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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Cost of living is still front and center for workers

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Speaker 2: right now, and no politician is really flavor of the month.

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Speaker 2: This is according to the ctu's Mood of the Workforce

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Speaker 2: Survey CTU polls three and a half thousand union nonion

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Speaker 2: members earlier in the month. The findings even full time

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Speaker 2: workers are struggling to afford the basics. The prevailing mood

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Speaker 2: towards politicians is one of distrust and anger. Sandra Gray

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Speaker 2: is the CTU president, with me this evening, Sandra.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, good evening.

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Speaker 2: So look, no one comes out of this really shining,

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Speaker 2: do they.

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Speaker 1: No. We see a real sense of anger and disappointment

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Speaker 1: towards the current Prime Minister and his cabinet. People feel

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Speaker 1: exceptionally let down by them, think that they are only

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Speaker 1: looking after their wealthy mates and not looking after workers.

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Speaker 1: But for all political parties, I think there's a message

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Speaker 1: in there that says people want bold politicians who will

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Speaker 1: actually do something about making sure that order new workers

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Speaker 1: they have a great life, and they aren't giving anyone

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Speaker 1: the big trick at the moment. They're saying there's lots

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Speaker 1: of work to be done.

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Speaker 2: I think, look, I think a lot of people will

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Speaker 2: take the survey with a bit of a grain of

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Speaker 2: salt because it is the unions. But you know, just

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Speaker 2: talking to people everyday, people in New Zealand, there is

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Speaker 2: a sense that things are so expensive now and actually

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Speaker 2: they're never going to get cheaper. You know, like this

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Speaker 2: is not a short term problem. It's a medium, long

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Speaker 2: term problem, affordability issue that we've got, and not just us,

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Speaker 2: but other countries like us around the world.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, what you get is a sense that the future

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Speaker 1: does look look rosy for workers in terms of does

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Speaker 1: this genuinely affect workers? Other surveys out, other data out

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Speaker 1: would say this is exactly how people are feeling about,

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Speaker 1: particularly this government. So it is a very strong result.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is that year on year it

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Speaker 1: feels like it's getting worse. So you know, about sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the survey, as you say, both union and

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Speaker 1: non union members the same fallen behind. They just aren't

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Speaker 1: affording the things they used to. And when we talk

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Speaker 1: about the things that people can't afford, housing, healthcare is

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Speaker 1: really problematic to get access to because it all the

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Speaker 1: cuts the public service, and of course food, people are

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Speaker 1: saying I just can't buy the sort of nutritious food

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Speaker 1: I want for my kids because it's just got so expensive.

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Speaker 1: So we feel it every day. We hear it every

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Speaker 1: day from our friends and our family members. And now

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Speaker 1: three and a half thousand people have spoken and said

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Speaker 1: this is tough. It is tough out again.

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Speaker 2: Sandra Gray, who is what see to You? Appreciate your time.

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