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Speaker 3: June Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to News Dogs EDB. Jack

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Speaker 3: Tame with you through the midday today. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to reconfigure the studio this morning. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do it. Actually, it's gonna be an it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a nightmare. Our feature interview after ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: the naked Salmons with us in studio. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: at least four naked salmons. Are they going to be naked?

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Speaker 3: Who knows? Given it? These guys, the lads behind see

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Speaker 3: on his wedding, of course, Brotown. They are getting the

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Speaker 3: band back together. They sort of live all around the

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Speaker 3: world these days. Robbie MUGAs Eva lives in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: but they are here. They are performing on stage together

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Speaker 3: with us after ten o'clock. Before ten, they're going to

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Speaker 3: tell you about this fantastic new film starring Gillian Anderson,

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Speaker 3: she of the X Files fame. You know Scully from

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Speaker 3: film she's in has just hit cinemas, So we'll give

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Speaker 3: you a few more details on that very shortly. Right now,

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Speaker 3: though it is eight minutes past nine, two hundred and

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Speaker 3: ten days ago, I was blinking into the sun at

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Speaker 3: go Media Stadium as Auckland FC strode out onto the

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Speaker 3: pitch for their first ever A League game. The club

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Speaker 3: was owned by a billion and the team's style of

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Speaker 3: play wasn't immediately super alluring. In fact, their very first

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Speaker 3: goal in the club's professional history came courtesy of an

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Speaker 3: opposition player who lashed it into the back of the net.

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Speaker 3: I think I knew about two of the players, maybe,

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Speaker 3: so I had to keep on cross checking the action

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Speaker 3: on the pitch with my game day program. So upon reflection,

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Speaker 3: there were plenty of reasons why Auckland FC might not

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Speaker 3: have taken off with fans quite as they have. And yet,

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Speaker 3: and yet here we are, seven months on in the

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Speaker 3: semi finals of the A League, the crunchy end of

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Speaker 3: the season for the team that has consistently drawn the

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Speaker 3: biggest crowds in the competition. I can confirm this morning,

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Speaker 3: and I never thought I would say this, I've crossed

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Speaker 3: a sporting threshold of sorts. As much as I still

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Speaker 3: love the Crusaders and we'll always love the Crusaders, Auckland

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Speaker 3: FC is my sporting priority each and every week. I

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Speaker 3: know I've talked before about how much the club kind

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Speaker 3: of nails the match day experience. And let's not kid

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Speaker 3: ourselves and imagine that the season would have been quite

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Speaker 3: the same if they hadn't been winning. But given they

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Speaker 3: started from nothing, it's also notable the extent to which

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Speaker 3: the club has actively tried to build and nurture a

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Speaker 3: fan base. It has been deliberate, and it's taken elbow

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Speaker 3: grease think about it. It can't be easy to kind

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Speaker 3: of snap your fingers and try and build a culture

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Speaker 3: and a fan base overnight. But the club has held, however,

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Speaker 3: many meet and greets. They've had an enduring outreach program

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Speaker 3: with local football clubs. They've held training days for kids

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Speaker 3: and even made an appearance at my mate's local school

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Speaker 3: fate last weekend. They've had autograph sessions and sponsor gigs,

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Speaker 3: and even shipped the regular season trophy around corporate offices

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Speaker 3: in downtown Auckland over the last fortnight, including this one.

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Speaker 3: As an organization, Auckland f C has hustled, and I

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Speaker 3: it's paid off. However, many times this season when the

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Speaker 3: apart from the captain, Hiroki Sakai, no one was really

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Speaker 3: a first, but knockout foot all is a different kind

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Speaker 3: of pressure. That's a home and away Seemi of course

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Speaker 3: don't know, it just feels kind of like a bit

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Speaker 3: sport can be cruel. Winning the Premier's Plate does not

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Speaker 3: many others, in a few short months, I've come to

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Speaker 3: I now know the respective club histories of players who

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Speaker 3: is our greatest strength. Paulson Hall Sarki Smith Pineket that

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Speaker 3: Louis Vastrata blends a technical finesse with an enthusiasm for

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Speaker 3: That Francis Devrees will always whip a ridiculously good delivery,

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Speaker 3: And because your momma is just waiting to lash it

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Speaker 3: in with that left foot, I know how lucky we

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Speaker 3: are to have had this season, how good it is

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Speaker 3: for New Zealand football, and seven months since that first

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Speaker 3: I know we can win. Jack tab ninety two. Ninety

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Speaker 3: this morning. Ganesh Raj is with us with his humble

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Speaker 3: Yum yum fishcake recipe that he will share for this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Next up, Kevin Milnson thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame,

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Speaker 3: It's Saturday morning. This is Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 1: No bitter way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 3: MB sixteen past nine. Peter on the email says Jack

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Speaker 3: nailed it, and I similarly feel a little bit nervous

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Speaker 3: about having had a week off and the team going

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Speaker 3: It'll all payoff next week though I sold out Go

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Speaker 3: a message ninety two ninety two if you there's the

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Speaker 3: this morning, Calder Kevin Kern.

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Speaker 4: A question.

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Speaker 5: If AFC do win, Yeah, will they their players be

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Speaker 5: opened being poached from all over the world.

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Speaker 3: Well, most of them have resigned for next season already.

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Speaker 3: Good question, very good question. So the majority of the

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Speaker 3: team has been re signed. And so we know, for

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Speaker 3: the goalkeeper.

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Speaker 6: The guy you stole off as well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Have we stole them off Bournemouth, didn't we?

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Speaker 3: Kevin No, Look, it's all in the interest of New

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Speaker 6: Kevin yes.

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Speaker 3: And but he but he yes, he's he's going to

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Speaker 3: be gone. So that's a big loss for the team,

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Speaker 3: just as there was a big loss for you. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think most of the most of the other players

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Speaker 3: FC with a couple of exceptions. So yeah, but it

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Speaker 3: must be tricky, you know, and and I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of them probably aren't earning megabucks,

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Speaker 3: and so you know, you come into an unfamiliar team,

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Speaker 3: you're not earning megabucks, all of a sudden you have

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Speaker 3: an unexpectedly good season. You can imagine that it would

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Speaker 7: But yes, yeah, yeah, anyway, I hope they do when

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Speaker 7: I might be more of a Phoenix fan myself, but

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Speaker 7: they're certainly the AFC really really exciting and get the

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Speaker 7: hopefully get the whole country simple.

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Speaker 3: Oh totally poor. Yeah, look, I actually love the things

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's got to be good for New Zealand

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Speaker 3: football anyway, Keven. You want to remark on a special

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Speaker 3: Kiwi quality this week, Kiwi's generosity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Two weeks ago and I spent the weekend in christ

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Speaker 5: Church with two of its remarkable citizens, doctors Phil and

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Speaker 5: doctor Sue Bagshaw. Phil Bagshaw's The Surgeon, has set up

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Speaker 5: the groundbreaking Canterbury Charity Hospital It just grows and grows,

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Speaker 5: and Sue's seeing her dream come true. The completion of

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Speaker 5: looking for help and a home. She's been working on

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Speaker 5: this for years. The couple's selflessness and energy is just astonishing.

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Speaker 5: Sue's now Dame Susan Bagshaw and her husband Phil Well,

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Speaker 5: he's just a companion of the New Zealand Leader of

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Speaker 5: merit and a New Zealander of the Year. You might

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Speaker 5: recognize their surname. Their heroic son Andrew was killed in Ukraine,

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Speaker 5: a volunteer helping the local shelter from bonds. They will

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Speaker 5: tell you that their impressive projects are the result of

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Speaker 5: extraordinary generosity from others. With funds spare the Canterbury Charity

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Speaker 5: Hospital refuses to accept government money. It doesn't want pipers

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Speaker 5: calling the tune. Then how do you get the millions?

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Speaker 5: I asked, Phil replies, it's not that difficult. Actually, lots

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Speaker 5: of New Zealanders are extraordinarily generous. Now back home here

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Speaker 5: telling me about a local fundraising project, the Rotary Club

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Speaker 5: and the Lions combining for the first time anywhere in

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Speaker 5: New Zealand. They want not just cash but expertise to

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Speaker 5: build a mini golf course here. It'll be a beauty.

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Speaker 5: I've sent the pictures of it with bunkers and having

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Speaker 5: like that. It's and once it's up and going, all

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Speaker 5: proceeds will go to our needy community about one hundred

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Speaker 5: and fifty thousand dollars a year according to projections. I

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Speaker 5: asked it, how's the fundraising going. Can't be easy, he replied,

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Speaker 5: it's unbelievable. These are a tough time, but we've already

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Speaker 5: raised two hundred thousand dollars. The Council's giving us the

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Speaker 5: land mills. Helbert's doing their contracting. Free work starts in September.

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Speaker 5: The generosity, he said, of New Zealanders is phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: I wish you could talk.

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Speaker 8: About it on the radio.

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Speaker 5: So here we are Jack talking about it on the radio.

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Speaker 5: Kiwi generosity. We're a bloody good country, aren't we.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's amazing, isn't it. When you hear those

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Speaker 3: from people, you realize that there are so many Kiwis

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Speaker 3: who do dig deep despite these kind of trying times

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Speaker 3: and trying economic times. Yeah, that's good to hear.

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Speaker 5: A yeah, it is at both levels. The corporate level

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Speaker 5: obviously that they have to kick in, yeah, and little

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Speaker 5: and down that there would be more in the christ

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Speaker 5: Church situations here, but down here, up here in Cavity,

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Speaker 5: you've got lots of little businesses throwing man into it,

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Speaker 5: and lots of slightly bigger businesses saying well, well, actually

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Speaker 5: do a whole bunch of work for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's so good.

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Speaker 5: And yeah an individuals giving money, I think it's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to Auckland FC. Most were strangers to you at

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 3: Twenty five past nine on News Talks EDB. Don't worry,

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Speaker 3: I'm still watching plenty of Super rugby. So that last

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Speaker 6: Jack good morning. Wasn't Roy Guard sensational?

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Speaker 6: The Highlanders came to play typical Jamie Joseph type staunch defense.

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Speaker 6: Then the Crusaders went out and smoked the Warrtars. The

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Speaker 3: Yeah, goat to see Warriors this evening. What five pm

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Five o'clock? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think for the Warriors, although with James Fisher Harris back,

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Speaker 3: So my little pick, if I was in Steve Coriker's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my goodness. Hey, thanks Sev. Appreciate it as always

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Speaker 3: So if you want to read that Inzia Herald dot

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Speaker 3: to get your film picks for this weekend. Francesca Radkin,

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Speaker 3: our film reviewer, is here this morning. Hey Francisca, good morning. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we've got two films, both of them showing in cinemas

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 8: Five hundred miles?

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Speaker 10: Oh like six hundred?

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Speaker 3: Are you walking the path? It's a long old hike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, retired homeless actually here ready, arms of my legs,

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Speaker 3: This has the great. Jillian Anderson and Jason Isaacs tell

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Speaker 11: Oh, well, you know that I love a good walk,

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Speaker 3: Are you usually run your walks? That's the difference. Yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely beautiful up in the way taxes this morning. Something

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Speaker 3: I mean, what to have? Ridiculous to even start off

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Speaker 3: with with a brag like that, You've already you've already

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Speaker 3: Is she's gone? I'm probably she's probably done, like a

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Speaker 3: An oxymoron a short ten.

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Speaker 11: Now look to the film, so but it will make

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Speaker 11: the Southwest Coast Path in southwest England, six hundred and

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Speaker 11: and they're living on a benefit which is forty pounds

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Speaker 10: What they're going to do and hard they're going to survive.

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Speaker 11: And they come up with this idea they'll go. They'll

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Speaker 11: Win and Moth are the names of these people. This

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Speaker 11: she wrote about the Walk, and so it's based on

433
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Speaker 11: a true story. Moth has also just been had a

434
00:23:29,653 --> 00:23:32,413
Speaker 11: terminal diagnosis and he's actually really struggling to walk. So

435
00:23:32,453 --> 00:23:35,733
Speaker 11: he's got this kind of very very rare disease and

436
00:23:35,773 --> 00:23:38,253
Speaker 11: things and it's terminal and things don't look good, and

437
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:42,013
Speaker 11: yet they still go, this is our only option. Beautiful

438
00:23:42,013 --> 00:23:44,933
Speaker 11: performances by the two. There is absolutely no vanity in

439
00:23:44,973 --> 00:23:47,613
Speaker 11: their portrayal of these characters. You know they are just

440
00:23:48,013 --> 00:23:52,173
Speaker 11: you see them become very wind blowing and sun burnt

441
00:23:52,213 --> 00:23:55,093
Speaker 11: as you would expect. The scenery is beautiful as you

442
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Speaker 11: would expect. But what I loved about this story is

443
00:23:58,093 --> 00:24:00,653
Speaker 11: it's kind of really it's a bit of a love story.

444
00:24:00,693 --> 00:24:03,493
Speaker 11: Actually it's very touching. It's about two people who find

445
00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:08,013
Speaker 11: themselves in a really difficult situation who embrace their adversity

446
00:24:08,293 --> 00:24:09,893
Speaker 11: and kind of get on with it. And you see

447
00:24:09,933 --> 00:24:13,693
Speaker 11: all the nuances of this challenge. You see the physical difficulties,

448
00:24:13,733 --> 00:24:16,173
Speaker 11: you see it, you know, obviously homelessness, and then when

449
00:24:16,253 --> 00:24:19,173
Speaker 11: winter arrives, the helplessness they feel when it comes to

450
00:24:19,213 --> 00:24:21,413
Speaker 11: their children and not being there for them, and the

451
00:24:21,453 --> 00:24:25,453
Speaker 11: hopelessness of their situation. And as time goes by, you know,

452
00:24:25,613 --> 00:24:30,013
Speaker 11: walking they sort of become at one with nature, they

453
00:24:30,133 --> 00:24:32,693
Speaker 11: learn about themselves, and they even though they take a

454
00:24:32,693 --> 00:24:34,773
Speaker 11: break over winter, they kind of look at each other

455
00:24:34,853 --> 00:24:37,373
Speaker 11: and go, actually, we need to be on this We

456
00:24:37,413 --> 00:24:39,293
Speaker 11: need to be walking, We need to be on this path.

457
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Speaker 13: So not the.

458
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Speaker 11: Scenery does do a lot of work for this film,

459
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Speaker 11: but I think it's the performances that draw you in

460
00:24:45,093 --> 00:24:45,853
Speaker 11: on this journey.

461
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Speaker 3: Really stibulous, Okay, great, okay, And that's the salt path.

462
00:24:48,453 --> 00:24:50,573
Speaker 3: I do love Julian Anderson, so that.

463
00:24:52,533 --> 00:24:53,613
Speaker 11: She's beautiful in us.

464
00:24:53,733 --> 00:24:55,213
Speaker 8: She really is fantastic.

465
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Speaker 3: Okay. So that's the salt path that showing in cinemas.

466
00:24:57,853 --> 00:25:03,373
Speaker 3: Also showing in cinemas something completely different Final Destination bloodlines.

467
00:25:06,973 --> 00:25:09,173
Speaker 14: You don't get to pick the one you get, just

468
00:25:09,213 --> 00:25:14,093
Speaker 14: got to love the one you got.

469
00:25:10,453 --> 00:25:17,253
Speaker 15: It Death is coming for our family.

470
00:25:21,173 --> 00:25:25,933
Speaker 3: Right, well it sounds yeah yeah.

471
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Speaker 11: So normally by the time you get to a sixth

472
00:25:28,533 --> 00:25:32,613
Speaker 11: film and a franchise, Jack, I'm losing interesting, Yeah, But interestingly,

473
00:25:32,733 --> 00:25:35,613
Speaker 11: there might just be life in this franchise.

474
00:25:35,733 --> 00:25:35,973
Speaker 8: Yet.

475
00:25:36,973 --> 00:25:38,253
Speaker 10: This is the sixth film.

476
00:25:38,293 --> 00:25:41,213
Speaker 11: It's been going for twenty five years. It's been fourteen

477
00:25:41,293 --> 00:25:44,333
Speaker 11: years without a new movie, so I was quite intrigued

478
00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:46,013
Speaker 11: to see what they did here. And I wouldn't call

479
00:25:46,093 --> 00:25:48,893
Speaker 11: it so much a reboot, but they have kind of

480
00:25:48,933 --> 00:25:51,293
Speaker 11: tried to put a bit of a twist on the formula,

481
00:25:52,053 --> 00:25:55,013
Speaker 11: the Final Destination formula, and they've also kind of the

482
00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:58,413
Speaker 11: films have often always been brewed standalone, but they have

483
00:25:58,573 --> 00:26:01,613
Speaker 11: made some lovely connections here back to previous films, but

484
00:26:01,653 --> 00:26:03,653
Speaker 11: you don't need to have seen any of them. It

485
00:26:03,693 --> 00:26:07,213
Speaker 11: opens in the sixties. This young couple head to this

486
00:26:07,453 --> 00:26:10,613
Speaker 11: new Skyview restaurant, which is like the Skytarer in Aukland.

487
00:26:10,613 --> 00:26:12,373
Speaker 11: They're going up the elevator and they're told that the

488
00:26:12,453 --> 00:26:15,653
Speaker 11: tower was completed ahead of time, which makes Iris a

489
00:26:15,653 --> 00:26:16,493
Speaker 11: little bit concerned.

490
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:19,293
Speaker 10: That maybe that's not such a good thing, and as

491
00:26:19,293 --> 00:26:19,773
Speaker 10: the night.

492
00:26:19,613 --> 00:26:23,093
Speaker 11: Wears on, the dance for in this restaurant gives way jack,

493
00:26:23,253 --> 00:26:26,413
Speaker 11: leading to the most gruesome series of deaths as the

494
00:26:26,453 --> 00:26:29,333
Speaker 11: tower collapses. And I should probably say at this point, look,

495
00:26:29,373 --> 00:26:32,413
Speaker 11: the Final Destination films are all about how a small

496
00:26:32,453 --> 00:26:34,973
Speaker 11: series of events like flipping a coin off the top

497
00:26:35,013 --> 00:26:38,813
Speaker 11: of this tower can lead to massive traumatic accidences and

498
00:26:39,053 --> 00:26:44,613
Speaker 11: accidents and you know, and they are known for very creative,

499
00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:48,813
Speaker 11: gruesome death. This film loves to be gory but also

500
00:26:49,053 --> 00:26:52,533
Speaker 11: really funny, and death is kind of a main unseen

501
00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:54,813
Speaker 11: character in these films, so that's kind of that's the

502
00:26:54,853 --> 00:26:57,653
Speaker 11: way they roll. But this restaurant scene is both a

503
00:26:57,733 --> 00:26:59,133
Speaker 11: premonition and a dream.

504
00:26:59,693 --> 00:27:00,213
Speaker 10: A dream.

505
00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:03,853
Speaker 11: So Iris has this premonition in the sixties and she

506
00:27:03,973 --> 00:27:08,013
Speaker 11: saves all these people, but her granddaughter Stefani, many years later,

507
00:27:08,173 --> 00:27:10,613
Speaker 11: is having the same dream as well. And what happens

508
00:27:10,693 --> 00:27:13,613
Speaker 11: is that if you cheat death, death does not forget

509
00:27:13,653 --> 00:27:17,253
Speaker 11: that and death will come after you. And Stefani, like

510
00:27:17,333 --> 00:27:20,373
Speaker 11: her grandmother, Iris, can see it in the universe and

511
00:27:20,413 --> 00:27:23,253
Speaker 11: feel death coming. Oh it's totally batty and just great fun.

512
00:27:24,133 --> 00:27:27,453
Speaker 11: So she works out the Iris, Yeah, so Iris didn't die,

513
00:27:27,493 --> 00:27:29,613
Speaker 11: but now the whole family does have to die, and

514
00:27:29,653 --> 00:27:31,213
Speaker 11: they have to stop trying and find a way to

515
00:27:31,213 --> 00:27:34,373
Speaker 11: prevent that from happening. They have to cheat death again. Look,

516
00:27:34,493 --> 00:27:38,493
Speaker 11: once again, the deaths are ghastly, really imaginative. I laughed

517
00:27:38,613 --> 00:27:43,013
Speaker 11: as much as I kind of flail barms around the

518
00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:45,653
Speaker 11: fright in this film. There's as many frights as there

519
00:27:45,653 --> 00:27:47,493
Speaker 11: are laughs. And actually, I'm going to give them some

520
00:27:47,533 --> 00:27:49,253
Speaker 11: credit here. I think they've actually done a really good

521
00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:52,693
Speaker 11: job of bringing, you know, bringing this bringing this franchise

522
00:27:52,773 --> 00:27:55,773
Speaker 11: back and entertaining the audience who have loved it for

523
00:27:55,813 --> 00:27:57,133
Speaker 11: twenty five yearsh.

524
00:27:56,773 --> 00:28:01,013
Speaker 3: Oh, very good. Okay, that's Final Destination, blood Lines, Francisca's

525
00:28:01,013 --> 00:28:03,413
Speaker 3: first film, The Salt Path. Both of those are in

526
00:28:03,453 --> 00:28:04,973
Speaker 3: cinemas at the moment, and we'll put all of the

527
00:28:05,013 --> 00:28:07,493
Speaker 3: details up on the new talks Hedb website. Thank you,

528
00:28:07,533 --> 00:28:09,613
Speaker 3: franch Eska. You will let you just go and I

529
00:28:09,653 --> 00:28:12,133
Speaker 3: don't know, do an ultramarathon this afternoon or something just

530
00:28:12,373 --> 00:28:16,893
Speaker 3: really casual and chill like that. Oh, she's gone, there's it,

531
00:28:17,253 --> 00:28:19,813
Speaker 3: she's on the track. You said, this is the problem.

532
00:28:20,493 --> 00:28:23,813
Speaker 3: Don't forget if you feel like I don't know maybe

533
00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:28,453
Speaker 3: after watching Final Destination Bloodlines you feel like something just

534
00:28:28,493 --> 00:28:31,453
Speaker 3: a little bit different. The French Film Festival is kicking

535
00:28:31,493 --> 00:28:33,693
Speaker 3: off later this month from Keddy Kendy to Duned and

536
00:28:33,733 --> 00:28:35,533
Speaker 3: there are going to be twenty three films showing in

537
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Speaker 3: the festival this year, from thrillers, dramas, comedies and you

538
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Speaker 3: can win tickets. So if you go to news STORKSHDB

539
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Speaker 3: dot co dot nz forward slash Win, you can enter

540
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Speaker 3: there and find out a bit more information about the

541
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Speaker 3: French Film Festival twenty twenty five. Ganesh Raj with his

542
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Speaker 3: humble Yum Yum fishcake recipe for us next at seventeen

543
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Speaker 3: to ten.

544
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Speaker 1: Saturday mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

545
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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpure dot co dot inst for high

546
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Speaker 1: quality Supplements used talks EDB.

547
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Speaker 3: It is quarter to ten on newstalks 'b in person

548
00:29:07,693 --> 00:29:12,013
Speaker 3: lighting up our morning. Ganish Raj has brought well first

549
00:29:12,053 --> 00:29:14,693
Speaker 3: of all, brought a delicious looking a little snacks mate,

550
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Speaker 3: So thank you very much someone I appreciate that. Hey,

551
00:29:19,613 --> 00:29:21,933
Speaker 3: you have a couple of interesting little projects going on

552
00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:23,853
Speaker 3: at the moment. So before we get to your humble

553
00:29:23,893 --> 00:29:25,973
Speaker 3: yum young fishcakes, just tell us first of all about

554
00:29:25,973 --> 00:29:27,293
Speaker 3: the Humble Yum Young project.

555
00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:30,413
Speaker 16: Yes, absolutely so. The Humble Yum Yum project kicked off

556
00:29:30,933 --> 00:29:33,213
Speaker 16: when itat Well for Less launched in twenty nineteen.

557
00:29:33,213 --> 00:29:35,133
Speaker 3: There was season one, right, and then.

558
00:29:34,973 --> 00:29:38,973
Speaker 16: We rolled into COVID right right, Yeah, and then the

559
00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:42,013
Speaker 16: episode came out. The season came out, people were home,

560
00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:43,133
Speaker 16: they watched.

561
00:29:42,813 --> 00:29:44,693
Speaker 3: It, they loved it. Yeah.

562
00:29:44,813 --> 00:29:46,373
Speaker 16: I didn't know whether they loved it because they were

563
00:29:46,453 --> 00:29:48,293
Speaker 16: you know, locked in the houses.

564
00:29:48,493 --> 00:29:50,253
Speaker 3: Or they loved I was gonna say, you never know.

565
00:29:50,573 --> 00:29:53,693
Speaker 3: For those lines that we saw outside the supermarket, nobody.

566
00:29:53,373 --> 00:29:55,373
Speaker 16: Asked them to buy all the flower. I did not

567
00:29:55,533 --> 00:29:58,213
Speaker 16: do that. Nobody said buy all the flower. But anyway,

568
00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:00,893
Speaker 16: what I learned through the first round, which we had

569
00:30:00,893 --> 00:30:04,013
Speaker 16: like thousands of applications, was how little people understood about

570
00:30:04,053 --> 00:30:05,573
Speaker 16: food and how to put a meal together.

571
00:30:05,693 --> 00:30:06,373
Speaker 3: Yeah.

572
00:30:06,373 --> 00:30:08,213
Speaker 16: That was the thing that was resonating and then meeting

573
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Speaker 16: these families. I'm from Southeast Asia. I come from a

574
00:30:12,573 --> 00:30:15,053
Speaker 16: part of the world where cooking in one pan is normal.

575
00:30:15,093 --> 00:30:17,093
Speaker 16: In fact, four fifth of the planet cooks on one

576
00:30:17,093 --> 00:30:19,693
Speaker 16: pan every day. The oldest cultures in the world do right,

577
00:30:19,773 --> 00:30:22,693
Speaker 16: you know that, And it's delicious food. So I thought

578
00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:24,693
Speaker 16: all right, this idea of being able to cook for

579
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Speaker 16: under twenty bucks for four, which is backyard cooking for me,

580
00:30:28,173 --> 00:30:30,653
Speaker 16: how about I go there? And then all of a

581
00:30:30,693 --> 00:30:33,573
Speaker 16: sudden I started to realize that I had to create

582
00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:35,333
Speaker 16: the content. So I built a studio in my basement

583
00:30:35,853 --> 00:30:39,053
Speaker 16: and made the humble Yum Yum YouTube channel, which stands

584
00:30:39,053 --> 00:30:41,413
Speaker 16: for twenty bucks for four using one pan, one pot,

585
00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:43,213
Speaker 16: global food that doesn't cost the world.

586
00:30:43,293 --> 00:30:47,813
Speaker 3: That's so good twenty bucks for four. Say really, well,

587
00:30:47,893 --> 00:30:48,733
Speaker 3: let's put it this way.

588
00:30:48,893 --> 00:30:52,853
Speaker 16: So now I say under thirty four that's the truth.

589
00:30:52,893 --> 00:30:55,013
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's that's the true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

590
00:30:55,093 --> 00:30:56,693
Speaker 3: especially if you've got proteins in there.

591
00:30:56,653 --> 00:30:59,653
Speaker 16: Right, absolutely, And sometimes there's twenty five, which brings me

592
00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:02,413
Speaker 16: to these fish cakes you have here today, right. So

593
00:31:02,533 --> 00:31:05,053
Speaker 16: the idea behind the humble Yum yum is get rid

594
00:31:05,093 --> 00:31:09,413
Speaker 16: of all the reconceived ideas of things chicken in a

595
00:31:09,493 --> 00:31:12,093
Speaker 16: can yuck, frozen fish yuck.

596
00:31:13,733 --> 00:31:15,093
Speaker 3: Will you please have a biito? Yeah?

597
00:31:15,093 --> 00:31:16,813
Speaker 16: Absolutely, And I'm gonna tell the story and then you're

598
00:31:16,813 --> 00:31:19,133
Speaker 16: gonna tell me what you're tasting. Okay, So these so

599
00:31:19,173 --> 00:31:20,253
Speaker 16: these are still warm?

600
00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:20,853
Speaker 3: Yes, sir?

601
00:31:21,253 --> 00:31:26,093
Speaker 16: Oh my god, I'm a service human. Oh my god right, bro, god,

602
00:31:26,253 --> 00:31:30,133
Speaker 16: yeah they are they are really good. There, take a moment,

603
00:31:30,413 --> 00:31:35,013
Speaker 16: I'll talk you eat yeah, please, But anyway, it's twelve

604
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:38,533
Speaker 16: dollars for four people, so five in a portion, which

605
00:31:38,573 --> 00:31:41,293
Speaker 16: is what you have. I have four more, three more

606
00:31:41,293 --> 00:31:41,933
Speaker 16: sitting at home.

607
00:31:42,093 --> 00:31:42,813
Speaker 3: My gosh.

608
00:31:43,253 --> 00:31:47,573
Speaker 16: And the fish is frozen basa which I defrosted last night,

609
00:31:47,613 --> 00:31:49,413
Speaker 16: which is seven dollars.

610
00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:52,613
Speaker 3: For four people. It's very good value. Yeah, you didn't care, no, no, no, no, wrong,

611
00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:55,213
Speaker 3: most delicious. Right, you didn't care, nong.

612
00:31:55,253 --> 00:31:57,333
Speaker 16: So my whole thing is like, let's help people get

613
00:31:57,373 --> 00:32:00,333
Speaker 16: over the hump of things that are already in the supermarket.

614
00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:03,253
Speaker 16: We have no food insecurity. We have a little bit

615
00:32:03,253 --> 00:32:06,613
Speaker 16: of food ignorance. Yeah, and so I say, by learning

616
00:32:06,613 --> 00:32:09,053
Speaker 16: how to cook stuff, you are free from the clutches

617
00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:13,053
Speaker 16: of high prices supermarkets.

618
00:32:12,493 --> 00:32:13,653
Speaker 3: Like take some of the power back.

619
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

620
00:32:14,133 --> 00:32:16,893
Speaker 3: I think it's such an important message and timely message.

621
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Speaker 3: So do you want to do the recent people, or

622
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Speaker 3: should we talk about some of the other things that

623
00:32:20,893 --> 00:32:22,293
Speaker 3: you're trying to work on at the moment When it

624
00:32:22,333 --> 00:32:25,853
Speaker 3: comes to a bit of a shift around nutrition and

625
00:32:25,893 --> 00:32:28,373
Speaker 3: the way otherwise in which you're helping people to understand

626
00:32:28,413 --> 00:32:29,213
Speaker 3: the food they're reading.

627
00:32:29,493 --> 00:32:31,933
Speaker 16: I think let's do that because we're about to go

628
00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:34,693
Speaker 16: season five in August.

629
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Speaker 3: Well for less my gosh, it's coming out.

630
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Speaker 16: So over the past five seasons more has been learned. Right,

631
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:43,133
Speaker 16: We're just constantly learning, learning learning learning New Zealand what

632
00:32:43,213 --> 00:32:45,853
Speaker 16: you're thinking, what can you afford? And of course over

633
00:32:45,853 --> 00:32:47,973
Speaker 16: those five years, prices have been doing what they've been doing.

634
00:32:48,733 --> 00:32:50,133
Speaker 3: So I'm just.

635
00:32:50,133 --> 00:32:55,253
Speaker 16: Learning that, you know, people need to know more than

636
00:32:55,613 --> 00:32:58,373
Speaker 16: just cooking. So now we're really pushing read the back

637
00:32:58,413 --> 00:33:02,573
Speaker 16: of the box, really really understand. Understand that no one's

638
00:33:02,613 --> 00:33:04,453
Speaker 16: going to tell you what's on the back of the box.

639
00:33:04,493 --> 00:33:06,693
Speaker 16: No one's going to explain any of that too, because

640
00:33:06,693 --> 00:33:08,573
Speaker 16: they've done their legal job of putting it on the.

641
00:33:08,573 --> 00:33:09,253
Speaker 3: Back of the box.

642
00:33:09,893 --> 00:33:12,093
Speaker 16: But you have to educate yourself a bit more because

643
00:33:12,133 --> 00:33:15,693
Speaker 16: heart disease, diabetes, fat these are things that are increasing

644
00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:18,533
Speaker 16: in our country and so we have to take a

645
00:33:18,533 --> 00:33:21,333
Speaker 16: little bit of responsibility. We cannot say why don't you

646
00:33:21,373 --> 00:33:21,773
Speaker 16: tell us?

647
00:33:21,813 --> 00:33:22,093
Speaker 3: Now?

648
00:33:22,853 --> 00:33:28,213
Speaker 16: I'm I'm hosting this webinar for a sugar tax levy

649
00:33:28,373 --> 00:33:31,773
Speaker 16: webinar international thing. Why am I doing it? I'm trying

650
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Speaker 16: to lean into this space to understand more about it right,

651
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Speaker 16: what it actually takes. There's a case study out of

652
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Speaker 16: Mexico that profit is coming, which is why I'm most excited.

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Speaker 16: She got legislation passed that didn't have a tax because

654
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Speaker 16: taxes just passed on. You don't know that, so we

655
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Speaker 16: won't do that. But it had like really big stickers

656
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Speaker 16: like they did on cigarette pats that said high sugar warning.

657
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Speaker 16: Just another wall for you to think before you buy

658
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Speaker 16: because Mexico.

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Speaker 3: For people who don't know Mexico, I had like one

660
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Speaker 3: of it's not the highest obesity rates in the world, right, absolutely.

661
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Speaker 16: And we are not far no, And we don't have

662
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Speaker 16: a food culture that promotes, you know, a more protein

663
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Speaker 16: and vegetable diet as a culture, we don't have that.

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Speaker 16: We have a fast food culture. We have a convenience

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Speaker 16: food culture, so we're uphill all day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So the only way is to help people with some

668
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Speaker 16: clearer messaging. So I'm trying to lean into the messaging space.

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Speaker 16: I don't know, Like the back of the pack of

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Speaker 16: chicken nuggets. It still surprises me how people look at

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Speaker 16: it and when I tell them it's only fifty two

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Speaker 16: percent chicken. The rest of it's soy filler. They're like

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Speaker 16: what yeah, And I'm like it's right there, and I'm

674
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Speaker 16: so sorry to burst your bubble, but listen, man, and

675
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Speaker 16: Whole Chicken's fourteen dollars, you just bought five hundred grams

676
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Speaker 16: of pre fried salted high ingredients list. I don't even

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Speaker 16: know how to say it.

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Speaker 3: It's the when you see the numbers, I'm like, it's

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Speaker 3: like a I don't recognize that as actually being a food.

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Speaker 16: I call it Chernobyl. Yeah, it's the Chernobyl formula whatever.

681
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Speaker 16: It's like even the back of the instant.

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Speaker 3: No, the instant. Yeah, that's like nuclear ways. Oh yeah,

683
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Speaker 3: that's but it's so delicious. Something that's so good. Yeah,

684
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Speaker 3: the little flavor nuclear waste.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's nuclear waste, but I get it once a week,

686
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Speaker 16: go for it, but don't be the family that rolls

687
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Speaker 16: it out three times a day or.

688
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's all up. Yeah, So that is a very important.

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Speaker 16: So trying to get people to have less sugar is important,

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Speaker 16: you know. So I'm starting to lean into that space

691
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Speaker 16: and then educating young people. I'm going down to Wellington

692
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Speaker 16: soon to try and talk to teachers about how I'm

693
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Speaker 16: building a humble, young, young young person's program right, because

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Speaker 16: I feel like every time I meet eleven, twelve and

695
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Speaker 16: thirteen year olds, they're buzzing, they love to cook, they're interested.

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Speaker 16: So my classes involve a parent and a student. I

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Speaker 16: run them right now. The Otato Scorpions Rugby Club courtesy

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Speaker 16: of Sousea's Healthcare Peace. But the good news is you

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Speaker 16: learn from that. Yeah, and I'm not I want to

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Speaker 16: go to schools now. So I'm working with about six

701
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Speaker 16: schools in South Auckland to try and them together so

702
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Speaker 16: we can run these and learn and meet people where

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Speaker 16: they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's kind of the Okay, So what

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Speaker 3: we're gonna do is we're gonna put your humble, young

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Speaker 3: young fish cakes up on news. It is like, there's

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Speaker 3: properly delicious and honestly, the ingredients are so easy. So

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Speaker 3: you've got a little bit of carry paste. Yeah there

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Speaker 3: buster fish that you mentioned, that's correct, cornflower green beans,

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Speaker 3: fish sauce or sauce sauce, a little bit of lime

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Speaker 3: of lemon juice, a little bit of coriander as well

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Speaker 3: if you want, cucumber if you want, but a sweet

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Speaker 3: chili sauce.

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Speaker 16: Chili and some rice on the side. The beans in

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Speaker 16: the middle and that's ninety five. That's one hundred and

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Speaker 16: twenty five grams of protein proportion.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you speak to someone who like looks like he

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Speaker 3: measures his protest.

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Speaker 16: But I'm just saying, like value for money, No, one

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Speaker 16: just like value for money. I know macros are boring.

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Speaker 3: No, that's wonderful. Thank you so much, thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me man when we will put gunishes humble, young

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Speaker 3: young fishcake up at news storks heb dot co dot inze.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoopa on all you need to

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Speaker 1: know Saturday mornings with Jack Dame and vpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot nz for high quality supplements news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be okay. Just trying to keep you up to speed.

728
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Speaker 3: With Ryan Fox in the PGA Championship. So he has

729
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Speaker 3: finished his round. I believe he's now four under so

730
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Speaker 3: he was even for his round today, which means that

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Speaker 3: he's tied for sixth place at the moment, which is

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Speaker 3: not a bad day, giving head a couple of burgies, bogies,

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Speaker 3: a couple of bogies early on and then obviously brought

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Speaker 3: things back. So yeah, tie for six at the moment

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Speaker 3: in the PGA Championship. After ten o'clock our feature interview

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Speaker 3: right after the news, The Naked Psalm Morns. These guys

737
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Speaker 3: have been performing together four years. They are hilarious, of course,

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Speaker 3: the creative geniuses behind the likes of Brotown AND's Wedding,

739
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Speaker 3: but they haven't been on stage together in quite some time. Now,

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Speaker 3: courtesy of a bit of a group chat, they've arranged

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Speaker 3: to perform on stage as the Naked Salmons at the

742
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Speaker 3: Comedy Festival, which kicks off this week. So they're going

743
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Speaker 3: to be with us in studio to tell us a

744
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Speaker 3: little bit about this show. I wonder what their I

745
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Speaker 3: wonder what their their group chat is like. Probably not

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Speaker 3: going to be publicized anytime soon, so very much looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that as well as that. You know how

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles is set to host the Olympic Games. They've

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Speaker 3: come up with this crazy idea to try and help

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Speaker 3: people through the La traffic. Los Angeles notorious for terrible

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Speaker 3: traffic jams and congestion across the city. So there is

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Speaker 3: a novel plan that our textpert is going to explain.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this much. It involves flying. It is

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Speaker 3: almost time for the news, though it's almost ten o'clock.

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Speaker 3: News is next. I'm Jack Tame It's Saturday Morning on

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Speaker 3: Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Day and vpure dot co dot z for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Moreto you Were, Jack Taime on Newstalk Dead Be through

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Speaker 3: to twelve o'clock today. The Naked Sarmons have been instrumental

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Speaker 3: in pushing pacifica humor into the mainstream in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: You know they what launched a new era of sort

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Speaker 3: of popular culture in New Zealand with Brotown and the

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Speaker 3: smash Its on his wedding. And after three decades of

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Speaker 3: being in the business, the lads are still not done.

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Speaker 3: The Naked Salmons are getting back together and returning to

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Speaker 3: the stage for the International Comedy Festival, and this morning

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Speaker 3: we have piled as many of them as we possibly

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Speaker 3: could into the studio. David Chimpale, Robbie and Mario Calderkoto

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Speaker 3: welcome to the show to see you. I reckon, I reckon,

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Speaker 3: I should say, is it man? What did I say?

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Speaker 3: I almost said money from instead of good Thanks? How

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Speaker 3: you're doing I think this We've set a record for

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Speaker 3: the most number of people squeezing into the studio, so

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Speaker 3: a very impressive start. It is twenty seven years since

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Speaker 3: The Naked Salmon's first show. Twenty seven years, so who

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Speaker 3: has aged the best?

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Speaker 17: I put my money on date, I don't think so.

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Speaker 17: I think I think it's Champelle sitting right because New

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Speaker 17: LANs have this unique ability to always look the same

782
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Speaker 17: as sixteen as they will when they're sixty, and Shampelle

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Speaker 17: has changed one iota.

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Speaker 3: What is that about.

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Speaker 18: Every morning, especially on these cold mornings? Oh yeah, put

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Speaker 18: to shine on.

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Speaker 3: So when I say twenty seven years, do you does

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Speaker 3: anyone have like a physical reaction where you go where

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Speaker 3: that's like that's a fair amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I suppose you don't think about it,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the twenty year one up to twenty,

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Speaker 2: but looking back now you go, holy cow, I've been

793
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Speaker 2: off these guys. I know these guys more than I

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Speaker 2: know my family. You know, my older brothers growing up.

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Speaker 2: I know these guys more. I've spent more time with

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Speaker 2: these guys than the eight brothers and sisters I have.

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Speaker 3: So is that a good thing, Mario?

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Speaker 8: I actually think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's just to be there when we all

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Speaker 2: gives a.

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Speaker 14: Long answer, But also one of those things like twenty

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Speaker 14: seven years. We only get reminded when we do things

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Speaker 14: like this, like we haven't been on stage for a

804
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Speaker 14: very long time, but it's just when we reconnect. It's

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Speaker 14: just you know, it's like you know, old habits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and you can't fall into the just fall

807
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Speaker 3: into See that's interesting because I wondered over that period

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Speaker 3: of time, like the world changes, people's lives change, you

809
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:04,293
Speaker 3: sort of go off in desparate directions. Right, have you

810
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Speaker 3: noticed that your respective senses of humor have changed?

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Speaker 7: Oh, very much.

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Speaker 17: So we're more low brown now than we ever have

813
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Speaker 17: been where we you know, those those those kid jokes

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Speaker 17: and the ordering. You know, while I get the funnier

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Speaker 17: they seem to me, you know, there's a real depth

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Speaker 17: to them.

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Speaker 3: Now, explain that. So, so you mean like just like

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Speaker 3: just kind of knocking around immature jokes that you make

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Speaker 3: and as kids, all of a sudden, actually there's kind

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Speaker 3: of there's a purpose to it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, there's there's something profound and their makeup and then

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Speaker 17: you go, wow, so that's what it's about. And then

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Speaker 17: then I started laughing, But ley's only because you know,

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Speaker 17: I've got nothing else to think about.

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Speaker 18: Really, Sometimes it sort of depends on context. Like you think,

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Speaker 18: when you're in other circles with other people and stuff,

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Speaker 18: you think you're you know, you developed or you've evolved,

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Speaker 18: you know sort of thing. But then you come back

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Speaker 18: into the room of these guys and they're straight back to.

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Speaker 5: Grow up.

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Speaker 3: See you think I'm all intellectual, I'm well read. It

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Speaker 3: comes down yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll.

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Speaker 18: Walk into the same room together two minutes later.

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Speaker 3: So why why do you why why do you want

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Speaker 3: to get together on stage again? Because you've had so

836
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Speaker 3: many different things that you have created and performed in

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Speaker 3: over the years as a group, but actually getting on

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Speaker 3: stage is not something you've done a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I think it's it's more a case of, like sometimes

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Speaker 17: the world needs a little reminder of the of being

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Speaker 17: a bit kinder to herself, of that there's something more

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Speaker 17: beyond the realm, and and I find I think that's

844
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Speaker 17: why we sometimes get back together, because sometimes I think

845
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Speaker 17: people forget that, you know, forget that they're alive and

846
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Speaker 17: they're okay to laugh and it's okay to own that laugh. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: you know, it's I think it's with comedy what I'm

848
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Speaker 17: enjoying about comedy and these times now is that people

849
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Speaker 17: are understanding that they're laughter and the way they laugh

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Speaker 17: as ownership and it's a way of coping with things

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Speaker 17: and coping with you know, like issues there finding in

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Speaker 17: the world. And we're just adding a little reminder. Yeah, yeah,

853
00:44:23,653 --> 00:44:26,253
Speaker 17: it's okay to laugh, It's okay to be you. It's

854
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Speaker 17: okay to have those silly thoughts and and break out

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Speaker 17: on a big smile and laugh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Plus, we got sick of Robbie hesling about twice a

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Speaker 18: year Robbie message after seven years.

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Speaker 3: We thought, oh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 14: To my shock, to my shock, about two months ago,

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Speaker 14: they I got a text. Well, on the group text,

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Speaker 14: I said, we're putting on a show. Seriously, because yeah,

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Speaker 14: we're putting on the show.

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00:44:54,133 --> 00:44:54,373
Speaker 4: Yeah.

865
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:58,333
Speaker 17: That made me laugh because normally yeah, I'm in, I'm in. Well,

866
00:44:58,333 --> 00:44:59,973
Speaker 17: when are we doing it? When we're doing it? Yeah,

867
00:44:59,973 --> 00:45:00,773
Speaker 17: we're doing it?

868
00:45:01,013 --> 00:45:01,413
Speaker 9: Really?

869
00:45:04,573 --> 00:45:08,333
Speaker 3: Is there a group chat? Yeah? How good? Oh my gosh,

870
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:17,333
Speaker 3: to be a fly on the wall in that group chat. Yeah,

871
00:45:17,373 --> 00:45:19,933
Speaker 3: who's who's who? Who posted the best content in the

872
00:45:20,013 --> 00:45:23,093
Speaker 3: in the group chat? I think it's pretty much even,

873
00:45:24,173 --> 00:45:24,693
Speaker 3: is it?

874
00:45:24,773 --> 00:45:24,893
Speaker 6: Like?

875
00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:27,573
Speaker 3: Is it? You know the will can be a bit

876
00:45:27,853 --> 00:45:29,813
Speaker 3: sensitive about certain things these days. Is it one of

877
00:45:29,813 --> 00:45:31,693
Speaker 3: those group chats that you really don't want to be

878
00:45:31,773 --> 00:45:34,413
Speaker 3: leaked publicly because you guys have have all sorts of

879
00:45:34,853 --> 00:45:39,973
Speaker 3: questions that you have to answer, or yeah, yeah.

880
00:45:39,893 --> 00:45:42,693
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's all in the secret language of the naked.

881
00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:46,213
Speaker 17: If you can code that, then then you were in.

882
00:45:46,813 --> 00:45:49,133
Speaker 14: Let's just say, I'm glad only these guys get to

883
00:45:49,173 --> 00:45:49,533
Speaker 14: see what.

884
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,973
Speaker 18: Yeah, Robert, all have kids now, and our kids are

885
00:45:52,973 --> 00:45:55,093
Speaker 18: always you know, correcting us.

886
00:45:57,573 --> 00:45:59,133
Speaker 2: We'll get told off by our kids now.

887
00:45:59,373 --> 00:46:03,133
Speaker 3: Yeah. Give me an example of your kids telling you.

888
00:46:02,573 --> 00:46:06,653
Speaker 14: No, it's it's example would be I would be sing

889
00:46:06,693 --> 00:46:10,293
Speaker 14: about something my daughter say dad, stop, just absolutely stop.

890
00:46:10,413 --> 00:46:12,533
Speaker 14: Just think about it, like they are the adults now.

891
00:46:14,573 --> 00:46:18,413
Speaker 17: And my daughter she's helping work on this thing by

892
00:46:18,453 --> 00:46:22,133
Speaker 17: the scenes, and we did this little segment for for

893
00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:25,333
Speaker 17: the social media and I did it and then she

894
00:46:25,453 --> 00:46:32,613
Speaker 17: turned around and said, no, no, grow up. And you

895
00:46:32,653 --> 00:46:34,813
Speaker 17: know this is in front of everyone, and I'm going

896
00:46:35,013 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 17: and I'm standing here going and looking at the others

897
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:45,573
Speaker 17: and are just going save some grow up muster.

898
00:46:46,213 --> 00:46:48,333
Speaker 3: So is there is that because you think that the

899
00:46:48,453 --> 00:46:50,933
Speaker 3: younger generations are a bit more are a bit more

900
00:46:51,133 --> 00:46:55,133
Speaker 3: pre or a bit more, just a bit more.

901
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:58,573
Speaker 17: I don't think they're precious. I think that they I mean,

902
00:46:58,773 --> 00:47:02,173
Speaker 17: God bless them that they're navigating a world that goes

903
00:47:02,213 --> 00:47:05,533
Speaker 17: so fast that we never had to do and they

904
00:47:05,533 --> 00:47:09,653
Speaker 17: are understanding asked the context in which things can you know,

905
00:47:09,933 --> 00:47:12,933
Speaker 17: go off the wall, and they understand that world, and

906
00:47:13,173 --> 00:47:14,533
Speaker 17: you know, it's it's brilliant.

907
00:47:14,653 --> 00:47:16,693
Speaker 2: But then why is the room always dirty? That's what

908
00:47:16,773 --> 00:47:23,253
Speaker 2: I don't get. Yes, but the room's always dirty?

909
00:47:25,613 --> 00:47:25,853
Speaker 5: Yeah?

910
00:47:25,973 --> 00:47:26,893
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

911
00:47:28,973 --> 00:47:30,853
Speaker 3: So so Robbie White, why have you been why have

912
00:47:30,933 --> 00:47:32,653
Speaker 3: you been editating on the group chat?

913
00:47:32,933 --> 00:47:33,093
Speaker 8: Is it?

914
00:47:33,253 --> 00:47:35,133
Speaker 3: Is this like a tax thing because you live in America?

915
00:47:35,173 --> 00:47:37,853
Speaker 3: You just you needed to get back to New Zealand something.

916
00:47:38,453 --> 00:47:39,333
Speaker 2: I was doing it.

917
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:42,053
Speaker 14: I was doing it when I was living Yeah, okay, yeah,

918
00:47:42,093 --> 00:47:45,173
Speaker 14: but it's it's just the fun I've had, you know

919
00:47:45,293 --> 00:47:48,053
Speaker 14: since I joined. I forgot what year I came. What

920
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:50,213
Speaker 14: year did I join the.

921
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:53,933
Speaker 17: Oh early about twenty four years years?

922
00:47:54,013 --> 00:47:54,693
Speaker 3: Four years right?

923
00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:57,293
Speaker 14: And I remember my first time rehearsal with these guys.

924
00:47:57,333 --> 00:48:00,493
Speaker 14: I couldn't It was an ad workout, like I just

925
00:48:00,813 --> 00:48:04,053
Speaker 14: lost it historically, laughing the whole time. And I enjoy

926
00:48:04,213 --> 00:48:06,613
Speaker 14: my time with the boys on stage. The last show

927
00:48:06,653 --> 00:48:11,453
Speaker 14: we did was in my mind was go Home had

928
00:48:11,493 --> 00:48:13,893
Speaker 14: a Ball. We had a ball, So that for me

929
00:48:13,973 --> 00:48:15,813
Speaker 14: it was selfishly, it was just like, I just want

930
00:48:15,813 --> 00:48:17,773
Speaker 14: to hang around with the boys and do something great

931
00:48:17,813 --> 00:48:19,693
Speaker 14: and hopefully make some people happy.

932
00:48:19,933 --> 00:48:22,373
Speaker 3: Is there any better feeling in the world than when

933
00:48:22,453 --> 00:48:25,413
Speaker 3: you've been with people and you actually notice, like physically

934
00:48:25,493 --> 00:48:27,013
Speaker 3: that your abs hurt from laughing?

935
00:48:28,173 --> 00:48:31,053
Speaker 14: It was it was it bats? Is it bats? That's

936
00:48:31,133 --> 00:48:32,293
Speaker 14: done in you with Wellington?

937
00:48:32,533 --> 00:48:38,453
Speaker 3: Oh? Serious, serious, Yah, it's remarkable. So talk to us

938
00:48:38,493 --> 00:48:40,493
Speaker 3: about the shaping of the show. So, Dave, you said

939
00:48:40,493 --> 00:48:42,253
Speaker 3: that your daughter's been helping out a little bit, But

940
00:48:42,533 --> 00:48:44,653
Speaker 3: how do you guys actually go about like creating this,

941
00:48:44,813 --> 00:48:47,053
Speaker 3: especially when like Robbie, you've been living overseas but you're

942
00:48:47,093 --> 00:48:49,333
Speaker 3: alsort of in different areas and things. At the moment.

943
00:48:50,373 --> 00:48:53,533
Speaker 17: All we do is we we get together and someone

944
00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:57,853
Speaker 17: proposes an idea and then we just start riffing on it, right,

945
00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:01,973
Speaker 17: And normally the idea is about something that either they

946
00:49:02,053 --> 00:49:05,693
Speaker 17: just sort of find funny or or maybe it's something

947
00:49:05,893 --> 00:49:09,653
Speaker 17: socially that we that we we care about, and we

948
00:49:09,693 --> 00:49:12,413
Speaker 17: start riffing on it, and then we start planning, and

949
00:49:12,453 --> 00:49:16,013
Speaker 17: then we start arguing and then we have fights and

950
00:49:16,053 --> 00:49:17,773
Speaker 17: there you go there to make it, and then we

951
00:49:17,813 --> 00:49:20,853
Speaker 17: all make up, and then we the next day we

952
00:49:20,893 --> 00:49:22,773
Speaker 17: all end up on the same fight again because we

953
00:49:22,813 --> 00:49:23,853
Speaker 17: didn't really make up.

954
00:49:24,333 --> 00:49:35,013
Speaker 19: And myself, myself, myself, keep bus.

955
00:49:34,853 --> 00:49:36,933
Speaker 17: Myself, Why lord am I here?

956
00:49:37,893 --> 00:49:39,013
Speaker 19: Why these guys?

957
00:49:39,573 --> 00:49:41,653
Speaker 2: It's triny because it always ends up the same twenty

958
00:49:41,653 --> 00:49:44,053
Speaker 2: seven years and we've always had the same or a

959
00:49:44,053 --> 00:49:47,533
Speaker 2: similar workflow. And just to circle back to your question before,

960
00:49:47,573 --> 00:49:49,573
Speaker 2: why do we do this? The it has always been

961
00:49:49,573 --> 00:49:51,653
Speaker 2: a safe place for us, a happy place for us.

962
00:49:52,293 --> 00:49:55,133
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, we've got to you know, we

963
00:49:55,253 --> 00:49:58,173
Speaker 2: do different things in our everyday lives, but when we

964
00:49:58,213 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 2: get a chance to come back together and play, we've

965
00:50:02,093 --> 00:50:02,773
Speaker 2: we've loved.

966
00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:03,133
Speaker 3: It every time.

967
00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:04,893
Speaker 2: So we just dropped. We just dropped again.

968
00:50:04,973 --> 00:50:05,133
Speaker 4: Yeah.

969
00:50:05,493 --> 00:50:08,173
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the the real pleasures of

970
00:50:08,813 --> 00:50:10,893
Speaker 3: having you guys get together and perform on stage now

971
00:50:11,213 --> 00:50:13,053
Speaker 3: is that the audience is going to be a mix

972
00:50:13,213 --> 00:50:16,333
Speaker 3: of people who remember twenty seven years ago.

973
00:50:17,213 --> 00:50:20,533
Speaker 20: But yeah, but like, yeah, they're kids all you know,

974
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:22,413
Speaker 20: They're going to be this whole kind of new generation

975
00:50:22,493 --> 00:50:25,493
Speaker 20: who will be familiar with your work in different places

976
00:50:25,533 --> 00:50:28,133
Speaker 20: but but probably you know, might not have seen you

977
00:50:28,213 --> 00:50:30,853
Speaker 20: on stage together before, which is like, that's so nice

978
00:50:30,853 --> 00:50:32,853
Speaker 20: to think that you've got kind of new minds to.

979
00:50:33,693 --> 00:50:36,293
Speaker 3: You to corrupt.

980
00:50:36,453 --> 00:50:38,933
Speaker 19: Yeah, exactly, new minds corrupted.

981
00:50:39,333 --> 00:50:40,253
Speaker 17: Yeah.

982
00:50:40,333 --> 00:50:42,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm sorry.

983
00:50:42,533 --> 00:50:44,213
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's definitely a thing. I've

984
00:50:44,253 --> 00:50:46,173
Speaker 2: got a young sixteen year sixteen year old who came

985
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,533
Speaker 2: to our Last Truth for the very first time he

986
00:50:48,573 --> 00:50:50,773
Speaker 2: saw his dad on stage. Yeah, and I feel like

987
00:50:50,853 --> 00:50:52,613
Speaker 2: I've got I've got a bit of cred in his

988
00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:55,533
Speaker 2: you know that young mind. It was this guy does that?

989
00:50:56,133 --> 00:51:00,773
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, another one. Do you do your kids find

990
00:51:00,773 --> 00:51:02,453
Speaker 3: you funny? That would they?

991
00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:05,693
Speaker 2: Man? This is that kids are a tough audience, These teens,

992
00:51:05,693 --> 00:51:08,813
Speaker 2: they're tough. Man. I actually think our humans you know,

993
00:51:08,853 --> 00:51:14,133
Speaker 2: he thinks, man, you guys are so dry. But you

994
00:51:14,173 --> 00:51:15,733
Speaker 2: know when I watched when I watch a lot of

995
00:51:16,213 --> 00:51:21,973
Speaker 2: uh comedy skits on online, you know, half of those

996
00:51:22,013 --> 00:51:24,693
Speaker 2: don't make me laugh. Half of them do. So it's

997
00:51:24,733 --> 00:51:26,973
Speaker 2: sort of like a different structure of different folks type

998
00:51:26,973 --> 00:51:29,053
Speaker 2: of thing at the moment. But you know, sometimes he

999
00:51:29,093 --> 00:51:31,733
Speaker 2: finds me funny, but a lot of times he finds

1000
00:51:31,773 --> 00:51:34,253
Speaker 2: me Dad, that's so dry, man. You and your mates.

1001
00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:41,693
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's the stage.

1002
00:51:42,773 --> 00:51:47,413
Speaker 3: What's what is the GenZ for? It's dry? Is it dry?

1003
00:51:47,533 --> 00:51:49,533
Speaker 2: Is it that man?

1004
00:51:50,293 --> 00:51:55,053
Speaker 3: Cring? Cringe? Cringe? Yeahring is it cringe?

1005
00:51:55,133 --> 00:51:55,533
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1006
00:51:55,333 --> 00:51:56,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm told.

1007
00:51:58,773 --> 00:51:59,493
Speaker 4: Some real.

1008
00:52:01,053 --> 00:52:02,813
Speaker 3: Okay, So give us the pitch. What can we expect

1009
00:52:02,853 --> 00:52:03,293
Speaker 3: from the show?

1010
00:52:04,733 --> 00:52:10,253
Speaker 17: Absolute rubbish and let you go, Oh what did I

1011
00:52:10,413 --> 00:52:13,933
Speaker 17: just say? And what did I just experience? But what

1012
00:52:14,013 --> 00:52:19,013
Speaker 17: you'll get is some some real joy, some real you know,

1013
00:52:19,933 --> 00:52:22,493
Speaker 17: stuff to think about, and at the end of the day,

1014
00:52:22,853 --> 00:52:25,013
Speaker 17: some real community jack.

1015
00:52:25,133 --> 00:52:28,413
Speaker 14: Once we finished the script, it'll be magical nice and.

1016
00:52:29,333 --> 00:52:32,133
Speaker 18: It'll be it'll be it'll be six or six guys

1017
00:52:32,333 --> 00:52:36,133
Speaker 18: you know, in their later years, enjoying the opportunity to play,

1018
00:52:36,373 --> 00:52:38,253
Speaker 18: to play together again on stage.

1019
00:52:38,333 --> 00:52:40,533
Speaker 17: Yeah, it'll be you know, I see this is that

1020
00:52:40,653 --> 00:52:43,253
Speaker 17: sense of play really, that that keeps us there for

1021
00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:46,653
Speaker 17: twenty seven years. It's like where else can you go

1022
00:52:46,733 --> 00:52:47,573
Speaker 17: and just play?

1023
00:52:47,853 --> 00:52:48,013
Speaker 8: You know?

1024
00:52:48,253 --> 00:52:51,213
Speaker 17: Too too often you're so caught up with being serious adult.

1025
00:52:51,213 --> 00:52:56,493
Speaker 17: It's not that much to play, you know, Come play

1026
00:52:56,533 --> 00:52:59,093
Speaker 17: with us. Yeah, but in a good way. Yeah, not

1027
00:52:59,173 --> 00:53:00,653
Speaker 17: on a bad way. I don't we played with in

1028
00:53:00,693 --> 00:53:02,133
Speaker 17: a bad way. On good play.

1029
00:53:02,653 --> 00:53:05,333
Speaker 2: There will be many shows and audiences will be looking

1030
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:07,773
Speaker 2: for this, and especially in these train times, so they'll

1031
00:53:07,773 --> 00:53:11,293
Speaker 2: be looking for confidence security where all we can offer

1032
00:53:11,333 --> 00:53:12,453
Speaker 2: is danger.

1033
00:53:14,453 --> 00:53:20,173
Speaker 3: And mystery. Well, are delighted that you guys are back

1034
00:53:20,213 --> 00:53:22,653
Speaker 3: on stage together. It is fantastic news. And I know

1035
00:53:23,173 --> 00:53:26,773
Speaker 3: I know so many Naked Salmon fans, whether they be

1036
00:53:26,893 --> 00:53:30,093
Speaker 3: fans from way back twenty seven years ago or new fans,

1037
00:53:30,133 --> 00:53:32,213
Speaker 3: will be thrilled to see you guys on stage. Thank

1038
00:53:32,253 --> 00:53:37,533
Speaker 3: you so much for coming in, Thanks for having us

1039
00:53:38,293 --> 00:53:42,133
Speaker 3: David Schifar, Robbie and Mario or the Naked Salmons there.

1040
00:53:42,693 --> 00:53:45,533
Speaker 3: They've actually completely get this. They've completely sold out at

1041
00:53:45,533 --> 00:53:47,093
Speaker 3: the Herald Theater this week is part of the New

1042
00:53:47,173 --> 00:53:50,773
Speaker 3: Zealand International Comedy Festival, but they have added a special

1043
00:53:50,813 --> 00:53:53,333
Speaker 3: show at Q Theater, Auckland on Wednesday, May twenty eight

1044
00:53:53,413 --> 00:53:54,933
Speaker 3: if you missed out, so you can go to Comedy

1045
00:53:54,973 --> 00:53:58,733
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1046
00:53:58,733 --> 00:54:01,853
Speaker 3: a couple of things. I've had heaps of texts, so Jack,

1047
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1049
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Speaker 3: this just before ten o'clock with chef gunnish Raj. So Yeah,

1050
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1051
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1052
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1062
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Speaker 3: That means, of course, that it's screen time time. Tara

1063
00:54:53,973 --> 00:54:57,093
Speaker 3: Reward is our screen time experts. Her job to bring

1064
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Speaker 3: in three shows to recommend every week. Hey Tara, good morning.

1065
00:55:01,253 --> 00:55:03,693
Speaker 3: Let's begin with the show streaming on Netflix. Tell us

1066
00:55:03,733 --> 00:55:05,133
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1067
00:55:06,373 --> 00:55:09,253
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1068
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1069
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1070
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1071
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1072
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Speaker 10: the city's wealthiest neighborhoods called North Zealand, and it's about

1073
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Speaker 10: what happens when an opa goes missing, and the main

1074
00:55:27,093 --> 00:55:30,773
Speaker 10: character is Cecil. She starts to worry when her neighbor's

1075
00:55:30,813 --> 00:55:35,293
Speaker 10: Filipino nanny, Ruby disappears one day, completely out of the blue.

1076
00:55:35,933 --> 00:55:38,373
Speaker 10: She becomes more worried when her neighbors, who she is

1077
00:55:38,453 --> 00:55:40,853
Speaker 10: close friends with, don't seem to be concerned at all.

1078
00:55:41,773 --> 00:55:44,653
Speaker 10: Ruby has left her passport behind, She's not taken any clothes,

1079
00:55:44,653 --> 00:55:47,573
Speaker 10: so there's definitely something wrong, and so Cecil starts to

1080
00:55:48,773 --> 00:55:51,213
Speaker 10: dig into what has happened and starts to uncover a

1081
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Speaker 10: lot of secrets about her friends and her family, and

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00:55:54,373 --> 00:55:55,893
Speaker 10: everyone becomes a suspect.

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00:55:56,253 --> 00:55:56,693
Speaker 4: And this is.

1084
00:55:56,693 --> 00:55:59,893
Speaker 10: About power and class and what having money does to people.

1085
00:56:00,053 --> 00:56:02,173
Speaker 10: And like a lot of thrillers at the moment, it's

1086
00:56:02,213 --> 00:56:05,453
Speaker 10: about those lies and secrets that are just hiding underneath

1087
00:56:05,453 --> 00:56:09,213
Speaker 10: that beautiful, perfect surface. And it works really well. This

1088
00:56:09,253 --> 00:56:12,733
Speaker 10: is uneasy and tense, but very bingeable. The episodes are

1089
00:56:13,373 --> 00:56:16,173
Speaker 10: just over thirty minutes long, so it doesn't waste any time.

1090
00:56:16,293 --> 00:56:18,533
Speaker 10: It moves along at a cracking pace. And this would

1091
00:56:18,573 --> 00:56:20,573
Speaker 10: be my weekend watch. It's a great little thriller.

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00:56:20,413 --> 00:56:23,373
Speaker 3: Nice cool that secrets we keep. It's on Netflix on

1093
00:56:23,453 --> 00:56:24,773
Speaker 3: Neon tell Us about Duster.

1094
00:56:25,853 --> 00:56:28,533
Speaker 10: Yes, something completely different. This is Dust. This is jj

1095
00:56:28,693 --> 00:56:33,493
Speaker 10: abrams new show. And this is just purely fun, entertaining television.

1096
00:56:33,813 --> 00:56:37,293
Speaker 10: It's set in the nineteen seventies in Arizona. It's about

1097
00:56:37,293 --> 00:56:39,653
Speaker 10: a guy called Jim who is a getaway driver for

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00:56:39,693 --> 00:56:41,733
Speaker 10: a crime boss. So he has to do a lot

1099
00:56:41,733 --> 00:56:44,453
Speaker 10: of his boss's dirty work and he's a bit annoyed

1100
00:56:44,453 --> 00:56:46,253
Speaker 10: that he can't move up and get a better job.

1101
00:56:46,373 --> 00:56:49,413
Speaker 10: And he meets an FBI agent who has just graduated.

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00:56:49,773 --> 00:56:52,813
Speaker 10: She's the first black female FBI agent and she really

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00:56:52,853 --> 00:56:56,693
Speaker 10: needs to prove herself, and she persuades Jim to act

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00:56:56,773 --> 00:56:59,573
Speaker 10: as an informant against his boss, and so they become

1105
00:56:59,653 --> 00:57:02,653
Speaker 10: this unlikely double act. They've both got their own access

1106
00:57:02,693 --> 00:57:04,973
Speaker 10: to grind and they are going to team up and

1107
00:57:05,013 --> 00:57:07,453
Speaker 10: take down the crime boss. And it's just a lot

1108
00:57:07,453 --> 00:57:11,613
Speaker 10: of fun. It's very nostalgic for nineteen seventies. America. So

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00:57:11,653 --> 00:57:14,573
Speaker 10: there's some great cars and car chases in this. The

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00:57:14,653 --> 00:57:17,933
Speaker 10: costumes are fantastic, the soundtrack is great. It's a bit

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00:57:17,933 --> 00:57:21,133
Speaker 10: of an action comedy as well. This is the kind

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00:57:21,133 --> 00:57:23,133
Speaker 10: of show you don't need to think too hard about.

1113
00:57:23,173 --> 00:57:26,173
Speaker 10: It's not trying to do anything clever or tricky. It's

1114
00:57:26,293 --> 00:57:28,053
Speaker 10: just having a good time and you can just sit

1115
00:57:28,133 --> 00:57:28,973
Speaker 10: back and enjoy it.

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00:57:29,173 --> 00:57:32,173
Speaker 3: Nice call, that's duster. It's on neon and on three.

1117
00:57:32,213 --> 00:57:36,093
Speaker 3: Now tell us about homeward Bound three point oh Yeah.

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00:57:36,093 --> 00:57:39,213
Speaker 10: This is a new season of a really delightful and

1119
00:57:39,253 --> 00:57:42,413
Speaker 10: funny New Zealand romantic comedy. Homebound three point zero is

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Speaker 10: created and written by Sam Wang, who also starts in

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00:57:46,173 --> 00:57:49,693
Speaker 10: this alongside Michelle Aang. They play two thirty year old

1122
00:57:49,693 --> 00:57:51,933
Speaker 10: strangers who are both living at home with their parents.

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Speaker 10: They're sick of their parents interfering in their lives, so

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00:57:55,013 --> 00:57:58,493
Speaker 10: they decide to fake a romantic relationship with each other

1125
00:57:58,533 --> 00:58:01,053
Speaker 10: and the hope that pretending to be in love will

1126
00:58:01,053 --> 00:58:03,853
Speaker 10: stop their families from matchmaking and trying to set them

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00:58:03,933 --> 00:58:06,973
Speaker 10: up with people. The catch comes, of course, good com

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00:58:07,013 --> 00:58:09,133
Speaker 10: when they actually start to fall for each other and

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00:58:09,173 --> 00:58:12,413
Speaker 10: their relationship becomes real, and that's when all the troubles begin.

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Speaker 10: It's a really charming series. Like any good rom com,

1131
00:58:15,173 --> 00:58:19,253
Speaker 10: there are lots of misunderstandings and lots of wacky characters

1132
00:58:19,253 --> 00:58:22,173
Speaker 10: and friends. I love the dynamics between the two families

1133
00:58:22,173 --> 00:58:24,533
Speaker 10: and this it's about two Chinese New Zealand families, and

1134
00:58:24,573 --> 00:58:28,133
Speaker 10: the script moves between English, Cantonese, and Mandarin, which is

1135
00:58:28,133 --> 00:58:30,373
Speaker 10: wonderful to see on screen. But the writing is so

1136
00:58:30,453 --> 00:58:34,133
Speaker 10: sharp and funny and relatable. Anyone with a family will

1137
00:58:34,133 --> 00:58:36,213
Speaker 10: relate to the humor and this. I just love the show.

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00:58:36,253 --> 00:58:40,333
Speaker 10: It's a real charming, funny series, and I'm so glad that.

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00:58:40,333 --> 00:58:40,733
Speaker 4: They got us.

1140
00:58:41,773 --> 00:58:45,733
Speaker 3: You're nice. Okay, that's Homeward Sorry, home Bound three point zero.

1141
00:58:45,813 --> 00:58:47,853
Speaker 3: So that's on three now. Dust is on the on

1142
00:58:47,933 --> 00:58:51,053
Speaker 3: Secrets We Keep As on Netflix. Hey Tara, I've just

1143
00:58:51,093 --> 00:58:53,333
Speaker 3: been catching up on the later series of Black Mirror.

1144
00:58:53,373 --> 00:58:54,253
Speaker 3: Have you seen that yet?

1145
00:58:54,333 --> 00:58:54,613
Speaker 4: Oh?

1146
00:58:54,693 --> 00:58:55,053
Speaker 5: I have.

1147
00:58:55,413 --> 00:58:57,773
Speaker 10: I'm a little bit scared of Black Mirror because it's

1148
00:58:57,773 --> 00:58:58,653
Speaker 10: so realistic.

1149
00:58:58,893 --> 00:59:02,533
Speaker 3: It's such an amazing show. It is just like I know,

1150
00:59:02,613 --> 00:59:04,613
Speaker 3: I kind of go on about these shows that get

1151
00:59:04,693 --> 00:59:07,213
Speaker 3: incredible at the moment, but it's it. That's an amazing show.

1152
00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:10,733
Speaker 3: But like I have the weirdest dreams afterwards, Like it

1153
00:59:10,813 --> 00:59:13,093
Speaker 3: really does keep me up. I'm in the stage of

1154
00:59:13,133 --> 00:59:15,213
Speaker 3: life with a three month old baby that I should

1155
00:59:15,213 --> 00:59:17,773
Speaker 3: be like sleeping in every possible down moment, but of

1156
00:59:17,773 --> 00:59:20,973
Speaker 3: course I find myself like lying there being like, oh, yeah,

1157
00:59:21,133 --> 00:59:23,213
Speaker 3: are we going to reach a singularity point with AI

1158
00:59:23,373 --> 00:59:28,613
Speaker 3: sometime soon? What could that mean? Like it's so clever. Gosh,

1159
00:59:28,653 --> 00:59:29,093
Speaker 3: it's clever.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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00:59:29,373 --> 00:59:31,853
Speaker 3: Anyway, So, if you haven't seen Black Mirror, there are

1162
00:59:31,893 --> 00:59:33,773
Speaker 3: now seven seasons of it. It's kind of like the

1163
00:59:33,773 --> 00:59:37,293
Speaker 3: Twilight Zone, and that each individual kind of stands on

1164
00:59:37,333 --> 00:59:38,893
Speaker 3: its own merits, so you don't need to go back

1165
00:59:38,893 --> 00:59:41,813
Speaker 3: and watch other seasons. They're not recurring characters or anything

1166
00:59:41,853 --> 00:59:44,093
Speaker 3: like that. But I will always recommend Black Mirror to

1167
00:59:44,133 --> 00:59:46,413
Speaker 3: anyone who hasn't seen it. We'll put all of Tara's

1168
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Speaker 3: recommendations for this week's secrets. We keep Duster and Homeward

1169
00:59:49,973 --> 00:59:53,453
Speaker 3: home Bound three up on the news talks He'd be website.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your feedback as well. Jack

1171
00:59:55,613 --> 00:59:59,493
Speaker 3: Love the Naked Salmon, says Greg Lisa's Jack. The boys

1172
00:59:59,533 --> 01:00:01,893
Speaker 3: are beautiful goodness, it's all about the play having them

1173
01:00:01,893 --> 01:00:04,693
Speaker 3: in studio, jumping on a swing at a playground, just

1174
01:00:04,733 --> 01:00:08,133
Speaker 3: there for a laugh. Yeah, it's really good. It's always

1175
01:00:08,133 --> 01:00:10,773
Speaker 3: slightly chaotic when we've got four naked arm ones in

1176
01:00:10,813 --> 01:00:12,733
Speaker 3: the studio. You never know what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 3: But I really enjoyed that ninety ninety two. If you

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Speaker 3: want to send us a message this morning, right now,

1179
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Speaker 3: it is twenty nine minutes to eleven, getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News TALKSBI.

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Speaker 10: But here's our crime.

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Speaker 3: Again, heart Well. The country music takeover of New Zealand continues.

1183
01:00:54,053 --> 01:00:57,013
Speaker 3: But for Jenny Mitchell Well, country has always been front

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Speaker 3: and sent it. Jenny's originally from Gore, Alter it oz

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01:01:01,293 --> 01:01:03,773
Speaker 3: Well and I say unofficial capital of country music. I

1186
01:01:03,813 --> 01:01:05,693
Speaker 3: feel like it is the it's just official capital. Who's

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01:01:05,733 --> 01:01:08,693
Speaker 3: going to dispute that Gore is New Zealand's capital of

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Speaker 3: country music. True to her roots, the way she kind

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Speaker 3: of interacts with the genre has a deep sense of

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Speaker 3: being grounded in wisdom rather than being about glitzy cowboy

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Speaker 3: hats and rodeos. She performed for the first ever time

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Speaker 3: at the age of four, came third and New Zealand's

1193
01:01:23,453 --> 01:01:26,213
Speaker 3: Got Talent at age thirteen and won an Opera Award

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Speaker 3: at age twenty four. Ain't No Thang. Jenny's caught the

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Speaker 3: attention of outlets like Rolling Stone with her pure, honest

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Speaker 3: vocal style, and her brand new album Forest House has

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Speaker 3: just been released. So our music reviewer has picked out

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Speaker 3: a few tracks and we're going to play those for

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Speaker 3: you before midday. Before eleven o'clock, we're going to catch

1200
01:01:45,333 --> 01:01:48,453
Speaker 3: up with our doctor as well. More concern about the

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01:01:48,533 --> 01:01:51,173
Speaker 3: number of measles cases around the country, so he's going

1202
01:01:51,213 --> 01:01:52,933
Speaker 3: to give us a bit of background on that and

1203
01:01:52,973 --> 01:01:55,333
Speaker 3: remind us how we can all keep ourselves and our

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Speaker 3: families safe. Our textbits are next, though. Right now it

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01:01:58,093 --> 01:02:00,293
Speaker 3: is twenty five to eleven. You were Jack Tame. This

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01:02:00,413 --> 01:02:01,453
Speaker 3: is News Talk's edb.

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01:02:03,213 --> 01:02:06,813
Speaker 1: Putting even tough questions to the newspakers, the mic Skin.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast, Winston Peters as well.

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Speaker 4: It's got a view on Jerry brown Lean's reaction to

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Speaker 4: that ruling from the Privilegeous Committee.

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Speaker 22: Yes, I do, but it's not vice for me to

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Speaker 22: express it on this program. I continue to do suddenly

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Speaker 22: about it. I don't mind. I don't want to talk

1214
01:02:18,973 --> 01:02:19,973
Speaker 22: about it on this program.

1215
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Speaker 4: Fair enough for this way.

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Speaker 22: The Select Committee and a very truncated process because they

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01:02:25,373 --> 01:02:28,093
Speaker 22: wouldn't turn up. Of course, enormous de days has come

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Speaker 22: to a decision that's for the House to endorse it

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01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:33,533
Speaker 22: otherwise and this sidea of hours and days and days weeks,

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Speaker 22: everyone having a chance of talking more than once and

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01:02:36,693 --> 01:02:39,533
Speaker 22: move a members is in my view, painly wrong. That's

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Speaker 22: a part I want to go back.

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Speaker 4: Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Maybe's

1224
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Speaker 4: Real Estate News Talk.

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Speaker 3: ZEDB twenty two to eleven on News Talks edb our

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Speaker 3: Textbit Paul stein House is here with a fascinating story

1227
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Speaker 3: out of Los Angeles. It is only going to be

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Speaker 3: worse when it comes to traffic and trying to get

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Speaker 3: around the city come the Olympic Games. But Ala has

1230
01:03:01,173 --> 01:03:05,413
Speaker 3: just announced an official ear taxi provider for the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty eight game. Paul, what on Earth?

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Speaker 21: This might be the closest we get to my Jetson's

1233
01:03:11,893 --> 01:03:13,133
Speaker 21: fantasy of flying cars.

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Speaker 3: It's a little you.

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Speaker 21: Can't just go reheviy, you want to go okay. So

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01:03:18,653 --> 01:03:21,733
Speaker 21: here's how it's going to work. They have a company

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01:03:21,773 --> 01:03:24,333
Speaker 21: called Archer who is going through the process at the

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01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:30,493
Speaker 21: moment to get their electric piloted ear taxis certified by

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Speaker 21: the FAA.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so these things are designed.

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Speaker 21: To carry the pilot as well as up to four

1242
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Speaker 21: passengers and their luggage, and they're going to have this

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Speaker 21: network they're calling it, which will be like.

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Speaker 3: Site to site.

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Speaker 21: So it kind of looks more like a plane because

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Speaker 21: it has a fixed wing.

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01:03:48,573 --> 01:03:52,773
Speaker 3: Yes, but it can land and take.

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Speaker 21: Off vertically because it's propellers on the edge of its

1249
01:03:57,173 --> 01:04:00,093
Speaker 21: fixed wing can tilt upwards or forwards, so it can

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01:04:00,133 --> 01:04:02,213
Speaker 21: either put them upwards and go up.

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01:04:02,253 --> 01:04:04,653
Speaker 3: It's got like twelve of them, six on each side or.

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01:04:04,573 --> 01:04:07,013
Speaker 21: Something, so it can either like go up vertically and

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01:04:07,053 --> 01:04:08,573
Speaker 21: then just take off like a plane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool. So people might know those osprays.

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01:04:12,493 --> 01:04:14,693
Speaker 3: Do you know the osprays? Yes, the ospray. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like a little version, like a commercial version

1257
01:04:17,733 --> 01:04:18,773
Speaker 3: of an ospray, right.

1258
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Speaker 8: A TESLA version.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, So these things are going to basically lift

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Speaker 21: off from specific places around LA and then we'll be

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Speaker 21: able to fly and then land in other specific places

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Speaker 21: around LA. And so they're going to use this Apparently

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Speaker 21: it is the official air taxi provider for the twenty

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Speaker 21: eight games, and it's going to shuttle VPS athletes. I'm

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Speaker 21: assuming highly expensive spectator tickets two different places. And they

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Speaker 21: say that it will be able to turn a one

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Speaker 21: to our drive into a ten to twenty minute journey

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Speaker 21: and it is one hundred times quieter than a helicopter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah, I don't want to get in it.

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Speaker 3: All of that sounds good, well it does, Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: sounds good in theory. So do we know how much

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01:05:02,573 --> 01:05:04,093
Speaker 3: it's going to cost to find one of these? O?

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Speaker 23: We don't know.

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01:05:04,653 --> 01:05:07,093
Speaker 3: We don't talk about yeah, ok, Los Angeles.

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01:05:07,173 --> 01:05:10,053
Speaker 21: Yeah, don't talk about silly details.

1277
01:05:09,573 --> 01:05:11,173
Speaker 3: Like yeah, right, we're dreaming here.

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01:05:11,813 --> 01:05:13,973
Speaker 21: It's twenty twenty five. This is going to be twenty

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Speaker 21: twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: I mean those out later. Yeah, yeah, I feel like

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01:05:18,493 --> 01:05:21,853
Speaker 3: there could be some things that go wrong, but look, yeah,

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01:05:22,013 --> 01:05:24,653
Speaker 3: we're remaining open minded at the stage. Look, and they

1283
01:05:24,693 --> 01:05:28,613
Speaker 3: are cool looking gun of machines. So you know, hey,

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01:05:28,653 --> 01:05:30,973
Speaker 3: TikTok apparently wants kids to sleep.

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01:05:31,573 --> 01:05:32,493
Speaker 8: Yeah, because it is.

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01:05:32,733 --> 01:05:34,453
Speaker 21: You go to bed, you pull out your phone, you

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01:05:34,453 --> 01:05:36,253
Speaker 21: get stuck in the TikTok hole. Right, We've been there

1288
01:05:36,253 --> 01:05:40,093
Speaker 21: at the time just disappears. So after ten pm, now

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01:05:40,453 --> 01:05:42,613
Speaker 21: kids who are under eighteen are going to get a

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Speaker 21: reminder that they may have just been scrolling a touch

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01:05:45,693 --> 01:05:49,213
Speaker 21: too long and that sleep is good, and they even

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Speaker 21: get promoted to do some guide of meditation. They've got

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Speaker 21: some relaxing music that's quite nice, So that's going to

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Speaker 21: be on by default for all users under eighteen. If

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Speaker 21: you're over eighteen and still find yourself stuck in TikTok

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01:06:02,493 --> 01:06:05,333
Speaker 21: holes after ten pm and should be asleep, you too

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01:06:05,453 --> 01:06:09,013
Speaker 21: can turn on the reminders you go into the sleep

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Speaker 21: hours in your screen time settings and hopefully you'll get

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Speaker 21: some zen.

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Speaker 3: Can you turn it off if you're under eighteen?

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Speaker 8: No? Yeah, I actually think you can.

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Speaker 21: Right, So the release specifically said like toggled on by default,

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Speaker 21: but they said I remember actually reading now you mentioned that.

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Speaker 21: I do believe that. They said that the kids who

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Speaker 21: did it opted in and kept it.

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Speaker 3: They were okay with it, okay because they've tried it already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, they trialed it. So it kinds like

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Speaker 3: the the grand the rollout. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 21: I added this relaxing music guided meditation, which is a

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Speaker 21: nice ad, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not sure about getting a guided meditation from

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01:06:44,293 --> 01:06:47,053
Speaker 3: an app like it sort of seems counterintuitive, but from

1313
01:06:47,053 --> 01:06:50,853
Speaker 3: an app like techtok. But it's all about engagement anyway. Hey,

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Speaker 3: thanks Paul, I appreciated as always. Paul Stanhouse is our

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Speaker 3: texpert with us this morning. It's eighteen to eleven. Doctor

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Speaker 3: Bryan Betties here next, a little.

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Speaker 8: Bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and vpwar

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Speaker 3: Right now, it is sixteen minutes to eleven on News Talks,

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Speaker 3: EDB and measles numbers in New Zealand have been increasing

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01:07:15,653 --> 01:07:18,133
Speaker 3: a little bit lately, but in the US things have

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01:07:18,213 --> 01:07:20,733
Speaker 3: been a whole lot worse. Doctor Brian Betty is here

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Speaker 3: with us this morning.

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Speaker 13: Calder Brian, Oh cure, Jack, Nice to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, you look at this case. I

1327
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:28,733
Speaker 3: think it was the last week right where someone was

1328
01:07:28,813 --> 01:07:32,253
Speaker 3: trappling on a theory from Wayhiki and had measles and

1329
01:07:32,293 --> 01:07:34,493
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you can, you know, do

1330
01:07:34,573 --> 01:07:38,253
Speaker 3: the contact tracing thing, and there are potentially hundreds of people,

1331
01:07:38,253 --> 01:07:41,053
Speaker 3: if not thousands if you leave it a little bit,

1332
01:07:41,053 --> 01:07:44,493
Speaker 3: who have been exposed. But it is incredibly infectious. Right.

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01:07:45,733 --> 01:07:49,053
Speaker 13: Ah, look, and yeah, the side of things I think

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01:07:49,093 --> 01:07:52,253
Speaker 13: we need to talk about because it's the basic fact

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01:07:52,293 --> 01:07:56,213
Speaker 13: that that measles is one of the most contagious infectious

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01:07:56,253 --> 01:08:00,173
Speaker 13: diseases nine to man now, which means that that someone

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01:08:00,253 --> 01:08:03,653
Speaker 13: with mes was going into a public space spreads the

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01:08:04,093 --> 01:08:07,013
Speaker 13: disease through the air and it's a terrific great So

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01:08:07,093 --> 01:08:11,053
Speaker 13: there's something called a reproduction number, and for measles, that

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01:08:11,293 --> 01:08:13,933
Speaker 13: one infectious person, if they walk into a room, can

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01:08:13,973 --> 01:08:17,613
Speaker 13: spread it to up to twelve to eighteen people different people,

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01:08:17,653 --> 01:08:22,253
Speaker 13: so incredibly infectious. So just in comparison, COVID had a

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01:08:22,293 --> 01:08:26,973
Speaker 13: reproduction number of two to three. Influenza is one point three,

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Speaker 13: So measles sitting at twelve to eighteen is completely off

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Speaker 13: the scale, which is why we get so concerned about

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Speaker 13: someone with measles on a very in way. Heik, you're

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01:08:36,333 --> 01:08:39,293
Speaker 13: walking into a supermarket. Now. The other thing about it,

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01:08:39,333 --> 01:08:41,733
Speaker 13: which which is really important, that four days before the

1349
01:08:41,773 --> 01:08:44,773
Speaker 13: symptoms come on, you're infectious, so you don't know you've

1350
01:08:44,773 --> 01:08:47,333
Speaker 13: got it and infectious and that's that's probably what happened

1351
01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:49,373
Speaker 13: in this case. And dang, way you.

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Speaker 3: Go, it's like perfect, perfect stormy when you have something

1353
01:08:53,213 --> 01:08:55,573
Speaker 3: incredibly infexious and you don't know you have it because

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01:08:55,613 --> 01:08:59,253
Speaker 3: it takes your infectious before all of the symptoms start

1355
01:08:59,333 --> 01:09:02,013
Speaker 3: to rear the ugly heads. I think people will remember

1356
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Speaker 3: the you know, the our value from the good old

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Speaker 3: COVID days, right, and when we're trying to get the

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01:09:06,613 --> 01:09:10,133
Speaker 3: island you under one, Yes, that's right, but I mean

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01:09:10,173 --> 01:09:12,733
Speaker 3: this is yeah, twelve to eighteen is just as crazy.

1360
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Speaker 3: So why is it such something a particular concern in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, I mean, you know, you know, it is

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Speaker 13: true that for the majority of children or cases for measles,

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Speaker 13: it'll be a relatively mild mild to severe disease. Most

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01:09:27,333 --> 01:09:30,813
Speaker 13: will get better of better product. However, people consider a

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01:09:30,853 --> 01:09:33,653
Speaker 13: lot of people consider it a benign disease. But it's

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Speaker 13: not benign. This is the thing about it. So if

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01:09:36,933 --> 01:09:39,293
Speaker 13: we go back to twenty nineteen when there was the

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Speaker 13: last big outbreak, you know, seven hundred children under the

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Speaker 13: age of five ended up in hospital in New Zealand, Okay,

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Speaker 13: one hundred of them under the age of one, where

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Speaker 13: they had no protection whatsoever, and eighty died in Samoa.

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Speaker 13: We were very, very lucky not to have deaths in

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Speaker 13: New Zealand because there can be serious complications. So that

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01:09:59,813 --> 01:10:04,533
Speaker 13: includes dehydration, pneumonia and actually brain swelling. So this is

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01:10:04,573 --> 01:10:06,693
Speaker 13: a real, real worry with measles, and that's why we

1377
01:10:06,733 --> 01:10:09,173
Speaker 13: get so concerned. It's infectious and you can get these

1378
01:10:09,213 --> 01:10:11,573
Speaker 13: serious events. But in New Zealand we have this low

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Speaker 13: immunization rate. It's been a problem since COVID. We're sitting

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Speaker 13: down around eighty percent. Maori children are sitting around sixty

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01:10:19,693 --> 01:10:23,093
Speaker 13: nine percent, so a large number of our Tamaiki are

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Speaker 13: not protected against measles.

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Speaker 15: At the moment.

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Speaker 13: We need a rate of about ninety five percent to

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Speaker 13: have what we call herd immunity where we protect the

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Speaker 13: community against measles. We're a long way off. This type

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Speaker 13: of outbreak causes real concern.

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Speaker 3: How do you actually recognize it?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, look, I mean the symptoms usually occur about one

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01:10:42,213 --> 01:10:45,333
Speaker 13: to week two weeks after exposure, and often what you

1391
01:10:45,373 --> 01:10:49,853
Speaker 13: start to see is suddenly a high fever, running nose,

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01:10:49,973 --> 01:10:53,173
Speaker 13: red watery eyes in particular, so this sort of conjunctivirus

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01:10:53,213 --> 01:10:56,293
Speaker 13: type thing and a rash. Now, the rash is very typical.

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Speaker 13: It starts around the face or behind the ears and

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01:10:59,093 --> 01:11:02,133
Speaker 13: then starts to spread down over the body and it's

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Speaker 13: red and very very distinctive in terms of what it does.

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Speaker 13: You may get also tiny white spots in the mouth.

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Speaker 13: We call those complex spots now, so that's how you

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Speaker 13: start to notice it. So if you suspect measles, the

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Speaker 13: big thing is don't go to your medical center, ring

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Speaker 13: up and get medical advice because you don't want waiting

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01:11:21,613 --> 01:11:25,013
Speaker 13: room spread. It really really important. You don't want to

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01:11:25,053 --> 01:11:27,493
Speaker 13: go to emergency department and spread it so important to

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01:11:27,493 --> 01:11:30,413
Speaker 13: bring ahead and get advice on what to do. And

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Speaker 13: that's incredibly important, and they're not respect measles.

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Speaker 3: If you do that, measles, there's no right of treatment

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01:11:36,533 --> 01:11:37,933
Speaker 3: as us right, you just have to try and treat

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Speaker 3: the symptoms.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, look, you've got to treat the symptoms. There is

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Speaker 13: no treatment, so you treat the symptoms. And again, as

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Speaker 13: I said, in the majority of cases, look rest fluids,

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01:11:48,013 --> 01:11:51,533
Speaker 13: staying at home so you don't spread it. Paracetamol you know,

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01:11:51,893 --> 01:11:55,013
Speaker 13: we'll do the job if it gets more severe in

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Speaker 13: terms of dehydration, not being able to drink, you've got

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01:11:57,733 --> 01:12:01,533
Speaker 13: concerns about cough or what's going on or your child.

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01:12:01,853 --> 01:12:03,973
Speaker 13: You do need to drink and get advice. That's what's

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01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:07,613
Speaker 13: really really important. So stay in touch with me medical

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01:12:07,653 --> 01:12:11,053
Speaker 13: help if you are concerned. But the only real way

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Speaker 13: of protecting against beetles, because we can't treat it, is immunivation,

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Speaker 13: so imminization their MEMR is actually really really critically important,

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01:12:20,053 --> 01:12:21,893
Speaker 13: and especially if we've got an outbreak like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's such good advice. I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: quite your MR yet. He's not at that stage. But

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Speaker 3: my son turns three months old today, so we have

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01:12:30,853 --> 01:12:33,173
Speaker 3: on Monday the second round of jabs.

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Speaker 24: This isn't it.

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01:12:38,013 --> 01:12:40,013
Speaker 3: So you've got to go along and you know, like

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01:12:40,093 --> 01:12:42,173
Speaker 3: as mum feeds him as he gets his jabs.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, yeah, poor little thing, but I mean looks

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01:12:45,853 --> 01:12:49,533
Speaker 13: so so important. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Jack.

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01:12:49,653 --> 01:12:52,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tough I obviously you know we don't

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01:12:52,053 --> 01:12:54,053
Speaker 3: need to do it, of course, you know, we we

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01:12:54,213 --> 01:12:56,773
Speaker 3: want to keep him as safe as possible. But yeah,

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01:12:57,693 --> 01:13:03,533
Speaker 3: still it's not an occasion that I'm looking forward to this. Yeah. Hey,

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01:13:03,533 --> 01:13:05,613
Speaker 3: thank you so much, Brian. We really appreciate it and

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01:13:05,693 --> 01:13:08,773
Speaker 3: such an important message aroundom menization. So you take care

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01:13:08,813 --> 01:13:10,613
Speaker 3: and we will catch again very soon right now, it's

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Speaker 3: ten to eleven. We're in the garden. Next on news Talks, he'd.

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Speaker 1: Be gardening with still shaft free autumn upgrades on Still's

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Speaker 1: best sellers.

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Speaker 3: Route Climb Past is in the garden for us this morning.

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01:13:21,493 --> 01:13:23,893
Speaker 3: Hey Rude, thank good morning.

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Speaker 4: Have you got any troubles with.

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01:13:26,933 --> 01:13:28,733
Speaker 3: Wash I do have troubles with wasp. I'm glad that

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01:13:28,773 --> 01:13:31,373
Speaker 3: we're talking about this. I know we've we've mentioned wasps before,

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01:13:31,413 --> 01:13:33,053
Speaker 3: but we've had I've had a few bit of trouble

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01:13:33,893 --> 01:13:36,613
Speaker 3: with wasps at our place. And there's actually a little

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01:13:36,733 --> 01:13:40,173
Speaker 3: nest on my roof because we've got kind of like

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Speaker 3: we've got a skylight and there's some sort of flashing

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Speaker 3: around the skylight, and I think that the wasps have

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01:13:45,933 --> 01:13:47,053
Speaker 3: formed a little nest in.

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Speaker 8: There is Can you see that nest.

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01:13:50,493 --> 01:13:53,173
Speaker 3: Well. I haven't stuck my head right down at because

1454
01:13:53,213 --> 01:13:55,053
Speaker 3: the times that I've been up on the roof recently,

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01:13:55,093 --> 01:13:56,413
Speaker 3: it's been in the middle of the day when it's

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01:13:56,413 --> 01:13:58,413
Speaker 3: been quite hot and so the wasp been quite active.

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01:13:58,733 --> 01:14:00,373
Speaker 3: I didn't think that was the time to be putting

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01:14:00,373 --> 01:14:04,173
Speaker 3: my arm down in between the flashing or anything like that.

1459
01:14:04,253 --> 01:14:08,733
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is. I I mean I think people

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01:14:08,773 --> 01:14:10,933
Speaker 3: everywhere have them. At the moment, my mom and dad's

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01:14:10,933 --> 01:14:12,813
Speaker 3: place get heaves a wasp nest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sometimes if it's small nests, you know, with

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01:14:16,853 --> 01:14:20,013
Speaker 4: the with an underside, with all those if you like

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01:14:20,613 --> 01:14:25,093
Speaker 4: those little cells, then it's usually a paper wasp species,

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01:14:25,173 --> 01:14:27,293
Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that based literally upside

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01:14:27,333 --> 01:14:27,973
Speaker 4: down nests.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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01:14:28,933 --> 01:14:31,893
Speaker 4: And and these guys and those guys actually have finished

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01:14:31,973 --> 01:14:35,573
Speaker 4: basically already. What you see of paper wasp nests at

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Speaker 4: the moment is a whole lot of these boys and

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01:14:38,853 --> 01:14:42,613
Speaker 4: girls literally having a leck display, which is a lovely

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01:14:42,773 --> 01:14:45,573
Speaker 4: term for the boys are sitting there trying to get

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01:14:45,573 --> 01:14:49,093
Speaker 4: a girlfriend before the winter so that at least, you know,

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Speaker 4: then their sperm goes into the next generation if you like.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, and that is that is actually.

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01:14:56,053 --> 01:14:58,773
Speaker 4: Quite cool to watch, because these wasps are not interested

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01:14:58,813 --> 01:15:02,853
Speaker 4: in you. They're only interested in having having a girlfriend coming.

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01:15:04,053 --> 01:15:06,133
Speaker 4: So they are the ones that quite often make these

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01:15:06,173 --> 01:15:08,613
Speaker 4: little little nests on top of your roofs, are on

1480
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Speaker 4: the inside or whatever.

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01:15:10,173 --> 01:15:10,773
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's it.

1482
01:15:11,453 --> 01:15:15,213
Speaker 4: But the big, the big buggers ei the German wasps

1483
01:15:15,333 --> 01:15:19,973
Speaker 4: or the common wasps, and they have a totally they

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01:15:20,013 --> 01:15:23,573
Speaker 4: have a slightly different technique at the moment, they make

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01:15:24,133 --> 01:15:30,813
Speaker 4: reasonably sizeable nests. We're talking football size, two footballs, three footballs,

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01:15:30,853 --> 01:15:35,813
Speaker 4: that sort of subside. And if they have already survived

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01:15:36,053 --> 01:15:39,893
Speaker 4: one summer and one winter, they can use that same

1488
01:15:39,973 --> 01:15:42,493
Speaker 4: nest or stay that nest, and that nest could be

1489
01:15:42,573 --> 01:15:43,453
Speaker 4: two meters tall.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, wow, unbelievable.

1491
01:15:46,253 --> 01:15:46,893
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1492
01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:50,613
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, no problem, and with millions of cells.

1493
01:15:50,773 --> 01:15:51,893
Speaker 3: Yeah that is that.

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01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:55,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be a nest that actually literally survives

1495
01:15:55,533 --> 01:15:59,573
Speaker 4: one winter, sometimes even two winters. It becomes huge.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, now, this is.

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Speaker 4: This is what we see right now. The queens are active,

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01:16:04,933 --> 01:16:10,413
Speaker 4: ferently looking. They're basically finding a place to hibernate. And

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Speaker 4: if they've lost their nest, that's okay. They're all on

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01:16:12,853 --> 01:16:15,013
Speaker 4: their own and you can start again.

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01:16:14,933 --> 01:16:19,013
Speaker 3: Right, so now the time to get rid of them, though.

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01:16:19,973 --> 01:16:22,373
Speaker 4: Yes, you could do if you like, if you if

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01:16:22,373 --> 01:16:25,693
Speaker 4: you find queens and things like that, what they will

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01:16:25,693 --> 01:16:27,693
Speaker 4: do is they are trying to look for a place

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01:16:27,733 --> 01:16:32,773
Speaker 4: to hibernate. For instance, in my particular case, it's very simple.

1506
01:16:33,013 --> 01:16:36,693
Speaker 4: They often in the firewood that I've got stacked, you

1507
01:16:36,693 --> 01:16:39,653
Speaker 4: know what I mean, nice nooks and traines, little holes

1508
01:16:39,773 --> 01:16:41,973
Speaker 4: and things like that. And when you pick up some

1509
01:16:42,013 --> 01:16:45,133
Speaker 4: firewood to go and make your house form, and you

1510
01:16:46,653 --> 01:16:50,613
Speaker 4: pick the firewood without looking, you sometimes can get done

1511
01:16:50,653 --> 01:16:55,813
Speaker 4: by these wonderful stings that it's quite nicely by the way. Yeah,

1512
01:16:55,973 --> 01:16:58,333
Speaker 4: so you've got to be watching, watching for things like that.

1513
01:16:58,493 --> 01:17:02,013
Speaker 4: They love sitting there and that's basically what they're going

1514
01:17:02,053 --> 01:17:04,493
Speaker 4: to do now, and they sit there in your firewood

1515
01:17:04,573 --> 01:17:07,533
Speaker 4: or in nooks and cranies. You're a little hot until

1516
01:17:07,933 --> 01:17:11,613
Speaker 4: this coming spring and that's when it all starts again

1517
01:17:12,133 --> 01:17:15,573
Speaker 4: with baker Ma. They make brand new cells and it

1518
01:17:15,573 --> 01:17:16,453
Speaker 4: looks gorgeous.

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01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:19,813
Speaker 3: Is it looks gorgeous until you've got the throwing wealth

1520
01:17:19,813 --> 01:17:22,893
Speaker 3: on your arm as a result. Hey, thank you, ruy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I do. I need to get onto it on the

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Speaker 3: text check stopping a whisk get onto it? Yeah, all right,

1523
01:17:27,253 --> 01:17:29,973
Speaker 3: I will. It was honestly really hot. I didn't want

1524
01:17:29,973 --> 01:17:31,413
Speaker 3: to be stung on top of the roof. That felt

1525
01:17:31,413 --> 01:17:34,213
Speaker 3: like a risk peaker disaster. Okay. After eleven o'clock, we're

1526
01:17:34,213 --> 01:17:38,053
Speaker 3: talking sustainability with our sustainability expert, who is about to

1527
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Speaker 3: have a baby. So the question on everyone's lips, what

1528
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Speaker 3: is she going to do for nappies. It's almost eleven o'clock.

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Speaker 3: V more you Jack tam on news Talk z'd be.

1534
01:18:21,893 --> 01:18:25,213
Speaker 3: I read this crazy passage this week from this new

1535
01:18:25,253 --> 01:18:29,533
Speaker 3: book that has been written about Joe Biden's presidency and

1536
01:18:29,573 --> 01:18:33,973
Speaker 3: the efforts from Joe Biden and his inner circle to

1537
01:18:34,053 --> 01:18:38,413
Speaker 3: hide his incredibly diminished state in the lead up to

1538
01:18:38,453 --> 01:18:41,733
Speaker 3: the election. I sort of I was reflecting on how

1539
01:18:42,093 --> 01:18:44,933
Speaker 3: I kind of felt about his you know, his his

1540
01:18:45,013 --> 01:18:49,213
Speaker 3: state as president during the last presidential term. I remember

1541
01:18:49,333 --> 01:18:51,413
Speaker 3: at the start, I thought, oh, well, you know, he's here,

1542
01:18:51,493 --> 01:18:53,893
Speaker 3: he's won the election, he's beaten Donald Trump if he

1543
01:18:53,973 --> 01:18:56,893
Speaker 3: really wants to run for a second election, and you know,

1544
01:18:57,053 --> 01:18:59,973
Speaker 3: he's proven that he can beat Trump. Then power term.

1545
01:19:00,053 --> 01:19:03,333
Speaker 3: But it obviously became pretty obvious, you know, in the

1546
01:19:03,373 --> 01:19:07,053
Speaker 3: in the midst of that term, that he was not

1547
01:19:07,253 --> 01:19:10,373
Speaker 3: quite as sprightly as he might once have been. But honestly,

1548
01:19:10,453 --> 01:19:13,933
Speaker 3: the extent to which he had diminished, yeah, I think,

1549
01:19:15,333 --> 01:19:19,173
Speaker 3: you know, is a scandal that has not yet been

1550
01:19:19,253 --> 01:19:22,493
Speaker 3: properly accounted for in the US. And so just to

1551
01:19:22,533 --> 01:19:24,253
Speaker 3: give you a bit of a flavor from the book

1552
01:19:24,253 --> 01:19:27,493
Speaker 3: I was reading this week. Basically, in the months before

1553
01:19:27,973 --> 01:19:32,693
Speaker 3: the election last year, George Clooney and some other prominent

1554
01:19:32,733 --> 01:19:35,973
Speaker 3: Hollywood Democrats got asked to organize a big fundraiser. And

1555
01:19:36,013 --> 01:19:39,373
Speaker 3: I mean Clooney has a reputation as being Hollywood's kind

1556
01:19:39,373 --> 01:19:42,293
Speaker 3: of top fundraiser. The guy, as well as being an

1557
01:19:42,293 --> 01:19:44,413
Speaker 3: Oscar winner and one of the most famous faces in

1558
01:19:44,453 --> 01:19:47,973
Speaker 3: the world, is able to turn it on, organize an

1559
01:19:47,973 --> 01:19:51,693
Speaker 3: event and potentially raise hundreds of millions of dollars. So

1560
01:19:52,253 --> 01:19:54,613
Speaker 3: clue was based in Italy, he was filming over there,

1561
01:19:54,653 --> 01:19:56,733
Speaker 3: but he said, yep, I'll make my way to Los

1562
01:19:56,733 --> 01:20:00,373
Speaker 3: Angeles and host an event for Joe Biden, an old friend.

1563
01:20:00,653 --> 01:20:02,813
Speaker 3: I'll do it for one night, and before the event

1564
01:20:02,853 --> 01:20:05,613
Speaker 3: has even finished, I'll rush back off to my jet

1565
01:20:05,653 --> 01:20:07,973
Speaker 3: and fly out to my film set. Right. So he

1566
01:20:08,053 --> 01:20:10,533
Speaker 3: was there for one night only. Anyway, he set it up.

1567
01:20:10,653 --> 01:20:13,613
Speaker 3: Julia Roberts was there, all of these big wigs from Hollywood,

1568
01:20:14,013 --> 01:20:16,933
Speaker 3: and at that point George Clooney hadn't seen Joe Biden

1569
01:20:16,973 --> 01:20:19,493
Speaker 3: in eighteen months to two years. Anyway, he was waiting

1570
01:20:19,573 --> 01:20:22,613
Speaker 3: at this event, this whole big flash event, waiting for

1571
01:20:22,773 --> 01:20:24,573
Speaker 3: the President to turn up, when all of a sudden,

1572
01:20:24,573 --> 01:20:29,413
Speaker 3: Biden turned up, and Clooney said he was like astonished

1573
01:20:29,653 --> 01:20:33,093
Speaker 3: once Biden walked into the room, basically because Biden was

1574
01:20:33,133 --> 01:20:36,213
Speaker 3: barely walking, he was doing that shuffle thing. But even

1575
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:38,173
Speaker 3: though Clooney hadn't seen him in a couple of years,

1576
01:20:38,253 --> 01:20:40,973
Speaker 3: he reckoned that Joe Biden looked like he had age

1577
01:20:41,373 --> 01:20:44,493
Speaker 3: like five or ten times amount that amount, you know,

1578
01:20:44,573 --> 01:20:48,853
Speaker 3: five or ten times that amount, like a decade or so. Anyway,

1579
01:20:48,973 --> 01:20:52,213
Speaker 3: Biden comes over and he's meeting the VIPs at this event,

1580
01:20:52,693 --> 01:20:54,893
Speaker 3: and he's kind of going along the line and saying

1581
01:20:55,053 --> 01:20:57,533
Speaker 3: thank you for being here, thank you for being here,

1582
01:20:57,773 --> 01:21:00,493
Speaker 3: thank for being here, and shaking his hands. He gets

1583
01:21:00,533 --> 01:21:03,933
Speaker 3: to George Clooney. George Clooney who has organized the event,

1584
01:21:04,213 --> 01:21:07,933
Speaker 3: George Clooney, who has flown across across the world for

1585
01:21:07,973 --> 01:21:10,053
Speaker 3: a couple of hours in order to host the event.

1586
01:21:10,333 --> 01:21:13,133
Speaker 3: George Clooney, who has a reputation for raising hundreds of

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01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:16,213
Speaker 3: millions of dollars. George Clooney, who is an Oscar winner,

1588
01:21:16,413 --> 01:21:19,933
Speaker 3: who is one of the most recognizable faces on Earth,

1589
01:21:19,973 --> 01:21:22,893
Speaker 3: if not the most recognizable face in Hollywood. He gets

1590
01:21:22,933 --> 01:21:25,893
Speaker 3: to George Clooney and goes, thank you for being here.

1591
01:21:26,773 --> 01:21:30,773
Speaker 3: One of his aides steps in and goes, uh, mister President,

1592
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:34,493
Speaker 3: you know George, and he goes, oh, yeah, yeah, great

1593
01:21:34,493 --> 01:21:36,653
Speaker 3: to see you, Great to see you, and keeps working.

1594
01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:40,693
Speaker 3: Walking along the line. It becomes immediately clear to George

1595
01:21:40,693 --> 01:21:43,493
Speaker 3: Clooney and to all of the people around that Joe

1596
01:21:43,493 --> 01:21:49,413
Speaker 3: Biden has not recognized George Clooney at this fundraiser. I mean,

1597
01:21:49,453 --> 01:21:53,173
Speaker 3: it is just preposterous, isn't it just utterly preposterous in

1598
01:21:53,213 --> 01:21:55,573
Speaker 3: the months before in an election that he and his

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01:21:55,693 --> 01:21:58,533
Speaker 3: aides honestly thought that a he could run and win

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01:21:58,653 --> 01:22:00,293
Speaker 3: and b that he would be up to a second

1601
01:22:00,413 --> 01:22:04,613
Speaker 3: term in that office given his state. I mean, it

1602
01:22:04,733 --> 01:22:09,453
Speaker 3: truly is a scan of astronomical proportions. And who can

1603
01:22:09,493 --> 01:22:13,013
Speaker 3: blame American voters for being cynical and for not trusting

1604
01:22:13,213 --> 01:22:17,853
Speaker 3: powerful institutions and that party, And who can blame them

1605
01:22:17,853 --> 01:22:20,173
Speaker 3: for being seduced by Donald Trump, who you know isn't

1606
01:22:20,213 --> 01:22:23,253
Speaker 3: afraid of coming out and saying here's the truth. Yep,

1607
01:22:23,453 --> 01:22:26,213
Speaker 3: Katar is offering me a four hundred million dollar plane.

1608
01:22:26,213 --> 01:22:29,893
Speaker 3: I'm happy to take it. They don't feel like they're

1609
01:22:30,053 --> 01:22:34,373
Speaker 3: they're they're being misled, right, It's entirely understandable kind of phenomenon. Anyway,

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01:22:34,373 --> 01:22:36,413
Speaker 3: I'm going to put a link to that little piece

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01:22:36,453 --> 01:22:38,933
Speaker 3: that describes this fundraiser up on our Facebook page. If

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01:22:38,933 --> 01:22:40,413
Speaker 3: you want to see, you can go to Jacktame dot

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01:22:40,453 --> 01:22:42,413
Speaker 3: com or just search Jacktame on Facebook and you'll be

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01:22:42,413 --> 01:22:44,413
Speaker 3: able to hear that story from George Clooney as well.

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01:22:44,453 --> 01:22:48,573
Speaker 3: It really is remarkable, honestly Shakespearean, but for someone like

1616
01:22:49,293 --> 01:22:52,533
Speaker 3: Joe Biden with his career to end it the way

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01:22:52,573 --> 01:22:55,893
Speaker 3: he did. Anyway, before midday on News TALKB, we're going

1618
01:22:55,933 --> 01:22:58,573
Speaker 3: to listen to a new album by Kiwi country artist

1619
01:22:58,613 --> 01:23:01,293
Speaker 3: Jenny Mitchell. She's got an amazing voice. Rolling Stone is

1620
01:23:01,333 --> 01:23:02,653
Speaker 3: a big fan, so we're going to play you some

1621
01:23:02,693 --> 01:23:05,173
Speaker 3: of her new music as well as that. We're keeping

1622
01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:07,893
Speaker 3: things in the Deep South and he's from Gore, and

1623
01:23:07,933 --> 01:23:09,853
Speaker 3: we're just going to be going a little bit west

1624
01:23:09,893 --> 01:23:13,053
Speaker 3: of there over to Heart and some of the delights

1625
01:23:13,693 --> 01:23:17,333
Speaker 3: along that kind of southern West Coast road, a bit

1626
01:23:17,373 --> 01:23:19,413
Speaker 3: of a road trip through there where our travel correspondent

1627
01:23:19,493 --> 01:23:21,693
Speaker 3: very shortly right now though it is twelve minutes past

1628
01:23:21,693 --> 01:23:25,413
Speaker 3: eleven in time to catch up with our sustainability commentator

1629
01:23:25,493 --> 01:23:30,453
Speaker 3: Kate Hall more dinner. It's so good to be chatting

1630
01:23:30,493 --> 01:23:33,333
Speaker 3: with you. You and I have a little bit in common

1631
01:23:33,373 --> 01:23:36,733
Speaker 3: at the moment in that we are both expanding our families.

1632
01:23:36,853 --> 01:23:39,053
Speaker 3: I am a couple of months ahear of you. I

1633
01:23:39,373 --> 01:23:42,813
Speaker 3: somehow don't feel like I have quite as difficult a

1634
01:23:42,893 --> 01:23:46,253
Speaker 3: job as you do in this department. But this morning

1635
01:23:46,773 --> 01:23:49,133
Speaker 3: you are tackling a bit of a thorny issue for

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01:23:49,213 --> 01:23:52,213
Speaker 3: lots of parents to be, which is how to be

1637
01:23:52,293 --> 01:23:57,133
Speaker 3: more sustainable when it comes to baby stuff, And my goodness,

1638
01:23:57,933 --> 01:23:59,493
Speaker 3: this is a Pandora's box.

1639
01:23:59,893 --> 01:24:00,253
Speaker 1: It is.

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01:24:00,453 --> 01:24:04,213
Speaker 25: It is honestly like, I've always been so excited for

1641
01:24:04,253 --> 01:24:06,213
Speaker 25: this season, knowing that I always want to be a mum,

1642
01:24:06,213 --> 01:24:08,653
Speaker 25: and you know, as ethically capes that will be uh,

1643
01:24:09,053 --> 01:24:13,853
Speaker 25: you know, I'll carry my values over into parenthoods. But yeah,

1644
01:24:13,933 --> 01:24:16,853
Speaker 25: I am learning so much every day. My burn brain

1645
01:24:16,973 --> 01:24:19,373
Speaker 25: is full. But I'm actually really excited to try all

1646
01:24:19,373 --> 01:24:22,533
Speaker 25: these things, you know, because I've always had an imperfect

1647
01:24:22,533 --> 01:24:26,973
Speaker 25: sustainability and a value set as a belief that you

1648
01:24:27,013 --> 01:24:29,853
Speaker 25: can't get it all right. But I'm just I'm intrigued

1649
01:24:29,853 --> 01:24:33,293
Speaker 25: to try these things and to know reflects back and

1650
01:24:33,373 --> 01:24:36,333
Speaker 25: knowing me as a without a child right now, I

1651
01:24:36,373 --> 01:24:38,933
Speaker 25: have all these ideas, but to see if they actually

1652
01:24:38,933 --> 01:24:39,333
Speaker 25: work well.

1653
01:24:39,373 --> 01:24:42,373
Speaker 3: So, as someone who has to be pretty online for

1654
01:24:42,453 --> 01:24:44,853
Speaker 3: their job, who's always on social media and stuff, have

1655
01:24:44,973 --> 01:24:47,213
Speaker 3: you found that your social media has just been completely

1656
01:24:47,293 --> 01:24:49,453
Speaker 3: overtaken with advertising for baby stuff?

1657
01:24:50,173 --> 01:24:50,373
Speaker 8: Yes?

1658
01:24:50,573 --> 01:24:52,613
Speaker 25: Yeah, it is everywhere.

1659
01:24:52,653 --> 01:24:55,093
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. It just changes overnight, all of it. But

1660
01:24:55,173 --> 01:24:57,373
Speaker 3: like all of my aunt, everything was like get this

1661
01:24:57,453 --> 01:25:00,333
Speaker 3: for your baby, and this and this and this. Really

1662
01:25:00,333 --> 01:25:01,293
Speaker 3: do I need this stuff?

1663
01:25:01,693 --> 01:25:03,613
Speaker 25: I know, and it's so good at marketing. They're so

1664
01:25:03,653 --> 01:25:05,653
Speaker 25: good at because you want the best for your child,

1665
01:25:05,853 --> 01:25:08,813
Speaker 25: right so you're like, well, of course I want the

1666
01:25:08,853 --> 01:25:12,813
Speaker 25: best thing for my dady. So so yeah, they're so

1667
01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:15,533
Speaker 25: clever and so sneaky that I'm also grateful. One of

1668
01:25:15,573 --> 01:25:17,893
Speaker 25: the great things about being an online presence you have

1669
01:25:17,933 --> 01:25:20,933
Speaker 25: this whole community of people who understand your values and

1670
01:25:20,973 --> 01:25:23,533
Speaker 25: then they're able to actually kind of give you the

1671
01:25:23,573 --> 01:25:26,373
Speaker 25: truth around what you need what you don't. But even then,

1672
01:25:26,493 --> 01:25:28,813
Speaker 25: some parents are like, oh, I really swore by this

1673
01:25:28,853 --> 01:25:33,653
Speaker 25: particular baby nail, you know, cutting cats, like it really

1674
01:25:33,653 --> 01:25:36,253
Speaker 25: saved our lives, and then everyone in there says, oh that,

1675
01:25:36,453 --> 01:25:39,693
Speaker 25: and a nimby is that, you know, my baby's nails off,

1676
01:25:39,773 --> 01:25:42,013
Speaker 25: So everyone also has a different experience.

1677
01:25:42,093 --> 01:25:44,613
Speaker 3: So maybe, but maybe kind of just trying to work

1678
01:25:44,653 --> 01:25:46,813
Speaker 3: out exactly what you do need and don't need is

1679
01:25:46,853 --> 01:25:48,453
Speaker 3: a good place to start if you're trying to have

1680
01:25:48,493 --> 01:25:50,813
Speaker 3: a sustainable approach totally.

1681
01:25:50,933 --> 01:25:54,213
Speaker 25: And also I found getting things sick in hand, So

1682
01:25:54,293 --> 01:25:57,133
Speaker 25: even on that baby nail cats thing, sometimes people use it,

1683
01:25:57,213 --> 01:26:00,733
Speaker 25: sometimes people don't. You know, It's really just so variable

1684
01:26:00,933 --> 01:26:03,773
Speaker 25: depending on the baby and the situation. So you know,

1685
01:26:03,853 --> 01:26:05,893
Speaker 25: I found one that was five dollars sick in hand,

1686
01:26:06,053 --> 01:26:08,533
Speaker 25: and if so don't end up using it. It's kind

1687
01:26:08,533 --> 01:26:10,973
Speaker 25: of you know, I haven't invested in the big piece

1688
01:26:11,013 --> 01:26:15,133
Speaker 25: of equipment. Most I'd say probably ninety five percent of

1689
01:26:15,173 --> 01:26:18,693
Speaker 25: the items we have ready for this baby second hand

1690
01:26:18,813 --> 01:26:21,573
Speaker 25: have been passed down from friends and family. Mainly a

1691
01:26:21,693 --> 01:26:24,253
Speaker 25: few we've you know, brought from second hand shops or

1692
01:26:24,293 --> 01:26:29,413
Speaker 25: trade me, Facebook marketplace. But there's just an abundance of

1693
01:26:29,533 --> 01:26:32,773
Speaker 25: baby stuff, as you will know that it exists, and

1694
01:26:32,853 --> 01:26:36,333
Speaker 25: if we just keep circulating circulating it around, you know,

1695
01:26:36,493 --> 01:26:39,173
Speaker 25: newborns aren'ts. I think when they get to kind of

1696
01:26:39,493 --> 01:26:41,893
Speaker 25: walking age, they're thrashing their stuff a little bit more.

1697
01:26:42,293 --> 01:26:45,893
Speaker 25: But especially for newborns, all that stuff can look like

1698
01:26:45,933 --> 01:26:46,973
Speaker 25: it's perfectly brand new.

1699
01:26:47,373 --> 01:26:48,573
Speaker 13: It's being used a lot.

1700
01:26:48,693 --> 01:26:50,733
Speaker 3: Sodare I ask, what are you doing for nappiece?

1701
01:26:51,693 --> 01:26:54,893
Speaker 25: Yes? This is honestly, this is strangely the thing I'm

1702
01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:59,173
Speaker 25: most excited about, because have you heard of elimination communication?

1703
01:27:00,213 --> 01:27:02,453
Speaker 3: No, when you cut someone out of your life, what.

1704
01:27:04,413 --> 01:27:07,373
Speaker 25: It sounds like it No, it's when you like, you're

1705
01:27:07,373 --> 01:27:13,413
Speaker 25: communicating around elimination, elimination being person wee. So in other countries,

1706
01:27:13,453 --> 01:27:15,213
Speaker 25: I know this is going to sound real whack, but

1707
01:27:15,573 --> 01:27:19,173
Speaker 25: bear with me. In other countries it is completely normal.

1708
01:27:20,013 --> 01:27:23,453
Speaker 25: And you know you can't actually buy neppies in large

1709
01:27:23,533 --> 01:27:27,333
Speaker 25: bundles because elimination communication is what they need, what they

1710
01:27:27,373 --> 01:27:31,533
Speaker 25: what they use. So it's basically it's a theory I've

1711
01:27:31,533 --> 01:27:34,613
Speaker 25: been researching for years. So I'm excited to finally have

1712
01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:38,853
Speaker 25: a little child to see if it works on. But

1713
01:27:38,933 --> 01:27:41,573
Speaker 25: you're communicating with a child from day one, you know,

1714
01:27:41,853 --> 01:27:45,293
Speaker 25: usually the child has cues around if it needs to

1715
01:27:45,333 --> 01:27:48,733
Speaker 25: be fed, if it needs to sleep. Babies always you'll

1716
01:27:48,773 --> 01:27:50,973
Speaker 25: know this from your you know, a few months old.

1717
01:27:51,373 --> 01:27:54,333
Speaker 25: You can tell when they need different things, and it's

1718
01:27:54,373 --> 01:27:57,213
Speaker 25: about recognizing those cues around when they need to go

1719
01:27:57,373 --> 01:28:01,653
Speaker 25: toilets and acknowledging those cues and giving them a chance

1720
01:28:01,773 --> 01:28:04,173
Speaker 25: to go on a potty, hold them over the toilets,

1721
01:28:04,253 --> 01:28:06,213
Speaker 25: go on a sink rather than so.

1722
01:28:06,493 --> 01:28:08,013
Speaker 3: And you told you're going to do this when they're

1723
01:28:08,773 --> 01:28:12,253
Speaker 3: brain new, when your baby's like step free shadowing my plan.

1724
01:28:12,533 --> 01:28:13,413
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's my plan.

1725
01:28:13,573 --> 01:28:15,573
Speaker 25: Yeah, And obviously we go in with a plan and

1726
01:28:15,933 --> 01:28:18,453
Speaker 25: very prepared to change it. But you know a lot

1727
01:28:18,453 --> 01:28:20,173
Speaker 25: of people say, oh, you know, you must have so

1728
01:28:20,293 --> 01:28:22,293
Speaker 25: much time to be able to do that, But most people,

1729
01:28:22,333 --> 01:28:24,413
Speaker 25: and I've seen this, I've literally seen that up close

1730
01:28:24,493 --> 01:28:26,693
Speaker 25: with friends in New Zealand to practice it. They have

1731
01:28:26,773 --> 01:28:29,333
Speaker 25: a kid who you know ends up being fourteen months

1732
01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:34,013
Speaker 25: old and they're potty trained, so it's a two way communication.

1733
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:38,493
Speaker 25: You also make qu queuing sounds when you're you know,

1734
01:28:38,813 --> 01:28:41,013
Speaker 25: I will be using reasonal nappies, but I will be

1735
01:28:41,013 --> 01:28:43,813
Speaker 25: giving them an opportunity to go on the potty and

1736
01:28:43,853 --> 01:28:46,453
Speaker 25: to go somewhere else, because no human, if they're a

1737
01:28:46,533 --> 01:28:50,533
Speaker 25: day old or forty years old, wants to follow themselves,

1738
01:28:50,893 --> 01:28:54,293
Speaker 25: you know that South instance. So yeah, it's friends. So

1739
01:28:54,333 --> 01:28:57,053
Speaker 25: it means hopefully I'm watching less three arsual nappies, but

1740
01:28:57,093 --> 01:28:59,693
Speaker 25: I'm using that combination of the two. But taught to

1741
01:28:59,693 --> 01:29:00,453
Speaker 25: me in a few months.

1742
01:29:00,853 --> 01:29:02,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, no good. I mean, look, you got to do

1743
01:29:02,733 --> 01:29:05,733
Speaker 3: what works for you. I mean, I yeah, I mean

1744
01:29:07,093 --> 01:29:09,173
Speaker 3: we'll talk in a few months and see how Honestly,

1745
01:29:09,253 --> 01:29:11,053
Speaker 3: I really hope that you can do this. I I

1746
01:29:11,573 --> 01:29:13,493
Speaker 3: if anyone's going to be able to pull it off,

1747
01:29:13,533 --> 01:29:20,213
Speaker 3: it's you. I reckon, Yeah, stranger when I think about it,

1748
01:29:20,213 --> 01:29:22,773
Speaker 3: it's actually not the number two's. I mean I reckon

1749
01:29:23,053 --> 01:29:25,093
Speaker 3: that there might be cue. I mean there are cues,

1750
01:29:25,133 --> 01:29:27,493
Speaker 3: of course, but there are cues like some of the time,

1751
01:29:27,733 --> 01:29:30,733
Speaker 3: you know, for for number twos and stuff, But the

1752
01:29:30,853 --> 01:29:33,693
Speaker 3: number ones there are very few cues in my experience,

1753
01:29:34,333 --> 01:29:37,013
Speaker 3: And so I just wonder if that might actually prove

1754
01:29:37,053 --> 01:29:37,933
Speaker 3: to be a trickier thing.

1755
01:29:38,533 --> 01:29:40,893
Speaker 25: Totally. I think that's not one hundred percent thing either.

1756
01:29:41,093 --> 01:29:43,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were to.

1757
01:29:43,453 --> 01:29:46,293
Speaker 25: Catch you know fifty more. Yeah, yeah, you know, like

1758
01:29:46,333 --> 01:29:49,093
Speaker 25: I have a friend with an eight week old and

1759
01:29:49,693 --> 01:29:52,853
Speaker 25: she was only changing one week, Like how cool?

1760
01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:57,173
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's amazing, that's incredible. Yeah, Okay, what's different,

1761
01:29:57,253 --> 01:29:59,853
Speaker 3: different story in our house at the moment. What about

1762
01:29:59,893 --> 01:30:01,773
Speaker 3: all the hand me downs and stuff, because you know,

1763
01:30:01,933 --> 01:30:03,733
Speaker 3: obviously that's a big part of having a kid, and

1764
01:30:04,493 --> 01:30:07,133
Speaker 3: you know, if you've got friends of children as well,

1765
01:30:07,213 --> 01:30:09,293
Speaker 3: they often say, oh, he's heaps of stuff. You know,

1766
01:30:09,773 --> 01:30:10,453
Speaker 3: how do you handle that?

1767
01:30:11,693 --> 01:30:16,053
Speaker 25: Yeah, I have I think instilling the values up front.

1768
01:30:16,293 --> 01:30:19,253
Speaker 25: And this is obviously the privilege I have of time

1769
01:30:19,333 --> 01:30:23,333
Speaker 25: and kind of pre pregnancy, letting kind of everyone know

1770
01:30:23,373 --> 01:30:26,213
Speaker 25: what our values are. So it has meant that when

1771
01:30:26,213 --> 01:30:28,693
Speaker 25: it comes to goos and things for the baby, people

1772
01:30:28,693 --> 01:30:32,493
Speaker 25: already kind of cleared up and clear on what type

1773
01:30:32,493 --> 01:30:35,533
Speaker 25: of things we may want. So if people do have

1774
01:30:35,813 --> 01:30:39,893
Speaker 25: that privilege of time and instilling those values beforehand, that

1775
01:30:40,053 --> 01:30:42,613
Speaker 25: is really really helpful because then it doesn't mean when

1776
01:30:42,893 --> 01:30:45,813
Speaker 25: you're pregnant you have a baby, people then just you know,

1777
01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:47,893
Speaker 25: throw all sorts of stuff at you. You're kind of

1778
01:30:47,933 --> 01:30:51,693
Speaker 25: you've already established who you are and your clear values

1779
01:30:51,733 --> 01:30:54,973
Speaker 25: to your friends and family. So yeah, that's key if

1780
01:30:55,053 --> 01:30:57,613
Speaker 25: you do have that privilege of kind of time and forethought.

1781
01:30:58,333 --> 01:31:01,853
Speaker 25: But I think being really clear. I've found saying no

1782
01:31:02,053 --> 01:31:04,213
Speaker 25: to people, you know, just that right, saying no we

1783
01:31:04,253 --> 01:31:06,853
Speaker 25: don't need a gift as actually can be quite rude

1784
01:31:07,053 --> 01:31:11,373
Speaker 25: because you're you're blocking their kind of channel of showing

1785
01:31:11,773 --> 01:31:13,573
Speaker 25: that they love you and they want to support you

1786
01:31:13,613 --> 01:31:17,053
Speaker 25: and this child, and and that's yeah, I think that's

1787
01:31:17,053 --> 01:31:19,653
Speaker 25: the road to to completely lock that. And also they're

1788
01:31:19,653 --> 01:31:23,053
Speaker 25: probably just going to get something anyway, So directing them

1789
01:31:23,093 --> 01:31:26,733
Speaker 25: to the right places. So directing them to cubs is

1790
01:31:26,773 --> 01:31:28,813
Speaker 25: really great online, so you can have a marketplace for

1791
01:31:29,413 --> 01:31:32,213
Speaker 25: kids stuff, you know, directing them to maybe a particular

1792
01:31:32,253 --> 01:31:35,653
Speaker 25: items that you need and telling them, you know, why

1793
01:31:35,693 --> 01:31:38,373
Speaker 25: you need it and what kind of specifications, just not

1794
01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:44,133
Speaker 25: saying a blanket no, because yeah, that doesn't that doesn't really.

1795
01:31:43,933 --> 01:31:44,933
Speaker 3: Work out of course.

1796
01:31:45,173 --> 01:31:49,333
Speaker 25: Yeah, and also just knowing like, honestly, we've not been

1797
01:31:49,373 --> 01:31:51,693
Speaker 25: given any stuff that we don't need or that I'm

1798
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:54,413
Speaker 25: you know, don't suit our values, which I'm so grateful

1799
01:31:54,453 --> 01:31:57,053
Speaker 25: for that people have really respected that. But I have

1800
01:31:57,213 --> 01:32:01,493
Speaker 25: had to say no to you know, different things we'my

1801
01:32:01,533 --> 01:32:05,133
Speaker 25: already have you know, multiple of that we don't need.

1802
01:32:05,213 --> 01:32:07,933
Speaker 25: And just even second hand, you don't want to be

1803
01:32:08,453 --> 01:32:12,213
Speaker 25: just overwhelmed in the whole lot of stuff in the house. Yeah, you're, yeah,

1804
01:32:12,333 --> 01:32:15,133
Speaker 25: trying to look after a new little person.

1805
01:32:15,293 --> 01:32:17,933
Speaker 6: So yeah, good.

1806
01:32:17,813 --> 01:32:21,453
Speaker 3: Luck, Kate. Really, I just I really hope you enjoy

1807
01:32:21,533 --> 01:32:23,533
Speaker 3: things as much as as possible. And it's just such

1808
01:32:23,573 --> 01:32:26,093
Speaker 3: an amazing little period. I'm going to be thinking of

1809
01:32:26,133 --> 01:32:27,933
Speaker 3: you and obviously wishing you all the best for this

1810
01:32:28,013 --> 01:32:30,973
Speaker 3: side of things, but you know, just more generally, good luck.

1811
01:32:31,333 --> 01:32:32,373
Speaker 25: Thank you, thanks.

1812
01:32:32,573 --> 01:32:33,413
Speaker 13: I'll probably need it.

1813
01:32:34,893 --> 01:32:38,373
Speaker 3: You're going to be great, You're going to be amazing. Yeah, yeah,

1814
01:32:38,413 --> 01:32:40,773
Speaker 3: all right. We look forward to catching up really soon

1815
01:32:41,093 --> 01:32:42,813
Speaker 3: Kate Hall. You can find her on the seat on

1816
01:32:42,853 --> 01:32:46,293
Speaker 3: the social media platforms, of course, by searching ethically Kate.

1817
01:32:46,693 --> 01:32:49,973
Speaker 1: Travel with Windy wo Tours, where the World is Yours

1818
01:32:50,093 --> 01:32:50,733
Speaker 1: for now.

1819
01:32:50,893 --> 01:32:53,213
Speaker 3: Twenty four pasts and living on New salkb Okay, We've

1820
01:32:53,213 --> 01:32:57,173
Speaker 3: got plenty of thoughts on Kate's plans. Don't worry about today.

1821
01:32:57,333 --> 01:32:59,173
Speaker 3: I'm going to get some of that feedback in a couples.

1822
01:32:59,173 --> 01:33:02,453
Speaker 3: Plenty of support for Kate as well. She certainly taking

1823
01:33:03,093 --> 01:33:05,813
Speaker 3: a braver stance than we are in our place, so

1824
01:33:05,933 --> 01:33:07,813
Speaker 3: I can en her for that. Right now, though, it

1825
01:33:07,853 --> 01:33:10,493
Speaker 3: is time to catch up with our travel correspondent Mike Yardley,

1826
01:33:10,573 --> 01:33:14,093
Speaker 3: who is going wild in Harst this morning. Cawder Mike

1827
01:33:14,253 --> 01:33:16,573
Speaker 3: good morning, Jack. I tell you what, this part of

1828
01:33:16,613 --> 01:33:20,493
Speaker 3: the country has to be one of the most beautiful,

1829
01:33:20,533 --> 01:33:22,533
Speaker 3: So I'm so glad you've got your top tips for us.

1830
01:33:22,573 --> 01:33:26,293
Speaker 3: If you're heading heading up from Wanica, there are sort

1831
01:33:26,293 --> 01:33:31,813
Speaker 3: of myriad roadside delights, aren't there on the Harst Pass Highway?

1832
01:33:32,133 --> 01:33:34,333
Speaker 8: Totally? Jack, You're just spoilt for choice.

1833
01:33:34,373 --> 01:33:36,693
Speaker 26: So the Old Pine passes only one hundred and forty

1834
01:33:36,733 --> 01:33:39,973
Speaker 26: kilometers in length, But what I love about it first

1835
01:33:40,013 --> 01:33:43,853
Speaker 26: of all, is it still exudes final frontier fields. You know,

1836
01:33:43,893 --> 01:33:47,973
Speaker 26: you just feel like you've entered another realm of New Zealand.

1837
01:33:48,693 --> 01:33:50,413
Speaker 8: Is you thread you away like a.

1838
01:33:50,373 --> 01:33:54,653
Speaker 26: Needle through south Westland's primeval forests and all those canyon

1839
01:33:54,733 --> 01:33:57,493
Speaker 26: like cliff walls. I just love those. But yes, you've

1840
01:33:57,533 --> 01:34:00,973
Speaker 26: got all sorts of roadside bushwalks that you can take

1841
01:34:00,973 --> 01:34:03,653
Speaker 26: your pick and choose from. All of them generally lead

1842
01:34:03,733 --> 01:34:07,213
Speaker 26: to waterfalls, So whether you wanted to check out Roaring

1843
01:34:07,253 --> 01:34:10,813
Speaker 26: Billy or Thundercreek or Fantail Falls, you're in luck with

1844
01:34:11,053 --> 01:34:14,413
Speaker 26: vertical aqua magic. But the biggest straw I think in

1845
01:34:14,453 --> 01:34:16,613
Speaker 26: this part of the country has been the blue poles.

1846
01:34:16,693 --> 01:34:19,533
Speaker 26: And if you were down this way over summer. You

1847
01:34:19,613 --> 01:34:23,773
Speaker 26: were probably disappointed because access has been limited due to

1848
01:34:23,813 --> 01:34:26,613
Speaker 26: a lot of reconstruction they've been doing to the boardwalks

1849
01:34:27,013 --> 01:34:29,773
Speaker 26: and the swing bridges at Blue Poles. The good news

1850
01:34:29,893 --> 01:34:32,573
Speaker 26: is if you want to do a late autumn early

1851
01:34:32,613 --> 01:34:36,613
Speaker 26: winter roadie around Hearst, it's all good to go. So

1852
01:34:36,813 --> 01:34:39,053
Speaker 26: it will be fully accessible in a couple of weeks.

1853
01:34:39,133 --> 01:34:39,333
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1854
01:34:39,453 --> 01:34:42,133
Speaker 3: Nice. And so if you're just heading north of Hearst,

1855
01:34:42,293 --> 01:34:45,373
Speaker 3: there's like a beautiful kind of west coast lookout at

1856
01:34:45,453 --> 01:34:46,053
Speaker 3: Knight's Point.

1857
01:34:46,133 --> 01:34:48,053
Speaker 8: Day that's right.

1858
01:34:48,173 --> 01:34:53,053
Speaker 26: Yes, you've got, first of all, some fabulous walks at Ship.

1859
01:34:52,813 --> 01:34:55,093
Speaker 8: Creek just south of Knights Point.

1860
01:34:55,373 --> 01:34:57,693
Speaker 26: And what I love about Ship's Creek jacket Ship got

1861
01:34:57,693 --> 01:35:02,573
Speaker 26: these vast stands of Hicetia trees that are seemingly interlocked.

1862
01:35:02,853 --> 01:35:06,173
Speaker 26: It's like that gripping onto each other to provide extras

1863
01:35:06,213 --> 01:35:10,173
Speaker 26: to in that dense coastal swamp. And then when you've

1864
01:35:10,373 --> 01:35:12,893
Speaker 26: finished checking that out heads the view of views at

1865
01:35:12,973 --> 01:35:16,893
Speaker 26: Knight's Points with all of those wavelashed ross rock stacks.

1866
01:35:17,613 --> 01:35:20,333
Speaker 26: I only just noticed this recently, but there's a memorial

1867
01:35:20,373 --> 01:35:24,133
Speaker 26: at that lookout commemorating the completion of the Hasst Highway.

1868
01:35:24,213 --> 01:35:28,813
Speaker 26: So this is where Westland was finally linked with Otiger.

1869
01:35:29,173 --> 01:35:33,733
Speaker 26: And if you're wondering about the name Knight's Point, cool story.

1870
01:35:34,213 --> 01:35:38,813
Speaker 26: The chief Surveyor's dog was called Knight, so a canine

1871
01:35:38,933 --> 01:35:40,173
Speaker 26: landed the naming rights.

1872
01:35:41,653 --> 01:35:43,573
Speaker 3: I like that. So if you're hitting a little bit

1873
01:35:43,573 --> 01:35:45,653
Speaker 3: further south in on the road to Jackson Bay, tell

1874
01:35:45,733 --> 01:35:48,293
Speaker 3: us about the wire Tautal River Safari.

1875
01:35:49,533 --> 01:35:52,333
Speaker 26: This blew me away, jack So this is backcountry jet

1876
01:35:52,333 --> 01:35:55,493
Speaker 26: boating at its very best, zipping you deep into the

1877
01:35:55,533 --> 01:35:59,213
Speaker 26: guts of Heart's alpine wilderness. So the right up the

1878
01:35:59,213 --> 01:36:02,533
Speaker 26: wire Tautal River is not a thrills and spills ride.

1879
01:36:03,013 --> 01:36:06,293
Speaker 26: You won't be getting the three sixties. Instead, you've just

1880
01:36:06,493 --> 01:36:10,493
Speaker 26: got nature, the primal pool of nature. And you'll even

1881
01:36:10,533 --> 01:36:14,773
Speaker 26: see the alpine fault gouging its imprint on the landscapes.

1882
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:18,373
Speaker 26: We stopped by this thriving Kiwi sentry on the edge

1883
01:36:18,373 --> 01:36:20,973
Speaker 26: of the river which is now home to four hundred

1884
01:36:21,053 --> 01:36:26,413
Speaker 26: brown Kiwi, and being a glacial river, of course, it's

1885
01:36:26,453 --> 01:36:30,173
Speaker 26: got that trademark milky blue hue thanks to the vaulta

1886
01:36:30,373 --> 01:36:33,293
Speaker 26: glacier at the top of the river. And then you've

1887
01:36:33,333 --> 01:36:37,853
Speaker 26: got these truck sized boulders that just tumble down from

1888
01:36:37,893 --> 01:36:40,733
Speaker 26: the Alps along the river side. And when you get

1889
01:36:40,773 --> 01:36:42,973
Speaker 26: closer to the Tasaman Sea, and we went all the

1890
01:36:43,013 --> 01:36:46,173
Speaker 26: way down to the sea, you just suddenly notice how

1891
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:48,453
Speaker 26: the water goes from milky blue to brackish brown.

1892
01:36:48,693 --> 01:36:50,133
Speaker 8: It's just got all the elements.

1893
01:36:50,213 --> 01:36:52,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds amazing. So how far into the back

1894
01:36:52,293 --> 01:36:53,493
Speaker 3: country do you actually go.

1895
01:36:55,133 --> 01:36:55,733
Speaker 8: Recollection?

1896
01:36:55,813 --> 01:36:58,293
Speaker 26: I think the full traverse was about thirty k so

1897
01:36:58,413 --> 01:37:01,173
Speaker 26: it would take you days and days of hiking and

1898
01:37:01,573 --> 01:37:07,253
Speaker 26: very formidable terrain to penetrate these parts. Went up as

1899
01:37:07,373 --> 01:37:12,053
Speaker 26: far as sharks tooth Rapids right upstream.

1900
01:37:12,613 --> 01:37:13,493
Speaker 8: I love that name.

1901
01:37:13,573 --> 01:37:15,253
Speaker 26: It's sort of a Disney sort of name is and

1902
01:37:15,373 --> 01:37:18,813
Speaker 26: it sharks tooth rapids. But from there you can sort

1903
01:37:18,853 --> 01:37:20,893
Speaker 26: of venture into the forest and check out all the

1904
01:37:20,933 --> 01:37:22,093
Speaker 26: potter carps.

1905
01:37:22,013 --> 01:37:23,373
Speaker 8: The orchids, the moss.

1906
01:37:23,413 --> 01:37:28,733
Speaker 26: Of course, it really is nature at its unmolested, unbowed best.

1907
01:37:29,013 --> 01:37:31,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what is if you're on the coast, what's

1908
01:37:31,613 --> 01:37:33,293
Speaker 3: so distinctive about Jackson Bay.

1909
01:37:34,613 --> 01:37:38,093
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's very close to Wyatautal River, so about another

1910
01:37:38,093 --> 01:37:40,773
Speaker 26: twenty minutes down that road. The end of the road,

1911
01:37:40,973 --> 01:37:43,773
Speaker 26: you really do feel like you've reached journey's end.

1912
01:37:43,813 --> 01:37:45,973
Speaker 8: At this back of beyond fishing village.

1913
01:37:46,693 --> 01:37:50,973
Speaker 26: The wharf is probably the great statement of Jackson Bay

1914
01:37:51,013 --> 01:37:53,333
Speaker 26: because it's nearly ninety years old and it just so

1915
01:37:53,733 --> 01:37:59,253
Speaker 26: strikingly stretches out deep into the sea, and this is

1916
01:37:59,293 --> 01:38:03,653
Speaker 26: the only sheltered harbor between Graymouth and Milford Sound. But

1917
01:38:03,773 --> 01:38:06,493
Speaker 26: like a lot of spots in southwest New Zealand, to

1918
01:38:06,613 --> 01:38:10,173
Speaker 26: jack Jackson Bay was subject to one of those ridiculous

1919
01:38:10,213 --> 01:38:13,693
Speaker 26: settlement plans in the nineteenth century. So we had hundreds

1920
01:38:13,733 --> 01:38:17,573
Speaker 26: of Poles and Irish and Italians and Scandies and Germans,

1921
01:38:17,853 --> 01:38:21,373
Speaker 26: all lured to Jackson Bay by some half assed government

1922
01:38:21,453 --> 01:38:26,413
Speaker 26: scheme to tame the wild, and within three years, because

1923
01:38:26,453 --> 01:38:29,813
Speaker 26: of the lack of fertile flat land, the isolation, the

1924
01:38:29,973 --> 01:38:33,253
Speaker 26: rain and the sandflies, most of them had fled.

1925
01:38:33,293 --> 01:38:34,493
Speaker 8: They just couldn't handle it.

1926
01:38:34,693 --> 01:38:38,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gosh, it is just like an amazing part

1927
01:38:38,453 --> 01:38:39,773
Speaker 3: of the country and kind of like the end of

1928
01:38:39,773 --> 01:38:42,133
Speaker 3: the line, right Jackson Bay when you're you're heading down

1929
01:38:42,173 --> 01:38:44,333
Speaker 3: that weast coast. So what's on the menu at the craypot?

1930
01:38:44,373 --> 01:38:46,173
Speaker 3: Aside from the obvious.

1931
01:38:47,413 --> 01:38:50,653
Speaker 26: Yes, indeed, Well, Jackson Bay is still a thriving fishing

1932
01:38:50,693 --> 01:38:53,733
Speaker 26: port and catch of the day man alive. They have

1933
01:38:53,813 --> 01:38:56,973
Speaker 26: got their own definition to catch of the day. The Americans,

1934
01:38:56,973 --> 01:39:00,813
Speaker 26: of course go gaga over the larbster, the crayfish. There's

1935
01:39:00,853 --> 01:39:03,813
Speaker 26: always white bait, of course, but I don't think you

1936
01:39:03,813 --> 01:39:08,053
Speaker 26: can get past that. JOI again took blue cod that

1937
01:39:08,213 --> 01:39:10,573
Speaker 26: is served on plates and Jackson Bay. It is just

1938
01:39:10,973 --> 01:39:16,413
Speaker 26: astronomically sized, by the way, the crapepod. Such a fascinating backstory.

1939
01:39:16,493 --> 01:39:21,213
Speaker 26: So this caravan Stylesy actually began life as Timaru's pie card.

1940
01:39:21,773 --> 01:39:24,173
Speaker 26: Then it moved to Cromwell in the eighties to feed

1941
01:39:24,213 --> 01:39:27,453
Speaker 26: the Clyde Dan workers, and about twenty five years ago

1942
01:39:27,493 --> 01:39:30,813
Speaker 26: a Haarst local bought it toad it over Halst to

1943
01:39:30,853 --> 01:39:31,893
Speaker 26: pass on a tractor.

1944
01:39:33,093 --> 01:39:35,093
Speaker 8: Jackson Bay icon was born.

1945
01:39:35,213 --> 01:39:36,373
Speaker 3: So it is.

1946
01:39:36,453 --> 01:39:39,693
Speaker 26: Definitely a Kiwi classic to add to what is a

1947
01:39:39,773 --> 01:39:41,933
Speaker 26: real banger of a road trip in the heart region.

1948
01:39:42,013 --> 01:39:42,213
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1949
01:39:42,253 --> 01:39:44,093
Speaker 3: Look, it's one of those parts of the country you

1950
01:39:44,173 --> 01:39:46,973
Speaker 3: only go there if you're going there, right, But my goodness,

1951
01:39:47,013 --> 01:39:48,613
Speaker 3: it's worth it. It's not on the way too anywhere,

1952
01:39:48,653 --> 01:39:50,853
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, it's very much the line on

1953
01:39:50,853 --> 01:39:54,613
Speaker 3: that Wesk coast. Yeah, but my god, just yeah, it is.

1954
01:39:54,773 --> 01:39:57,253
Speaker 3: It is just stunning. I remember going on to the

1955
01:39:57,293 --> 01:40:00,253
Speaker 3: family road trips down there and driving along that west

1956
01:40:00,293 --> 01:40:02,893
Speaker 3: coast just north of Jackson's Bay, and like you can

1957
01:40:02,933 --> 01:40:05,573
Speaker 3: kind of just stop anywhere. And I remember one time

1958
01:40:05,613 --> 01:40:07,733
Speaker 3: like we didn't I feel like this might be saying

1959
01:40:07,773 --> 01:40:09,053
Speaker 3: too much here, but I feel like we didn't have

1960
01:40:09,093 --> 01:40:11,253
Speaker 3: our togs and it was like, oh, well, I'm not

1961
01:40:11,293 --> 01:40:12,893
Speaker 3: going to go swimming in the ocean if I don't

1962
01:40:12,933 --> 01:40:14,333
Speaker 3: have any talks. And it was like, well, hang on,

1963
01:40:15,133 --> 01:40:18,253
Speaker 3: we could actually skinnied it because no one is going

1964
01:40:18,333 --> 01:40:21,893
Speaker 3: to be seeing us like this. It's untouched world country

1965
01:40:21,893 --> 01:40:25,173
Speaker 3: down there, you know. Thank you so much. Mike really

1966
01:40:25,253 --> 01:40:28,173
Speaker 3: appreciate it. And we'll make sure all negatives are on

1967
01:40:28,213 --> 01:40:29,893
Speaker 3: the news talks Z'DB website.

1968
01:40:30,013 --> 01:40:30,773
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.

1969
01:40:31,013 --> 01:40:35,093
Speaker 3: I just realized that says weird. Don't worry. We didn't, well,

1970
01:40:35,133 --> 01:40:36,533
Speaker 3: at least started to put it this way. I don't

1971
01:40:36,573 --> 01:40:38,893
Speaker 3: remember the whole family skinny thing. That would have been

1972
01:40:38,893 --> 01:40:42,333
Speaker 3: a weird It would have been a weird thing. I

1973
01:40:42,413 --> 01:40:45,253
Speaker 3: supposed to point was that we could have if we've

1974
01:40:45,293 --> 01:40:48,093
Speaker 3: been into that kind of thing. Hey, thank you for

1975
01:40:48,133 --> 01:40:52,573
Speaker 3: your feedback regarding toilet training babies. Jack My auntie did

1976
01:40:52,573 --> 01:40:56,333
Speaker 3: it back in the seventies, hardly any messy nappies is Sally, Yes,

1977
01:40:56,493 --> 01:40:59,453
Speaker 3: Jack fantastic here and Kate a woman who's sensible. Back

1978
01:40:59,453 --> 01:41:01,333
Speaker 3: in the olden days, we all had our kids potty

1979
01:41:01,333 --> 01:41:03,573
Speaker 3: trained well before too. Jack. I put the three kids

1980
01:41:03,573 --> 01:41:05,733
Speaker 3: on the potty at each feed after we came home

1981
01:41:05,733 --> 01:41:08,293
Speaker 3: from hospital, and believe me, it works. That was more

1982
01:41:08,333 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 3: than fifty years ago, says Jenny. Thank you ninety two

1983
01:41:11,293 --> 01:41:12,893
Speaker 3: ninety two. If you want to send us a message

1984
01:41:12,973 --> 01:41:15,133
Speaker 3: right now, it is twenty seven to twelve.

1985
01:41:18,773 --> 01:41:22,653
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1986
01:41:23,133 --> 01:41:24,693
Speaker 1: on news talksb.

1987
01:41:28,373 --> 01:41:36,533
Speaker 27: Jess beanted from this.

1988
01:41:37,733 --> 01:41:40,853
Speaker 3: It is Rihanna. How about that? This is the first Rihanna,

1989
01:41:41,773 --> 01:41:45,453
Speaker 3: first new music from re Rea since twenty sixteen. That's

1990
01:41:45,453 --> 01:41:49,133
Speaker 3: crazy as crazy. Jason Pine has taken aback and he

1991
01:41:49,213 --> 01:41:51,213
Speaker 3: is a keen Rihanna fan, so you think that he

1992
01:41:51,253 --> 01:41:55,813
Speaker 3: would know of anyone. But get this, pony. This is

1993
01:41:56,173 --> 01:41:59,053
Speaker 3: the song school Friend of Mine. It's been released for

1994
01:41:59,093 --> 01:42:04,893
Speaker 3: the Smurfs movie. So the special occasion, I suppose, well occasion,

1995
01:42:05,133 --> 01:42:07,253
Speaker 3: something's got to get her out of nine years of

1996
01:42:07,333 --> 01:42:09,413
Speaker 3: an activity. Well I don't know, I mean inactivity might

1997
01:42:09,453 --> 01:42:11,373
Speaker 3: be a bit rich in activity on the music front.

1998
01:42:11,413 --> 01:42:13,413
Speaker 3: She does have her some business. Empire's less more than

1999
01:42:13,413 --> 01:42:14,893
Speaker 3: a billion dollars now, I think or something doesn't do

2000
01:42:15,053 --> 01:42:17,253
Speaker 3: so yes, I don't think she's too you just sitting

2001
01:42:17,253 --> 01:42:19,653
Speaker 3: on her hands, But anyway, love a bit of rebad.

2002
01:42:20,493 --> 01:42:24,653
Speaker 3: Massive day, massive day for football fans in New Zealand

2003
01:42:24,693 --> 01:42:26,893
Speaker 3: the first League of the away in home or home

2004
01:42:26,933 --> 01:42:29,333
Speaker 3: and away semi finals of the A League Aukland FC

2005
01:42:29,573 --> 01:42:31,493
Speaker 3: in Melbourne tonight. What do you expect that?

2006
01:42:31,693 --> 01:42:31,853
Speaker 4: Well?

2007
01:42:32,493 --> 01:42:35,013
Speaker 28: I really don't know. That's the odd thing is that

2008
01:42:35,133 --> 01:42:37,413
Speaker 28: such an unusual situation and that normally a game of

2009
01:42:37,453 --> 01:42:39,053
Speaker 28: football you go out there, you're playing ninety minutes and

2010
01:42:39,053 --> 01:42:40,693
Speaker 28: there's a win, a loss or a draw at the

2011
01:42:40,773 --> 01:42:43,293
Speaker 28: end of it. At ninety minutes tonight we're only at

2012
01:42:43,293 --> 01:42:45,813
Speaker 28: half time effectively in the semi final, with it being

2013
01:42:45,813 --> 01:42:48,213
Speaker 28: as you say, home and away. So how will Auckland

2014
01:42:48,253 --> 01:42:50,813
Speaker 28: FC approach it? Is the thing that I'm most curious about.

2015
01:42:51,453 --> 01:42:53,253
Speaker 28: I don't know whether it's in their DNA to go

2016
01:42:53,333 --> 01:42:56,213
Speaker 28: over there and just play conservatively and try and get

2017
01:42:56,213 --> 01:42:58,733
Speaker 28: back with a drawer. I think if you said to them, hey,

2018
01:42:59,333 --> 01:43:02,413
Speaker 28: you know this is totally hypothetical. Your draw tonight. Would

2019
01:43:02,413 --> 01:43:05,653
Speaker 28: you take that? They would say probably yes, But I

2020
01:43:05,693 --> 01:43:07,373
Speaker 28: don't know that they'll gone with there, go there and

2021
01:43:07,413 --> 01:43:08,173
Speaker 28: play for the drawer.

2022
01:43:08,293 --> 01:43:10,653
Speaker 3: No, no, No, that would be a mistake, wouldn't it. Yeah,

2023
01:43:10,653 --> 01:43:13,533
Speaker 3: I mean so a couple one thing maybe makes me

2024
01:43:13,573 --> 01:43:16,853
Speaker 3: a little bit nervous. I don't love having a week

2025
01:43:16,933 --> 01:43:19,973
Speaker 3: off and then playing their away league. I mean it

2026
01:43:20,013 --> 01:43:22,293
Speaker 3: makes sense in the grand context of the season, right,

2027
01:43:22,333 --> 01:43:24,293
Speaker 3: if you're going to choose whether to play away or

2028
01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:27,573
Speaker 3: home first. Yeah, maybe playing away first and then finishing

2029
01:43:27,613 --> 01:43:29,253
Speaker 3: things at home is a good way to do things.

2030
01:43:29,253 --> 01:43:31,053
Speaker 3: But I don't, you know, it just feels like, uh,

2031
01:43:31,853 --> 01:43:33,373
Speaker 3: you know, I get it.

2032
01:43:33,693 --> 01:43:36,213
Speaker 28: Yeah, And once they get back home next Saturday, it

2033
01:43:36,213 --> 01:43:37,733
Speaker 28: would have been a month since they were there because

2034
01:43:37,773 --> 01:43:39,373
Speaker 28: they played Perth and they came where they lifted the

2035
01:43:39,413 --> 01:43:41,933
Speaker 28: Premiers Play, then they were away at Western United. It's

2036
01:43:42,013 --> 01:43:44,573
Speaker 28: just say, week off, last week away tonight. So by

2037
01:43:44,573 --> 01:43:46,853
Speaker 28: the time they get back to go Media Stadium next Saturday,

2038
01:43:46,893 --> 01:43:48,373
Speaker 28: it's going to go off like a bit of a

2039
01:43:48,373 --> 01:43:48,853
Speaker 28: powder keg.

2040
01:43:48,933 --> 01:43:49,093
Speaker 5: Look.

2041
01:43:49,093 --> 01:43:51,693
Speaker 28: I've been talking a lot this week about what would

2042
01:43:51,693 --> 01:43:56,933
Speaker 28: be what would be an unassailable lead. For example, like

2043
01:43:57,053 --> 01:43:59,533
Speaker 28: last night in the other semi Melbourne City bit Western

2044
01:43:59,613 --> 01:44:02,893
Speaker 28: United three nil. Yeah, they've got one foot in the final. Yeah,

2045
01:44:02,933 --> 01:44:06,333
Speaker 28: so I think coming home one nil down is proper

2046
01:44:06,373 --> 01:44:10,693
Speaker 28: probably Okay, any more than that and it gets just

2047
01:44:10,813 --> 01:44:11,973
Speaker 28: a little bit difficult.

2048
01:44:12,053 --> 01:44:15,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesse Randall, that's my pick. I reckon, he's looked

2049
01:44:15,533 --> 01:44:17,333
Speaker 3: really good. I want to see a little bit more

2050
01:44:17,373 --> 01:44:19,813
Speaker 3: game time company seeim, he's like really good that the

2051
01:44:20,013 --> 01:44:22,093
Speaker 3: minutes to goals ratio. He's quick too.

2052
01:44:22,293 --> 01:44:22,493
Speaker 8: Yep.

2053
01:44:22,653 --> 01:44:24,453
Speaker 28: He's got a lot about him and he's a bit

2054
01:44:24,493 --> 01:44:27,653
Speaker 28: more of an unknown quantity, having not played as often

2055
01:44:27,693 --> 01:44:29,853
Speaker 28: as the likes of Logan Rogers and Natim what I

2056
01:44:29,893 --> 01:44:31,373
Speaker 28: know and others. So yeah, look, I think and we

2057
01:44:31,453 --> 01:44:34,093
Speaker 28: know Max matter hasn't traveled. So there is a vacancy

2058
01:44:34,093 --> 01:44:36,693
Speaker 28: in the starting eleven. Maybe it's a man Jesse Randall

2059
01:44:36,733 --> 01:44:38,573
Speaker 28: who lights up Amy Park tonight.

2060
01:44:38,693 --> 01:44:41,533
Speaker 3: Maybe he's hoping what else you got for us this afternoon.

2061
01:44:41,573 --> 01:44:43,413
Speaker 28: I've got a couple of issues to dig into. One

2062
01:44:43,493 --> 01:44:45,653
Speaker 28: is that of there was a new story during the

2063
01:44:45,653 --> 01:44:47,493
Speaker 28: week about a nine year old boy who can't play

2064
01:44:47,573 --> 01:44:50,213
Speaker 28: rugby with his mates because he's over the weight limit,

2065
01:44:50,733 --> 01:44:54,573
Speaker 28: a barrier to children participating in sport. Look, we understand

2066
01:44:54,573 --> 01:44:56,773
Speaker 28: the rationale for it, but hackn barriers like this and

2067
01:44:56,813 --> 01:44:59,333
Speaker 28: others be removed. Going to draw into that, how much

2068
01:44:59,373 --> 01:45:00,933
Speaker 28: should you pay to go and go to an all

2069
01:45:00,933 --> 01:45:04,213
Speaker 28: blacks test match? And it's going to live sport now,

2070
01:45:04,253 --> 01:45:06,733
Speaker 28: something which is beyond the reach of your average key

2071
01:45:06,773 --> 01:45:10,213
Speaker 28: we family, because you look at prices for all blacks

2072
01:45:10,213 --> 01:45:11,773
Speaker 28: test matches in particular, and.

2073
01:45:12,173 --> 01:45:13,773
Speaker 3: It costs a lot of money, Jack to go and

2074
01:45:13,773 --> 01:45:16,213
Speaker 3: watch your blacks. Yeah, it does. Yeah, So we'll draw

2075
01:45:16,253 --> 01:45:16,733
Speaker 3: it down into that.

2076
01:45:16,773 --> 01:45:18,573
Speaker 28: We've got some golf on the show, Ryan Fox with

2077
01:45:18,613 --> 01:45:21,333
Speaker 28: another good round over nineties within four shots of the

2078
01:45:21,453 --> 01:45:24,413
Speaker 28: lead after two rounds of the PGA Championship, and a

2079
01:45:24,533 --> 01:45:26,413
Speaker 28: bit of Auckland f C and other bits and pieces

2080
01:45:26,453 --> 01:45:28,453
Speaker 28: as well, and the Hurricanes beat the Hindus last night.

2081
01:45:29,053 --> 01:45:33,733
Speaker 3: We've talked about it too much, Thank you, sir. Jason

2082
01:45:33,773 --> 01:45:35,773
Speaker 3: Vine will be with us in about twenty five minutes

2083
01:45:35,813 --> 01:45:38,013
Speaker 3: or so, right after the midday news with Weekend Sport.

2084
01:45:38,053 --> 01:45:39,693
Speaker 3: Before then, we're going to play some new music from

2085
01:45:39,733 --> 01:45:42,093
Speaker 3: Jenny Mitchell and next up, oh, we're going to tell

2086
01:45:42,133 --> 01:45:44,533
Speaker 3: you about this new book called The Cia Book Club.

2087
01:45:44,613 --> 01:45:46,973
Speaker 3: I know you should never judge books by their covers,

2088
01:45:46,973 --> 01:45:49,413
Speaker 3: all their titles, But I am into this one.

2089
01:45:49,453 --> 01:45:53,693
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

2090
01:45:53,973 --> 01:45:55,293
Speaker 1: parlered by News Talks.

2091
01:45:55,213 --> 01:45:58,533
Speaker 3: B eighteen to twelve on New stooksa'd be Katherine Rains

2092
01:45:58,533 --> 01:46:02,173
Speaker 3: has our book picks this weekend. Hey Catherine, Morning Jack.

2093
01:46:02,413 --> 01:46:06,213
Speaker 3: Let's begin with The CIA Book Club by Charlie English.

2094
01:46:06,573 --> 01:46:10,293
Speaker 29: So this is nonfiction and it takes place in the eighties,

2095
01:46:10,453 --> 01:46:14,373
Speaker 29: and there's a CIA boss called George Maiden who believed

2096
01:46:14,413 --> 01:46:17,413
Speaker 29: that the freedom of to read good literature was just

2097
01:46:17,453 --> 01:46:20,933
Speaker 29: as important to the people's minds in the Soviet Empire

2098
01:46:20,973 --> 01:46:23,133
Speaker 29: as any other form of freedom that they could have

2099
01:46:23,453 --> 01:46:26,093
Speaker 29: or didn't have, as the case may be. And during

2100
01:46:26,133 --> 01:46:28,533
Speaker 29: the nineteen eighties, the CIA was run by a guy

2101
01:46:28,573 --> 01:46:31,413
Speaker 29: called Bill Casey who'd been appointed by Ronald Reagan in

2102
01:46:31,453 --> 01:46:34,333
Speaker 29: eighty one, and it's under him that Maiden was able

2103
01:46:34,373 --> 01:46:38,373
Speaker 29: to set his scheme essentially up to push books and

2104
01:46:38,373 --> 01:46:41,773
Speaker 29: photocopies and printing presses into parts of the Soviet Empire.

2105
01:46:42,293 --> 01:46:46,453
Speaker 29: And this book focuses on Poland and particularly the kind

2106
01:46:46,453 --> 01:46:49,453
Speaker 29: of literature that they sent and about Western culture was

2107
01:46:49,493 --> 01:46:54,893
Speaker 29: exactly what the Communists didn't want. And you know another

2108
01:46:55,013 --> 01:46:57,813
Speaker 29: character also that features really predominantly and this is an

2109
01:46:57,893 --> 01:47:02,093
Speaker 29: underground Polish publisher, a guy called Musau Chekhov who endured

2110
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:05,733
Speaker 29: beatings and force feeding and exile. And but George Maiden

2111
01:47:05,773 --> 01:47:09,333
Speaker 29: was really almost the mastermind behind sending this this literature.

2112
01:47:09,413 --> 01:47:12,813
Speaker 29: And the book's quite complex. There's lots of different people

2113
01:47:12,853 --> 01:47:15,613
Speaker 29: and there's but the chapter's actually become separate parts of

2114
01:47:15,653 --> 01:47:17,973
Speaker 29: the story and it actually helps you keep track of

2115
01:47:18,053 --> 01:47:21,093
Speaker 29: who's who and who's doing what. And what becomes clear

2116
01:47:21,253 --> 01:47:25,333
Speaker 29: is the extent of the Polish real gens attempts to

2117
01:47:25,373 --> 01:47:29,053
Speaker 29: suppress this non state approved information. And not only were

2118
01:47:29,093 --> 01:47:31,893
Speaker 29: books banned, but every typewriter had to be registered, access

2119
01:47:31,933 --> 01:47:35,013
Speaker 29: to every photocopyer is restricted, and it even needed a

2120
01:47:35,053 --> 01:47:38,533
Speaker 29: permit to buy paper in any quantity. And even if

2121
01:47:38,573 --> 01:47:40,613
Speaker 29: you wanted to create a business card in Poland, you know,

2122
01:47:40,893 --> 01:47:42,653
Speaker 29: or a rubber stamp or even a sheet of music,

2123
01:47:42,693 --> 01:47:45,333
Speaker 29: it had to be approved by a sensor. So there's

2124
01:47:45,333 --> 01:47:47,693
Speaker 29: all sorts of things going on. And in fact, one

2125
01:47:47,773 --> 01:47:49,933
Speaker 29: man was even given an eight year sentence for simply

2126
01:47:49,973 --> 01:47:52,573
Speaker 29: distributing a flyer, So you can imagine what would happen

2127
01:47:52,613 --> 01:47:55,653
Speaker 29: if you were caught with an illicit printing press and

2128
01:47:55,693 --> 01:47:59,213
Speaker 29: this book really demonstrates in an incredible way about how

2129
01:47:59,213 --> 01:48:01,093
Speaker 29: the written word can be a weapon in that fight

2130
01:48:01,173 --> 01:48:04,053
Speaker 29: for freedom, and how banning books in order to suppress

2131
01:48:04,093 --> 01:48:07,653
Speaker 29: freedom of thought and speech is actually ultimately, ultimately was

2132
01:48:07,733 --> 01:48:10,893
Speaker 29: doomed to fail. And it's you know, there's lots of

2133
01:48:10,933 --> 01:48:13,853
Speaker 29: stories in here about smuggling and intrigue and survival, and

2134
01:48:13,893 --> 01:48:17,253
Speaker 29: you know, it's a real reminder of those extraordinary events

2135
01:48:17,373 --> 01:48:20,093
Speaker 29: Poland's struggle for freedom and you know, really interesting and

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Speaker 29: it wasn't something I had no idea that the CIA

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Speaker 29: Book Club as it's been turned here ever existed. And

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Speaker 29: it's fascinating just you know, and also about the culture

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Speaker 29: and the people and what was going on. So you know,

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Speaker 29: surrounded by that time, really interesting read.

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Speaker 3: Very good. Okay. I next up The Names by Florence Knapp.

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Speaker 29: So this book begins in October nineteen eighty seven, and

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Speaker 29: this young woman, kra Aitken, and her nine year old

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01:48:42,733 --> 01:48:45,573
Speaker 29: daughter Maya are going to a London government office to

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Speaker 29: register the name of their new little baby. Cora's husband

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Speaker 29: is a guy called Gordon, and he's a very well

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Speaker 29: liked physician, and he assumes that the boy will be

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Speaker 29: named Gordon as all of the men and his family are,

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Speaker 29: but Kra when she gets there, he hesitates. She prefers

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Speaker 29: that history will repeat itself and that her son will

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Speaker 29: become a mirror image of his father, and a man who,

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Speaker 29: like his own father, is incredibly controlling and has a

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Speaker 29: very toxic nature, and he hides this behind this mask

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Speaker 29: of prestige. And so she's trapped in this marriage, and

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Speaker 29: she realizes that this is kind of almost her one

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Speaker 29: chance to change the course of her son's life, and

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Speaker 29: she could choose a different name like Bears her zorter suggests,

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Speaker 29: or the name that she would like to give the baby,

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Speaker 29: which is Julian, and this single decision that she makes

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Speaker 29: at that point, the book splinters into three different futures,

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Speaker 29: so you follow the lives of Bear, Julian, or Gordon

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Speaker 29: told in seven year intervals across thirty five years, so

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Speaker 29: you get the stories of each of those characters.

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Speaker 10: And what the question that.

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Speaker 29: The author's asking is that can a name shape your

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Speaker 29: entire path? Does it make you brave or creative or

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Speaker 29: does it make you like your namesake? And can you

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Speaker 29: follow your passions and your relationships or even your future,

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Speaker 29: and asking about how much of our life is inevitable,

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Speaker 29: and how much we controlled and in that single moment

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01:50:00,813 --> 01:50:03,453
Speaker 29: defining a person's life and shape in future. And it

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01:50:03,533 --> 01:50:05,493
Speaker 29: was fascinating and it was interesting, and it was a

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01:50:05,613 --> 01:50:08,613
Speaker 29: very powerful story retailing. And I loved the different you know,

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Speaker 29: like how the different characters and the different parts just

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Speaker 29: all on this split second decision take a completely different path.

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Speaker 29: It's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: You're wonderful, Okay, cool. That's the Names by Florence Knapp.

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Speaker 3: The CIA Book Club by Charlie English was Catherine's first pick,

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Speaker 3: and a couple of minutes on news talks, he'd be

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Speaker 3: new music from country artist Jenny Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

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Speaker 1: Know Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and vpure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot Nz for high quality supplements.

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Speaker 8: Used Talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 27: I am a teacher, patient kind watching and wonder as

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Speaker 27: you learn and fine hom and teacher and the teacher

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Speaker 27: is watching.

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Speaker 15: Horrive, Soldier, margin, keep you stay from the lives, whispers.

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Speaker 3: And chee some such. This song is called Sister. It's

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Speaker 3: by Jenny Mitchell and it features the Mitchell Sisters. Her

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Speaker 3: new album is Forest House and Estelle Clifford has been

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Speaker 3: listening and is with us this morning.

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Speaker 12: Hey how Hello, what a cool sound. Yeah, it's called

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01:51:25,973 --> 01:51:29,293
Speaker 12: Sister and it is sung with her sisters, the Mitchell Twins,

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01:51:30,373 --> 01:51:32,893
Speaker 12: who she also gets to go on tour and perform with.

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Speaker 12: And it's just that beautiful. I mean I've said it

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01:51:36,013 --> 01:51:39,733
Speaker 12: many many times before, but the old sibling or family harmonies,

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01:51:39,773 --> 01:51:44,093
Speaker 12: that their voice is just rock and we're just embracing

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Speaker 12: all things country because that's where we're at, a like,

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01:51:47,973 --> 01:51:51,733
Speaker 12: the country music world is just skyrocketing off the planet

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Speaker 12: and curedos to that here in New Zealand because we've

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Speaker 12: alreadys had some incredible stars doing country music and Jenny

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01:51:59,253 --> 01:52:01,653
Speaker 12: Mitchell is definitely one of those people who is leading

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01:52:01,653 --> 01:52:07,653
Speaker 12: away beautiful song harmonizing, amazing natural pairing. It's just it's wonderful.

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01:52:07,853 --> 01:52:09,613
Speaker 12: This is a really cool body of work for her.

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01:52:09,693 --> 01:52:12,693
Speaker 12: I follow Jenny right from the beginning, and I think

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01:52:12,693 --> 01:52:16,693
Speaker 12: in this album she's really honed her craft. She's honed

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01:52:16,733 --> 01:52:19,533
Speaker 12: her storytelling, and again that's what country music is, right,

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Speaker 12: just wonderful lyrics, but not so many. I don't think

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01:52:24,333 --> 01:52:26,613
Speaker 12: she does the country cliche things so much.

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01:52:26,653 --> 01:52:27,733
Speaker 3: I think she's quite.

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Speaker 12: Clever with what she does, and I really like that

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01:52:30,933 --> 01:52:33,133
Speaker 12: because at first you were taken away with the beautiful

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01:52:33,173 --> 01:52:37,293
Speaker 12: maladies and the beautiful guitar strumming and there's banjo in there.

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01:52:38,253 --> 01:52:42,013
Speaker 12: Just melodically it's so beautiful. But then you start singing

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Speaker 12: into those lyrics and they're clever and they're really great.

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Speaker 12: There's a great song on here actually called Daffodils, and

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01:52:47,413 --> 01:52:49,333
Speaker 12: it's kind of about the passing of time and the

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01:52:49,373 --> 01:52:52,093
Speaker 12: passage of time, and it's actually a duet she does

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Speaker 12: with her dad and he is sounding all Johnny Cash

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01:52:55,213 --> 01:52:57,773
Speaker 12: on it, Like I was like, Wow, this guy's got

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01:52:57,773 --> 01:53:01,013
Speaker 12: an incredible voice. One of the lines is it's hard

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01:53:01,093 --> 01:53:04,333
Speaker 12: to live quicker than age. Oh yeah, And when you

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01:53:04,373 --> 01:53:06,093
Speaker 12: know it's a song she's doing with her dad as well,

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01:53:06,133 --> 01:53:09,413
Speaker 12: adds this whole other emotional level, and I think that's

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Speaker 12: something she is embraced so beautifully in this album. There's

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Speaker 12: a real raw, vulnerable, but emotional connection because Forest House,

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01:53:18,133 --> 01:53:20,773
Speaker 12: she's embracing all the things that have made up her life,

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01:53:21,573 --> 01:53:24,053
Speaker 12: very connected to her wrote. There is some real rural,

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01:53:24,173 --> 01:53:27,733
Speaker 12: southern kind of picture painting, and some of the music

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01:53:27,733 --> 01:53:31,653
Speaker 12: that you'll hear so just a really cool It starts

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01:53:31,653 --> 01:53:34,733
Speaker 12: off quite chill and quite you know, like that sort

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01:53:34,773 --> 01:53:36,493
Speaker 12: of chill kind of vibe. But we get into some

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01:53:36,533 --> 01:53:39,733
Speaker 12: real upbeat tempost sort of stuff in some real country

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Speaker 12: twain just going to Nashville, you know, in some of

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Speaker 12: the songs as well. So it's not you know, I

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Speaker 12: think she's really played and enjoyed what she's doing in

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Speaker 12: this album, and you'll really hear it some fabulous just

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01:53:51,973 --> 01:53:54,693
Speaker 12: real imagery I think with her lyrics, Yeah, really take

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Speaker 12: yourself to a place, which I think is great where

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Speaker 12: the water is cold. This is a song you're going

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01:53:58,613 --> 01:54:03,213
Speaker 12: to play when we finish chatting gospel bluesy imagine like

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01:54:03,253 --> 01:54:06,333
Speaker 12: a slow writhing dance crowd in a smoky basement bar.

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01:54:06,573 --> 01:54:07,173
Speaker 3: Like it's got this.

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01:54:08,173 --> 01:54:10,933
Speaker 12: They're kind of bluesy country thing about it. Sharp lyrics,

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01:54:11,013 --> 01:54:14,213
Speaker 12: real cool vocal play, and lots of energy and moonshine.

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Speaker 12: There's plenty of mention of.

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Speaker 3: Moonshine, so.

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Speaker 10: A few in there, but not it.

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Speaker 3: Sounds amazing, I mean in voices, the voices incredible. Am

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Speaker 3: I right in thinking that you were in a video

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01:54:28,213 --> 01:54:28,773
Speaker 3: back in the day?

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 12: She did that song with Tammy Nielsen, Trouble Finds a

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Speaker 12: Goal and invited a whole lot of museo friends and things,

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01:54:36,293 --> 01:54:39,973
Speaker 12: and I turned up and they're like, we want you

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01:54:40,013 --> 01:54:42,213
Speaker 12: all to sing and clap along and do this like

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01:54:42,293 --> 01:54:44,893
Speaker 12: sort of in the round circle harmony thing, and we're going.

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Speaker 25: To film it.

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Speaker 12: It was just very empowering, and again, I think that's

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01:54:48,893 --> 01:54:51,893
Speaker 12: kind of what country music does. That embraces people and

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01:54:51,933 --> 01:54:54,413
Speaker 12: it brings you in and it's a family and you

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01:54:54,493 --> 01:54:57,293
Speaker 12: feel empowered and it was a really cool night actually.

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01:54:57,333 --> 01:54:58,693
Speaker 12: But I wasn't you know that thing where you're like,

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01:54:58,733 --> 01:55:02,413
Speaker 12: am I supposed to be here amongst these wonderful musicians?

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01:55:02,453 --> 01:55:04,413
Speaker 12: But I run as many shoulders as I could.

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Speaker 3: Of course. Okay, so what did you give it?

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Speaker 12: It's ten out of ten?

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01:55:07,453 --> 01:55:11,333
Speaker 3: Ah, how good? Ten out of ten okay for Foresta No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I think I was. I think I was very good. Right,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep moving so we can have a bit

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Speaker 3: more of a listener in a couple of minutes. Thank

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01:55:16,493 --> 01:55:18,653
Speaker 3: you so much, as Stelle. Ten out of ten for

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Speaker 3: Forest House by Jenny Mitchell. Of course, you can hear

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01:55:21,613 --> 01:55:26,413
Speaker 3: more of Jenny Mitchell on the new iHeart Country app

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01:55:26,413 --> 01:55:28,813
Speaker 3: and channel on the iHeart Music app as well. Six

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Speaker 3: to twelve on Newsbalks HEADB a.

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Speaker 3: dB Right, Oh, we're getting kicked out so that Jason

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Speaker 3: Pyne can take us through the afternoon with Weekends Sport.

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01:55:44,693 --> 01:55:46,853
Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in this morning and for all your feedback.

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01:55:46,893 --> 01:55:49,653
Speaker 3: Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby. You can go to

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Speaker 3: Newstalk's headb dot coder inzed for everything from our show.

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01:55:52,453 --> 01:55:54,813
Speaker 3: I'm back next Saturday morning. Until then, we're gonna leave

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Speaker 3: you with Jenny Mitchell. Her new album is Forest House

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Speaker 3: ten out of ten of style recons.

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Speaker 23: This is Where the Water Is Cold, Job told, Where

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Speaker 23: the Ars Came?

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Speaker 3: Just what your talk?

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Speaker 8: Jo?

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Speaker 4: Where come.

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live

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