1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalks dB. 3 00:00:13,627 --> 00:00:15,627 Speaker 2: The only place for the. 4 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:21,387 Speaker 1: Big names, the big issues, the big controversies, and the 5 00:00:21,427 --> 00:00:25,387 Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine 6 00:00:25,947 --> 00:00:28,707 Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks ed B. 7 00:00:30,427 --> 00:00:32,427 Speaker 3: Hi, deck you on a good afternoon, welcoming, a very 8 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:35,307 Speaker 3: warm welcome and to the Sunday edition of Weekend Sport 9 00:00:35,307 --> 00:00:38,387 Speaker 3: on News Talks ed B. The last day of November, 10 00:00:39,027 --> 00:00:43,427 Speaker 3: last day of spring, Happy sixty firth sixty fifth birthday 11 00:00:43,627 --> 00:00:47,027 Speaker 3: to former English football star Gary Limker. Happy fifty fourth 12 00:00:47,627 --> 00:00:51,147 Speaker 3: to form a black Caps cult hero, Heath Davis. It 13 00:00:51,187 --> 00:00:53,627 Speaker 3: is also three years to today since we lost a 14 00:00:53,747 --> 00:00:57,227 Speaker 3: truly great New Zealander. Sir Murray Helberg passed away on 15 00:00:57,307 --> 00:01:00,747 Speaker 3: November thirty, twenty twenty two. A supreme athlete, but more 16 00:01:00,747 --> 00:01:03,107 Speaker 3: than that, a man with a vision that every young 17 00:01:03,147 --> 00:01:06,307 Speaker 3: person with a disability should have access to physical activity 18 00:01:06,907 --> 00:01:10,787 Speaker 3: and be given not only the opportunity to participate, but 19 00:01:10,867 --> 00:01:15,067 Speaker 3: to shine. His legacy lives long through the Hallberg Foundation. 20 00:01:16,187 --> 00:01:18,987 Speaker 3: I'm Jason Pine Show producer Andy McDonald. We're here talking 21 00:01:18,987 --> 00:01:22,227 Speaker 3: sport until three. Just a warning Annie McDonald's if it 22 00:01:22,267 --> 00:01:24,587 Speaker 3: worse for were today. He was at the News Talks 23 00:01:24,667 --> 00:01:27,667 Speaker 3: MB Sport Christmas party for most of yesterday afternoon. As 24 00:01:27,667 --> 00:01:30,067 Speaker 3: soon as the show finished at three off he went, 25 00:01:30,387 --> 00:01:32,627 Speaker 3: I don't know what time he got home. He is 26 00:01:32,707 --> 00:01:35,347 Speaker 3: here me, on the other hand, fresh as the daisy. 27 00:01:36,787 --> 00:01:40,667 Speaker 3: After one o'clock, A very special guest, Michael Campbell, is 28 00:01:40,707 --> 00:01:42,227 Speaker 3: in for an extended chat. 29 00:01:42,827 --> 00:01:46,587 Speaker 4: Dare to be Different. The Michael Campbell's Story is a 30 00:01:46,627 --> 00:01:51,027 Speaker 4: compelling you feature length documentary marking the twentieth anniversary of 31 00:01:51,067 --> 00:01:55,547 Speaker 4: one of New Zealand's great sporting triumphs, Michael Campbell's Unforgettable 32 00:01:55,627 --> 00:01:57,227 Speaker 4: victory at the two thousand. 33 00:01:56,867 --> 00:02:01,347 Speaker 3: And five US Open. The documentary premieres tonight on Sky Sport. 34 00:02:01,667 --> 00:02:04,627 Speaker 3: Michael Campbell is with us on the show after one 35 00:02:05,707 --> 00:02:07,827 Speaker 3: first up today, but a cricket Black Caps. 36 00:02:07,547 --> 00:02:09,507 Speaker 4: Coach Rob Walter gonna lead us off. 37 00:02:09,507 --> 00:02:12,267 Speaker 3: The white clothing is out for the first time this 38 00:02:12,587 --> 00:02:15,827 Speaker 3: home summer three Test matches against the West Indy's starting 39 00:02:15,867 --> 00:02:19,547 Speaker 3: on Tuesday at Hagleyoval and christ Church. Rob Walder standing 40 00:02:19,587 --> 00:02:21,347 Speaker 3: by to chat with us and then your thoughts. I 41 00:02:21,347 --> 00:02:23,227 Speaker 3: mean I might be a bit of an outlayer here. 42 00:02:23,267 --> 00:02:25,307 Speaker 3: I absolutely love my Test cricket. I can't wait for 43 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:25,827 Speaker 3: these games. 44 00:02:25,947 --> 00:02:27,427 Speaker 4: I was a bit sore. 45 00:02:27,267 --> 00:02:30,267 Speaker 3: About them so as they were on the horizon, but 46 00:02:30,307 --> 00:02:32,107 Speaker 3: now they're here, I'm just looking forward to watching a 47 00:02:32,107 --> 00:02:32,987 Speaker 3: bit of Test cricket. 48 00:02:33,827 --> 00:02:35,187 Speaker 4: Are you am I an outlayer? 49 00:02:35,627 --> 00:02:38,587 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that other matters around today. Speaking of cricket, 50 00:02:38,587 --> 00:02:42,067 Speaker 3: Ish Sody is on the show. In his one hundred 51 00:02:42,107 --> 00:02:46,067 Speaker 3: and second first class game each Sody finally has his 52 00:02:46,227 --> 00:02:49,947 Speaker 3: first first class century. He's called off a cannabury against 53 00:02:49,947 --> 00:02:52,547 Speaker 3: Otaga and the Blanket Shield and Dunedin during the week past. 54 00:02:52,747 --> 00:02:54,067 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a chat to him about that. 55 00:02:54,187 --> 00:02:57,387 Speaker 3: The Tall Blacks take on Australia's Boomers tomorrow night in 56 00:02:57,427 --> 00:03:01,387 Speaker 3: Wellington after a narrow loss in their first basketball clash 57 00:03:01,387 --> 00:03:03,187 Speaker 3: in Hobart on Friday night. Get you inside the New 58 00:03:03,267 --> 00:03:05,747 Speaker 3: Zealand camp this afternoon. Understand they might have had some 59 00:03:05,787 --> 00:03:09,067 Speaker 3: travel trouble getting to Wellington. They wouldn't be the only 60 00:03:09,107 --> 00:03:11,107 Speaker 3: ones over the weekend who have had issues with the 61 00:03:11,147 --> 00:03:13,747 Speaker 3: airports and flights. But hopefully we'll get the chance to 62 00:03:13,787 --> 00:03:16,947 Speaker 3: chat to the Tool Blacks this afternoon. The Phoenix back 63 00:03:16,987 --> 00:03:20,547 Speaker 3: in the winner's circle two to one, victors over Adelaide 64 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:23,347 Speaker 3: United yesterday well and truly needed. Going to break that 65 00:03:23,387 --> 00:03:25,867 Speaker 3: down for you and Auckland FC in action this afternoon 66 00:03:25,867 --> 00:03:28,627 Speaker 3: as well from three against the Newcastle Jets at Go Media. 67 00:03:28,827 --> 00:03:30,787 Speaker 3: Sounds like it's a bit of a wet one in Auckland. 68 00:03:30,907 --> 00:03:33,467 Speaker 3: Football expert Jacob Spoonley on the show today. We'll take 69 00:03:33,507 --> 00:03:36,827 Speaker 3: you Stateside as well with our US sports expertly on 70 00:03:36,907 --> 00:03:40,187 Speaker 3: buzzby a lot happening over there and also sale GP 71 00:03:40,347 --> 00:03:44,187 Speaker 3: final in Abu Dhabi, Formula one in Kuta and James 72 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:47,667 Speaker 3: mcconey with his usual Sunday offerings on top of that, 73 00:03:47,747 --> 00:03:50,427 Speaker 3: Live Sport this afternoon, going to keep a very close 74 00:03:50,467 --> 00:03:52,747 Speaker 3: eye on the fourth and final round of the Australian 75 00:03:52,787 --> 00:03:58,587 Speaker 3: PGA Championship in Brisbane. Kiwi golfers Kazuma Kabori, Daniel Hillier 76 00:03:58,747 --> 00:04:02,307 Speaker 3: and Nick Vogue all remain well and truly in striking 77 00:04:02,347 --> 00:04:05,067 Speaker 3: distance going into the fourth round. Kabori is twelve under, 78 00:04:05,147 --> 00:04:08,787 Speaker 3: just one stroke behind the leaders. Hillia is just one 79 00:04:08,787 --> 00:04:11,547 Speaker 3: stroke further back at eleven under, and Nick focus ten under, 80 00:04:11,907 --> 00:04:14,547 Speaker 3: so they're all well and truly in the mix. Nick 81 00:04:14,627 --> 00:04:18,987 Speaker 3: fok underway in about twenty minutes Daniel Hillier is off 82 00:04:19,027 --> 00:04:22,067 Speaker 3: the first tea at about twenty to one, and then 83 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:26,907 Speaker 3: Kibori teas off at about ten to one New Zealand time. 84 00:04:26,947 --> 00:04:29,587 Speaker 3: We'll keep you updated on their progress and that of 85 00:04:29,587 --> 00:04:31,867 Speaker 3: the other keys across the afternoon. Josh Gary's there even 86 00:04:31,907 --> 00:04:34,267 Speaker 3: path through four holes today five under in a tie 87 00:04:34,267 --> 00:04:36,907 Speaker 3: for forty fourth and Ryan Fox one under three six 88 00:04:36,947 --> 00:04:40,267 Speaker 3: holes today four under overall, tied for fifty seventh. And 89 00:04:40,307 --> 00:04:43,267 Speaker 3: there are three more domestic women's fifty over matches underway 90 00:04:43,307 --> 00:04:44,187 Speaker 3: around the country as well. 91 00:04:44,227 --> 00:04:46,827 Speaker 4: We'll keep eyes on those for you two. Please join 92 00:04:46,867 --> 00:04:47,667 Speaker 4: the show if you'd like to. 93 00:04:47,827 --> 00:04:50,867 Speaker 3: We welcome your contributions on the phone eight hundred and 94 00:04:50,867 --> 00:04:55,427 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty, via text nine two nine two, or 95 00:04:55,467 --> 00:04:58,707 Speaker 3: on an email Jason at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot NZ 96 00:04:58,947 --> 00:05:00,867 Speaker 3: eleven and a half past midday. 97 00:05:01,267 --> 00:05:04,947 Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world 98 00:05:05,147 --> 00:05:08,427 Speaker 1: weekends for it. If Jason Vine they call eight hundred 99 00:05:08,507 --> 00:05:10,667 Speaker 1: eighty eighty US talk zenby. 100 00:05:10,947 --> 00:05:13,427 Speaker 3: The Black Caps about to swap the colored clothing and 101 00:05:13,507 --> 00:05:17,347 Speaker 3: white cricket balls for the white clothing and red cricket balls, 102 00:05:17,387 --> 00:05:22,187 Speaker 3: their first test matches coming up since convincingly beating Zimbabwe 103 00:05:22,507 --> 00:05:23,547 Speaker 3: earlier this year. 104 00:05:25,787 --> 00:05:26,867 Speaker 5: And out this time. 105 00:05:27,147 --> 00:05:29,827 Speaker 6: The gully fielder takes that catch and Duffy gets his 106 00:05:30,107 --> 00:05:32,907 Speaker 6: second wicket off the first bottom a new Uber one 107 00:05:32,947 --> 00:05:36,587 Speaker 6: hundred and seventeen all out Zimbabwe in their second outing 108 00:05:36,747 --> 00:05:38,947 Speaker 6: and New Zalan Windows Test match by an innings and 109 00:05:39,027 --> 00:05:42,507 Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty nine runs and sealed the series 110 00:05:42,547 --> 00:05:43,587 Speaker 6: two games to new. 111 00:05:43,507 --> 00:05:45,787 Speaker 3: A three Test series coming up against the West Indies 112 00:05:45,787 --> 00:05:49,387 Speaker 3: before Christmas, starting on Tuesday in christ Church and then 113 00:05:49,427 --> 00:05:51,787 Speaker 3: Test matches at the Basement Reserve in Wellington and Bayoval 114 00:05:51,787 --> 00:05:55,067 Speaker 3: and Mount Montanery before Christmas. Black Caps coach Rob Walter 115 00:05:55,227 --> 00:05:56,947 Speaker 3: is with us rop Thanks for taking the time before 116 00:05:56,947 --> 00:05:59,387 Speaker 3: we look at these test matches. How do you evaluate 117 00:05:59,427 --> 00:06:03,827 Speaker 3: the science performances in your T twenty and ODI series 118 00:06:03,907 --> 00:06:05,507 Speaker 3: wins over the West Indies? 119 00:06:06,987 --> 00:06:12,747 Speaker 7: Yeahs, in reflection, we'd be pretty happy given that we 120 00:06:12,827 --> 00:06:15,707 Speaker 7: took out both both series. The tea twiny end od 121 00:06:15,827 --> 00:06:20,187 Speaker 7: eyes probably never strung together, you know, sort of a 122 00:06:20,227 --> 00:06:24,347 Speaker 7: polished performance in all departments, but managed to win a 123 00:06:24,347 --> 00:06:27,227 Speaker 7: few close ones, which is always good. Managed to win 124 00:06:27,307 --> 00:06:30,227 Speaker 7: a few scrappy games and the scrappy wins also good, 125 00:06:30,267 --> 00:06:32,267 Speaker 7: you know, to sort of when when you're not at 126 00:06:32,307 --> 00:06:34,387 Speaker 7: your best is also good signed for the team. So 127 00:06:34,947 --> 00:06:37,707 Speaker 7: put together, you know, some good performances here and there, 128 00:06:37,707 --> 00:06:41,707 Speaker 7: individuals you know, no one in particular at it, but collectively, 129 00:06:41,787 --> 00:06:43,947 Speaker 7: you know, just standing up at different times to get 130 00:06:43,987 --> 00:06:46,467 Speaker 7: the job done. So all those I think are good 131 00:06:46,467 --> 00:06:47,627 Speaker 7: things from a team point of view. 132 00:06:47,787 --> 00:06:51,387 Speaker 3: Can you take momentum and confidence from series wins in 133 00:06:51,467 --> 00:06:53,107 Speaker 3: white ball cricket and to test matches? 134 00:06:54,827 --> 00:06:56,067 Speaker 8: Absolutely, I think you can. 135 00:06:56,307 --> 00:06:59,347 Speaker 7: I think it's really you know, sort of maintains a mindset, 136 00:06:59,387 --> 00:07:02,387 Speaker 7: you know, so you're building on the positivity and the 137 00:07:02,467 --> 00:07:06,147 Speaker 7: confidence from one format to the next will be it 138 00:07:06,227 --> 00:07:09,347 Speaker 7: the They are very different, but I suppose the collective 139 00:07:09,427 --> 00:07:13,107 Speaker 7: confidence sort of sits, you know, at a deeper level, 140 00:07:13,147 --> 00:07:15,227 Speaker 7: and that's that's what we'd look to carry forward. 141 00:07:15,427 --> 00:07:17,027 Speaker 3: All right, Let's look at the squad you have named 142 00:07:17,027 --> 00:07:19,147 Speaker 3: for these test matches. A couple of guys who aren't there, 143 00:07:19,547 --> 00:07:22,627 Speaker 3: Kyle Jamison and Glenn Phillip's not considered as part of 144 00:07:22,707 --> 00:07:26,747 Speaker 3: a managed red ball return to play plan. Now, we 145 00:07:26,827 --> 00:07:28,787 Speaker 3: saw Kyle play the T twenty and fifty over games 146 00:07:28,827 --> 00:07:31,027 Speaker 3: against the Windys. Do you just feel as though he's 147 00:07:31,027 --> 00:07:33,827 Speaker 3: still short of readiness for the longer form. 148 00:07:35,187 --> 00:07:37,747 Speaker 7: Yeah, we got to know, just be smart with regards 149 00:07:37,747 --> 00:07:40,507 Speaker 7: so how we managed Kyle. Obviously he's coming back from 150 00:07:40,547 --> 00:07:44,107 Speaker 7: a fairly long Level three injury and you know, we're 151 00:07:44,147 --> 00:07:46,147 Speaker 7: just really enjoying the fact that he was able to 152 00:07:46,187 --> 00:07:48,627 Speaker 7: put back to back games together through the tea to 153 00:07:48,667 --> 00:07:51,547 Speaker 7: any series and Ody Eyes and so now it's just 154 00:07:51,587 --> 00:07:54,107 Speaker 7: about being smart as to what the next step looks 155 00:07:54,187 --> 00:07:55,867 Speaker 7: like and we'll you know, we'll just sort of tick 156 00:07:55,947 --> 00:07:59,107 Speaker 7: the boxes as they come and if that leaves us, 157 00:07:59,267 --> 00:08:01,107 Speaker 7: you know, with him running onto the field for Test 158 00:08:01,107 --> 00:08:03,507 Speaker 7: matches again, then brilliant. But as I said, you know, 159 00:08:03,547 --> 00:08:06,027 Speaker 7: as far as far as far more important as obviously 160 00:08:06,067 --> 00:08:08,507 Speaker 7: taking care of him as a cricketer and also the 161 00:08:08,547 --> 00:08:10,547 Speaker 7: longer term picture. You know, he's a massive part of 162 00:08:10,587 --> 00:08:13,427 Speaker 7: our teams across all formats, so we want to make 163 00:08:13,427 --> 00:08:15,307 Speaker 7: sure we you know, we do right by that decision. 164 00:08:15,547 --> 00:08:18,387 Speaker 3: And Glenn Phillips he played Plunket shill throw Tiger last week. 165 00:08:18,387 --> 00:08:20,147 Speaker 3: He's in the middle of a match again right now, 166 00:08:20,147 --> 00:08:22,707 Speaker 3: getting runs and wickets, which I'm sure you're happy about, 167 00:08:22,707 --> 00:08:24,747 Speaker 3: but just still a bit too soon for his return 168 00:08:25,147 --> 00:08:26,587 Speaker 3: for Test matches as well. 169 00:08:27,467 --> 00:08:30,627 Speaker 7: Yeah, again, you know, obviously GB had a long layoff 170 00:08:31,187 --> 00:08:33,347 Speaker 7: and that injury sort. 171 00:08:33,147 --> 00:08:34,627 Speaker 8: Of kept him out of the game for a fair 172 00:08:34,667 --> 00:08:35,347 Speaker 8: period of time. 173 00:08:35,427 --> 00:08:38,627 Speaker 7: So you know, we've worked well, he's worked really hard 174 00:08:38,267 --> 00:08:42,147 Speaker 7: to get himself back to one hundred percent and again 175 00:08:42,307 --> 00:08:44,907 Speaker 7: just you know, his inclusion in these plunket Hill games 176 00:08:44,947 --> 00:08:48,067 Speaker 7: as part of just ticking off boxes loading and make 177 00:08:48,107 --> 00:08:49,547 Speaker 7: sure he's loading properly. 178 00:08:49,307 --> 00:08:50,867 Speaker 8: Especially the specific injury. 179 00:08:51,587 --> 00:08:53,467 Speaker 7: So he got through the first game and then into 180 00:08:53,507 --> 00:08:55,507 Speaker 7: the second game and done really nice, which is great 181 00:08:55,507 --> 00:08:57,987 Speaker 7: to see, but also left him two days out from 182 00:08:58,067 --> 00:09:01,347 Speaker 7: a from a test match starting, so you know, it 183 00:09:01,467 --> 00:09:03,747 Speaker 7: was difficult to make a decision for the first test 184 00:09:03,787 --> 00:09:05,507 Speaker 7: match given that we you know, we still needed to 185 00:09:05,507 --> 00:09:07,547 Speaker 7: see him get through a funk a shield game. So 186 00:09:09,027 --> 00:09:11,067 Speaker 7: you know, again just trying to do the right thing 187 00:09:11,107 --> 00:09:13,307 Speaker 7: from a management point of view, really trying to trying 188 00:09:13,307 --> 00:09:16,507 Speaker 7: to take care of our players and ensure their longevity 189 00:09:16,507 --> 00:09:18,747 Speaker 7: out there rather than just one game at a time. 190 00:09:18,987 --> 00:09:20,667 Speaker 3: Just before we move from those two, do you expect 191 00:09:20,667 --> 00:09:23,347 Speaker 3: them both to be in contention for international white ball 192 00:09:23,387 --> 00:09:25,907 Speaker 3: cricket after Christmas? All things going well of course, and 193 00:09:26,187 --> 00:09:28,787 Speaker 3: leading into the T twenty World Cup. Both both Jamison 194 00:09:28,867 --> 00:09:29,467 Speaker 3: and Phillips. 195 00:09:29,867 --> 00:09:33,427 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we'd, we'd we'd be certainly focusing on that, 196 00:09:33,867 --> 00:09:36,227 Speaker 7: and obviously things can go wrong, but at this. 197 00:09:36,307 --> 00:09:38,587 Speaker 8: Stage we're all looking pretty positive for that. 198 00:09:38,827 --> 00:09:39,307 Speaker 4: Good to hear. 199 00:09:39,627 --> 00:09:41,867 Speaker 3: Back to the Test squad, Tom Blundle is the only 200 00:09:41,947 --> 00:09:44,467 Speaker 3: wicket keeper you've named. Were you attempted to include a 201 00:09:44,467 --> 00:09:45,467 Speaker 3: backup in your squad? 202 00:09:47,107 --> 00:09:49,547 Speaker 7: I suppose if something happened, you know, we did have 203 00:09:49,627 --> 00:09:52,027 Speaker 7: Devin there. You know, we do have Tommy Laith, you know, 204 00:09:52,067 --> 00:09:54,347 Speaker 7: who could take the gloves if it came to that, 205 00:09:54,547 --> 00:09:57,987 Speaker 7: and if we needed a short term replacement. But then 206 00:09:58,547 --> 00:10:01,307 Speaker 7: obviously the time between games allows us to bring someone 207 00:10:01,347 --> 00:10:04,587 Speaker 7: else in if we needed to replacefully, so to carry 208 00:10:04,587 --> 00:10:07,347 Speaker 7: one in the squad probably not necessary given that you 209 00:10:07,427 --> 00:10:09,107 Speaker 7: do have guys who can't take the gloves. 210 00:10:09,147 --> 00:10:12,267 Speaker 8: This need be that or actually keepers. 211 00:10:11,827 --> 00:10:14,347 Speaker 3: And Kane Williamson back on the side after missing the 212 00:10:14,347 --> 00:10:18,187 Speaker 3: Test series in Zimbabwe over our winter, he's recently announced 213 00:10:18,187 --> 00:10:21,827 Speaker 3: his retirement from international T twenty cricket. Do you feel 214 00:10:22,227 --> 00:10:24,547 Speaker 3: confident Robbie's got a couple more years of Test cricket 215 00:10:24,627 --> 00:10:27,227 Speaker 3: left in him. 216 00:10:27,347 --> 00:10:30,467 Speaker 7: I mean, look at our conversations really have just been about, 217 00:10:30,667 --> 00:10:32,667 Speaker 7: you know, sort of this series that's in front of 218 00:10:32,747 --> 00:10:35,707 Speaker 7: us and taking care of that. I know he just 219 00:10:35,747 --> 00:10:38,907 Speaker 7: wants to focus on getting out there in the whites 220 00:10:38,947 --> 00:10:42,187 Speaker 7: and really delivering some good performances for the team out 221 00:10:42,227 --> 00:10:44,507 Speaker 7: of these three Test matches and then you know, the 222 00:10:44,587 --> 00:10:47,587 Speaker 7: next international cricket after that is a fair way away. 223 00:10:47,667 --> 00:10:50,667 Speaker 7: So we will get through these three Test matches first, 224 00:10:51,707 --> 00:10:54,467 Speaker 7: and as Kane has said himself, you know around his 225 00:10:54,547 --> 00:10:57,427 Speaker 7: t training decision is there's obviously different elements of his 226 00:10:57,547 --> 00:11:00,267 Speaker 7: life now that Estcon City is dedicated to this team 227 00:11:00,267 --> 00:11:04,467 Speaker 7: for fifteen years, and there's obviously different considerations for him now. 228 00:11:04,547 --> 00:11:06,187 Speaker 8: So you know, for me, it's. 229 00:11:06,067 --> 00:11:09,107 Speaker 7: Really allowing him to work through that and whatever the 230 00:11:09,147 --> 00:11:12,147 Speaker 7: future looks like and then will you know, we'll sort 231 00:11:12,147 --> 00:11:15,547 Speaker 7: of respect his decisions with that. So yeah, as I said, 232 00:11:15,587 --> 00:11:17,747 Speaker 7: I mean, the next Test matches are in June in 233 00:11:17,787 --> 00:11:20,507 Speaker 7: the UK, so it's a fair chunk of time away from. 234 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:20,907 Speaker 4: That, it is. 235 00:11:20,947 --> 00:11:23,227 Speaker 3: But then I don't know, I mean, I'm not sure 236 00:11:23,307 --> 00:11:25,627 Speaker 3: we can get inside his head, but there are some 237 00:11:25,747 --> 00:11:28,547 Speaker 3: exciting red ball series coming up England, as you mentioned, 238 00:11:28,587 --> 00:11:32,427 Speaker 3: India and then Australia. I don't know I'd feel tempted. 239 00:11:32,547 --> 00:11:35,627 Speaker 3: I'm not king Williamson, But I feel tempted by Test 240 00:11:35,667 --> 00:11:37,907 Speaker 3: series like that. Do you think he's got his eyes 241 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:41,347 Speaker 3: on a pretty exciting twelve to fifteen months of red 242 00:11:41,387 --> 00:11:42,267 Speaker 3: ball cricketer ahead. 243 00:11:43,387 --> 00:11:45,587 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think everyone would look at the Test matches 244 00:11:45,627 --> 00:11:50,907 Speaker 7: and feel that it's a pretty exciting proposition. But again, really, 245 00:11:51,307 --> 00:11:53,627 Speaker 7: as you said, you know, I'm not in kind either. 246 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:58,347 Speaker 7: Obviously we speak regularly about about various things. And obviously 247 00:11:58,387 --> 00:12:01,067 Speaker 7: he's been the leader of this team beard as a 248 00:12:01,107 --> 00:12:03,067 Speaker 7: captain or as just a leader, for a very long 249 00:12:03,107 --> 00:12:05,987 Speaker 7: period of time and probably has ticked off a few 250 00:12:05,987 --> 00:12:08,707 Speaker 7: of the Test series that a lot of the other 251 00:12:08,747 --> 00:12:12,467 Speaker 7: guys haven't, you know, so, but still it's still exciting, 252 00:12:12,507 --> 00:12:15,587 Speaker 7: you know, whichever way, like that's an exciting eighteen months 253 00:12:15,627 --> 00:12:17,827 Speaker 7: of Test Creed in particular, as you say, you know 254 00:12:17,907 --> 00:12:19,747 Speaker 7: that our sort of bucket list things for a lot 255 00:12:19,787 --> 00:12:20,307 Speaker 7: of plays. 256 00:12:20,627 --> 00:12:22,827 Speaker 4: The wickets in New Zealand always a bit harder to 257 00:12:22,907 --> 00:12:27,227 Speaker 4: predict before Christmas. What are you expecting from the pictures 258 00:12:27,307 --> 00:12:31,747 Speaker 4: at these three Test venues against the Windys? 259 00:12:31,827 --> 00:12:35,707 Speaker 7: I suppose you know, there's tended to be a fairly 260 00:12:35,787 --> 00:12:40,747 Speaker 7: sort of consistent personality for in particular Hagley and the 261 00:12:40,787 --> 00:12:45,587 Speaker 7: basin that means slightly changed here and there, but largely 262 00:12:45,587 --> 00:12:48,467 Speaker 7: we're just hoping for the conditions that we know and 263 00:12:48,547 --> 00:12:50,307 Speaker 7: understand of our venues. 264 00:12:50,347 --> 00:12:50,507 Speaker 8: You know. 265 00:12:50,587 --> 00:12:53,307 Speaker 7: That's I guess that is what home ground advantage is. 266 00:12:53,347 --> 00:12:55,827 Speaker 7: You know, it's just the knowledge of how the decks 267 00:12:55,867 --> 00:12:59,147 Speaker 7: generally play, so really hoping for the same, you know, 268 00:12:59,267 --> 00:13:01,227 Speaker 7: for them to keep their character and for us to 269 00:13:01,627 --> 00:13:05,307 Speaker 7: understand exactly what's in front of us, and having played 270 00:13:05,387 --> 00:13:08,027 Speaker 7: and been really successful at those ends as well. 271 00:13:08,747 --> 00:13:10,387 Speaker 4: Just back to the T twenty game, A lot of 272 00:13:10,387 --> 00:13:13,107 Speaker 4: discussion at the moment about the domestic competition here. 273 00:13:13,747 --> 00:13:17,627 Speaker 3: What's your view on how well the current domestic competition 274 00:13:17,787 --> 00:13:21,307 Speaker 3: prepares players for international T twenty cricket. 275 00:13:23,627 --> 00:13:25,947 Speaker 7: Well, I think, to be honest, I think our T 276 00:13:26,107 --> 00:13:30,147 Speaker 7: twenty competition is sort of undervalued in terms of the 277 00:13:30,187 --> 00:13:33,587 Speaker 7: quality of it. I think for the most part, the 278 00:13:33,627 --> 00:13:37,507 Speaker 7: standard is very high. Probably the missing piece in the 279 00:13:37,507 --> 00:13:40,907 Speaker 7: puzzle is obviously the high quality overseas professionals, which other 280 00:13:41,547 --> 00:13:46,427 Speaker 7: T twenty leagues does have, and so you would expect 281 00:13:46,427 --> 00:13:49,387 Speaker 7: it that raises the quality of the competition a little. 282 00:13:49,427 --> 00:13:51,707 Speaker 7: And then also there's the experience of those players that 283 00:13:51,787 --> 00:13:52,347 Speaker 7: come into the. 284 00:13:52,347 --> 00:13:54,827 Speaker 8: Change room and the impact that has. 285 00:13:54,867 --> 00:13:56,907 Speaker 7: But for the most part, I think we've got a 286 00:13:56,987 --> 00:14:00,987 Speaker 7: very very strong domestic competition that obviously could be stronger. 287 00:14:01,067 --> 00:14:03,027 Speaker 8: I mean we've benaive not to think that it could. 288 00:14:03,627 --> 00:14:06,307 Speaker 3: So in that regard, and you talk about there's international 289 00:14:06,907 --> 00:14:09,907 Speaker 3: for that reason, do you do you like the idea 290 00:14:09,907 --> 00:14:13,147 Speaker 3: of a potential franchise model for our T twenty game here? 291 00:14:14,667 --> 00:14:17,427 Speaker 7: I mean, to be honest, I just want what's best, 292 00:14:17,467 --> 00:14:19,787 Speaker 7: you know, if one for the players and ultimately for 293 00:14:19,827 --> 00:14:21,867 Speaker 7: the Black Apps, and there's obviously talk. 294 00:14:21,747 --> 00:14:23,067 Speaker 8: Of different ways to do that. 295 00:14:23,187 --> 00:14:26,267 Speaker 7: I suppose in essence that's what the deloittte sort of 296 00:14:26,427 --> 00:14:30,547 Speaker 7: into the investigation around what's the most feasible and best 297 00:14:30,547 --> 00:14:33,267 Speaker 7: for our cricket is for you know, so you could 298 00:14:33,307 --> 00:14:36,747 Speaker 7: sit and deliberate, I suppose many different options. I always 299 00:14:36,787 --> 00:14:39,747 Speaker 7: come back to just what's best for cricket and cricketers 300 00:14:39,787 --> 00:14:40,467 Speaker 7: in our country. 301 00:14:40,907 --> 00:14:42,587 Speaker 4: And you've been in the role of head coach for 302 00:14:42,627 --> 00:14:45,507 Speaker 4: six months now, are you enjoying yourself? Yeah? 303 00:14:45,627 --> 00:14:45,987 Speaker 2: Loving it? 304 00:14:46,027 --> 00:14:47,627 Speaker 8: Eh? I mean what's not to love? Really? 305 00:14:47,947 --> 00:14:48,147 Speaker 5: Yeah? 306 00:14:48,627 --> 00:14:51,667 Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean international cricket and coaching at this level. 307 00:14:51,707 --> 00:14:54,627 Speaker 7: But also you know, it's sort of a wonderful environment 308 00:14:54,667 --> 00:14:55,747 Speaker 7: and wonderful group. 309 00:14:55,547 --> 00:14:58,547 Speaker 8: Of guys that get on well. 310 00:14:58,587 --> 00:15:00,627 Speaker 7: But you know, I'm hungry to play for their country. 311 00:15:00,707 --> 00:15:04,347 Speaker 7: So it's it's really been a great six or six or. 312 00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:05,067 Speaker 8: Seven months so far. 313 00:15:05,187 --> 00:15:05,587 Speaker 4: Good stuff. 314 00:15:05,587 --> 00:15:07,227 Speaker 3: For well, we saw the for just Ashes test the 315 00:15:07,267 --> 00:15:09,027 Speaker 3: other day finish inside two days. 316 00:15:09,187 --> 00:15:10,627 Speaker 4: What did you What did you make of that? 317 00:15:12,467 --> 00:15:17,467 Speaker 7: Well, I certainly that our's last a bit longer. But yeah, yep, 318 00:15:18,147 --> 00:15:22,507 Speaker 7: so if entertainments you're seeing, then you would have been entertained. 319 00:15:22,547 --> 00:15:23,827 Speaker 8: There's been no doubt about that. 320 00:15:24,027 --> 00:15:27,467 Speaker 7: So we just hopefully entertained the crafts for a little 321 00:15:27,507 --> 00:15:29,187 Speaker 7: bit longer than two days. 322 00:15:29,267 --> 00:15:29,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's hope. 323 00:15:29,987 --> 00:15:31,987 Speaker 3: So all right, I look forward to to three test 324 00:15:31,987 --> 00:15:34,827 Speaker 3: matches before Christmas and christ Jitch Wellington and Mount Monging 325 00:15:34,907 --> 00:15:36,827 Speaker 3: to we Rob, thanks for joining us across New Zealand. Mate, 326 00:15:36,827 --> 00:15:38,547 Speaker 3: all the best for these for these three tests in 327 00:15:38,587 --> 00:15:39,307 Speaker 3: the next little while. 328 00:15:39,907 --> 00:15:41,227 Speaker 8: No way is Jason's taken it. 329 00:15:41,267 --> 00:15:43,027 Speaker 3: No you take care to Rob thinks in Dave, Rob Walter. 330 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:45,467 Speaker 3: They're black Caps coach O eight one hundred and eighty 331 00:15:45,507 --> 00:15:46,947 Speaker 3: ten are I just want to read your pulse on 332 00:15:46,987 --> 00:15:51,107 Speaker 3: this first day of summer tomorrow, first day of the 333 00:15:51,147 --> 00:15:55,227 Speaker 3: first test on Tuesday, these test matches have been crammed 334 00:15:55,227 --> 00:15:57,427 Speaker 3: in a bit, haven't they before Christmas? And there's no 335 00:15:57,507 --> 00:16:01,227 Speaker 3: test cricket for us after Christmas. I still hope that 336 00:16:01,227 --> 00:16:06,667 Speaker 3: that isn't the norm moving forward, depending on what hows 337 00:16:06,667 --> 00:16:09,067 Speaker 3: worth n Z twenty. If that was to come in, 338 00:16:09,507 --> 00:16:14,187 Speaker 3: for example, and take up the January window, I still 339 00:16:14,187 --> 00:16:16,187 Speaker 3: would hope that there would be Test cricket in February 340 00:16:16,187 --> 00:16:17,947 Speaker 3: March back endo of the summer. Like there's always been 341 00:16:17,987 --> 00:16:20,947 Speaker 3: pretty much you know, yes, ye you play some, you 342 00:16:20,987 --> 00:16:22,827 Speaker 3: play some white ball, but there's always test cricket to 343 00:16:22,827 --> 00:16:24,627 Speaker 3: look forward to. It kind of book both ends of 344 00:16:24,627 --> 00:16:26,387 Speaker 3: the summer. This end of the summer and then sort 345 00:16:26,427 --> 00:16:29,347 Speaker 3: of February March as well. That isn't the case next year, 346 00:16:31,067 --> 00:16:32,947 Speaker 3: but I hope that there is some to enjoy in 347 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:35,587 Speaker 3: years ahead. A big year coming up. Test matches in 348 00:16:35,627 --> 00:16:38,507 Speaker 3: England middle of next year, India come here at the 349 00:16:38,507 --> 00:16:40,947 Speaker 3: front end of next summer, then we go to Australia, 350 00:16:41,067 --> 00:16:43,467 Speaker 3: some big, big test matches coming up. I'm keen to 351 00:16:43,587 --> 00:16:46,707 Speaker 3: know how big the group is that I'm a part 352 00:16:46,787 --> 00:16:50,947 Speaker 3: of Test cricket fans, how many of us still exist? 353 00:16:51,827 --> 00:16:54,067 Speaker 3: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty with more and 354 00:16:54,147 --> 00:16:57,627 Speaker 3: more white ball cricket being played and new followers to 355 00:16:57,667 --> 00:17:01,467 Speaker 3: the game of cricket mainly being attracted in that fashion. 356 00:17:01,827 --> 00:17:04,587 Speaker 3: There's always ongoing discussion about the relevance of Test matches, 357 00:17:04,627 --> 00:17:08,067 Speaker 3: but a large number of players you speak to will 358 00:17:08,107 --> 00:17:11,827 Speaker 3: tell you how important Test cricket is for them. And 359 00:17:11,867 --> 00:17:14,627 Speaker 3: a great example of this is rich and Revender, absolute 360 00:17:14,707 --> 00:17:20,227 Speaker 3: all format player, but he always talks about how important 361 00:17:20,267 --> 00:17:22,867 Speaker 3: Test cricket is to him. And he is not in 362 00:17:22,907 --> 00:17:26,427 Speaker 3: the minority. These guys are realists, of course they are. 363 00:17:26,467 --> 00:17:29,627 Speaker 3: They know they need to be playing franchise cricket to 364 00:17:29,627 --> 00:17:33,547 Speaker 3: maximize their income, but Test cricket still has a special 365 00:17:33,627 --> 00:17:34,827 Speaker 3: place for them. 366 00:17:35,067 --> 00:17:35,787 Speaker 4: So what about you. 367 00:17:36,627 --> 00:17:39,747 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that you should be, you know, absolutely 368 00:17:39,947 --> 00:17:42,627 Speaker 3: on the edge of your seat, hardly able to sleep 369 00:17:42,867 --> 00:17:45,747 Speaker 3: in anticipation of a three Test series against the West Indies. 370 00:17:45,787 --> 00:17:49,307 Speaker 3: But are you looking forward to it? Is it something 371 00:17:49,307 --> 00:17:52,347 Speaker 3: that's on your radar? And how big is this group 372 00:17:52,347 --> 00:17:55,027 Speaker 3: of us Test cricket fans David. 373 00:17:54,747 --> 00:18:00,227 Speaker 9: I mate Jays yet Jason Sarah, Yes, no very much. 374 00:18:00,307 --> 00:18:02,907 Speaker 9: So you're still a Test cricket fan? How much of 375 00:18:02,947 --> 00:18:05,627 Speaker 9: an interest in the series? And I'm still working to 376 00:18:05,907 --> 00:18:10,947 Speaker 9: cursor during the day, if you get my drift. But yeah, 377 00:18:11,547 --> 00:18:13,587 Speaker 9: the West Indie is not a great call. At least 378 00:18:13,627 --> 00:18:15,387 Speaker 9: twenty twenty six is going to be better for Test 379 00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:17,987 Speaker 9: cricket than the Zelm's point of view, and it's good 380 00:18:17,987 --> 00:18:20,587 Speaker 9: news that Williamson's going to be available for that whole year. 381 00:18:22,627 --> 00:18:25,267 Speaker 9: So I was looking at this the other day. He's 382 00:18:25,747 --> 00:18:29,427 Speaker 9: three or four hundred runs away from ten thousand. He 383 00:18:30,027 --> 00:18:32,747 Speaker 9: probably maybe rather than to would be the only other 384 00:18:32,787 --> 00:18:35,267 Speaker 9: New Zealander it's likely to ever get that far. So 385 00:18:35,427 --> 00:18:37,987 Speaker 9: I just hope that came. Williamson can from that point 386 00:18:38,027 --> 00:18:40,347 Speaker 9: of view, and if he can get runs against the 387 00:18:40,347 --> 00:18:42,667 Speaker 9: Western he's a freebies almost and then you've got the 388 00:18:42,667 --> 00:18:46,227 Speaker 9: big ones next year a Test cricket. You're right it is. 389 00:18:46,267 --> 00:18:49,227 Speaker 9: And I mean you talk about the poems, Well, I'll 390 00:18:49,267 --> 00:18:51,987 Speaker 9: tell you what You'll know by Thursday night next week, 391 00:18:52,147 --> 00:18:54,987 Speaker 9: Day one of that Test matched together as the poems 392 00:18:54,987 --> 00:18:57,307 Speaker 9: have got, any hope, because I've had bail on day 393 00:18:57,347 --> 00:19:02,387 Speaker 9: one with battle Ball I finished and yeah, you can't 394 00:19:02,387 --> 00:19:07,627 Speaker 9: be Test cricket, you know that. I just think, Yeah, 395 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,307 Speaker 9: the Western is not great. I mean, this is the 396 00:19:10,347 --> 00:19:13,507 Speaker 9: problem with this World Championship at the moment. Unfortunately, you 397 00:19:13,507 --> 00:19:15,747 Speaker 9: look at South Africa, they're only going to play in 398 00:19:15,787 --> 00:19:19,147 Speaker 9: this next two year period. I look at this the 399 00:19:19,147 --> 00:19:20,827 Speaker 9: other day on the chat, they're only going to play 400 00:19:21,107 --> 00:19:26,147 Speaker 9: fourteen Test matches and they're all two Test series and 401 00:19:26,227 --> 00:19:28,587 Speaker 9: so test cricket they don't play a great deal of it. 402 00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:30,387 Speaker 9: But they're going to end up in the World Championship 403 00:19:30,387 --> 00:19:34,307 Speaker 9: Final purely and simply because they've won two away series 404 00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:38,907 Speaker 9: now and so there's one thing cemented in Australia is 405 00:19:38,947 --> 00:19:40,187 Speaker 9: probably likely to be the other. 406 00:19:41,507 --> 00:19:44,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so as you say, with the Test matches, yeah, 407 00:19:45,067 --> 00:19:48,027 Speaker 3: the Western these ones here, I'm obviously interested in it. 408 00:19:48,107 --> 00:19:49,707 Speaker 3: But like you as well, I mean having a Test 409 00:19:49,707 --> 00:19:51,427 Speaker 3: match starting on a tuesdays a odd too. I know 410 00:19:51,467 --> 00:19:53,187 Speaker 3: they've got to cram them in, but you know it 411 00:19:53,227 --> 00:19:55,587 Speaker 3: mightn't even make the weekend. But yeah, that's see candacious 412 00:19:55,627 --> 00:19:57,987 Speaker 3: test pinball test as well, David, as you know, you're right. 413 00:19:58,027 --> 00:20:00,027 Speaker 3: I mean we could have another two day Test and 414 00:20:00,067 --> 00:20:02,147 Speaker 3: as Andy said yesterday, we could get through two Test 415 00:20:02,187 --> 00:20:06,067 Speaker 3: matches of the series and still have enough days unused 416 00:20:06,107 --> 00:20:06,867 Speaker 3: for an other Test. 417 00:20:09,427 --> 00:20:12,227 Speaker 9: I'll tell you from the because i'd send right at 418 00:20:12,267 --> 00:20:14,747 Speaker 9: the beginning of the problems within the series well that 419 00:20:15,227 --> 00:20:17,347 Speaker 9: you just didn't expect that first Test match the way 420 00:20:17,387 --> 00:20:21,707 Speaker 9: it was. But they if they can't win in Brucebane, 421 00:20:21,907 --> 00:20:25,587 Speaker 9: it's over. And as I say, with a day night 422 00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:29,947 Speaker 9: Test match, you pretty much know straight away, how do 423 00:20:30,067 --> 00:20:32,547 Speaker 9: I see that'll be for them? End of the day. 424 00:20:32,587 --> 00:20:35,787 Speaker 9: One will know Thursday night at about it midnighteties an 425 00:20:35,827 --> 00:20:36,227 Speaker 9: all time. 426 00:20:36,747 --> 00:20:37,547 Speaker 4: We will take it. 427 00:20:37,587 --> 00:20:39,307 Speaker 3: Good to jet to you mate, Let's keep in touch 428 00:20:39,307 --> 00:20:41,467 Speaker 3: over December matters this Test series rolls out. 429 00:20:41,587 --> 00:20:42,587 Speaker 4: I'm a bit like you. 430 00:20:42,627 --> 00:20:44,467 Speaker 3: I think the West Indies are a little bit of 431 00:20:44,467 --> 00:20:48,387 Speaker 3: an underwhelming opposition. We know what their current state of 432 00:20:48,387 --> 00:20:51,387 Speaker 3: cricket is. It's very much whitewall focused. You think about 433 00:20:51,427 --> 00:20:53,827 Speaker 3: the West Indies and again I'm getting misty eyed here, 434 00:20:53,867 --> 00:20:56,347 Speaker 3: but the West Indies teams of the eighties in particular. 435 00:20:57,147 --> 00:20:58,547 Speaker 3: I remember when the West Indies. 436 00:20:58,307 --> 00:21:00,107 Speaker 4: Came here and I think was eighty five eighty six 437 00:21:00,147 --> 00:21:05,107 Speaker 4: around that time, and they were just formidable, you know 438 00:21:05,187 --> 00:21:13,347 Speaker 4: that team Greenner, Chains, Richards, Logi, calatch Iran you know, 439 00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:15,947 Speaker 4: and these you know, and these are just douchon and 440 00:21:15,987 --> 00:21:18,427 Speaker 4: these are just the batters. And then if you got them. 441 00:21:18,267 --> 00:21:21,267 Speaker 3: Out, if you got them out, then you had to 442 00:21:21,307 --> 00:21:26,747 Speaker 3: go in and face the fearsome fast bowlers at their 443 00:21:26,787 --> 00:21:32,507 Speaker 3: disposal Marshall Garner holding Croft. I mean they were just 444 00:21:32,787 --> 00:21:37,667 Speaker 3: you know Patrick Patterson who was quicker than all of them. 445 00:21:37,787 --> 00:21:39,747 Speaker 3: And you know now you look, you look at the 446 00:21:39,747 --> 00:21:42,267 Speaker 3: West Indies test side now and those who were followed 447 00:21:42,587 --> 00:21:45,867 Speaker 3: test cricket for you know, the last thirty or forty years. 448 00:21:45,907 --> 00:21:50,067 Speaker 3: And remember you know the Calypso Kings of the eighties. 449 00:21:51,187 --> 00:21:53,747 Speaker 3: You know, there's absolutely no comparison to the team now, 450 00:21:55,307 --> 00:21:58,667 Speaker 3: but test matches are test matches. Grant with you in 451 00:21:58,747 --> 00:22:00,227 Speaker 3: just a sec matees spearline there if you want to 452 00:22:00,267 --> 00:22:02,307 Speaker 3: jump aboard. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty talking 453 00:22:02,347 --> 00:22:05,147 Speaker 3: some Test cricket twelve twenty nine on News Talk z'b. 454 00:22:05,467 --> 00:22:11,107 Speaker 1: One gorug Cold Engaged Weekend Sports with Jason Paine and GJ. 455 00:22:11,267 --> 00:22:13,987 Speaker 1: Gunner Homes, New Zealand. So I was trusted o Milder 456 00:22:14,107 --> 00:22:15,467 Speaker 1: News Talk to Baby. 457 00:22:15,427 --> 00:22:16,267 Speaker 4: Twenty nine to one. 458 00:22:16,307 --> 00:22:18,907 Speaker 3: Test cricket fans assemble, keen to chat to you about 459 00:22:18,907 --> 00:22:21,507 Speaker 3: the Red bullstaff masters. I'm standing here holding my hand 460 00:22:21,547 --> 00:22:23,907 Speaker 3: up Piney. I just want better opposition, that's all. Let's 461 00:22:23,907 --> 00:22:25,747 Speaker 3: see how the Windys go, they might not be as 462 00:22:25,747 --> 00:22:28,347 Speaker 3: bad as we think, Luke says Piney, I'm pumped for 463 00:22:28,387 --> 00:22:31,707 Speaker 3: the white clothing. The first ashes tears probably heightened it 464 00:22:31,707 --> 00:22:34,347 Speaker 3: for me. Glad to park the rugby and settle in 465 00:22:34,467 --> 00:22:36,227 Speaker 3: for full days of cricket for the summer. 466 00:22:36,307 --> 00:22:36,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. 467 00:22:36,827 --> 00:22:40,027 Speaker 3: Look, unfortunately, what I'm hearing is that the forecast in 468 00:22:40,107 --> 00:22:45,067 Speaker 3: christ Church ain't great. Twenty four hours of rain in 469 00:22:45,067 --> 00:22:47,987 Speaker 3: the forecast on Wednesday, the Test starts on Tuesday. 470 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:49,467 Speaker 4: Well they might not. 471 00:22:49,507 --> 00:22:51,147 Speaker 3: I mean, if history is anything to go by and 472 00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:53,867 Speaker 3: current trends are to be believed, and I think they are, 473 00:22:54,027 --> 00:22:56,067 Speaker 3: we might not need the five days. You know, we 474 00:22:57,067 --> 00:22:59,427 Speaker 3: could probably get away with a day or two missing 475 00:22:59,427 --> 00:23:03,707 Speaker 3: from rain. Grant you'd be a Test cricket fan, Yes. 476 00:23:03,627 --> 00:23:07,147 Speaker 10: Yes, definitely, although I have to say these people that 477 00:23:07,227 --> 00:23:10,027 Speaker 10: I like all three formats, So I'm not one of 478 00:23:10,107 --> 00:23:12,427 Speaker 10: these people that when I'm watching one of the formats, 479 00:23:12,627 --> 00:23:14,867 Speaker 10: I think, oh I wish I was watching the other format. 480 00:23:14,947 --> 00:23:17,747 Speaker 10: You know, I just want to get into whatever format 481 00:23:18,747 --> 00:23:21,347 Speaker 10: is going. And okay that the West and these aren't 482 00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:25,947 Speaker 10: and like the Glory Days, so we're in the nineteen eighties, 483 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:29,387 Speaker 10: but then they are better than that. A few years 484 00:23:29,387 --> 00:23:31,787 Speaker 10: ago when they were sort of struggling to get into 485 00:23:31,827 --> 00:23:34,787 Speaker 10: the top eight Test playing nations, and I thought the 486 00:23:36,107 --> 00:23:39,667 Speaker 10: demise of cricket almost a quest of the demise of 487 00:23:39,667 --> 00:23:40,387 Speaker 10: Welsh rugby. 488 00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:44,107 Speaker 4: I don't mention Walsh rug but did you see that? 489 00:23:44,387 --> 00:23:47,627 Speaker 4: Have you seen that scoreline from this morning, Grant against 490 00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:53,667 Speaker 4: South Africa? No, No, seventy three nil they lost. Wales 491 00:23:53,667 --> 00:23:57,467 Speaker 4: have lost get Cardiff seventy three nil to South Africa 492 00:23:57,547 --> 00:24:01,227 Speaker 4: final Test of the year. Thankfully for them, i'd imagine. 493 00:24:01,227 --> 00:24:03,187 Speaker 3: But yeah, like they put up a bit of a 494 00:24:03,187 --> 00:24:06,627 Speaker 3: fight against US last week, but seventy three nil at 495 00:24:06,667 --> 00:24:08,907 Speaker 3: home against admittedly a good side. 496 00:24:10,427 --> 00:24:12,907 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean South Africa, in my opinion, are the 497 00:24:13,387 --> 00:24:18,827 Speaker 10: red hot favorites to win the next World Cup. And yes, 498 00:24:19,467 --> 00:24:24,227 Speaker 10: hopefully Tony Brown, after being a possibly a World Cup 499 00:24:24,267 --> 00:24:30,707 Speaker 10: winning assistant coach in three years time, will join Jamie 500 00:24:30,787 --> 00:24:35,867 Speaker 10: Joseph and this of course razor winners the World Cup, 501 00:24:36,067 --> 00:24:39,147 Speaker 10: in which case maybe we'll offer him another four years. 502 00:24:39,507 --> 00:24:41,747 Speaker 4: Indeed, we won't have any need for Tony Brown or 503 00:24:41,827 --> 00:24:43,587 Speaker 4: Jamie Joseph of that at that stage. 504 00:24:44,027 --> 00:24:44,347 Speaker 5: Grant. 505 00:24:44,507 --> 00:24:46,427 Speaker 3: Anyway, we seem to have gone to a rugby conversation, 506 00:24:46,507 --> 00:24:48,267 Speaker 3: so you are looking forward to the cricket in the 507 00:24:48,387 --> 00:24:51,587 Speaker 3: in the week weeks ahead before Christmas, you'll take in 508 00:24:51,627 --> 00:24:52,067 Speaker 3: some of it. 509 00:24:52,947 --> 00:24:56,947 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, and being three years retired now and with 510 00:24:57,427 --> 00:25:00,827 Speaker 10: the last for three years having I don't have sky, 511 00:25:00,987 --> 00:25:04,467 Speaker 10: so having you know, the Test cricket on three to 512 00:25:04,547 --> 00:25:06,827 Speaker 10: wear TV and this will be of course the last 513 00:25:06,827 --> 00:25:10,987 Speaker 10: three to wear a Test cricket that we'll see. But 514 00:25:11,467 --> 00:25:15,547 Speaker 10: so I'll enjoy it. And yeah, as you're saying about 515 00:25:15,547 --> 00:25:18,307 Speaker 10: the weather, but we only need a maxim the month 516 00:25:18,427 --> 00:25:21,147 Speaker 10: three days for tests these days piny day, So so 517 00:25:21,267 --> 00:25:23,667 Speaker 10: can we get a fine three days somewhere in prist. 518 00:25:23,467 --> 00:25:25,947 Speaker 4: Fish bound to bound to Grant. 519 00:25:25,987 --> 00:25:27,907 Speaker 3: The good people of the Garden City will tell you 520 00:25:28,267 --> 00:25:30,987 Speaker 3: how nice it is usually down there in December. And look, 521 00:25:31,027 --> 00:25:32,587 Speaker 3: even if it does rain on one of the days, yeah, 522 00:25:32,587 --> 00:25:34,947 Speaker 3: we might not need all five. Thanks for your call, mate, 523 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:37,547 Speaker 3: Steve says Jason. I'm sixty one. In my younger days, 524 00:25:37,547 --> 00:25:39,987 Speaker 3: i'd take a week's annual leave just to watch a 525 00:25:40,027 --> 00:25:42,787 Speaker 3: Test match, pretty much a week on the couch, Steve. 526 00:25:42,827 --> 00:25:44,747 Speaker 3: I love that. I love that look. I've sit off 527 00:25:44,747 --> 00:25:47,347 Speaker 3: and on the show. I could easily spend an entire 528 00:25:47,347 --> 00:25:49,907 Speaker 3: Test match. You're sitting on the bank. I was going 529 00:25:49,987 --> 00:25:51,387 Speaker 3: to say watching it. You know, you watch it on 530 00:25:51,427 --> 00:25:54,267 Speaker 3: and off, right, you don't have to give laser focused 531 00:25:54,267 --> 00:25:58,027 Speaker 3: attention to every delivering in a Test match. But well, 532 00:25:58,067 --> 00:26:00,867 Speaker 3: for me, I mean some of my greatest days of 533 00:26:00,907 --> 00:26:03,907 Speaker 3: my younger years were spent on the basin reserve bank. 534 00:26:04,107 --> 00:26:04,387 Speaker 2: Dobo. 535 00:26:04,507 --> 00:26:05,827 Speaker 4: Hi, mate, you're a Test cricket fan. 536 00:26:07,187 --> 00:26:10,267 Speaker 11: Yes, even had the honor of commentating live on TV 537 00:26:10,347 --> 00:26:11,267 Speaker 11: three for a couple of them. 538 00:26:11,307 --> 00:26:12,387 Speaker 4: So how good. 539 00:26:12,467 --> 00:26:16,667 Speaker 11: What concerns me, Piney is last summer we had three 540 00:26:16,707 --> 00:26:19,627 Speaker 11: Tests against the Plums, and before that we had two 541 00:26:19,627 --> 00:26:21,987 Speaker 11: lots of two. So four Tests this summer we've got 542 00:26:21,987 --> 00:26:24,707 Speaker 11: three against some very weak west INNDY team who had 543 00:26:24,747 --> 00:26:27,667 Speaker 11: not been for some osimous fielding where I think was 544 00:26:27,707 --> 00:26:29,707 Speaker 11: it constantly let the ball through his legs, they would 545 00:26:29,747 --> 00:26:33,347 Speaker 11: have tied our all time low score of twenty sixteen fifties. 546 00:26:33,627 --> 00:26:33,867 Speaker 4: Yep. 547 00:26:35,067 --> 00:26:39,547 Speaker 11: So Weastundees don't offer much. I'm expecting that, unless the 548 00:26:39,587 --> 00:26:43,627 Speaker 11: weather intervenes, will flog them. What's concerning me is that 549 00:26:43,667 --> 00:26:46,747 Speaker 11: there's no home games of any three formats in January, 550 00:26:47,187 --> 00:26:50,027 Speaker 11: no home games of any of all three formats in February. 551 00:26:50,027 --> 00:26:51,707 Speaker 11: We've got to wait till the back end of March 552 00:26:51,787 --> 00:26:54,867 Speaker 11: before we get the South Africans come here. Could you 553 00:26:54,907 --> 00:26:58,387 Speaker 11: imagine all black itinery where Oh sorry, guys, we've got 554 00:26:58,427 --> 00:27:02,507 Speaker 11: no tests in July, no tests in June, no tests 555 00:27:02,547 --> 00:27:05,307 Speaker 11: in August. Sorry, can't help you, because that's what New 556 00:27:05,347 --> 00:27:08,347 Speaker 11: Zealand crickets dished up summer. We had the poms on 557 00:27:08,387 --> 00:27:10,067 Speaker 11: early in the ausies on and most of them were 558 00:27:10,147 --> 00:27:13,107 Speaker 11: rain effect until we get to the odiis that the 559 00:27:13,107 --> 00:27:15,667 Speaker 11: ploms couldn't bat more than forty overs. I think New 560 00:27:15,787 --> 00:27:18,387 Speaker 11: Zealand cricket has short changed the zeal In public so 561 00:27:18,587 --> 00:27:21,787 Speaker 11: badly and this arguably one of the worst summers of 562 00:27:21,827 --> 00:27:26,747 Speaker 11: cricket in New Zealand. We've been fed crumbs and with 563 00:27:26,787 --> 00:27:29,347 Speaker 11: the West Indies it doesn't get any more crummy. For 564 00:27:29,387 --> 00:27:30,907 Speaker 11: these three tests we've got come out. 565 00:27:31,347 --> 00:27:33,147 Speaker 3: Yeah, got on your double. Look I agree mate, And 566 00:27:33,387 --> 00:27:35,227 Speaker 3: look we know there's a Tea twenty World Cup and 567 00:27:35,267 --> 00:27:36,227 Speaker 3: they've got to get ready for that. 568 00:27:36,387 --> 00:27:37,027 Speaker 4: But you're right. 569 00:27:37,227 --> 00:27:39,507 Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the calendar that you've just absolutely 570 00:27:39,587 --> 00:27:45,107 Speaker 3: outlined for us, and yes, after after the third Test 571 00:27:45,187 --> 00:27:47,987 Speaker 3: against the West Indies which finishes just before Christmas, the 572 00:27:48,027 --> 00:27:50,347 Speaker 3: next time we get to see the black Caps on 573 00:27:50,467 --> 00:27:56,187 Speaker 3: home wickets is March the fifteenth, so we're effectively talking 574 00:27:56,507 --> 00:27:58,787 Speaker 3: the best part of three months. Yes, we have to 575 00:27:58,787 --> 00:28:00,707 Speaker 3: get ready for the T twenty World Cup, we know that, 576 00:28:01,227 --> 00:28:05,267 Speaker 3: but I would hope, and I honestly hope this so 577 00:28:05,427 --> 00:28:08,787 Speaker 3: much that we in the years ahead get back to 578 00:28:08,827 --> 00:28:12,387 Speaker 3: the point where we have Test matches in New Zealand 579 00:28:13,107 --> 00:28:17,187 Speaker 3: in February and March. I know n Z twenty or 580 00:28:17,227 --> 00:28:20,827 Speaker 3: whatever form our domestic T twenty competition takes will take 581 00:28:20,947 --> 00:28:26,307 Speaker 3: up January, and that's fine, totally cool with that. T 582 00:28:26,307 --> 00:28:29,187 Speaker 3: twenty cricket and whatever form it takes domestically can have 583 00:28:29,707 --> 00:28:32,747 Speaker 3: Boxing Day through to January thirty one, that's your window. 584 00:28:33,387 --> 00:28:37,267 Speaker 3: But we must, we must have international cricket and preferably 585 00:28:37,347 --> 00:28:40,787 Speaker 3: red balled international cricket in February and March if we 586 00:28:40,827 --> 00:28:43,987 Speaker 3: had to keep this going, Dob be good to chat to. Yep, Rich, 587 00:28:43,987 --> 00:28:46,547 Speaker 3: I knew you'd call mate. How I know you and 588 00:28:46,627 --> 00:28:49,587 Speaker 3: I have talked cricket a lot. What are your levels 589 00:28:49,587 --> 00:28:52,627 Speaker 3: of what are your levels of excitement if that's the 590 00:28:52,707 --> 00:28:55,347 Speaker 3: right word for this West in these Test series. 591 00:28:56,827 --> 00:28:59,307 Speaker 12: I'm still excited. I mean, it's still test cricket. I mean, 592 00:28:59,347 --> 00:29:02,667 Speaker 12: I know people say as the West Indies, what about 593 00:29:02,667 --> 00:29:05,147 Speaker 12: another opposition. I mean the big teams still come out 594 00:29:05,187 --> 00:29:07,987 Speaker 12: here finely. I mean Bet England here last year and 595 00:29:08,107 --> 00:29:08,667 Speaker 12: you know you've we. 596 00:29:08,707 --> 00:29:10,107 Speaker 13: Had Australia or you all that. 597 00:29:10,307 --> 00:29:13,347 Speaker 12: But you know we're just going through that that cycle. 598 00:29:13,387 --> 00:29:16,507 Speaker 12: I mean when you go look at when the ASHES starts, 599 00:29:16,547 --> 00:29:19,427 Speaker 12: it's basically eleven hours of test cricket because you've got 600 00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:21,107 Speaker 12: our test in the day and then you got the 601 00:29:21,107 --> 00:29:23,827 Speaker 12: pickball tests, so there'll be a lot of tight eyes 602 00:29:23,907 --> 00:29:26,227 Speaker 12: as you know, going through work later in the week. 603 00:29:26,387 --> 00:29:30,987 Speaker 12: So yeah, I think I think for me pointing is 604 00:29:31,027 --> 00:29:34,027 Speaker 12: you know this this deal with TV ANDZ, it's been 605 00:29:34,067 --> 00:29:37,907 Speaker 12: great to have test cricket, you know, eyeballs for everyone. 606 00:29:38,387 --> 00:29:42,427 Speaker 12: And I hope that when Sky look at their arrangements 607 00:29:42,427 --> 00:29:44,267 Speaker 12: of TV and said that it's not just the T 608 00:29:44,427 --> 00:29:48,027 Speaker 12: twenty stuff, but you know we're getting something like I 609 00:29:48,067 --> 00:29:51,307 Speaker 12: don't know whether it's a day five, an exciting Day 610 00:29:51,347 --> 00:29:54,067 Speaker 12: five or something like that, but you just think that, 611 00:29:54,187 --> 00:29:56,747 Speaker 12: you know, when we look at how crickets evolved and 612 00:29:57,187 --> 00:29:59,907 Speaker 12: how T twenty is that it's the test cricket that 613 00:30:00,587 --> 00:30:03,587 Speaker 12: needs to be looked after because T twenty looks after itself. 614 00:30:03,707 --> 00:30:07,027 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, that is a great point, right, it will. 615 00:30:07,467 --> 00:30:09,707 Speaker 3: It is now at the point T twenty. I'm not 616 00:30:09,707 --> 00:30:12,147 Speaker 3: telling you or anybody something that you don't already know. 617 00:30:12,147 --> 00:30:12,507 Speaker 4: T twenty. 618 00:30:12,547 --> 00:30:15,107 Speaker 3: You're right, it's now self sustaining. It's so big and 619 00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:16,147 Speaker 3: continuing to get bigger. 620 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:16,707 Speaker 4: But you're right. 621 00:30:16,947 --> 00:30:21,227 Speaker 3: The preservation of the oldest form of the game has 622 00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:24,027 Speaker 3: to be at the front of mind. And the free 623 00:30:24,027 --> 00:30:27,187 Speaker 3: towaar points are really interesting one. I think all you 624 00:30:27,187 --> 00:30:30,587 Speaker 3: know sports organizations now understand the need for free to 625 00:30:30,587 --> 00:30:33,947 Speaker 3: wear because you know, the exposure of their sport is 626 00:30:34,067 --> 00:30:37,347 Speaker 3: as important as the broadcast dollars they have coming in. 627 00:30:37,427 --> 00:30:39,867 Speaker 3: So that there has to be a split of some 628 00:30:39,947 --> 00:30:41,787 Speaker 3: sort and there has to be free to wear access 629 00:30:41,827 --> 00:30:43,307 Speaker 3: of And I agree with you, not just the odd 630 00:30:43,347 --> 00:30:45,267 Speaker 3: T twenty here and there, but what about I don't know, 631 00:30:45,387 --> 00:30:48,307 Speaker 3: what about the last session of Everyday's test cricket or 632 00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:49,387 Speaker 3: something like that, I don't know. 633 00:30:50,347 --> 00:30:52,467 Speaker 12: Yeah, And when you look at the schedule coming up 634 00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:54,147 Speaker 12: on it, I think the way I see it is 635 00:30:54,187 --> 00:30:58,547 Speaker 12: that October November have tests and it can lead into 636 00:30:58,587 --> 00:31:01,427 Speaker 12: December and you leave January and you know, or the 637 00:31:01,507 --> 00:31:03,747 Speaker 12: end of December for T twenty and then you have 638 00:31:03,827 --> 00:31:07,907 Speaker 12: February March, like you have a tour and that November 639 00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:10,187 Speaker 12: and then you have another tour in that fabra. I 640 00:31:10,187 --> 00:31:12,227 Speaker 12: think that's where we need to be looking about having 641 00:31:12,547 --> 00:31:14,987 Speaker 12: some test matches, So you know, I mean when you 642 00:31:15,027 --> 00:31:18,147 Speaker 12: look at this summer, it is a bit disappointing that 643 00:31:18,187 --> 00:31:20,267 Speaker 12: after this test series for away and then we go 644 00:31:20,307 --> 00:31:21,987 Speaker 12: to Indi year in January and I kind of like, 645 00:31:22,107 --> 00:31:24,867 Speaker 12: why why are we doing that? But T twenty is 646 00:31:24,867 --> 00:31:27,067 Speaker 12: a fickle game. But I think when you look at 647 00:31:27,067 --> 00:31:28,507 Speaker 12: next summer, I think we're going to be a lot 648 00:31:28,507 --> 00:31:31,587 Speaker 12: more happy when we've got India before Christmas, then we're 649 00:31:31,587 --> 00:31:34,187 Speaker 12: in Australian Christmas and then we've got shrill Anka it's 650 00:31:34,227 --> 00:31:37,267 Speaker 12: again for test too, so you know, it's just it 651 00:31:37,347 --> 00:31:39,547 Speaker 12: is what it is. But you know, there's a bit 652 00:31:39,587 --> 00:31:42,947 Speaker 12: frustrating when you get into that Christmas time and everyone's 653 00:31:42,947 --> 00:31:44,427 Speaker 12: on holiday and there's no test cricket. 654 00:31:45,027 --> 00:31:45,227 Speaker 2: Yeah. 655 00:31:47,027 --> 00:31:49,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, Thoughts and prayers with your family and mine as 656 00:31:49,627 --> 00:32:00,467 Speaker 3: they as they prepare for these days. 657 00:31:57,107 --> 00:31:59,187 Speaker 4: Made always good to jack cricket with you. We'll do 658 00:31:59,267 --> 00:32:02,307 Speaker 4: it again soon, Dallas high mate. 659 00:32:02,027 --> 00:32:04,867 Speaker 13: By the yeah, I just thought some prayers with Andy 660 00:32:04,907 --> 00:32:08,667 Speaker 13: to happy he's going to get more than two days 661 00:32:09,107 --> 00:32:09,827 Speaker 13: in Adelais. 662 00:32:10,227 --> 00:32:16,067 Speaker 14: Yes, so he reckons that you get a refund. That's 663 00:32:16,147 --> 00:32:18,427 Speaker 14: the games shortening, but not for rain. 664 00:32:19,107 --> 00:32:19,707 Speaker 15: Just the game. 665 00:32:19,787 --> 00:32:20,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the game ends. 666 00:32:21,067 --> 00:32:24,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what That's what really cost Cricket Australia. 667 00:32:24,227 --> 00:32:27,267 Speaker 3: In Perth Dallas they had to give back millions to 668 00:32:27,267 --> 00:32:30,067 Speaker 3: people who had bought tickets for the Sunday and Sunday 669 00:32:30,147 --> 00:32:31,467 Speaker 3: arrived and the game's done. 670 00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:35,107 Speaker 13: I bet they're not. I bet there's not many people 671 00:32:35,547 --> 00:32:37,427 Speaker 13: pre order for this for this week. 672 00:32:38,747 --> 00:32:41,387 Speaker 3: No, you do it day by day, wouldn't You'd say, okay, 673 00:32:41,387 --> 00:32:43,467 Speaker 3: well I'll buy it for day one, maybe day two, 674 00:32:43,867 --> 00:32:46,307 Speaker 3: and then I'll keep my keep my money and my 675 00:32:46,347 --> 00:32:47,627 Speaker 3: wallet and see what plays out. 676 00:32:49,347 --> 00:32:52,027 Speaker 13: Yeah, because not just it's the hotels, it's the cater 677 00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:54,427 Speaker 13: and it's everything you know to do with that as well. 678 00:32:54,507 --> 00:32:58,467 Speaker 13: So yeah, day neither too. They tend to be cricket, 679 00:32:58,507 --> 00:33:05,187 Speaker 13: an't they? And well, oh but my introduction to cricket 680 00:33:05,227 --> 00:33:07,507 Speaker 13: was sitting in the base three serve as a schoolboy 681 00:33:08,507 --> 00:33:12,667 Speaker 13: watching the West Indies and versus New Zealand, and I 682 00:33:12,707 --> 00:33:16,147 Speaker 13: remember went down and sixteen wickets fell on the day 683 00:33:17,347 --> 00:33:24,027 Speaker 13: and I saw the great Sobers scored thirty nine before lunch, 684 00:33:24,107 --> 00:33:27,787 Speaker 13: and five Lloyd. And when Sobers got out just before lunch, 685 00:33:28,867 --> 00:33:31,027 Speaker 13: five Lloyds swore it. I was just sitting near the 686 00:33:31,587 --> 00:33:35,147 Speaker 13: dressing he saw as he came in. You know, why'd 687 00:33:35,147 --> 00:33:37,547 Speaker 13: you get out before lunch? You know, I was ready 688 00:33:37,547 --> 00:33:39,347 Speaker 13: shocked to hear this language. 689 00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:41,027 Speaker 4: I'm shot. 690 00:33:41,107 --> 00:33:45,227 Speaker 3: I'm shocked anybody took issue with Gary Sobers any kind 691 00:33:45,267 --> 00:33:47,227 Speaker 3: of He's kind of untouchable, isn't he. 692 00:33:48,387 --> 00:33:50,867 Speaker 13: I thought he was, you know, he was like a hero. 693 00:33:51,027 --> 00:33:53,787 Speaker 13: And then five lloydreen dropping. 694 00:33:54,787 --> 00:33:57,667 Speaker 4: What year was? What year was there? Dalla's what around about? 695 00:33:57,667 --> 00:34:02,387 Speaker 13: What year between sixty eight sixty nine around there? I've 696 00:34:02,827 --> 00:34:03,587 Speaker 13: sort of looked. 697 00:34:03,347 --> 00:34:07,427 Speaker 14: It up sort of there on the records and Google, 698 00:34:07,467 --> 00:34:08,427 Speaker 14: you can google it up. 699 00:34:08,867 --> 00:34:14,547 Speaker 13: Yeah. But the other test was later on. I don't 700 00:34:14,547 --> 00:34:15,107 Speaker 13: know who's playing. 701 00:34:15,147 --> 00:34:18,827 Speaker 14: But we went down for the day to wearrington and 702 00:34:18,907 --> 00:34:22,067 Speaker 14: we wore white coats, and if you wear a white coat, 703 00:34:22,267 --> 00:34:23,307 Speaker 14: if you get into anything. 704 00:34:23,387 --> 00:34:26,947 Speaker 13: So we strolled out onto them. We strolled out onto 705 00:34:26,987 --> 00:34:31,547 Speaker 13: the middle before the tests and pretnny we were umpires 706 00:34:31,627 --> 00:34:33,227 Speaker 13: or something. Just have a look at the worker. And 707 00:34:33,307 --> 00:34:37,587 Speaker 13: then then we strolled into the New Zealand dressing changing test. 708 00:34:37,587 --> 00:34:41,347 Speaker 13: I'm serious that we could over here. Jeff Hower is 709 00:34:41,387 --> 00:34:43,627 Speaker 13: giving him a pet talk before the test. So there 710 00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:45,347 Speaker 13: you go. If you wear a white coat, you can 711 00:34:45,427 --> 00:34:46,467 Speaker 13: go anywhere and cricket. 712 00:34:47,067 --> 00:34:50,387 Speaker 4: I love that, Dallas, I absolutely love that, mate. I 713 00:34:50,427 --> 00:34:54,307 Speaker 4: love the just the pure cheek of it. A white 714 00:34:54,347 --> 00:34:56,307 Speaker 4: coat gets you anywhere. I think the high visa is 715 00:34:56,347 --> 00:34:58,987 Speaker 4: a similar thing today. Go on, you mate, great to chat. 716 00:34:59,027 --> 00:35:00,787 Speaker 4: I hope you enjoy the test. Cricket coming up as 717 00:35:00,827 --> 00:35:03,587 Speaker 4: much as you enjoyed it during the sixties and seventies. 718 00:35:03,667 --> 00:35:04,787 Speaker 4: Sixteen to one, we'll take your might. 719 00:35:04,827 --> 00:35:07,827 Speaker 3: Come back and catch up with each Sody who has 720 00:35:07,867 --> 00:35:10,227 Speaker 3: been around a long time but until this week had 721 00:35:10,307 --> 00:35:13,547 Speaker 3: never scored a first class century. Now he has, He's 722 00:35:13,587 --> 00:35:16,427 Speaker 3: a century maker. Each Sody coming up before one. 723 00:35:16,867 --> 00:35:19,827 Speaker 1: Would you be the TMO have your say on eight 724 00:35:19,907 --> 00:35:22,867 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty weekends for it with Jason 725 00:35:22,947 --> 00:35:26,987 Speaker 1: Hym and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder 726 00:35:27,107 --> 00:35:27,547 Speaker 1: News Talk. 727 00:35:27,627 --> 00:35:30,227 Speaker 3: They'd be twelve to one pointy. Why are they starting 728 00:35:30,227 --> 00:35:32,307 Speaker 3: test cricket on a Tuesday? Don't they realize we have 729 00:35:32,347 --> 00:35:34,307 Speaker 3: to work I think it's to get the games in. 730 00:35:34,547 --> 00:35:36,507 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Leon says, I 731 00:35:36,547 --> 00:35:38,787 Speaker 3: can't wait for this test cricket. Good on you, Leon, 732 00:35:38,827 --> 00:35:42,827 Speaker 3: I'm the same Tony. You've been watching cricket for a while, 733 00:35:42,867 --> 00:35:43,867 Speaker 3: by the sounds of things. 734 00:35:44,907 --> 00:35:45,467 Speaker 16: I remember. 735 00:35:45,467 --> 00:35:48,427 Speaker 17: I started watching cricket when Clive Lloyd was playing in 736 00:35:48,427 --> 00:35:50,907 Speaker 17: the Lancashire League. And I can't remember which town he 737 00:35:51,027 --> 00:35:54,867 Speaker 17: played for, but I came from liukletown called Clithero. Now 738 00:35:55,427 --> 00:35:57,907 Speaker 17: I think the thing that's ruined cricket is money in 739 00:35:57,987 --> 00:36:01,307 Speaker 17: knowsdes Clive Lloyd got some sort of returner as professional 740 00:36:01,347 --> 00:36:07,467 Speaker 17: for his town team and when if he scored fifty 741 00:36:07,547 --> 00:36:09,947 Speaker 17: I think it was or a baller got a hat trick, 742 00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:13,387 Speaker 17: maybe five wickets as well. The hat went around the 743 00:36:13,467 --> 00:36:16,947 Speaker 17: collection that went to the professional. That was That was 744 00:36:16,987 --> 00:36:18,907 Speaker 17: the level of cricket. But you know, and then I 745 00:36:18,987 --> 00:36:21,547 Speaker 17: follow him through. He ended up playing for Lancashire, of course, 746 00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:24,587 Speaker 17: and and then the West Indies. 747 00:36:25,867 --> 00:36:28,907 Speaker 4: He had terrible eyesight. He had terrible eyesight. 748 00:36:28,947 --> 00:36:31,987 Speaker 3: Didn't he wore those glasses and I guess they could 749 00:36:32,027 --> 00:36:35,187 Speaker 3: have he could have been affected by it. But he 750 00:36:35,387 --> 00:36:39,067 Speaker 3: was a magnificent hitter. Of a cricket ball, but also 751 00:36:39,307 --> 00:36:43,107 Speaker 3: a superb cover fieldsman. From memory, Clive Lloyd. 752 00:36:44,067 --> 00:36:45,787 Speaker 17: He could run a fair bit because he was a 753 00:36:45,827 --> 00:36:49,187 Speaker 17: tall bugg a very tall bugger. But the funniest thing 754 00:36:49,267 --> 00:36:52,547 Speaker 17: was watching when watching lankishere a guy called Pilling opened 755 00:36:52,587 --> 00:36:55,667 Speaker 17: with it. Pilling was a captain of Lankish and Pillings 756 00:36:55,667 --> 00:36:58,867 Speaker 17: stood at about five foot three and you could see 757 00:36:58,947 --> 00:37:02,347 Speaker 17: Pilling's little lais going hell for leather while Lloyd was 758 00:37:02,547 --> 00:37:05,947 Speaker 17: loping down the wicket about six strides one end to 759 00:37:05,987 --> 00:37:09,147 Speaker 17: the other, and then these little legs were going from 760 00:37:09,147 --> 00:37:10,907 Speaker 17: the other end. It was really quite amusing. 761 00:37:12,027 --> 00:37:14,147 Speaker 3: Love it, Love it, Tony, Yeah, I mean sorry, I've 762 00:37:14,147 --> 00:37:15,627 Speaker 3: got to move to one more caller before. 763 00:37:15,387 --> 00:37:16,187 Speaker 4: We get to the news mape. 764 00:37:16,187 --> 00:37:19,547 Speaker 3: But yeah, look I those days of that West Indies 765 00:37:19,627 --> 00:37:21,947 Speaker 3: team that Clive Lloyd led. He was the captain, wasn't 766 00:37:21,987 --> 00:37:24,707 Speaker 3: he sort of in the mid seventies into the eighties. 767 00:37:24,747 --> 00:37:27,147 Speaker 3: I should have included the seventies. Of course, it wasn't 768 00:37:27,187 --> 00:37:30,587 Speaker 3: just the eighties. They were sweeping all before them in 769 00:37:30,627 --> 00:37:33,627 Speaker 3: the seventies as well, including the first two Cricket World 770 00:37:33,667 --> 00:37:37,027 Speaker 3: Cups nineteen seventy five and nineteen seventy nine. Both won 771 00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:39,867 Speaker 3: by the West Indies very early days of one day 772 00:37:39,867 --> 00:37:42,507 Speaker 3: international cricket of vat one or even both of those 773 00:37:42,547 --> 00:37:45,667 Speaker 3: World Cups might have been sixty over matches from memory, 774 00:37:46,467 --> 00:37:49,427 Speaker 3: But Clive Lloyd Man, what a leader of men and 775 00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:50,107 Speaker 3: what a player? 776 00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:52,627 Speaker 5: Andrew, Hi, mate, yeah, gooday? 777 00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:53,267 Speaker 18: How are you today? 778 00:37:53,667 --> 00:37:54,027 Speaker 4: Very good? 779 00:37:54,027 --> 00:37:54,387 Speaker 12: Andrew? 780 00:37:55,467 --> 00:37:57,227 Speaker 18: Just do I know? It's just down at Pegas's and 781 00:37:57,307 --> 00:38:00,707 Speaker 18: bumped into a good legend of the game of cricket. 782 00:38:01,027 --> 00:38:04,387 Speaker 18: Sir Richard Hadley, How is the great man? 783 00:38:04,707 --> 00:38:04,867 Speaker 5: How? 784 00:38:05,107 --> 00:38:06,307 Speaker 4: How was the great Sir Richard? 785 00:38:07,267 --> 00:38:08,867 Speaker 18: I think he's rushing home to his wife to make 786 00:38:08,907 --> 00:38:10,387 Speaker 18: a cup of coffee. He had a bottle of milk 787 00:38:10,427 --> 00:38:14,387 Speaker 18: in his hand, so it was short and sweet. But 788 00:38:15,067 --> 00:38:19,067 Speaker 18: I took a quick selfie and I just tart from 789 00:38:19,107 --> 00:38:21,787 Speaker 18: promoting toilet paper at the present time. Does any of 790 00:38:21,867 --> 00:38:24,587 Speaker 18: your listeners or yourself know how else he feels in 791 00:38:24,667 --> 00:38:25,067 Speaker 18: his day? 792 00:38:25,787 --> 00:38:29,827 Speaker 3: Well, I know I would imagine that he is still 793 00:38:29,907 --> 00:38:31,067 Speaker 3: very invested in the game. 794 00:38:33,027 --> 00:38:38,107 Speaker 4: Yeah he he. I mean again, you know, you can 795 00:38:38,107 --> 00:38:41,667 Speaker 4: get a bit misty eyed on these things. But Richard, 796 00:38:41,747 --> 00:38:44,587 Speaker 4: as he was then, Sir Richard, now of some of 797 00:38:44,627 --> 00:38:48,547 Speaker 4: his performances in the eighties, you think to that fifteen wickets, 798 00:38:48,547 --> 00:38:50,987 Speaker 4: he got the Gabba and even in the earlier part 799 00:38:51,027 --> 00:38:52,627 Speaker 4: of his career when he came storming, he had a 800 00:38:52,627 --> 00:38:54,667 Speaker 4: little little shuffle at the top of his run and 801 00:38:54,747 --> 00:38:57,067 Speaker 4: came flying in. His shirt was hanging out the back 802 00:38:57,147 --> 00:38:59,987 Speaker 4: of his pants and away you went and Hadlee Hadlee 803 00:39:00,067 --> 00:39:01,787 Speaker 4: on the bank. I mean, what are memories. 804 00:39:02,707 --> 00:39:04,347 Speaker 18: I know, I told him I bold like him in 805 00:39:04,347 --> 00:39:07,267 Speaker 18: the backyard withther we shuffled, But yes, I wouldn't now 806 00:39:07,267 --> 00:39:08,347 Speaker 18: I'd end up on his face. 807 00:39:10,907 --> 00:39:12,107 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 808 00:39:13,467 --> 00:39:16,547 Speaker 18: My best memories of cricket as you know, of his era, 809 00:39:17,067 --> 00:39:20,227 Speaker 18: and then you know the crows and the likes. But yeah, 810 00:39:20,347 --> 00:39:21,787 Speaker 18: I don't rush home to watch it now. 811 00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:24,387 Speaker 5: Yeah. 812 00:39:24,387 --> 00:39:28,227 Speaker 3: Well, look I Andrew, I'm the same as you. My 813 00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:32,107 Speaker 3: most vivid memories of the game growing up, my introduction 814 00:39:32,147 --> 00:39:34,387 Speaker 3: to the game, and it's very much generational of course 815 00:39:34,427 --> 00:39:36,507 Speaker 3: because of the age that I am. But my introduction 816 00:39:36,547 --> 00:39:39,387 Speaker 3: to cricket was red ball cricket because that's what it 817 00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:42,947 Speaker 3: was back then, Test matches, first class games at the basin. 818 00:39:43,587 --> 00:39:45,467 Speaker 3: You know, I thought nothing of going along to watch 819 00:39:45,547 --> 00:39:49,587 Speaker 3: Wellington play against Northern Districts or Otago whoever it was. 820 00:39:49,707 --> 00:39:53,107 Speaker 3: And the Shell Trophy as it was back then, early eighties. 821 00:39:53,867 --> 00:39:57,027 Speaker 3: Take the radio along, listen to Sports Roundup. You know, 822 00:39:57,067 --> 00:39:58,787 Speaker 3: you can listen to the commentary on the band because 823 00:39:58,787 --> 00:39:59,667 Speaker 3: you're watching the game. 824 00:40:00,187 --> 00:40:00,507 Speaker 4: Again. 825 00:40:00,547 --> 00:40:03,947 Speaker 3: This is all very nostalgic, misty eyed stuff, and you know, 826 00:40:04,027 --> 00:40:07,107 Speaker 3: I know we have to move on, but I don't know. 827 00:40:07,147 --> 00:40:11,307 Speaker 3: There's a generation of youngsters now whose exposure to cricket 828 00:40:11,347 --> 00:40:13,267 Speaker 3: is the white ball game, and that's just the nature 829 00:40:13,307 --> 00:40:18,027 Speaker 3: of it. But for young boys and girls growing up 830 00:40:18,027 --> 00:40:21,227 Speaker 3: in the seventies, eighties and even before that, going way back, 831 00:40:21,387 --> 00:40:24,707 Speaker 3: their attraction to cricket, their love of the game was 832 00:40:24,747 --> 00:40:28,987 Speaker 3: fostered by test matches, by red ball stuff, and by 833 00:40:28,987 --> 00:40:31,227 Speaker 3: the heroes of those games. Good to know Sir Richard 834 00:40:31,267 --> 00:40:31,987 Speaker 3: is still kicking around. 835 00:40:32,027 --> 00:40:34,067 Speaker 4: He wasn't well there for a while, I think, but 836 00:40:34,107 --> 00:40:35,787 Speaker 4: I think he's come out the other end of that now. 837 00:40:36,187 --> 00:40:38,187 Speaker 4: A trust the jetter Sir Richard last year actually when 838 00:40:38,187 --> 00:40:40,907 Speaker 4: he was inducted into the Usion Cricket Hall of Fame 839 00:40:40,947 --> 00:40:43,467 Speaker 4: at the Basement Reserve. And he is still sharp ass. 840 00:40:44,147 --> 00:40:45,907 Speaker 3: He hasn't had any of the games he played, he'd 841 00:40:45,987 --> 00:40:48,667 Speaker 3: know the stats, so he got out what New Zealand 842 00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:50,587 Speaker 3: won by all of that stuff. Good to chat andrewck 843 00:40:50,667 --> 00:40:52,027 Speaker 3: and good to know that you caught up with a 844 00:40:52,027 --> 00:40:53,947 Speaker 3: great man himself. Seven to one News Talks. 845 00:40:53,907 --> 00:40:57,987 Speaker 1: Be sup from the trag fields and had the court 846 00:40:58,187 --> 00:41:00,787 Speaker 1: on your Home of Lords the weekends for it with 847 00:41:01,187 --> 00:41:01,987 Speaker 1: Jason Vine and. 848 00:41:02,107 --> 00:41:04,747 Speaker 3: Used TALKSB text and here. I did some work at 849 00:41:04,747 --> 00:41:06,627 Speaker 3: Sir Richard had Lee's house. All I want to do 850 00:41:06,707 --> 00:41:08,307 Speaker 3: was talk a zero off about cricket, but I kept 851 00:41:08,307 --> 00:41:10,587 Speaker 3: it professional. I didn't want to disturb the great man 852 00:41:10,747 --> 00:41:12,907 Speaker 3: at his home. I do see him most games at 853 00:41:12,907 --> 00:41:15,627 Speaker 3: the Hadley Pavilion. Thanks and get up here. Someone fossil 854 00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:18,467 Speaker 3: says Kevin. I care not for white ball cricket, but 855 00:41:18,507 --> 00:41:20,707 Speaker 3: I'm totally dedicated to test cricket. 856 00:41:20,707 --> 00:41:21,507 Speaker 4: I love it. Thanks keV. 857 00:41:21,707 --> 00:41:23,787 Speaker 3: Test cricket all the ways. Is this one T twenty 858 00:41:23,947 --> 00:41:27,267 Speaker 3: can give? I can give or take. I still enjoy 859 00:41:27,307 --> 00:41:30,427 Speaker 3: the fifty over stuff, but also the test matches. Thanks 860 00:41:30,427 --> 00:41:32,907 Speaker 3: for all your calls and correspondence. News next to one 861 00:41:32,987 --> 00:41:35,547 Speaker 3: and then Michael Campbell. 862 00:41:35,827 --> 00:41:38,787 Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 863 00:41:39,107 --> 00:41:40,267 Speaker 1: and afterfields. 864 00:41:40,827 --> 00:41:44,467 Speaker 2: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vaine on your 865 00:41:44,547 --> 00:41:45,587 Speaker 2: Home of Sport. 866 00:41:46,707 --> 00:41:50,347 Speaker 3: US Talks one O seven Welcome in to Weekend Sport. 867 00:41:50,427 --> 00:41:52,827 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine and McDonald 868 00:41:52,947 --> 00:41:55,987 Speaker 3: running the cutup. We're here till three, going to talk 869 00:41:56,027 --> 00:41:59,747 Speaker 3: some football, a bit of sailing, some basketball and American sport. 870 00:41:59,827 --> 00:42:00,347 Speaker 4: Utter two. 871 00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:06,907 Speaker 3: We'll keep eyes very closely on the BMW Australian PGA 872 00:42:07,147 --> 00:42:11,387 Speaker 3: Championship in Royal Queensland. As you heard from Elijah in 873 00:42:11,427 --> 00:42:13,707 Speaker 3: our sports news, the Kiwi's near the top of the 874 00:42:13,787 --> 00:42:14,747 Speaker 3: lead aboard. 875 00:42:14,507 --> 00:42:16,147 Speaker 4: Fall underwey in the next hour or so. 876 00:42:17,507 --> 00:42:20,507 Speaker 3: Kazumikabori just one shot off the lead, Daniel hilly A 877 00:42:20,587 --> 00:42:23,667 Speaker 3: one shot further back, Nick Voke one shot further back, 878 00:42:23,747 --> 00:42:26,667 Speaker 3: So the three of them well and truly in striking distance, 879 00:42:26,667 --> 00:42:28,747 Speaker 3: even Nick Vot's only three strokes off the lead. So 880 00:42:29,827 --> 00:42:32,107 Speaker 3: we will keep very very close eyes. 881 00:42:31,827 --> 00:42:38,067 Speaker 4: On the Australian PGA Championship for you. Speaking of golf, 882 00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:39,827 Speaker 4: Dare to be Different. 883 00:42:40,227 --> 00:42:44,987 Speaker 3: The Michael Campbell's Story, a compelling new feature length documentary 884 00:42:45,507 --> 00:42:49,387 Speaker 3: marking the twentieth anniversary of one of New Zealand's greatest 885 00:42:49,547 --> 00:42:54,427 Speaker 3: sporting triumphs, Michael Campbell's unforgettable win at the two thousand 886 00:42:54,467 --> 00:42:55,707 Speaker 3: and five US Open. 887 00:42:56,387 --> 00:43:00,667 Speaker 5: There's the difference three with Tiger. So he's got some cushions. 888 00:43:02,307 --> 00:43:04,707 Speaker 4: Well he's earned that cushion, especially with that funny man 889 00:43:04,747 --> 00:43:07,107 Speaker 4: in the last All straight up from. 890 00:43:06,787 --> 00:43:11,027 Speaker 19: Here, some two putts from there to put this away. 891 00:43:12,587 --> 00:43:15,547 Speaker 19: So ten years from laying one open slip away with 892 00:43:15,587 --> 00:43:18,827 Speaker 19: Michael Campbell, it's going to win the US Open. 893 00:43:22,027 --> 00:43:24,147 Speaker 4: And when you've had the up and down career that 894 00:43:24,227 --> 00:43:24,827 Speaker 4: he has. 895 00:43:27,747 --> 00:43:31,147 Speaker 20: At one point after that risk injury which we mentioned earlier. 896 00:43:30,747 --> 00:43:32,987 Speaker 21: We thought about bidding professional black. 897 00:43:32,787 --> 00:43:34,547 Speaker 5: While sitting in a French hotel room. 898 00:43:34,587 --> 00:43:35,787 Speaker 4: Back in ninety eighty, et. 899 00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:38,867 Speaker 19: Sept to three hundred and sixty in the world rankings 900 00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:40,147 Speaker 19: and it has. 901 00:43:40,067 --> 00:43:42,027 Speaker 4: Come back all the way to the top. 902 00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:44,507 Speaker 5: I mean a US Open. 903 00:43:45,347 --> 00:43:48,347 Speaker 4: You bet they've got some pride dial in New Zealand. 904 00:43:49,747 --> 00:43:53,707 Speaker 3: From Titahie Bay to the world stage, Michael Campbell's journey 905 00:43:53,747 --> 00:43:57,307 Speaker 3: is one of great belief and brilliance. Presented by Sky Sport, 906 00:43:57,707 --> 00:44:01,307 Speaker 3: this documentary traces his rise from humble beginnings to beating 907 00:44:01,307 --> 00:44:05,067 Speaker 3: golf's biggest names, including Tiger Woods, and becoming a major 908 00:44:05,107 --> 00:44:08,347 Speaker 3: winner and a nation No hero dare to be different. 909 00:44:08,427 --> 00:44:12,787 Speaker 3: Premiers tonight from seven o'clock on Sky Sport three Michael 910 00:44:12,827 --> 00:44:15,747 Speaker 3: Campbell is with us on Weekend Sport. First of all, 911 00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:20,467 Speaker 3: can you believe it's been twenty years since that audio 912 00:44:20,507 --> 00:44:23,387 Speaker 3: we just heard You'll win at the US Open. 913 00:44:24,427 --> 00:44:27,507 Speaker 5: No time has flown past, you know, over the last 914 00:44:27,507 --> 00:44:30,467 Speaker 5: many years, and when I look back and reminisce about 915 00:44:30,467 --> 00:44:35,307 Speaker 5: those times, it's always obviously wonderful memories of mine and 916 00:44:35,387 --> 00:44:39,507 Speaker 5: something I'll never forgets. It was an incredible ride. But 917 00:44:39,947 --> 00:44:44,587 Speaker 5: this documentary will explain to people the pathway to my success. 918 00:44:44,667 --> 00:44:49,907 Speaker 5: It wasn't about that particular day that's end result, but 919 00:44:50,107 --> 00:44:53,107 Speaker 5: that's the path and the journey I took to get there, 920 00:44:53,747 --> 00:44:57,387 Speaker 5: a lot of struggles and a lot of you know, 921 00:44:57,427 --> 00:45:01,307 Speaker 5: setbacks in my time and to the victories victories I've 922 00:45:01,307 --> 00:45:05,827 Speaker 5: had as a professional golfer, and it's I mean, I 923 00:45:05,907 --> 00:45:10,187 Speaker 5: really enjoy making it. It made me kind of really 924 00:45:10,227 --> 00:45:14,227 Speaker 5: think about how I got there in a very detailed way, 925 00:45:14,907 --> 00:45:17,707 Speaker 5: you know, going from my first coach, my dad when 926 00:45:17,747 --> 00:45:22,187 Speaker 5: I was six years old, to Dennis Sutherlan, who unfortunately 927 00:45:22,187 --> 00:45:26,227 Speaker 5: passed away this recently. My first coach, really real coach, 928 00:45:26,947 --> 00:45:29,347 Speaker 5: then Mel Toungue. He took me under his wing. He 929 00:45:29,387 --> 00:45:31,787 Speaker 5: looked after me from the age of sixteen onwards about 930 00:45:32,107 --> 00:45:36,627 Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four, Jonathan Yalwood. You know, all these 931 00:45:36,667 --> 00:45:40,667 Speaker 5: people made it possible victory. He Newgillan Golf, so it 932 00:45:40,707 --> 00:45:44,187 Speaker 5: wasn't just you know, as a group of a lot 933 00:45:44,187 --> 00:45:48,667 Speaker 5: of people over time, and you know, it's been fun. 934 00:45:48,747 --> 00:45:50,547 Speaker 5: I mean I went back to Pinehurst for the very 935 00:45:50,547 --> 00:45:53,427 Speaker 5: first time since I won. I went Bryson won Bucking 936 00:45:54,307 --> 00:45:57,787 Speaker 5: last year and with Sports Sports Inc. And Calson and 937 00:45:58,187 --> 00:46:01,267 Speaker 5: Randall were there and we really went through the hole 938 00:46:01,507 --> 00:46:04,507 Speaker 5: in the last eighteen holes of my round and I 939 00:46:04,507 --> 00:46:07,427 Speaker 5: said to myself, Matt, damn, this golf courses hard because 940 00:46:07,427 --> 00:46:10,187 Speaker 5: they had a camera crew follow me around a golf 941 00:46:10,227 --> 00:46:13,267 Speaker 5: course and I explained I knew every single shot. It's 942 00:46:13,347 --> 00:46:16,507 Speaker 5: incredible and it was so nice to go back there 943 00:46:16,547 --> 00:46:22,267 Speaker 5: and really just you know, go through all those wonderful memories. 944 00:46:22,387 --> 00:46:24,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get to those in a moment. 945 00:46:24,267 --> 00:46:26,227 Speaker 3: But can we take it back, Michael, Like many keep 946 00:46:26,267 --> 00:46:28,187 Speaker 3: with kids growing up, you wanted to be an all Black, 947 00:46:28,267 --> 00:46:32,027 Speaker 3: didn't you. You know when and how did golf take 948 00:46:32,067 --> 00:46:32,507 Speaker 3: hold of you? 949 00:46:32,627 --> 00:46:33,947 Speaker 4: Was it mainly through your dad? 950 00:46:34,987 --> 00:46:40,067 Speaker 5: Yeah? Dad, it didn't really push me, but my mum 951 00:46:40,667 --> 00:46:45,907 Speaker 5: didn't like me playing rugby, and I knew it wasn't 952 00:46:45,947 --> 00:46:48,107 Speaker 5: good enough. You kind of know as a kid when 953 00:46:48,147 --> 00:46:50,827 Speaker 5: you go through those phases. So I started playing rugby 954 00:46:50,827 --> 00:46:54,627 Speaker 5: at five years old. At about probably ten eleven, you 955 00:46:54,787 --> 00:46:57,347 Speaker 5: just know you're not good enough. And so I thought, okay, 956 00:46:57,547 --> 00:47:00,827 Speaker 5: I'll drop that rugby dream. And then all of a sudden, 957 00:47:00,867 --> 00:47:05,307 Speaker 5: I focused on golf, and I don't know, golf seemed 958 00:47:05,347 --> 00:47:09,467 Speaker 5: easy for me at that stage, and that's when I 959 00:47:09,467 --> 00:47:13,147 Speaker 5: took up golf service around thirteen. You know, imagine, I 960 00:47:13,187 --> 00:47:15,827 Speaker 5: think it's a great story. You know, it had grown 961 00:47:15,947 --> 00:47:20,187 Speaker 5: up in Titahi Bay, playing on the golf course that's 962 00:47:20,227 --> 00:47:24,667 Speaker 5: got sheep everywhere, fences around the greens, one club, one board, 963 00:47:24,827 --> 00:47:28,067 Speaker 5: maybe two balls, had a sex time. Went from that 964 00:47:28,147 --> 00:47:30,027 Speaker 5: to winning the US Open, one of the biggest tournaments 965 00:47:30,067 --> 00:47:31,867 Speaker 5: in the world. So it's a great story and it's 966 00:47:31,867 --> 00:47:34,827 Speaker 5: why I wanted to share this with everyone out there. 967 00:47:36,147 --> 00:47:40,307 Speaker 5: How you know, sometimes dreams maybe impossible, but but I 968 00:47:40,387 --> 00:47:44,907 Speaker 5: made it possible by believing in my dreams. And that's 969 00:47:44,947 --> 00:47:47,147 Speaker 5: one thing I want to send a message to everyone 970 00:47:48,027 --> 00:47:50,027 Speaker 5: and through this documentary back home, is that you know, 971 00:47:50,027 --> 00:47:54,267 Speaker 5: anything is possible, Anything is possible, and you know, for me, 972 00:47:54,787 --> 00:47:57,027 Speaker 5: golf was more than just a game. It's about creating 973 00:47:57,307 --> 00:48:01,707 Speaker 5: moments and time and memories, and winning the US Open 974 00:48:01,827 --> 00:48:04,787 Speaker 5: was mine. So yeah, it just goes to show that 975 00:48:04,827 --> 00:48:08,347 Speaker 5: you know anything is possible for or you know their 976 00:48:08,347 --> 00:48:09,627 Speaker 5: futurem Big Well. 977 00:48:09,627 --> 00:48:12,387 Speaker 3: In the DOCCO you tell the story of standing up 978 00:48:12,427 --> 00:48:15,427 Speaker 3: on your first day at Manna College, which is your 979 00:48:15,467 --> 00:48:18,787 Speaker 3: secondary school, and announcing you wanted to be a pro golfer, 980 00:48:18,827 --> 00:48:22,827 Speaker 3: and everybody laughing, presumably, I guess, because there weren't too 981 00:48:22,827 --> 00:48:24,427 Speaker 3: many Maldi golfers around at that time. 982 00:48:24,747 --> 00:48:28,147 Speaker 4: Were you driven by wanting to break that mold or 983 00:48:28,187 --> 00:48:30,387 Speaker 4: did you just want to be a golfer? 984 00:48:31,907 --> 00:48:35,067 Speaker 5: No, I was driven by that. Actually, yes, I remember 985 00:48:35,107 --> 00:48:37,147 Speaker 5: that day. It was. It was at Mount College, first 986 00:48:37,307 --> 00:48:40,867 Speaker 5: at school when I was thirteen years old, and we 987 00:48:40,907 --> 00:48:44,067 Speaker 5: had to introduce ourselves, our names and parents and where 988 00:48:44,067 --> 00:48:46,627 Speaker 5: we came from, what they did, and what's your future, 989 00:48:46,747 --> 00:48:50,667 Speaker 5: what's your future goals? And almost classmates were saying the 990 00:48:50,747 --> 00:48:56,907 Speaker 5: usual kind of theme policemen, fireman, doctor, nurse, whatever. And 991 00:48:57,387 --> 00:48:59,747 Speaker 5: it was my time to come, I said, golf professional, 992 00:48:59,787 --> 00:49:02,507 Speaker 5: and I remember every single person in their classroom laughed 993 00:49:02,627 --> 00:49:06,107 Speaker 5: at me. I'm still there, standing standing tall, and I 994 00:49:06,107 --> 00:49:09,267 Speaker 5: thought tell you what, one day, I'll definitely have the 995 00:49:09,387 --> 00:49:12,587 Speaker 5: last laugh. And all my mates from school now play golf. 996 00:49:12,827 --> 00:49:17,707 Speaker 5: So it was, it was, it was, you know, I 997 00:49:17,787 --> 00:49:20,227 Speaker 5: just wanted you're right. I mean, not many Maori play 998 00:49:20,307 --> 00:49:23,587 Speaker 5: golf back in the seventies and eighties and there was 999 00:49:23,667 --> 00:49:27,387 Speaker 5: no professional golfers on tour. I'll never forget in the 1000 00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:31,147 Speaker 5: moment when I thought, okay, this is my my pathway 1001 00:49:31,267 --> 00:49:35,587 Speaker 5: was when I was watching Golf Life Golf with Dad 1002 00:49:36,307 --> 00:49:40,707 Speaker 5: earlier hours in the morning, the US Masters back in 1003 00:49:40,827 --> 00:49:42,987 Speaker 5: eighties or something like that, eighty two to eighty three, 1004 00:49:43,027 --> 00:49:46,627 Speaker 5: and it's early in the morning because the time difference, 1005 00:49:46,667 --> 00:49:51,147 Speaker 5: and I remember watching watching Jack Nicholas playing Augusta US 1006 00:49:51,147 --> 00:49:55,187 Speaker 5: Masters and I said to Dad, there's no no New 1007 00:49:55,267 --> 00:49:58,547 Speaker 5: Zealanders in the field. Well, no no Malby in the 1008 00:49:58,587 --> 00:50:01,467 Speaker 5: field because they're not good enough Michael. And I thought, 1009 00:50:01,747 --> 00:50:04,947 Speaker 5: well maybe I can change that. So that really changed 1010 00:50:04,947 --> 00:50:09,547 Speaker 5: my whole That's that's part of the reason was proof 1011 00:50:09,547 --> 00:50:12,067 Speaker 5: of the world that that Moldy can play golf. So 1012 00:50:12,387 --> 00:50:13,507 Speaker 5: I think I succeeded there. 1013 00:50:13,587 --> 00:50:14,307 Speaker 4: You certainly did. 1014 00:50:14,387 --> 00:50:17,227 Speaker 3: You had a high degree of amateur success, including the 1015 00:50:17,267 --> 00:50:21,267 Speaker 3: Eisenhower of course, and turn professional in nineteen ninety three. 1016 00:50:21,867 --> 00:50:24,627 Speaker 3: How long did it take you to feel at home 1017 00:50:24,787 --> 00:50:26,587 Speaker 3: comfortable on the pro circuit? 1018 00:50:28,107 --> 00:50:32,467 Speaker 5: Very quickly, I won very quickly, about five weeks after 1019 00:50:32,507 --> 00:50:35,947 Speaker 5: I turned pro. I was lucky, well lucky, a bit 1020 00:50:35,947 --> 00:50:38,987 Speaker 5: of hard work, but one very quickly. So I felt 1021 00:50:39,107 --> 00:50:42,347 Speaker 5: very very comfortable on tour and then let's whend things 1022 00:50:42,347 --> 00:50:44,827 Speaker 5: forgot for me and then I finished. Then he won 1023 00:50:44,867 --> 00:50:48,027 Speaker 5: the Open ninety five, so it kind of like just 1024 00:50:48,147 --> 00:50:51,747 Speaker 5: compounded from there. So I went from, you know, being 1025 00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:54,667 Speaker 5: one of the best Australasian players back in the early 1026 00:50:54,867 --> 00:50:56,507 Speaker 5: nineties to it of a sudden in one of the 1027 00:50:56,507 --> 00:51:01,427 Speaker 5: best European tour players. So I took the elavator to 1028 00:51:01,467 --> 00:51:04,067 Speaker 5: the top very quickly. Some people and take the stairs. 1029 00:51:04,107 --> 00:51:10,307 Speaker 5: I took the elevator, went to the open. Where that 1030 00:51:10,387 --> 00:51:13,427 Speaker 5: comes from, I don't know, but yeah, and I had 1031 00:51:13,467 --> 00:51:16,147 Speaker 5: success very quickly, and it was it was so I 1032 00:51:16,147 --> 00:51:18,467 Speaker 5: felt very comfortable very quickly. So that's why I think 1033 00:51:18,707 --> 00:51:20,507 Speaker 5: I kind of hung around for a very long time 1034 00:51:21,547 --> 00:51:24,387 Speaker 5: on tour for twenty years or so before I retired 1035 00:51:24,427 --> 00:51:29,267 Speaker 5: about what ten years ago now ship twelve years ago. 1036 00:51:31,147 --> 00:51:34,707 Speaker 5: So yeah, look, you know, I'm very appreciative of my career, 1037 00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:38,227 Speaker 5: what I've done, and hopefully in this documentary you will 1038 00:51:38,227 --> 00:51:41,547 Speaker 5: explain how it kind of unfolded. 1039 00:51:42,347 --> 00:51:44,667 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the two thousand and five 1040 00:51:44,747 --> 00:51:47,947 Speaker 3: US Open. You were ranked eightieth in the world at 1041 00:51:47,987 --> 00:51:50,627 Speaker 3: that time, so you had to go through qualifying to 1042 00:51:50,787 --> 00:51:53,427 Speaker 3: even make it into the field for the US Open 1043 00:51:53,427 --> 00:51:56,667 Speaker 3: at Pinehurst number two. Once you had done that, what 1044 00:51:56,747 --> 00:51:58,987 Speaker 3: were your ambitions going into the tournament. 1045 00:52:02,347 --> 00:52:07,947 Speaker 5: That particular moment or two or three months, I was 1046 00:52:07,947 --> 00:52:11,787 Speaker 5: playing well, you know, going into the US Open, and 1047 00:52:11,867 --> 00:52:15,907 Speaker 5: so I set a goal and you're seeing the documentary 1048 00:52:15,907 --> 00:52:19,427 Speaker 5: of my goal setting. Since I was twelve thirteen years old, 1049 00:52:20,347 --> 00:52:22,547 Speaker 5: I had a little black book that I kept for 1050 00:52:22,707 --> 00:52:26,187 Speaker 5: myself and my mom started that for me many many 1051 00:52:26,267 --> 00:52:30,707 Speaker 5: years ago when I was thirteen, and things like if 1052 00:52:30,747 --> 00:52:35,027 Speaker 5: I break one hundred, you know, I'll buy a new driver. 1053 00:52:35,587 --> 00:52:39,187 Speaker 5: For breaking ninety, I've got a new pudder. So I've 1054 00:52:39,227 --> 00:52:41,827 Speaker 5: always been a goal setter ever since then. My mum 1055 00:52:41,947 --> 00:52:45,147 Speaker 5: taught me that a very young age. Unfortunately she passed 1056 00:52:45,187 --> 00:52:48,707 Speaker 5: away a couple of years ago, but yeah, so she 1057 00:52:49,067 --> 00:52:51,147 Speaker 5: planted a seed in my mind about goal sitting. And 1058 00:52:52,827 --> 00:52:55,307 Speaker 5: so what I'm going to now is that week of 1059 00:52:55,427 --> 00:52:59,147 Speaker 5: the US Open. Every week I had a goal, you know, 1060 00:52:59,187 --> 00:53:01,587 Speaker 5: when I was out there playing break thirty parts or 1061 00:53:01,667 --> 00:53:04,307 Speaker 5: hit at twelve out of fourteen fairways. You know, I 1062 00:53:04,427 --> 00:53:07,107 Speaker 5: think an extra five minutes on the tree mill in, 1063 00:53:07,107 --> 00:53:09,667 Speaker 5: an extra five sit ups, or whatever it's going to be. 1064 00:53:10,867 --> 00:53:12,987 Speaker 5: There's always something I always had in my mind that 1065 00:53:13,107 --> 00:53:21,667 Speaker 5: week to achieve, and playing golf was one was the 1066 00:53:21,667 --> 00:53:24,987 Speaker 5: the reason why I did it, but also the I 1067 00:53:25,067 --> 00:53:27,507 Speaker 5: was focusing on the on the small things that make 1068 00:53:27,547 --> 00:53:29,907 Speaker 5: it make a difference, and that was one big thing 1069 00:53:29,907 --> 00:53:32,707 Speaker 5: for me with a goal setting side. That week of 1070 00:53:32,787 --> 00:53:36,307 Speaker 5: the US Open, I see myself top ten. I'm going 1071 00:53:36,387 --> 00:53:38,307 Speaker 5: to buy myself a second hand Porsche because I love 1072 00:53:38,347 --> 00:53:41,547 Speaker 5: my Porsches. You know, twenty thousand miles on the clock, 1073 00:53:42,867 --> 00:53:46,707 Speaker 5: three or four years old, spend twenty five pounds. Because 1074 00:53:46,707 --> 00:53:49,387 Speaker 5: I was living in London at the time, and so 1075 00:53:49,467 --> 00:53:54,227 Speaker 5: I wrote nine ninety seven, which is the model of 1076 00:53:54,307 --> 00:53:56,947 Speaker 5: the year in two thousand and five, and nine nine 1077 00:53:57,067 --> 00:54:00,547 Speaker 5: seven was my markings on my ball. Normally do do 1078 00:54:00,707 --> 00:54:03,267 Speaker 5: like a cross or a line or darts whatever, but 1079 00:54:03,307 --> 00:54:05,107 Speaker 5: I put nine ninety seven. That was one of the 1080 00:54:06,187 --> 00:54:10,627 Speaker 5: was my goal. And after three rounds also I noticed 1081 00:54:10,667 --> 00:54:13,587 Speaker 5: I was leading well clost to the lease. I said 1082 00:54:13,587 --> 00:54:16,027 Speaker 5: to myself, Okay, so I crossed that out and then 1083 00:54:16,107 --> 00:54:20,627 Speaker 5: put down a brand new Porsche. And then in the 1084 00:54:20,707 --> 00:54:25,067 Speaker 5: final round, this is absolute truth. All I was thinking 1085 00:54:25,067 --> 00:54:30,587 Speaker 5: about was my Porsche. The color of the of the car, 1086 00:54:32,027 --> 00:54:36,507 Speaker 5: side of the wheels, the shape of the exhaust pipes, 1087 00:54:36,587 --> 00:54:41,627 Speaker 5: the great breaker pillars, the interior. I'm not kidding, you know. 1088 00:54:41,667 --> 00:54:43,667 Speaker 5: That's what I thought about. The whole eighteen holes in 1089 00:54:43,707 --> 00:54:45,827 Speaker 5: the last round. Was that. And then obviously I was 1090 00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:48,667 Speaker 5: the bigger picture of the US Open. But I played 1091 00:54:48,667 --> 00:54:50,707 Speaker 5: a game within the game, you know. I decided to 1092 00:54:51,107 --> 00:54:53,627 Speaker 5: keep it trying to keep it small within something that 1093 00:54:53,667 --> 00:54:57,387 Speaker 5: I can control, because you can't control the other players. 1094 00:54:57,787 --> 00:54:59,987 Speaker 5: You can't control the crowds, the weather. But I can 1095 00:55:00,067 --> 00:55:02,747 Speaker 5: control what I think I can achieve. And it was 1096 00:55:03,387 --> 00:55:07,507 Speaker 5: that Porsche. So and then the final final part, and 1097 00:55:07,827 --> 00:55:12,347 Speaker 5: the first thing I thought about was my to before 1098 00:55:12,387 --> 00:55:14,547 Speaker 5: I'll hang on here. I've actually won the USA went 1099 00:55:14,587 --> 00:55:16,707 Speaker 5: as well, so that's a bonus. Yeah, so that's a 1100 00:55:16,707 --> 00:55:17,227 Speaker 5: true story. 1101 00:55:17,347 --> 00:55:19,587 Speaker 4: I love that story. That is so brilliant. 1102 00:55:19,627 --> 00:55:23,187 Speaker 3: So on the final afternoon, you held your nerve as 1103 00:55:23,187 --> 00:55:26,827 Speaker 3: others drop shots and coming down the streets. You basically 1104 00:55:26,827 --> 00:55:29,947 Speaker 3: found yourself in a straight shootout with none other than 1105 00:55:29,987 --> 00:55:33,707 Speaker 3: the world number one Tiger Woods. He's hunting a tenth major. 1106 00:55:34,067 --> 00:55:37,027 Speaker 3: It's the US Open, so pretty much the entire fifty 1107 00:55:37,107 --> 00:55:39,707 Speaker 3: thousand strong gallerries cheering him on. 1108 00:55:40,867 --> 00:55:42,507 Speaker 4: What was that like, Michael? 1109 00:55:45,427 --> 00:55:53,987 Speaker 5: How much in controller was of my mind? How karma 1110 00:55:54,027 --> 00:56:00,707 Speaker 5: was surprisingly how much of words I thought I was 1111 00:56:00,707 --> 00:56:03,707 Speaker 5: going to win this? And know I can say it now, 1112 00:56:04,547 --> 00:56:09,467 Speaker 5: but I think it comes down to a mental resilience, 1113 00:56:10,307 --> 00:56:11,227 Speaker 5: mental fortitude. 1114 00:56:11,267 --> 00:56:11,427 Speaker 11: You know. 1115 00:56:11,507 --> 00:56:14,507 Speaker 5: Yes, you've got the physical demands. I've gone out there 1116 00:56:14,547 --> 00:56:16,947 Speaker 5: and playing different shots and your swing and you're putting 1117 00:56:17,027 --> 00:56:19,547 Speaker 5: your chipping, your bunker, playing a sort of different aspects. 1118 00:56:19,547 --> 00:56:23,707 Speaker 5: But it comes down what's you know between these between 1119 00:56:23,747 --> 00:56:29,587 Speaker 5: your ears? And I was very very determined, and I 1120 00:56:29,627 --> 00:56:33,267 Speaker 5: knew that the goal was very very close, and and 1121 00:56:33,307 --> 00:56:37,467 Speaker 5: it took, you know, twenty years to get there, you know, 1122 00:56:37,707 --> 00:56:39,587 Speaker 5: you know, as I said before earlier in the interview, 1123 00:56:39,627 --> 00:56:41,787 Speaker 5: and it's not about that particular day. It's it's how 1124 00:56:42,787 --> 00:56:47,227 Speaker 5: it all unfolded, you know, with my team behind me, 1125 00:56:47,467 --> 00:56:51,667 Speaker 5: within the people who were involved, for example, all the 1126 00:56:52,587 --> 00:56:56,427 Speaker 5: I was thinking about a lot of people after the round, 1127 00:56:56,547 --> 00:57:00,667 Speaker 5: after after one. People helped me as a kid growing 1128 00:57:00,747 --> 00:57:03,667 Speaker 5: up at Titahi Golf Club, I had a lot of mentors. 1129 00:57:03,907 --> 00:57:06,547 Speaker 5: People used to pick me up from early mornings to 1130 00:57:06,707 --> 00:57:09,147 Speaker 5: take me to tow club when I was a kid. 1131 00:57:09,307 --> 00:57:12,507 Speaker 5: You know, things like that. You know, I try to 1132 00:57:12,547 --> 00:57:14,987 Speaker 5: thank them, and this is my way of thinking them 1133 00:57:15,187 --> 00:57:17,347 Speaker 5: was to win the biggest, biggest talment in the world. 1134 00:57:17,347 --> 00:57:21,907 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of these thousands of hundreds of 1135 00:57:21,947 --> 00:57:25,107 Speaker 5: people who helped me out, So you know, it's hard, 1136 00:57:25,227 --> 00:57:28,187 Speaker 5: hard to kind of like pin point just a few. 1137 00:57:28,307 --> 00:57:30,987 Speaker 5: There's more than just a few. And I was thinking 1138 00:57:30,987 --> 00:57:34,427 Speaker 5: about them really and without them, without their help and 1139 00:57:34,467 --> 00:57:38,987 Speaker 5: their guidance then mentoring, this wouldn't happen. So you know, 1140 00:57:39,427 --> 00:57:41,627 Speaker 5: the final result was winning the US Open, But how 1141 00:57:41,627 --> 00:57:45,987 Speaker 5: I got there was a great journey. I think, amazing. 1142 00:57:46,347 --> 00:57:50,387 Speaker 4: Amazing. So you're a major winner, You've won the US Open. 1143 00:57:50,747 --> 00:57:54,507 Speaker 4: How much did that win change your life? 1144 00:57:57,187 --> 00:58:05,907 Speaker 5: Uh, it's I wasn't prepared for it, to be honest. 1145 00:58:06,667 --> 00:58:10,387 Speaker 5: I remember their I remember the first time I had 1146 00:58:10,387 --> 00:58:14,227 Speaker 5: a meeting with my team, a management group at the time, 1147 00:58:14,267 --> 00:58:16,547 Speaker 5: and I said, I want to go home. This is 1148 00:58:16,747 --> 00:58:21,467 Speaker 5: literally a week after I won, And they said, are 1149 00:58:21,507 --> 00:58:24,747 Speaker 5: you fidding me. There is no time, Michael, I said, 1150 00:58:24,867 --> 00:58:26,427 Speaker 5: you're going to make time. You're going to make time 1151 00:58:26,467 --> 00:58:29,147 Speaker 5: to go home and share my success with my people, 1152 00:58:30,467 --> 00:58:33,587 Speaker 5: and they go best than possible. I said, well, no, 1153 00:58:34,027 --> 00:58:39,067 Speaker 5: I want ten days. So Emirates flew me over with 1154 00:58:39,067 --> 00:58:42,947 Speaker 5: my family and we had a crazy ten days and 1155 00:58:43,067 --> 00:58:46,867 Speaker 5: a ticket tape arraide homecoming tour, went to all these 1156 00:58:46,907 --> 00:58:51,627 Speaker 5: schools around New Zealand to inspire young kids. I did 1157 00:58:51,667 --> 00:58:53,347 Speaker 5: it for New Zealand, not for me, didn't. I don't 1158 00:58:53,347 --> 00:58:57,107 Speaker 5: need the publicity. That's the last thing I wanted. And 1159 00:58:57,227 --> 00:59:01,107 Speaker 5: it was important for me because you know, my grandmother 1160 00:59:01,107 --> 00:59:03,187 Speaker 5: and I were very, very close. She passed away many 1161 00:59:03,347 --> 00:59:07,427 Speaker 5: many years ago when I was sixteen, but she always 1162 00:59:07,427 --> 00:59:11,147 Speaker 5: told me that I would do something special. You know, 1163 00:59:12,587 --> 00:59:15,507 Speaker 5: I was ten years old when we're having these conversations. 1164 00:59:16,227 --> 00:59:19,747 Speaker 5: I didn't start playing golf then, but she knew something 1165 00:59:19,987 --> 00:59:22,747 Speaker 5: was you know, I was. I was fashal in some 1166 00:59:22,827 --> 00:59:24,147 Speaker 5: sort of way, and I thought she was a little 1167 00:59:24,187 --> 00:59:26,627 Speaker 5: bit you know, okay, grand made a little bit nutty, 1168 00:59:26,667 --> 00:59:30,667 Speaker 5: but okay, I'll believe you. And she still there's the 1169 00:59:30,667 --> 00:59:35,547 Speaker 5: confidence in me a lot so and then when this happened, 1170 00:59:35,627 --> 00:59:38,427 Speaker 5: I kind of understood what she was talking about, and 1171 00:59:38,547 --> 00:59:43,707 Speaker 5: she always told me that one of her philosophy philosophies 1172 00:59:43,787 --> 00:59:45,827 Speaker 5: is that you know, you were born with two hands, 1173 00:59:45,907 --> 00:59:48,987 Speaker 5: one to give, one to give, one to take, one 1174 00:59:49,067 --> 00:59:51,587 Speaker 5: to receive. Sorry, I want to give back, and so 1175 00:59:51,747 --> 00:59:55,107 Speaker 5: when I received the Serious Open victory, I wanted to 1176 00:59:55,107 --> 00:59:58,507 Speaker 5: get back to my people back home and inspire people 1177 00:59:58,587 --> 01:00:01,227 Speaker 5: back home with these young kids that you know, any 1178 01:00:01,307 --> 01:00:02,147 Speaker 5: dreams possible. 1179 01:00:02,267 --> 01:00:02,467 Speaker 22: You know. 1180 01:00:02,547 --> 01:00:06,347 Speaker 5: You imagine I was sitting down watching the best player 1181 01:00:06,427 --> 01:00:09,467 Speaker 5: in the world of my father at thirteen years old, Barllion, 1182 01:00:09,467 --> 01:00:12,627 Speaker 5: hours in the morning, watching these guys play these amazing 1183 01:00:12,667 --> 01:00:15,787 Speaker 5: golf courses, and I'm thinking, I want to be there 1184 01:00:15,827 --> 01:00:21,307 Speaker 5: one day happen, you know. So that's goes to show 1185 01:00:21,347 --> 01:00:23,747 Speaker 5: that you know, anything's possible. I know that I've said 1186 01:00:23,747 --> 01:00:27,147 Speaker 5: that word I like, but that's one where the sentence 1187 01:00:27,187 --> 01:00:29,227 Speaker 5: that comes strings to my mind every single time I 1188 01:00:29,307 --> 01:00:32,987 Speaker 5: talk about this is that, you know, I went from 1189 01:00:33,587 --> 01:00:36,507 Speaker 5: golf club to winning and major championships and bidding target 1190 01:00:36,547 --> 01:00:39,387 Speaker 5: at the same time. So you can't get better than that. 1191 01:00:39,307 --> 01:00:42,267 Speaker 4: No, you cannot. What a journey, What a journey it's been. 1192 01:00:42,387 --> 01:00:45,587 Speaker 4: And the journey, of course has continued over the past 1193 01:00:45,587 --> 01:00:48,587 Speaker 4: twenty years, it's been a roller ghost. And in fact, 1194 01:00:48,627 --> 01:00:51,907 Speaker 4: you have had some challenges, haven't you, Michael, particularly in 1195 01:00:51,907 --> 01:00:52,907 Speaker 4: the last year or so. 1196 01:00:54,747 --> 01:01:00,107 Speaker 5: Yes, I have. The last three years or so, I've 1197 01:01:00,467 --> 01:01:03,707 Speaker 5: going to be going through bit of heart problems. That's 1198 01:01:03,747 --> 01:01:06,547 Speaker 5: got actual fibrillation that's quite common back in the day, 1199 01:01:07,267 --> 01:01:11,707 Speaker 5: especially now. And yeah, I had had heart surge tree 1200 01:01:11,827 --> 01:01:15,387 Speaker 5: about two months ago, and I'm feeling so much better now. 1201 01:01:16,067 --> 01:01:20,907 Speaker 5: Actual fibrillations basically racing too fast, your heart's racing too 1202 01:01:20,947 --> 01:01:23,947 Speaker 5: fast and algorithm and I fixed that. Now I feel 1203 01:01:23,947 --> 01:01:27,027 Speaker 5: like a like a third year old now, all around 1204 01:01:27,027 --> 01:01:31,147 Speaker 5: fifty six. I feel much younger and playing better now 1205 01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,987 Speaker 5: because I was on the golf course and I was 1206 01:01:33,747 --> 01:01:37,907 Speaker 5: getting fatigue and tired and couldn't focus and it's getting 1207 01:01:37,907 --> 01:01:41,187 Speaker 5: pretty frustrating. And IPLE was just aging, you know, getting old, 1208 01:01:42,787 --> 01:01:44,787 Speaker 5: until I add a health check and I thought, okay, 1209 01:01:45,547 --> 01:01:48,667 Speaker 5: cheap because the needs to need to fix this. So yeah, 1210 01:01:48,667 --> 01:01:52,707 Speaker 5: it's been challenging the last two or three years. And 1211 01:01:53,547 --> 01:01:56,507 Speaker 5: I put the surgery off for two years and I thought, no, 1212 01:01:56,547 --> 01:01:58,067 Speaker 5: I have to do it because the quality of life 1213 01:01:58,187 --> 01:02:01,627 Speaker 5: was wasn't good. And now I feel great. I mean, 1214 01:02:01,667 --> 01:02:03,867 Speaker 5: I feel normal. I feel like I'm waking up in 1215 01:02:04,107 --> 01:02:09,627 Speaker 5: the morning now slept, you know, because I remember sleeping 1216 01:02:09,787 --> 01:02:12,627 Speaker 5: before the surgery for eight hours, nine hours a day 1217 01:02:12,667 --> 01:02:15,867 Speaker 5: and waking up in the morning if feeling tired. So 1218 01:02:15,907 --> 01:02:18,747 Speaker 5: I thought something's wrong here. So yeah, it's been charging 1219 01:02:18,827 --> 01:02:22,707 Speaker 5: in they and and I feel like I'll go a 1220 01:02:22,747 --> 01:02:27,187 Speaker 5: second chapter going in my my boocket right now. So 1221 01:02:27,427 --> 01:02:29,307 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to playing. I still playing on the 1222 01:02:29,387 --> 01:02:32,507 Speaker 5: Legends Tour over fifteen now. You know, I came close 1223 01:02:32,547 --> 01:02:35,427 Speaker 5: to winning last week, so you know, I was back 1224 01:02:35,467 --> 01:02:38,227 Speaker 5: to normal, you could say. So I'm pretty excited for 1225 01:02:38,267 --> 01:02:39,627 Speaker 5: the next you know, five or six. 1226 01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:42,547 Speaker 3: Years No Sarway, Michael Salwall. Look, I can't wait to 1227 01:02:42,587 --> 01:02:46,147 Speaker 3: see this doco premiering tonight on sky deare to be 1228 01:02:46,147 --> 01:02:49,267 Speaker 3: different than Michael Campbell's story mate. Thank you so much 1229 01:02:49,307 --> 01:02:52,387 Speaker 3: for your time this afternoon, and all the best for 1230 01:02:52,947 --> 01:02:55,747 Speaker 3: many many more chapters in your life to come. 1231 01:02:56,907 --> 01:02:57,107 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1232 01:02:57,147 --> 01:02:59,107 Speaker 5: Thanks, thanks, Jason. I want to say that, you know, 1233 01:02:59,267 --> 01:03:04,227 Speaker 5: thanks to Golf Warehouse and Calway Golf for sponsoring documentary. 1234 01:03:04,467 --> 01:03:06,707 Speaker 5: I'm coming back actually to New Zealand, so I'm very 1235 01:03:06,707 --> 01:03:10,627 Speaker 5: excited about I'm playing Foxy's tournament Chasing the Fox and 1236 01:03:10,707 --> 01:03:15,027 Speaker 5: Auckland on the twelfth of twelfth of December. So I'm 1237 01:03:15,027 --> 01:03:17,387 Speaker 5: looking forward to seeing all Foxy because I haven't seen 1238 01:03:17,387 --> 01:03:19,147 Speaker 5: Foxy since he won a couple of times now on 1239 01:03:19,187 --> 01:03:22,907 Speaker 5: the PGA Tour, catching up with my old sponsors Mnuka Honey, 1240 01:03:23,867 --> 01:03:27,627 Speaker 5: you know, and playing with Joe Parker I believe as 1241 01:03:27,707 --> 01:03:30,747 Speaker 5: one of the one of my partners of the Minka 1242 01:03:31,067 --> 01:03:35,507 Speaker 5: Honey Manuka Honey team. Looking forward to catching up for 1243 01:03:35,547 --> 01:03:37,787 Speaker 5: all the other celebrities I haven't seen for a long time. 1244 01:03:38,587 --> 01:03:40,267 Speaker 5: So I'm really excited to come back to New Zealand 1245 01:03:40,307 --> 01:03:44,547 Speaker 5: seen Christmas with my family. So yeah, let's do it. Yeah, 1246 01:03:44,667 --> 01:03:48,307 Speaker 5: I mean just hopefully you're I know you will enjoy that. 1247 01:03:48,347 --> 01:03:50,427 Speaker 5: The documentary, it's going to be a little bit different. 1248 01:03:50,667 --> 01:03:54,267 Speaker 5: It's going to pour a few half strings, but also 1249 01:03:55,147 --> 01:03:58,587 Speaker 5: it's gonna come across a little bit different than the 1250 01:03:58,667 --> 01:04:04,227 Speaker 5: most because it's pretty It gets down to the nitty 1251 01:04:04,227 --> 01:04:07,067 Speaker 5: gritty of how I became I hope, who I am 1252 01:04:07,227 --> 01:04:11,267 Speaker 5: as a golfer and as a person. So everyone enjoys it. 1253 01:04:11,467 --> 01:04:14,067 Speaker 4: I know we will. Great stuff. Michael, thanks again, mate, 1254 01:04:14,667 --> 01:04:16,747 Speaker 4: Yes mate, thank you, No, thank you, Michael. 1255 01:04:17,027 --> 01:04:21,187 Speaker 3: Michael Campbell there dare to be different. The Michael Campbell 1256 01:04:21,307 --> 01:04:25,227 Speaker 3: Story premieres tonight on sky Sport three at seven o'clock. 1257 01:04:25,987 --> 01:04:29,067 Speaker 3: It is a cracker. I have been very lucky to 1258 01:04:29,147 --> 01:04:32,027 Speaker 3: have been sent a bit of an advanced copy to. 1259 01:04:31,947 --> 01:04:35,147 Speaker 4: Have a look at. It is terrific. 1260 01:04:35,547 --> 01:04:38,427 Speaker 3: It is so good, and not just the footage of 1261 01:04:38,987 --> 01:04:42,667 Speaker 3: Michael Campbell winning the US Open in two thousand and 1262 01:04:42,707 --> 01:04:45,227 Speaker 3: five and then going back to relive it, but the 1263 01:04:45,307 --> 01:04:49,627 Speaker 3: stuff from his hometown Titahie Bay, just out of Pottydoer 1264 01:04:49,827 --> 01:04:55,027 Speaker 3: in Wellington's northern suburbs. It's just so good. Huge congrats 1265 01:04:55,027 --> 01:04:58,267 Speaker 3: to the team at Sports Inc. Led by Kelson Butler, 1266 01:04:58,387 --> 01:05:00,227 Speaker 3: Randall Monroe a big part of it as well. 1267 01:05:00,307 --> 01:05:00,747 Speaker 4: It is. 1268 01:05:02,587 --> 01:05:04,787 Speaker 3: I cannot say enough about it and how much you 1269 01:05:04,787 --> 01:05:06,587 Speaker 3: will enjoy it. It's also going to be on Guy 1270 01:05:06,667 --> 01:05:09,467 Speaker 3: Open later in the year, so those without access to 1271 01:05:09,627 --> 01:05:12,427 Speaker 3: skysport will have the chance to watch it on Frederwear 1272 01:05:12,467 --> 01:05:14,867 Speaker 3: as well. But yeah, tonight at seven o'clock Skysport three 1273 01:05:15,387 --> 01:05:17,867 Speaker 3: is when at premiers. It's got obviously a lot of 1274 01:05:17,867 --> 01:05:20,747 Speaker 3: Michael Campbell in it, but interviews with the likes of 1275 01:05:20,827 --> 01:05:24,427 Speaker 3: Ernie Els for Steve Hurson, Colin Montgomery, Keebi Icon SA 1276 01:05:24,507 --> 01:05:27,427 Speaker 3: Bob Charles, Ryan Foxes and at Steve Williams. Steve Williams, 1277 01:05:27,467 --> 01:05:30,587 Speaker 3: of course, was on Tiger Woods Bag the day that 1278 01:05:30,667 --> 01:05:33,627 Speaker 3: Michael Campbell won the US Open, when the two of 1279 01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:36,347 Speaker 3: them were going head to head down the final stretch 1280 01:05:36,387 --> 01:05:39,867 Speaker 3: of six or seven holes, and there's some awesome footage 1281 01:05:39,867 --> 01:05:45,707 Speaker 3: of Steve Williams congratulating Michael Campbell afterwards. It's just yes 1282 01:05:45,787 --> 01:05:48,507 Speaker 3: to say it's awesome. It's really really good. So again, 1283 01:05:48,627 --> 01:05:51,347 Speaker 3: congratulations to the team at Sports Inc. For producing it 1284 01:05:51,387 --> 01:05:54,227 Speaker 3: in a massive thanks to Michael Campbell for making himself 1285 01:05:54,227 --> 01:05:57,187 Speaker 3: available for such an extended period of time. Twenty nine 1286 01:05:57,267 --> 01:05:59,187 Speaker 3: away from two News Talks, He'd be back in a moment. 1287 01:06:00,547 --> 01:06:04,467 Speaker 1: It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason 1288 01:06:04,507 --> 01:06:08,587 Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Gunner, New Zealand's most trusted home builder 1289 01:06:08,667 --> 01:06:09,507 Speaker 1: News Talks B. 1290 01:06:10,107 --> 01:06:13,387 Speaker 3: News Talks B one thirty four. Johnny on text Pinty, 1291 01:06:13,387 --> 01:06:16,147 Speaker 3: amazing what you hear in interviews. I've been diagnosed with 1292 01:06:16,227 --> 01:06:19,947 Speaker 3: atrial fibrillation as well. Great to hear there's a way 1293 01:06:19,947 --> 01:06:22,187 Speaker 3: through a Props to Michael Campbell, Thanks Johnny and Dallas, 1294 01:06:22,187 --> 01:06:24,987 Speaker 3: says Michael Nearly gave me a heart attack that day 1295 01:06:25,427 --> 01:06:27,427 Speaker 3: that he won the stress of it all I can 1296 01:06:27,467 --> 01:06:31,627 Speaker 3: still remember. Yeah, it was it was quite something, quite something, indeed, 1297 01:06:32,147 --> 01:06:35,787 Speaker 3: James mccony before two but a milestone one hundred and 1298 01:06:35,827 --> 01:06:36,747 Speaker 3: seventy three. 1299 01:06:36,707 --> 01:06:38,187 Speaker 4: Innings in the making. 1300 01:06:38,347 --> 01:06:42,707 Speaker 3: Black Caps leg spinner Ischh Sodi has hit his maiden 1301 01:06:42,827 --> 01:06:46,547 Speaker 3: first class century, reaching three figures for Canterbury on day 1302 01:06:46,547 --> 01:06:50,267 Speaker 3: two of their plunket shield clash with Otago in Dunedin 1303 01:06:50,467 --> 01:06:53,907 Speaker 3: in the week past. Sody finished one hundred and eight 1304 01:06:53,987 --> 01:06:57,827 Speaker 3: not out in Canterbury's five hundred and one for seven declared, 1305 01:06:57,867 --> 01:07:00,307 Speaker 3: he joins us now from I think duneied nepport about 1306 01:07:00,307 --> 01:07:03,587 Speaker 3: to fly back to christ churchesch I thought you already 1307 01:07:03,667 --> 01:07:07,867 Speaker 3: had a first class century? How did this escape my attention? 1308 01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:10,947 Speaker 19: Yeah, I know that opinion has been shared by a 1309 01:07:10,987 --> 01:07:12,547 Speaker 19: lot of my peers. I think over the years, you know, 1310 01:07:12,587 --> 01:07:15,747 Speaker 19: it's been something that you know, I've been really searching 1311 01:07:15,747 --> 01:07:17,467 Speaker 19: for for a really long period of time. And that's 1312 01:07:17,467 --> 01:07:20,427 Speaker 19: why I suppose you've obviously seen the celebration. I suppose 1313 01:07:20,427 --> 01:07:22,267 Speaker 19: it was just a lot of you know, pinned up 1314 01:07:22,267 --> 01:07:24,227 Speaker 19: frustration over years and years of not getting there. So 1315 01:07:24,227 --> 01:07:26,467 Speaker 19: it's nice to be able to be able to have 1316 01:07:26,507 --> 01:07:26,787 Speaker 19: that one. 1317 01:07:26,787 --> 01:07:30,547 Speaker 3: Now, I absolutely loved the celebration. What was your highest 1318 01:07:30,587 --> 01:07:31,347 Speaker 3: score before this? 1319 01:07:32,667 --> 01:07:35,347 Speaker 19: I had like an eighty two or something, and yeah, 1320 01:07:35,347 --> 01:07:37,547 Speaker 19: it was you know, like I said, I've got to 1321 01:07:37,547 --> 01:07:39,867 Speaker 19: fifty quite a lot of times over the last well, 1322 01:07:39,987 --> 01:07:41,787 Speaker 19: you know, decade or so, and you know, there are 1323 01:07:41,787 --> 01:07:43,867 Speaker 19: a few opportunities that I lost. So it's nice to 1324 01:07:43,907 --> 01:07:45,187 Speaker 19: get over the line. And you know, it's so many 1325 01:07:45,187 --> 01:07:47,547 Speaker 19: that you can't sort of you can't take away from me. 1326 01:07:49,147 --> 01:07:52,107 Speaker 3: And it's there forever I've looked at crack infoation, it's there. 1327 01:07:52,147 --> 01:07:54,667 Speaker 3: They will never take it away. What was it like then, 1328 01:07:54,707 --> 01:07:57,587 Speaker 3: getting into the eighties, getting into the nineties, they talk 1329 01:07:57,627 --> 01:07:58,907 Speaker 3: about the nervous nineties. 1330 01:07:58,947 --> 01:08:01,347 Speaker 4: You've you would never have been there in first class cricket? 1331 01:08:01,427 --> 01:08:01,987 Speaker 4: What was that like? 1332 01:08:03,027 --> 01:08:03,147 Speaker 22: Now? 1333 01:08:03,187 --> 01:08:03,747 Speaker 5: It was pretty good. 1334 01:08:03,747 --> 01:08:05,667 Speaker 19: I Like I was betting with Sean Davy at the time, 1335 01:08:05,707 --> 01:08:08,387 Speaker 19: and he's a really nice batsman and he's you know, 1336 01:08:08,427 --> 01:08:10,067 Speaker 19: not played a heap of first class career, but always 1337 01:08:10,107 --> 01:08:12,147 Speaker 19: had a lot of potential and he came out and 1338 01:08:12,147 --> 01:08:14,107 Speaker 19: absolutely started whacking it. So it was real nice to 1339 01:08:14,267 --> 01:08:15,507 Speaker 19: sort of have some pressure. 1340 01:08:15,147 --> 01:08:16,467 Speaker 13: Taken off at the other end, and you know. 1341 01:08:16,427 --> 01:08:17,747 Speaker 19: We had to put on a good score on the 1342 01:08:17,787 --> 01:08:20,707 Speaker 19: first innings to try to set up the game really nicely, 1343 01:08:20,747 --> 01:08:23,427 Speaker 19: and so yeah, because he was betting so nicely and 1344 01:08:24,147 --> 01:08:25,867 Speaker 19: smoking it, they sort of had the field spread, which 1345 01:08:25,907 --> 01:08:26,467 Speaker 19: made it a bit. 1346 01:08:26,347 --> 01:08:28,027 Speaker 5: Easier in the eighties and nineties, So it. 1347 01:08:28,507 --> 01:08:30,307 Speaker 19: Was really down to Sean the way he played, and 1348 01:08:30,387 --> 01:08:32,267 Speaker 19: he ended up getting his made in first class hundred two. 1349 01:08:32,387 --> 01:08:34,107 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was cooled. It must have been a nice moment 1350 01:08:34,147 --> 01:08:37,707 Speaker 4: to share it together so that you get the one hundred. 1351 01:08:37,827 --> 01:08:40,467 Speaker 4: You're off. Your phone must have blown up, did it? 1352 01:08:41,227 --> 01:08:41,867 Speaker 5: Yeah? I was. 1353 01:08:42,067 --> 01:08:44,187 Speaker 19: I think the real cool thing about it was, you know, 1354 01:08:44,227 --> 01:08:46,347 Speaker 19: like there were so many people that there's a lot 1355 01:08:46,347 --> 01:08:49,107 Speaker 19: of interest in you know, more people sort of watching 1356 01:08:49,147 --> 01:08:51,947 Speaker 19: the planket chield and perhaps we thought, you know, when 1357 01:08:51,987 --> 01:08:54,187 Speaker 19: you sort of come off and get all those messages, 1358 01:08:54,187 --> 01:08:56,107 Speaker 19: really nice to receive them all. But it's all the 1359 01:08:56,347 --> 01:08:58,627 Speaker 19: sort of close mates of mine and Cricket always knew 1360 01:08:58,667 --> 01:08:59,627 Speaker 19: that it was a big goal of mine to get 1361 01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:01,627 Speaker 19: that a hundred, so it was really nice to be 1362 01:09:01,667 --> 01:09:02,547 Speaker 19: able to share that with him. 1363 01:09:02,707 --> 01:09:03,667 Speaker 4: Absolutely brilliant. 1364 01:09:03,707 --> 01:09:07,667 Speaker 3: So heading back now, I know that you're focusing on 1365 01:09:07,707 --> 01:09:09,387 Speaker 3: Plunket child with cannibury at the moment. But if you've 1366 01:09:09,387 --> 01:09:11,307 Speaker 3: got a half a nine white ball stuff after Christmas 1367 01:09:11,347 --> 01:09:13,747 Speaker 3: and into the new year, you must be starting to 1368 01:09:13,787 --> 01:09:16,707 Speaker 3: think pretty heavily about that, are you with the black Caps? 1369 01:09:17,427 --> 01:09:19,827 Speaker 19: Yeah, definitely, I think, you know, with the T twenty 1370 01:09:19,867 --> 01:09:23,387 Speaker 19: campaign starting, you know, the supers mess, I think it's 1371 01:09:23,787 --> 01:09:25,587 Speaker 19: just after Christmas and stuff. So yeah, we got two 1372 01:09:25,587 --> 01:09:28,827 Speaker 19: more plunking chill games in the meantime, and while we're 1373 01:09:28,827 --> 01:09:30,867 Speaker 19: staying really nicely focused on that, it's important, I think, 1374 01:09:30,867 --> 01:09:33,107 Speaker 19: to just keep those white ball skills shaped up because 1375 01:09:33,467 --> 01:09:35,347 Speaker 19: these days I just feel like red ball cricket and 1376 01:09:35,467 --> 01:09:38,107 Speaker 19: T twenty cricket they're just two completely different sports being 1377 01:09:38,107 --> 01:09:41,667 Speaker 19: a spin ballers. So yeah, me and Cole McConkie actually 1378 01:09:41,907 --> 01:09:43,187 Speaker 19: every now and then we'll go and have a white 1379 01:09:43,187 --> 01:09:46,067 Speaker 19: ball net just to remind ourselves of our white ball skills. 1380 01:09:46,067 --> 01:09:48,427 Speaker 19: And so that's I mean, it's really important to keep 1381 01:09:48,467 --> 01:09:49,867 Speaker 19: on top of when you're playing rebul cricket. 1382 01:09:49,867 --> 01:09:50,507 Speaker 4: I love it, mate. 1383 01:09:50,547 --> 01:09:53,267 Speaker 3: Well I'm going to change if it didn't have all 1384 01:09:53,347 --> 01:09:56,667 Speaker 3: Rounder alongside you in my contacts, if it just had 1385 01:09:56,907 --> 01:09:58,907 Speaker 3: each Sody legspin, I'm going to change it to each 1386 01:09:58,987 --> 01:10:02,147 Speaker 3: Sody all round in now first class entry. Mate, no 1387 01:10:02,187 --> 01:10:04,067 Speaker 3: one can ever take it away from you. Congratulations and 1388 01:10:04,067 --> 01:10:04,747 Speaker 3: thanks for the chat. 1389 01:10:04,827 --> 01:10:05,307 Speaker 5: Thank you brother. 1390 01:10:05,427 --> 01:10:07,107 Speaker 4: Acuse me, mate, that's. 1391 01:10:07,107 --> 01:10:08,627 Speaker 3: Eas Sody about to hop on a plane back to 1392 01:10:08,707 --> 01:10:14,347 Speaker 3: christ Church and finally the first class century achieved. If 1393 01:10:14,387 --> 01:10:16,027 Speaker 3: you get the chance to watch us, I'm sure if 1394 01:10:16,067 --> 01:10:20,547 Speaker 3: you just google each Sody century, his celebration is so good. 1395 01:10:20,747 --> 01:10:27,067 Speaker 3: You know, it just takes many forms and clear elation obviously, 1396 01:10:27,147 --> 01:10:29,987 Speaker 3: but it's a cool celebration and for one of the 1397 01:10:30,027 --> 01:10:35,227 Speaker 3: top men of first class cricket, elite cricket in our country. 1398 01:10:35,427 --> 01:10:38,787 Speaker 3: Just awesome to see each Sody do that and finally 1399 01:10:38,867 --> 01:10:40,067 Speaker 3: chalk up the three figures. 1400 01:10:40,227 --> 01:10:41,987 Speaker 4: He'll clearly bear a boo part of our white bull 1401 01:10:42,027 --> 01:10:44,187 Speaker 4: sides in the new year as well, so looking forward 1402 01:10:44,187 --> 01:10:47,227 Speaker 4: to seeing him back in the black cap as well. 1403 01:10:47,747 --> 01:10:51,067 Speaker 3: Twenty one away from two James mcconey in studio, shortly 1404 01:10:51,347 --> 01:10:54,747 Speaker 3: just updating you from the Australian PGA Championship. This is 1405 01:10:54,787 --> 01:10:57,667 Speaker 3: a Royal Queensland in Brisbane. Now, I of course did 1406 01:10:57,667 --> 01:11:01,187 Speaker 3: my son's wrong and forgot that Brisbane are three hours behind, 1407 01:11:01,187 --> 01:11:06,227 Speaker 3: not two hours behind. So Kazuma Kabori, Daniel Hilly and 1408 01:11:06,427 --> 01:11:09,107 Speaker 3: Nick Voke not yet underweight, although I think Nick Vote 1409 01:11:09,227 --> 01:11:13,387 Speaker 3: might just about have just teed off in his fourth round. 1410 01:11:13,587 --> 01:11:16,787 Speaker 3: He's ten under the card. Daniel Hillier is eleven under. 1411 01:11:17,067 --> 01:11:20,947 Speaker 3: Kazuma Kabori is twelve under. The leaders are at thirteen under. 1412 01:11:21,067 --> 01:11:24,907 Speaker 3: So those three Kiwis are within striking distance. So they'll 1413 01:11:24,907 --> 01:11:27,707 Speaker 3: all be underway if I have done my sums correctly, 1414 01:11:27,747 --> 01:11:30,787 Speaker 3: and I think I have. They'll bede in the next 1415 01:11:30,827 --> 01:11:33,027 Speaker 3: twenty minutes or so. Each of them will keep eyes 1416 01:11:33,067 --> 01:11:36,387 Speaker 3: on their respective rounds across the next little while as 1417 01:11:36,427 --> 01:11:39,467 Speaker 3: they as they mount their assault on the top of 1418 01:11:39,507 --> 01:11:42,387 Speaker 3: the leaderboard. Couple of other kiwis still there. Josh Gary 1419 01:11:42,427 --> 01:11:44,627 Speaker 3: is two under through nine holes today. He's seven under 1420 01:11:44,667 --> 01:11:47,747 Speaker 3: for the tournament, tie for thirtieth, and Ryan Fox is 1421 01:11:47,747 --> 01:11:50,907 Speaker 3: into the final few holes of his fourth round one 1422 01:11:50,987 --> 01:11:53,587 Speaker 3: under through fourteen, four under for the tournament that has 1423 01:11:53,667 --> 01:11:56,667 Speaker 3: him in a tie for fifty second, twenty to two 1424 01:11:56,707 --> 01:11:58,907 Speaker 3: back in a sect with James mcconey in his regular 1425 01:11:58,947 --> 01:12:00,627 Speaker 3: Sunday slot the. 1426 01:12:00,547 --> 01:12:04,107 Speaker 1: Tough Questions Off the Turf weekends for It with Jason 1427 01:12:04,147 --> 01:12:05,107 Speaker 1: Kine and GJ. 1428 01:12:05,307 --> 01:12:08,387 Speaker 2: Gunderholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder. 1429 01:12:10,307 --> 01:12:13,147 Speaker 3: Seventeen away from two Sunday afternoons, we have the pleasure 1430 01:12:13,187 --> 01:12:16,267 Speaker 3: of the company of James mccony in studio this afternoon. 1431 01:12:16,307 --> 01:12:19,587 Speaker 4: Hello mate, get a poney. How are you mate? Very good, 1432 01:12:19,667 --> 01:12:22,347 Speaker 4: great to see you're great to hear you. You've got 1433 01:12:22,387 --> 01:12:25,027 Speaker 4: cricket on your mind this afternoon. 1434 01:12:24,827 --> 01:12:25,427 Speaker 5: Yes, I do. 1435 01:12:25,627 --> 01:12:28,627 Speaker 23: There is something rotten in the state of Denmark, poney, 1436 01:12:28,747 --> 01:12:31,707 Speaker 23: And by Denmark I mean the wider New Zealand cricket community. 1437 01:12:32,507 --> 01:12:34,507 Speaker 23: And it's tough to sort of make this interesting to 1438 01:12:34,547 --> 01:12:37,027 Speaker 23: the average punter. So everyone bear with me, because we're 1439 01:12:37,067 --> 01:12:40,707 Speaker 23: talking about that new T twenty competition that has been 1440 01:12:40,747 --> 01:12:44,747 Speaker 23: backed by Indian money and several former Black Caps Stephen Fleming, 1441 01:12:44,787 --> 01:12:49,467 Speaker 23: Jeff Allott, Daniel Vittori, and it's created a war at 1442 01:12:49,467 --> 01:12:51,867 Speaker 23: New Zealand cricket. Are you aware of this, pony. 1443 01:12:51,787 --> 01:12:52,627 Speaker 4: Very aware of it? Yes? 1444 01:12:52,787 --> 01:12:56,547 Speaker 3: Very Awever, I mean we're following it closely from both sides. 1445 01:12:56,787 --> 01:12:59,627 Speaker 3: Are there is a lot of dialogue, a lot of 1446 01:13:00,227 --> 01:13:03,907 Speaker 3: conversation about this. What are you taking from it? What's 1447 01:13:03,947 --> 01:13:05,907 Speaker 3: front of mind when you're thinking about it at the moment. 1448 01:13:06,347 --> 01:13:09,427 Speaker 23: Well, to me it seems a little bit fishy. But 1449 01:13:09,667 --> 01:13:12,067 Speaker 23: when New Zealand Cricket learned of the plans in September. 1450 01:13:12,107 --> 01:13:16,227 Speaker 23: They asked consultants Deloitte to analyze the four potential options 1451 01:13:16,227 --> 01:13:18,507 Speaker 23: for the future of twenty twenty cricket in New Zealand. 1452 01:13:18,587 --> 01:13:21,067 Speaker 23: So one was the new Consortium. There was a big 1453 01:13:21,107 --> 01:13:24,587 Speaker 23: bash theory, there was a kind of combo of other 1454 01:13:24,667 --> 01:13:27,667 Speaker 23: things and maybe just the status quo stay the same. 1455 01:13:28,187 --> 01:13:31,387 Speaker 23: But the Consortium didn't like that and they appeared to 1456 01:13:31,427 --> 01:13:33,347 Speaker 23: have thrown their toys, and now they're trying to get 1457 01:13:33,467 --> 01:13:37,027 Speaker 23: rid of Scott Ween, the CEO of New Zealand Cricket, 1458 01:13:37,147 --> 01:13:39,427 Speaker 23: who by all accounts has done a pretty good job 1459 01:13:40,427 --> 01:13:44,907 Speaker 23: turned a loss into a profit in the past year. 1460 01:13:45,347 --> 01:13:47,267 Speaker 23: I think even was given a pay rise for doing 1461 01:13:47,307 --> 01:13:50,147 Speaker 23: such a good job, and now a few months later 1462 01:13:50,227 --> 01:13:52,587 Speaker 23: they're trying to oust them. It just doesn't add up 1463 01:13:52,627 --> 01:13:54,387 Speaker 23: to me, Piney, and that's why I sort of think 1464 01:13:54,787 --> 01:13:57,947 Speaker 23: what's going on there? How is how's it got to this? 1465 01:13:58,227 --> 01:14:02,307 Speaker 23: And I know that the consortium say, I've got the 1466 01:14:02,347 --> 01:14:06,947 Speaker 23: backing of the six major associations, so we're talking about districts, 1467 01:14:06,947 --> 01:14:11,267 Speaker 23: central districts, et cetera, et cetera. And they spoke to 1468 01:14:11,307 --> 01:14:15,347 Speaker 23: those associations behind New Zealand Crickets back. But I've heard 1469 01:14:15,387 --> 01:14:18,747 Speaker 23: that northern districts are actually saying pump the brakes here. 1470 01:14:19,027 --> 01:14:22,947 Speaker 23: We want to hear all the proposals and just see 1471 01:14:22,987 --> 01:14:27,387 Speaker 23: where it lands. But somehow WHENIX heads on the block. 1472 01:14:27,987 --> 01:14:32,147 Speaker 4: Well, we had Don mckinnonon last week. He is sort 1473 01:14:32,187 --> 01:14:36,187 Speaker 4: of heading up the establishing Committee or the Investigative Committee 1474 01:14:36,227 --> 01:14:38,187 Speaker 4: of of NZ twenty of you like. So we spoke 1475 01:14:38,227 --> 01:14:40,587 Speaker 4: to him last week on the show and he said, well, yes, 1476 01:14:40,627 --> 01:14:43,267 Speaker 4: we know, we're just one of four options that New 1477 01:14:43,347 --> 01:14:46,227 Speaker 4: Zealand Cricket are considering, and he said, we think that's 1478 01:14:46,307 --> 01:14:48,747 Speaker 4: good governance that they are looking at all the options. 1479 01:14:48,787 --> 01:14:49,387 Speaker 4: And he's right. 1480 01:14:49,667 --> 01:14:52,147 Speaker 3: Obviously, if you have her above something, you don't just 1481 01:14:52,147 --> 01:14:54,787 Speaker 3: go for the bright shiny option every time you consider 1482 01:14:55,187 --> 01:14:56,107 Speaker 3: all of the options. 1483 01:14:56,107 --> 01:14:57,427 Speaker 4: So I'm a little bit like you. 1484 01:14:57,427 --> 01:14:59,867 Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure how it's got to where it's 1485 01:14:59,867 --> 01:15:02,187 Speaker 3: got to. But if I've learned anything about sport and 1486 01:15:02,267 --> 01:15:06,267 Speaker 3: professional sport in my time covering it, it's that off 1487 01:15:07,227 --> 01:15:12,467 Speaker 3: best practice can be jettisoned by differences in personality. I'm 1488 01:15:12,467 --> 01:15:14,667 Speaker 3: not sure if that's what's happened here, but I get 1489 01:15:14,707 --> 01:15:16,387 Speaker 3: the feeling it may be playing a part. 1490 01:15:16,587 --> 01:15:18,987 Speaker 23: Yeah, the issue is, I mean, this is a story 1491 01:15:18,987 --> 01:15:21,867 Speaker 23: about boardroom politics and some would say bored in politics, 1492 01:15:21,867 --> 01:15:24,707 Speaker 23: but hey, we're going to make it interesting by saying that. 1493 01:15:24,787 --> 01:15:26,827 Speaker 23: I think when Don McKinnon came on and we were 1494 01:15:26,867 --> 01:15:30,827 Speaker 23: talking about not the politician, it's this is the sports administrator. 1495 01:15:31,307 --> 01:15:34,107 Speaker 23: I mean, I guess he was probably trying to say 1496 01:15:34,147 --> 01:15:36,707 Speaker 23: the right things, but I hear that you know that 1497 01:15:36,747 --> 01:15:40,027 Speaker 23: this is the fact that Weenix Head is on the 1498 01:15:40,107 --> 01:15:45,827 Speaker 23: chopping block is because that the consortium has backing inside 1499 01:15:45,867 --> 01:15:49,627 Speaker 23: the NZ Cricket boardroom. So and that the irony is, 1500 01:15:50,547 --> 01:15:54,187 Speaker 23: you know, Dom McKinnon is he's the chair of New 1501 01:15:54,307 --> 01:15:59,947 Speaker 23: Zealand's Sport Integrity Commission. So I was going, well, where's 1502 01:15:59,947 --> 01:16:03,667 Speaker 23: the integrity and going behind New Zealand Crickets back courting, 1503 01:16:03,707 --> 01:16:06,987 Speaker 23: you know, major associations, then ambushing news Ellen Cricket with 1504 01:16:07,067 --> 01:16:10,107 Speaker 23: a proposal that either has to be accepted or the 1505 01:16:10,147 --> 01:16:12,947 Speaker 23: CEO loses his job. There's not much integrity there in 1506 01:16:12,987 --> 01:16:16,587 Speaker 23: my opinion. But the thing is, even Don might have 1507 01:16:16,627 --> 01:16:20,627 Speaker 23: to investigate himself pony, and even though that seems like 1508 01:16:20,667 --> 01:16:24,387 Speaker 23: a joke, who can New Zealand Cricket complain to when 1509 01:16:24,787 --> 01:16:27,307 Speaker 23: the Integrity Commission is the guy fronting the new private 1510 01:16:27,387 --> 01:16:29,667 Speaker 23: league that's sitting in front of you giving you an 1511 01:16:29,747 --> 01:16:31,307 Speaker 23: ultimatum if. 1512 01:16:31,227 --> 01:16:33,387 Speaker 3: We zoom out from it just for a sec. Do 1513 01:16:33,427 --> 01:16:36,427 Speaker 3: you what is your view on the current domestic T 1514 01:16:36,427 --> 01:16:41,027 Speaker 3: twenty competition? Do you agree that it needs a look 1515 01:16:41,067 --> 01:16:43,387 Speaker 3: at for one of these, you know, whatever the proposal 1516 01:16:43,387 --> 01:16:46,467 Speaker 3: that whichever proposal they land on, do you agree that 1517 01:16:46,467 --> 01:16:49,107 Speaker 3: that it needs to be changed, that it is not 1518 01:16:49,107 --> 01:16:51,867 Speaker 3: not currently doing the job, that it's that it's there. 1519 01:16:51,707 --> 01:16:54,107 Speaker 23: For Yeah, I think that there needs to be a 1520 01:16:54,147 --> 01:16:56,347 Speaker 23: little bit of juging up. And it's quite tricky because 1521 01:16:56,347 --> 01:16:59,347 Speaker 23: remember the Super Smash runs you know, parallel with New 1522 01:16:59,427 --> 01:17:02,067 Speaker 23: Zealand cricket games, so you often don't have the best 1523 01:17:02,067 --> 01:17:04,347 Speaker 23: players available and they might not be available even with 1524 01:17:04,387 --> 01:17:07,067 Speaker 23: the backing of the Indian and v Ess, you know. 1525 01:17:07,187 --> 01:17:12,027 Speaker 23: But I think the idea that when and the NZI 1526 01:17:12,067 --> 01:17:14,467 Speaker 23: Cricket were in talks with the Big Bash, which is 1527 01:17:14,507 --> 01:17:16,347 Speaker 23: a huge league, and if they could get a team 1528 01:17:16,467 --> 01:17:19,227 Speaker 23: or teams into the Big Bash like the Warriors in 1529 01:17:19,267 --> 01:17:22,107 Speaker 23: the NRL or you know the Wellington Phoenix and Aukland 1530 01:17:22,107 --> 01:17:24,067 Speaker 23: their c in the A league, and that the players 1531 01:17:24,067 --> 01:17:28,227 Speaker 23: can become domestic players. They're all available, they don't count 1532 01:17:28,427 --> 01:17:32,467 Speaker 23: for your overseas player quota. Then it's actually a pretty 1533 01:17:32,507 --> 01:17:35,307 Speaker 23: cool deal if they can get that through. But then 1534 01:17:35,387 --> 01:17:38,067 Speaker 23: some maybe that's the big battle because the major associations 1535 01:17:38,107 --> 01:17:41,267 Speaker 23: feel that they'll be left behind. But currently the Super 1536 01:17:41,267 --> 01:17:45,787 Speaker 23: Smash has had years of not having the best players playing, 1537 01:17:45,947 --> 01:17:49,187 Speaker 23: but they've also provided a lot of stars. If you 1538 01:17:49,227 --> 01:17:52,467 Speaker 23: look at their you know that the best players or 1539 01:17:52,467 --> 01:17:54,787 Speaker 23: the leader charts of every single Super Smash. You know, 1540 01:17:54,867 --> 01:17:57,987 Speaker 23: Devin Conway became a black cap, same with Glenn Phillips, 1541 01:17:57,987 --> 01:18:01,347 Speaker 23: Mark Chapman. It is still a really good feeder league. 1542 01:18:01,467 --> 01:18:04,427 Speaker 23: But look, they need to do something there. And that's 1543 01:18:04,467 --> 01:18:06,507 Speaker 23: why I sort of feel like, let's just see what 1544 01:18:06,547 --> 01:18:09,547 Speaker 23: happens with this with the findings of Deloitte, and let 1545 01:18:10,187 --> 01:18:12,547 Speaker 23: let a CEO who's actually got some vision to sort 1546 01:18:12,547 --> 01:18:15,707 Speaker 23: of make a call. But if it doesn't fall your way, 1547 01:18:15,747 --> 01:18:17,787 Speaker 23: I don't I don't think it's worth throwing your toys 1548 01:18:17,787 --> 01:18:20,707 Speaker 23: that like the Consortium have. And what worries me Piney 1549 01:18:20,747 --> 01:18:23,587 Speaker 23: is you know, I've watched the reporting and I wonder 1550 01:18:23,627 --> 01:18:26,947 Speaker 23: who are the independent cricket journalists anymore. It's quite tricky 1551 01:18:26,987 --> 01:18:30,147 Speaker 23: because you've got Heath Mills from the Players Association, who's 1552 01:18:30,267 --> 01:18:32,787 Speaker 23: behind this. Well, he's drinking buddies with a lot of 1553 01:18:32,787 --> 01:18:35,467 Speaker 23: cricket journalists who we know, and so I don't know 1554 01:18:35,507 --> 01:18:38,867 Speaker 23: that probably either behind it or staying quiet on it. 1555 01:18:39,147 --> 01:18:42,267 Speaker 23: So you've got that kind of faction as well. And 1556 01:18:42,307 --> 01:18:45,387 Speaker 23: then you've got David Hallman, who is used to be 1557 01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:48,187 Speaker 23: the boss of WADA and he's involved in Wellington cricket. 1558 01:18:48,227 --> 01:18:52,027 Speaker 23: Now you know, the world antidoping guy. He's pushing the barrow. 1559 01:18:52,067 --> 01:18:54,627 Speaker 23: And then you've got Victorian Fleming. And if I was 1560 01:18:54,827 --> 01:18:56,787 Speaker 23: for Victoria or Fleming, I wouldn't want a bar of 1561 01:18:56,827 --> 01:18:59,467 Speaker 23: this that sort of known for their leadership and the 1562 01:18:59,547 --> 01:19:02,227 Speaker 23: Consortium so far I think has shown quite the opposite. 1563 01:19:02,347 --> 01:19:04,747 Speaker 23: And you know their bank balance might benefit, but I 1564 01:19:04,747 --> 01:19:06,707 Speaker 23: think their mana will diminish. 1565 01:19:07,307 --> 01:19:09,467 Speaker 4: Very interesting thoughts, James, Very interesting. 1566 01:19:09,507 --> 01:19:12,067 Speaker 23: I mean has to be said news talks, there be 1567 01:19:12,227 --> 01:19:15,227 Speaker 23: you guys, there's going to be investigation Jiff two V. 1568 01:19:16,027 --> 01:19:18,427 Speaker 23: I mean if Mike Costking, I mean hand in your 1569 01:19:18,467 --> 01:19:21,147 Speaker 23: journalism card, if he doesn't dig deeper, Because you can 1570 01:19:21,147 --> 01:19:24,067 Speaker 23: get blinded by people with lots of money and they 1571 01:19:24,107 --> 01:19:27,347 Speaker 23: will get paid, but the only person if we get 1572 01:19:27,347 --> 01:19:29,467 Speaker 23: into the Big Bash or whatever. It's just you know, 1573 01:19:29,747 --> 01:19:32,787 Speaker 23: there's no kickbacks or handouts or any kind of stuff. 1574 01:19:32,787 --> 01:19:34,907 Speaker 23: It's just, you know, our best players get to play 1575 01:19:34,907 --> 01:19:37,907 Speaker 23: in the Big Bash. So I don't know, it just 1576 01:19:38,067 --> 01:19:41,347 Speaker 23: seems weird just seeing that suddenly this CEO has done 1577 01:19:41,387 --> 01:19:43,507 Speaker 23: a pretty good job, has got his head on the 1578 01:19:43,587 --> 01:19:47,067 Speaker 23: chopping block. That doesn't really add up. It's very very fishy, pony. 1579 01:19:47,547 --> 01:19:50,267 Speaker 3: Interesting to hear an alternative view, because you're about the 1580 01:19:50,267 --> 01:19:53,067 Speaker 3: first one I've heard to have voiced an alternative view 1581 01:19:53,267 --> 01:19:55,787 Speaker 3: on this. So yeah, so I appreciate you doing so. 1582 01:19:56,107 --> 01:19:59,227 Speaker 3: Just before you go, I was a Nelson on Friday night, Yes, 1583 01:19:59,667 --> 01:20:02,387 Speaker 3: lucky enough to get invited along to the Nelson Sports Awards, 1584 01:20:03,027 --> 01:20:06,427 Speaker 3: administered by Sport Tasmin now Sport Tasman. Of course the 1585 01:20:06,507 --> 01:20:08,787 Speaker 3: name would suggest. Look after the Top of the South 1586 01:20:09,347 --> 01:20:13,507 Speaker 3: and the reviews, I was hearing about your MC job 1587 01:20:14,027 --> 01:20:18,387 Speaker 3: at the Mulbra Sports Awards the previous week. Goodness, gracious me, 1588 01:20:18,467 --> 01:20:21,947 Speaker 3: I'm surprised you is aren't still burning with the praise 1589 01:20:22,107 --> 01:20:24,507 Speaker 3: that was coming your way. The way that you the 1590 01:20:24,547 --> 01:20:28,467 Speaker 3: way that you apparently just just mesmerized the entire room 1591 01:20:28,547 --> 01:20:29,427 Speaker 3: there and blend them. 1592 01:20:29,787 --> 01:20:32,027 Speaker 23: Jesus was a slow start, pony. You know when you 1593 01:20:32,467 --> 01:20:34,707 Speaker 23: try to crack a few jokes and no one laughs 1594 01:20:34,747 --> 01:20:37,307 Speaker 23: and you get the sweats, you know, I know what 1595 01:20:37,347 --> 01:20:40,667 Speaker 23: that's like. Yeah, it took a lot of work to 1596 01:20:40,707 --> 01:20:43,267 Speaker 23: bring them around. But in the end, we were you know, 1597 01:20:43,347 --> 01:20:45,147 Speaker 23: we were we were lucky because I think there were 1598 01:20:45,187 --> 01:20:47,987 Speaker 23: some interesting characters who came up, not least been O'Keefe 1599 01:20:48,027 --> 01:20:53,907 Speaker 23: and and Tamathy Tavetamanawa's first coach, Bill Bill Matthews. So 1600 01:20:54,187 --> 01:20:55,667 Speaker 23: we were, we were lucky. But I heard you did 1601 01:20:55,667 --> 01:20:58,187 Speaker 23: the same at the Nelson Sports Awards, mate, So maybe 1602 01:20:58,227 --> 01:20:59,787 Speaker 23: we need to do a swap and then do a 1603 01:20:59,907 --> 01:21:03,347 Speaker 23: and get Deloitte and to do an official study of 1604 01:21:03,387 --> 01:21:07,387 Speaker 23: who actually mc these these tans and sports awards better. 1605 01:21:08,027 --> 01:21:09,387 Speaker 3: I can tell well, I can tell you what the 1606 01:21:09,427 --> 01:21:11,587 Speaker 3: findings will be. Well, I've got a gut feel what 1607 01:21:11,707 --> 01:21:13,627 Speaker 3: the findings will be. But yeah, maybe we need to 1608 01:21:14,147 --> 01:21:15,947 Speaker 3: need to employ them. Great to Jed as always, mate, 1609 01:21:15,947 --> 01:21:17,827 Speaker 3: thanks for stopping into the studio. Have an excellent rest 1610 01:21:17,827 --> 01:21:20,467 Speaker 3: of your weekend. AUKLANDLEFC this afternoon, are you confident that 1611 01:21:20,507 --> 01:21:22,427 Speaker 3: they can get the three points against Newcastle. 1612 01:21:23,067 --> 01:21:25,307 Speaker 23: Yes i am, but I'm more excited that the next 1613 01:21:25,387 --> 01:21:27,827 Speaker 23: got up yesterday, so we need to sort of keep 1614 01:21:27,867 --> 01:21:29,867 Speaker 23: pumping them and get them back on the charts. 1615 01:21:29,907 --> 01:21:30,107 Speaker 8: You know. 1616 01:21:30,747 --> 01:21:34,067 Speaker 3: Darby next week is Arby next week, so yeah, yeah, 1617 01:21:34,067 --> 01:21:36,307 Speaker 3: they springboard themselves on. Great to see your mate. We 1618 01:21:36,707 --> 01:21:38,867 Speaker 3: look forward to catching up again next weekend. James mccaroney. 1619 01:21:38,947 --> 01:21:40,707 Speaker 3: He's been part of our see big part of our 1620 01:21:40,747 --> 01:21:43,467 Speaker 3: Sunday afternoons seven and a half away from two. 1621 01:21:44,187 --> 01:21:45,427 Speaker 2: When it's down to the line. 1622 01:21:45,667 --> 01:21:50,707 Speaker 1: You made a call on eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hine. 1623 01:21:50,907 --> 01:21:51,987 Speaker 2: News Talks EVY. 1624 01:21:52,387 --> 01:21:53,267 Speaker 4: Coming up four to two. 1625 01:21:53,307 --> 01:21:57,987 Speaker 3: After two, we'll review the Phoenixes win yesterday in Wellington 1626 01:21:58,067 --> 01:22:02,787 Speaker 3: and preview Auckland FC against Newcastle with former international goalkeeper 1627 01:22:02,907 --> 01:22:05,027 Speaker 3: and now football analyst Jacob Spoonley. 1628 01:22:05,387 --> 01:22:05,907 Speaker 4: He's with us. 1629 01:22:05,947 --> 01:22:07,987 Speaker 3: After two we'll get insother the Tall Blacks camp as well. 1630 01:22:08,027 --> 01:22:10,387 Speaker 3: They were narrow losers on Friday night in Hobart to 1631 01:22:10,427 --> 01:22:13,867 Speaker 3: the Boomers of Australia. They play again in Wellington tomorrow 1632 01:22:13,907 --> 01:22:17,227 Speaker 3: night and we go Stateside as well for a rap 1633 01:22:17,267 --> 01:22:20,707 Speaker 3: of US sport with our expert Leon Busby. Nick Vok 1634 01:22:20,787 --> 01:22:23,907 Speaker 3: has already picked up a stroke in his fourth round. 1635 01:22:23,947 --> 01:22:27,147 Speaker 3: Early in his fourth round at the PGA Championship in Brisbane, 1636 01:22:27,267 --> 01:22:29,867 Speaker 3: he is now up to eleven under for the tournament. 1637 01:22:29,947 --> 01:22:32,867 Speaker 3: That's level with Daniel Hillier, who has part his first 1638 01:22:32,907 --> 01:22:37,027 Speaker 3: hole today to stay at eleven under. Kazuma Kabori hasn't 1639 01:22:37,107 --> 01:22:39,587 Speaker 3: yet registered his first hole. From what I can see 1640 01:22:39,587 --> 01:22:41,867 Speaker 3: on the scorecard here, he is at twelve under. The 1641 01:22:41,947 --> 01:22:43,787 Speaker 3: leaders are at thirteen under. This is going to be 1642 01:22:44,147 --> 01:22:47,947 Speaker 3: a really exciting final round for the kiwi's involved at 1643 01:22:47,987 --> 01:22:51,347 Speaker 3: the PGA Championship. We will well and truly keep our 1644 01:22:51,387 --> 01:22:54,827 Speaker 3: eyes on that for you. Hilly, Voke and Kibori all 1645 01:22:54,907 --> 01:22:59,867 Speaker 3: in contention to win in Brisbane. This afternoon News Next. 1646 01:22:59,907 --> 01:23:02,867 Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on 1647 01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:04,347 Speaker 1: and afterfields. 1648 01:23:04,867 --> 01:23:08,227 Speaker 2: He's all on Wi James four with Jason Vade on 1649 01:23:08,387 --> 01:23:11,227 Speaker 2: your home of Sports US Talk. 1650 01:23:12,547 --> 01:23:13,947 Speaker 4: Hello there, seven past two. 1651 01:23:13,987 --> 01:23:16,267 Speaker 3: I'm Jason Pine. This is Weekend Sport. Any McDonald is 1652 01:23:16,307 --> 01:23:18,747 Speaker 3: producing the show. Were hit till three when Tim Beveridge 1653 01:23:18,787 --> 01:23:21,667 Speaker 3: takes over for the Weekend Collector. Before we get there, 1654 01:23:21,707 --> 01:23:23,547 Speaker 3: there's a whole heap of stuff I want to cover off. 1655 01:23:23,947 --> 01:23:27,667 Speaker 3: You heard Alice Robinson and the news, dominating her competition 1656 01:23:27,747 --> 01:23:31,027 Speaker 3: and winning the Women's Giant Slalom World Cup events in Colorado. 1657 01:23:31,387 --> 01:23:33,307 Speaker 3: I want to hear a bit more from Alis Robinson, 1658 01:23:33,827 --> 01:23:38,067 Speaker 3: want to get to Cutter for the Cutter Formula one 1659 01:23:38,067 --> 01:23:43,867 Speaker 3: Grand Prix, Lium Lawson's thoughts after qualifying sw GP final 1660 01:23:43,867 --> 01:23:48,587 Speaker 3: and Abu Dhabi. Peter Berling on that Tall Blacks now. 1661 01:23:48,587 --> 01:23:50,987 Speaker 3: The Tall Blacks are coming to Wellington for tomorrow night's 1662 01:23:51,027 --> 01:23:56,147 Speaker 3: second Test against the Australian Boomers. They were narrowly defeated 1663 01:23:56,187 --> 01:23:58,827 Speaker 3: on Friday night in Hobart. By the sounds of it, 1664 01:23:58,867 --> 01:24:01,267 Speaker 3: they've had some travel issues. They're not the only ones, 1665 01:24:01,507 --> 01:24:04,267 Speaker 3: as you've probably picked up over the weekend. There's been 1666 01:24:04,267 --> 01:24:11,547 Speaker 3: a bit of bit a scheduling carnage around flights across 1667 01:24:11,587 --> 01:24:14,627 Speaker 3: the Tasman and domestically as well. We will attempt to 1668 01:24:14,667 --> 01:24:16,787 Speaker 3: get you inside the Tall Blacks camp, but even if 1669 01:24:16,827 --> 01:24:19,747 Speaker 3: we can't, we'll bring you some basketball this hour. Leon 1670 01:24:19,827 --> 01:24:24,707 Speaker 3: Busby US sports expert also and before three and very 1671 01:24:24,747 --> 01:24:27,947 Speaker 3: shortly want to talk some football as well with Jacob 1672 01:24:27,987 --> 01:24:30,787 Speaker 3: Spoonley the Phoenix winning yesterday. Can Auckland FC make it 1673 01:24:30,827 --> 01:24:32,627 Speaker 3: two from two for the New Zealand A league clubs 1674 01:24:32,987 --> 01:24:35,307 Speaker 3: this afternoon. They kick off in under an hour go 1675 01:24:35,387 --> 01:24:39,547 Speaker 3: met the Austadium, Auckland FC against the Newcastle Jets. All 1676 01:24:39,587 --> 01:24:43,627 Speaker 3: of that to come we can squeeze in always your calls, 1677 01:24:43,907 --> 01:24:46,147 Speaker 3: your correspondents, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty a 1678 01:24:46,147 --> 01:24:48,627 Speaker 3: free corp nine two ninety two if you wish to 1679 01:24:48,747 --> 01:24:51,587 Speaker 3: correspond with us by text, and also, of course we 1680 01:24:51,667 --> 01:24:54,067 Speaker 3: will keep you up to date with the BMW Australian 1681 01:24:54,107 --> 01:25:00,187 Speaker 3: PGA Championship, Kibori, Hillia and voke all there or thereabouts. 1682 01:25:00,467 --> 01:25:02,907 Speaker 3: I do note though, that Daniel Hillier has dropped a 1683 01:25:03,027 --> 01:25:06,027 Speaker 3: shot to move back to ten under Nick vok is 1684 01:25:06,107 --> 01:25:09,547 Speaker 3: el eleven under Kazuma Kabori has parted his first hole. 1685 01:25:09,867 --> 01:25:11,867 Speaker 3: He is twelve under. Then it is now a four 1686 01:25:11,907 --> 01:25:14,827 Speaker 3: way tipe of the lead at thirteen. A very tight 1687 01:25:14,907 --> 01:25:19,227 Speaker 3: leaderboard and an exciting conclusion coming to the Australian PGR 1688 01:25:19,347 --> 01:25:23,187 Speaker 3: Championship at the Royal Queensland Golf Course in Brisbane. But 1689 01:25:23,307 --> 01:25:26,147 Speaker 3: as we tick towards nine past two, as we always 1690 01:25:26,147 --> 01:25:29,827 Speaker 3: do around about this time on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, 1691 01:25:29,827 --> 01:25:31,947 Speaker 3: it's time to get you across some of the things 1692 01:25:31,987 --> 01:25:35,307 Speaker 3: you may have missed over the last little while in 1693 01:25:35,507 --> 01:25:39,547 Speaker 3: case you missed at starting with a pole position, turning 1694 01:25:39,587 --> 01:25:43,627 Speaker 3: into a sprint race winning cutter for Oscar Piastree. 1695 01:25:44,107 --> 01:25:46,867 Speaker 24: Pastree now to the lane for a hattrick of victories 1696 01:25:46,947 --> 01:25:49,827 Speaker 24: is owd It's kata and a third winner the sprints 1697 01:25:49,987 --> 01:25:53,867 Speaker 24: for Oscar ps three, the championship leader for fifteen rounds. 1698 01:25:53,907 --> 01:25:57,947 Speaker 24: The Championship challenger now takes maximum points in the sprints. 1699 01:25:58,027 --> 01:25:59,787 Speaker 4: So that was the sprints and then. 1700 01:25:59,827 --> 01:26:02,827 Speaker 24: He then pantses his teammate makes his way around the 1701 01:26:02,827 --> 01:26:05,827 Speaker 24: final quarter is it poll for Piastree and is tool 1702 01:26:05,907 --> 01:26:09,427 Speaker 24: for pair three Oscar Piasty by a tenth of a second. 1703 01:26:09,867 --> 01:26:11,867 Speaker 24: Keep this championship challenge going. 1704 01:26:12,107 --> 01:26:15,707 Speaker 3: He does back in pole position for the Grand Prix 1705 01:26:15,907 --> 01:26:18,627 Speaker 3: feature race and cut up and putting the heat on 1706 01:26:18,667 --> 01:26:22,507 Speaker 3: his teammate Lando Norris to Football's Premier League Manchester City 1707 01:26:22,587 --> 01:26:24,387 Speaker 3: living at Lake to beat Leeds United. 1708 01:26:26,427 --> 01:26:31,787 Speaker 4: Cashie from sol So and he thanks her for this. 1709 01:26:33,387 --> 01:26:35,707 Speaker 2: It's a row of relief at the it he. 1710 01:26:35,787 --> 01:26:39,387 Speaker 23: Hat and phil food and he started the scoring a 1711 01:26:39,467 --> 01:26:39,827 Speaker 23: minute in. 1712 01:26:40,627 --> 01:26:42,667 Speaker 4: Might just have settled it and stop. 1713 01:26:42,467 --> 01:26:45,307 Speaker 3: Its time three to the final Scoreter City there the 1714 01:26:45,347 --> 01:26:49,107 Speaker 3: World seven Series is underway. The All Black sevens will 1715 01:26:49,107 --> 01:26:53,507 Speaker 3: face Fiji in their semi final after an undefeated first 1716 01:26:53,587 --> 01:26:55,387 Speaker 3: day in Dubai and now. 1717 01:26:55,387 --> 01:26:57,587 Speaker 24: Australia have to go long but him has to go, 1718 01:26:58,107 --> 01:27:01,307 Speaker 24: doesn't himself, for he's long but a big rifle. The 1719 01:27:01,467 --> 01:27:04,867 Speaker 24: Ben told him he's got a stress to the ground. 1720 01:27:04,987 --> 01:27:09,507 Speaker 2: Hilder doesn't know. Is he a little killy la sung up? 1721 01:27:10,067 --> 01:27:12,787 Speaker 5: There is no try has. 1722 01:27:12,787 --> 01:27:17,147 Speaker 25: Held up Ben Dalton some way somehow and New Zealand 1723 01:27:17,187 --> 01:27:18,067 Speaker 25: get away with one. 1724 01:27:18,507 --> 01:27:21,627 Speaker 4: They have and will, as I say, face fig in 1725 01:27:21,707 --> 01:27:22,467 Speaker 4: the semi finals. 1726 01:27:22,507 --> 01:27:26,147 Speaker 3: That game is tonight at eleven twenty eight pm for 1727 01:27:26,267 --> 01:27:28,987 Speaker 3: those interested in staying up for at the Blackfern Sevens 1728 01:27:29,427 --> 01:27:33,307 Speaker 3: will face Japan and their semi Despite a shock loss. 1729 01:27:33,627 --> 01:27:36,667 Speaker 20: A try wins it for the Black Ferns, his Sorenson McGee. 1730 01:27:37,027 --> 01:27:39,907 Speaker 20: She buys a bit of time that's gone forward and 1731 01:27:40,027 --> 01:27:42,787 Speaker 20: they may well survive here the USA they do. 1732 01:27:43,467 --> 01:27:43,827 Speaker 17: They do. 1733 01:27:45,627 --> 01:27:49,827 Speaker 20: Celebration time for the USA. They have snapped a four 1734 01:27:49,907 --> 01:27:53,907 Speaker 20: seen game losing streak against New Zealand and the Black. 1735 01:27:53,667 --> 01:27:56,147 Speaker 3: Ferns can't quite believe it. Yeah, but they went through 1736 01:27:56,227 --> 01:27:59,267 Speaker 3: to the semi's okay. They play Japan at twelve minutes 1737 01:27:59,347 --> 01:28:04,387 Speaker 3: past ten tonight and another dark day for Welsh rugby, 1738 01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:09,747 Speaker 3: a record at seven three nil defeat at home at 1739 01:28:09,787 --> 01:28:11,427 Speaker 3: the hands of South Africa and. 1740 01:28:11,547 --> 01:28:17,027 Speaker 26: Waleses agony brought to a close, battered in Cardiff like 1741 01:28:17,187 --> 01:28:22,747 Speaker 26: they have never been batted before. It takes the very best, 1742 01:28:22,907 --> 01:28:26,747 Speaker 26: maybe the best ever, to post totals like this, and 1743 01:28:26,947 --> 01:28:32,027 Speaker 26: that is unquestionably these South Africans, these spring Boks. 1744 01:28:32,547 --> 01:28:36,867 Speaker 4: Who end the year with the record breaking. 1745 01:28:36,667 --> 01:28:41,107 Speaker 1: Flourish the school from the track field and the court 1746 01:28:41,307 --> 01:28:44,947 Speaker 1: on your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine 1747 01:28:45,147 --> 01:28:45,907 Speaker 1: Youth Talks. 1748 01:28:45,707 --> 01:28:48,347 Speaker 4: In b coming up twelve minutes past two. 1749 01:28:48,627 --> 01:28:52,307 Speaker 3: After two straight home defeats in just one victory in 1750 01:28:52,387 --> 01:28:55,627 Speaker 3: their first five games of the A League Means Football season, 1751 01:28:55,947 --> 01:28:59,827 Speaker 3: the Wellington Phoenix back in the winner's circle and is there. 1752 01:28:59,787 --> 01:29:09,507 Speaker 4: The last opportunity for the visitors light in the Wellington Phoenix. 1753 01:29:10,547 --> 01:29:14,947 Speaker 25: They climbed from their recent front defeat one of the 1754 01:29:15,067 --> 01:29:22,107 Speaker 25: competition's form sites and springboard themselves into next weekend's Darby. 1755 01:29:23,387 --> 01:29:28,347 Speaker 25: How crucial might that performance that result be when they 1756 01:29:28,427 --> 01:29:30,107 Speaker 25: look back upon this season. 1757 01:29:30,427 --> 01:29:32,707 Speaker 3: So a two to one win for the Wellington Phoenix 1758 01:29:32,827 --> 01:29:36,067 Speaker 3: over Adelaide United yesterday. Alex Rufer opening the scoring of 1759 01:29:36,107 --> 01:29:38,707 Speaker 3: the first half, Remy Nazarene adding a second from the 1760 01:29:38,747 --> 01:29:43,627 Speaker 3: penalty spot After an hour, Young Joey Gerruccio on deve 1761 01:29:43,667 --> 01:29:45,787 Speaker 3: Boo off the bench for Adelaide, making it two to 1762 01:29:45,867 --> 01:29:48,907 Speaker 3: one with fifteen minutes to go, but the Phoenix hanging 1763 01:29:48,987 --> 01:29:52,227 Speaker 3: on for a crucial three points. Former Phoenix and All 1764 01:29:52,227 --> 01:29:56,267 Speaker 3: Whites goalkeeper Jacob Spoonley was in the Skysport commentary box 1765 01:29:56,347 --> 01:29:59,347 Speaker 3: for this one and will be again for Auckland FC's 1766 01:29:59,467 --> 01:30:03,347 Speaker 3: next match against Newcastle this afternoon underway at three o'clock. 1767 01:30:03,627 --> 01:30:05,347 Speaker 3: Jacob want to talk about the Auckland f C game 1768 01:30:05,387 --> 01:30:08,987 Speaker 3: in a moment. But for the Phoenix, how needed was 1769 01:30:09,067 --> 01:30:10,707 Speaker 3: this win for them yesterday? 1770 01:30:12,067 --> 01:30:14,787 Speaker 15: Very finey and it was a different team, wasn't it. 1771 01:30:15,907 --> 01:30:18,987 Speaker 15: They looked absolutely polar opposites from the side that took 1772 01:30:19,027 --> 01:30:23,347 Speaker 15: the field against MacArthur, and they had energy, They moved 1773 01:30:23,427 --> 01:30:26,107 Speaker 15: with intention and we've talked a lot about how this 1774 01:30:26,507 --> 01:30:30,747 Speaker 15: sort to control games through possession and pressure, but that 1775 01:30:30,947 --> 01:30:33,667 Speaker 15: had a purpose yesterday and that was really clear from 1776 01:30:33,707 --> 01:30:36,987 Speaker 15: the outset. We wanted a response after the derby, didn't 1777 01:30:36,987 --> 01:30:38,987 Speaker 15: get it last week, but got it in the first 1778 01:30:39,227 --> 01:30:43,507 Speaker 15: fifteen minutes yesterday, and importantly, they created a product at 1779 01:30:43,507 --> 01:30:46,947 Speaker 15: the end that Alex Rufer I could argue one of 1780 01:30:46,987 --> 01:30:49,827 Speaker 15: the best players on the field. He was a difference 1781 01:30:49,867 --> 01:30:53,907 Speaker 15: and he gave kind of value to the inertiap that 1782 01:30:53,947 --> 01:30:54,707 Speaker 15: they had created. 1783 01:30:55,587 --> 01:31:00,667 Speaker 3: In your experience, is it common for teams to play 1784 01:31:01,267 --> 01:31:03,947 Speaker 3: and I'm not going to sugarcoat this terribly one week 1785 01:31:04,427 --> 01:31:07,707 Speaker 3: and then come out and play far, far better than 1786 01:31:07,747 --> 01:31:10,587 Speaker 3: next And what causes that? How can the same group 1787 01:31:10,667 --> 01:31:12,947 Speaker 3: of players be so different from wake? 1788 01:31:12,987 --> 01:31:13,147 Speaker 5: Do like? 1789 01:31:13,267 --> 01:31:15,627 Speaker 4: It must be terribly difficult for coaches. 1790 01:31:16,867 --> 01:31:19,067 Speaker 15: I like how you've come to the expert not playing 1791 01:31:19,227 --> 01:31:25,627 Speaker 15: very well, Piney, But you're right, a professional sport, it's 1792 01:31:25,667 --> 01:31:27,547 Speaker 15: a grind. It still is a job, and you can 1793 01:31:27,667 --> 01:31:32,227 Speaker 15: get very much into the rhythms of it. So going 1794 01:31:32,267 --> 01:31:34,907 Speaker 15: through the motions has a really bad connotation. But what 1795 01:31:35,027 --> 01:31:37,347 Speaker 15: I want the audience to appreciate is that you know, 1796 01:31:37,467 --> 01:31:40,707 Speaker 15: there's still very much is you know, being stuck in 1797 01:31:40,787 --> 01:31:43,307 Speaker 15: the rhythm of the job. And from what we heard, 1798 01:31:43,427 --> 01:31:47,227 Speaker 15: chiefly obviously didn't like the game last week, But what 1799 01:31:47,427 --> 01:31:50,747 Speaker 15: he's really focused on is connecting this football team back 1800 01:31:50,827 --> 01:31:53,667 Speaker 15: to the community that they represent, and importantly the Yellow 1801 01:31:53,707 --> 01:31:56,467 Speaker 15: Fea fans that are so invested he got decide to 1802 01:31:56,587 --> 01:32:00,867 Speaker 15: sit in the stands and to appreciate quite literally the 1803 01:32:01,027 --> 01:32:04,307 Speaker 15: game from the perspective of the fans. And I think 1804 01:32:04,587 --> 01:32:07,547 Speaker 15: in those sorts of experiences for the players there's a 1805 01:32:07,587 --> 01:32:10,747 Speaker 15: lot of value because it takes them out of the training, 1806 01:32:10,867 --> 01:32:14,067 Speaker 15: out of the minutia of passing the ball, working only 1807 01:32:14,147 --> 01:32:16,067 Speaker 15: touch all that sort of things, and gets them to 1808 01:32:16,147 --> 01:32:19,947 Speaker 15: realize that not only do they represent a city, but 1809 01:32:20,747 --> 01:32:24,027 Speaker 15: they need to ensure that they reflect the qualities and 1810 01:32:24,307 --> 01:32:27,427 Speaker 15: the energy and the investment from the fans. And I 1811 01:32:27,507 --> 01:32:29,227 Speaker 15: think that's a really smart move from them. So not 1812 01:32:29,347 --> 01:32:31,907 Speaker 15: only was it a reaction after McCarthy game, but it 1813 01:32:32,027 --> 01:32:33,827 Speaker 15: was also all right, let's get back to who we 1814 01:32:33,947 --> 01:32:37,227 Speaker 15: are and what we want to do. And that's definitely 1815 01:32:37,827 --> 01:32:40,067 Speaker 15: put the Phoenix on the front foot. I think, well 1816 01:32:40,107 --> 01:32:41,307 Speaker 15: before the ninety minutes. 1817 01:32:41,147 --> 01:32:43,467 Speaker 3: Indeed, well, their next assignment's a big one, the derby. 1818 01:32:43,507 --> 01:32:45,507 Speaker 3: I want to talk about Auckland Left. C's a game 1819 01:32:45,547 --> 01:32:48,987 Speaker 3: this afternoon in a moment, But how crucial was yesterday 1820 01:32:49,027 --> 01:32:51,347 Speaker 3: and how much confidence will the Phoenix take is they 1821 01:32:51,427 --> 01:32:54,827 Speaker 3: had to derby number five against Auckland Left, say they've 1822 01:32:54,867 --> 01:32:57,547 Speaker 3: lost the last four, how much of a springboard will 1823 01:32:57,627 --> 01:32:58,427 Speaker 3: yesterday give them. 1824 01:33:00,227 --> 01:33:04,707 Speaker 15: I think the performance was the most important aspect yesterday. 1825 01:33:04,827 --> 01:33:07,027 Speaker 15: The result was there and that's confident building, and not 1826 01:33:07,147 --> 01:33:09,867 Speaker 15: only does it give you confidence into the derby, but 1827 01:33:09,907 --> 01:33:12,227 Speaker 15: it also puts the Phoenix at the moment in the 1828 01:33:12,347 --> 01:33:14,987 Speaker 15: top six. So they when they look at the table, 1829 01:33:15,147 --> 01:33:20,267 Speaker 15: they all see themselves up around the likes of Sydney FC, 1830 01:33:20,867 --> 01:33:24,147 Speaker 15: Auckland's FC and Prisdan Raw So they are still kind 1831 01:33:24,187 --> 01:33:28,267 Speaker 15: of attached to that conversation. The other thing to note, 1832 01:33:29,027 --> 01:33:32,627 Speaker 15: Piney is that the way the Phoenix went about their 1833 01:33:32,707 --> 01:33:35,907 Speaker 15: job yesterday, they wanted to get on that front foot. 1834 01:33:35,947 --> 01:33:38,947 Speaker 15: As I said before, there was an urgency about their 1835 01:33:39,027 --> 01:33:40,427 Speaker 15: game that we haven't seen at times. 1836 01:33:40,507 --> 01:33:42,187 Speaker 22: This is a side that has put. 1837 01:33:42,107 --> 01:33:45,187 Speaker 15: A lot of stock in controlling matches, perhaps been a 1838 01:33:45,227 --> 01:33:48,227 Speaker 15: bit conservative at times, but what we saw yesterday was 1839 01:33:48,227 --> 01:33:51,267 Speaker 15: a side that wanted to press, that wanted to disrupt, 1840 01:33:51,387 --> 01:33:54,547 Speaker 15: never let Adelaide settle on the ball, and those sorts 1841 01:33:54,747 --> 01:33:57,707 Speaker 15: of aspects to the game. Those qualities are going to 1842 01:33:57,747 --> 01:34:00,547 Speaker 15: be so instrumental because they will be walking into a 1843 01:34:00,747 --> 01:34:05,667 Speaker 15: cauldron at go Media Stadium next weekend. Auckland's stowed up 1844 01:34:06,027 --> 01:34:10,707 Speaker 15: beat the Phoenix two to one, done their hometown with 1845 01:34:10,907 --> 01:34:13,707 Speaker 15: nine men, and what we're sharing is that there is 1846 01:34:13,747 --> 01:34:15,747 Speaker 15: a thinks that this is going to be the b 1847 01:34:15,867 --> 01:34:18,667 Speaker 15: starvy yet because Auckland wants to make a spectacle out 1848 01:34:18,667 --> 01:34:21,747 Speaker 15: of this. We've seen behind the scenes that this Auckland 1849 01:34:21,787 --> 01:34:25,867 Speaker 15: management staff prioritizer Derby. They want to make it a statement. 1850 01:34:25,947 --> 01:34:29,867 Speaker 15: They want to suppress Leanings and Phoenix, and there is 1851 01:34:30,547 --> 01:34:33,587 Speaker 15: a growing sense within the Phoenix I think that they 1852 01:34:33,707 --> 01:34:36,187 Speaker 15: really want to land a blow. Publicly, they won't say it, 1853 01:34:36,227 --> 01:34:37,867 Speaker 15: they won't build it up too much, but I think 1854 01:34:37,987 --> 01:34:40,987 Speaker 15: privately they want to get their own back and this 1855 01:34:41,147 --> 01:34:42,427 Speaker 15: is a great time for. 1856 01:34:42,467 --> 01:34:43,667 Speaker 9: Them to go and do it well. 1857 01:34:43,707 --> 01:34:44,987 Speaker 4: They can focus their energy on that. 1858 01:34:45,107 --> 01:34:48,307 Speaker 3: Now for Auckland FC, they of course have to negotiate 1859 01:34:48,467 --> 01:34:51,227 Speaker 3: their next assignment, which is in just an hour or 1860 01:34:51,307 --> 01:34:55,427 Speaker 3: so when they take on Newcastle ABG Media Stadium. You 1861 01:34:55,507 --> 01:34:59,107 Speaker 3: know you talk about subpar performances. Steve Coriker pulled no 1862 01:34:59,347 --> 01:35:02,107 Speaker 3: punches last week when he joined you on the Sky 1863 01:35:02,387 --> 01:35:05,147 Speaker 3: panel after the game against Brisbane, even though they came 1864 01:35:05,187 --> 01:35:07,867 Speaker 3: away with a one all draw, he said, this is 1865 01:35:07,947 --> 01:35:10,427 Speaker 3: the worst we've played since I've been here, and that's 1866 01:35:10,467 --> 01:35:14,107 Speaker 3: the entire life of the club. How likely is a 1867 01:35:14,227 --> 01:35:17,387 Speaker 3: reaction from Auckland FC this afternoon to what happened a 1868 01:35:17,467 --> 01:35:17,867 Speaker 3: week ago. 1869 01:35:18,627 --> 01:35:22,107 Speaker 15: We've already seen one piney so Marley France, are Jake 1870 01:35:22,147 --> 01:35:23,907 Speaker 15: Bremmer and Dan Hall of being introduced to the squad, 1871 01:35:24,187 --> 01:35:27,107 Speaker 15: and I'll take you behind the scenes. Just rewinding to 1872 01:35:27,227 --> 01:35:31,107 Speaker 15: last week, we're on the panel and Steve has very 1873 01:35:31,227 --> 01:35:33,947 Speaker 15: clearly delivered a message in the responses to the first 1874 01:35:33,987 --> 01:35:37,027 Speaker 15: two questions that we've had, and I thought at that 1875 01:35:37,107 --> 01:35:41,027 Speaker 15: point we were moving on, and then in my ears 1876 01:35:41,587 --> 01:35:44,547 Speaker 15: from our producer Kingsley, comes one more question. So I 1877 01:35:44,627 --> 01:35:46,907 Speaker 15: came up with something on the spot, got pretty much 1878 01:35:46,947 --> 01:35:49,467 Speaker 15: exactly the same response from Steve, which is not happy. 1879 01:35:49,707 --> 01:35:52,187 Speaker 15: There's going to be something that's talked about internally and 1880 01:35:52,267 --> 01:35:54,867 Speaker 15: we need to be better great and messing blaired Dainty 1881 01:35:54,947 --> 01:35:55,427 Speaker 15: the director. 1882 01:35:55,587 --> 01:35:56,707 Speaker 18: Clearly something are going wrong. 1883 01:35:56,747 --> 01:35:58,627 Speaker 15: He's like, hey, guys, just one more question. I was like, 1884 01:35:59,187 --> 01:36:03,787 Speaker 15: I can feel the heat radiating often guy, I was 1885 01:36:03,907 --> 01:36:05,227 Speaker 15: panning right next to him. 1886 01:36:05,667 --> 01:36:07,467 Speaker 13: No more question, Let him go. 1887 01:36:08,027 --> 01:36:10,587 Speaker 15: Let him go and process what he needs to process. 1888 01:36:11,347 --> 01:36:14,147 Speaker 15: But in terms of Auckland and the way they want 1889 01:36:14,187 --> 01:36:17,547 Speaker 15: to play, for me, the most important thing today is 1890 01:36:17,627 --> 01:36:20,507 Speaker 15: the press. It is how they want to use what 1891 01:36:20,747 --> 01:36:24,107 Speaker 15: is an effect of defensive action and weaponize it against 1892 01:36:24,387 --> 01:36:26,827 Speaker 15: Newcastle Jets. And this is a side that might play 1893 01:36:26,867 --> 01:36:30,467 Speaker 15: into the teeth of that defensive effort, of that energy, 1894 01:36:30,667 --> 01:36:34,147 Speaker 15: of that intention for Auckland f C. The Jets under 1895 01:36:34,187 --> 01:36:36,267 Speaker 15: Mark Milligan are a side that do want to play 1896 01:36:36,267 --> 01:36:39,587 Speaker 15: They want to play short. There are shades of Angiposta, 1897 01:36:39,667 --> 01:36:44,387 Speaker 15: Conglu and Mark Milligan and they will want to play 1898 01:36:44,587 --> 01:36:49,787 Speaker 15: through whatever is posed by Auckland's and any means necessary. 1899 01:36:50,707 --> 01:36:53,387 Speaker 15: And that is something that I think is going to 1900 01:36:53,387 --> 01:36:55,627 Speaker 15: be a fascinating bat of what wins out the press 1901 01:36:56,347 --> 01:36:59,987 Speaker 15: or the commitment to playing what will be methodical football. 1902 01:37:00,787 --> 01:37:04,067 Speaker 3: Do you think Auckland FC are a better team potentially 1903 01:37:04,387 --> 01:37:08,467 Speaker 3: this year than last year? Ross wise, having had the 1904 01:37:08,587 --> 01:37:11,827 Speaker 3: one season under their belt, they were very very good 1905 01:37:11,867 --> 01:37:15,347 Speaker 3: in their maiden season. Could they potentially be a better 1906 01:37:15,467 --> 01:37:17,107 Speaker 3: team in season two. 1907 01:37:18,627 --> 01:37:23,587 Speaker 15: It's a really interesting question, and I think everyone's perspective 1908 01:37:23,667 --> 01:37:28,027 Speaker 15: on this is colored by comparing the Auckland side that 1909 01:37:28,227 --> 01:37:31,027 Speaker 15: we came to love and gave us so much excitement 1910 01:37:31,067 --> 01:37:34,227 Speaker 15: in the back end of the year to this team 1911 01:37:34,307 --> 01:37:36,747 Speaker 15: that is really working its way into the season, They've 1912 01:37:36,747 --> 01:37:39,707 Speaker 15: worked your way through injuries, they've got new recruitment, so 1913 01:37:39,747 --> 01:37:44,787 Speaker 15: there's always a phasing imperiod pined. So I think it's 1914 01:37:44,947 --> 01:37:48,547 Speaker 15: largely a bit of a It's a bit inaccurate, but 1915 01:37:48,987 --> 01:37:51,507 Speaker 15: unreasonable to say, well, no, they're not scoring the goals. 1916 01:37:51,507 --> 01:37:53,307 Speaker 15: There's not that fluid football that we saw from them 1917 01:37:53,307 --> 01:37:55,387 Speaker 15: in the back end of last season. Take you back 1918 01:37:55,387 --> 01:37:59,027 Speaker 15: to the start of last year and this Auckland side. 1919 01:37:59,027 --> 01:38:02,787 Speaker 15: We're grinding out results, often late into games. I do 1920 01:38:02,987 --> 01:38:07,107 Speaker 15: think that there is an element of color bration that 1921 01:38:07,347 --> 01:38:09,467 Speaker 15: isn't there in this Sorkland team at the moment. They 1922 01:38:09,507 --> 01:38:12,347 Speaker 15: are a different team, let's remember, and they are working 1923 01:38:12,387 --> 01:38:15,707 Speaker 15: each other out. They're not playing with those two traditional 1924 01:38:15,787 --> 01:38:19,227 Speaker 15: wingers and bombing on. There's not necessarily that same little 1925 01:38:19,387 --> 01:38:21,627 Speaker 15: energy through the middle of the park. But that's not 1926 01:38:21,787 --> 01:38:26,067 Speaker 15: a bad thing. They're now players a lopsided attack, very 1927 01:38:26,147 --> 01:38:28,067 Speaker 15: much on the left hand side. Lachland broke the right 1928 01:38:28,107 --> 01:38:31,027 Speaker 15: wingers coming inside, and so I think it's still working 1929 01:38:31,067 --> 01:38:34,427 Speaker 15: out how this all comes together. What I do think 1930 01:38:34,547 --> 01:38:38,307 Speaker 15: we want to see though, is a more resolute, certain 1931 01:38:38,427 --> 01:38:41,547 Speaker 15: defensive effort, and I don't think we've seen that at 1932 01:38:41,627 --> 01:38:45,547 Speaker 15: times this season. There's been a suggestion of fragility that 1933 01:38:45,667 --> 01:38:48,267 Speaker 15: we didn't see there last season, and I think that's 1934 01:38:48,347 --> 01:38:51,667 Speaker 15: the thing that's perhaps the most frustrating step in particularly 1935 01:38:51,707 --> 01:38:54,267 Speaker 15: he did mention it last week that he felt that 1936 01:38:54,467 --> 01:38:56,747 Speaker 15: they weren't always lock and key tight. 1937 01:38:57,907 --> 01:39:00,467 Speaker 3: Looking forward to the soufternoons contest Aukland FC against the 1938 01:39:00,547 --> 01:39:03,267 Speaker 3: new Castle Jets three o'clock auld go media, and then 1939 01:39:04,747 --> 01:39:07,227 Speaker 3: a six day white for Darbin number two this season 1940 01:39:07,307 --> 01:39:09,347 Speaker 3: Derby number five and as you say, Jake could be 1941 01:39:09,427 --> 01:39:11,987 Speaker 3: the best Derby yet always appreciate your analysis. 1942 01:39:11,987 --> 01:39:15,547 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us, not a problem, mate, and can't 1943 01:39:15,587 --> 01:39:16,467 Speaker 5: wait for this one. 1944 01:39:16,787 --> 01:39:18,027 Speaker 15: The whistle to be by on this one and then 1945 01:39:18,027 --> 01:39:19,867 Speaker 15: we get to focus on the derby next week. Piney, 1946 01:39:19,987 --> 01:39:22,027 Speaker 15: I truly believe this is going to be the best 1947 01:39:22,067 --> 01:39:24,547 Speaker 15: monu minutes of football that we've seen out of the derbies. 1948 01:39:24,627 --> 01:39:27,387 Speaker 3: Well let's hope so, mate, I'll hold you to that 1949 01:39:27,507 --> 01:39:29,987 Speaker 3: and I certainly hope you're right. And when my experience 1950 01:39:30,027 --> 01:39:33,187 Speaker 3: you normally are Jacob Spoonley joining us with a look 1951 01:39:33,227 --> 01:39:37,307 Speaker 3: at football. So Auckland FC against Newcastle this afternoon from 1952 01:39:37,347 --> 01:39:40,867 Speaker 3: three o'clock and then Derby number two for the year 1953 01:39:41,387 --> 01:39:44,467 Speaker 3: is next Saturday, five o'clock at go Media State and 1954 01:39:44,467 --> 01:39:47,187 Speaker 3: Auckland f C at home to Wellington Phoenix, who will 1955 01:39:47,227 --> 01:39:49,387 Speaker 3: go in with a fair degree of confidence after their 1956 01:39:49,427 --> 01:39:53,507 Speaker 3: win over Adelaide United. Yesterday two twenty three, we were 1957 01:39:53,547 --> 01:39:57,307 Speaker 3: talking about the Commonwealth Games yesterday and the potential of 1958 01:39:57,507 --> 01:39:59,867 Speaker 3: bringing them back to New Zealand. Nicky Nickel, from the 1959 01:39:59,907 --> 01:40:02,907 Speaker 3: New Zealand Olympic Committee CEO there joined us and talked 1960 01:40:02,907 --> 01:40:05,827 Speaker 3: about their desire to at least, at the very least 1961 01:40:05,987 --> 01:40:09,947 Speaker 3: explore the possibility of having the Commonwealth Games here in 1962 01:40:10,027 --> 01:40:12,467 Speaker 3: New Zealand in twenty thirty four. We had a great 1963 01:40:12,467 --> 01:40:16,387 Speaker 3: discussion about it. Yesterday got an email overnight from Richard Willis, 1964 01:40:16,427 --> 01:40:19,587 Speaker 3: who was the father of Nick Willis, who obviously you'll 1965 01:40:19,667 --> 01:40:22,947 Speaker 3: know from his feats in both Commonwealth and Olympic Games. 1966 01:40:23,147 --> 01:40:25,427 Speaker 3: I wanted to read parts of Richard's email to you, 1967 01:40:25,787 --> 01:40:28,827 Speaker 3: Jason regular List especially interested in the comm Games. I've 1968 01:40:28,867 --> 01:40:33,107 Speaker 3: been to five Melbourne, Dally, Glasgow and Gold Coast in 1969 01:40:33,267 --> 01:40:37,267 Speaker 3: addition to six Olympics and many World Championships. There are 1970 01:40:37,307 --> 01:40:40,587 Speaker 3: several compelling arguments, writes Richard, for the Commonwealth Games, the 1971 01:40:40,667 --> 01:40:44,027 Speaker 3: main one being they allow aspiring athletes to compete in 1972 01:40:44,227 --> 01:40:47,307 Speaker 3: a more limited international competition. My son Nick has won 1973 01:40:47,387 --> 01:40:50,547 Speaker 3: gold and two bronzes in the Commonwealth Games and two 1974 01:40:50,787 --> 01:40:54,427 Speaker 3: Olympic medals. There is no doubt his win at the 1975 01:40:54,467 --> 01:40:57,667 Speaker 3: Common Games in Melbourne two thousand and six set him 1976 01:40:57,707 --> 01:41:00,187 Speaker 3: up for silver at the Olympics in Beijing. 1977 01:41:00,667 --> 01:41:02,947 Speaker 4: The big issue, though, is where in New Zealand Wellington 1978 01:41:03,027 --> 01:41:07,387 Speaker 4: no good Unfortunately only one proper track, which, despite our pleas, 1979 01:41:07,467 --> 01:41:09,587 Speaker 4: they refuse to build the new stadium large enough for 1980 01:41:09,667 --> 01:41:13,467 Speaker 4: a track. Richard is also currently President of Athletics Wellington. 1981 01:41:13,507 --> 01:41:15,787 Speaker 4: He notes here and then goes on to say the 1982 01:41:15,867 --> 01:41:20,507 Speaker 4: venue must have an international airport, sufficient hotel type accommodation, 1983 01:41:21,107 --> 01:41:24,747 Speaker 4: a stadium with a track or capable of laying one down, 1984 01:41:24,827 --> 01:41:28,067 Speaker 4: which is what happened at the mcg and six, a 1985 01:41:28,187 --> 01:41:31,267 Speaker 4: stadium capable of holding at least thirty five thousand and 1986 01:41:31,427 --> 01:41:34,107 Speaker 4: reasonable access to a valodrome, and maybe a rowing venue, 1987 01:41:34,147 --> 01:41:37,027 Speaker 4: et cetera. And Richard goes on to say christ Church 1988 01:41:37,107 --> 01:41:39,027 Speaker 4: is out of the question. Really, the new athletics stadium 1989 01:41:39,067 --> 01:41:41,347 Speaker 4: would need to have seating built all the way around it, 1990 01:41:41,747 --> 01:41:44,067 Speaker 4: and the new indoor complex is too small. They might 1991 01:41:44,187 --> 01:41:47,907 Speaker 4: consider though, applying for a World Indoor Championship, which only 1992 01:41:47,947 --> 01:41:50,427 Speaker 4: needs a two hundred track, so that leaves Auckland as 1993 01:41:50,507 --> 01:41:54,547 Speaker 4: the only real possibility, especially if some bright engineer could 1994 01:41:54,587 --> 01:41:57,147 Speaker 4: push some of the seating back so that a four 1995 01:41:57,227 --> 01:42:00,107 Speaker 4: hundred meter track could be refitted. As for the nineteen 1996 01:42:00,227 --> 01:42:02,827 Speaker 4: ninety Games at Mount Smart, it already has a warm 1997 01:42:02,907 --> 01:42:04,907 Speaker 4: up track next door with tunnel connection. It has a 1998 01:42:04,987 --> 01:42:08,707 Speaker 4: train line could easily be run to a new temporary stadium. 1999 01:42:09,027 --> 01:42:12,227 Speaker 4: Great thoughts, Richard, thank you for getting in touch with those. 2000 01:42:12,507 --> 01:42:14,387 Speaker 4: I guess we wait to see what the next steps are. 2001 01:42:14,707 --> 01:42:16,027 Speaker 4: By the sounds of it, they're not going to have 2002 01:42:16,067 --> 01:42:20,627 Speaker 4: any idea about the process forbidding for twenty thirty four 2003 01:42:21,067 --> 01:42:24,867 Speaker 4: until after Glasgow's Games next year. The twenty twenty six 2004 01:42:24,947 --> 01:42:28,627 Speaker 4: Commonwealth Games two twenty six quick check on the golf 2005 01:42:28,867 --> 01:42:32,227 Speaker 4: for you, if I can get the correct screen up here, 2006 01:42:32,267 --> 01:42:35,547 Speaker 4: it is so. Kazumi Kabori has part of the first 2007 01:42:35,587 --> 01:42:38,187 Speaker 4: two holes. He stayed at twelve under. The leaders are 2008 01:42:38,187 --> 01:42:42,027 Speaker 4: at thirteen under. There are four of them at thirteen under, 2009 01:42:42,187 --> 01:42:44,307 Speaker 4: including the three of a night leaders who are yet 2010 01:42:44,387 --> 01:42:48,307 Speaker 4: to register a score for their first hole. Nick Vokee 2011 01:42:48,307 --> 01:42:50,947 Speaker 4: one under three to three holes is eleven under for 2012 01:42:50,987 --> 01:42:53,507 Speaker 4: the tournament and Dan Hilly are won over through two 2013 01:42:53,587 --> 01:42:56,347 Speaker 4: today has dropped down to ten under, but still well 2014 01:42:56,427 --> 01:43:00,267 Speaker 4: and truly within striking distance, so thirteen under the leaders, 2015 01:43:00,787 --> 01:43:03,307 Speaker 4: Kabori at twelve under, Voke at eleven under, Hilly Are 2016 01:43:03,387 --> 01:43:06,107 Speaker 4: at ten under the card We'll come back in a 2017 01:43:06,107 --> 01:43:08,867 Speaker 4: seat and talks and basketball on Weekend Sport. 2018 01:43:09,467 --> 01:43:12,987 Speaker 1: The biggest seams in sports are on Weekend Sports with 2019 01:43:13,187 --> 01:43:17,267 Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted home 2020 01:43:17,347 --> 01:43:18,707 Speaker 1: builder news Dogs they'd. 2021 01:43:18,547 --> 01:43:20,027 Speaker 4: Be two twenty nine. 2022 01:43:20,067 --> 01:43:22,147 Speaker 3: The Tall Blacks have suffered a narrow eighty four to 2023 01:43:22,307 --> 01:43:25,707 Speaker 3: seventy nine defeat to Australia in their World Cup qualifying 2024 01:43:25,787 --> 01:43:28,867 Speaker 3: opener in Hobart on Friday night, and that is. 2025 01:43:28,947 --> 01:43:33,107 Speaker 27: All and after its Titanic battle, a sea storing affair 2026 01:43:33,147 --> 01:43:34,947 Speaker 27: where both teams were in front in each of the 2027 01:43:35,027 --> 01:43:37,707 Speaker 27: fourth quarter as Australia gets home for the tune of 2028 01:43:37,827 --> 01:43:41,227 Speaker 27: five points. Full time in Hobart, it's Australia eighty four, 2029 01:43:41,627 --> 01:43:42,947 Speaker 27: New Zealand seventy nine. 2030 01:43:43,027 --> 01:43:45,507 Speaker 3: Now New Zealand led by seven at halftime and was 2031 01:43:45,547 --> 01:43:48,067 Speaker 3: still up by one at three quarter time, but they 2032 01:43:48,107 --> 01:43:51,307 Speaker 3: were outscored eighteen twelve in the fourth quarter as the 2033 01:43:51,347 --> 01:43:54,187 Speaker 3: Boomers held their nerve to draw first blood in this 2034 01:43:54,387 --> 01:43:56,907 Speaker 3: trans Tasman series. Sam and Inga led the Tall Black 2035 01:43:56,947 --> 01:44:00,507 Speaker 3: statue nineteen points ten rebounds. Flynn Cameron had fifteen points 2036 01:44:00,907 --> 01:44:03,667 Speaker 3: and seven assists. The two sides will meet again in 2037 01:44:03,787 --> 01:44:07,867 Speaker 3: Wellington tomorrow night to complete the feb International window. Now, 2038 01:44:07,907 --> 01:44:09,827 Speaker 3: we were hoping to get a chat with a member 2039 01:44:09,867 --> 01:44:12,547 Speaker 3: of the Tall Blacks. Unfortunately their travel has been disrupted 2040 01:44:12,587 --> 01:44:14,547 Speaker 3: today so they're not available to chat to us. Let's 2041 01:44:14,547 --> 01:44:18,187 Speaker 3: hear though from coach jud Flavel with his initial thoughts 2042 01:44:18,267 --> 01:44:19,067 Speaker 3: on game one. 2043 01:44:19,707 --> 01:44:20,747 Speaker 5: Good competitive game. 2044 01:44:22,307 --> 01:44:24,547 Speaker 16: I think we all anticipated that it was going to 2045 01:44:24,547 --> 01:44:28,067 Speaker 16: be a physical game, you know, one that you know, 2046 01:44:28,107 --> 01:44:32,027 Speaker 16: I'm proud of our team for I guess particular areas 2047 01:44:32,067 --> 01:44:34,187 Speaker 16: in the game that we wanted to really impose ourselves. 2048 01:44:34,947 --> 01:44:36,987 Speaker 16: You know, we won the rebound account, which is which 2049 01:44:37,067 --> 01:44:39,267 Speaker 16: is a huge part of I guess, the way that 2050 01:44:39,307 --> 01:44:46,147 Speaker 16: we want to play. We you know, Ossie, the Boomers 2051 01:44:46,227 --> 01:44:50,027 Speaker 16: were very physical, pushing us out of our stuff, you know, 2052 01:44:50,187 --> 01:44:52,707 Speaker 16: our cutting and things like that in the second half, 2053 01:44:53,787 --> 01:44:56,067 Speaker 16: but you know, we dealt with that. They we had 2054 01:44:56,067 --> 01:44:57,787 Speaker 16: a little lead they came back, they took the lead, 2055 01:44:57,827 --> 01:44:59,947 Speaker 16: we came back and secured it again. So you know, 2056 01:45:00,107 --> 01:45:03,507 Speaker 16: back and forth, and Dale Heckey makes a big shot. 2057 01:45:04,587 --> 01:45:07,107 Speaker 16: I can't remember the time, but just the push that 2058 01:45:07,227 --> 01:45:09,467 Speaker 16: lead up and probably just give them a little bit 2059 01:45:09,507 --> 01:45:09,987 Speaker 16: of a relief. 2060 01:45:10,067 --> 01:45:12,267 Speaker 5: But I guess I look at the stat. 2061 01:45:12,067 --> 01:45:14,467 Speaker 16: Sheet and they go, we shot twenty five percent from 2062 01:45:14,507 --> 01:45:18,187 Speaker 16: the from the three point line. A lot of those 2063 01:45:18,187 --> 01:45:20,907 Speaker 16: shots we really like and we'll take them again. And 2064 01:45:22,027 --> 01:45:24,027 Speaker 16: then the turnovers. You know, that's probably the key stat 2065 01:45:24,107 --> 01:45:26,587 Speaker 16: right there is just you know, fifteen is not necessarily 2066 01:45:26,587 --> 01:45:29,107 Speaker 16: a lot, but they scored well, they' score twelve points 2067 01:45:29,147 --> 01:45:33,747 Speaker 16: off it, so you know, international basketball, it's too many, 2068 01:45:34,027 --> 01:45:37,147 Speaker 16: too many points, too many free beests. So yeah, it's 2069 01:45:37,987 --> 01:45:40,627 Speaker 16: those are some key areas for us to take take 2070 01:45:40,667 --> 01:45:43,067 Speaker 16: a look at and to adjust for a game two. 2071 01:45:43,347 --> 01:45:46,027 Speaker 3: So speaking of game two, then what will the areas 2072 01:45:46,027 --> 01:45:47,787 Speaker 3: of focus be for the tall Backs. Will they be 2073 01:45:48,147 --> 01:45:50,867 Speaker 3: building on their strong second and third quarters or looking 2074 01:45:50,907 --> 01:45:53,787 Speaker 3: at what happened in the first and fourth quarters? 2075 01:45:54,347 --> 01:45:54,507 Speaker 11: Oh? 2076 01:45:54,587 --> 01:45:54,827 Speaker 5: Both. 2077 01:45:55,067 --> 01:45:56,907 Speaker 16: You know, I think we we always got to tap 2078 01:45:56,947 --> 01:46:00,587 Speaker 16: into our strengths, and I think, you know, some of 2079 01:46:00,587 --> 01:46:03,747 Speaker 16: those areas of I thought we put some really good 2080 01:46:03,787 --> 01:46:08,107 Speaker 16: defensive patches together and then just you know, there was 2081 01:46:08,667 --> 01:46:10,667 Speaker 16: there was moments there. I think we just controlled the 2082 01:46:10,707 --> 01:46:12,867 Speaker 16: glass and so we got to control the temper of 2083 01:46:12,947 --> 01:46:16,027 Speaker 16: the game. And I think once we secured the ball, 2084 01:46:16,147 --> 01:46:17,947 Speaker 16: sometimes we got a little bit too excited, you know, 2085 01:46:18,107 --> 01:46:19,467 Speaker 16: and and so. 2086 01:46:19,547 --> 01:46:21,067 Speaker 5: We just got to be a little bit more composed, 2087 01:46:21,107 --> 01:46:23,147 Speaker 5: I think. So that happened. 2088 01:46:23,707 --> 01:46:25,667 Speaker 16: Yeah, in the first half, obviously we were controlled the 2089 01:46:25,747 --> 01:46:28,867 Speaker 16: rebounds and and but those are probably the key areas, 2090 01:46:29,547 --> 01:46:32,067 Speaker 16: not necessarily when it happened, but just the common themes 2091 01:46:32,107 --> 01:46:34,547 Speaker 16: that we saw, and maybe we got away with it 2092 01:46:34,547 --> 01:46:36,427 Speaker 16: a little bit in the first half and second half 2093 01:46:36,467 --> 01:46:39,587 Speaker 16: we didn't, you know, probably the other side on as 2094 01:46:39,587 --> 01:46:42,507 Speaker 16: I'm looking at the statute, just Glover, I think, you know, 2095 01:46:42,627 --> 01:46:44,667 Speaker 16: he got into a bit of a rhythm there, as 2096 01:46:44,707 --> 01:46:49,467 Speaker 16: we know he does, and you know, I guess just 2097 01:46:49,627 --> 01:46:51,667 Speaker 16: being a little bit more urgent with certain people. 2098 01:46:53,187 --> 01:46:56,747 Speaker 5: But overall, as Isaiah says, like a lot to like. 2099 01:46:56,827 --> 01:46:59,307 Speaker 16: And we'll be looking at those areas again, and you know, 2100 01:46:59,387 --> 01:47:01,507 Speaker 16: both teams get to go against each other again. 2101 01:47:01,547 --> 01:47:02,347 Speaker 5: I'm sure there's gonna be. 2102 01:47:02,347 --> 01:47:05,027 Speaker 16: A little bit of little adjustments here and there, but 2103 01:47:05,107 --> 01:47:08,467 Speaker 16: for the majority of it you, we want to continue 2104 01:47:08,467 --> 01:47:10,147 Speaker 16: to play to our identity. 2105 01:47:10,347 --> 01:47:13,027 Speaker 3: So next from Judd Flavl, do they take confidence from 2106 01:47:13,227 --> 01:47:16,547 Speaker 3: silencing the home Australian crowd and will that carry over 2107 01:47:17,187 --> 01:47:19,667 Speaker 3: to having confidence in front of their own home crowd 2108 01:47:19,747 --> 01:47:21,027 Speaker 3: on Monday night at Wellington? 2109 01:47:21,267 --> 01:47:23,547 Speaker 16: Yeah, I think, you know, crowd being silenced or not 2110 01:47:23,787 --> 01:47:27,547 Speaker 16: just happy with the way that the guys are playing. Yeah, 2111 01:47:27,667 --> 01:47:31,627 Speaker 16: defensively rebounding once again, the you know, both teams have 2112 01:47:31,707 --> 01:47:33,747 Speaker 16: been together for a few days, so you know you're 2113 01:47:33,787 --> 01:47:35,827 Speaker 16: not going to get everything right out there, but you're 2114 01:47:35,827 --> 01:47:39,027 Speaker 16: going to be dependent upon guys communicating with each other. 2115 01:47:39,827 --> 01:47:40,507 Speaker 5: At the end of the day. 2116 01:47:40,547 --> 01:47:43,827 Speaker 16: There's basketball one on one stuff that we're relying upon 2117 01:47:43,867 --> 01:47:44,467 Speaker 16: the guys to do. 2118 01:47:44,667 --> 01:47:49,147 Speaker 5: But yeah, for the majority of the majority of it, very. 2119 01:47:49,107 --> 01:47:51,067 Speaker 16: Happy and I think we just can do a lot 2120 01:47:51,147 --> 01:47:55,787 Speaker 16: better to close out possessions or just entering our position 2121 01:47:56,027 --> 01:47:57,907 Speaker 16: and being on the same page a little bit more 2122 01:47:57,947 --> 01:47:59,587 Speaker 16: and just tiding up a few things there. 2123 01:47:59,827 --> 01:48:02,347 Speaker 3: And finally from jud Flavel, will there be a focus 2124 01:48:02,707 --> 01:48:05,707 Speaker 3: on rebounding as they had a big advantage in that 2125 01:48:05,907 --> 01:48:08,187 Speaker 3: area early on in the game, but Australia then came 2126 01:48:08,267 --> 01:48:10,427 Speaker 3: back and kind of leveled that out near the end. 2127 01:48:11,627 --> 01:48:12,187 Speaker 5: Good question. 2128 01:48:12,507 --> 01:48:14,507 Speaker 16: That's that's really the part of the game that will 2129 01:48:14,547 --> 01:48:19,267 Speaker 16: be looking into quite in depth there because I think 2130 01:48:19,307 --> 01:48:21,587 Speaker 16: we just got a little bit probably messy there with 2131 01:48:21,707 --> 01:48:23,627 Speaker 16: our offense, and a lot of that was you know, 2132 01:48:23,667 --> 01:48:26,467 Speaker 16: the Boomers ramping up their defense and pushing us off. 2133 01:48:26,547 --> 01:48:32,067 Speaker 5: But I think, you know, like we still I think 2134 01:48:32,107 --> 01:48:32,947 Speaker 5: it rebounded well. 2135 01:48:32,987 --> 01:48:35,867 Speaker 16: We had some offensive rebounds down there, we didn't really capitalize. 2136 01:48:35,867 --> 01:48:37,787 Speaker 16: I mean, they made some players that you know, tip 2137 01:48:37,947 --> 01:48:41,067 Speaker 16: the ball off, they made some blocks. You know, there's 2138 01:48:41,147 --> 01:48:44,747 Speaker 16: some some ones there under the basket that you know, 2139 01:48:44,787 --> 01:48:47,627 Speaker 16: we would have liked to have had again. But I mean, 2140 01:48:48,587 --> 01:48:51,627 Speaker 16: I think I think that's really two teams just going 2141 01:48:51,667 --> 01:48:55,187 Speaker 16: out it, you know, and being physical. And I thought 2142 01:48:55,187 --> 01:48:56,747 Speaker 16: we did a great great job again to the foul 2143 01:48:56,827 --> 01:49:01,587 Speaker 16: line that first half, attacking the scenes, and I think 2144 01:49:01,667 --> 01:49:03,587 Speaker 16: we just got a couple of shots honestly, just to 2145 01:49:03,707 --> 01:49:05,587 Speaker 16: open that back up again. So if we do that, 2146 01:49:05,747 --> 01:49:07,627 Speaker 16: you know, the bus was a beautiful game when you're 2147 01:49:07,627 --> 01:49:10,267 Speaker 16: making a couple more threes and that was probably the difference. 2148 01:49:10,307 --> 01:49:15,747 Speaker 16: Now they said out there made twelve threes, and so yeah, 2149 01:49:15,787 --> 01:49:17,787 Speaker 16: we would have liked to have done that, but it 2150 01:49:17,947 --> 01:49:22,227 Speaker 16: just means you've got to be very precise and execute 2151 01:49:22,267 --> 01:49:24,627 Speaker 16: even more and I don't think we did that tonight, 2152 01:49:24,827 --> 01:49:24,987 Speaker 16: you know. 2153 01:49:25,947 --> 01:49:26,867 Speaker 5: So those are the areas. 2154 01:49:27,027 --> 01:49:30,187 Speaker 3: Those are the as always eloquent thoughts of Tollblack's head 2155 01:49:30,267 --> 01:49:33,987 Speaker 3: coach Judd Flavel after the opening match against Australia Friday 2156 01:49:34,067 --> 01:49:36,907 Speaker 3: night in Hobart, a narrow five point last game two 2157 01:49:36,987 --> 01:49:40,627 Speaker 3: tomorrow night at Wellington's tesB Arena with a seven o'clock 2158 01:49:40,667 --> 01:49:43,387 Speaker 3: tip off, as the toll Blacks I'm sure will take confidence, 2159 01:49:43,427 --> 01:49:46,187 Speaker 3: as you heard there from jud Flavel into the second meeting, 2160 01:49:46,267 --> 01:49:48,787 Speaker 3: knowing that they are not a million miles away from 2161 01:49:48,907 --> 01:49:51,067 Speaker 3: the Boomers, who I'm sure would have been heavily favored 2162 01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:53,227 Speaker 3: going into this two match series. 2163 01:49:53,267 --> 01:49:54,107 Speaker 4: Twenty four to three. 2164 01:49:54,227 --> 01:49:57,907 Speaker 3: Liam Lawson, meantime, enjoyed an improved day at Formula one's 2165 01:49:57,947 --> 01:50:01,267 Speaker 3: Cutter Grand Prix, capped off by posting the twelfth fastest 2166 01:50:01,307 --> 01:50:04,827 Speaker 3: time and qualifying. After struggling on Friday with the seventeenth 2167 01:50:04,947 --> 01:50:09,227 Speaker 3: fastest time qualifying for the sprint race, Lawson was a 2168 01:50:09,307 --> 01:50:13,507 Speaker 3: credible fourteenth over the nineteen lap qualifying before achieving his 2169 01:50:13,627 --> 01:50:16,667 Speaker 3: best start in Kata. Despite missing a place in the 2170 01:50:16,747 --> 01:50:20,547 Speaker 3: top ten starting twelfth sees him better than his eighteenth 2171 01:50:21,027 --> 01:50:24,347 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three and the seventeenth he achieved at 2172 01:50:24,347 --> 01:50:27,867 Speaker 3: the same track last year, and he outqualified Red Ball 2173 01:50:27,987 --> 01:50:31,707 Speaker 3: rival Yuki Sonoda, who was eliminated in the first session 2174 01:50:31,747 --> 01:50:34,267 Speaker 3: of qualifying for the third Grand Prix in a row. 2175 01:50:34,347 --> 01:50:37,147 Speaker 3: This is at a time where both drivers await their 2176 01:50:37,187 --> 01:50:39,947 Speaker 3: futures being officially locked in for next season, as we 2177 01:50:40,107 --> 01:50:44,267 Speaker 3: understand it, and let's hope that sanity prevails here. After 2178 01:50:44,347 --> 01:50:47,307 Speaker 3: the Kata Grand Prix, the Formula One race the main 2179 01:50:47,427 --> 01:50:51,787 Speaker 3: race tomorrow, Red Ball Slash Racing Balls will at least 2180 01:50:51,827 --> 01:50:54,667 Speaker 3: make an announcement about Liam Lawson's future for next year. 2181 01:50:54,787 --> 01:50:57,627 Speaker 3: All signs are that he will have his Racing Ball 2182 01:50:57,747 --> 01:51:00,987 Speaker 3: seat again in twenty twenty six, but it would be 2183 01:51:01,067 --> 01:51:04,627 Speaker 3: nice to have it confirmed. Here is Liam Lawson's post 2184 01:51:04,827 --> 01:51:08,027 Speaker 3: qualifying me the interview just a short one from Liam. 2185 01:51:08,067 --> 01:51:09,627 Speaker 3: Firstly on how the car felt. 2186 01:51:10,067 --> 01:51:14,027 Speaker 21: Very sensitive for us this weekend, trying to make it 2187 01:51:14,067 --> 01:51:15,627 Speaker 21: a little bit easier from yesterday and I think the 2188 01:51:15,707 --> 01:51:17,787 Speaker 21: car was in a much bit of window today. We 2189 01:51:17,947 --> 01:51:19,827 Speaker 21: ended Q one in a very comfortable place and then 2190 01:51:20,987 --> 01:51:23,787 Speaker 21: unfortunately just very small changes seem to make it very 2191 01:51:24,027 --> 01:51:26,907 Speaker 21: tricky to drive, and we barely improved in Q two 2192 01:51:27,027 --> 01:51:32,667 Speaker 21: so it's frustrating, but obviously a small step from yesterday. 2193 01:51:33,467 --> 01:51:34,747 Speaker 5: Long hot race ahead tomorrow. 2194 01:51:34,867 --> 01:51:37,507 Speaker 4: What's your feeling in terms of the race pace? Can 2195 01:51:37,587 --> 01:51:39,427 Speaker 4: you push on and maybe grabble point or two of 2196 01:51:39,507 --> 01:51:39,907 Speaker 4: or go as well? 2197 01:51:40,387 --> 01:51:42,067 Speaker 21: We'll definitely try. It's going to be tough for sure, 2198 01:51:42,147 --> 01:51:47,427 Speaker 21: but yeah, obviously we'll we will try try and move forward. 2199 01:51:47,427 --> 01:51:48,907 Speaker 21: I think our race base today was very good. We 2200 01:51:49,027 --> 01:51:52,747 Speaker 21: just needed to qualify better and unfortunately this hasn't helped. 2201 01:51:53,307 --> 01:51:54,427 Speaker 21: This hasn't helped that time. 2202 01:51:54,347 --> 01:51:58,587 Speaker 3: That is Liam Lawson after qualifying, so he will start 2203 01:51:58,787 --> 01:52:01,827 Speaker 3: from what did I say, twelfth? Yes, the twelfth fastest 2204 01:52:01,867 --> 01:52:04,667 Speaker 3: time in qualifying, So yeah, a couple of positions to 2205 01:52:04,707 --> 01:52:07,347 Speaker 3: make up and maybe he's back amongst points again when 2206 01:52:07,947 --> 01:52:11,627 Speaker 3: that race gets underway tomorrow morning. New Zealand time twenty 2207 01:52:11,707 --> 01:52:14,427 Speaker 3: two away from three. Let's take a break then we'll 2208 01:52:14,467 --> 01:52:18,067 Speaker 3: take your state side Lee on Busby Weekend Sports US 2209 01:52:18,387 --> 01:52:21,347 Speaker 3: sports expert going to join us. We've got some NBA basketball, 2210 01:52:21,427 --> 01:52:24,587 Speaker 3: we've got some college football and NFL as well to cover. 2211 01:52:24,667 --> 01:52:26,587 Speaker 4: Ween Leon joins us after this break. 2212 01:52:27,027 --> 01:52:31,147 Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side eight ten eighty Weekend Sports 2213 01:52:31,227 --> 01:52:32,947 Speaker 1: with Jason Paine and GJ. 2214 01:52:33,147 --> 01:52:35,667 Speaker 2: Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted. 2215 01:52:35,427 --> 01:52:38,187 Speaker 4: Home builder news Dogs env eighteen to three. 2216 01:52:38,267 --> 01:52:40,827 Speaker 3: Kirston on textar Piney the commentator's advice this morning that 2217 01:52:40,907 --> 01:52:44,147 Speaker 3: Hadja confirmed he has the Red Bull seat and Sonoda 2218 01:52:44,227 --> 01:52:46,827 Speaker 3: has confirmed he hasn't made the team. Kirsten, thank you. 2219 01:52:46,987 --> 01:52:49,507 Speaker 3: I hadn't picked up on that. That always appeared to 2220 01:52:49,547 --> 01:52:51,227 Speaker 3: be the way they were going, right. I see Ralph 2221 01:52:51,227 --> 01:52:55,027 Speaker 3: Schumacher and talking to Sky in Germany has said the 2222 01:52:55,067 --> 01:52:57,027 Speaker 3: same thing is he said, Look, it's a pretty obvious 2223 01:52:58,947 --> 01:53:01,947 Speaker 3: scenario here and it's a pretty poorly kept secret that 2224 01:53:02,027 --> 01:53:04,667 Speaker 3: Sonoda will be going. Hadjar will go into the Red 2225 01:53:04,707 --> 01:53:10,347 Speaker 3: Bull seat and awesome will keepers seat alongside Lyndblatt. Avid Lindblatt, 2226 01:53:10,507 --> 01:53:13,227 Speaker 3: this new Red Bull junior. So let's hope that is 2227 01:53:13,347 --> 01:53:16,307 Speaker 3: confirmed over the next little while. Let's talk some US sport. 2228 01:53:16,747 --> 01:53:19,947 Speaker 3: Leon Busby are US sports expert on Weekend Sport to 2229 01:53:19,987 --> 01:53:21,387 Speaker 3: take us stateside? 2230 01:53:21,507 --> 01:53:22,227 Speaker 4: How are you mate? 2231 01:53:23,467 --> 01:53:26,147 Speaker 22: Afternoon? Jason stays for having me back on hitch to cover, 2232 01:53:26,267 --> 01:53:27,027 Speaker 22: So let's get into. 2233 01:53:26,907 --> 01:53:27,987 Speaker 4: It, mate, Let's go. 2234 01:53:28,347 --> 01:53:33,107 Speaker 3: NBA Dallas Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison fired recently after 2235 01:53:33,227 --> 01:53:36,707 Speaker 3: probably the worst trade in NBA history, getting rid of 2236 01:53:36,827 --> 01:53:37,427 Speaker 3: Luka Doncic. 2237 01:53:38,547 --> 01:53:41,187 Speaker 22: Yes, so amidst all of the betting scandals that recently 2238 01:53:41,267 --> 01:53:44,467 Speaker 22: camped to light. About three weeks ago, then Dallas Mavericks 2239 01:53:44,587 --> 01:53:48,347 Speaker 22: general manager and President of Basketball Operations Niko Harrison was 2240 01:53:48,427 --> 01:53:51,427 Speaker 22: fired due to the fallout from the stunny Luca Dontrich 2241 01:53:51,547 --> 01:53:54,387 Speaker 22: trade to the La Lakers in February. The twenty six 2242 01:53:54,467 --> 01:53:57,387 Speaker 22: oth Slavinian and a generational chalent now in his prime, 2243 01:53:57,867 --> 01:54:00,387 Speaker 22: was reluctantly shifted and I would be the worst trade, 2244 01:54:00,427 --> 01:54:02,707 Speaker 22: as you alluded to in the NBA let alone in 2245 01:54:02,787 --> 01:54:06,067 Speaker 22: all of professional sports. Dallas was due to paid Dontrich 2246 01:54:06,667 --> 01:54:10,027 Speaker 22: max contract extension, but Harrison thought they had more options 2247 01:54:10,027 --> 01:54:13,187 Speaker 22: available in a three team deal. Remember that Donts had 2248 01:54:13,307 --> 01:54:16,187 Speaker 22: just led the Mavericks to the Finals, even though they 2249 01:54:16,227 --> 01:54:17,307 Speaker 22: originally lost to Okay. 2250 01:54:17,387 --> 01:54:17,947 Speaker 10: See now. 2251 01:54:18,147 --> 01:54:20,787 Speaker 22: Just prior to Dallas competing in the twenty twenty four 2252 01:54:20,867 --> 01:54:24,947 Speaker 22: NBA Finals, Harrison signed a contract extension with the Mavericks 2253 01:54:25,267 --> 01:54:28,747 Speaker 22: for an undisclosed sum. He was earning five million annually 2254 01:54:28,787 --> 01:54:30,787 Speaker 22: as part of the front office. So how has that 2255 01:54:30,947 --> 01:54:33,427 Speaker 22: all worked out? The Lakers are thicken in the Western 2256 01:54:33,467 --> 01:54:36,947 Speaker 22: Conference while the Mavericks are panking and set fourteen out 2257 01:54:36,947 --> 01:54:40,307 Speaker 22: of fifteen. An absolute disaster for Dallas and no surprise 2258 01:54:40,427 --> 01:54:42,827 Speaker 22: in hindsight that Harrison was eventually shown. 2259 01:54:42,627 --> 01:54:43,227 Speaker 4: The door poning. 2260 01:54:43,627 --> 01:54:45,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think most of us, you included, could have 2261 01:54:45,867 --> 01:54:47,907 Speaker 3: predicted this a long way out lead. 2262 01:54:48,107 --> 01:54:51,507 Speaker 8: But more for that one you do not. 2263 01:54:51,747 --> 01:54:54,427 Speaker 4: You do not well? Interesting to see that it played 2264 01:54:54,427 --> 01:54:54,947 Speaker 4: out that way. 2265 01:54:55,107 --> 01:54:57,587 Speaker 3: Ah, the NBA itself, now you sent me notes, but 2266 01:54:57,707 --> 01:55:00,827 Speaker 3: had the NBA Cup. Now this sits inside the NBA 2267 01:55:01,267 --> 01:55:01,947 Speaker 3: regular season? 2268 01:55:02,067 --> 01:55:03,387 Speaker 4: Is that right? Can you explain this to us? 2269 01:55:04,307 --> 01:55:04,507 Speaker 9: Yes? 2270 01:55:04,587 --> 01:55:04,627 Speaker 5: So. 2271 01:55:04,707 --> 01:55:07,427 Speaker 22: The third edition of the NBA formerly known as the 2272 01:55:07,587 --> 01:55:10,547 Speaker 22: n Season Tournament, has introduced one of the most visually 2273 01:55:10,667 --> 01:55:15,987 Speaker 22: striking annovations in professional basketball, exertic hardwood courts designed specifically 2274 01:55:16,067 --> 01:55:18,747 Speaker 22: for Cup games. These courts don't just so different, they're 2275 01:55:18,787 --> 01:55:22,267 Speaker 22: built to signal that these matchups stand apart from regular 2276 01:55:22,307 --> 01:55:26,227 Speaker 22: season games, given the tournament it's own identity, energy and 2277 01:55:26,387 --> 01:55:28,547 Speaker 22: broadcast appel. Now, before I give my own thoughts on 2278 01:55:28,587 --> 01:55:30,867 Speaker 22: the NBA Cup, I wanted to share this, Covie Y Piney, 2279 01:55:31,707 --> 01:55:34,107 Speaker 22: you have a responsibility to this city to bring that 2280 01:55:34,267 --> 01:55:37,667 Speaker 22: championship banners where they belong. You have to understand that 2281 01:55:37,827 --> 01:55:42,747 Speaker 22: nothing else matters. This franchise does not hang division banners. 2282 01:55:42,787 --> 01:55:46,227 Speaker 22: It does not hang conference championships. We hang one banner 2283 01:55:46,307 --> 01:55:49,227 Speaker 22: and one banner only, and that's NBA titles. Do you 2284 01:55:49,387 --> 01:55:50,907 Speaker 22: have a guest Piney who said that quote? 2285 01:55:51,307 --> 01:55:54,307 Speaker 4: I know, I love the quote. Who said it? 2286 01:55:55,667 --> 01:55:58,307 Speaker 22: Yes? So that was famously said by NBA legend Kobe 2287 01:55:58,387 --> 01:56:01,307 Speaker 22: Bryant of the Lakers, who, in a storied career, delivered 2288 01:56:01,387 --> 01:56:04,347 Speaker 22: five titles to LA in seven finals appearances. Now, the 2289 01:56:04,427 --> 01:56:07,267 Speaker 22: reason I shared that quote is because the twenty twenty 2290 01:56:07,307 --> 01:56:11,307 Speaker 22: three Lakers won their inaugural in season tournaments and sacrilegiously 2291 01:56:11,427 --> 01:56:15,467 Speaker 22: hung a banner alongside the seventeen NBA titals. Now, I'd 2292 01:56:15,507 --> 01:56:17,707 Speaker 22: expected there was a lot of fan backlash, and in 2293 01:56:17,787 --> 01:56:20,187 Speaker 22: a way, I feel the same. The NBA Cup is 2294 01:56:20,187 --> 01:56:23,547 Speaker 22: an excuse for the Associate Association to try woodback viewers 2295 01:56:23,907 --> 01:56:27,347 Speaker 22: from an otherwise dwindling TV audience, a middle like eye 2296 01:56:27,387 --> 01:56:28,947 Speaker 22: candy for lack of a better term. But I'm not 2297 01:56:28,987 --> 01:56:30,867 Speaker 22: a huge fan of it. For the most part, I 2298 01:56:30,907 --> 01:56:34,187 Speaker 22: feel their die hard NBA fans like Andy really care 2299 01:56:34,227 --> 01:56:37,747 Speaker 22: about one thing. Who gets to hoist the lario'brian Trophy's 2300 01:56:37,827 --> 01:56:40,627 Speaker 22: NBA champions. There are said a pony, and hopefully I 2301 01:56:40,667 --> 01:56:42,667 Speaker 22: haven't upset too many of your younger listeners with that 2302 01:56:42,787 --> 01:56:43,227 Speaker 22: hot take. 2303 01:56:43,587 --> 01:56:45,507 Speaker 3: I don't think you would have, Leon, I think most 2304 01:56:45,587 --> 01:56:47,427 Speaker 3: listens would feel the same way. So let's go to 2305 01:56:47,507 --> 01:56:50,067 Speaker 3: the regular season. You mentioned the Lakers doing. 2306 01:56:49,947 --> 01:56:50,627 Speaker 4: Well in the West. 2307 01:56:50,667 --> 01:56:53,467 Speaker 3: Who else is standing out in the regular season in 2308 01:56:53,547 --> 01:56:55,467 Speaker 3: both the Western and Eastern conferences? 2309 01:56:56,387 --> 01:56:58,467 Speaker 22: Yeah, the regular season has already a called all the 2310 01:56:58,507 --> 01:57:00,867 Speaker 22: way through with some teams showing up. In the East, 2311 01:57:01,347 --> 01:57:04,227 Speaker 22: the Detroit Pistons, who were the punchline of the league 2312 01:57:04,267 --> 01:57:08,267 Speaker 22: only two years ago after two straight losses, are leading 2313 01:57:08,347 --> 01:57:11,027 Speaker 22: the conference with the fifteen and four record, followed by 2314 01:57:11,067 --> 01:57:14,227 Speaker 22: the Toronto Raptors, Miami Heat, New York Nts, and the 2315 01:57:14,267 --> 01:57:17,387 Speaker 22: Cleveland Cavaliers rounding out the top five. Now in the West, 2316 01:57:17,787 --> 01:57:21,187 Speaker 22: the defending champion ok Sees Thunder are looking ominous and 2317 01:57:21,267 --> 01:57:24,827 Speaker 22: they're leading all contenders with an impressive nineteen to one record, 2318 01:57:25,147 --> 01:57:28,427 Speaker 22: followed by the Denver Nuggets, LA Lakers, Houston Rockets, and 2319 01:57:28,587 --> 01:57:29,707 Speaker 22: San Antonio Spurs. 2320 01:57:30,307 --> 01:57:32,147 Speaker 3: I know we're early, Leon, but have you started to 2321 01:57:32,187 --> 01:57:34,867 Speaker 3: think about who the MVP candidates might. 2322 01:57:34,787 --> 01:57:35,947 Speaker 4: Be or is it too early for that. 2323 01:57:37,107 --> 01:57:39,267 Speaker 22: No, it's never tally mate. So in terms of players 2324 01:57:39,307 --> 01:57:42,147 Speaker 22: boiling out right now and in the MVP narrative are 2325 01:57:42,187 --> 01:57:47,387 Speaker 22: the usual suspects. Last season's MVP okcs kare Gildris Alexander 2326 01:57:47,747 --> 01:57:51,707 Speaker 22: and three times MVP winner Denvers Nicola Jokis. It's a 2327 01:57:51,787 --> 01:57:54,107 Speaker 22: toss up between them both, with Luca Johntrich or the 2328 01:57:54,187 --> 01:57:57,867 Speaker 22: Lakers not far behind. Then Milwaukee Bucks superstars Gianna senter 2329 01:57:57,907 --> 01:58:01,187 Speaker 22: to Compo and Tyrese Maxi from the Philadelphia seventy six 2330 01:58:01,307 --> 01:58:04,467 Speaker 22: is rounding out the top five. Most bidding agencies are 2331 01:58:04,547 --> 01:58:08,067 Speaker 22: leaning towards either Jokis, HGA or don'ts to be League 2332 01:58:08,147 --> 01:58:11,547 Speaker 22: MVP predicated upon this didn't stand healthy throughout the season. 2333 01:58:12,027 --> 01:58:13,467 Speaker 22: Here's the stat of the day I wanted to cheer 2334 01:58:13,547 --> 01:58:17,547 Speaker 22: regarding the Joker. The College Gookis finish were seventeen points, 2335 01:58:17,787 --> 01:58:21,787 Speaker 22: sixteen assists and ten rebounds to a tenth triple double 2336 01:58:21,827 --> 01:58:24,227 Speaker 22: of the season in a recent win, the fastest to 2337 01:58:24,307 --> 01:58:27,267 Speaker 22: reach ten triple doubles in a season in the last 2338 01:58:27,347 --> 01:58:30,147 Speaker 22: forty years. It's crazy to think, Piney that Gokis is 2339 01:58:30,147 --> 01:58:33,107 Speaker 22: almost expected now to average a triple double every time 2340 01:58:33,147 --> 01:58:33,987 Speaker 22: he starts. 2341 01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:35,987 Speaker 4: And he makes it look so easy, and day got 2342 01:58:36,027 --> 01:58:37,547 Speaker 4: it so hard to do it even once. 2343 01:58:38,107 --> 01:58:40,307 Speaker 3: As you say headline as many times, is that I 2344 01:58:40,347 --> 01:58:42,587 Speaker 3: want to move to football to the NFL shortly. But 2345 01:58:42,667 --> 01:58:46,107 Speaker 3: college football the regular season winding down. So who is 2346 01:58:46,147 --> 01:58:48,187 Speaker 3: looking good for the college football playoffs? 2347 01:58:49,107 --> 01:58:51,507 Speaker 22: Yes? So, as you alluded to, college footballs into its 2348 01:58:51,547 --> 01:58:53,587 Speaker 22: final week of the regular season, and a few days 2349 01:58:53,627 --> 01:58:56,547 Speaker 22: ago the latest rankings were released, with the top five 2350 01:58:56,587 --> 01:58:57,587 Speaker 22: pretty much unchanged for. 2351 01:58:57,627 --> 01:58:58,267 Speaker 5: The last month. 2352 01:58:58,667 --> 01:59:02,587 Speaker 22: The College Football Selection Committee leaned towards teams that dominate 2353 01:59:02,667 --> 01:59:04,427 Speaker 22: at the line of scrimmage. They sitting the top of 2354 01:59:04,427 --> 01:59:08,307 Speaker 22: the standings unbeaten on twelve are two teams, the defending 2355 01:59:08,387 --> 01:59:12,987 Speaker 22: national champion Ohio State Buckeyes and the Indiana USIA's, followed 2356 01:59:13,027 --> 01:59:16,347 Speaker 22: closely by the Georgia Bulldogs, Texas A and m Aggie's 2357 01:59:16,387 --> 01:59:18,987 Speaker 22: and Oregon Ducks, and with three other teams on eleven 2358 01:59:19,027 --> 01:59:20,427 Speaker 22: and one rounding out the top five. 2359 01:59:20,787 --> 01:59:20,907 Speaker 5: Now. 2360 01:59:20,947 --> 01:59:22,947 Speaker 22: The schedule for the twenty twenty five to twenty six 2361 01:59:23,027 --> 01:59:26,387 Speaker 22: College Football Playoff Brackett begins in mid to late December. 2362 01:59:26,827 --> 01:59:29,067 Speaker 22: This is the second year the CFP is using a 2363 01:59:29,107 --> 01:59:32,707 Speaker 22: twelve team format. Games are scheduled to start December nineteenth, 2364 01:59:33,027 --> 01:59:36,707 Speaker 22: culminated with the National Championship Game on Monday nineteen, twenty 2365 01:59:36,747 --> 01:59:39,507 Speaker 22: twenty six in Miami Gardens, Florida. For me, it's hard 2366 01:59:39,587 --> 01:59:42,347 Speaker 22: to go past the Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, A and 2367 01:59:42,507 --> 01:59:45,267 Speaker 22: m and Georgia tellift the national trophy as champions pinting. 2368 01:59:45,747 --> 01:59:47,267 Speaker 4: You and I have talked a lotly on about the 2369 01:59:47,467 --> 01:59:51,467 Speaker 4: eye watering money that is around, particularly in coaching roles. 2370 01:59:51,707 --> 01:59:53,627 Speaker 4: There are some elite coaching roles I think to be 2371 01:59:53,707 --> 01:59:54,787 Speaker 4: filled in college football. 2372 01:59:56,027 --> 01:59:58,387 Speaker 22: Yes, off the field and college football, there's still a 2373 01:59:58,467 --> 02:00:01,347 Speaker 22: number of marquee head coaching positions up for grabs, with 2374 02:00:01,507 --> 02:00:04,307 Speaker 22: the top paid coaches in college football now earning close 2375 02:00:04,707 --> 02:00:07,787 Speaker 22: to what the NFL counterparts to. So the top five 2376 02:00:07,867 --> 02:00:12,187 Speaker 22: vacancies at the moment include LSU Florida, then State Arkansas, 2377 02:00:12,227 --> 02:00:15,467 Speaker 22: and UCLA. What with ni on money and boosters, open 2378 02:00:15,587 --> 02:00:19,107 Speaker 22: checkbooks quite often dictate where perspective coaches will land. So 2379 02:00:19,467 --> 02:00:21,787 Speaker 22: in the college ranks, you look at the top coaches, 2380 02:00:21,827 --> 02:00:25,067 Speaker 22: they're getting around twelve to fifteen million dollars, which is 2381 02:00:25,107 --> 02:00:28,507 Speaker 22: equivalent to what the NFL coaches get as goalfinding. 2382 02:00:28,427 --> 02:00:31,187 Speaker 4: Just incredible money. Incredible money to the NFL. 2383 02:00:31,547 --> 02:00:33,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, are Thanksgiving in the week past, of course, and 2384 02:00:34,027 --> 02:00:37,667 Speaker 3: that's always big around NFL circles. Tell us about the 2385 02:00:37,707 --> 02:00:40,547 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day matches that have already occurred and some of 2386 02:00:40,587 --> 02:00:41,907 Speaker 3: the key games tomorrow as well. 2387 02:00:42,787 --> 02:00:43,587 Speaker 4: Yep, So we're now. 2388 02:00:43,587 --> 02:00:46,227 Speaker 22: Into Week thirteen with four games already competed over the 2389 02:00:46,307 --> 02:00:50,147 Speaker 22: Thanksgiving weekend. On Flesksgiving Day alone, last year there are 2390 02:00:50,147 --> 02:00:52,747 Speaker 22: one hundred and forty two million TV viewers, and this 2391 02:00:52,907 --> 02:00:56,507 Speaker 22: year that's expected to be similar numbers or even substantially more. So, 2392 02:00:56,587 --> 02:00:57,987 Speaker 22: we'll have a quick look at some of the key 2393 02:00:58,067 --> 02:01:01,227 Speaker 22: matchups for no less than thirteen games left to salivate 2394 02:01:01,267 --> 02:01:03,787 Speaker 22: over the In the early window, there are seven games. 2395 02:01:04,227 --> 02:01:07,867 Speaker 22: The most compelling matchup is an AFC showdown, with Houston 2396 02:01:07,907 --> 02:01:11,187 Speaker 22: away to Indianapolis. The surprising Colts will look to bounce 2397 02:01:11,267 --> 02:01:13,907 Speaker 22: back from their last game loss, but will be sorely 2398 02:01:13,987 --> 02:01:17,627 Speaker 22: tested against arguably the league's best defense and the Texans, 2399 02:01:17,667 --> 02:01:21,627 Speaker 22: who terrorize reigning MVP Bell's quarterback Josh Allen, sacking them 2400 02:01:21,667 --> 02:01:24,547 Speaker 22: a record eight times last week, the most in his career. 2401 02:01:24,787 --> 02:01:24,907 Speaker 9: Now. 2402 02:01:24,947 --> 02:01:28,147 Speaker 22: Another game of interest early is the Cleveland Browns hosting 2403 02:01:28,187 --> 02:01:31,307 Speaker 22: the San Francisco forty nine Ers, quarterback for the Browns, 2404 02:01:31,347 --> 02:01:33,387 Speaker 22: should do a sand as well as first start last 2405 02:01:33,387 --> 02:01:36,427 Speaker 22: week or be it against the awful Las Vegas Raiders. Now, 2406 02:01:36,467 --> 02:01:38,387 Speaker 22: the forty nine ers will certainly be a big step 2407 02:01:38,467 --> 02:01:40,067 Speaker 22: up for the rookie, but there's a lot of hope 2408 02:01:40,347 --> 02:01:43,587 Speaker 22: for long suffering Cleveland fans that Sanders will be their 2409 02:01:43,627 --> 02:01:46,347 Speaker 22: missing piece. And there's still one of only four teams 2410 02:01:46,387 --> 02:01:48,307 Speaker 22: to never play in the Super Bowl. I feel that 2411 02:01:48,387 --> 02:01:50,547 Speaker 22: Cleveland need to build their roster up front on the 2412 02:01:50,627 --> 02:01:52,587 Speaker 22: offensive line of the ball, and they're still a few 2413 02:01:52,667 --> 02:01:54,387 Speaker 22: years away from making a playoff appearance. 2414 02:01:55,907 --> 02:01:58,667 Speaker 3: I just want to move quickly to the Chiefs, the 2415 02:01:58,747 --> 02:02:01,667 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs before we knock it on the head. Lyon, 2416 02:02:02,227 --> 02:02:05,827 Speaker 3: is there dinasty overall? I see they're basically they're basically 2417 02:02:05,867 --> 02:02:09,427 Speaker 3: six and six one six losses that eight championship winning material? 2418 02:02:09,547 --> 02:02:14,027 Speaker 22: Is it yes day? Surprising? M Kansas City Chiefs dump 2419 02:02:14,107 --> 02:02:17,027 Speaker 22: into the last three Super Bowls. Now, they currently, as 2420 02:02:17,107 --> 02:02:19,227 Speaker 22: you said, have a five hundred records six and six 2421 02:02:19,307 --> 02:02:21,347 Speaker 22: and will have to run what they call run the 2422 02:02:21,427 --> 02:02:24,627 Speaker 22: table after any chance of making the postseason. So in 2423 02:02:24,787 --> 02:02:26,947 Speaker 22: their remaining schedule they have a good chance to win 2424 02:02:27,067 --> 02:02:30,347 Speaker 22: all five with three harder matchups at home and two 2425 02:02:30,427 --> 02:02:34,027 Speaker 22: easy road games. Since Patrick Mahomes began the starting quarterback 2426 02:02:34,107 --> 02:02:37,387 Speaker 22: for Kansas City in twenty eighteen, he's led the team 2427 02:02:37,467 --> 02:02:41,467 Speaker 22: to an unprecedented seven straight AFC Championship games, which has 2428 02:02:41,547 --> 02:02:44,067 Speaker 22: never been done before on the Super Bowl era. It 2429 02:02:44,107 --> 02:02:47,107 Speaker 22: looks like the dynasty may finally be over though, or 2430 02:02:47,147 --> 02:02:48,987 Speaker 22: on hold at least for the meantime. But with head 2431 02:02:49,027 --> 02:02:52,067 Speaker 22: coach Andy Reid still at the helm and myhome's under center, 2432 02:02:52,667 --> 02:02:55,547 Speaker 22: let's not throw dirt on their proverbial grave. Just step finding. 2433 02:02:55,627 --> 02:02:58,387 Speaker 3: Thanks me o mate, oh Leon, It's always a pleasure 2434 02:02:58,427 --> 02:03:03,627 Speaker 3: to have your analysis, your expertise, your wide ranging insight 2435 02:03:03,707 --> 02:03:05,707 Speaker 3: into u as sport. Thanks so much in date, Leon 2436 02:03:05,747 --> 02:03:09,107 Speaker 3: bosbyt e side our US sports expert here on Weekend 2437 02:03:09,147 --> 02:03:10,547 Speaker 3: Sport eights away from. 2438 02:03:10,427 --> 02:03:14,667 Speaker 1: Three, breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fields 2439 02:03:16,267 --> 02:03:19,907 Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason hin News talk as Envy. 2440 02:03:20,347 --> 02:03:23,027 Speaker 4: Five to three. That's pretty much us for the afternoon. 2441 02:03:23,147 --> 02:03:26,027 Speaker 3: Just a very quick check back on the golf and 2442 02:03:26,147 --> 02:03:29,187 Speaker 3: Brisbane Kazumi Kerbori even path through four holes. He's twelve 2443 02:03:29,267 --> 02:03:31,147 Speaker 3: under for the tournament. The leader though now is David 2444 02:03:31,227 --> 02:03:34,907 Speaker 3: Puig out of Spain. He is two under through three holes, 2445 02:03:34,987 --> 02:03:37,467 Speaker 3: fifteen under for the tournament now so lo scoring. Nick 2446 02:03:37,467 --> 02:03:40,107 Speaker 3: Focus one under through six holes, eleven under for the 2447 02:03:40,147 --> 02:03:42,947 Speaker 3: tournament and Daniel Hilly are won over through five holes 2448 02:03:42,947 --> 02:03:45,227 Speaker 3: today he is ten unders, so still plenty of time 2449 02:03:45,307 --> 02:03:48,547 Speaker 3: for them to make their moves. Thank you so much 2450 02:03:48,587 --> 02:03:50,347 Speaker 3: for listening in across the weekend. It's been a great 2451 02:03:50,387 --> 02:03:53,827 Speaker 3: pleasure as always bringing Weekend Sport to you, Tom Beverage 2452 02:03:53,867 --> 02:03:57,067 Speaker 3: after three huge thanks to Andy McDonald four putting the 2453 02:03:57,107 --> 02:03:57,747 Speaker 3: shows together. 2454 02:03:57,787 --> 02:04:00,387 Speaker 4: Thanks mate. Enjoy a couple of hours of relaxation. 2455 02:04:00,467 --> 02:04:03,267 Speaker 3: We're back tomorrow night on Sports Talk where hopefully we'll 2456 02:04:03,267 --> 02:04:06,147 Speaker 3: be able to bring you news of Liam Lawson's confirmation 2457 02:04:06,747 --> 02:04:09,307 Speaker 3: for the racing ball seat next year and other bits 2458 02:04:09,307 --> 02:04:12,467 Speaker 3: and pieces as well. Taking us out today well, given 2459 02:04:12,507 --> 02:04:15,267 Speaker 3: the fact that tomorrow, the first of December marks the 2460 02:04:15,307 --> 02:04:18,507 Speaker 3: first day of summer, it's been a kid rock taking 2461 02:04:18,587 --> 02:04:20,907 Speaker 3: us out. Let's hope it's a long, hot summer that 2462 02:04:21,067 --> 02:04:23,347 Speaker 3: we can enjoy all summer long. 2463 02:04:23,467 --> 02:04:24,267 Speaker 4: Seemor night. 2464 02:04:28,587 --> 02:04:37,827 Speaker 3: Beckoning Alabama, sumer sing Alabama, our. 2465 02:04:37,827 --> 02:04:40,307 Speaker 4: Summer Live singing. 2466 02:04:56,507 --> 02:04:59,667 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 2467 02:04:59,787 --> 02:05:03,067 Speaker 1: to news Talk Said B weekends from midday, or follow 2468 02:05:03,107 --> 02:05:04,667 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio