confidence. But

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Speaker 12: I am surprised. But yeah, I'm confident the boys will

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Speaker 12: do it today. All I want to see is a

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Speaker 12: really good effort, and particularly from Eden Vanua Blake, who

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Speaker 12: I thinks he clocks them and clocks out. Maybe he's

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Speaker 12: got one foot on the plane.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that's not true, Paul. I think it's

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Speaker 5: it's easy for us to assume that when he doesn't

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Speaker 5: play well, and last week, I mean, no one played well,

489
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Speaker 5: did they. But yeah, I think that it's just it's

490
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Speaker 5: just created a really tricky situation. Knowing that he's going

491
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Speaker 5: at the end of the season has I think, yeah,

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Speaker 5: allowed us to see things that perhaps are there or

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Speaker 5: perhaps are not there. But it's it's unhelpful at.

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Speaker 12: The very least, that's right, you know, it just creates speculation.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, I'm really looking forward to the game made

496
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Speaker 12: and being there amongst the fans. I just think they

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Speaker 12: really need to come out of the blocks like they

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Speaker 12: did against the Cowboys a few weeks ago. And just

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Speaker 12: you know this competition. You look at the Tigers, they

500
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Speaker 12: do start up with the Raiders, you know, the Wooden

501
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Speaker 12: Spring Tigers, and you've got the Bulldogs last night. So

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Speaker 12: if you're not on your game a hundred percent each time,

503
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Speaker 12: then you know you won't win. But I can't just

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Speaker 12: say quickly on Sean Johnson on the social media. I

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Speaker 12: would have thought he would have learned. I thought he

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Speaker 12: would have learned from from a few years ago, you know,

507
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Speaker 12: on social media, and he always cops it for some reason,

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Speaker 12: and I would have thought that he would have learned

509
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Speaker 12: the less. And so you know, Sean, just get off

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Speaker 12: social media because you know there are trolls out there

511
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Speaker 12: obviously they want to want to have a go at you.

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Speaker 12: And yeah, take the hunt, mate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't actually think that he's on it a

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Speaker 5: heck of a lot, Paul, I think, well, and he said, look,

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Speaker 5: I see your comments. I think what actually happens. Having

516
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Speaker 5: chatted him about this couple of years ago, actually I

517
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Speaker 5: put it on me. So look, whenever the Warriors lose

518
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Speaker 5: at Sean Johnson's fault in the eyes of me there

519
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Speaker 5: and he said, look, he stays away from it and

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Speaker 5: takes counsel from those closest to him. But I think

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Speaker 5: it's those closest to him who were saying, probably in

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Speaker 5: an offhand way, you're getting slammed on social.

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Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, well yeah, no, he does compet mate, and

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Speaker 12: he's a fantastic guy and you know he he's a

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Speaker 12: club legend for the Warriors, so uh and I do

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Speaker 12: want to see him because you know, he was the

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Speaker 12: pail last year. You don't go from here to zero

528
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Speaker 12: just like that. And it's mainly because of the injuries.

529
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Speaker 12: But yeah, I just hope he he he has a

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Speaker 12: good season, mate, and doesn't go out. You know, this

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Speaker 12: is his last season. I hope it's not a not

532
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Speaker 12: a doozy for him, mate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, Paul, drive safe, mate, give us the

534
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Speaker 5: old tomorrow if you get the chance when we're reviewing.

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Speaker 5: Enjoyed the enjoyed the double head of this afternoon. I

536
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Speaker 5: know you're a big fan of the of the team

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Speaker 5: and all the all the teams in the club. Good

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Speaker 5: to have a chance to chat to you, Chris. How

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Speaker 5: are you feeling good?

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Speaker 11: Mate? What about that game versus the Cold Coast There

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Speaker 11: was a Karen Foru and masterclass.

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Speaker 5: He was very good he was very good.

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Speaker 11: They was number six. That's what people have really got

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Speaker 11: to focus on. Don't worry about Johnson, he's out. Worry

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Speaker 11: about Kieren for and he's the champion. He's the one

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Speaker 11: that led up to fifty Nils and thirty mil versus

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Speaker 11: Australia and then a Civic Cup. So that was Karen

548
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Speaker 11: Farr and he's my number six for the kiwis fair

549
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Speaker 11: enough anyway about this game? You know what, my favorite

550
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Speaker 11: Warriors team of the years is the team that beat

551
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Speaker 11: the Panthers. That team of unknowns. Nobody knows who they were,

552
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Speaker 11: where they come from, all their moves, and they just

553
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Speaker 11: beat the Panthers. So yeah, that's my favorite Warriors team

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Speaker 11: of the year. I think the reason that they put

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Speaker 11: these big namers in who aren't on form is because

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Speaker 11: they put bums on seats. Ultimately that they draw the crowd.

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Speaker 5: But I'm not so sure about that, Chris. I think

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Speaker 5: the crowd would turn up anyway. And I think the

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Speaker 5: Warriors fans are a bit like you. They enjoy watching

560
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Speaker 5: players who have been given an opportunity, like to a

561
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Speaker 5: picky like Latawa. That day, Nikol klukstar in the sixth

562
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Speaker 5: Jumper and others as well given an opportunity. Roach That

563
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Speaker 5: was the only game he played or has played all year.

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Speaker 5: And I think I think the Warriors fans actually quite

565
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Speaker 5: enjoy watching the unfamiliar names play. I think they'd still come.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, because nickel Clock said he played number six when

567
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Speaker 11: he played for City, and you didn't way back in

568
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Speaker 11: the days. That's his original position. Somehow he's ended up

569
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Speaker 11: floating around in the back line for whatever reason that is.

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Speaker 11: But his initial position as a kid was number six.

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Speaker 11: So I'll leave you on that money. I can't wait

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Speaker 11: for a game go the Warriors.

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Speaker 5: Good man, Chris, good on you mate. I think that

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Speaker 5: I think your last sentence sums it up. I think

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Speaker 5: we're all we're all still on the bandwagon. I mean

576
00:28:33,787 --> 00:28:36,507
Speaker 5: a couple may have jumped off, but I think we

577
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Speaker 5: all want the Warriors to win. I reckon they will.

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Speaker 5: We'll review it tomorrow, no doubt. Whatever happens, whatever happens

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Speaker 5: at five o'clock this afternoon or between five and seven

580
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Speaker 5: at Mount Smart, we'll review it tomorrow. Don't you worry

581
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Speaker 5: about that. Twenty two away from one when we come

582
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Speaker 5: back the grade cricketer, what are social media and online

583
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Speaker 5: phenmen It has become going to chat to the boys

584
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Speaker 5: behind it about well about their success and the T

585
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Speaker 5: twenty Cricket World Cup Final.

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Speaker 1: Behind the scenes Intel Live from the first Ball Blacks

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Speaker 5: We just had a massive downpour here in Wellington. I

593
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Speaker 5: know you'll find that hard to believe, but it's just

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Speaker 5: absolutely bucketed down for about five minutes. I thought it

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Speaker 5: was actually the air con in this office turning on,

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Speaker 5: but no, apparently it was the rain on the roof. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: we'll talk Talk All Blacks with head coach Scott Raiser

598
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Speaker 5: Robertson after one o'clock. But the Grade cricketer and online phenomenon,

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Speaker 5: It's satirical take on cricket across the globe has earned

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Speaker 5: them an audience of nearly a million on social media.

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Speaker 5: They have an international number one podcast, They do live

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Speaker 5: tours and have produced two best selling books. They talk

603
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Speaker 5: about cricket as it really is and should be talked about.

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Speaker 5: I reckon in a hugely relatable fashion. The brains, the faces,

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Speaker 5: the voices behind it. Two former Sydney grade cricketers Sam

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Speaker 5: Perry and Ian Higgins, who have been at the T

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Speaker 5: twenty Cricket World Cup in the Caribbean and the United States,

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Speaker 5: mainly on the Grade American road trip. They're back. They

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Speaker 5: join us. Now, how was the road trip? Boys?

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Speaker 13: Thanks Jason and just kind of stuff by saying that's

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Speaker 13: a wonderful intro was the best intro I've ever had

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Speaker 13: to Solomon Earnest for anything a white man can take,

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Speaker 13: you immediately want to make a joke about it. But

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Speaker 13: that was very kind of You know, we've been in

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Speaker 13: the US, as you said, doing the Great American road Trip,

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Speaker 13: and it's got to be a shout out to US

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Speaker 13: sponsors wise who got that happening for US International Money

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Speaker 13: Transfer app. But yeah, we were We started in Texas,

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Speaker 13: we saw the first game of USA Canada. We were

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Speaker 13: very skeptical about what we were going to see, like

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Speaker 13: Texas is just a place of highways and billboards advertising

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Speaker 13: personal injury lawyers and Jesus. And we went to the rodeo.

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Speaker 13: But it was actually very very cool. Like we were skeptical.

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Speaker 13: We saw police in police tanks and sniper rifles and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It was all.

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Speaker 14: Weird and wrong.

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Speaker 13: But when you saw that South Asia diaspora population have

628
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Speaker 13: such pride at cricket, their connection to home being played

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Speaker 13: on US soil, which is their new home, it was

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Speaker 13: actually very heartwarming and we were really pleased to be

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Speaker 13: able to go there. We went to New York and

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Speaker 13: saw India versus Pakistan as well. Same thing again, so

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Speaker 13: like it is crazy how much South Asian, the South

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Speaker 13: Asian population take cricket wherever they go, and we were

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Speaker 13: there to record it all and have fun with it,

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Speaker 13: and thankfully for our business, India beat Pakistan, so YouTube

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Speaker 13: subscribers went up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the United States is huge as we know,

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Speaker 5: and they've got their traditional sports, you know, football, baseball, basketball,

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Speaker 5: ice hockey. Did the cricket you talked about. The South

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Speaker 5: Asian population of course love it wherever it's played on

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Speaker 5: the globe, But did you every day yank get into it.

643
00:31:54,347 --> 00:31:56,867
Speaker 2: I would say a couple of rare units got around it.

644
00:31:59,267 --> 00:32:02,187
Speaker 15: A couple of guys looking for a sort of identity change,

645
00:32:02,867 --> 00:32:06,307
Speaker 15: a new identity. If the padres hadn't worked out for them,

646
00:32:06,387 --> 00:32:08,427
Speaker 15: then maybe maybe the cricket team might have done.

647
00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:08,707
Speaker 16: Yeah.

648
00:32:08,747 --> 00:32:12,707
Speaker 15: No, look, I think I think fundamentally that this first

649
00:32:12,747 --> 00:32:15,547
Speaker 15: World Cup there they weren't really trying to get that

650
00:32:15,747 --> 00:32:19,667
Speaker 15: sort of everyday NBC, ESPN Sports Center crowd.

651
00:32:19,867 --> 00:32:20,947
Speaker 2: It's not really that target.

652
00:32:20,947 --> 00:32:23,347
Speaker 15: I think that's that's that's definitely a longer term play

653
00:32:23,427 --> 00:32:25,627
Speaker 15: for them, no quick question. But at the moment you

654
00:32:25,667 --> 00:32:28,667
Speaker 15: actually don't need to because the audiences there's there's already.

655
00:32:28,467 --> 00:32:29,907
Speaker 2: Enough people there who love it.

656
00:32:29,987 --> 00:32:32,827
Speaker 15: So no, I don't think it's about to take over

657
00:32:33,027 --> 00:32:36,147
Speaker 15: you know, Yankees, Red Sox. But but it was still

658
00:32:36,187 --> 00:32:38,507
Speaker 15: it was still well received, no question about that.

659
00:32:38,587 --> 00:32:40,587
Speaker 5: What have you made of the I know you know

660
00:32:40,627 --> 00:32:43,067
Speaker 5: that the actual standard of the cricket is just one

661
00:32:43,147 --> 00:32:44,947
Speaker 5: part of them what you guys were all about. But

662
00:32:44,987 --> 00:32:46,467
Speaker 5: what did you make of the of the cricket or

663
00:32:46,587 --> 00:32:48,067
Speaker 5: have you made of it up to up to the

664
00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:50,667
Speaker 5: point we've now reached reached the final? Has it been

665
00:32:50,707 --> 00:32:51,747
Speaker 5: good cricket for you guys?

666
00:32:53,627 --> 00:32:56,307
Speaker 17: That's a deep question and layered question really, But like

667
00:32:56,547 --> 00:32:59,307
Speaker 17: then to speak of the US the and I don't

668
00:32:59,307 --> 00:33:02,747
Speaker 17: think it's controversial to save the pitch in New York

669
00:33:03,267 --> 00:33:04,907
Speaker 17: brought a lot of teams closer together.

670
00:33:05,107 --> 00:33:05,427
Speaker 18: It was.

671
00:33:05,507 --> 00:33:09,587
Speaker 13: It made for us some kind of dour, unpredictable cricket

672
00:33:09,667 --> 00:33:12,827
Speaker 13: as well at the same time, which you know, probably

673
00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:13,907
Speaker 13: wasn't really the point of.

674
00:33:14,347 --> 00:33:15,387
Speaker 14: The whole thing being there.

675
00:33:15,387 --> 00:33:18,827
Speaker 13: But up until now, yeah, it's I think the tournament

676
00:33:18,867 --> 00:33:21,267
Speaker 13: has demonstrated that those teams who I'm sorry to get

677
00:33:21,387 --> 00:33:22,827
Speaker 13: x's and o's on it, but those teams who have

678
00:33:22,907 --> 00:33:28,587
Speaker 13: good skills around you know, like low, slow spinning wickets

679
00:33:28,347 --> 00:33:32,267
Speaker 13: have prospered. You know, Afghanistan's had an inspired World Cup.

680
00:33:32,987 --> 00:33:37,667
Speaker 13: They knocked Australia out and deservedly, so India looks pretty

681
00:33:37,707 --> 00:33:40,307
Speaker 13: much unbeatable. South Africa have a great middle order and

682
00:33:40,707 --> 00:33:43,547
Speaker 13: two really good spinners themselves. So I do think that

683
00:33:43,627 --> 00:33:46,947
Speaker 13: the tournament, although it's a strange, it's been a strange

684
00:33:47,147 --> 00:33:49,587
Speaker 13: format where you can kind of, you know, nearly get

685
00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:52,227
Speaker 13: knocked out by Scotland in England's case, and then you know,

686
00:33:52,667 --> 00:33:54,587
Speaker 13: just about nearly make the final. I think it has

687
00:33:54,627 --> 00:33:57,467
Speaker 13: bubbled up the two best teams in those conditions, so

688
00:33:58,187 --> 00:33:59,587
Speaker 13: and it's a pretty mouthwatering final.

689
00:33:59,627 --> 00:34:01,307
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, we can talk about that at the moment,

690
00:34:01,307 --> 00:34:03,147
Speaker 5: But can I ask you I was about the grade cricketer.

691
00:34:03,307 --> 00:34:05,627
Speaker 5: It's just it's a phenomenon.

692
00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:05,907
Speaker 14: Man.

693
00:34:07,347 --> 00:34:10,067
Speaker 5: Did you have any idea when you first got your

694
00:34:10,147 --> 00:34:12,507
Speaker 5: hits together on this how big it would become?

695
00:34:13,867 --> 00:34:17,067
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah, there's actually what it

696
00:34:17,107 --> 00:34:18,387
Speaker 1: took us so long?

697
00:34:19,067 --> 00:34:25,667
Speaker 15: What's wrong with everyone? The genius that exists? No, I

698
00:34:25,667 --> 00:34:28,347
Speaker 15: mean it's sort of got a bit out of hand,

699
00:34:28,387 --> 00:34:32,347
Speaker 15: to be honest, Jason. It just started as it started

700
00:34:32,387 --> 00:34:36,587
Speaker 15: on Twitter twelve thirteen years ago. Now that rolled into

701
00:34:37,227 --> 00:34:39,387
Speaker 15: our first book in twenty fifteen. Did we started our

702
00:34:39,427 --> 00:34:43,387
Speaker 15: podcast twenty sixteen, second book twenty seventeen, TV twenty seventeen

703
00:34:43,427 --> 00:34:44,827
Speaker 15: as well, started doing YouTube?

704
00:34:44,827 --> 00:34:46,867
Speaker 2: More like one thing has just led to another.

705
00:34:46,987 --> 00:34:49,107
Speaker 15: Then why we started doing stuff on stage in twenty

706
00:34:49,187 --> 00:34:51,547
Speaker 15: eighteen as well? I think I think every time we've

707
00:34:51,547 --> 00:34:54,147
Speaker 15: put our minds to something and we've really enjoyed it,

708
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,747
Speaker 15: the audience has sort of attended to come along with us,

709
00:34:57,187 --> 00:35:00,547
Speaker 15: which is just unbelievably fortunate that we've managed to speak

710
00:35:00,547 --> 00:35:02,307
Speaker 15: in a way that I think most people tend to

711
00:35:02,387 --> 00:35:05,347
Speaker 15: find cricket. Their experience of cricket is the same as ours,

712
00:35:06,427 --> 00:35:11,467
Speaker 15: which is often dark and satirical and and traumatic, but

713
00:35:11,467 --> 00:35:13,387
Speaker 15: that is, that's most people was experience of cricket. So

714
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:15,587
Speaker 15: I think, like I think we were just lucky, and

715
00:35:15,787 --> 00:35:19,387
Speaker 15: I think we both had interest in you know, entertainment

716
00:35:19,587 --> 00:35:21,747
Speaker 15: so to speak. Before this, we had we had proper

717
00:35:21,827 --> 00:35:23,867
Speaker 15: jobs where our dads were happy with us before this,

718
00:35:24,507 --> 00:35:26,147
Speaker 15: and then we left it for you know, to do

719
00:35:26,227 --> 00:35:27,027
Speaker 15: some internet jokes.

720
00:35:27,027 --> 00:35:29,267
Speaker 2: But you know, it's I don't think we could.

721
00:35:29,307 --> 00:35:31,427
Speaker 15: We could never have predicted that it would end up,

722
00:35:32,507 --> 00:35:35,027
Speaker 15: you know, doing a show on Broadway with Rabis Shastra

723
00:35:35,147 --> 00:35:38,027
Speaker 15: on stage. That's just that's it still feels like a

724
00:35:38,107 --> 00:35:38,747
Speaker 15: dream that's happened.

725
00:35:38,787 --> 00:35:40,307
Speaker 2: You know. That's that's not the end.

726
00:35:40,787 --> 00:35:43,187
Speaker 15: Hopefully there's more to come from us, but no, it's

727
00:35:43,347 --> 00:35:46,907
Speaker 15: it's just got out of hand.

728
00:35:46,987 --> 00:35:49,307
Speaker 5: Yeah, look and in a fantastic way. Tell us about

729
00:35:49,307 --> 00:35:51,827
Speaker 5: that that Broadway show. I mean we're up there thinking,

730
00:35:52,547 --> 00:35:57,947
Speaker 5: what is this? We're on Broadway with Rabbish No, not

731
00:35:57,987 --> 00:36:01,267
Speaker 5: a gall Jason. Again, I was disappointed with the theater size.

732
00:36:01,387 --> 00:36:04,987
Speaker 5: I thought we could have actually played MSG. It was

733
00:36:05,027 --> 00:36:08,187
Speaker 5: Madison Square all, No, it was.

734
00:36:08,267 --> 00:36:10,427
Speaker 13: It was really it was very surreal, you know, the

735
00:36:11,467 --> 00:36:14,947
Speaker 13: idea that two guys like us who really played some

736
00:36:14,987 --> 00:36:17,987
Speaker 13: middling grade cricket. You know whose dreams in the game

737
00:36:18,107 --> 00:36:21,507
Speaker 13: died ten years before we stopped playing, would one day

738
00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:25,667
Speaker 13: be yeah on Broadway talking about cricket in front of

739
00:36:25,707 --> 00:36:28,747
Speaker 13: a thousand people. It was we're really we're really grateful

740
00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:30,827
Speaker 13: to everybody who's helped make it happen.

741
00:36:31,387 --> 00:36:33,907
Speaker 14: And there was a lot of goodwill around that show.

742
00:36:33,947 --> 00:36:36,147
Speaker 13: There was a lot of people in the you know,

743
00:36:36,187 --> 00:36:39,107
Speaker 13: Australian expact community there who were like saying, oh, we've

744
00:36:39,147 --> 00:36:39,947
Speaker 13: got to get to this show.

745
00:36:39,987 --> 00:36:41,467
Speaker 14: There's obviously we have.

746
00:36:41,587 --> 00:36:44,827
Speaker 13: We're really fortunate to have a really substantial Indian audience

747
00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:47,307
Speaker 13: who were really happy after India had beaten Pakistan the

748
00:36:47,387 --> 00:36:51,067
Speaker 13: day before. There's just look, you know, following on from

749
00:36:51,147 --> 00:36:53,947
Speaker 13: Higes's point, a lot of people like comedy with their

750
00:36:53,987 --> 00:36:55,787
Speaker 13: sport and I don't know if there is a lot

751
00:36:55,827 --> 00:36:58,227
Speaker 13: of it in media right, So we are filling a

752
00:36:58,227 --> 00:36:59,227
Speaker 13: gap that's not quite there.

753
00:36:59,267 --> 00:37:01,747
Speaker 14: There's more people coming into it. We're beneficiaries of the Internet,

754
00:37:01,787 --> 00:37:02,907
Speaker 14: and we even find a.

755
00:37:02,867 --> 00:37:05,707
Speaker 13: Lot of the players or ex players or commentators they

756
00:37:05,747 --> 00:37:07,067
Speaker 13: really like to be part of it as well.

757
00:37:07,107 --> 00:37:09,627
Speaker 14: Because people like laughs with their sport. That's probably what

758
00:37:09,707 --> 00:37:10,587
Speaker 14: sport is for a lot of them.

759
00:37:10,667 --> 00:37:13,307
Speaker 13: So We were lucky in being introduced to Ravi Shastri,

760
00:37:13,347 --> 00:37:14,867
Speaker 13: who was a guest on the night. He had a

761
00:37:14,867 --> 00:37:17,587
Speaker 13: great night, and yeah, it was it was a dream

762
00:37:17,627 --> 00:37:21,307
Speaker 13: come true. Really, it's quite surreal and we're really grateful

763
00:37:21,347 --> 00:37:22,947
Speaker 13: to have done it and for everyone who helped make

764
00:37:22,947 --> 00:37:23,307
Speaker 13: it happen.

765
00:37:23,387 --> 00:37:26,467
Speaker 5: I think what you do as well appears to me anyway,

766
00:37:26,627 --> 00:37:28,427
Speaker 5: and a lot of humor is based on sarcasm and

767
00:37:28,707 --> 00:37:30,587
Speaker 5: on giving a bit of you know, giving a bit

768
00:37:30,587 --> 00:37:32,227
Speaker 5: of gyp to people. It seems like you guys put

769
00:37:32,227 --> 00:37:34,987
Speaker 5: a positive lens on everything that you do. Is that intentional?

770
00:37:36,227 --> 00:37:40,267
Speaker 13: Oh I didn't notice that at all. Australia and India

771
00:37:40,267 --> 00:37:41,667
Speaker 13: in the World Cup. I don't think a lot of.

772
00:37:41,587 --> 00:37:43,547
Speaker 14: Indians thought the world put it in on a positive plane.

773
00:37:46,587 --> 00:37:48,707
Speaker 15: But it goes the other way because when when Afganisan,

774
00:37:48,747 --> 00:37:50,787
Speaker 15: you know, bowl New Zealand that for seventy five, they

775
00:37:50,867 --> 00:37:52,867
Speaker 15: boil us out for a similar amount, It's like, well,

776
00:37:53,067 --> 00:37:54,387
Speaker 15: what goes around comes around, you know.

777
00:37:55,467 --> 00:37:58,187
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think there is We have a very like

778
00:37:58,467 --> 00:38:01,307
Speaker 13: we like to exploit and put shine of light on

779
00:38:01,347 --> 00:38:03,787
Speaker 13: the darkness and brutality of cricket because that is the

780
00:38:03,827 --> 00:38:07,507
Speaker 13: actual nature of the game. But I think people Look,

781
00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:10,107
Speaker 13: you know, people will have their own views about us anyway.

782
00:38:10,147 --> 00:38:12,667
Speaker 13: Not not everybody likes us, but like I think when

783
00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:15,147
Speaker 13: people see after a period of time that we're quite

784
00:38:15,267 --> 00:38:18,507
Speaker 13: equal in the way we give a little bit of

785
00:38:18,587 --> 00:38:22,547
Speaker 13: lip to every country, that there's probably some affectionate kind

786
00:38:22,587 --> 00:38:24,747
Speaker 13: of response that we get from that. I mean, we're

787
00:38:24,827 --> 00:38:27,427
Speaker 13: so glad Australia got knocked out, you know, by the way,

788
00:38:27,467 --> 00:38:30,067
Speaker 13: because like our business booms when a cricket's and chaos,

789
00:38:30,147 --> 00:38:32,947
Speaker 13: so you never know, you just can't actually put a

790
00:38:32,987 --> 00:38:34,707
Speaker 13: price on how many people want to watch you after

791
00:38:34,707 --> 00:38:37,067
Speaker 13: Australia's failed, you know, Like Sandpaper was the best thing

792
00:38:37,107 --> 00:38:39,867
Speaker 13: that happened to us for TG, so we've always thanked

793
00:38:39,867 --> 00:38:40,587
Speaker 13: the boys.

794
00:38:40,307 --> 00:38:41,147
Speaker 2: For that, you know.

795
00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:44,827
Speaker 13: So it's really just trying to be as truthful as

796
00:38:44,827 --> 00:38:48,307
Speaker 13: possible about a lot of people's real experience of cricket,

797
00:38:48,347 --> 00:38:52,067
Speaker 13: which ultimately is underscored by love for the game, but

798
00:38:52,107 --> 00:38:53,387
Speaker 13: it also is a love for pain.

799
00:38:53,587 --> 00:38:55,467
Speaker 14: So that's all we've ever tried to do.

800
00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:58,947
Speaker 5: Yeah, incredibly authentic, A spectacular display of willpower too to

801
00:38:58,987 --> 00:39:01,707
Speaker 5: wait for eight minutes before mentioning New Zealand being bold

802
00:39:01,707 --> 00:39:04,587
Speaker 5: out for seventy five by Afghanistan. I must say it's

803
00:39:05,187 --> 00:39:08,027
Speaker 5: especially two on New Zealand or that is wonderful stuff

804
00:39:08,027 --> 00:39:12,107
Speaker 5: from from you guys just before you go South afrigat

805
00:39:12,147 --> 00:39:15,587
Speaker 5: India in the final, two unbeaten teams as neutrals, Who

806
00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:17,347
Speaker 5: should we who should we want to win?

807
00:39:18,707 --> 00:39:23,507
Speaker 15: I think it's going out to Yeah. I think the

808
00:39:23,587 --> 00:39:27,107
Speaker 15: Neutrals cheering on South Africa. I mean, I think the

809
00:39:27,467 --> 00:39:29,587
Speaker 15: pain they've been through now actually as I say that

810
00:39:29,627 --> 00:39:31,507
Speaker 15: India has been through perhaps even more pain just through

811
00:39:31,507 --> 00:39:34,187
Speaker 15: the weight of population and the expectation that they are

812
00:39:34,227 --> 00:39:36,507
Speaker 15: the favorites every single time they go into every tournament

813
00:39:36,587 --> 00:39:38,267
Speaker 15: yet never win. I mean, they haven't won anything in

814
00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:41,347
Speaker 15: eleven years since the champions Trophy, which for some reason

815
00:39:41,427 --> 00:39:45,387
Speaker 15: they count anyway. I think I think South Africa would

816
00:39:45,387 --> 00:39:47,267
Speaker 15: be the neutrals choice. I think they play a nice

817
00:39:47,307 --> 00:39:49,547
Speaker 15: brand of cricket. I think they've got very popular players.

818
00:39:50,347 --> 00:39:55,907
Speaker 15: It's exciting their middle order, power of Classen Miller, Tristan Stubbs, Ada, Markham,

819
00:39:55,947 --> 00:39:59,107
Speaker 15: you got Quentin to cock up top Caguise, Sir Robarta

820
00:39:59,147 --> 00:40:01,107
Speaker 15: one of the best. I mean, there's the very popular,

821
00:40:01,427 --> 00:40:03,427
Speaker 15: enjoyable cricketers to watch there not that's not to say

822
00:40:03,427 --> 00:40:05,507
Speaker 15: the Indian players aren't enjoyable to watch at all, but

823
00:40:05,987 --> 00:40:09,427
Speaker 15: I think that it's nice if Southriga won something for

824
00:40:09,467 --> 00:40:11,947
Speaker 15: the first time in a long time. I do think

825
00:40:11,987 --> 00:40:15,987
Speaker 15: that's what most people outside of India would be cheering for.

826
00:40:16,387 --> 00:40:18,827
Speaker 5: Incredible. Hey, guys, it has been such a pleasure to

827
00:40:18,827 --> 00:40:20,427
Speaker 5: have you on the show. I hope you get across

828
00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:22,427
Speaker 5: to New Zealand at some stage again soon. We'd love

829
00:40:22,467 --> 00:40:28,547
Speaker 5: to see you. We always enjoy losing to your teams

830
00:40:29,187 --> 00:40:31,867
Speaker 5: and mixing with your fans. Thanks for joining us across

831
00:40:31,867 --> 00:40:34,427
Speaker 5: New Zealand today. They really appreciate your time. Thanks Jan,

832
00:40:34,507 --> 00:40:37,747
Speaker 5: Thanks Jason, Thanks guys. That is the grade cricket up

833
00:40:37,787 --> 00:40:40,627
Speaker 5: here on weekend sport. Wonderful stuff. The T twenty Cricket

834
00:40:40,627 --> 00:40:43,387
Speaker 5: World Cup Final two thirty tomorrow morning, New Zealand time

835
00:40:43,427 --> 00:40:46,867
Speaker 5: and Barbados as South Africa take on Indie app seven

836
00:40:46,947 --> 00:40:49,507
Speaker 5: away from one. Don't forget Scott Robertson as our guest.

837
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Speaker 5: After one o'clock. You can start getting your questions through

838
00:40:52,227 --> 00:40:54,467
Speaker 5: on nine two nine two, or if you'd like to

839
00:40:54,587 --> 00:40:56,067
Speaker 5: jump the kill on the phone, you can do that too.

840
00:40:56,107 --> 00:40:59,467
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred and eighty Raiser, taking your calls and

841
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Speaker 5: answering a few of my questions. After one here on

842
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Speaker 5: News Talks, he'd.

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Speaker 1: Be live from the first All Blacks camp of twenty

844
00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:08,347
Speaker 1: twenty four on your Home of Sport.

845
00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:11,667
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847
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Speaker 5: Just on three and a half away from one. After

848
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Speaker 5: the one o'clock News the seat opposite me here at

849
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Speaker 5: the New Zealand Campus of Innovation and Sport will be

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851
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Speaker 5: important job in New Zealand, not the Prime Minister. No,

852
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Speaker 5: we couldn't get him today, not that we would have

853
00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:33,747
Speaker 5: wanted to. On Weekend Sport, the All Blacks coach head

854
00:41:33,747 --> 00:41:37,747
Speaker 5: coach Scott Robertson finally into the job. He joins us

855
00:41:37,827 --> 00:41:39,787
Speaker 5: after one o'clock for most of the next.

856
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Speaker 1: Hour, New Old Blacks Coat, New Old Blacks Coach Scott

857
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Speaker 5: Yes, it is welcome back into the show. This is

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Speaker 5: Weekend Sport on News Talk V coming to your live

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Speaker 5: from the wonderful New Zealand Campus of Innovation and Sports,

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Speaker 5: even past one. I'm Jason Pine. It is a great

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Speaker 5: pleasure to welcome in the man who, as I said

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Speaker 5: before one o'clock many believe, has the biggest job in

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Speaker 5: New Zealand, not the Prime Minister, but the coach of

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Speaker 5: the All Black Scott Robertson is here. Nice to see

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Speaker 5: your raizor how are you good?

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Speaker 3: Afternoon? Good to be in the hut and thanks having

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Speaker 3: me on. Jason.

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Speaker 5: It's great to have you with us. I've got a

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Speaker 5: bunch of questions. You'll have some as well. Nine two

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Speaker 5: ninety two for the text or eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 5: Scott's happy to take some of your calls and questions.

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Speaker 5: You were appointed All Blacks coach on the twenty first

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Speaker 5: of March twenty twenty three. You finally got your hands

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Speaker 5: on the squad. How are the four hundred and sixty

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Speaker 5: six days in between?

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Speaker 3: Obviously had a few games in between that before you

880
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Speaker 3: know the my last one down with the Crusaders, and

881
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Speaker 3: spent the off season painting getting all the selection of

882
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Speaker 3: the staff, so excuse me, the coaching group, management group

883
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Speaker 3: finalize how we're going to play, and then had a

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Speaker 3: whole super season to select and what the seasons it's been.

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Speaker 3: You know, some great name has been put up through

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Speaker 3: their performances, and you know over that period of time,

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Speaker 3: that year that you've had, because you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: coaching back to back to back over a long period

889
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Speaker 3: of time, it was good just to sit back and

890
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Speaker 3: reflect and make sure you're plan for the biggest year ever.

891
00:43:23,387 --> 00:43:27,787
Speaker 3: Fourteen tests, nine of them away, So it's good to

892
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Speaker 3: get some players in front of he.

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Speaker 5: I was going to ask that because how challenging has

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Speaker 5: it been, given the comparison to the last six seven

895
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Speaker 5: years or whatever it's been. When you're as the Crusaders coach,

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Speaker 5: you see your players week in week out, you're the

897
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Speaker 5: game on the weekend. How challenging has it been to

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Speaker 5: be patient and wait to get your hands on your team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you've because you've gotten for a short period

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Speaker 3: of time, You've got their ten days before your play,

901
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Speaker 3: You've got all these ideas, you've got all these thoughts

902
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Speaker 3: how you're going to beat England, But how do you

903
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Speaker 3: put it off across simply enough, so you give them enough,

904
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Speaker 3: not too much, not too little, you know, to find

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Speaker 3: balance and the art of it. So we've got a

906
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Speaker 3: lot of experienced players, you know, we've talked to them,

907
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Speaker 3: we've covered up day by day, we've go to have

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Speaker 3: a check. You know, you've got to get every day right,

909
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Speaker 3: not just a ten days, You've got to get every

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Speaker 3: day right. There's the first time we focused on how

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Speaker 3: do we own our own areas? And then the connection piece,

912
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Speaker 3: you know, and we'll talk about engencies when we out here.

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Speaker 3: This is the perfect place to do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a terrific facility in terms of coming up

915
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Speaker 5: with your squad. Let's talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 5: The first squad that you picked. Did you come up

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Speaker 5: with a game plan first and then select the players

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Speaker 5: to implement that game plan or did you look at

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Speaker 5: the New Zealand Elite rugby landscape and say, roc, I've

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Speaker 5: got those guys, here's the plan they might be able

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Speaker 5: to implement. Which way around was it?

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Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of both. You know, to

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Speaker 3: beat the team in front of you, your ability to adapt,

924
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Speaker 3: you know, if you're if you're going to play really

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Speaker 3: confronting head on game, go through teams or go around teams.

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Speaker 3: You've got to be able to do both. And I

927
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Speaker 3: think that's what we've done over the years, haven't we

928
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Speaker 3: is you know, got a high skill seat. You know

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Speaker 3: we're physical, you know, can offload in the tackle, we

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Speaker 3: can go through. We've got a great set piece, We've

931
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Speaker 3: got some you know, a really a balanced group. And

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Speaker 3: then it's how you manage the game and who's in

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Speaker 3: front of you. We know that you know, England stole

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Speaker 3: the pressure aside. They kicked up troum when you're in

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Speaker 3: the ground on you and you've got to adapt to that.

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Speaker 3: You know you might not get many options opportunities or

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Speaker 3: you might get a few, so be ready for both.

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Speaker 5: How did you come up with your captain?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The first thing for me is I look at that

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Speaker 3: as the on field captain, you know the captaincy. Are

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Speaker 3: they successful as captain? How hard do they work? Are

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Speaker 3: they respected by the opposition? And obviously I've mentioned before

944
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Speaker 3: with Scott's Scoter, it's easy because if you Scott's Scooter

945
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Speaker 3: is that he's all of those. We've got a great

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Speaker 3: relationship and he's the man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, did you allow him? I think I heard you say,

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Speaker 5: but did you allow him to select his vice captains

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Speaker 5: or did you have a hand in that as well?

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Speaker 19: Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, for sure. You know, I gave him a plenty

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Speaker 3: of time to think about the role. And he talked

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Speaker 3: to Smiley as you do if you're a Barrett. Yep,

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Speaker 3: God bless the Barretts and the you know, he went

955
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Speaker 3: through the process and he's a deep thinker and he

956
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Speaker 3: you know it was when he came back he was

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Speaker 3: extremely grateful for the opportunity to humbled and ready to go.

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Speaker 3: You know that the period and time and the captain

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Speaker 3: seeing the success he had where the Crusaders was a

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Speaker 3: great opportunity from the step up and where is it

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Speaker 3: in his age? Are you ready?

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Speaker 5: I feel like if you're asked to be the All

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Speaker 5: Blacks captain, you just say yes straight away? Or is

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Speaker 5: that not the case? Because clearly he went away and

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Speaker 5: thought long and hard about it. Did you ever think

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Speaker 5: he might say no?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: I just know how he works. I think if you

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Speaker 3: have said no straight away, that will be different. Like

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Speaker 3: he was nodding when he asked me when I asked

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Speaker 3: him sorry, and we had the conversation and he goes, yep, Yep,

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Speaker 3: I've just got to talk to a couple of people

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Speaker 3: when he did. That's just the way it works. People

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Speaker 3: are different.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, how conscious did you have to be when

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Speaker 5: selecting the team of your association with the Crusaders and

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Speaker 5: making sure that there was no suggestion that you were

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Speaker 5: just picking guys so you had a great knowledge of

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Speaker 5: from your time at the Crusaders. Did that come into

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Speaker 5: your mind at all?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm picking the best players, you know. I think

982
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Speaker 3: that's the key thing. Whatever jusies, they are wearing the

983
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Speaker 3: best parts for that position in our country. Obviously he's

984
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Speaker 3: going to be combinations and the you know, experience.

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Speaker 11: And.

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Speaker 3: But there was my mindset pick the best player. You know,

987
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Speaker 3: we've got a really good balanced squad, and you know,

988
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Speaker 3: you always have people challenge your thoughts, you know. The

989
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Speaker 3: way we set it up with our selection and our criteria,

990
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Speaker 3: with a selection, with the coaching staff doing it and

991
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Speaker 3: Smithy had a customer on it when you need to

992
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Speaker 3: and we had discussions. So look, I think it's really

993
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Speaker 3: really balanced. And I think if you're a coach and

994
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Speaker 3: you've coached a team, it's naturally people ask that question,

995
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Speaker 3: isn't it the last coach probably had the same question

996
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Speaker 3: as the last coach, the same question, say that you're

997
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Speaker 3: doing your job?

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess, because I think people just assume, and

999
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Speaker 5: I'm sure it's the case that you have got a

1000
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Speaker 5: deeper relationship with guys who you've guided for nearly a

1001
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Speaker 5: decade in Black and Red. You know what makes them tick,

1002
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Speaker 5: you know what they're capable of. So I guess it

1003
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Speaker 5: would be natural in any ways to say, you know what,

1004
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Speaker 5: I know what that guy's about. I'm not quite sure

1005
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Speaker 5: about that guy. If it's a flip of the coin,

1006
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Speaker 5: you take the guy you know, don't you?

1007
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Speaker 11: Yeah, But I.

1008
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Speaker 3: Suppose you've been an unconscious bias or is a natural

1009
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Speaker 3: bias towards people you know, and you've had desist and trust.

1010
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Speaker 3: But it's still gonna be earned. I think that's the

1011
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Speaker 3: first thing you know, And you said with a squad

1012
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Speaker 3: that we've picked, is it's been earned?

1013
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Speaker 5: And what about guys who you've worked with and had

1014
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Speaker 5: a long relationship with. In fact, I'll give you a

1015
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Speaker 5: specific example, David Harvelli leaving him out of this squad

1016
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Speaker 5: that difficult a conversation, was that.

1017
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Speaker 3: Just an honest one, really clear what he needs to do,

1018
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Speaker 3: you know, to get into the squad. And while we've

1019
00:49:23,267 --> 00:49:26,867
Speaker 3: done it, so that was a simple as that. Look,

1020
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Speaker 3: he appreciates it because you're honest with people for a

1021
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Speaker 3: long period of time, you build that trust and he

1022
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Speaker 3: acknowledged it. You know, he probably hadn't put himself in

1023
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Speaker 3: a position to be in that for And there's a

1024
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Speaker 3: players a couple of paths playing great footy and that's

1025
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Speaker 3: how hard it is with the All Blacks.

1026
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Speaker 5: Why didn't you select Hoskins Situtu?

1027
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Speaker 3: As I've said before, it's important I understanding and repeat

1028
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Speaker 3: and what I've said.

1029
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Speaker 5: Before, just pretend it's for the first time.

1030
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Speaker 3: Look test football, it's very very physical with the ball

1031
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Speaker 3: and without the ball, and so especially with the loose forwards.

1032
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Speaker 3: It's the ability to influence on both sides, you know,

1033
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Speaker 3: the pressure cycles that you're on, the ability to be

1034
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Speaker 3: tackling for long periods of time, your work right off

1035
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Speaker 3: the balls really really important. So there's conversations I've had

1036
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Speaker 3: and we've put players that we believe can achieve it.

1037
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Speaker 5: Is it fair to say that Ardie sav is likely

1038
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Speaker 5: to be the starting number eight and therefore anybody else

1039
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Speaker 5: in the number eight position is that's naturally going to

1040
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Speaker 5: be a bit of a backup anyway.

1041
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Speaker 3: Wells will play, Yeah, start there. He can play footy.

1042
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Speaker 3: He's a great, great influence, great leader, like he's awesome

1043
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Speaker 3: around the environment. And look here, totally likely he's going

1044
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Speaker 3: to he's going to start in the team. And you know,

1045
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Speaker 3: like what he did the World Cup and he's done

1046
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Speaker 3: the last few years of influence on off the fields

1047
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Speaker 3: very critical.

1048
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Speaker 5: Tell us about the brief that you gave to each

1049
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Speaker 5: of your assistant coaches around selection. I spoke to Jason

1050
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Speaker 5: Holland on the radio at the beginning of the week

1051
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Speaker 5: just after the team was naming. I got the midfield backs,

1052
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Speaker 5: Scott Hanson got half backs and first fights. You still

1053
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Speaker 5: had the power to veto though presumably.

1054
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what That's why you're the head coach. And

1055
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Speaker 3: here goes. If things don't go well on you, you

1056
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Speaker 3: get the opportunity to make the calls. And it's going

1057
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Speaker 3: to be always a debate along the way. In lock

1058
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Speaker 3: nine of them were we agreed and it's like most things,

1059
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Speaker 3: is says the last couple that you go deep on

1060
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Speaker 3: and then if you have to make a call, you do.

1061
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Speaker 5: You've got rugby championship and then the end of your too.

1062
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Speaker 5: How many guys you reckon you'll need this year forty Yeah.

1063
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Speaker 3: On average, we looked at the numbers. There's somewhere between

1064
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Speaker 3: sort of forty maybe to forty four if fit a

1065
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:09,027
Speaker 3: little bit more difficult, but so there's going to be opportunities.

1066
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Speaker 3: You know, there's the squad's going we have three different

1067
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Speaker 3: squads this year. We're we're going on an incredible end

1068
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Speaker 3: of the year tour as you know. And these are

1069
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Speaker 3: AB's fifteen as well. So there's a lot of selections

1070
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Speaker 3: or opportunities for people to play and get themselves in

1071
00:52:25,827 --> 00:52:26,467
Speaker 3: a black jersey.

1072
00:52:26,747 --> 00:52:29,627
Speaker 5: How do you assess the depth of I'll give you

1073
00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:32,747
Speaker 5: a couple of positions, Locke, we lost Sam White, Lock,

1074
00:52:32,787 --> 00:52:35,467
Speaker 5: Brady Rutallic, we almost lost Patrick too, a lot of

1075
00:52:35,787 --> 00:52:38,987
Speaker 5: but incredibly as powers of a recovery were beyond what

1076
00:52:39,067 --> 00:52:41,987
Speaker 5: any of us imagined. How do you assess our depth

1077
00:52:42,267 --> 00:52:42,907
Speaker 5: at lock forward?

1078
00:52:45,387 --> 00:52:48,107
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting when you do like two in a row,

1079
00:52:48,227 --> 00:52:50,827
Speaker 3: like two at the same time. Sorry, the highest quality

1080
00:52:52,307 --> 00:52:54,747
Speaker 3: you do look and reflect and obviously with Petty coming

1081
00:52:54,787 --> 00:52:57,827
Speaker 3: in for the odd tests, you've got scoters on sixty

1082
00:52:57,827 --> 00:53:01,827
Speaker 3: odd and you've you know, the Josh Lord's been injured

1083
00:53:01,827 --> 00:53:05,347
Speaker 3: the majority of the year and test locks are big,

1084
00:53:05,427 --> 00:53:09,427
Speaker 3: they're beg, they're all men, all the extremely mobile and

1085
00:53:09,467 --> 00:53:12,867
Speaker 3: you look at the Irish a second row, just the

1086
00:53:12,907 --> 00:53:17,347
Speaker 3: incredible mobility of it. So look, that's one area like

1087
00:53:18,147 --> 00:53:20,147
Speaker 3: in the obviously with Petty coming back made a massive

1088
00:53:20,147 --> 00:53:22,267
Speaker 3: difference for us. But you know we've got a merging,

1089
00:53:22,907 --> 00:53:26,067
Speaker 3: merging place program that we tag in with' you know,

1090
00:53:26,107 --> 00:53:28,667
Speaker 3: looking at them on and off field, which trying to

1091
00:53:28,667 --> 00:53:30,907
Speaker 3: fast track them as possibly can to make sure they

1092
00:53:30,947 --> 00:53:32,827
Speaker 3: come through and get the size on they get the

1093
00:53:32,907 --> 00:53:34,907
Speaker 3: aerial schools that required a.

1094
00:53:36,707 --> 00:53:37,147
Speaker 6: Lot of them.

1095
00:53:37,307 --> 00:53:40,147
Speaker 3: You know, tor men take time. They're a little bit

1096
00:53:40,227 --> 00:53:42,467
Speaker 3: longer than others. You know, they can develop blade. You

1097
00:53:42,507 --> 00:53:45,067
Speaker 3: know Sam Day's in with us. You know he's sahig

1098
00:53:45,187 --> 00:53:48,227
Speaker 3: as Sam White. I've got good feet work, footwork, he's

1099
00:53:48,267 --> 00:53:50,547
Speaker 3: got a great engine. So him just being in this

1100
00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:53,467
Speaker 3: week and being around in his injurycovery is you know,

1101
00:53:53,507 --> 00:53:55,147
Speaker 3: he'll just grow and he'll come quick.

1102
00:53:55,667 --> 00:53:58,627
Speaker 5: And by comparison, there seems to be any number of

1103
00:53:58,707 --> 00:54:02,067
Speaker 5: loose forward You've got to chose the opposition of us.

1104
00:54:02,227 --> 00:54:04,187
Speaker 5: Love watching all the six sevens and eight running around.

1105
00:54:04,187 --> 00:54:08,107
Speaker 3: Are you, Oh, the quality of the depth, the different

1106
00:54:08,107 --> 00:54:10,427
Speaker 3: skill set, you know, your trademarks have got, you know,

1107
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:14,547
Speaker 3: things that they go back to their strengths, you under

1108
00:54:14,587 --> 00:54:17,747
Speaker 3: the head of the game. And you know, like I

1109
00:54:17,787 --> 00:54:21,707
Speaker 3: as a prime example, water season, breakout season for them,

1110
00:54:21,907 --> 00:54:25,747
Speaker 3: both break great both sides of the ball, so quick

1111
00:54:25,747 --> 00:54:28,467
Speaker 3: in the line out as eight. But you to pay seven,

1112
00:54:28,507 --> 00:54:30,587
Speaker 3: eight and two positions. And that's a great thing about

1113
00:54:30,747 --> 00:54:33,707
Speaker 3: the loose food ward group that we've got here. They

1114
00:54:33,747 --> 00:54:38,987
Speaker 3: all can play two positions, you know, especially if you're

1115
00:54:38,987 --> 00:54:41,027
Speaker 3: going to be on the bench, if you're going to

1116
00:54:41,107 --> 00:54:42,667
Speaker 3: come off the bench, you've got to play a couple

1117
00:54:42,787 --> 00:54:43,787
Speaker 3: or three.

1118
00:54:44,307 --> 00:54:44,667
Speaker 1: Are you.

1119
00:54:44,707 --> 00:54:46,747
Speaker 5: Do you think the days of a lock loose forward

1120
00:54:46,867 --> 00:54:48,907
Speaker 5: utility you're gone? Or is that still a thing?

1121
00:54:49,067 --> 00:54:49,307
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1122
00:54:49,747 --> 00:54:52,627
Speaker 3: Look, I think Shennon Frazel was a prime example of that.

1123
00:54:52,667 --> 00:54:57,027
Speaker 3: Some a penny female can can do it all the

1124
00:54:57,067 --> 00:54:59,667
Speaker 3: other way around. You know, just can go to six

1125
00:54:59,707 --> 00:55:04,187
Speaker 3: if required, which is done many times just because you're

1126
00:55:04,267 --> 00:55:06,347
Speaker 3: you're locking stock. So yeah, look, you've got still got

1127
00:55:06,387 --> 00:55:08,147
Speaker 3: hybrid players. You've got players can play in a couple

1128
00:55:08,147 --> 00:55:09,587
Speaker 3: of positions. Look at the south evering and you can

1129
00:55:09,627 --> 00:55:12,587
Speaker 3: go number eight and hooker and I think it's really

1130
00:55:12,787 --> 00:55:15,227
Speaker 3: critical as you get closer to World Cup cycles. You

1131
00:55:15,987 --> 00:55:19,627
Speaker 3: know you're thirty three, that you're picking the versatility and

1132
00:55:19,667 --> 00:55:22,547
Speaker 3: the ability to play two or three positions will get

1133
00:55:22,587 --> 00:55:23,067
Speaker 3: you in the squad.

1134
00:55:23,307 --> 00:55:24,547
Speaker 5: You mentioned the World Cup there and I had that

1135
00:55:24,627 --> 00:55:26,827
Speaker 5: written down. How much of what you do in twenty

1136
00:55:26,867 --> 00:55:29,507
Speaker 5: twenty four is with an eye to the next Rugby

1137
00:55:29,547 --> 00:55:31,267
Speaker 5: World Cup in twenty twenty seven.

1138
00:55:33,307 --> 00:55:36,067
Speaker 3: Look, I think the importance of the Big Jersey is

1139
00:55:36,107 --> 00:55:40,347
Speaker 3: you win and develop. There's a little bit of expectation

1140
00:55:40,507 --> 00:55:43,227
Speaker 3: that comes with that, and I'm well aware of that,

1141
00:55:43,427 --> 00:55:50,027
Speaker 3: and so it's important the win that test batch in

1142
00:55:50,067 --> 00:55:53,667
Speaker 3: front of you, but grow people, give them opportunities, get

1143
00:55:53,667 --> 00:55:58,587
Speaker 3: them in combinations and so they over You set them

1144
00:55:58,627 --> 00:56:01,067
Speaker 3: up to succeed over the next four years. Try them.

1145
00:56:01,107 --> 00:56:04,067
Speaker 3: Are they test for ballers? Can they handle it? Can

1146
00:56:04,107 --> 00:56:07,707
Speaker 3: you the weeks have big dictations, high the pressures are

1147
00:56:07,747 --> 00:56:09,107
Speaker 3: and we get them ready for it, and then the

1148
00:56:09,227 --> 00:56:12,467
Speaker 3: opportunities for them when we find out and in some

1149
00:56:12,467 --> 00:56:13,307
Speaker 3: people surprise you.

1150
00:56:13,827 --> 00:56:16,827
Speaker 5: What about guys who you aren't sure will make it

1151
00:56:16,867 --> 00:56:19,227
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty seven, they're you know, they're in their

1152
00:56:19,227 --> 00:56:21,547
Speaker 5: thirties and there is some guys in your squad with

1153
00:56:21,867 --> 00:56:24,747
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of experience, who might who is

1154
00:56:24,787 --> 00:56:29,147
Speaker 5: everybody who's been picked this week? Do you think that

1155
00:56:29,187 --> 00:56:33,067
Speaker 5: they'll be eligible or available in twenty twenty seven?

1156
00:56:33,107 --> 00:56:37,587
Speaker 3: All going well, oh, it's a good question without going

1157
00:56:37,587 --> 00:56:40,867
Speaker 3: through the food DoD that we're here off the top

1158
00:56:40,907 --> 00:56:48,107
Speaker 3: of my mind. Oh, look, it's amazing how old you

1159
00:56:48,187 --> 00:56:50,987
Speaker 3: can get, you know, no joint injuries in your career,

1160
00:56:52,427 --> 00:56:56,507
Speaker 3: the longevity can get after looking after your body, the

1161
00:56:58,147 --> 00:57:01,947
Speaker 3: you know, the sports science, the recovery is incredible, and

1162
00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:03,907
Speaker 3: like they're playing good Rabian like look at look at

1163
00:57:03,907 --> 00:57:05,867
Speaker 3: the South African team. They had a lot of goal

1164
00:57:05,987 --> 00:57:12,147
Speaker 3: oh older mature players that had great leadership and in

1165
00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:14,467
Speaker 3: the last allback squad that went over, you know, it's

1166
00:57:14,467 --> 00:57:17,787
Speaker 3: still playing good footy. Den look at us Dan culture

1167
00:57:17,947 --> 00:57:21,867
Speaker 3: to look at his you know, contribution on and off

1168
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:24,187
Speaker 3: the field. So you need them for sure. Look, I

1169
00:57:24,187 --> 00:57:27,667
Speaker 3: can't answer it right now four years out, but I'm

1170
00:57:27,707 --> 00:57:30,627
Speaker 3: sure there are in any way, just.

1171
00:57:30,547 --> 00:57:33,387
Speaker 5: A couple of morelef you take a break. How much

1172
00:57:33,427 --> 00:57:36,467
Speaker 5: of what was so successful for you at the Crusaders

1173
00:57:37,147 --> 00:57:41,227
Speaker 5: is transferable into the all blacks environment, all.

1174
00:57:41,107 --> 00:57:43,427
Speaker 3: The culture and leadership stuff, and like on field coaching,

1175
00:57:43,467 --> 00:57:45,667
Speaker 3: That's how I sort of break it up those three areas.

1176
00:57:46,587 --> 00:57:49,627
Speaker 3: You've got to get your game right, along with your

1177
00:57:49,707 --> 00:57:53,867
Speaker 3: leadership how they how do they drive the team on

1178
00:57:53,947 --> 00:57:55,747
Speaker 3: and off the field. And then also the cultural but

1179
00:57:55,987 --> 00:57:57,987
Speaker 3: you know which your identity, who you are, where you're

1180
00:57:58,027 --> 00:58:03,227
Speaker 3: playing for, what do you care about any roles in responsibilities?

1181
00:58:03,227 --> 00:58:05,227
Speaker 3: And then there comes with the cultural the people side

1182
00:58:05,227 --> 00:58:07,787
Speaker 3: of it. So a lot of that transference comes along

1183
00:58:07,787 --> 00:58:10,267
Speaker 3: and it's a black jusey. We're taking it to a

1184
00:58:10,267 --> 00:58:15,507
Speaker 3: whole country now. You know, we've got a great responsibility

1185
00:58:15,667 --> 00:58:18,507
Speaker 3: that we've been given by you know, our ancestors and

1186
00:58:18,507 --> 00:58:20,787
Speaker 3: the people that have played in our jeuwsy before and

1187
00:58:20,827 --> 00:58:24,067
Speaker 3: all the fans that have been with us along along

1188
00:58:24,067 --> 00:58:26,547
Speaker 3: the way. So it's just a lot bigger.

1189
00:58:28,227 --> 00:58:29,987
Speaker 5: If I'm just trying to think of the right way

1190
00:58:29,987 --> 00:58:32,547
Speaker 5: to ask this question, but if someone looked down from

1191
00:58:32,627 --> 00:58:34,747
Speaker 5: above and wasn't able to see whether you were the

1192
00:58:34,787 --> 00:58:37,667
Speaker 5: Crusaders coach the all Blacks coach, well they notice a difference.

1193
00:58:37,907 --> 00:58:39,467
Speaker 5: Do you think you'll be different in an all Blacks

1194
00:58:39,547 --> 00:58:42,227
Speaker 5: environment than you were in the Crusaders environment?

1195
00:58:42,827 --> 00:58:43,547
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1196
00:58:43,547 --> 00:58:45,227
Speaker 5: Well, I think you probably will be. I think you

1197
00:58:45,347 --> 00:58:47,467
Speaker 5: probably will be like I'm interested to know how.

1198
00:58:47,387 --> 00:58:50,987
Speaker 3: Though look on I'm still the same perceed. I'm not

1199
00:58:51,027 --> 00:58:53,867
Speaker 3: going to You know that the energy I bring every

1200
00:58:53,947 --> 00:58:55,627
Speaker 3: day and the enjoyment of it, and you know that

1201
00:58:55,667 --> 00:58:58,267
Speaker 3: we just hit a couple of hours training and I'm

1202
00:58:58,467 --> 00:59:03,707
Speaker 3: walking around observing chipping and when I need to giving

1203
00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:07,227
Speaker 3: a little bit of feedback to the coach to just

1204
00:59:07,507 --> 00:59:10,547
Speaker 3: using my eye. But because of Bredain with you know

1205
00:59:10,627 --> 00:59:12,787
Speaker 3: the on field and off field stuff. You know, we've

1206
00:59:12,827 --> 00:59:16,707
Speaker 3: got a commercial manager now and a rugby manager. You

1207
00:59:16,787 --> 00:59:19,467
Speaker 3: know we've got two CEOs in our organization. There's a

1208
00:59:19,467 --> 00:59:23,147
Speaker 3: couple of hundred staff, so it's bigger to give you context,

1209
00:59:23,147 --> 00:59:26,987
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know five seven lawyers. You know

1210
00:59:27,027 --> 00:59:33,827
Speaker 3: we've got. It's big. So you need incredible coaching group

1211
00:59:33,867 --> 00:59:37,307
Speaker 3: around you and incredible management and they have to be

1212
00:59:37,347 --> 00:59:40,267
Speaker 3: world leading. They truly do. So you know, I do

1213
00:59:40,387 --> 00:59:42,267
Speaker 3: my thing, but you have to give ownership and trust

1214
00:59:42,267 --> 00:59:45,227
Speaker 3: to so many people to go and and on their

1215
00:59:45,347 --> 00:59:48,307
Speaker 3: role and make the place will get the past prepared

1216
00:59:48,347 --> 00:59:51,507
Speaker 3: for you to be the best they can.

1217
00:59:51,827 --> 00:59:54,427
Speaker 5: Last question before the break is around how big it

1218
00:59:54,547 --> 00:59:57,227
Speaker 5: is and how little time you have? How do you

1219
00:59:57,867 --> 01:00:00,827
Speaker 5: work out the best use on each day and each hour.

1220
01:00:00,947 --> 01:00:02,747
Speaker 5: I mean, you've given us an hour. This is incredible.

1221
01:00:02,747 --> 01:00:04,587
Speaker 5: I know you're so busy, but how do you work

1222
01:00:04,587 --> 01:00:05,987
Speaker 5: out the best use of every hour?

1223
01:00:06,027 --> 01:00:06,347
Speaker 12: In your.

1224
01:00:08,067 --> 01:00:11,227
Speaker 3: Look, You've got to have time for people. It's number one.

1225
01:00:11,747 --> 01:00:16,947
Speaker 3: And you've got to get your planning done early. And

1226
01:00:16,987 --> 01:00:22,387
Speaker 3: then it's getting time in front, eyes on, eyes around

1227
01:00:22,547 --> 01:00:25,827
Speaker 3: the opportunities when you're eating their connection piece on and off,

1228
01:00:26,027 --> 01:00:28,867
Speaker 3: being a steppy head looking not what that day is,

1229
01:00:28,947 --> 01:00:31,147
Speaker 3: but the next week is in a couple of weeks.

1230
01:00:31,467 --> 01:00:33,347
Speaker 3: You know, when you start getting into the NPC and

1231
01:00:33,387 --> 01:00:38,387
Speaker 3: you've got guys playing, you're looking at the schedule for

1232
01:00:38,427 --> 01:00:40,387
Speaker 3: the NPC, you've got all the injured guys that are

1233
01:00:40,427 --> 01:00:43,307
Speaker 3: coming back and forward. You know, you're starting to work

1234
01:00:43,347 --> 01:00:47,307
Speaker 3: with Clayton McMillan around the eight all backs fifteen. You're

1235
01:00:47,307 --> 01:00:50,067
Speaker 3: starting to share. So there's a lot of big picture

1236
01:00:50,147 --> 01:00:53,027
Speaker 3: stuff that comes along with it. And I love it.

1237
01:00:53,107 --> 01:00:57,107
Speaker 3: I like, I really enjoy it. I love forecasting being ahead,

1238
01:00:57,747 --> 01:01:02,867
Speaker 3: not just like I said, from now until the end

1239
01:01:02,867 --> 01:01:03,227
Speaker 3: of the year.

1240
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:06,867
Speaker 5: Our guest at the New Zealand Campus Innovation and Sport

1241
01:01:06,907 --> 01:01:08,587
Speaker 5: of Course as head coach of the All Black Scott

1242
01:01:08,667 --> 01:01:10,667
Speaker 5: Robertson one twenty six. We're going to take a break,

1243
01:01:10,787 --> 01:01:12,427
Speaker 5: have a glass of water here and then come back

1244
01:01:12,427 --> 01:01:14,027
Speaker 5: with some of your calls. Are there are a couple

1245
01:01:14,067 --> 01:01:16,627
Speaker 5: lined up with some interesting questions. Text them through nine

1246
01:01:16,707 --> 01:01:19,427
Speaker 5: two nine two or eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1247
01:01:19,627 --> 01:01:20,907
Speaker 5: if you want to try your luck on the phones

1248
01:01:20,947 --> 01:01:22,547
Speaker 5: back in a moment on Weekend Sport.

1249
01:01:23,107 --> 01:01:26,507
Speaker 1: New Old Blacks coach Scott Robertson taking your calls on

1250
01:01:26,747 --> 01:01:29,787
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekends Sport with Jason

1251
01:01:29,867 --> 01:01:34,427
Speaker 1: Pinne and is Gjacer Loves New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1252
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Speaker 5: News Talk sa'd be one thirty on News Talks here

1253
01:01:37,307 --> 01:01:39,627
Speaker 5: be you got another fifteen minutes or so with Scott Robertson.

1254
01:01:39,667 --> 01:01:39,787
Speaker 10: Here.

1255
01:01:39,867 --> 01:01:42,067
Speaker 5: Let's go to the phones and get some questions from

1256
01:01:42,107 --> 01:01:45,707
Speaker 5: our audience. Stuart, your question for us, Scott Robertson.

1257
01:01:46,627 --> 01:01:49,347
Speaker 20: Oh, thanks, thanks gentlemen for the opportunity.

1258
01:01:50,187 --> 01:01:50,507
Speaker 11: Coach.

1259
01:01:51,627 --> 01:01:53,627
Speaker 20: I know it's not a good thing to jump ahead

1260
01:01:53,707 --> 01:01:59,227
Speaker 20: to future test matchers. I'm just thinking about the Rugby

1261
01:01:59,307 --> 01:02:03,227
Speaker 20: Championship and the two Test matches coming up in South Africa.

1262
01:02:04,707 --> 01:02:11,987
Speaker 20: I noted that that the South Africans employed a situation

1263
01:02:12,067 --> 01:02:16,547
Speaker 20: where they had eight forwards in the reserves. I think

1264
01:02:16,587 --> 01:02:20,187
Speaker 20: they called it like an eight mill split. And it

1265
01:02:20,187 --> 01:02:23,587
Speaker 20: occurs to me that you could almost a big forward,

1266
01:02:23,667 --> 01:02:26,787
Speaker 20: you could almost have two lots of forwards in an

1267
01:02:26,787 --> 01:02:30,907
Speaker 20: eighty minute test match. I know it's the gamble, but

1268
01:02:31,267 --> 01:02:34,027
Speaker 20: do you do you fear something like that or do

1269
01:02:34,067 --> 01:02:38,227
Speaker 20: you see some merit in an eight nail split?

1270
01:02:38,307 --> 01:02:43,027
Speaker 3: Sir, good question, Thanks Stuart, thanks for calling. And it's

1271
01:02:43,947 --> 01:02:49,387
Speaker 3: an eight muchure about eight. Sometimes it's seven, seven, one

1272
01:02:49,507 --> 01:02:53,187
Speaker 3: or sixty split, but that's an whole four pack. Jason

1273
01:02:53,267 --> 01:02:58,107
Speaker 3: One once said, next, I just say that he'll probably

1274
01:02:58,187 --> 01:03:00,987
Speaker 3: employ it. But look, I think especially in Said Africa,

1275
01:03:01,027 --> 01:03:04,787
Speaker 3: that's this is strength. You know, they've the impact that

1276
01:03:04,827 --> 01:03:08,227
Speaker 3: they can bring on person. If he lose it back early,

1277
01:03:08,387 --> 01:03:10,027
Speaker 3: it makes things a little bit difficult. You're going to

1278
01:03:10,067 --> 01:03:15,027
Speaker 3: lose wood on the wing potentially. But I look, let's

1279
01:03:15,027 --> 01:03:19,307
Speaker 3: just talk about the trip to South Africa. It's a

1280
01:03:19,347 --> 01:03:22,747
Speaker 3: hell of an opportunity in a hell of a test

1281
01:03:22,747 --> 01:03:24,787
Speaker 3: for us to go to Joe get down the Cape,

1282
01:03:24,827 --> 01:03:28,907
Speaker 3: down the Cape down for seven eight years like us

1283
01:03:28,907 --> 01:03:31,347
Speaker 3: playing down there s so to open that up and

1284
01:03:31,467 --> 01:03:34,467
Speaker 3: you know, lot of Keywis are coming over because it's special.

1285
01:03:34,627 --> 01:03:37,347
Speaker 3: You know, that's the special part. Those are getting up

1286
01:03:37,387 --> 01:03:38,907
Speaker 3: in the middle of the night memories, aren't they from

1287
01:03:38,947 --> 01:03:44,307
Speaker 3: a young kid to watch them? Great heroes of ourselves

1288
01:03:44,347 --> 01:03:47,907
Speaker 3: all be still come from behind big long drop kicks.

1289
01:03:47,947 --> 01:03:49,627
Speaker 3: We've had everything over there, so it's going to be

1290
01:03:49,627 --> 01:03:50,827
Speaker 3: a special couple of weeks for us.

1291
01:03:50,947 --> 01:03:53,347
Speaker 5: Yeah, brilliant, Thank you, Stu, what I appreciate it. You've

1292
01:03:53,347 --> 01:03:56,067
Speaker 5: got a question for Scott Robertson about his name I

1293
01:03:56,107 --> 01:03:57,307
Speaker 5: think or his nickname.

1294
01:03:57,427 --> 01:04:00,787
Speaker 21: Yes I have, but before I start, could I please

1295
01:04:01,387 --> 01:04:07,467
Speaker 21: just congratulate Scott on his lovely docer on TV called Razor,

1296
01:04:08,387 --> 01:04:11,747
Speaker 21: and I've been watching it. I think his next career

1297
01:04:11,827 --> 01:04:17,947
Speaker 21: might be in TV. Just before I start. Ninety four

1298
01:04:18,027 --> 01:04:21,987
Speaker 21: years of age, and I've been watching the Canterbury team

1299
01:04:22,227 --> 01:04:25,667
Speaker 21: ever since. Well I can't remember when Robie Dinnes was

1300
01:04:25,707 --> 01:04:29,627
Speaker 21: playing for back then and etc. But I've always followed

1301
01:04:29,627 --> 01:04:34,867
Speaker 21: the Crusaders. Absolutely love him and congratulations when you had them,

1302
01:04:34,867 --> 01:04:38,227
Speaker 21: and I hope you're as successful as the All Blacks.

1303
01:04:38,867 --> 01:04:39,107
Speaker 4: Now.

1304
01:04:39,267 --> 01:04:42,147
Speaker 21: The question I was going to ask you is how

1305
01:04:42,267 --> 01:04:45,547
Speaker 21: you got the name Raiser, and the other one is

1306
01:04:47,027 --> 01:04:49,787
Speaker 21: do you get annoy amount of people and they're so

1307
01:04:49,987 --> 01:04:53,387
Speaker 21: called in the media as well. You keep calling you Robinson.

1308
01:04:58,347 --> 01:05:07,387
Speaker 3: You're right on. Yeah, look doca here it was done

1309
01:05:07,427 --> 01:05:09,787
Speaker 3: a while back, and I think people appreciate off. I

1310
01:05:09,987 --> 01:05:11,867
Speaker 3: actually can't watch you. I can't watch myself do that

1311
01:05:11,907 --> 01:05:14,747
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So I'm glad people enjoying, so thank you.

1312
01:05:15,267 --> 01:05:22,107
Speaker 3: And I look, the nickname, well, it's a long story.

1313
01:05:22,147 --> 01:05:23,947
Speaker 3: Somebody else gave me another nickname. We said the like,

1314
01:05:23,987 --> 01:05:29,187
Speaker 3: so I gave myself my one, which is stuck. Fortunately.

1315
01:05:29,227 --> 01:05:34,587
Speaker 3: And what happened was we had a guy David Knox

1316
01:05:35,547 --> 01:05:39,307
Speaker 3: and Pet Pet Howard did I want to cut for

1317
01:05:39,347 --> 01:05:42,187
Speaker 3: the Brumbies. It was nineteen ninety six. The Crusaders were

1318
01:05:42,187 --> 01:05:45,347
Speaker 3: playing at Linkage the Park then and I threw my

1319
01:05:45,387 --> 01:05:46,947
Speaker 3: shoulder and cut him and half. Like it was a

1320
01:05:46,947 --> 01:05:49,227
Speaker 3: good tackle. It was. It was a brilliant person. And

1321
01:05:49,227 --> 01:05:50,867
Speaker 3: I got off and just the shoulder off and one

1322
01:05:50,867 --> 01:05:54,627
Speaker 3: of the boys said what are you doing And I said, oh,

1323
01:05:54,667 --> 01:05:56,627
Speaker 3: you know, just dusting off the blade and it's what

1324
01:05:56,667 --> 01:05:58,747
Speaker 3: do you mean? And I said, oh, you know, they'll

1325
01:05:58,827 --> 01:06:01,867
Speaker 3: razor bow cut himing half and through a little bit

1326
01:06:01,907 --> 01:06:04,667
Speaker 3: of branding, a lot of lot you know, a bit

1327
01:06:04,667 --> 01:06:07,827
Speaker 3: of a song and a dance that stuck. So he's

1328
01:06:07,907 --> 01:06:08,467
Speaker 3: the story.

1329
01:06:08,707 --> 01:06:11,267
Speaker 5: I love it. Thank you Fai for your for your

1330
01:06:11,547 --> 01:06:14,387
Speaker 5: call and your lovely words as well. Let's go to

1331
01:06:14,427 --> 01:06:16,707
Speaker 5: pick Pete. What's your question for for your Blacks coach?

1332
01:06:18,707 --> 01:06:21,707
Speaker 9: Hey? I was just wondering what he sees as the

1333
01:06:21,827 --> 01:06:25,587
Speaker 9: makeup for the half back first five combination with Cortis

1334
01:06:25,667 --> 01:06:28,867
Speaker 9: Radama and d Neck or does.

1335
01:06:28,707 --> 01:06:33,267
Speaker 22: They see body at fallback or Stephen going to start there?

1336
01:06:33,707 --> 01:06:36,707
Speaker 22: But the makeup there I think is really pither played

1337
01:06:36,707 --> 01:06:40,667
Speaker 22: together during the during the season and they know each

1338
01:06:40,707 --> 01:06:43,627
Speaker 22: other really well, and I think d Mack will just

1339
01:06:43,707 --> 01:06:46,027
Speaker 22: keep him calm while he is here. If he does,

1340
01:06:46,067 --> 01:06:49,307
Speaker 22: he just chance not to say that Finlay's is great.

1341
01:06:49,507 --> 01:06:52,187
Speaker 22: But are you looking at combinations here or is it

1342
01:06:52,347 --> 01:06:55,027
Speaker 22: going to be something else depending on the makeup of

1343
01:06:55,067 --> 01:06:57,227
Speaker 22: the English team you thinks?

1344
01:06:57,267 --> 01:06:58,947
Speaker 3: Pete? Can I ask you a question you from? Was

1345
01:06:58,987 --> 01:06:59,787
Speaker 3: he from workday?

1346
01:07:01,147 --> 01:07:01,187
Speaker 6: No?

1347
01:07:01,507 --> 01:07:01,587
Speaker 4: Not?

1348
01:07:01,747 --> 01:07:02,107
Speaker 22: Actually?

1349
01:07:02,627 --> 01:07:07,867
Speaker 3: Okay, whatever way you go, everyone to select it the whole.

1350
01:07:08,547 --> 01:07:11,827
Speaker 3: But yeah, a good question. Obviously Tuesday will definitely find out.

1351
01:07:11,867 --> 01:07:13,587
Speaker 3: But you do look at combinations and someone like a

1352
01:07:13,667 --> 01:07:19,387
Speaker 3: courtis Latimo, who's wants of Taku Balow. He's a competity,

1353
01:07:19,467 --> 01:07:22,827
Speaker 3: works so hard off the ball is inside running, He's

1354
01:07:22,907 --> 01:07:27,227
Speaker 3: graded his craft looks Scridhends and you know he's been

1355
01:07:27,267 --> 01:07:31,307
Speaker 3: working with you know him from Afar all the half

1356
01:07:31,347 --> 01:07:34,187
Speaker 3: back to around New Zealand and like he's really really

1357
01:07:34,227 --> 01:07:38,507
Speaker 3: impressed in that combination with d mac as important. Look,

1358
01:07:38,547 --> 01:07:41,507
Speaker 3: I think he and Arra is playing some ford at

1359
01:07:41,547 --> 01:07:43,507
Speaker 3: the moment. Come back off an injury like that at

1360
01:07:43,507 --> 01:07:47,507
Speaker 3: that highest level, just put some perspective what an athlete

1361
01:07:47,547 --> 01:07:50,187
Speaker 3: and the person he is. So look, we've got some

1362
01:07:50,267 --> 01:07:53,667
Speaker 3: choices to make there and we'll see a Tuesday with

1363
01:07:53,707 --> 01:07:54,987
Speaker 3: a it's the selection.

1364
01:07:55,067 --> 01:07:58,747
Speaker 5: Pete good man, Pete, thanks for your question. Let's move on, David.

1365
01:07:58,787 --> 01:07:59,987
Speaker 5: You've got a question for the raiser.

1366
01:08:00,907 --> 01:08:02,787
Speaker 9: Yeah, what's happened to the drop kick?

1367
01:08:04,787 --> 01:08:06,747
Speaker 5: What has happened to the drop kick? David wants to

1368
01:08:06,747 --> 01:08:07,227
Speaker 5: know Razor.

1369
01:08:08,427 --> 01:08:14,827
Speaker 3: Jeez, good question. The drop kick? Are we going to

1370
01:08:14,867 --> 01:08:16,947
Speaker 3: practice one in the next couple of days now after

1371
01:08:16,987 --> 01:08:18,867
Speaker 3: you just mentioned that, Oh, look, there's a time and

1372
01:08:18,907 --> 01:08:20,587
Speaker 3: place for it. Obviously England have been good at anyt

1373
01:08:20,587 --> 01:08:22,027
Speaker 3: know they look they want to World Cup game off

1374
01:08:22,107 --> 01:08:23,787
Speaker 3: the back of it. You've got to have it there

1375
01:08:23,787 --> 01:08:26,307
Speaker 3: you've got, you've got to put it in your bank

1376
01:08:27,107 --> 01:08:30,507
Speaker 3: and to make sure it's three points. It's it's just

1377
01:08:30,507 --> 01:08:33,947
Speaker 3: like you do with a penalty. So look, we've won,

1378
01:08:34,107 --> 01:08:36,427
Speaker 3: we've won games on it before, so yep, it's on

1379
01:08:36,467 --> 01:08:36,787
Speaker 3: the list.

1380
01:08:36,907 --> 01:08:39,507
Speaker 5: Rest assured, David. The drop kick is there? Are tim?

1381
01:08:39,547 --> 01:08:40,547
Speaker 5: Your question for Razor?

1382
01:08:42,187 --> 01:08:46,147
Speaker 12: Hey, I'm just wondering what was the reasoning behind only

1383
01:08:46,187 --> 01:08:48,827
Speaker 12: picking three specialized locks?

1384
01:08:50,347 --> 01:08:50,547
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1385
01:08:50,587 --> 01:08:50,787
Speaker 18: Good.

1386
01:08:50,867 --> 01:08:53,947
Speaker 3: I look with the squad of thirty two and the

1387
01:08:54,507 --> 01:08:58,667
Speaker 3: simmer Penny female that can cover lock and just the

1388
01:08:58,747 --> 01:09:01,307
Speaker 3: injuries at that time, we felt that was our best

1389
01:09:01,347 --> 01:09:04,107
Speaker 3: mix because we can bring an injury. Covery brought a

1390
01:09:04,147 --> 01:09:06,987
Speaker 3: young guy and like I, saim down. So it gave

1391
01:09:06,987 --> 01:09:09,707
Speaker 3: ourself fourth and that that was the reason behind it.

1392
01:09:10,067 --> 01:09:12,707
Speaker 3: And also we've got some quality loose forwards as well,

1393
01:09:13,347 --> 01:09:15,227
Speaker 3: so we've got the next one coming through and some

1394
01:09:15,627 --> 01:09:17,587
Speaker 3: three experienced second roules.

1395
01:09:18,027 --> 01:09:21,187
Speaker 5: Let's go to uh, Tony, what's your question.

1396
01:09:21,027 --> 01:09:24,627
Speaker 11: Tony Scott?

1397
01:09:25,067 --> 01:09:27,067
Speaker 23: What do you say to your team when they don't

1398
01:09:27,067 --> 01:09:28,027
Speaker 23: follow instructions?

1399
01:09:30,787 --> 01:09:32,827
Speaker 3: Who are you talking about here? Is this is siding

1400
01:09:32,827 --> 01:09:39,907
Speaker 3: someone else in the households.

1401
01:09:36,787 --> 01:09:37,667
Speaker 21: Or maybe the or Blacks?

1402
01:09:37,747 --> 01:09:42,787
Speaker 3: Yeh okay, we have to repect obviously if if if

1403
01:09:42,787 --> 01:09:45,867
Speaker 3: you have, if they're not, they're not delivering, it's either

1404
01:09:45,907 --> 01:09:47,667
Speaker 3: you you look at yourself first. I think it's the first.

1405
01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:51,387
Speaker 3: But how A you're delivering the message, why isn't it

1406
01:09:51,427 --> 01:09:57,067
Speaker 3: getting across? And then probably the big thing is check

1407
01:09:57,107 --> 01:10:02,027
Speaker 3: for clarity and understanding and if it doesn't, still keep working.

1408
01:10:02,067 --> 01:10:03,427
Speaker 3: Just give them an opportunity somewhere else.

1409
01:10:04,147 --> 01:10:06,627
Speaker 5: Thanks for call Tony. Let's go to to mar What

1410
01:10:06,667 --> 01:10:07,787
Speaker 5: have you got as a question mark?

1411
01:10:08,667 --> 01:10:12,827
Speaker 24: Good afternoon, our first all, congratulations Raiser on your appointment,

1412
01:10:12,907 --> 01:10:18,947
Speaker 24: and congratulations for picking TJ. Jason's already asked one of

1413
01:10:18,947 --> 01:10:21,267
Speaker 24: the questions for me, I'm I'm a blue supporter.

1414
01:10:23,507 --> 01:10:25,867
Speaker 20: What does Toskin really have to do to get in?

1415
01:10:25,947 --> 01:10:27,387
Speaker 12: And the other one in a lesson note?

1416
01:10:27,427 --> 01:10:30,427
Speaker 20: Maybe is Rick Telly?

1417
01:10:31,467 --> 01:10:33,507
Speaker 5: All right? Hoskins are two doo and Ricky Rickattelly both

1418
01:10:33,547 --> 01:10:35,507
Speaker 5: must the cut this time? Do they? Are they in

1419
01:10:35,547 --> 01:10:36,187
Speaker 5: the picture? Still?

1420
01:10:36,547 --> 01:10:36,867
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1421
01:10:36,867 --> 01:10:38,827
Speaker 3: Look Costins, you know I had the conversation. I talked

1422
01:10:38,867 --> 01:10:41,027
Speaker 3: them through the year and I showed him what was required,

1423
01:10:41,107 --> 01:10:46,147
Speaker 3: so you know, neould talk about individual conversations on the radio.

1424
01:10:46,187 --> 01:10:48,587
Speaker 3: But so he knows. Of course, he's an opportunity to

1425
01:10:48,627 --> 01:10:53,787
Speaker 3: get back and I mentioned a lot before around the

1426
01:10:53,787 --> 01:10:57,787
Speaker 3: areas the what areas in Rickettelly? Yeah, look he was,

1427
01:10:57,947 --> 01:11:02,307
Speaker 3: he was in the conversation. Looked at him closely. Look

1428
01:11:02,307 --> 01:11:04,747
Speaker 3: our coutch them through twenties nine personally and which you

1429
01:11:04,747 --> 01:11:09,267
Speaker 3: we just believe these three hockeys are the beast for

1430
01:11:09,307 --> 01:11:09,907
Speaker 3: us moving forward.

1431
01:11:09,987 --> 01:11:15,627
Speaker 5: All right, And one final question on the phones another Mark, Hi, Mark, Hey.

1432
01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:16,307
Speaker 11: Final raiser.

1433
01:11:16,867 --> 01:11:20,507
Speaker 7: Yeah, just a general question, what is what does success

1434
01:11:20,547 --> 01:11:22,707
Speaker 7: gook like at the end of raisers reign as all

1435
01:11:22,707 --> 01:11:24,467
Speaker 7: black coach, Oh.

1436
01:11:24,387 --> 01:11:31,067
Speaker 3: Cured, it's a good job interview. The good question. Success

1437
01:11:31,107 --> 01:11:37,267
Speaker 3: looks like we've we've got a team that can adapt

1438
01:11:39,227 --> 01:11:42,067
Speaker 3: and when the test met in front of them. Great

1439
01:11:42,107 --> 01:11:45,707
Speaker 3: depth in their squad, so guys can come in and

1440
01:11:45,747 --> 01:11:51,827
Speaker 3: out and play different positions as we travel around the world.

1441
01:11:51,907 --> 01:11:53,547
Speaker 3: That's what succeeds looks like for us.

1442
01:11:53,907 --> 01:11:56,107
Speaker 5: Good on your Mark, Thanks for your question, Thanks for

1443
01:11:56,147 --> 01:11:57,787
Speaker 5: all your questions. I've got a couple more before we

1444
01:11:57,867 --> 01:12:00,147
Speaker 5: knock it on the head. You've got other places to

1445
01:12:00,147 --> 01:12:02,707
Speaker 5: be Raiser, keep spin and camp. I saw a photo

1446
01:12:02,707 --> 01:12:04,867
Speaker 5: of been Paul Williams and Paul Williams as well, So

1447
01:12:04,907 --> 01:12:07,027
Speaker 5: what's their strategy or or the now behind that.

1448
01:12:07,107 --> 01:12:11,067
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's important. Like they adjudicate the game,

1449
01:12:11,107 --> 01:12:13,147
Speaker 3: don't they. So you need to be connected. You understand

1450
01:12:13,147 --> 01:12:16,587
Speaker 3: what the rulings are, the interpretation because we've got laws,

1451
01:12:16,627 --> 01:12:20,907
Speaker 3: as they call it, interpretation of laws, and that sometimes

1452
01:12:20,947 --> 01:12:23,067
Speaker 3: can be frustrating for people and for us. So we're

1453
01:12:23,107 --> 01:12:25,787
Speaker 3: trying to make as clear as possible as we possibly can.

1454
01:12:26,267 --> 01:12:29,627
Speaker 3: They give us, keep us consistently updated. Look at the

1455
01:12:29,627 --> 01:12:32,467
Speaker 3: reef that we've got in front of them. What is

1456
01:12:32,467 --> 01:12:36,307
Speaker 3: his personality? How does he ref and he gets on

1457
01:12:36,347 --> 01:12:38,547
Speaker 3: field with us, you know, du Kates, we have some

1458
01:12:38,587 --> 01:12:41,467
Speaker 3: tough training, physical training, so he gets a whistle in

1459
01:12:41,507 --> 01:12:42,147
Speaker 3: his hand as well.

1460
01:12:42,747 --> 01:12:46,267
Speaker 5: How much scrutiny do you expect in this.

1461
01:12:46,267 --> 01:12:51,387
Speaker 3: Role as much as any other we'll Black.

1462
01:12:51,187 --> 01:12:56,787
Speaker 5: Coach compared compared to the scrutiny you received this Crusaders coach.

1463
01:12:56,947 --> 01:12:59,227
Speaker 5: How how elevated is.

1464
01:12:59,147 --> 01:13:05,307
Speaker 3: It obviously extremely elevated? You know, the expectation, as I'm

1465
01:13:05,627 --> 01:13:09,347
Speaker 3: mentioned before, are as high the responsibility of the role.

1466
01:13:09,787 --> 01:13:13,507
Speaker 3: It's something I've prepared myself as for the last eleven

1467
01:13:13,587 --> 01:13:18,307
Speaker 3: years as a head coach. You know, I've set myself

1468
01:13:18,347 --> 01:13:20,627
Speaker 3: up like a player. Does you know you spend trying

1469
01:13:20,627 --> 01:13:25,067
Speaker 3: to as many experience as you can. You know, from

1470
01:13:25,107 --> 01:13:30,227
Speaker 3: coaching my club side to my NBC side to super side.

1471
01:13:30,587 --> 01:13:33,827
Speaker 3: It's naturally the progression and up and all those experiences

1472
01:13:33,907 --> 01:13:35,907
Speaker 3: help you, you know, to deal with the scrutiny. The

1473
01:13:35,947 --> 01:13:39,067
Speaker 3: biggest things I know who I am, who I need

1474
01:13:39,067 --> 01:13:42,867
Speaker 3: around me, and then there's an element I'm going to

1475
01:13:42,947 --> 01:13:44,787
Speaker 3: enjoy it, but I've got I've just got to own

1476
01:13:44,827 --> 01:13:47,347
Speaker 3: it as well. Then that's the biggest thing. If it

1477
01:13:47,387 --> 01:13:48,147
Speaker 3: works or doesn't.

1478
01:13:48,907 --> 01:13:53,587
Speaker 5: Do you have a close in a circle of people outside.

1479
01:13:53,187 --> 01:13:56,307
Speaker 3: Of rugby, yep, yep. I've got two or three people

1480
01:13:56,347 --> 01:13:59,107
Speaker 3: that I talk as mentors for the rugby side of

1481
01:13:59,107 --> 01:14:01,587
Speaker 3: it and one or two on the outside of it.

1482
01:14:01,667 --> 01:14:04,667
Speaker 3: You know, what do they see? How's the messaging? How

1483
01:14:04,707 --> 01:14:09,627
Speaker 3: am I coming across to you know on field? Like

1484
01:14:09,667 --> 01:14:11,987
Speaker 3: I was talking about my own personal leadship, hoity myself

1485
01:14:12,147 --> 01:14:14,267
Speaker 3: and and also just someone to put a bit of

1486
01:14:14,307 --> 01:14:19,707
Speaker 3: perspective on life, because you know it's going to come

1487
01:14:19,987 --> 01:14:24,107
Speaker 3: in some capacity and it's always good to talk. That's

1488
01:14:24,107 --> 01:14:25,627
Speaker 3: how I work. I need to talk through it with

1489
01:14:25,747 --> 01:14:27,707
Speaker 3: somebody and it just clears.

1490
01:14:27,427 --> 01:14:31,547
Speaker 5: And head and in terms of the guidance you take.

1491
01:14:32,107 --> 01:14:34,987
Speaker 5: So there are certain people who I mean, everyone's got

1492
01:14:34,987 --> 01:14:35,827
Speaker 5: an opinion, as you know.

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01:14:36,427 --> 01:14:38,387
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a beautiful thing. I think we need that.

1494
01:14:39,147 --> 01:14:42,187
Speaker 3: You've got to embrace that. People like people you know,

1495
01:14:42,227 --> 01:14:46,467
Speaker 3: selecting rictellies and they're selecting courts right. Awesome. When you

1496
01:14:46,507 --> 01:14:48,387
Speaker 3: lose that, there's the essence of what New zero Rabi

1497
01:14:48,507 --> 01:14:51,187
Speaker 3: is about. That's the DNA, the connection that people have

1498
01:14:51,267 --> 01:14:54,907
Speaker 3: got an opinion, a connection to our beautiful black juicy

1499
01:14:55,027 --> 01:14:57,147
Speaker 3: and that and that sits us on the wall stage.

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01:14:57,307 --> 01:14:57,867
Speaker 5: You excited?

1501
01:14:58,387 --> 01:15:01,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I'm looking forward to it, like you know

1502
01:15:01,907 --> 01:15:04,987
Speaker 3: that the motions go your sort of I'm really big

1503
01:15:05,027 --> 01:15:07,987
Speaker 3: focused on getting the weak right so I can enjoy

1504
01:15:08,067 --> 01:15:10,467
Speaker 3: that so we can appear someone. A lot of my

1505
01:15:10,747 --> 01:15:13,187
Speaker 3: focus goes on to the preparation, not so much the outcome,

1506
01:15:13,187 --> 01:15:16,787
Speaker 3: and that's cloche cliche. And once I get the process right,

1507
01:15:16,827 --> 01:15:17,907
Speaker 3: I can enjoy them much more.

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01:15:17,947 --> 01:15:18,267
Speaker 12: All right.

1509
01:15:18,347 --> 01:15:21,707
Speaker 5: Just to finish this facility, Yeah, how cool.

1510
01:15:21,467 --> 01:15:28,827
Speaker 3: Ain't Yeah? Look, Kevin and Malcolm who who had the

1511
01:15:28,907 --> 01:15:31,147
Speaker 3: vision to bring this alive. That's pretty incredible. A lot

1512
01:15:31,147 --> 01:15:33,787
Speaker 3: of people have visions and putting into action and it's

1513
01:15:33,827 --> 01:15:36,507
Speaker 3: still grow. You know, the Hut's thriving out here. It's

1514
01:15:36,547 --> 01:15:39,747
Speaker 3: been much time before out here, but it's at works.

1515
01:15:39,787 --> 01:15:42,707
Speaker 3: You know, it's two minutes to everywhere. It feels like home.

1516
01:15:44,947 --> 01:15:50,547
Speaker 3: The food, you know, the bedrooms, the green room. And

1517
01:15:50,627 --> 01:15:52,907
Speaker 3: guess what it was the greatest date everyan Wellington this

1518
01:15:52,947 --> 01:15:56,107
Speaker 3: morning it was barmi. It was like twenty degrees and

1519
01:15:56,107 --> 01:15:58,587
Speaker 3: then it rained as we're walking off the fields, so

1520
01:15:58,627 --> 01:15:59,307
Speaker 3: perfect time.

1521
01:15:59,547 --> 01:16:03,067
Speaker 5: All right, missus for the fans. Finally, missus for the fans.

1522
01:16:03,187 --> 01:16:06,867
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, I'll catch phrase for every thing is to give.

1523
01:16:06,907 --> 01:16:09,107
Speaker 3: We walk and we want to do this together. We

1524
01:16:09,147 --> 01:16:13,067
Speaker 3: want to bring everyone together in just like the opportunity

1525
01:16:13,107 --> 01:16:18,427
Speaker 3: people walked towards it embraced the challenges ahead. This will

1526
01:16:18,427 --> 01:16:20,467
Speaker 3: were anti sisted and that's what we'll do and we'll

1527
01:16:20,507 --> 01:16:20,667
Speaker 3: go and.

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01:16:20,667 --> 01:16:21,227
Speaker 18: Have some fun.

1529
01:16:21,427 --> 01:16:25,867
Speaker 5: Fantastic Rosa, thanks for taking the time. It's been entertaining, instructional, educational,

1530
01:16:25,907 --> 01:16:27,187
Speaker 5: and I know you've got somewhere else to be. Thanks

1531
01:16:27,227 --> 01:16:29,347
Speaker 5: for taking the time to join us this afternoon, Chez Briney,

1532
01:16:29,347 --> 01:16:31,627
Speaker 5: thanks you for Scott Robinson, all Black's coach here on

1533
01:16:31,667 --> 01:16:33,587
Speaker 5: news talks. He'd be one forty five back after.

1534
01:16:33,427 --> 01:16:37,507
Speaker 1: This foot Your question to the coach Old ex coach

1535
01:16:37,787 --> 01:16:41,987
Speaker 1: God Robertson is taking your calls on eight eighty Weekends

1536
01:16:41,987 --> 01:16:45,627
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Fine and it's g J Gun the Homes,

1537
01:16:45,707 --> 01:16:47,667
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1538
01:16:47,787 --> 01:16:49,547
Speaker 2: News talksa'd be news.

1539
01:16:49,427 --> 01:16:51,507
Speaker 5: Talks, they'd be. What a pleasure to have Scott Robertson

1540
01:16:51,747 --> 01:16:53,627
Speaker 5: with us here at the New Zealand Campus of Innovation

1541
01:16:53,667 --> 01:16:55,027
Speaker 5: and Sport. He's had to shoot away. They've got a

1542
01:16:55,027 --> 01:16:57,227
Speaker 5: meeting at too, But thank you for all your calls

1543
01:16:57,227 --> 01:17:00,827
Speaker 5: and correspondence. We really enjoyed receiving all your messages. Are

1544
01:17:00,827 --> 01:17:02,787
Speaker 5: passed on some of the some of the ones that

1545
01:17:02,827 --> 01:17:05,147
Speaker 5: we're in suitable for on here to Razor as well.

1546
01:17:05,267 --> 01:17:08,027
Speaker 5: Fantastic during the week. The All Blacks of course assembled

1547
01:17:08,027 --> 01:17:09,507
Speaker 5: here on Wings Day. When they did, I had the

1548
01:17:09,587 --> 01:17:11,987
Speaker 5: chance to catch up with All Blacks open side flank

1549
01:17:12,027 --> 01:17:16,867
Speaker 5: at Dalton Papaali Wee Sport Hell with the celebrations the

1550
01:17:16,907 --> 01:17:17,307
Speaker 5: other night.

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01:17:17,467 --> 01:17:18,347
Speaker 19: Ah, yeah, pretty good.

1552
01:17:18,427 --> 01:17:21,587
Speaker 4: But it's pretty good. You know, it's a long time coming,

1553
01:17:21,627 --> 01:17:23,147
Speaker 4: so I think the boys went for it.

1554
01:17:23,227 --> 01:17:24,467
Speaker 19: And uh, there's going.

1555
01:17:24,467 --> 01:17:26,507
Speaker 4: To be still some boys that are pretty feeling it

1556
01:17:26,547 --> 01:17:29,107
Speaker 4: at the moment. But yeah, new campaign, but a lot

1557
01:17:29,147 --> 01:17:31,427
Speaker 4: of the boys, you know, have other other you know,

1558
01:17:31,587 --> 01:17:33,827
Speaker 4: campaigns are going into the multi All Blacks boys went

1559
01:17:33,907 --> 01:17:35,867
Speaker 4: in a bit earlier than I say. We knew we

1560
01:17:35,867 --> 01:17:37,307
Speaker 4: were coming here, so so.

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01:17:37,227 --> 01:17:39,747
Speaker 19: We had to go pretty pretty hard, pretty fast.

1562
01:17:39,747 --> 01:17:42,627
Speaker 4: But boys really enjoyed it and enjoyed a great season

1563
01:17:42,667 --> 01:17:45,667
Speaker 4: that to celebrate that trophy once.

1564
01:17:45,747 --> 01:17:47,747
Speaker 5: Yeah, they must. I want to talk about the All Blacks,

1565
01:17:47,747 --> 01:17:49,947
Speaker 5: but there must be some deep satisfaction with what the

1566
01:17:49,987 --> 01:17:50,707
Speaker 5: Blues achieved.

1567
01:17:50,947 --> 01:17:52,347
Speaker 19: Is there one hundred percent?

1568
01:17:52,467 --> 01:17:54,347
Speaker 4: You know, I think I've been in the team for

1569
01:17:54,347 --> 01:17:56,867
Speaker 4: a long time and like eight years now, and you know,

1570
01:17:56,907 --> 01:17:59,147
Speaker 4: the first couple of years we, let's be honest, we

1571
01:17:59,227 --> 01:18:02,587
Speaker 4: sucked and we got we got hit pretty hard with

1572
01:18:02,747 --> 01:18:04,867
Speaker 4: games and stuff, and that we lost. And then we

1573
01:18:04,867 --> 01:18:07,947
Speaker 4: started to grow with Regia Lil McDonald under the helm

1574
01:18:08,467 --> 01:18:11,067
Speaker 4: and he you know, was there sort of there. And

1575
01:18:11,307 --> 01:18:13,467
Speaker 4: there was a few game a few finals that playoff

1576
01:18:13,467 --> 01:18:14,347
Speaker 4: games we did lose.

1577
01:18:14,387 --> 01:18:16,507
Speaker 19: And I think with Vern coming in, you.

1578
01:18:16,427 --> 01:18:18,587
Speaker 4: Know, I think he already had the platform from that

1579
01:18:18,747 --> 01:18:21,987
Speaker 4: was already made from Leon and we.

1580
01:18:21,787 --> 01:18:23,987
Speaker 19: We finally did it. So weight off the shoulders.

1581
01:18:23,987 --> 01:18:24,467
Speaker 6: It was more.

1582
01:18:25,347 --> 01:18:27,067
Speaker 4: It was good celebrating, but it was more, you know,

1583
01:18:27,107 --> 01:18:29,827
Speaker 4: sometimes I sort of sat back and I was just

1584
01:18:29,827 --> 01:18:32,187
Speaker 4: soaking it all in that you know, we finally did it.

1585
01:18:32,347 --> 01:18:34,827
Speaker 5: I love that. All right, So you transition from super

1586
01:18:34,907 --> 01:18:37,227
Speaker 5: rugby to all Blacks, right, Bat, You've done that transition

1587
01:18:37,267 --> 01:18:40,427
Speaker 5: a few times. What are the main challenges around transitioning

1588
01:18:40,427 --> 01:18:41,907
Speaker 5: from blues to all blacks.

1589
01:18:42,307 --> 01:18:44,507
Speaker 4: I think it's just fully getting into a new game plan,

1590
01:18:44,947 --> 01:18:47,747
Speaker 4: and especially this year and with the new coaching and

1591
01:18:47,787 --> 01:18:50,307
Speaker 4: the new coaching staff that want to sort.

1592
01:18:50,187 --> 01:18:52,547
Speaker 19: Of implement their style and their game plan.

1593
01:18:52,627 --> 01:18:55,267
Speaker 4: Because you know, the coaches we've had before, I've always

1594
01:18:55,307 --> 01:18:57,347
Speaker 4: sort of been in the in the system and you know,

1595
01:18:57,387 --> 01:18:59,947
Speaker 4: assistant coaches and and all that, so we sort of

1596
01:19:00,027 --> 01:19:02,707
Speaker 4: knew what the what the game plan, what the base

1597
01:19:02,747 --> 01:19:04,907
Speaker 4: and the platform was it was like. But with a

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01:19:04,987 --> 01:19:08,547
Speaker 4: new coaching staff, completely new complete new coaching.

1599
01:19:08,267 --> 01:19:11,427
Speaker 19: Staff, it's going to be very different. So it's right now.

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01:19:11,427 --> 01:19:12,867
Speaker 19: I think, you know, the next couple of day is.

1601
01:19:12,827 --> 01:19:15,227
Speaker 4: Going to be more about clarity and especially the boys

1602
01:19:15,507 --> 01:19:18,347
Speaker 4: finalist boys coming in here and get to know the

1603
01:19:18,387 --> 01:19:20,787
Speaker 4: game plan, because I'm pretty sure that most of the

1604
01:19:20,827 --> 01:19:24,627
Speaker 4: boys who weren't in the finals had another camp, So

1605
01:19:24,747 --> 01:19:26,027
Speaker 4: I think that we've just got got a lot of

1606
01:19:26,067 --> 01:19:27,707
Speaker 4: learning to do, but looking forward to it.

1607
01:19:27,747 --> 01:19:29,587
Speaker 5: Do you feel like you've got a decent crack at

1608
01:19:29,587 --> 01:19:30,587
Speaker 5: this number seven jersey?

1609
01:19:31,707 --> 01:19:34,547
Speaker 19: Yeah? You know every year. That's my mindset.

1610
01:19:34,587 --> 01:19:37,627
Speaker 4: You know, you never own the jersey and I've had

1611
01:19:37,627 --> 01:19:38,307
Speaker 4: a few years.

1612
01:19:38,147 --> 01:19:40,307
Speaker 19: In the Jersey now where you know, one week I

1613
01:19:40,347 --> 01:19:41,147
Speaker 19: have it the week and the.

1614
01:19:41,107 --> 01:19:43,347
Speaker 4: Next week I'd own. So I never take it for granted.

1615
01:19:43,387 --> 01:19:45,427
Speaker 4: But the cool thing is that when you come to

1616
01:19:45,467 --> 01:19:46,987
Speaker 4: this environment, you get the best out of all the

1617
01:19:47,067 --> 01:19:49,627
Speaker 4: lucy's because you know, it's a tough competition, you know,

1618
01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:52,547
Speaker 4: out there. So I'm looking forward to it and it's

1619
01:19:52,547 --> 01:19:53,787
Speaker 4: always a decent crack and I'm.

1620
01:19:53,627 --> 01:19:54,187
Speaker 19: Looking forward to it.

1621
01:19:54,267 --> 01:19:56,507
Speaker 5: Yeah, you touched on a raal area of strength and

1622
01:19:56,507 --> 01:19:58,227
Speaker 5: New Zealand rugby. You look at the guys who haven't

1623
01:19:58,227 --> 01:20:00,107
Speaker 5: made the squad for example, and there's some bloody good

1624
01:20:00,107 --> 01:20:02,427
Speaker 5: loose forwards there. So Addie Wass saised the strength of

1625
01:20:02,947 --> 01:20:05,427
Speaker 5: six seven and eight at the moment in New Zealand rugby.

1626
01:20:05,747 --> 01:20:09,347
Speaker 4: That's probably what of our strongest strongest positions. You look through,

1627
01:20:09,387 --> 01:20:11,667
Speaker 4: like you said yourself, you look through the super rugby

1628
01:20:11,707 --> 01:20:14,187
Speaker 4: and how how much talent is coming through that? You know,

1629
01:20:14,187 --> 01:20:16,587
Speaker 4: the six seven and eight it keeps you on your toes.

1630
01:20:16,627 --> 01:20:17,107
Speaker 19: That's a good thing.

1631
01:20:17,147 --> 01:20:18,987
Speaker 4: And I remember when I was a young fella coming

1632
01:20:18,987 --> 01:20:20,587
Speaker 4: and I you know, I was doing the same with

1633
01:20:20,627 --> 01:20:22,187
Speaker 4: the the young fellow's doing to me.

1634
01:20:22,307 --> 01:20:24,147
Speaker 19: So that's a cool thing.

1635
01:20:24,267 --> 01:20:27,667
Speaker 4: You know. The best for you to play your best

1636
01:20:27,747 --> 01:20:29,747
Speaker 4: is you know, you have good competition within the team.

1637
01:20:29,587 --> 01:20:30,747
Speaker 19: And there's no love loss.

1638
01:20:30,747 --> 01:20:32,027
Speaker 4: We all want to get better and at the end

1639
01:20:32,067 --> 01:20:33,787
Speaker 4: of the day, we're all part of the same team.

1640
01:20:33,827 --> 01:20:35,507
Speaker 4: And my goal at the end of the day is

1641
01:20:35,787 --> 01:20:37,827
Speaker 4: to win. And I want to win, you know, I

1642
01:20:37,827 --> 01:20:39,747
Speaker 4: want to dominate teams. I want to win on the

1643
01:20:39,827 --> 01:20:42,747
Speaker 4: highest level in the and the biggest stadiums. And for

1644
01:20:42,827 --> 01:20:44,227
Speaker 4: me to do that is like I said, you know,

1645
01:20:44,307 --> 01:20:46,507
Speaker 4: it's a competition within the team, and you know, I

1646
01:20:46,507 --> 01:20:48,627
Speaker 4: think we've got a lot of talent, and especially the

1647
01:20:48,667 --> 01:20:51,307
Speaker 4: boys who didn't make it the Lucy's, they're going to

1648
01:20:51,347 --> 01:20:53,387
Speaker 4: be knocking on the door straightaway.

1649
01:20:53,387 --> 01:20:56,027
Speaker 5: So yeah, And in that regard in terms of all

1650
01:20:56,107 --> 01:20:58,227
Speaker 5: wanting the same thing, how do you welcome and support

1651
01:20:58,227 --> 01:21:00,707
Speaker 5: a new guy like Wallace Atisi this is all new

1652
01:21:00,707 --> 01:21:02,267
Speaker 5: to him, right he turns up this morning, gets all

1653
01:21:02,267 --> 01:21:04,027
Speaker 5: his new gear, you know, I mean, how do you

1654
01:21:04,107 --> 01:21:05,787
Speaker 5: how do you make sure that he's okay.

1655
01:21:06,347 --> 01:21:08,067
Speaker 19: It's got to have a little conversations with him, you know.

1656
01:21:08,107 --> 01:21:11,827
Speaker 4: And he's an awesome player, and he's he's shoonned this here. Man,

1657
01:21:11,827 --> 01:21:14,227
Speaker 4: he really did. He really put his name up forward

1658
01:21:14,267 --> 01:21:16,267
Speaker 4: and he got there. Got the fruits now. But you

1659
01:21:16,267 --> 01:21:17,867
Speaker 4: can say it's the fruits, but you're coming to this

1660
01:21:17,987 --> 01:21:20,427
Speaker 4: environment and the fruits is being on the field and

1661
01:21:20,467 --> 01:21:23,107
Speaker 4: doing that, doing the damage. So man, So it's a

1662
01:21:23,107 --> 01:21:25,227
Speaker 4: little conversations and you're putting her arm around him, and

1663
01:21:25,507 --> 01:21:27,387
Speaker 4: it's not more of the on field, it's it's the

1664
01:21:27,387 --> 01:21:29,147
Speaker 4: stuff off the field, you know, connecting.

1665
01:21:29,267 --> 01:21:30,747
Speaker 19: I'm going and get a coffee and stuff like that.

1666
01:21:30,787 --> 01:21:33,067
Speaker 4: But the cool thing with this team is that when

1667
01:21:33,067 --> 01:21:33,707
Speaker 4: I was coming in.

1668
01:21:33,667 --> 01:21:35,747
Speaker 19: As well, all the older guys did that.

1669
01:21:35,867 --> 01:21:38,467
Speaker 4: So it's sort of as sick of nature to walk

1670
01:21:38,507 --> 01:21:40,107
Speaker 4: at in the New Boys because you know how speechal

1671
01:21:40,147 --> 01:21:40,427
Speaker 4: that is.

1672
01:21:40,987 --> 01:21:42,547
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's how it's going to happen.

1673
01:21:42,947 --> 01:21:45,387
Speaker 5: That is dott and Papalalti, who was here along with

1674
01:21:45,427 --> 01:21:48,227
Speaker 5: the other members, all of them and some extras as well.

1675
01:21:48,507 --> 01:21:51,147
Speaker 5: On Weensday, the thirty two man squad assembling for the

1676
01:21:51,147 --> 01:21:54,307
Speaker 5: first time with their training partners too. Close to forty

1677
01:21:54,347 --> 01:21:56,707
Speaker 5: players actually, plus all the management and stuff. Had a

1678
01:21:56,747 --> 01:21:59,947
Speaker 5: wonderful welcome here at the New Zealand Campus of Innovation

1679
01:22:00,027 --> 01:22:03,147
Speaker 5: and Sport on Wednesday and have been using the facilities

1680
01:22:03,867 --> 01:22:06,987
Speaker 5: and what facilities they are. Just on that after two

1681
01:22:06,987 --> 01:22:10,947
Speaker 5: o'clock we'll find out more about this incredible world class facility.

1682
01:22:11,227 --> 01:22:14,627
Speaker 5: When General manager of nted cis Jamie Taut joins us

1683
01:22:14,667 --> 01:22:16,187
Speaker 5: seven away from two news talks, heab.

1684
01:22:17,467 --> 01:22:20,507
Speaker 1: Getting the behind the scenes intel live from the first

1685
01:22:20,547 --> 01:22:22,587
Speaker 1: All Blacks camp of twenty twenty four.

1686
01:22:22,827 --> 01:22:26,347
Speaker 2: It's weekend Sport with Jason Fine and GJ.

1687
01:22:26,587 --> 01:22:29,867
Speaker 1: Gunn the homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News

1688
01:22:29,907 --> 01:22:32,787
Speaker 1: Talks EDB just on four to so after our news

1689
01:22:32,787 --> 01:22:34,867
Speaker 1: at too, general Manager of the New Zealand Campus of

1690
01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:36,867
Speaker 1: Innovation and Sport, Jamie Taut, joins us.

1691
01:22:37,227 --> 01:22:40,187
Speaker 5: I'm actually in his office, so I'm actually probably in

1692
01:22:40,227 --> 01:22:42,947
Speaker 5: his chair, but we'll have a chat about the facility

1693
01:22:43,147 --> 01:22:45,307
Speaker 5: and the All Blacks use of it. We'll also head

1694
01:22:45,347 --> 01:22:48,547
Speaker 5: to the Tour de France which starts tonight. Anthony mccross

1695
01:22:48,587 --> 01:22:51,747
Speaker 5: and Tour de France commentator is with us. Your cause

1696
01:22:51,787 --> 01:22:54,787
Speaker 5: and correspondence continue to be welcome We're back after two

1697
01:22:54,947 --> 01:22:55,867
Speaker 5: on News Talk's EDB.

1698
01:22:56,307 --> 01:22:59,027
Speaker 1: Live from the first Ball Blacks camp of twenty twenty

1699
01:22:59,027 --> 01:23:03,387
Speaker 1: four is weekend FOT with Jason Hine and GJ.

1700
01:23:03,547 --> 01:23:03,867
Speaker 2: Gunn.

1701
01:23:03,867 --> 01:23:07,307
Speaker 1: The homes New Zealand's most trusted home Bill You Talk,

1702
01:23:07,427 --> 01:23:09,587
Speaker 1: Sevvy News Talk to me.

1703
01:23:09,667 --> 01:23:11,347
Speaker 5: Welcome back in or welcome in, as the case may be.

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01:23:11,427 --> 01:23:13,107
Speaker 5: I certainly hope you didn't miss the last hour though,

1705
01:23:13,147 --> 01:23:16,467
Speaker 5: a terrific chat with Scott Robertson again, just our thanks

1706
01:23:16,507 --> 01:23:19,667
Speaker 5: to All Blacks management for making that possible in a

1707
01:23:19,827 --> 01:23:22,027
Speaker 5: very tight build up. Even though you know you might

1708
01:23:22,067 --> 01:23:24,707
Speaker 5: think ten days is a long time to get ready

1709
01:23:24,707 --> 01:23:26,907
Speaker 5: for a Test match, it isn't really so to even

1710
01:23:26,907 --> 01:23:29,547
Speaker 5: dedicate an hour to us and to you our listeners

1711
01:23:29,707 --> 01:23:32,147
Speaker 5: was greatly appreciated and we hope to do it again

1712
01:23:32,747 --> 01:23:36,547
Speaker 5: regularly across this year and across Scott Robertson's tenure. More

1713
01:23:36,587 --> 01:23:38,867
Speaker 5: from the All Blacks camp at the New Zealand Campus

1714
01:23:38,867 --> 01:23:41,227
Speaker 5: of Innovation in Sport to come, and a chat to

1715
01:23:41,267 --> 01:23:42,827
Speaker 5: a couple of other players this week we'll try and

1716
01:23:42,867 --> 01:23:46,267
Speaker 5: squeeze those in. General manager of this facility, Jamie Taut

1717
01:23:46,387 --> 01:23:49,707
Speaker 5: is standing by the chat to us about the facility itself,

1718
01:23:49,707 --> 01:23:51,867
Speaker 5: but also the all Blacks connection with it, and some

1719
01:23:51,947 --> 01:23:55,787
Speaker 5: other wider issues as well about these sorts of facilities

1720
01:23:55,827 --> 01:23:59,147
Speaker 5: and how they can be financed and how sport itself

1721
01:23:59,467 --> 01:24:02,747
Speaker 5: can be financed. We're also across at the Tour de

1722
01:24:02,787 --> 01:24:05,547
Speaker 5: France starting in Italy this year for the first time

1723
01:24:06,427 --> 01:24:10,107
Speaker 5: to a commentator. Anthony mccrossen is going to join us

1724
01:24:10,307 --> 01:24:12,147
Speaker 5: this hour as well to run an eye over what

1725
01:24:12,307 --> 01:24:15,907
Speaker 5: looks like a two man race with Tade Pagacha and

1726
01:24:16,107 --> 01:24:18,347
Speaker 5: Youoni's finger Guard going head to head. They've won the

1727
01:24:18,427 --> 01:24:21,467
Speaker 5: last four between them. But are there other writers who

1728
01:24:21,467 --> 01:24:24,227
Speaker 5: perhaps might have something to say about that you're causing

1729
01:24:24,307 --> 01:24:27,787
Speaker 5: Correspondents always welcome, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1730
01:24:27,827 --> 01:24:30,027
Speaker 5: gets you throw on the phone nine two ninety two

1731
01:24:30,187 --> 01:24:33,147
Speaker 5: if you would prefer to correspond by text, But with

1732
01:24:33,187 --> 01:24:35,307
Speaker 5: the time at eight past two, as we always do

1733
01:24:35,547 --> 01:24:39,187
Speaker 5: at around about this time on weekend sport, it's time

1734
01:24:39,227 --> 01:24:40,667
Speaker 5: to get you up to date with some of the

1735
01:24:40,667 --> 01:24:43,107
Speaker 5: stuff that might have escaped your attention. We call it

1736
01:24:43,147 --> 01:24:44,707
Speaker 5: in case you missed it, and we start in the

1737
01:24:44,787 --> 01:24:49,027
Speaker 5: National Basketball League. The Canterbury Rams have extended they're winning

1738
01:24:49,067 --> 01:24:53,227
Speaker 5: streak to fourteen games, beating the Talleranaky Airs one eleven

1739
01:24:53,307 --> 01:24:55,147
Speaker 5: eighty three in New Plymouth last night.

1740
01:24:55,507 --> 01:25:00,427
Speaker 16: Darling, well, it's a brown ball movement supreme Kile Isaac.

1741
01:25:01,147 --> 01:25:03,507
Speaker 11: That is basketball at its finest.

1742
01:25:03,947 --> 01:25:05,987
Speaker 5: They are running hot the Canterbury Rams at the moment

1743
01:25:06,027 --> 01:25:09,667
Speaker 5: Max Stappan has edged Outlando Norris to claim pole for

1744
01:25:09,707 --> 01:25:12,667
Speaker 5: the sprint race at Formula one's Austrian Grand Prix.

1745
01:25:13,547 --> 01:25:16,307
Speaker 25: But what about Max fast Stafford? Can he do it again?

1746
01:25:16,787 --> 01:25:17,027
Speaker 6: Yes?

1747
01:25:17,107 --> 01:25:20,787
Speaker 25: He jibed less for the second, but it's Max fast

1748
01:25:20,787 --> 01:25:23,747
Speaker 25: Stafford who goes to the top of the times A

1749
01:25:23,907 --> 01:25:26,947
Speaker 25: plisurely takes pavel for the spreads.

1750
01:25:27,187 --> 01:25:30,267
Speaker 5: To the AFL. At close contest last night between Brisbane

1751
01:25:30,307 --> 01:25:33,227
Speaker 5: and Melbourne at the iconic Gabber.

1752
01:25:33,507 --> 01:25:43,467
Speaker 16: McCluggage has kicked the most important store. That's ridiculous. I

1753
01:25:43,547 --> 01:25:44,507
Speaker 16: reckon they've done enough.

1754
01:25:45,707 --> 01:25:51,267
Speaker 2: So Brisbane have come from nowhere to fit staff there.

1755
01:25:51,347 --> 01:25:53,427
Speaker 5: Terrific contest last night and staying on that side of

1756
01:25:53,467 --> 01:25:57,267
Speaker 5: the Tasman Golden point drama in the NRL, A Matt

1757
01:25:57,427 --> 01:26:01,307
Speaker 5: Burton field goal sealing the Bulldogs a fifteen to fourteen

1758
01:26:01,427 --> 01:26:03,427
Speaker 5: victory over the Sharks in Sydney.

1759
01:26:04,147 --> 01:26:06,347
Speaker 19: He looks kicked Sey.

1760
01:26:08,067 --> 01:26:09,067
Speaker 6: Go through.

1761
01:26:11,827 --> 01:26:15,147
Speaker 2: Hey Thaks Monday for the web.

1762
01:26:17,507 --> 01:26:19,267
Speaker 5: And that is in case you missed it. For today

1763
01:26:19,387 --> 01:26:21,867
Speaker 5: just on ten past two, News Talks EDBAT.

1764
01:26:23,507 --> 01:26:26,187
Speaker 1: Live from the first All Blacks camp of twenty twenty

1765
01:26:26,187 --> 01:26:30,267
Speaker 1: four on your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason

1766
01:26:30,347 --> 01:26:35,027
Speaker 1: Fine and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1767
01:26:35,147 --> 01:26:36,107
Speaker 2: News Talks EDB.

1768
01:26:36,747 --> 01:26:39,387
Speaker 5: Coming to your life from the New Zealand Campus of

1769
01:26:39,467 --> 01:26:42,947
Speaker 5: Innovation and Sport, Wonderful Facility and Upper Heart. The All

1770
01:26:42,947 --> 01:26:45,027
Speaker 5: Blacks have been using it since Wednesday. They'll be here

1771
01:26:45,067 --> 01:26:48,147
Speaker 5: till Tuesday. They fly to duneed And Tuesday night for

1772
01:26:48,187 --> 01:26:50,947
Speaker 5: the first test of the year a week tonight actually

1773
01:26:51,067 --> 01:26:53,507
Speaker 5: at Forsyth Bar Stadium and Danneedan. We'll have a full

1774
01:26:53,507 --> 01:26:56,867
Speaker 5: commentary of that game for you from just after seven

1775
01:26:56,907 --> 01:26:59,307
Speaker 5: o'clock next Saturday night, and in fact Weekend Sport will

1776
01:26:59,307 --> 01:27:03,147
Speaker 5: come to you from Dunedin next Saturday and Sunday. But

1777
01:27:03,187 --> 01:27:05,467
Speaker 5: for now we're here at the n zed CIS and

1778
01:27:05,547 --> 01:27:08,747
Speaker 5: in the office of the general Manager Jamie Taut, who

1779
01:27:08,827 --> 01:27:11,347
Speaker 5: joins us now. Thanks for giving out your office. First

1780
01:27:11,347 --> 01:27:12,787
Speaker 5: of all, Jamie, get a bit closer to that mic

1781
01:27:12,867 --> 01:27:14,587
Speaker 5: so we can all hear you. Nice to see you, mate,

1782
01:27:14,627 --> 01:27:16,227
Speaker 5: Nice to see you. Point it's not looking at a mirror.

1783
01:27:16,267 --> 01:27:17,787
Speaker 26: But both had more hair back in the day and

1784
01:27:17,827 --> 01:27:19,627
Speaker 26: pullly better eyesight, So not all good.

1785
01:27:20,027 --> 01:27:21,747
Speaker 5: Look, I think one of us is fitter than the other.

1786
01:27:21,987 --> 01:27:23,947
Speaker 5: That we all know who that might be. But for

1787
01:27:23,987 --> 01:27:26,267
Speaker 5: those who aren't familiar with the n z CIEs, a

1788
01:27:26,307 --> 01:27:30,187
Speaker 5: lot of people are because it has really turned heads everywhere.

1789
01:27:30,227 --> 01:27:33,307
Speaker 5: Can you tell us a bit about the background to

1790
01:27:33,347 --> 01:27:36,467
Speaker 5: the development of what is a world class facility.

1791
01:27:36,827 --> 01:27:39,147
Speaker 18: Yeah, I guess people in the region will previously know.

1792
01:27:39,227 --> 01:27:42,107
Speaker 26: This is the old CIT, the old Central Institute of Technology,

1793
01:27:42,467 --> 01:27:44,227
Speaker 26: and it was a thriving campus back in the day.

1794
01:27:44,467 --> 01:27:46,867
Speaker 26: Was where the local mayor, he Wane gup you in

1795
01:27:46,907 --> 01:27:49,107
Speaker 26: those guys with pharmacy and there's a lot of a

1796
01:27:49,147 --> 01:27:50,707
Speaker 26: lot of people went through this doing their sort of

1797
01:27:50,707 --> 01:27:52,067
Speaker 26: pedietary programs and things.

1798
01:27:52,507 --> 01:27:53,387
Speaker 18: It was super.

1799
01:27:53,187 --> 01:27:55,947
Speaker 26: Successful between the nineteen seventies and two thousand until it

1800
01:27:55,987 --> 01:27:59,347
Speaker 26: was shut down where three polytechs or as similar institutions

1801
01:27:59,387 --> 01:28:00,187
Speaker 26: merged into one.

1802
01:28:00,587 --> 01:28:02,307
Speaker 18: It sat dormant for sixteen.

1803
01:28:01,987 --> 01:28:05,507
Speaker 26: Years before two locals, Malcolm Gillies and Kevin Melville, had

1804
01:28:05,507 --> 01:28:08,027
Speaker 26: the brain weigh We've people called it a brain fart

1805
01:28:08,067 --> 01:28:10,347
Speaker 26: maybe at the time, but definitely a brain wavelong term

1806
01:28:10,707 --> 01:28:13,467
Speaker 26: where they've since diversified the campus to be a lot

1807
01:28:13,467 --> 01:28:16,427
Speaker 26: of things. It's got commercial real estate over twenty floors

1808
01:28:16,427 --> 01:28:19,187
Speaker 26: a commercial it's got over four hundred beds of accommodation,

1809
01:28:19,307 --> 01:28:21,867
Speaker 26: it's got food and beverage putting through over one hundred

1810
01:28:21,867 --> 01:28:24,427
Speaker 26: thousand mills a year, and it's got this beautiful new

1811
01:28:24,427 --> 01:28:26,787
Speaker 26: sports facility. So it's something that a lot of people

1812
01:28:26,787 --> 01:28:28,587
Speaker 26: around the region take a lot of pride in and yeah,

1813
01:28:28,587 --> 01:28:30,267
Speaker 26: I'm just grateful to be on the whaka.

1814
01:28:30,667 --> 01:28:35,987
Speaker 5: How does this compare to facilities in New Zealand and globally?

1815
01:28:36,907 --> 01:28:38,747
Speaker 26: Look, I can say straight up and we're not sounding

1816
01:28:38,827 --> 01:28:41,027
Speaker 26: ergant or facetious, but this is a world class facility.

1817
01:28:41,067 --> 01:28:43,267
Speaker 26: It stacks up amongst the best in the world. We

1818
01:28:43,307 --> 01:28:45,747
Speaker 26: take that from the guys like Scott Wooden and David

1819
01:28:45,787 --> 01:28:49,667
Speaker 26: Ball who have played in those other environments. We did

1820
01:28:49,707 --> 01:28:51,907
Speaker 26: a lot of work early doors with the our foundation

1821
01:28:51,987 --> 01:28:54,307
Speaker 26: membership group to make sure that we got what they wanted,

1822
01:28:54,707 --> 01:28:57,587
Speaker 26: but equally we went out to the world and luckily enough,

1823
01:28:57,627 --> 01:29:00,707
Speaker 26: had input from thirty five international teams. We had Paris,

1824
01:29:00,707 --> 01:29:04,627
Speaker 26: Saint Jermain, Man United, New York Giants, Shinki's Necks, or

1825
01:29:04,947 --> 01:29:07,787
Speaker 26: fill out a facility matrix for looking at.

1826
01:29:07,667 --> 01:29:08,947
Speaker 18: What world class look like.

1827
01:29:09,507 --> 01:29:11,507
Speaker 26: And it didn't mean that we took all those ideas

1828
01:29:11,547 --> 01:29:14,427
Speaker 26: and tried to include them. The New York Giants is

1829
01:29:14,427 --> 01:29:17,227
Speaker 26: probably one of the most beautiful facilities I've seen, but

1830
01:29:17,827 --> 01:29:20,227
Speaker 26: it's not who we are. They exercised for two seconds

1831
01:29:20,227 --> 01:29:23,547
Speaker 26: at a time. It's ninety male athletes, they're one hundred

1832
01:29:23,547 --> 01:29:26,587
Speaker 26: and fifty kilos each, and it's one sport. We're dealing

1833
01:29:26,667 --> 01:29:30,587
Speaker 26: with the female Phoenix player who's fifty five sixty five kilos.

1834
01:29:30,627 --> 01:29:33,227
Speaker 26: We've got athletes running for eighty to ninety minutes at

1835
01:29:33,267 --> 01:29:36,507
Speaker 26: a time, and we're dealing with multiple codes. So it's

1836
01:29:36,547 --> 01:29:38,627
Speaker 26: a very different facility. And some of the sports you

1837
01:29:38,667 --> 01:29:40,787
Speaker 26: thought we might not learn much from, we've learned a lot.

1838
01:29:40,827 --> 01:29:43,507
Speaker 26: Like the UFC, we learned lots about how we connect people,

1839
01:29:44,067 --> 01:29:48,147
Speaker 26: having those impromptu conversations, reducing time on feet, looking for

1840
01:29:48,187 --> 01:29:49,267
Speaker 26: those sort of efficiencies.

1841
01:29:49,747 --> 01:29:52,427
Speaker 5: What are the main features? Again, for those who aren't

1842
01:29:52,427 --> 01:29:54,827
Speaker 5: familiar with the complex, what are the main features? Tell

1843
01:29:54,907 --> 01:29:57,587
Speaker 5: us about the main facilities. For example, the all Blacks

1844
01:29:57,587 --> 01:29:59,147
Speaker 5: are taking advantage of this week.

1845
01:29:59,307 --> 01:30:02,187
Speaker 26: I think size and flexibility is probably the two biggest features.

1846
01:30:02,467 --> 01:30:06,307
Speaker 26: We've got plenty of space adeen hectare campus. We don't

1847
01:30:06,387 --> 01:30:08,907
Speaker 26: try and fill up every corner. The gym is a

1848
01:30:08,987 --> 01:30:11,067
Speaker 26: thousand square meters, but we leave plenty of free space

1849
01:30:11,067 --> 01:30:13,947
Speaker 26: for training. There's a beautiful big green room out here

1850
01:30:14,467 --> 01:30:15,227
Speaker 26: to the side of us.

1851
01:30:15,267 --> 01:30:16,747
Speaker 18: It's seventy meters by fifty.

1852
01:30:17,227 --> 01:30:19,507
Speaker 26: Having that capacity to get in get your clarity work

1853
01:30:19,507 --> 01:30:22,187
Speaker 26: done early in the week. We've spent a lot of

1854
01:30:22,427 --> 01:30:24,987
Speaker 26: time and mail and cave a lot of money putting

1855
01:30:25,027 --> 01:30:28,387
Speaker 26: in the technology backbone, which enables us to capture footage

1856
01:30:28,427 --> 01:30:31,947
Speaker 26: in real time, analyze it instantaneously, provide feedback and you

1857
01:30:31,987 --> 01:30:35,467
Speaker 26: see the athletes really benefit from a lot of self coaching.

1858
01:30:35,627 --> 01:30:37,667
Speaker 26: They can identify their own mistakes in real time up

1859
01:30:37,667 --> 01:30:40,827
Speaker 26: on the screens and they can react and adjust. Look,

1860
01:30:40,827 --> 01:30:43,027
Speaker 26: we're super proud of some world first we've achieved here.

1861
01:30:43,627 --> 01:30:46,827
Speaker 26: We've got the biggest interactive screen in the world. It's

1862
01:30:46,827 --> 01:30:48,787
Speaker 26: two and a half times bigger than anything that's been

1863
01:30:48,907 --> 01:30:51,387
Speaker 26: built before. You can play darts, you can play connect

1864
01:30:51,387 --> 01:30:54,027
Speaker 26: for everyone loves games, no matter how old you are.

1865
01:30:54,067 --> 01:30:56,907
Speaker 26: People like to play creates that sense of competition. Competition

1866
01:30:56,987 --> 01:31:00,267
Speaker 26: leads to intensity. We've got beautiful, big plunge pools. We've

1867
01:31:00,267 --> 01:31:04,107
Speaker 26: installed a three hundred kilo accessibility hoist across all the pools.

1868
01:31:04,467 --> 01:31:06,827
Speaker 26: And again something that hadn't been done to connect four

1869
01:31:06,907 --> 01:31:10,547
Speaker 26: aquatic environments and two dry end environments. We've got a

1870
01:31:10,587 --> 01:31:13,987
Speaker 26: massive altitude chamber. It's one hundred and thirty square meters.

1871
01:31:14,587 --> 01:31:16,507
Speaker 26: It means we can put forty white bikes in there

1872
01:31:16,507 --> 01:31:19,107
Speaker 26: at a time, every athlete can go for gold. We

1873
01:31:19,147 --> 01:31:20,907
Speaker 26: can get it up to three thousand meters tour to

1874
01:31:20,907 --> 01:31:23,947
Speaker 26: France starting tonight, So we can replicate those types of

1875
01:31:23,947 --> 01:31:27,187
Speaker 26: conditions to the athletes to benefit from. And probably the

1876
01:31:27,787 --> 01:31:30,667
Speaker 26: other single point of difference is having the accommodation on site.

1877
01:31:30,747 --> 01:31:33,507
Speaker 26: And it just leads to a whole bunch less stress

1878
01:31:33,587 --> 01:31:34,387
Speaker 26: during your day.

1879
01:31:34,227 --> 01:31:35,067
Speaker 18: For the athlete.

1880
01:31:35,387 --> 01:31:37,307
Speaker 26: They can get up, they can walk to their first session,

1881
01:31:37,307 --> 01:31:39,347
Speaker 26: they can recover here, they can walk back. It's just

1882
01:31:39,387 --> 01:31:41,787
Speaker 26: missing out on all that time on feet or time

1883
01:31:41,827 --> 01:31:42,427
Speaker 26: on buses.

1884
01:31:42,827 --> 01:31:45,347
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think yeah, Raza even made that point.

1885
01:31:45,427 --> 01:31:48,427
Speaker 5: You know, to go from one place to another doesn't

1886
01:31:48,467 --> 01:31:50,467
Speaker 5: take a bus, It just takes a two minute walk.

1887
01:31:50,787 --> 01:31:52,907
Speaker 5: Two of your tenants of the Hurricanes and the Phoenix.

1888
01:31:52,947 --> 01:31:54,827
Speaker 5: If we just look at the men's teams just for

1889
01:31:56,267 --> 01:32:00,267
Speaker 5: this question, Hurricanes made the semi finals, Phoenix made the

1890
01:32:00,307 --> 01:32:04,507
Speaker 5: semi finals. Are you able to in any way assess

1891
01:32:05,147 --> 01:32:07,907
Speaker 5: how important being here was to their success?

1892
01:32:08,587 --> 01:32:11,507
Speaker 26: I think both teams probably took a good twelve months

1893
01:32:11,547 --> 01:32:13,507
Speaker 26: to work out how you live in your house. It's

1894
01:32:13,507 --> 01:32:15,067
Speaker 26: sort of like when you move in, you sort of

1895
01:32:15,307 --> 01:32:17,547
Speaker 26: work out where the powerpoints are and how you use

1896
01:32:17,587 --> 01:32:19,987
Speaker 26: each room, where you want your furniture, and to a

1897
01:32:20,067 --> 01:32:22,027
Speaker 26: lesser degree, that's what I think we saw with the

1898
01:32:22,107 --> 01:32:25,427
Speaker 26: Hurricanes and the Phoenix. But to use Mike Cron's analogy,

1899
01:32:25,627 --> 01:32:27,707
Speaker 26: Krona always talked about having cattle on your farm being

1900
01:32:27,707 --> 01:32:30,107
Speaker 26: the athletes having the right cattle. Well, I think we've

1901
01:32:30,187 --> 01:32:33,107
Speaker 26: now got an awesome farm. You've got Chief and Clark

1902
01:32:33,707 --> 01:32:36,867
Speaker 26: just great farmers and all their support staff, and then

1903
01:32:36,987 --> 01:32:38,827
Speaker 26: their cattle on the farm being the athletes. But to

1904
01:32:38,867 --> 01:32:40,947
Speaker 26: look at it another way, you could say that a

1905
01:32:40,947 --> 01:32:43,387
Speaker 26: whole bunch of things have actually come together to multiply out.

1906
01:32:43,467 --> 01:32:46,307
Speaker 26: So we've got one plus one as now equally three,

1907
01:32:46,507 --> 01:32:48,467
Speaker 26: and it's sort of just finding that recipe how things

1908
01:32:48,507 --> 01:32:52,467
Speaker 26: work together. And it's not just the shiny toys, it's

1909
01:32:52,507 --> 01:32:54,867
Speaker 26: all the stuff that sits behind it, building that culture,

1910
01:32:54,987 --> 01:32:57,867
Speaker 26: the connection element, and as a facility, we've worked really

1911
01:32:57,907 --> 01:32:59,107
Speaker 26: hard on that as well, to try and get that

1912
01:32:59,107 --> 01:33:00,067
Speaker 26: connection element right.

1913
01:33:00,467 --> 01:33:03,827
Speaker 5: You were the venue as well for the official All

1914
01:33:03,827 --> 01:33:08,147
Speaker 5: Blacks launch on Wednesday, which was a really terrific ceremony,

1915
01:33:08,227 --> 01:33:11,147
Speaker 5: I have to say, involving kids from six local schools,

1916
01:33:11,507 --> 01:33:15,547
Speaker 5: the players, others associated with the game, dignitaries, a lot

1917
01:33:15,587 --> 01:33:18,507
Speaker 5: of people who have a vested interest in this place.

1918
01:33:18,787 --> 01:33:20,147
Speaker 5: How special a day was that for you.

1919
01:33:21,667 --> 01:33:23,547
Speaker 26: We're extremely proud a lot of people on the whaka

1920
01:33:23,627 --> 01:33:25,947
Speaker 26: here and you look at that event and it's a

1921
01:33:25,987 --> 01:33:27,867
Speaker 26: combination of a lot of things leading up to it.

1922
01:33:29,187 --> 01:33:31,547
Speaker 26: We're proud to welcome all our international guests. We were

1923
01:33:31,587 --> 01:33:33,507
Speaker 26: super proud when we had the wheelchair rugby here at

1924
01:33:33,507 --> 01:33:35,387
Speaker 26: the start of the year. That was special as well.

1925
01:33:35,867 --> 01:33:37,907
Speaker 26: But when we stand up there and it sort of

1926
01:33:37,947 --> 01:33:40,667
Speaker 26: resonates that you've created a facility that the types of

1927
01:33:40,667 --> 01:33:42,907
Speaker 26: teams like the All Blacks want to use and want

1928
01:33:42,947 --> 01:33:46,147
Speaker 26: to be based here for their first camp, it is special.

1929
01:33:46,147 --> 01:33:47,427
Speaker 18: It is really special for everyone.

1930
01:33:47,667 --> 01:33:52,267
Speaker 5: Tell us about the special rope. I'm going to get

1931
01:33:52,267 --> 01:33:55,067
Speaker 5: the word wording wrong yet, but the rope tying that

1932
01:33:55,147 --> 01:33:57,267
Speaker 5: happened that day just give us a background to that.

1933
01:33:57,667 --> 01:34:00,507
Speaker 26: Yeah, look, that's something that evolved with Luke Crawford. He's

1934
01:34:00,547 --> 01:34:02,267
Speaker 26: the commat we're here at the campus and he spent

1935
01:34:02,307 --> 01:34:05,627
Speaker 26: a lot of time in rugby circles. He has been

1936
01:34:05,667 --> 01:34:07,667
Speaker 26: with us on this year and he's near since day

1937
01:34:07,667 --> 01:34:10,067
Speaker 26: dot And it was in twenty twenty, just pre COVID

1938
01:34:10,107 --> 01:34:10,427
Speaker 26: when he.

1939
01:34:10,387 --> 01:34:12,707
Speaker 18: Walked into the big green room.

1940
01:34:12,867 --> 01:34:15,747
Speaker 26: It was just a dirt surface and he stood there

1941
01:34:15,827 --> 01:34:17,227
Speaker 26: in the middle and he sort of looked around him

1942
01:34:17,227 --> 01:34:19,067
Speaker 26: and he said, eh, I can see this as being

1943
01:34:19,507 --> 01:34:21,347
Speaker 26: somewhere we're going to get together and assemble. And it

1944
01:34:21,387 --> 01:34:24,467
Speaker 26: was nearly a year later when he walked back after COVID.

1945
01:34:24,867 --> 01:34:26,867
Speaker 26: We had our big braces up in the ceiling there

1946
01:34:26,907 --> 01:34:29,787
Speaker 26: and he said, brother, this is our this is our

1947
01:34:29,787 --> 01:34:31,987
Speaker 26: fuddy whorker, this is our boat shed, this is we're

1948
01:34:32,027 --> 01:34:34,347
Speaker 26: going to make boats go faster here. And we meet

1949
01:34:34,347 --> 01:34:36,267
Speaker 26: people on the right seats on the bus and right

1950
01:34:36,307 --> 01:34:39,267
Speaker 26: seats on the whaka and out of that we talked

1951
01:34:39,907 --> 01:34:43,227
Speaker 26: a lot to tiati Awa and Ewey around what does

1952
01:34:43,267 --> 01:34:46,267
Speaker 26: it mean for our values? Not something that's going to

1953
01:34:46,267 --> 01:34:48,467
Speaker 26: be a brand, but our values and it's how we

1954
01:34:48,467 --> 01:34:51,267
Speaker 26: want to be seen by others, and they're proudly represented

1955
01:34:51,307 --> 01:34:53,387
Speaker 26: on both sides of the Fuddy Whiker here. It's something

1956
01:34:53,387 --> 01:34:55,107
Speaker 26: that a kid can walk past and look up and

1957
01:34:55,187 --> 01:34:58,347
Speaker 26: ask questions about what it means. And the three values

1958
01:34:58,387 --> 01:35:01,507
Speaker 26: that we have all talk about, they're represented on paddles,

1959
01:35:02,187 --> 01:35:03,707
Speaker 26: and if you look at the paddles, we've got one

1960
01:35:03,747 --> 01:35:06,907
Speaker 26: that represents growth. It's the multiple elem of growth in

1961
01:35:06,947 --> 01:35:09,707
Speaker 26: your life. It's not one single choru, it's multiple chorus

1962
01:35:09,747 --> 01:35:12,107
Speaker 26: on the one paddle, which talks about the time off

1963
01:35:12,147 --> 01:35:14,747
Speaker 26: the field as well as on it and elements outside

1964
01:35:14,787 --> 01:35:16,547
Speaker 26: of the game. But it's important for us to grow.

1965
01:35:17,227 --> 01:35:20,347
Speaker 26: The second value is about our connection. It's about our

1966
01:35:20,347 --> 01:35:23,187
Speaker 26: connection to our physical environment but also to each other

1967
01:35:23,427 --> 01:35:26,067
Speaker 26: and yourself. And we talk about at the top of

1968
01:35:26,067 --> 01:35:29,227
Speaker 26: that paddle the light triangles in the dark. The light

1969
01:35:29,267 --> 01:35:31,467
Speaker 26: triangles are the good times. It's the stuff you see

1970
01:35:31,467 --> 01:35:33,787
Speaker 26: on social every day, but it's the bad times that

1971
01:35:33,867 --> 01:35:36,227
Speaker 26: often define us and how we overcome those challenges. So

1972
01:35:36,867 --> 01:35:39,187
Speaker 26: we've made sure there's more light triangles than it is dark.

1973
01:35:39,227 --> 01:35:42,467
Speaker 26: But you need to recognize the dark, those paddles are

1974
01:35:42,467 --> 01:35:44,627
Speaker 26: facing upwards. They're at rest, and there's something that we

1975
01:35:44,707 --> 01:35:48,707
Speaker 26: worked with Kuda and the guys at TATA to understand

1976
01:35:48,747 --> 01:35:52,107
Speaker 26: that those paddles being at rest are facing upwards, but

1977
01:35:52,147 --> 01:35:53,947
Speaker 26: there's a little fern in the bottom of each of those.

1978
01:35:54,027 --> 01:35:57,387
Speaker 26: It's always upright, no matter orientation. That's our positivity that

1979
01:35:57,387 --> 01:35:59,027
Speaker 26: we try and bring to every day.

1980
01:36:00,107 --> 01:36:00,987
Speaker 18: And the last paddle.

1981
01:36:01,547 --> 01:36:03,947
Speaker 26: If Kevin Mall are listening, I've said it all the time,

1982
01:36:03,987 --> 01:36:06,347
Speaker 26: so they don't mind. But that middle paddle is out

1983
01:36:06,387 --> 01:36:08,547
Speaker 26: manger putty, and that is the Kevin Mals of the world.

1984
01:36:08,747 --> 01:36:10,187
Speaker 18: They're not the prettiest fish, but cheese.

1985
01:36:10,187 --> 01:36:13,907
Speaker 26: They get stuff done, and it's just tenaciousness, it's resilience,

1986
01:36:14,067 --> 01:36:16,747
Speaker 26: it's just always finding a way. And so those paddle

1987
01:36:16,787 --> 01:36:19,867
Speaker 26: values are really great to sort of tell that story,

1988
01:36:19,907 --> 01:36:22,907
Speaker 26: but had to be something next that could tie a

1989
01:36:22,947 --> 01:36:25,987
Speaker 26: team to the facility and hence that toda. That rope

1990
01:36:26,067 --> 01:36:29,227
Speaker 26: presentation that we do is now that it's more than

1991
01:36:29,227 --> 01:36:31,947
Speaker 26: a symbolic gesture, it's actually a really meaningful gesture that

1992
01:36:31,987 --> 01:36:33,507
Speaker 26: you walk up, you present the.

1993
01:36:33,427 --> 01:36:35,427
Speaker 18: Tode to the team that's coming on to site.

1994
01:36:35,667 --> 01:36:37,787
Speaker 26: They walk over to one of our poe inside the

1995
01:36:37,827 --> 01:36:41,187
Speaker 26: green room and they attach themselves to our waka, and

1996
01:36:41,267 --> 01:36:43,627
Speaker 26: that gesture is that we've got your back, and when

1997
01:36:43,627 --> 01:36:46,027
Speaker 26: you leave, the rope will be taken down, will store

1998
01:36:46,067 --> 01:36:48,627
Speaker 26: it in our foyer for everyone to know that you've

1999
01:36:48,667 --> 01:36:51,067
Speaker 26: been here. But whilst you're away, we'll be thinking about you.

2000
01:36:51,107 --> 01:36:53,067
Speaker 26: When you come back, we want you to attach your

2001
01:36:53,067 --> 01:36:53,707
Speaker 26: whuker again.

2002
01:36:54,267 --> 01:36:57,827
Speaker 5: I love that. I love that. So how does it

2003
01:36:57,867 --> 01:37:00,747
Speaker 5: work in terms of the likes of your tenanty, the Hurricanes,

2004
01:37:00,787 --> 01:37:04,547
Speaker 5: the Phoenix? How do they know? What do they pay you?

2005
01:37:04,747 --> 01:37:06,067
Speaker 5: How does it all work financially?

2006
01:37:06,387 --> 01:37:06,547
Speaker 19: Yeah?

2007
01:37:06,587 --> 01:37:06,787
Speaker 18: Cool?

2008
01:37:06,787 --> 01:37:09,547
Speaker 26: Look, I think it's well known in sport generally and

2009
01:37:09,547 --> 01:37:11,867
Speaker 26: in New Zealand particularly. They haven't got wheelbarrows of cash.

2010
01:37:12,267 --> 01:37:15,587
Speaker 26: No one could afford to build a facility like this themselves.

2011
01:37:16,067 --> 01:37:17,627
Speaker 26: So if we say you need a dollar to run

2012
01:37:17,667 --> 01:37:20,227
Speaker 26: this place, we need tenants paying thirty three cents each

2013
01:37:20,347 --> 01:37:23,867
Speaker 26: so they can share those resources and break it down

2014
01:37:24,027 --> 01:37:26,267
Speaker 26: and to try and do that, there's been a bit

2015
01:37:26,267 --> 01:37:28,067
Speaker 26: of a soft landing period where they're sort of betting

2016
01:37:28,067 --> 01:37:30,427
Speaker 26: in and finding out what they use and then on

2017
01:37:30,507 --> 01:37:32,707
Speaker 26: what happens next is they treat it like an ala

2018
01:37:32,787 --> 01:37:36,027
Speaker 26: carte menu, So they say I want three entrees, five males,

2019
01:37:36,027 --> 01:37:38,627
Speaker 26: two desserts. And for us in our language, it's meaning

2020
01:37:38,947 --> 01:37:41,867
Speaker 26: they'll spend two hours in the gym, four days a week,

2021
01:37:41,987 --> 01:37:45,107
Speaker 26: thirty two weeks a year, and we are then licensed

2022
01:37:45,147 --> 01:37:47,587
Speaker 26: to occupy those spaces and so they can come and

2023
01:37:47,667 --> 01:37:49,667
Speaker 26: draw down on a bucket of hours. The Women's Phoenix,

2024
01:37:49,667 --> 01:37:51,867
Speaker 26: the Men's Phoenix come in and they draw down on

2025
01:37:51,907 --> 01:37:56,027
Speaker 26: those hours to utilize the different spaces. So they pay

2026
01:37:56,107 --> 01:37:59,267
Speaker 26: us a license fee, and that license fee or that

2027
01:37:59,307 --> 01:38:02,507
Speaker 26: agreement spread out over a number of years, and like anything,

2028
01:38:02,707 --> 01:38:04,827
Speaker 26: the greater the commitment, the more benefits we can give

2029
01:38:04,867 --> 01:38:09,227
Speaker 26: them and work together on proper partnerships, not just in

2030
01:38:09,267 --> 01:38:11,507
Speaker 26: a commercial sense, but also maybe looking forward to how

2031
01:38:11,547 --> 01:38:14,307
Speaker 26: we generate other revenues with them along this journey.

2032
01:38:14,267 --> 01:38:17,307
Speaker 5: And just on that is that can the Hurricanes, the Phoenix,

2033
01:38:17,347 --> 01:38:19,067
Speaker 5: other sports teams can they afford that?

2034
01:38:19,627 --> 01:38:21,667
Speaker 26: Look, I think Pine we have to find ways And

2035
01:38:22,467 --> 01:38:26,827
Speaker 26: again mel and keV mal particularly is driving a mindset

2036
01:38:26,827 --> 01:38:28,707
Speaker 26: we have to change the way sport is funded in

2037
01:38:28,747 --> 01:38:32,067
Speaker 26: New Zealand, and it's been it's not uncommon. It's out

2038
01:38:32,107 --> 01:38:35,027
Speaker 26: in social media that even the Central Coast Marinus this

2039
01:38:35,107 --> 01:38:37,867
Speaker 26: year the most successful club won everything they could, but

2040
01:38:37,907 --> 01:38:41,107
Speaker 26: they still posted a huge loss because the central funding

2041
01:38:41,147 --> 01:38:43,627
Speaker 26: system has taken away a lot of that money. We've

2042
01:38:43,667 --> 01:38:47,507
Speaker 26: seen successful clubs would be the Penrith Panthers. They've got

2043
01:38:47,507 --> 01:38:49,987
Speaker 26: their own Leagues club. They posted one hundred and fifty

2044
01:38:50,027 --> 01:38:52,547
Speaker 26: three million dollar revenue this year. They made eight hundred

2045
01:38:52,587 --> 01:38:55,547
Speaker 26: thousand dollars worth a profit. They also built a hotel,

2046
01:38:55,627 --> 01:38:57,787
Speaker 26: hence the profit being a little bit lower. Yes, that's

2047
01:38:57,827 --> 01:39:01,027
Speaker 26: pretty smart footy. But the revenue streams that they have

2048
01:39:01,227 --> 01:39:04,147
Speaker 26: are things like gambling. They've got pokey machines, they've got

2049
01:39:04,347 --> 01:39:06,827
Speaker 26: their own clubs with food and beverage, and those two

2050
01:39:06,827 --> 01:39:09,347
Speaker 26: elements alone, I think it was ninety million out of gambling.

2051
01:39:09,387 --> 01:39:12,147
Speaker 26: It was thirty million out of food and beverage. We

2052
01:39:12,187 --> 01:39:14,707
Speaker 26: simply don't have those revenue streams for our teams here

2053
01:39:14,707 --> 01:39:16,947
Speaker 26: in New Zealand, so we have to box a bit

2054
01:39:16,987 --> 01:39:20,227
Speaker 26: smarter now. We're looking at lots of creative ways to

2055
01:39:20,267 --> 01:39:23,347
Speaker 26: do that now, whether that's bricks and mortar businesses, whether

2056
01:39:23,347 --> 01:39:27,187
Speaker 26: that's through the commercialization of information, whether that's through developing products.

2057
01:39:27,547 --> 01:39:30,707
Speaker 26: We have to find ways and means to look after

2058
01:39:30,827 --> 01:39:34,427
Speaker 26: the club, the athlete and ourselves and realistically have those

2059
01:39:34,467 --> 01:39:36,987
Speaker 26: open conversations. How big the pie, how do we cut

2060
01:39:37,027 --> 01:39:38,947
Speaker 26: it up? That's where it's got to go. We can't

2061
01:39:38,947 --> 01:39:40,907
Speaker 26: rely on bums on seats at stadiums anymore.

2062
01:39:41,427 --> 01:39:47,747
Speaker 5: And because what the traditional revenue streams ticketing, sponsorship and broadcast,

2063
01:39:48,227 --> 01:39:50,587
Speaker 5: So there needs to be more than just those.

2064
01:39:50,387 --> 01:39:51,507
Speaker 18: Three hundred percent.

2065
01:39:51,707 --> 01:39:55,627
Speaker 26: And we know that we saw an influx of the

2066
01:39:55,627 --> 01:39:57,987
Speaker 26: people jumping on the boat for the Phoenix and and

2067
01:39:57,987 --> 01:39:59,667
Speaker 26: the Hurricanes as it got closer to the end of

2068
01:39:59,707 --> 01:40:03,467
Speaker 26: the season. But I think we have to ensure that

2069
01:40:03,507 --> 01:40:06,027
Speaker 26: if we diversify revenue streams, we're not so reliant on

2070
01:40:06,067 --> 01:40:08,707
Speaker 26: those the broadcast as you know, I don't need to

2071
01:40:08,707 --> 01:40:11,227
Speaker 26: tell you Piney, it's just changed the way that people

2072
01:40:11,827 --> 01:40:14,987
Speaker 26: ingest content has changed merchandise.

2073
01:40:15,027 --> 01:40:15,707
Speaker 18: We have to be smarter.

2074
01:40:15,787 --> 01:40:19,307
Speaker 26: How can we access that global audience. So it's maybe

2075
01:40:19,467 --> 01:40:22,427
Speaker 26: building out those international partnerships with overseas clubs, that sort

2076
01:40:22,427 --> 01:40:22,667
Speaker 26: of thing.

2077
01:40:22,827 --> 01:40:25,307
Speaker 5: Yeah, food for thought. What is your vision for in

2078
01:40:25,427 --> 01:40:27,747
Speaker 5: zd Cis if we sitting here in ten years, what

2079
01:40:28,467 --> 01:40:29,387
Speaker 5: are we seeing around us?

2080
01:40:29,467 --> 01:40:29,627
Speaker 10: Oh?

2081
01:40:29,667 --> 01:40:31,627
Speaker 26: Well, I'm glad maus not here because that would be

2082
01:40:31,627 --> 01:40:34,827
Speaker 26: a much longer conversation. The guy doesn't stop and it's

2083
01:40:35,107 --> 01:40:37,507
Speaker 26: melan keV really complementary individuals of each other.

2084
01:40:37,747 --> 01:40:38,787
Speaker 18: A lot of fun to work with.

2085
01:40:39,507 --> 01:40:41,227
Speaker 26: But you have to run to keep up, and that's great,

2086
01:40:41,267 --> 01:40:43,987
Speaker 26: Like it keeps your mind active and your body active.

2087
01:40:44,467 --> 01:40:45,347
Speaker 18: What could it look like?

2088
01:40:45,427 --> 01:40:48,187
Speaker 26: I would love to see two new basketball courts netball

2089
01:40:48,227 --> 01:40:51,187
Speaker 26: courts across from the main gym here. I think it's

2090
01:40:51,227 --> 01:40:54,547
Speaker 26: now establishing what that next user group could be. We'd

2091
01:40:54,627 --> 01:40:57,987
Speaker 26: love to contemplate the idea of making the first parasport

2092
01:40:58,027 --> 01:41:01,347
Speaker 26: venue in the world from ground up. We think ballerinas

2093
01:41:01,387 --> 01:41:03,467
Speaker 26: they run up and land like netball and basketball. Why

2094
01:41:03,467 --> 01:41:06,707
Speaker 26: aren't we talking to them? There's some Olympics sports that

2095
01:41:06,707 --> 01:41:08,667
Speaker 26: don't have a home currently, so can we be smart

2096
01:41:08,667 --> 01:41:12,067
Speaker 26: and sort of how we construct that venue. Would love

2097
01:41:12,107 --> 01:41:15,787
Speaker 26: that venue to be a medical center. It's not uncommon

2098
01:41:15,787 --> 01:41:18,027
Speaker 26: knowledge that we really struggle in New Zealand for body

2099
01:41:18,107 --> 01:41:21,507
Speaker 26: scanning imagery ct MRI X ray.

2100
01:41:21,907 --> 01:41:23,227
Speaker 18: Why can't we do it here privately?

2101
01:41:23,267 --> 01:41:26,027
Speaker 26: Why can't we open it up to Joe public, Joanne

2102
01:41:26,027 --> 01:41:30,227
Speaker 26: public around the place. If there was one vision that

2103
01:41:30,427 --> 01:41:32,907
Speaker 26: was sort of really out there and we've talked about

2104
01:41:32,947 --> 01:41:34,907
Speaker 26: it sort of and other people got wind of it.

2105
01:41:34,947 --> 01:41:37,707
Speaker 26: But you talk about Trent and Racecourse. What could happen

2106
01:41:37,707 --> 01:41:40,187
Speaker 26: there in the future, maintain the integrity of the racecourse.

2107
01:41:40,187 --> 01:41:42,027
Speaker 26: But is it possible to have like a ten thousand

2108
01:41:42,027 --> 01:41:44,867
Speaker 26: seat covered stadium sitting whack in the middle of that,

2109
01:41:44,987 --> 01:41:47,187
Speaker 26: Like that's the sort of blue sky that I know.

2110
01:41:47,827 --> 01:41:49,467
Speaker 26: It gets us excited. But look there's a lot of

2111
01:41:49,467 --> 01:41:50,627
Speaker 26: water under that bridge.

2112
01:41:50,827 --> 01:41:53,467
Speaker 5: But then you take it back to the genesis of

2113
01:41:53,467 --> 01:41:55,747
Speaker 5: this place and that was blue skying as well, and

2114
01:41:55,827 --> 01:41:58,267
Speaker 5: here we are. That's possible, right.

2115
01:41:58,067 --> 01:42:01,947
Speaker 26: Yeah, that's Male's favorite saying. Really, he said, if you

2116
01:42:01,987 --> 01:42:05,147
Speaker 26: can believe it, sorry, conceive it, believe it, you'll achieve it.

2117
01:42:05,707 --> 01:42:06,427
Speaker 18: And there was a lot of.

2118
01:42:06,427 --> 01:42:08,667
Speaker 26: People I think were surprised when this was a pile

2119
01:42:08,707 --> 01:42:13,067
Speaker 26: of dirt to then come back in eighteen months and go, oh, well, it's.

2120
01:42:12,867 --> 01:42:17,267
Speaker 5: Actually it actually happened. Yeah, yeah, no, I must have known.

2121
01:42:17,507 --> 01:42:19,947
Speaker 5: You were generous enough to give me a look around

2122
01:42:19,947 --> 01:42:21,827
Speaker 5: when it was just a pile of dirt. Really and

2123
01:42:21,867 --> 01:42:25,147
Speaker 5: some you know, some bare bones. And I come back

2124
01:42:25,187 --> 01:42:29,107
Speaker 5: here on a weekly basis during the Phoenix and hurricane

2125
01:42:29,147 --> 01:42:31,987
Speaker 5: seasons for media sessions, and every time I drive in here,

2126
01:42:32,027 --> 01:42:35,467
Speaker 5: I just get a sense of what is possible if

2127
01:42:35,627 --> 01:42:39,307
Speaker 5: somebody is a doer if they conceive believe, they can achieve.

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Speaker 5: So it's a terrific place. Mate. I feel like I

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Speaker 5: need an office out here. I feel like I need

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Speaker 5: to talk to the powers that be at News Talk,

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Speaker 5: said B. And we need to build a studio. We

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Speaker 5: don't have to plug into, you know, just temporarily. We

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Speaker 5: should permanently be here.

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Speaker 26: Made would kick me if I said eight hundred square

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Speaker 26: meters for you up in one of the vacant floors.

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Speaker 5: Still, I'm going to get my people to talk to

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Speaker 5: your people while we've been talking to one another. Jamie,

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Speaker 5: thanks for your hospitality this afternoon. We're giving out your

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Speaker 5: office and congrats on a terrific weeks so far with

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Speaker 5: the All Blacks. I know it's going to stand them.

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Speaker 18: In a really good stead this year, we hope, so too.

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Speaker 5: Good on you mate. Thanks today, Jamie Taut, general manager

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Speaker 5: of the New Zealand Campus of Innovation and Sport in

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Speaker 5: Upper Heart where we are broadcasting from today. It is

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Speaker 5: two twenty seven. When we come back. We're off to France.

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Speaker 5: Off to Italy actually for the start of the Tour

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Speaker 5: de France, the well most iconic bike race in the world.

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Speaker 5: Tour commentator Anthony mccrosson is with u's right.

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Speaker 6: After this.

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Speaker 1: Live from the first All Blacks camp of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four on your home of Sport, Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Sport with Jason Fine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Garner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News Talks

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Speaker 5: Bang on two thirty on News Talks Here. I had

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Speaker 5: a question through about Cam Roygard. Actually I didn't get

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Speaker 5: the chance to ask Razor about that, but I did

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Speaker 5: see Cam Royguard, interestingly enough, just before we came into

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Speaker 5: our mobile studio here at NZ at CIS. He had

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Speaker 5: just been working out in the gym and I just

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Speaker 5: asked him if he's on track, and he said, yes,

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Speaker 5: I'm on track. So I think you'll see Cam roy

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Speaker 5: Guard wearing the black jersey potentially on the end of

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Speaker 5: year tour this year if his progress continues on the

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Speaker 5: same trajectory, which is terrific. News. One of the most

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Speaker 5: iconic sporting events in the world is the Tour de France.

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Speaker 5: It starts tonight. Let's bring in tour commentator Anthony mccross

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Speaker 5: and two Weekend Sport. Anthony, thanks for taking the time

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Speaker 5: to preview the Tour de France with us Tade Pagachia,

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Speaker 5: Jonas Vinger Guard. They've won the last four tours between them,

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Speaker 5: each of them aiming to win a third Tour de France.

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Speaker 5: So are we looking at a two man race here?

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Speaker 23: That's an interesting question, isn't it. They've dominated the Tour

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Speaker 23: de France Taday and Jonas of one of the last

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Speaker 23: four editions. But I think it's really easy for you

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Speaker 23: to be thinking this is a two wars race, So

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Speaker 23: actually is it a one horse race? Because Taddi Pagaccia

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Speaker 23: really recently dominated the Giroditalia. He just rode away with it.

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Speaker 23: He was head and shoulders above everybody else. However, when

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Speaker 23: you look at the field of the Tour de France,

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Speaker 23: there's a lot of riders who believe that Taday and

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Speaker 23: Jonas are beatable. Now Jonas is potentially beatable because he's

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Speaker 23: just had a huge crash a few months ago in

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Speaker 23: the Tour of the Basque Country, and there's actually been

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Speaker 23: questions over whether Yonas will actually ride the Tour de France.

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Speaker 23: But he's here and he's riding, and that's fantastic. So

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Speaker 23: we've got those two. But outside of that, there's a

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Speaker 23: number of other riders who can win this race.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to get to those other riders in

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Speaker 5: the moment here today, But just Ons finger Guard and

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Speaker 5: that crash and the fact that he is under a

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Speaker 5: bit of a cloud coming into the Tour de France.

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Speaker 5: This is not the sort of race where you can

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Speaker 5: be anything less than one hundred percent prepared, as it

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Speaker 5: could he get found out potentially.

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Speaker 23: The Tour de France. There's nowhere to hide at some point.

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Speaker 23: There's a twist in the tail for everybody, and everyone

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Speaker 23: has some sort of bad day. If you come into

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Speaker 23: the Tour de France and you aren't prepared, at some point,

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Speaker 23: you're going to be found out. And that's the massive

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Speaker 23: question mark over Jonas Fingergard. Does he have the endurance,

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Speaker 23: does he have the form? Can he compete? For three

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Speaker 23: weeks now we know on normal circumstances Jonas can, but

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Speaker 23: canny this time because Taday has been superb all season

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Speaker 23: and I'm sure at some point Yonas could be found out,

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Speaker 23: And actually wonder whether it could be in the early stages,

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Speaker 23: because as we ride into the race, Jonas will probably

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Speaker 23: get better and better. But the early stages of this

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Speaker 23: year's Tour of France are brutal. We start in Florence.

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Speaker 23: The first few days are intermediate mountain stages. We go

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Speaker 23: to the Glibrier on day four in the mountains, so

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Speaker 23: if you're not on form, you will be found out.

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Speaker 23: And I am sure Taday's team is going to do

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Speaker 23: everything they can to question Yonas over the first few

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Speaker 23: days and get rid of him potentially, and then we

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Speaker 23: might see another rider in the VISAA Lisa Bike team

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Speaker 23: emerge as a possible leader of that squad. But I

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Speaker 23: do hope that Jonas is on top form, that we

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Speaker 23: have an amazing battle and we have the usual twists

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Speaker 23: and turns of the three weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I promise. I do want to talk about

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Speaker 5: the other riders. But just before we leave, these two

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Speaker 5: regard Chat and Fingergard. Are we looking at one of

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Speaker 5: cycling's all time great rivalries already or or a battle

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Speaker 5: that is shaping to be so?

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Speaker 2: I think it is.

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Speaker 23: What I think is fantastic about this rivalry though, is

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Speaker 23: that they are they do really respect each other, which

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Speaker 23: I think is a fantastic rivalry. It's not like this

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Speaker 23: really brutal rivalry where they really hate each other and

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Speaker 23: they want to just beat each other every day. There

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Speaker 23: is respect there, and they do race each other very

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Speaker 23: very hard on the climbs. The attacks they do are fantastic.

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Speaker 23: We've seen amazing moments actually of respect. You remember a

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Speaker 23: couple of years ago when they shook hands on the

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Speaker 23: descent because they realized they were racing each other so hard,

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Speaker 23: potentially they were going to crash each other. So it's

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Speaker 23: a it's kind of a beautiful rivalry in some ways,

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Speaker 23: but it's also one of those rivalries that at top

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Speaker 23: of mountains we're on the edge of our seats where

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Speaker 23: we can't wait for that duel between the two of

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Speaker 23: them at top of a mountain, where they just don't

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Speaker 23: give an inch. They want to beat each other and

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Speaker 23: they just will not let the other one win. I

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Speaker 23: think it's a true sporting rivalry. It's fantastic to watch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, first and adding stuff all right, least look at

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Speaker 5: some of the others, Anthony, who are the other riders

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Speaker 5: to watch in terms of possible overall Tour de France winners?

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Speaker 23: In particular, I think Primus Rogolitch is probably for me

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Speaker 23: the third favorite of this year's race, because he looks

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Speaker 23: all ready to have come out the crash in the

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Speaker 23: Basque Country. Not unscathed, but relatively unscathed. He's just won

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Speaker 23: the Criteria de Dophine, which is one of those build

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Speaker 23: up races for the Tour de France. He looked superb there.

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Speaker 23: He had another couple of crashes. Primos tends to crash

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Speaker 23: a lot. Let's hope he doesn't crash too much in

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Speaker 23: the tour. He's already won three tours Tours of Spain,

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Speaker 23: love Welters. He's already won the giroed Italia. He's finished

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Speaker 23: on the podium of the Tour de France. He wants

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Speaker 23: to win the tour. This is the one that he

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Speaker 23: really needs. I think Primos is probably your third favorite

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Speaker 23: and the rider who we will see battle with Taddy

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Speaker 23: and Jonas Remco. He was questioned in a Dauphine and

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Speaker 23: he kept saying I'm not ready yet. He really did

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Speaker 23: suffer after that crash in the Basque Country. He didn't

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Speaker 23: look ready in the Dauphin e.

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Speaker 4: I was there.

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Speaker 23: It was what two and a bit weeks ago, three

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Speaker 23: weeks to the tour. He's had time to go back

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Speaker 23: to altitude to train again. I hope Remco's ready because

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Speaker 23: Remco with Primos, with Jonas with Tadde is an incredible

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Speaker 23: duel over three weeks, and the Belgian fans really believe

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Speaker 23: in him to win the tour because he's already won

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Speaker 23: a Grand Tour. He's one of the welter It's going

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Speaker 23: to be exciting if he's really there and he's recovered.

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Speaker 5: Let's look at the race route there in the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four tour features seven mountain stages, including four summit finishers.

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Speaker 5: How much is that going to suit the climbers in

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Speaker 5: terms of overall finishing position.

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Speaker 23: Well, when we look at the stages, the mountain stages

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Speaker 23: of course are critical and you've got to be on

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Speaker 23: form those days, but there's a couple of other stages

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Speaker 23: i'd highlight which are really important. There's a gravel stage

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Speaker 23: in this year's race. That gravel day comes on day

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Speaker 23: number nine. That's the day when you get that normal term,

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Speaker 23: the famous term. You can't win the Tour de France

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Speaker 23: that day, but you can certainly lose it. And there

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Speaker 23: are fourteen sectors of gravel roads on DA number nine,

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Speaker 23: and I think that because that's a really critical day

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Speaker 23: for this year's race. If you have bad luck you'll

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Speaker 23: lose minutes, you'll be way behind. Certainly, you've got to

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Speaker 23: be in touch in the mountains, that's without doubt. There's

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Speaker 23: fifty three thousand meters of climbing in this year's race,

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Speaker 23: and you've also got a couple of individual time trials,

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Speaker 23: notably one on the final day, So if the race

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Speaker 23: is still really close, we have a time troll on

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Speaker 23: the last day. And I always think back to nineteen

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Speaker 23: eighty nine on the Shaunzalise when Greg LeMond famously beat

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Speaker 23: Lauren Fignon to steal the Tour de France on the

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Speaker 23: last day and win it by eight seconds. Are we

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Speaker 23: going to get the same again? That could be exciting.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it's because we don't have the traditional what

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Speaker 5: has become a ceremonial precision for the most part, and

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Speaker 5: to Pais on the final day down the Shampsalise to

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Speaker 5: the art of tree off because of course the tour

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Speaker 5: is so close to the Paris Olympic Game. So and stead,

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Speaker 5: as you've mentioned, Anthony, we've got an individual time trial

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Speaker 5: from Monaco to Nice to finish things up on the

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Speaker 5: final day. How much will that possi protably change things

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Speaker 5: on that final.

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Speaker 23: Day, you've got thirty three point seven kilometers of time

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Speaker 23: for it's a long way. Maybe it won't shake up

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Speaker 23: the first and second because that might be decided by then.

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Speaker 23: But if if there's a minute between each rider, then

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Speaker 23: we've got a big battle in our hands on the

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Speaker 23: final day. But it will certainly shape the top six.

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Speaker 23: You'll see some movement, no doubt on that final day.

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Speaker 23: But I'm sure that the Tour de France organizers, so

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Speaker 23: the race directors, Christian Prudom and Tierry Guveno, I'm sure

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Speaker 23: that they're thinking, come on, let's have one minute between

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Speaker 23: two riders. Final day, big battle. Everybody's on the edge

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Speaker 23: of their seats. Everybody wants to know who's going to win.

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Speaker 23: And I hope that's the case. I that's the case.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we all do. I think they'll have

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Speaker 5: an exciting way to finish all the tour. At the

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Speaker 5: start though, for the first time, we begin in Italy,

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Speaker 5: marking one hundred years since Ortevio Bottaccia became the first

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Speaker 5: Italian winner of this rights. How will they change things

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Speaker 5: starting in Italy or other cyclists Now, cyclists now just

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Speaker 5: used to sort of going with it old that's very true.

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Speaker 23: But let's remember that Italy is passionate about bike racing,

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Speaker 23: that geroed Italia is steeped in the history of the

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Speaker 23: Italian people for all sorts of reasons. And it's interesting

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Speaker 23: that I was at the gioed Italian in May and

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Speaker 23: I didn't think the Tourder France would have much impact

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01:53:36,227 --> 01:53:39,907
Speaker 23: in Italy, but it's really captured the imagination of the

2337
01:53:39,947 --> 01:53:43,467
Speaker 23: Italian people, and so many people are saying it's amazing

2338
01:53:43,547 --> 01:53:46,107
Speaker 23: that Tourder France is here and that we want to

2339
01:53:46,107 --> 01:53:48,427
Speaker 23: be part of it. I think the crowds are going

2340
01:53:48,507 --> 01:53:51,507
Speaker 23: to be huge. I think the impact of the race

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01:53:51,587 --> 01:53:54,307
Speaker 23: is going to be pretty special, because, as I mentioned before,

2342
01:53:55,507 --> 01:53:59,587
Speaker 23: the early stages of this race in Italy are incredibly hard.

2343
01:54:00,547 --> 01:54:05,587
Speaker 23: You've got Day two, which is around Bologna, and you've

2344
01:54:05,627 --> 01:54:08,347
Speaker 23: got a famous of sam Luca, which is a really

2345
01:54:08,387 --> 01:54:10,987
Speaker 23: tough climb, and also on that day a climate at

2346
01:54:11,067 --> 01:54:14,027
Speaker 23: julian Ala. Phelippe famously won the World Championships on in

2347
01:54:14,067 --> 01:54:17,987
Speaker 23: twenty twenty. Everyone knows those roads, they know how tricky

2348
01:54:18,027 --> 01:54:20,547
Speaker 23: they are. They know that if you're a race favorite,

2349
01:54:20,587 --> 01:54:22,787
Speaker 23: you need to be at the front that day. So

2350
01:54:22,827 --> 01:54:24,987
Speaker 23: I think they'll really shape what's going to be quite

2351
01:54:25,027 --> 01:54:28,267
Speaker 23: a dynamic race this year in the tour. But I

2352
01:54:28,347 --> 01:54:31,427
Speaker 23: think we're going to see huge, huge crowds.

2353
01:54:31,747 --> 01:54:35,627
Speaker 5: How important Anthony too, success on the Tour de France's

2354
01:54:36,107 --> 01:54:39,907
Speaker 5: staying out of trouble and avoiding potential creatures.

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01:54:41,547 --> 01:54:44,867
Speaker 23: You have to have your team around about you all

2356
01:54:44,867 --> 01:54:46,907
Speaker 23: the time. In the tourder France. They've got to keep

2357
01:54:46,907 --> 01:54:50,027
Speaker 23: you out of trouble. On tricky days like day two

2358
01:54:50,147 --> 01:54:52,427
Speaker 23: in the tour, you need to be at the front.

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01:54:53,827 --> 01:54:56,067
Speaker 23: But the problem in the tourder France is that you've

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01:54:56,107 --> 01:54:59,587
Speaker 23: got all of these teams, twenty two teams, one hundred

2361
01:54:59,587 --> 01:55:02,707
Speaker 23: and seventy six riders with their sports directors in their

2362
01:55:02,747 --> 01:55:06,667
Speaker 23: ear all telling them being near the front. So it's

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01:55:06,707 --> 01:55:09,707
Speaker 23: always very very tricky as far as ryders coming to

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01:55:09,827 --> 01:55:14,387
Speaker 23: the front in this whole battle for position. But the

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01:55:14,427 --> 01:55:18,427
Speaker 23: teams of Taday, of Jonas, of Primus Roglch, of Remco Vnopol,

2366
01:55:18,947 --> 01:55:21,307
Speaker 23: they need to be right on their game on day

2367
01:55:21,347 --> 01:55:23,427
Speaker 23: one of this Tour de France. Keep them at the front,

2368
01:55:23,547 --> 01:55:26,787
Speaker 23: keep them out of trouble, don't get involved in crashes,

2369
01:55:27,547 --> 01:55:30,307
Speaker 23: because we want to see the battle in the third

2370
01:55:30,347 --> 01:55:33,107
Speaker 23: week of those big name riders. We don't want to

2371
01:55:33,147 --> 01:55:35,627
Speaker 23: lose a big favorite earlier on in the tour.

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Speaker 5: Just want to touch on Sir Mark Cavendish the first

2373
01:55:39,347 --> 01:55:42,547
Speaker 5: even night to race the Grand Tour as fifteenth and

2374
01:55:42,787 --> 01:55:46,547
Speaker 5: final tour. It's been confirmed that he will definitely participate.

2375
01:55:47,267 --> 01:55:51,867
Speaker 5: Has he got one last stage one lift in them?

2376
01:55:51,907 --> 01:55:54,787
Speaker 23: What a year this would be If Mark Cavendish could

2377
01:55:54,787 --> 01:55:58,707
Speaker 23: win race number thirty five, Stage win thirty five in

2378
01:55:58,747 --> 01:56:01,747
Speaker 23: the Tour de France, it would cap everything off for

2379
01:56:01,867 --> 01:56:05,427
Speaker 23: Mark Cavendish. Last year, of course, he ended up on

2380
01:56:05,467 --> 01:56:08,227
Speaker 23: the deck in a massive crash. He was taken out

2381
01:56:08,267 --> 01:56:11,187
Speaker 23: the Tour de France. We had that image of him

2382
01:56:11,267 --> 01:56:15,907
Speaker 23: sitting in the back of a van, dream over raceover

2383
01:56:16,387 --> 01:56:19,547
Speaker 23: Tour de France. Career finished. But he just couldn't let

2384
01:56:19,547 --> 01:56:22,187
Speaker 23: it go, could he. He had to come back. So

2385
01:56:22,307 --> 01:56:24,907
Speaker 23: Cavendish is on the start line. They've built a new

2386
01:56:25,027 --> 01:56:28,387
Speaker 23: lead out train round about him. He's up against some

2387
01:56:28,467 --> 01:56:30,907
Speaker 23: of the well the fastest sprinters in the world. Yes,

2388
01:56:30,987 --> 01:56:36,227
Speaker 23: we're Phillips and Dylan Gronavegan, Fernando Gaberia, Sam Bennett. All

2389
01:56:36,267 --> 01:56:39,867
Speaker 23: of them would say we'd love to see cav win

2390
01:56:40,667 --> 01:56:44,707
Speaker 23: stage number thirty five. But not as far as I'm concerned,

2391
01:56:44,707 --> 01:56:47,787
Speaker 23: because I'm going to beat him. As long as I

2392
01:56:47,867 --> 01:56:50,827
Speaker 23: win some stages, I'm fine. Can he do it? I

2393
01:56:50,867 --> 01:56:54,387
Speaker 23: really do think Cavendish can win stage thirty five, and

2394
01:56:54,507 --> 01:56:57,427
Speaker 23: what a legendary win it would be. He's just been

2395
01:56:57,507 --> 01:57:01,347
Speaker 23: knighted actually in the UK, so he's now sur Mark Cavendish,

2396
01:57:01,667 --> 01:57:03,147
Speaker 23: so he might as well arise in a.

2397
01:57:03,187 --> 01:57:08,387
Speaker 5: Tour of France. I love it. Or analysis has been incisive,

2398
01:57:08,427 --> 01:57:10,907
Speaker 5: spot on, but I'm going to need you to give

2399
01:57:10,987 --> 01:57:13,507
Speaker 5: us a pick now. Who is your pick to win

2400
01:57:13,547 --> 01:57:15,027
Speaker 5: the Tour de France twenty twenty four.

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01:57:16,507 --> 01:57:20,267
Speaker 23: It's very easy, who isn't it to pick Paddei Bagatcha,

2402
01:57:20,427 --> 01:57:22,707
Speaker 23: But I don't think you can look past him. I

2403
01:57:22,707 --> 01:57:26,347
Speaker 23: didn't Paddy Pagacha this year has got everything right, the

2404
01:57:26,427 --> 01:57:31,507
Speaker 23: team right, the preparation right. The Jiro was incredible. I'd

2405
01:57:31,547 --> 01:57:34,427
Speaker 23: love him to win the Giro Italia and the Tour

2406
01:57:34,507 --> 01:57:36,907
Speaker 23: de France in the same year because then he could

2407
01:57:36,947 --> 01:57:39,587
Speaker 23: go on and win the World Championships. And the last

2408
01:57:39,587 --> 01:57:43,067
Speaker 23: person to do that was Steven Roach, whose son is

2409
01:57:43,107 --> 01:57:45,427
Speaker 23: sitting alongside me in the commentary booth.

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01:57:45,787 --> 01:57:49,707
Speaker 5: Amazing, Anthony, It's been so good to get your preview

2411
01:57:49,747 --> 01:57:53,107
Speaker 5: of what is an iconic sporting event and one which

2412
01:57:53,107 --> 01:57:55,547
Speaker 5: has watched the world over, including here in New Zealand.

2413
01:57:55,707 --> 01:57:58,427
Speaker 5: Really appreciate you taking the time. Have a great month,

2414
01:57:58,427 --> 01:58:01,827
Speaker 5: ay hit and again thanks for joining us across New Zealand.

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01:58:02,307 --> 01:58:05,187
Speaker 23: Thanks very much for taking the time and enjoy the

2416
01:58:05,267 --> 01:58:07,107
Speaker 23: Tour de France because this year is going to be

2417
01:58:07,107 --> 01:58:07,827
Speaker 23: pretty special.

2418
01:58:07,907 --> 01:58:10,627
Speaker 5: Thank you, no, thank you Anthony Anthony Mcross and their

2419
01:58:10,667 --> 01:58:13,267
Speaker 5: tour commentator for the Tour de France, which is underway

2420
01:58:13,307 --> 01:58:16,467
Speaker 5: in Italy tonight just on ten o'clock New Zealand time.

2421
01:58:16,667 --> 01:58:18,747
Speaker 5: They'll get underway. We'll follow it right through the next

2422
01:58:18,787 --> 01:58:21,267
Speaker 5: month or so and check in with all of the

2423
01:58:21,347 --> 01:58:24,547
Speaker 5: updates you'll need to stay across the Tour de France

2424
01:58:24,587 --> 01:58:27,107
Speaker 5: coming up. Two forty five. News Talk said, be.

2425
01:58:28,547 --> 01:58:31,507
Speaker 1: Getting the behind the scenes Fintel live from the first

2426
01:58:31,627 --> 01:58:35,227
Speaker 1: All Blacks camp of twenty twenty four. It's weekend sport

2427
01:58:35,347 --> 01:58:39,347
Speaker 1: with Jason Fine and GJ. Gunn the homes New Zealand's

2428
01:58:39,347 --> 01:58:40,587
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

2429
01:58:40,707 --> 01:58:41,587
Speaker 2: News Talk said B.

2430
01:58:42,147 --> 01:58:44,627
Speaker 5: Twelve, wife and three. Not just getting the inside today,

2431
01:58:44,667 --> 01:58:46,667
Speaker 5: but across the week when the All Blacks have been here.

2432
01:58:46,667 --> 01:58:49,787
Speaker 5: They had this season launch on Wednesday and a couple

2433
01:58:49,787 --> 01:58:52,227
Speaker 5: of players, in fact, all of them were floating around,

2434
01:58:52,267 --> 01:58:54,267
Speaker 5: so I sidled up and had a quick chat to

2435
01:58:54,587 --> 01:58:58,827
Speaker 5: Boden Barrett Weekend Sport. Here we are on the side

2436
01:58:58,827 --> 01:59:01,387
Speaker 5: of a new all Black season. Boden, you still get

2437
01:59:01,387 --> 01:59:03,467
Speaker 5: the excitement, do you as you start to think about

2438
01:59:03,467 --> 01:59:04,907
Speaker 5: test rugby. Absolutely?

2439
01:59:05,347 --> 01:59:08,947
Speaker 8: Yeah, It's it's a feeling that never gets old. And

2440
01:59:09,907 --> 01:59:12,347
Speaker 8: there's a certain significance about this one.

2441
01:59:12,907 --> 01:59:15,707
Speaker 5: Obviously many changes.

2442
01:59:17,227 --> 01:59:22,427
Speaker 8: There, bros named as captains and vice captains, and yeah, the.

2443
01:59:22,427 --> 01:59:25,467
Speaker 5: Start of a new cycle. Really so come back.

2444
01:59:25,307 --> 01:59:28,867
Speaker 8: From Japan, many factors, so yeah, just super grateful and

2445
01:59:29,627 --> 01:59:31,387
Speaker 8: proud and excited.

2446
01:59:31,827 --> 01:59:33,307
Speaker 5: How do you reflect on your time in Japan?

2447
01:59:34,107 --> 01:59:37,267
Speaker 8: It was enjoyable, Yeah, and really refreshing from my family,

2448
01:59:38,867 --> 01:59:42,027
Speaker 8: we really had a good chance to breathe and take

2449
01:59:42,067 --> 01:59:44,827
Speaker 8: our time with things and enjoy each other's company and

2450
01:59:46,067 --> 01:59:52,187
Speaker 8: just really enjoy the girls growing up very quickly quickly.

2451
01:59:51,907 --> 01:59:53,947
Speaker 5: That happens made. I can tell you from experience in

2452
01:59:54,067 --> 01:59:55,787
Speaker 5: terms of the rugby you played, you're happy with a

2453
01:59:55,787 --> 01:59:58,147
Speaker 5: standard and you can come back and be ready to

2454
01:59:58,267 --> 02:00:00,827
Speaker 5: go into an All Black scenario. Yeah, like I mean

2455
02:00:01,627 --> 02:00:02,387
Speaker 5: it is what it is.

2456
02:00:02,427 --> 02:00:06,267
Speaker 8: The standard up there is certainly growing and it impressed me.

2457
02:00:06,427 --> 02:00:09,987
Speaker 8: To be fair, there has been a bit of time

2458
02:00:10,027 --> 02:00:12,267
Speaker 8: between games other than a game with Club Rugby, but

2459
02:00:13,427 --> 02:00:16,307
Speaker 8: I hope she'll be able to get enough from training

2460
02:00:17,027 --> 02:00:20,787
Speaker 8: creating the intensity the environment here to prepare us as

2461
02:00:20,787 --> 02:00:23,707
Speaker 8: best as we can. We've got a test match next week.

2462
02:00:23,987 --> 02:00:26,027
Speaker 8: I know we have a good head out on Saturday,

2463
02:00:26,067 --> 02:00:28,307
Speaker 8: but yeah, ten days.

2464
02:00:28,827 --> 02:00:29,987
Speaker 5: What cheers are we looking at here?

2465
02:00:29,987 --> 02:00:30,787
Speaker 6: Mate?

2466
02:00:31,427 --> 02:00:35,427
Speaker 5: That black one with a white collar on does if

2467
02:00:35,427 --> 02:00:36,947
Speaker 5: you turn around there? What's the number on there?

2468
02:00:37,707 --> 02:00:39,267
Speaker 19: I don't know what numbers on. I think it's a

2469
02:00:39,307 --> 02:00:39,787
Speaker 19: blank one.

2470
02:00:41,707 --> 02:00:43,547
Speaker 5: Happy teen, happy fifteen, Happy where you need.

2471
02:00:44,507 --> 02:00:50,227
Speaker 8: We haven't had those conversations. Obviously, happy to be here. Look,

2472
02:00:50,267 --> 02:00:52,867
Speaker 8: I've loved playing with d Mac and Stevie in the past.

2473
02:00:54,027 --> 02:00:56,387
Speaker 8: The coach has had plenty of time and then we'll

2474
02:00:56,387 --> 02:01:00,067
Speaker 8: probably continue to weigh that up, but we'll see.

2475
02:01:00,347 --> 02:01:03,067
Speaker 5: And just on your brothers obviously, you know all Black's

2476
02:01:03,107 --> 02:01:06,747
Speaker 5: captain is no small thing. You look across and see

2477
02:01:06,827 --> 02:01:09,547
Speaker 5: you know your brother Scott with that responsibility. How does

2478
02:01:09,587 --> 02:01:10,747
Speaker 5: that make you feel as his brother?

2479
02:01:10,947 --> 02:01:14,227
Speaker 8: Yeah, super proud, just naturally feel like you want to

2480
02:01:14,227 --> 02:01:16,587
Speaker 8: help him. So that's what I'll be doing and there

2481
02:01:16,627 --> 02:01:21,067
Speaker 8: was no different too previous years with me in my

2482
02:01:21,187 --> 02:01:25,067
Speaker 8: relationship with Sammy Kaine Ardie when he's had that opportunity

2483
02:01:25,067 --> 02:01:28,547
Speaker 8: in the past, so it's no different, but it kind

2484
02:01:28,587 --> 02:01:32,427
Speaker 8: of as a little bit you've got that real deep care. Yeah,

2485
02:01:32,507 --> 02:01:35,147
Speaker 8: that's the actual brother who's the captain. So yeah, just

2486
02:01:35,227 --> 02:01:36,067
Speaker 8: super proud.

2487
02:01:36,187 --> 02:01:38,707
Speaker 5: That is our Boden Barratt speaking at the All Black

2488
02:01:38,747 --> 02:01:41,427
Speaker 5: season launch on Wednesday. The All Blacks here at ends

2489
02:01:41,667 --> 02:01:45,027
Speaker 5: CIS and Upper Hut until Tuesday. They'll fly to Dunedin

2490
02:01:45,107 --> 02:01:48,267
Speaker 5: on Tuesday night. First Test of twenty twenty four, first

2491
02:01:48,307 --> 02:01:52,507
Speaker 5: Test of Raz's tenure is next Saturday night, a week

2492
02:01:52,547 --> 02:01:55,867
Speaker 5: tonight at Forsyth Bar Stadium in Dunedin. We will bring

2493
02:01:55,907 --> 02:01:59,507
Speaker 5: you weekend sport from the venue next Saturday midday to

2494
02:01:59,547 --> 02:02:02,347
Speaker 5: three and our build up starts from six and then

2495
02:02:02,347 --> 02:02:04,907
Speaker 5: our commentary team takes over around ten to seven for

2496
02:02:04,987 --> 02:02:08,027
Speaker 5: kickoff at five par seven. All of it broadcast live

2497
02:02:08,067 --> 02:02:10,987
Speaker 5: here on News Talks, EDB and right across the Test season,

2498
02:02:10,987 --> 02:02:14,467
Speaker 5: we have every All Blacks test live for you eight

2499
02:02:14,467 --> 02:02:15,987
Speaker 5: and a half to three News Talk SAIB.

2500
02:02:16,467 --> 02:02:19,067
Speaker 1: In camp with the All Blacks as they prepare for

2501
02:02:19,107 --> 02:02:23,427
Speaker 1: the season. It's Weekend Sport with Jason Finne and GJ.

2502
02:02:23,667 --> 02:02:27,227
Speaker 1: Garner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder, only on

2503
02:02:27,347 --> 02:02:29,547
Speaker 1: your home of Sport News Talk SEDB.

2504
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Speaker 5: It is two fifty five or thereabouts and that is

2505
02:02:32,827 --> 02:02:36,027
Speaker 5: us for Weeken Sport for today. It has been so

2506
02:02:36,187 --> 02:02:39,467
Speaker 5: good to come here from n zcis. We're between one

2507
02:02:39,467 --> 02:02:43,307
Speaker 5: and two having Rasor robertson here answering your questions, answering

2508
02:02:43,307 --> 02:02:45,147
Speaker 5: some of my questions, giving a bit of an outline

2509
02:02:45,147 --> 02:02:48,587
Speaker 5: of his vision for what lies ahead. I just found

2510
02:02:48,627 --> 02:02:53,267
Speaker 5: it extremely instructive, entertaining, educational. Thank you for taking the

2511
02:02:53,267 --> 02:02:55,707
Speaker 5: time to get in touch and ask Raiser your question.

2512
02:02:55,747 --> 02:02:58,547
Speaker 5: If that's what you decided to do. We'll hopefully get

2513
02:02:58,587 --> 02:03:01,027
Speaker 5: the opportunity to do that again at some stage during

2514
02:03:01,027 --> 02:03:04,027
Speaker 5: the Test season, either with Razor or hopefully with them

2515
02:03:04,067 --> 02:03:06,867
Speaker 5: and maybe with a player or two as well. We'll

2516
02:03:07,067 --> 02:03:10,707
Speaker 5: keep you posted on all developments regarding that look. A

2517
02:03:10,747 --> 02:03:13,147
Speaker 5: quick look ahead to tomorrow's show on Weekend's brought back

2518
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Speaker 5: into the studio, but a couple of cracking guests. Hayden

2519
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Speaker 5: Wilde is with us as he targets a podium finish

2520
02:03:20,027 --> 02:03:23,587
Speaker 5: at the upcoming Paris Olympic Games and as we travel

2521
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Speaker 5: the road to Paris. The latest guest as we look

2522
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Speaker 5: back to fantastic moments from Olympic Games past, is shooter

2523
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Speaker 5: Natalie Rooney, who achieved our highest ever finish in Olympic

2524
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Speaker 5: shooting Whenchy won silver in the trap in Rio in

2525
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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. That and lots more. Huge thanks to Mark

2526
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Speaker 5: Kelly for producing the show. You get the exit song today, Mark,

2527
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Speaker 5: what are you gone with?

2528
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Speaker 11: Sam?

2529
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Speaker 5: This last time?

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Speaker 27: Pine Man? That famous Warriors anthem from two thousand and

2531
02:03:50,707 --> 02:03:54,307
Speaker 27: one sung by Lappie Mariner, whose son Dean Mariner will

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Speaker 27: be wearing the number five jersey for the Brisbane Broncos

2533
02:03:57,187 --> 02:04:00,787
Speaker 27: Tonight Special Night, Heritage Night Special jersey. Old boys there

2534
02:04:00,827 --> 02:04:04,507
Speaker 27: parading at halftime, keeping the faith go, the Warriors.

2535
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Speaker 5: Go, the wis you get along there? Marks, all about

2536
02:04:06,747 --> 02:04:08,707
Speaker 5: it tomorrow and you can tell us about it as well.

2537
02:04:08,707 --> 02:04:11,187
Speaker 5: We'll wrap the Warriors tomorrow on the show Next weekend'spot

2538
02:04:11,227 --> 02:04:17,707
Speaker 5: for Tonight, See you midday tomorrow.

2539
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Speaker 6: What we.

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Speaker 2: For More from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine.

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Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks it Be weekends from midday,

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