WEBVTT - Greg Pain: Best and worst exercise trends 0:00:05.721 --> 0:00:09.361 You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks 0:00:42.881 --> 0:00:45.521 and welcome back to the show. This is the Weekend Collective. 0:00:45.681 --> 0:00:47.401 If you, by the way, from this any of Politics 0:00:47.401 --> 0:00:48.881 Central you want to catch in the interviews that you 0:00:48.881 --> 0:00:50.161 heard a little bit and your thought, hang, I wouldn't 0:00:50.201 --> 0:00:51.441 mind hearing a bit more of that. Go and check 0:00:51.441 --> 0:00:54.481 out the podcast on the on iHeartRadio. Go to the 0:00:54.481 --> 0:00:57.601 News Talks website look for the Weekend Collective. Right now, 0:00:57.961 --> 0:01:00.521 let's get physical. There's a reason we're playing that tune, 0:01:00.681 --> 0:01:03.201 not only because I mean, who doesn't love you love 0:01:03.241 --> 0:01:06.201 a little bit of Olivia neutron bomb as we used 0:01:06.241 --> 0:01:07.801 to call it when I was growing up, because I 0:01:07.801 --> 0:01:09.481 think it was Xanadu that did my head, and with 0:01:09.521 --> 0:01:14.201 Olivia Newton John anyway, Greece for others. But anyway, by 0:01:14.241 --> 0:01:15.761 the way, I did pre sell that it was going 0:01:15.801 --> 0:01:17.401 to be Alex Flint in the studio, and there actually 0:01:17.441 --> 0:01:20.281 was a studio, a mistake on our part on the 0:01:20.561 --> 0:01:24.041 on the scheduling, and because Alex is in Australia and 0:01:24.321 --> 0:01:26.361 this is just a mark of the man who has 0:01:26.441 --> 0:01:28.601 come in because he was scheduled for this week. But 0:01:28.881 --> 0:01:33.201 we told him and he literally he could have just 0:01:33.441 --> 0:01:35.321 called in and phoned it in, as they say, but 0:01:35.361 --> 0:01:37.961 he was like, no, no, I'm coming into the studio. 0:01:38.281 --> 0:01:41.441 He finished wind surfing off the of the Koemarrama Beach 0:01:41.441 --> 0:01:45.401 because it's a windy darp hair and he's his name 0:01:45.561 --> 0:01:49.281 is from BioSport dot cod at Enz, Greg Pain. Good day, Greg, 0:01:49.321 --> 0:01:49.881 how are you? 0:01:49.961 --> 0:01:50.161 Oh? 0:01:50.241 --> 0:01:52.801 I'm good. I feel better for actually being here and 0:01:52.841 --> 0:01:55.041 sitting down and making it on time because i'd get 0:01:55.481 --> 0:01:57.601 I got my grandmother's gina hate being late. 0:01:57.841 --> 0:01:59.801 Yeah, well, I mean you would have had an excuse 0:02:01.201 --> 0:02:04.001 we hadn't told you. But I was thinking of you 0:02:04.001 --> 0:02:05.921 today because I went for sweam. I'm at Koe Beach 0:02:06.241 --> 0:02:09.361 because I started when we had a holiday. I used 0:02:09.361 --> 0:02:11.841 to go for a dip and I managed to keep 0:02:11.841 --> 0:02:14.361 it up just about every day. And it was windy 0:02:14.401 --> 0:02:18.201 as all hell, and there was someone hurtling in on 0:02:18.201 --> 0:02:20.761 one of those kite sort of surfers, and I was 0:02:20.801 --> 0:02:22.961 looking at him thinking, is he coming in and he's 0:02:23.001 --> 0:02:25.121 going to turn around where my head is right now, 0:02:25.481 --> 0:02:27.401 or is he actually coming in to settle? And I 0:02:27.401 --> 0:02:28.601 was thinking, that's not Greek painter. 0:02:28.921 --> 0:02:30.201 If it was a black and white, if it was 0:02:30.241 --> 0:02:31.521 a black and white kite. It was me. 0:02:32.241 --> 0:02:34.241 No, it wasn't you. That wasn't you, because he got 0:02:34.241 --> 0:02:37.081 close enough that I would have recognized him nicely. 0:02:37.121 --> 0:02:40.201 Out we have an issue or a lot of beaches 0:02:40.281 --> 0:02:45.121 have problems with wind surfers, foilers and the lake around swimmers. 0:02:45.161 --> 0:02:46.921 So I don't tend to come into the beach unless 0:02:46.921 --> 0:02:47.721 I'm coming in, so. 0:02:47.801 --> 0:02:49.361 Actually would be a problem with the ones who are 0:02:49.401 --> 0:02:51.081 doing a bit of distant swimming heading out to a 0:02:51.081 --> 0:02:52.961 boil bag. I have we seen them that. 0:02:52.921 --> 0:02:56.081 Eas I've counted swimmers and you know, one hundred and 0:02:56.081 --> 0:02:58.641 two hundred meters outside the yellow markers, which for those 0:02:58.641 --> 0:03:01.161 in Auckland, that's a five not zone, so they're outside 0:03:01.161 --> 0:03:04.081 of that, not wearing any bright colored caps or anything. 0:03:04.321 --> 0:03:07.121 I have nearly a swimmer with a white cap on 0:03:07.601 --> 0:03:09.921 well outside the zone. So you've got to be a bit. 0:03:09.761 --> 0:03:13.041 Careful actually, because you have to sort of break the 0:03:13.081 --> 0:03:16.961 five knot rule anyway, because otherwise you're not Yeah. 0:03:17.041 --> 0:03:18.881 Also, I'm on the foil, so you need to be 0:03:19.001 --> 0:03:20.361 on the foil to stare properly. 0:03:20.401 --> 0:03:22.481 So how fast you're going on the foil. 0:03:23.041 --> 0:03:27.041 At a bare minimum probably eight knots, but to stay 0:03:27.081 --> 0:03:28.081 that slow as hard. 0:03:28.361 --> 0:03:29.921 So but I mean you get on the four, you 0:03:29.921 --> 0:03:30.961 get fifteen twenty. 0:03:31.041 --> 0:03:32.641 Yeah, you get straight out to see and you stay 0:03:32.681 --> 0:03:32.961 out there. 0:03:33.321 --> 0:03:36.041 It makes you realize how incredible those America's Cup and 0:03:36.081 --> 0:03:39.721 the sale GP YOLTSA aren't they want forty five fifty knots? 0:03:40.161 --> 0:03:41.761 Oh my goodness, that's one hundred kilometers. 0:03:41.841 --> 0:03:44.001 Now anyway, hey, look, we want to take your cause 0:03:44.121 --> 0:03:46.481 and we get Look, you're welcome to call up because 0:03:46.521 --> 0:03:51.841 one of the Gregg's expertise is whose erbra is his 0:03:52.321 --> 0:03:58.441 masterpiece in sports biomechanists by mechanics is the art of 0:03:58.561 --> 0:04:01.561 running and preventing injuries and getting into it. And if 0:04:01.561 --> 0:04:03.761 you've listened to us serve a chat with Greg on 0:04:03.841 --> 0:04:06.481 the show, you know that his philosophy is that, you know, 0:04:06.561 --> 0:04:09.001 most people can run. People say I can't run, and 0:04:09.041 --> 0:04:10.561 then they go in have a session with Greg or 0:04:10.561 --> 0:04:12.401 they find out actually what they're doing wrong, and they go, 0:04:12.481 --> 0:04:15.161 I can run. It's actually not as bad as I thought. Now, 0:04:15.241 --> 0:04:17.921 But before we get into it, I wanted to get 0:04:17.961 --> 0:04:23.321 into the worst ever exercise trends that have ever existed, 0:04:23.361 --> 0:04:27.081 which was why we played Let's Get Physical from a 0:04:27.121 --> 0:04:29.521 Living Newton John. Of course, I think that was around 0:04:29.521 --> 0:04:31.881 the time of jazzus size. And I wouldn't say that 0:04:31.961 --> 0:04:34.881 jazzus size was a bad exercise trend. It was just 0:04:35.241 --> 0:04:36.521 as a fashion trend. 0:04:36.881 --> 0:04:42.841 The leg warmers, oh yeah, the competitive aerobics, the workouts 0:04:42.841 --> 0:04:46.321 that you would see on TV. Super athletes, Yeah, remarkable people. 0:04:46.361 --> 0:04:49.161 But that's what that was. Really the birth of what 0:04:49.201 --> 0:04:52.481 we modern aerobics really wasn't doing jazzus sides, except well, 0:04:52.521 --> 0:04:53.481 maybe a bit more dancing. 0:04:53.641 --> 0:04:56.881 Was that would have come out of the calisthenics history, 0:04:56.921 --> 0:04:58.241 you know, when they used to do the push ups, 0:04:58.241 --> 0:05:00.161 the burpees, all that sort of stuff back in the 0:05:00.201 --> 0:05:03.521 fifties and sixties. I think Calisthenics was, you know what 0:05:03.601 --> 0:05:06.521 exercise really was for most p people because I was thinking. 0:05:06.241 --> 0:05:09.201 Of the outfits as being something that we could reflect on. 0:05:09.281 --> 0:05:11.321 But it really it does tie into all those other 0:05:11.361 --> 0:05:14.721 sort of trends as the worst ever trends we've seen. 0:05:14.921 --> 0:05:17.561 And there, of course we all remember in the infomercials 0:05:17.561 --> 0:05:20.001 for the Bullworker. I think we've talked about that a 0:05:20.001 --> 0:05:22.441 bit on the ab circle pro and there was the 0:05:22.481 --> 0:05:24.401 one where you pull it apart. It was with lots 0:05:24.401 --> 0:05:28.321 of bands either one two, three, four or five springs 0:05:28.321 --> 0:05:30.921 you'd pull that apart, which is probably actually as one 0:05:31.001 --> 0:05:35.441 single machine. But is there a particular exercise trend that 0:05:35.521 --> 0:05:40.041 you think was probably the most useless that was actually 0:05:40.041 --> 0:05:42.641 for a while part of our sort of consciousness. 0:05:44.081 --> 0:05:50.281 I think anything that historically involved vibrating to lose to 0:05:50.361 --> 0:05:54.121 lose fat fur ten years like, you might need to. 0:05:54.321 --> 0:05:56.361 Narrow that down a bit. Not an exercise front. 0:05:56.401 --> 0:06:00.641 Okay, the belts that you would see around your tummy 0:06:00.681 --> 0:06:03.881 that would vibrate and supposedly lose out a post tissue, 0:06:03.881 --> 0:06:04.961 which is the technical turn. 0:06:05.921 --> 0:06:08.441 So you see someone standing on a machine, but there's 0:06:08.441 --> 0:06:11.001 a big belt around their middle and it's shaking the 0:06:11.801 --> 0:06:12.361 hell out of them. 0:06:12.401 --> 0:06:13.441 Absolute waste of time. 0:06:13.881 --> 0:06:16.801 I've seen a description of that as basically a machines 0:06:16.841 --> 0:06:19.961 promising weight lift but lost by shaking your body fat 0:06:19.961 --> 0:06:23.401 into oblivion. And the spoiler was they did absolutely nothing 0:06:23.761 --> 0:06:26.321 except to jiggle you around like a human milkshake. 0:06:27.801 --> 0:06:30.001 The only thing you would say is that because you're 0:06:30.041 --> 0:06:32.801 actually being proactive and doing something, and we do know 0:06:32.841 --> 0:06:35.801 the placebo effect is typically around about thirty percent. Now, 0:06:35.801 --> 0:06:38.281 whether that's going to actually help you burn fat, I 0:06:38.321 --> 0:06:42.041 don't know, but the placebo effect is a big one 0:06:42.081 --> 0:06:44.321 and pretty much anything and also and you want to 0:06:44.321 --> 0:06:45.001 get people. 0:06:44.801 --> 0:06:49.201 Started actually with exercise, the placebo effect is always there though, 0:06:49.201 --> 0:06:52.121 because for sure, for instance, I've been doing a weights raging. 0:06:52.201 --> 0:06:55.761 I'm back at the gym again, having got a program 0:06:55.761 --> 0:06:59.481 which doesn't keep me there all day. And I now, 0:06:59.521 --> 0:07:01.001 if I get out of the shower and I catch 0:07:01.041 --> 0:07:03.281 myself in the mirror, I'm sure there's a placebo effect 0:07:03.321 --> 0:07:07.721 that I look at myself and God. 0:07:06.561 --> 0:07:08.921 Going on to beverage. Not that I've seen you coming 0:07:08.961 --> 0:07:10.761 out of the shower, but. 0:07:10.881 --> 0:07:13.761 Well we're on the second floor. That would us strange, 0:07:13.881 --> 0:07:15.201 who's that out the window? Clean? 0:07:15.641 --> 0:07:18.001 Placebo effect is huge. I mean, there are so many 0:07:18.041 --> 0:07:23.081 even in today's health market, whether you're seeing someone like me, 0:07:23.161 --> 0:07:25.481 you're a physio or an osteo or a cairo, A 0:07:25.481 --> 0:07:28.601 lot of the stuff is there is a placebo effect there. 0:07:28.601 --> 0:07:30.881 And I don't mean to offend physios, osteo's or cairos, 0:07:30.921 --> 0:07:33.281 because I mean we know that even what I do 0:07:33.841 --> 0:07:38.201 when it comes to analyzing gait or prescribing courstability stuff, 0:07:38.561 --> 0:07:42.241 the evidence is changing so fast that it's all moving. 0:07:42.361 --> 0:07:44.601 Actually, it's probably a bit harsh to say the placebo 0:07:44.601 --> 0:07:47.641 effect of feeling good after exercise and doing it, because actually, 0:07:47.681 --> 0:07:49.841 if you do see any sort of improvement, it's the 0:07:49.881 --> 0:07:52.121 fact that you are doing something for sure, and you 0:07:52.161 --> 0:07:54.121 are more willing to think that there are results. But 0:07:54.281 --> 0:07:55.641 there is a feel good factor of the fact you 0:07:55.681 --> 0:07:57.801 are exercising. I mean, that's one of the things that 0:07:57.881 --> 0:07:58.481 keeps you going. 0:07:58.521 --> 0:08:01.401 The feel good factor is not likely to be placebo. 0:08:01.601 --> 0:08:05.001 It's the effect that the actual physical effect or perceive 0:08:05.201 --> 0:08:07.321 physical effect that you get out of whatever it is 0:08:07.321 --> 0:08:07.881 that you're doing. 0:08:08.281 --> 0:08:10.601 I've got somebod who's texted a suggestion on the worst 0:08:10.641 --> 0:08:15.121 of exercise trend and I think that they are one 0:08:15.241 --> 0:08:20.281 hundred percent wrong because what she has suggested is an 0:08:20.321 --> 0:08:25.441 exercise which, in fact I've heard being argued as the 0:08:25.481 --> 0:08:30.081 best core stability exercise. And so gay thinks that planking 0:08:30.241 --> 0:08:32.641 is the worst ever trend, and I would say that 0:08:32.641 --> 0:08:35.281 planking is actually one of the better ones, isn't it. 0:08:35.361 --> 0:08:37.321 Am I allowed to disagree with you on aim? Oh? 0:08:37.361 --> 0:08:41.241 No, okay, yes, it's highly overrated. What's wrong with the plank? 0:08:41.401 --> 0:08:43.961 It's static for a start, and I could demonstrate. I 0:08:43.961 --> 0:08:45.521 could get down on the floor in the studio and 0:08:45.561 --> 0:08:48.521 demonstrate a plank and not use my core abs at all. 0:08:48.761 --> 0:08:52.561 It guarantees nothing, and we don't lie, and we don't 0:08:52.721 --> 0:08:53.961 have an a stet. We're gonna Are we gonna have 0:08:53.961 --> 0:08:54.401 an argument? 0:08:54.521 --> 0:08:57.761 No? No, as one of the thing is actually I'm 0:08:57.801 --> 0:09:00.721 aware of that I do in one of my works workouts, 0:09:00.761 --> 0:09:04.121 I do three one minute planks. But the thing is, 0:09:04.681 --> 0:09:07.081 it's a possible I think at a certain point when 0:09:07.081 --> 0:09:08.921 you shift around that all of a sudden you're not 0:09:09.001 --> 0:09:12.281 static because it only takes a little bit of especially 0:09:12.281 --> 0:09:13.441 if it's the end of your workout, you do a 0:09:13.481 --> 0:09:15.201 bit of breathing, you're shifting around, and all of a 0:09:15.241 --> 0:09:19.281 sudden you're not stable, and then it becomes and because 0:09:19.441 --> 0:09:21.281 I mean, I think I've passed you an article with 0:09:21.321 --> 0:09:25.121 Anne Hathaway her trainer doing and I think her planking. 0:09:24.721 --> 0:09:27.201 Involves toe taps to the hot toe. 0:09:27.681 --> 0:09:30.761 That's not static. Does that make a difference to the plank. 0:09:30.921 --> 0:09:35.241 Well, I mean yes, but we live in a dynamic world, okay. 0:09:35.361 --> 0:09:38.801 And an old client to mine, she was I think 0:09:38.801 --> 0:09:41.481 she's just retired, but she's an obstetric guyiny surgeon, and 0:09:41.521 --> 0:09:43.521 she would always say to me, doing a plank for 0:09:43.561 --> 0:09:45.401 longer than thirty seconds is a waste of time for 0:09:45.401 --> 0:09:48.921 a start, because a big part of your core stability 0:09:49.001 --> 0:09:51.881 and I've just released a free course online for this anyway, 0:09:52.241 --> 0:09:56.401 we'll plug that later. One of the key so cour 0:09:56.441 --> 0:10:00.121 stability at a fundamental level is building barometric pressure inside 0:10:00.161 --> 0:10:03.921 your abdominal cavity. Now, to build barometric pressure, you need 0:10:03.961 --> 0:10:06.921 to use your pelvic floor. Men and women have a 0:10:07.001 --> 0:10:07.641 pelvil four. 0:10:08.281 --> 0:10:11.161 Now, how come I get knackered when I'm doing a 0:10:11.161 --> 0:10:13.561 plank then and there's a bit where it gives out 0:10:13.601 --> 0:10:16.401 and my muscles, I start to go look at really hard. 0:10:16.401 --> 0:10:18.281 I mean, I could possibly try and do a bit 0:10:18.281 --> 0:10:20.521 of broadcasting in a plank position and we can witness 0:10:20.561 --> 0:10:22.481 when it runs out. I'm very tempted to do that 0:10:22.601 --> 0:10:23.601 just to embarrass myself. 0:10:23.641 --> 0:10:25.961 But you're still using muscles to hold a position. But 0:10:26.001 --> 0:10:28.241 at a fundamental level, what you're trying to achieve is 0:10:28.241 --> 0:10:30.521 the management of pelvic tilt, so how are your palvis 0:10:30.641 --> 0:10:33.121 rotates in space, but also making sure that you're using 0:10:33.161 --> 0:10:36.641 the correct muscles at a level it's appropriate for that position. 0:10:37.001 --> 0:10:38.841 So if you can do a plank, that's awesome, But 0:10:39.001 --> 0:10:41.841 take that skill set and that strength to a more dynamic, 0:10:42.001 --> 0:10:46.081 upright vibrant exercise prescription. 0:10:46.361 --> 0:10:52.001 Okay, because I'm happy to bow to your expertise. But 0:10:52.161 --> 0:10:53.881 it does feel that when I've done my planks that 0:10:53.881 --> 0:10:55.521 I've had a pretty good abdominable workout. 0:10:55.681 --> 0:10:59.241 Yeah, oh for sure, because you've got layers of abdominal muscles, 0:10:59.281 --> 0:11:03.321 so you're using them all probably, But no, no, no, 0:11:03.401 --> 0:11:05.321 because what I'm trying to say so that sounds or 0:11:05.441 --> 0:11:09.321 exercise is trying to get at a fundamental level, the lowest, 0:11:09.561 --> 0:11:13.561 the deepest layer working progress correctly. Can you extrapolate that? 0:11:13.641 --> 0:11:15.601 But it's not the worst, it's not the worst ever 0:11:15.641 --> 0:11:16.401 exercise trend? 0:11:16.401 --> 0:11:18.801 Then it absolutely not. But again, you can do a 0:11:18.801 --> 0:11:19.281 plank and not. 0:11:19.441 --> 0:11:20.921 I don't have to run this past our ex fluent 0:11:21.001 --> 0:11:23.321 because he's got me doing it. Actually, that's just one 0:11:23.321 --> 0:11:26.601 of them. There's far more painful abdominal exercise. I think 0:11:26.601 --> 0:11:28.121 I like that one because if I get it right, 0:11:28.281 --> 0:11:30.081 I can handle it for at least twenty seconds before 0:11:30.121 --> 0:11:34.601 the pain sets in. Should I try broadcasting while I'm 0:11:34.601 --> 0:11:36.641 doing a plank? That's the question I should look out 0:11:36.641 --> 0:11:40.521 after during the break, because in terms of the worst 0:11:40.561 --> 0:11:44.641 ever exercise trends, I will share some with our audience 0:11:44.681 --> 0:11:46.761 as well, and you can add your thoughts on it 0:11:46.801 --> 0:11:50.121 as well. So I don't think I think planking is unfair. 0:11:51.281 --> 0:11:54.081 You mentioned you thought eight minute abs was a bit rubbishy. 0:11:54.681 --> 0:11:58.681 Well, anything that involves just doing crunches as a tool 0:11:58.841 --> 0:12:01.601 to try and make your abs look better as a 0:12:01.641 --> 0:12:04.281 waste of time, because whether you can or cannot see 0:12:04.441 --> 0:12:08.401 your six is relative to how much fat you have. 0:12:08.921 --> 0:12:11.281 But as I was sort of sort of suggesting before, 0:12:12.001 --> 0:12:14.601 your six pack is not at a fundamental level part 0:12:14.641 --> 0:12:17.321 of your core, So overtraining that is not going to 0:12:17.321 --> 0:12:18.841 have a positive effect on your posture. 0:12:18.961 --> 0:12:21.561 The one that struck stuck with me was the thigh 0:12:21.641 --> 0:12:25.481 Master as well. You might remember Suzanne Summer's popularized it. 0:12:26.121 --> 0:12:29.041 I'm quite keen on the prances sise prancercise. 0:12:29.121 --> 0:12:30.361 Who was heard of pranciscise? 0:12:30.521 --> 0:12:32.401 But you was that young lady that went viral a 0:12:32.441 --> 0:12:36.321 few not a mixture between Basically you're you're holding onto 0:12:36.361 --> 0:12:38.561 like a broomstick that looks like a horse and you're prancing. 0:12:38.641 --> 0:12:41.961 Oh it's a mixture of power walking and prancing like 0:12:41.961 --> 0:12:42.481 a horse. 0:12:43.001 --> 0:12:46.241 See I see benefit in that if prancing is basically polymetrics. 0:12:46.281 --> 0:12:47.641 So if you've got to hold onto a horse to 0:12:47.681 --> 0:12:48.481 do it, you go for it. 0:12:48.521 --> 0:12:49.561 Wasn't it just like skipping? 0:12:49.761 --> 0:12:50.681 But yeah, which is great? 0:12:50.681 --> 0:12:52.281 Would you be better to run or skip? 0:12:53.001 --> 0:12:55.161 You would be you'd want to start skipping before you 0:12:55.201 --> 0:12:59.081 start running. Skipping is one of the most underrated exercises. 0:12:59.241 --> 0:13:02.841 That is quite a hard self for someone who wants 0:13:02.881 --> 0:13:06.601 to take up running. I can't imagine myself skipping around 0:13:06.681 --> 0:13:09.121 Tammocky Drive as a way to get into. 0:13:09.361 --> 0:13:12.641 Did in the privacy of your own backyard, Timothy, But. 0:13:13.921 --> 0:13:17.241 Where are we going skipping? Look, we'd love to take 0:13:17.241 --> 0:13:18.321 your course if you want to give us a call 0:13:18.401 --> 0:13:21.281 on this. What is the worst exercise trend that you 0:13:21.401 --> 0:13:24.921 have followed or actually is? Then the other question is 0:13:24.921 --> 0:13:27.081 is there no such thing as a bad exercise trend? 0:13:27.121 --> 0:13:30.081 Because anything that gets you on the wag on the 0:13:30.681 --> 0:13:34.361 on the conveyable of exercising leads to other things. So, 0:13:34.521 --> 0:13:37.081 for instance, you might have started off doing something well 0:13:37.561 --> 0:13:39.481 barefoot running. Now there's one. 0:13:40.401 --> 0:13:42.201 Highly controversial sing Sola Bud. 0:13:42.801 --> 0:13:45.801 I'll remember her getting spiked by Mary Decker or something. 0:13:46.161 --> 0:13:48.641 I'm not too sure. Barefoot running is a very very 0:13:50.241 --> 0:13:51.961 contentious subject because. 0:13:51.681 --> 0:13:53.721 That came up in a bit of an AI search 0:13:53.761 --> 0:13:55.841 I did on terrible exercise. I don't mind saying I 0:13:55.841 --> 0:13:57.321 didn't do a bit of an AI thing. I thought 0:13:57.521 --> 0:14:00.641 AI tell us the worst of exercise trends. But the 0:14:00.761 --> 0:14:02.841 vibrating brought machine was the first one that came up with. 0:14:02.881 --> 0:14:05.001 I've got to say spot on with that one, wasn't it? 0:14:05.041 --> 0:14:05.561 Absolutely well? 0:14:05.601 --> 0:14:07.921 What's the story with barefoot running then, because there will 0:14:07.961 --> 0:14:10.681 be those who will think because we're not running in 0:14:10.761 --> 0:14:14.001 a natural environment, they'll be well as cavemen were used 0:14:14.041 --> 0:14:16.481 to run, of course when we were hunting. But of 0:14:16.481 --> 0:14:19.121 course we're running on the ground and in the forest 0:14:19.161 --> 0:14:22.081 and over grasslands which had a natural cushioning to them, 0:14:22.081 --> 0:14:22.881 I guess for sure. 0:14:23.041 --> 0:14:25.481 So some people's feet are designed to run bear feet 0:14:25.561 --> 0:14:28.201 and you still see people running and say the Vibrant 0:14:28.241 --> 0:14:30.401 five fingers, those little sort of sock like shoes that 0:14:30.441 --> 0:14:32.921 you would see people running around in. And they were 0:14:32.921 --> 0:14:36.161 actually sued in the US and they lost for claims 0:14:36.201 --> 0:14:41.241 that wearing the vibrant five fingers would reduce any injuries 0:14:41.241 --> 0:14:43.681 that you might be having with your running as well proven. 0:14:43.441 --> 0:14:46.521 There wearing the Vibrum five fingers just sounds fairly wrong. Anyway, 0:14:46.561 --> 0:14:47.121 doesn't it. 0:14:47.161 --> 0:14:48.681 I mean, there are a number of people that can 0:14:48.721 --> 0:14:51.601 get away with it. All depends on your foot structure. 0:14:52.241 --> 0:14:53.561 A lot of people can get away with it, a 0:14:53.561 --> 0:14:55.441 lot of people can injuries. 0:14:55.521 --> 0:14:57.961 What about the toning shoes craze there was in two thousands, 0:14:57.961 --> 0:15:01.641 there were I think it was browds like sketches they took. 0:15:01.681 --> 0:15:04.001 They said their wobbly soules would tone your legs and 0:15:04.041 --> 0:15:07.721 but just by walking. Turns out they were uncomfortable and 0:15:07.761 --> 0:15:10.121 effective and led to lawsuits for false advertising. 0:15:10.281 --> 0:15:12.601 Well because of the rocket, because they were really curved. 0:15:12.641 --> 0:15:15.601 They will certainly make your calves work. I can't see 0:15:15.601 --> 0:15:17.721 how it's going to make your butt work. Will turn 0:15:17.801 --> 0:15:21.281 your butt just by walking. But also the curvature of 0:15:21.281 --> 0:15:24.481 the shoe takes away the structure within the arch of 0:15:24.521 --> 0:15:26.001 the foot. So the rate you're going to be doing 0:15:26.081 --> 0:15:26.521 damage to. 0:15:26.441 --> 0:15:30.001 Your feet, yeah, well obviously that they come up under 0:15:30.041 --> 0:15:33.481 the list of dodgy exercising number. Have you ever fallen 0:15:33.521 --> 0:15:36.881 for a trend when you look back and you go, oh, okay, 0:15:36.881 --> 0:15:38.401 I got into that for a while, or. 0:15:38.681 --> 0:15:40.441 I think I think the one thing that I if 0:15:40.441 --> 0:15:42.321 I was to look back over my career and say 0:15:42.321 --> 0:15:45.841 that now we don't get caught up on anywhere near 0:15:45.841 --> 0:15:49.401 as much as this whole imbalances stuff. You know, your 0:15:49.681 --> 0:15:52.681 pelvis is out two degrees here, or you know you're 0:15:53.641 --> 0:15:55.921 you know, this is slightly different because in the world 0:15:55.961 --> 0:15:58.201 that we live in, being how I sit and how 0:15:58.241 --> 0:16:00.041 you sit, and how you drive and how you walk 0:16:00.081 --> 0:16:01.841 and how you do everything, there's always going to be 0:16:01.841 --> 0:16:02.481 an imbalance. 0:16:02.601 --> 0:16:05.201 So the natural asymmetry of a human body is not 0:16:05.281 --> 0:16:07.321 something that necessarily needs diagnosis type of thing. 0:16:07.401 --> 0:16:09.081 If you're in if you're in a sort of sport, 0:16:09.161 --> 0:16:11.641 So kayaking is a great sport, A great example of this, 0:16:11.681 --> 0:16:13.721 would I say, because it's just so complex. If you 0:16:13.761 --> 0:16:15.561 have an imbalanced it's something you want to try and 0:16:15.601 --> 0:16:18.681 manage because it's such an unstable environment. But if you're 0:16:18.681 --> 0:16:22.321 looking at running or cycling or swimming, then imbalances are 0:16:22.361 --> 0:16:24.841 just things that you need to be conscious of and 0:16:24.881 --> 0:16:28.081 not get progressively worse, but not plus excessive amount of 0:16:28.161 --> 0:16:30.761 value on because there's no such thing as a perfectly 0:16:30.801 --> 0:16:31.641 balanced pelvis. 0:16:31.801 --> 0:16:36.121 Well, I was thinking examples would be in the modern 0:16:36.121 --> 0:16:40.241 sporting world would be tennis players and golfers. Sure anything 0:16:40.281 --> 0:16:44.601 where you are do they as a result of their 0:16:44.641 --> 0:16:49.761 sport being asymmetric. Do they actually have to do exercises 0:16:50.001 --> 0:16:53.321 to try and mitigate getting out of whack? 0:16:53.601 --> 0:16:56.481 Yes they should. Are they an old client to mine? 0:16:56.641 --> 0:16:59.721 Not old. A recent client of mine was in the 0:16:59.761 --> 0:17:03.041 New Zealand women's hockey squad. And hockey sticks are always 0:17:03.161 --> 0:17:06.081 right right handed. There's no such things tended hockey stick. 0:17:06.401 --> 0:17:06.681 Yeah. 0:17:06.721 --> 0:17:08.801 And so because of the fact that all the years 0:17:08.801 --> 0:17:11.241 that she played hockey and would swing primarily to the right, 0:17:11.921 --> 0:17:13.361 she had a little bit of a shift in her 0:17:13.361 --> 0:17:15.121 mid spine, which was due to the fact that there 0:17:15.161 --> 0:17:17.321 was such a strong bias. So nothing how much of 0:17:17.361 --> 0:17:20.521 a problem was that, though it would be a problem 0:17:20.601 --> 0:17:22.841 if it got progressively worse over time, and as she 0:17:22.961 --> 0:17:25.841 aged and went into his sixties, seventies and eighties, that 0:17:25.881 --> 0:17:29.241 shift got progressively worse. Certainly something you want to manage. 0:17:29.561 --> 0:17:32.281 But nowadays the sports scientists and these teams are so 0:17:32.321 --> 0:17:34.241 good at saying, well, you're right side bias, but when 0:17:34.281 --> 0:17:36.441 you do your exercise prescription and the loading of the gym, 0:17:36.481 --> 0:17:38.681 they're very particular about making sure that you're not falling 0:17:38.721 --> 0:17:39.441 into that bias. 0:17:39.601 --> 0:17:42.561 Okay, look, just to kick off, we're with Greek pain 0:17:42.561 --> 0:17:45.201 he's from Biasport dot cord a n Zed. Well, he's 0:17:45.201 --> 0:17:47.801 actually from Greek Pain, but his website is Biasedport dot 0:17:47.841 --> 0:17:50.161 cord on in zed. But we thought for a bit 0:17:50.201 --> 0:17:52.961 of fun we might reflect on the worst ever exercise 0:17:53.081 --> 0:17:56.201 trends that you bought into and come on, you've I 0:17:56.241 --> 0:17:59.001 don't know anyone who wouldn't have done something, whether it 0:17:59.041 --> 0:18:01.801 be as a teenager, I had one of I can't 0:18:01.801 --> 0:18:04.641 mean what it was called that the chest expanded, that's 0:18:04.641 --> 0:18:06.881 oh yeah, And of course the last thing that did 0:18:06.921 --> 0:18:09.001 was expand your chest because it was an exercise for 0:18:09.041 --> 0:18:14.601 your back. What exercise rubbish have you fallen for over 0:18:14.641 --> 0:18:18.281 the years. But also on the serious side of sport, 0:18:18.841 --> 0:18:21.281 if you are wanting some advice on getting into a 0:18:21.321 --> 0:18:24.681 new exercise habit, it may especially be running, which is 0:18:24.681 --> 0:18:27.601 one of Greg's expertises. If you want some advice on 0:18:28.441 --> 0:18:32.481 your own movement and you buy mechanics and an issue 0:18:32.481 --> 0:18:34.201 that you're trying to deal with or you want to 0:18:34.201 --> 0:18:35.721 get started with something, you want to have a chat 0:18:35.721 --> 0:18:38.201 with Greg, we'd love to hear from you. On eight 0:18:38.281 --> 0:18:41.601 hundred eighty ten eighty text on nine two nine two. 0:18:41.921 --> 0:18:57.001 It's twenty five past four Welcome back to the Health 0:18:57.041 --> 0:19:00.281 of on Tim Beverage. My guests Greg Pain BioSport dot 0:19:00.321 --> 0:19:03.641 co dot nz. Actually, Wan I mentioned his website. You 0:19:03.681 --> 0:19:07.441