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Speaker 2: Drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected new stalk

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Speaker 3: That's good afternoon. It is the second of August. I'm

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Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens. This is my last day. Heather is back

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Speaker 3: on Monday after being on leave. What's on the program today?

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Speaker 3: Five years after the Musk attack, the government declares the

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Speaker 3: end to enacting the Royal Commission's recommendations. Eight recommendations have

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Speaker 3: Judith cons just after five o'clock today today in the

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Speaker 3: Olympics is a big sailing day. We've talked to Barbara

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Speaker 3: it's around schools is a good idea because he's seen

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Speaker 3: the damage done. These stories are more to come. You

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Speaker 3: can text on ninety two ninety two. Small charge does

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Speaker 3: the wild and wooly weather arrived in the week that

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Speaker 3: gabriel to her friends. A few weeks ago, work stopped

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Speaker 3: on the COOP project. You may have heard about this

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Speaker 3: the COOP projects COP stands for Common Operating Platform. It's

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Speaker 3: a data system that could mean that any agency involved

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Speaker 3: It's making sure that all the computers and all the

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Speaker 3: We need one for all sorts of things. We need

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Speaker 3: to be able to access it and want to talk

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Speaker 3: And then once we have a COP common operating platform

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Speaker 3: Not having a common operating system was cited as the

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Speaker 3: was very glad to hear the Prime Minister of Mike Hoskin,

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Speaker 3: here we go again. Blaming the previous administration for this

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Speaker 3: of Fried Chicken Headquarters and it's with us now. Hello, Judy, yep,

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Speaker 3: how good is your chicken?

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Speaker 4: Mate?

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Speaker 5: You can come try yourself?

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Speaker 3: I can't. You don't like Uber eats? Why don't you

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Speaker 5: Well, we had a report that we received back in

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Speaker 5: We had some sales that equated roughly to four hundred

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Speaker 3: A dollar. You made a dollar from a day's business.

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Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately, as a small business, we can't just switch

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Speaker 3: Right, so you get more business, but you're not making

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Speaker 5: No, so there's a flight markup, but that's from Uber.

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Speaker 5: Right right now. No, as far as we are aware,

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Speaker 3: So you just wanting people to come in and, like

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Speaker 7: Wait?

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Speaker 3: I forgot well fried Chicken headquarters in Henderson. Pick up

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Speaker 3: the Uber Eats. That's all you want?

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Speaker 5: Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we would much prefer that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right. I thank you for your time, Juri,

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Speaker 3: and I wish you a very successful Friday and Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: It's obviously a big night for you. But you know,

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Speaker 3: formal Friday. Looking great. You're all in black. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying the Olympics. We're all staying up too late.

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Speaker 8: I celebrate that, and I think that we all should

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon to here.

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Speaker 3: It's a Friday afternoon. A little bit of Billie Eilish

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Speaker 3: By the way, President Joe Biden has announced that his

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Speaker 3: The election campaign is strange that they're releasing these hostages

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Speaker 3: It's twenty three to five.

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Speaker 2: The World wires on News Talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: There's more in that story. The largest prisoner swap since

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Speaker 9: Hey, everybody, can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: You away him as the president.

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitchison from the United States of America. Just in

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Speaker 4: that we just heard from the Oval Office. And again

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Speaker 4: he's he's in Maryland right now and the prisoner's just

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Speaker 4: touched down about forty five minutes ago, and he looked,

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Speaker 4: I think, very touched, and Kamala Harris, I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: took a step back in this and said, hey, this

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Speaker 4: is all Joe Biden. This is something that's been working

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Speaker 4: on for four or five years right now, and it

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Speaker 4: was really him, along with the allies that got this

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Speaker 4: this job done. So I think this is a feather

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Speaker 4: in the President's had.

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Speaker 3: Now keeping with politics and Donald Trump, now, the problem

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Speaker 3: with that she's promoting the fact that you're a very

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Speaker 3: successful businessman is that people are always looking at just

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Speaker 3: how rich you and then they're making stories about whether

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Speaker 3: you've got richel or poor. And apparently Donald Trump has

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Speaker 3: got poorer.

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Speaker 4: Well he has not just since his trial, but also

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Speaker 4: since what happened last you know, a week and a

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Speaker 4: half ago, with Biden stepping down and Kamala Harris stepping

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Speaker 4: up right now, the value of his Truth Social has plummeted.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's down about twenty three percent. We're seeing

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Speaker 4: the value of his personal stake that was I think

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Speaker 4: around four billion dollars in the middle of last month

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Speaker 4: is now about three point one only Andrew. Part of

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Speaker 4: this is because truth Social just isn't gaining any traction

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Speaker 4: over here. I mean, I don't know anyone who's on

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Speaker 4: this side personally. A lot of people talk about it,

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Speaker 4: and they're unique visitors tumbled by, you know, more than

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Speaker 4: the third year over year in the Lessen So that's

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Speaker 4: the third month that we've seen this platform decline. And

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Speaker 4: you know, Elon Musk has got to be sitting over

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Speaker 4: there going. You know, I was, I was worried about this,

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Speaker 4: but maybe not so much now when this launch.

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Speaker 3: But that's diminished as well. And yeah, I do miss

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump in the Twitter. It was a match made

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Speaker 3: in heaven. Britney Spears. She wrote quite an interesting book,

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Speaker 3: quite a regulatory book as well, The Woman in Me,

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Speaker 3: and apparently it's going to the big screen. It is.

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Speaker 4: It's being developed as a bio for her life and

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Speaker 4: the gentleman who directed Crazy, Crazy Rich Asians, is going

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Speaker 4: to be directing this. He also is coming out with

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Speaker 4: a movie that's that's a lot of people are looking

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Speaker 4: forward to over here called Wicked, which is sort of

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Speaker 4: based on the Wizard of Oz. And you know, Spears

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Speaker 4: has been very open I think about her childhood and

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Speaker 4: her relationship with her family or lack so I think

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Speaker 4: there's going to be some curiosity when this comes out.

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Speaker 4: Her book was the best seller. Her audio book was

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Speaker 4: a hit on Spotify. But the question is, Andrew, if

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Speaker 4: you're a fan of Spears and you've gone out and

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Speaker 4: you've bought the book, and you've listened to it on

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Speaker 4: tape and we've seen most of her life play it

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Speaker 4: out in front of the TV cameras of the paparazzi,

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Speaker 4: are you willing to pay ten or fifteen dollars to

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Speaker 4: see this on the big screen. And I guess a

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Speaker 4: lot is going to depend on who ends up playing her.

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Speaker 3: It's a big role. And I thank you so much,

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Speaker 3: enjoying your weekend. Dan mitchedon out of the United States

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Speaker 3: of America. Judith Collins is joining us after the five

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Speaker 3: o'clock News eight of the Royal Commission recommendations from the

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Speaker 3: inquiry into the christ Church mosk attack are going to

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Speaker 3: be dropped. And what are those eight? Was the first

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Speaker 3: question I asked when I came in. And one of

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Speaker 3: them is to repeal Section one three one of the

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Speaker 3: Human Rights Act and insert of provision in the Crimes

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Speaker 3: Act for an offensive inciting disharmony through hate speech. It's

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Speaker 3: the dreaded hate speech legislation. They're going to drop it.

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Speaker 3: Why are they dropping it is because under the coalition

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Speaker 3: agreement between the National Party and New Zealand first they

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Speaker 3: have to drop it, so they're dropping it. And I've

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Speaker 3: got a text from Ben who said the proposed hate

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Speaker 3: speech law infringed too much on free speech, it was

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Speaker 3: too one sided on the government of the day's views

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Speaker 3: and a narrative that was wrong. This may be so, Ben,

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Speaker 3: but this is a new government and could they take

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Speaker 3: another crack at the hate speech Do we need hate

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Speaker 3: speech legislation? Is it possible to do it without affecting

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Speaker 3: free speech? You can text ninety two ninety two. Judith

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Speaker 3: Collins is about twenty minutes away here on News Talk

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Speaker 3: Hi Beat, we're talking politics and Barry sopernext.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: It is now thirteen minutes to five, and Barry sober

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Speaker 3: joys as Hibz I have to known Andrew. So we've

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Speaker 3: got Judith Collins saying we're not working on a hate

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Speaker 3: speech legislation anymore as they drop the recommendations from the

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Speaker 3: Royal Commission of Inquiry into the mossc Attech. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: today the hate speech legislation gone. They're not working on

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Speaker 3: it anymore. It's part of their coalition agreement. However, you're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about hate speech, Well, the thing.

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Speaker 9: Is that basically speech that incites violent is already illegal.

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Speaker 9: So you know, I mean the Free Speech Union. I've

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Speaker 9: been sounding off about it today because apparently cops are

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Speaker 9: now being taught to just keep their eye on what's

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Speaker 9: going on out there, and they cite examples that have

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Speaker 9: been given to them that kiwi's should be free to

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Speaker 9: express themselves and police are being trained to protect kiwi's

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Speaker 9: right to express their opinions, not trained to speculate whether

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Speaker 9: they're hateful or not. And they cite a couple of

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Speaker 9: examples that the officers are being told hate speech can

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Speaker 9: include claims that there are only two genders, and that's

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Speaker 9: a debatable thing. That and or that billboard, that very

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Speaker 9: famous billboard that came out I think was under Don Brash.

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Speaker 9: Actually key We, not e We, and I thought it

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Speaker 9: was quite a clever billboard. Actually, but that's not hate speech.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's you know, that's for your comment, I suppose.

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Speaker 9: But the Hate Speech Union were written to by a

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Speaker 9: senior police officer. He said he was really concerned about

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Speaker 9: it because he said, sah, essentially a hate hub has

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Speaker 9: been set up in the police and they're being taught

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Speaker 9: now in session. And he said he didn't sign up

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Speaker 9: to be and they've quoted him directly. He didn't sign

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Speaker 9: up to be part of the thought police, he said.

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Speaker 9: In fact, he became a police officer to protect people's

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Speaker 9: inherent rights, and that's to speak the way they want

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Speaker 9: to as we do. Dare I say it on news

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Speaker 9: talk Z.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't swear to the police officer, though, was particularly

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Speaker 3: when they're trying to detain you, because that's not free speech.

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Speaker 9: No, no, it's no. But but ACT has climbed into

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Speaker 9: this as well. It says that all of it highlights

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Speaker 9: the fundamental problem with hate speech. Laws, and that is

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Speaker 9: the completely subjective and I think that's absolutely.

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Speaker 3: It depends on the tenor, it depends on the tone,

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Speaker 3: it depends on the the intention, and it's so hard

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Speaker 3: to do. By the way, I was talking about why

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Speaker 3: can't Nationals keep working on hate speech edustation? Can you

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Speaker 3: write hate speech and edgustation while I'm retaining free speech?

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Speaker 3: And I got a text through which said, you're a dick.

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Speaker 3: You can't have free speech and a hate speech law.

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Speaker 3: So I guess that is what we would call free

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Speaker 3: speech with a little touch of height.

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Speaker 9: That is the problem. And I've just had a statement

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Speaker 9: from the police in the last few minutes. They acknowledge

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Speaker 9: that they are instructing their police officers or taking them

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Speaker 9: to what they call a hate crime learning hard and

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Speaker 9: they say it's to support frontline staff to confidently, recognize,

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Speaker 9: record and respond to and resolve hate motivated crimes. But

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Speaker 9: I just wonder, you know, the problem that like the

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Speaker 9: Free Speech Union would see are they filing this off

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Speaker 9: and say, look, I don't like I don't like what

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Speaker 9: that bloke was saying the other day and attached the

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Speaker 9: name to it and.

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Speaker 3: Said, though you've got somebody who is full of hate

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Speaker 3: and he screaming at somebody who's about he's going to

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Speaker 3: actually go for it. You might want to say that

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Speaker 3: sounds like hate speech, and I might actually put his

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Speaker 3: arms behind his back and stop him from heading the

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Speaker 3: other guy. So you need to know that. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's not like hate speech does not exist. But there

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Speaker 3: we go. No, absolutely, now here's a bit of free speech,

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Speaker 3: and poohy. They just turned around and walked out of

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Speaker 3: a meeting with Christopher lux of the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 9: Yes they did, and the meeting was essentially in Auckland

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Speaker 9: and now pooy. They basically say that this government is

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Speaker 9: running roughshod over Maldy, and it's a claim that's been

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Speaker 9: made time and time again because they've cited things like

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Speaker 9: the Maldi Ward Legislation, which passed its final reading this week,

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Speaker 9: changes to the Iranga Tamariki Act and moves to soften

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Speaker 9: the seaboard bed and force short judgment, and that Treaty

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Speaker 9: Principles Bill being promoted by Act. The legislation hasn't seen

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Speaker 9: the light of day yet, so we have to see

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Speaker 9: what that's going to say. But it's interesting they turn

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Speaker 9: their backs in a meeting where they could have some

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Speaker 9: influence exactly. And that's the problem, isn't it When we

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Speaker 9: talk about speech, isn't it better to be at the

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Speaker 9: table and arguing with the government than to boycott it.

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Speaker 9: So you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: So you've got to speak with thee we have shot

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Speaker 3: themselves and the feet. If you have an enemy, you've

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Speaker 3: got to speak with them and actually proved to them

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Speaker 3: your argument is right. Because if you turn around and

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Speaker 3: walk around, I mean, that's a that's a They had

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Speaker 3: many years.

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Speaker 9: Of the government at this meeting. There was the Justice Minister,

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Speaker 9: Paul Goldsmith, they had Tama Poutucker, the Minister of Morrow Development,

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Speaker 9: and several other ministers were there, including the Police Minister

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Speaker 9: Mark Mitchell. So to me, what they're doing is losing

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Speaker 9: their opportunity for free speech.

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Speaker 3: And that's a good place to end it. If you

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Speaker 3: don't mind, can you come back after six o'clock I

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Speaker 3: will do the whole week. Well, very good stuff. It

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Speaker 3: is seven to five. It's news storks.

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Speaker 1: There be tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast hard.

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Speaker 13: To believe the transpower Pilian story, isn't it two workers

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Speaker 13: no training under the bolts the tower fall, Zieber Power

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Speaker 13: goes out. They didn't get proper supervision either. So now

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Speaker 13: we presumably talk about compensation or do we. Northern's MP

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Speaker 13: Grant mccallums, will.

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Speaker 5: Us give you time, you hear it?

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Speaker 11: You just wonder how this possibly happened.

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Speaker 13: Exactly, But the report says the compensation part of the

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Speaker 13: question was not in their purview.

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Speaker 3: Who owns and runs with this?

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Speaker 11: Now, people like myself and sit down, Transpound say, actually

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Speaker 11: you owe the people of Norton's on anger out there.

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Speaker 11: You've heard it from the business community and actually the

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Speaker 11: wider community, which has been my pitch, yet a decent

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Speaker 11: check from the Transpower which we can use the benefit

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Speaker 11: all of Northland because everybody was affected.

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Speaker 13: Back Monday, from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 13: the rain drove of the last news talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're going to talk to Judith Collins in

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Speaker 3: a few moments time. They're abandoning the attempt at the

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Speaker 3: hate speech legislation, and I thought maybe they could have

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Speaker 3: a little crack at it. I don't have to write it,

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Speaker 3: I'll ask you why and what. And Ian comes out

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Speaker 3: and says, no one can even define what hates speeches. Actually, so,

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Speaker 3: how could there ever be any sensible laws against it?

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Speaker 3: At that said, I have load of texts that are

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Speaker 3: also saying, well if they one example of hate speech

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Speaker 3: looked no further than the utterings of the Malori Party

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Speaker 3: And well, okay, well do you want some hate speech

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Speaker 3: and legislation on that. Anyway, we'll ask Truith Collins about

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Speaker 3: that and find out what if things are, because this

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Speaker 3: is what you do. You asked the people why they're

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Speaker 3: doing it. Meanwhile, the next time, we also have a

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Speaker 3: traumous surgeon who's coming out against the government's blankets speed limits.

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Speaker 3: And I say the government's blankets speed limits because it's

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Speaker 3: the government that is setting the blanket speed limits. Under Labor,

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Speaker 3: regional authorities had the right to set the limit on

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Speaker 3: any road they operated at any speed they thought was appropriate.

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Speaker 3: When it came to state highways, the government set them

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Speaker 3: and there was a schedule of three hundred stretches of

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Speaker 3: road where the Transport Agency thought that slower speeds were preferable,

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Speaker 3: like outside rural schools and known danger spots. But it

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Speaker 3: was all over the shot. This new government has come

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Speaker 3: in and said no, no blanket speed limits are fifty

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Speaker 3: and one hundred and occasion one hundred and twenty. I

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Speaker 3: don't quite understand why they did that. Personally, I don't

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Speaker 3: understand why they went on the whole time about the

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Speaker 3: blanket speed limits. I guess it gave the impression that

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Speaker 3: labor was lowering all speed limits everywhere, which was not

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Speaker 3: true anyway. Welcome to politics in twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 3: we'll find out why this trauma surgeon doesn't like higher speeds.

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Speaker 3: And I think we already know the answer. It's beIN

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Speaker 3: on the ads that we've seen on the Telly every

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Speaker 3: day news and sporters. Next, this is News Talks at.

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Speaker 1: By, the only drive show you can trust to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, get the answers, find the facts.

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Speaker 2: And give the analysis. Andrew dickens on hither due to

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Speaker 2: see allan drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected

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Speaker 2: News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the program of the second of August. It's

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Speaker 3: seven after five eighth of the Royal Commission recommendations from

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Speaker 3: the inquiry into the Christ of Jamask attacks are being dropped.

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Speaker 3: The government is adopting thirty six of the forty four recommendations,

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Speaker 3: but it will not be amending hate speech laws or

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Speaker 3: establishing new security and intelligence agencies. It's been announced today

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Speaker 3: that after more than five years, the Coordinated Response is

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Speaker 3: now ending, and Judith Collins is the League Coordination Minister

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Speaker 3: and joins me now, good evening, Judith, Hi Andrew. It's

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Speaker 3: the end of a very long and sad process, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: It certainly is, and sectly for the families and everyone

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Speaker 10: who suffered through it, but also for the first responders.

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Speaker 10: It's been a really hard process over a long time.

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Speaker 3: And are we a better country for it?

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Speaker 10: I think we are. Actually, I think we're more alive

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Speaker 10: to the possibilities of terrorism. I think we're also significantly

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Speaker 10: a country that looks at other keywis and say, well,

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Speaker 10: we need to treat everyone with decency.

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Speaker 3: There are eight recommendations so that we're not doing. No

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Speaker 3: amendments to legislation on hate speech will be made and

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Speaker 3: that is under the coalition agreement between National Party and

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Speaker 3: New Zealand First. So is hate speech off the table

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Speaker 3: because it's just too hard.

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Speaker 10: No, it's not just because it's just too hard.

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Speaker 14: What it is.

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Speaker 10: An unnecessary breach of people's rights to free speech. We

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Speaker 10: know that we can see it in other countries, and

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Speaker 10: I don't need to go through all the examples where

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Speaker 10: it can be used to shut down genuine debate. But

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Speaker 10: also I think what we need to always remember is

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Speaker 10: that we already have certain restrictions such as incitement to

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Speaker 10: violence and restrictions like that. So obviously we believe it's

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Speaker 10: very important to have a free speech wherever possible, and

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Speaker 10: the only real restrictions should be around inciting violence or

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Speaker 10: in breach the Human Rights Act.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good, As some people say, the term hate speech

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Speaker 3: is debatable, you know, and when we hear people say

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Speaker 3: we need to kill all these people, well, you know

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Speaker 3: that's hate speech. But we needed to find that and

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Speaker 3: use free speech to then crack down it, don't we.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think if somebody says that there is you know,

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Speaker 10: you need to go around killing people, that's in site devance.

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Speaker 10: That's already an under the New Zealand law. But if

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Speaker 10: you say I don't like these people because they're different,

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Speaker 10: well that might simply show that the person making that

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Speaker 10: statement is a fall. It doesn't necessarily mean that they

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Speaker 10: should be arrested and go through the courts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, Chris Hipkins says, calling it quits before implementing

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Speaker 3: all the recommendations while at the same time hinting at

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Speaker 3: liberalization of the law around semi automatics is out of touch.

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Speaker 3: What would you say to him?

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Speaker 10: Look, I'm pretty disappointed. And Chris Hipkins, he was the

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Speaker 10: Prime Minister for about nine months last year. He could

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Speaker 10: have brought these recommendations through instead. The ones that we

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Speaker 10: have dealt with are the ones that the previous government

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Speaker 10: of which he was the Prime Minister and before that

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Speaker 10: senior minister also did not make decisions on. But we've

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Speaker 10: made decisions to say, actually, after five years, five and

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Speaker 10: a quarter years, the people involved, the families involved, they

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Speaker 10: have a right to know what the answer is. And

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Speaker 10: these are recommendations. The Royal Commission has done an excellent job,

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Speaker 10: but they are not the government. It's the government's job

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Speaker 10: to make these decisions. Chris hitkinsident. I'd say, don't politicize things, Chris,

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Speaker 10: don't do that. We didn't and I expect you not

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Speaker 10: to do it either.

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Speaker 3: Judith Collins, I thank you if for your time today.

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Speaker 3: Judith is the League Coordination Minister on the recommendations made

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Speaker 3: by the Royal Commission of Inquiry after the christ Church

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Speaker 3: Musk attacks at the end of sad five years. It's

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Speaker 3: eleven after five, az be and do something a bit

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Speaker 3: more cheery, more chances of medals tonight in the Olympics,

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Speaker 3: and this time it's in the sailing disciplines. Isaac McCarty

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Speaker 3: and Willim mackenzie a competing in the forty nine FX

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Speaker 3: the skiffs. They're in the medal race. We got a foiler,

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Speaker 3: Josh m It looks poised for possible medal. Barbara Kendall

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Speaker 3: is a former Olympian and gold gold medalist, a medal

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Speaker 3: winner multiply and is with us now. Hello Barbara, morning,

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Speaker 3: oh afternoon.

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Speaker 15: Not quite sure what it is there at the moment.

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Speaker 3: This, ladies and gentlemen, is because Barbara Kendall is in

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Speaker 3: Tahiti at the surfing competition of the Olympics. Now, why

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Speaker 3: are you there? You're a windsurfer. You don't need waves.

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Speaker 15: That's correct. I actually joined the International Surfing Association as

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Speaker 15: a vice president, was elected in twenty fourteen. So I've

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Speaker 15: been here now for ten years helping the Surfing Association

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Speaker 15: with its governance and athletes commissions, and in behind the

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Speaker 15: background the whole time, you know, for ten years and

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Speaker 15: it's been so rewarding to be here in Tahiti to

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Speaker 15: watch it. So yeah, I've been I've been a lucky one.

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Speaker 3: How good is this wave? It's just the most perfect wave. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: we're here actually to talk about sailing because we've got

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of races tonight. Now, first we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about Joe La and Molly Meach who can't

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Speaker 3: win a medal? Can they?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 15: Point wise, it's quite it's impossible because the medal race

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Speaker 15: is worth double points, so and the girls that are

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Speaker 15: in front of them, even if they get maximum points

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Speaker 15: from their race races, Joe and Molly can't reach that

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Speaker 15: the metal position, which is a shame. But you know,

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Speaker 15: they have given it absolutely everything that they've got. And

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Speaker 15: even if they could win the medal race, which is

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Speaker 15: absolutely a possibility, that would be amazing way for them

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Speaker 15: to bow out of the competition. You know, they've had

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Speaker 15: ups and downs all through the competition. I think it

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Speaker 15: sounds like it's been quite shifty and gusty and changeable

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Speaker 15: conditions out there and hard, long days. But I know

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Speaker 15: that both of them are really strong Wahini, and they've

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Speaker 15: both got really good attitudes and I know that they'll

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Speaker 15: be really looking forward to this last race.

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Speaker 3: For sure, you've been a flag bearer, so as Joe

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Speaker 3: la does being a flag bearer distract?

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Speaker 15: I know it did me, to be honest, you know

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Speaker 15: when I think back, but I was twenty eight when

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Speaker 15: I carried was the flag bearer for New Zealand and Atlanta,

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Speaker 15: and it was a bit of a distraction because you

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Speaker 15: become the team leader and the icon and a role model,

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Speaker 15: and it just puts that little bit of pressure and

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Speaker 15: expectation on That was my opinion. I think Joe's probably

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Speaker 15: handled it really really well. Yeah, but it did for

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Speaker 15: me a little bit of a distraction, but it also

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Speaker 15: was an incredible honor to be a flag bearer, so

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Speaker 15: they weighed each other out really.

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Speaker 3: Now to the forty nine Xes and this skiff, we've

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Speaker 3: got Isaac McCarty and Will mackenzie. Any chance there.

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Speaker 15: Definitely those boys have been sailing incredibly well. They've done

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Speaker 15: a lot of work mentally, physically and technically. They've put

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Speaker 15: in some serious hours over the last four years. And

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Speaker 15: you know, the metal race sometimes has that element of luck,

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Speaker 15: and so if they've definitely got that lucky star there,

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Speaker 15: I know that they've got enough skill and speed to

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Speaker 15: be able to crack into the one of those metals,

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Speaker 15: and that would be amazing for sailing. New Zealand sailing

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Speaker 15: really needs some medals to carry us through into the

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Speaker 15: next Olympics.

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Speaker 3: And finally, I want to move on to the foiling. Now,

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Speaker 3: the foiling replaces your event, which was the sail boarding

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Speaker 3: or the windsurfing as we knew it on a board.

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Speaker 3: Now they're actually they've got a parachute and wires and

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Speaker 3: they're on a foil. It's bizarre.

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Speaker 15: Quite it's still exactly like windsurfing, so it's exactly windsurfing.

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Speaker 15: They just have the foils underneath. It's the it's the

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Speaker 15: kite foiling that has the parachute.

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Speaker 3: This is good to know. This is why you're on

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Speaker 3: the program, by the words, So this took there's four classes.

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Speaker 15: There's four so there's two classes. One is kite foiling,

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Speaker 15: which is the parachute on the wires and they're on

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Speaker 15: tiny little boards with foils. And then there's windsurfing, which

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Speaker 15: is exactly what I did, but they're on foils and

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Speaker 15: going twice as fast as what we used to go.

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Speaker 3: Would you have been able to cope with the foils.

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Speaker 15: Oh, I would have loved I would have loved I

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Speaker 15: would I would love to have done it. I'd love

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Speaker 15: to look live my whole Olympic career again. It's such

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Speaker 15: a blast. I've actually I do foil myself on a

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Speaker 15: on a smaller board and winging it's called And the

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Speaker 15: speed and the freedom and the quietness of flying above

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Speaker 15: the water is incredible. So yes, I love these new

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Speaker 15: these new, this new equipment.

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Speaker 3: This interview is going far too long because it's far

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Speaker 3: too much fun. And I've got to finish it off

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Speaker 3: by saying we've got to foiler josh Ahmittt, who will

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Speaker 3: advance directly into the semi finals. So this is looking good,

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Speaker 3: this is looking really good.

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Speaker 15: But V also has a chance because and the metal

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Speaker 15: race is very different to the IQ foiling and even

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Speaker 15: if you're in tenth place, because the scores go to

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Speaker 15: zero for everybody coming into the final races, and we

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Speaker 15: have three semi final, two semi finals, and then a final.

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Speaker 15: And so the girl who got tenth could actually work

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Speaker 15: her way all the way through to face the top

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Speaker 15: three and then take a metal still, so it's up

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Speaker 15: to anybody in the IQ foil. It's a different format

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Speaker 15: to other sailing.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, really looking forward to it and it's been a

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Speaker 3: delight talking to you, bab. Thank you so much. It

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Speaker 3: is sixteen after five now you will not believe this.

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Speaker 3: The Wellington City Council is offering eight and a half

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars in prize money for anyone who can come

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Speaker 3: up with a permanent solution for its controversial cycle waves.

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Speaker 3: Can you believe this? In other words, they're going, we

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Speaker 3: can't do this, Maybe you can and we might give

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Speaker 3: you some money if you come up with an idea.

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Speaker 3: Is this a total admission of defeat. We're going to

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Speaker 3: talk to a councilor Diane Calvert in just a few

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Speaker 3: moments time here on news Talk zb Right, we all

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Speaker 3: want to be the best, but not all of us

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Speaker 3: can say we are the best unless you have a

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Speaker 3: gold medal. But one company there came proudly claim this accolade.

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Speaker 3: Not at the Olympics, says one New Zealand who'll be

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Speaker 3: named as having the best mobile network in altail? Rud

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, forget this. The third year running, the award

873
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Speaker 3: was handed out in May by independent benchmarking organization umlaut,

874
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Speaker 3: which tests and compares more than two hundred mobile networks worldwide,

875
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Speaker 3: and of the three major Kiwi telcos, One New Zealand's

876
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Speaker 3: mobile network performed the best. They came out on top

877
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Speaker 3: of voice and data and had the most reliable mobile network.

878
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Speaker 3: And the results of good news for One New Zealand

879
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Speaker 3: because they invest millions of dollars each year into its network,

880
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Speaker 3: and it's good news for you if you rely heavily

881
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Speaker 3: on your phone for both work and personal use, and

882
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: you need, you really do need a mobile network that

883
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: keeps you connected well and this is the best in

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Speaker 3: the world. If you'd like to learn more about joining

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's most reliable mobile network, jump online and visit

886
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Speaker 3: one dot nz zidy. So Wellington City Council's a bit

887
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: under fire right now. They have offered eight and a

888
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: half thousand dollars in prize money for anyone who can

889
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: come up with a better cycle way. The competition brief

890
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: says council was focused on low cost temporary cycle ways

891
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: which had few benefits and now they want the help

892
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Speaker 3: from the public to come up with an idea for

893
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Speaker 3: a longer lasting piece of infrastructure. But questions are being

894
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: asked as to why the council just didn't do the

895
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: cycle ways properly in the first place, and Wellington City

896
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Speaker 3: Councilor Diane Calvert joins me, Now, dioni's just bonkers.

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00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 10: Hi. Well, I think it is one of the many

898
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 10: bonkers ideas that Wellington City Council has and never really

899
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Speaker 10: makes a difference to the city or for its people.

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Speaker 3: Really, if it feels like it's the council saying we

901
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: can't design a cycleway because we're useless, can you do

902
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: it for us? And what you get from that is

903
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Speaker 3: you're useless?

904
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Speaker 10: Well, I think the thing is that the other cycle

905
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Speaker 10: ways were there to and and to be honest, they've

906
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 10: met with a lot of dissatisfaction from locals, but they

907
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 10: were there in a transitional way to say, well, maybe

908
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 10: we haven't got these rights. At least they're easy to move.

909
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Speaker 10: Now we go and put more permanent stuff in. I mean,

910
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Speaker 10: people are saying you haven't got the cycle ways right now,

911
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 10: so making them even more permanent it's just a further

912
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Speaker 10: recipe for disaster.

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00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Now. Look, I am a cyclist and I

914
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Speaker 3: like myself a good cycle way, but I hate a

915
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Speaker 3: bad cycle way, and sometimes I give a cycle way

916
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Speaker 3: that no cyclist wants to use, which is why we

917
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Speaker 3: then ride on the road. You know. So why is

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Speaker 3: it that we can't do a good cycle away every time?

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Speaker 10: Because what happens is the city council doesn't engage properly

920
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Speaker 10: with everyone that gets either users or is impacted by it.

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Speaker 10: And I took to look. My husband's a cyclist, and

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Speaker 10: I talked to many other cyclists, and even they are

923
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Speaker 10: scratching their heads. And in some of the places that

924
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Speaker 10: our council seems to want.

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Speaker 3: To put cycleways, the cycleways, I really hate the cycle

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Speaker 3: ways that actually have have you know, curbs on either

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Speaker 3: side and you're you're trapped in there and if you're

928
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Speaker 3: very very out your head over heels and endo the

929
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Speaker 3: road and then you run over by a truck. They're

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Speaker 3: terrible things.

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Speaker 10: So that's right, So we need to do that. We're

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Speaker 10: going to do them. We need to do them well.

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Speaker 10: And in the summerads we just can't put them in.

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Speaker 3: Where's the eight and a half thousand dollars coming from?

935
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Speaker 7: Well, we.

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Speaker 10: It's coming from a grant for money from the Bloomberg Cycling.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so this is not right. Players money. Oh dear,

938
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Speaker 3: I've got a cough that this is right. This idea

939
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: has upset you so much you.

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Speaker 10: Are hacking this is okay? Yeah, so looks. I think

941
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Speaker 10: the thing is that you know, this is this is

942
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Speaker 10: an large overseas organization, you know, and good on them.

943
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Speaker 10: But the thing is what's happening is they've opened the

944
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Speaker 10: checkbook and we just rush and grab whatever money is there.

945
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Speaker 10: Whether it's actually going to do it make a difference.

946
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Speaker 3: Or not, well, I can tell you I've got to

947
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Speaker 3: take some rees. Diane, just a few moments ago that

948
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Speaker 3: says just get rid of them there do I win?

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Speaker 10: Exactly. Many people are saying that, especially around Wellington.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Diane Calbott is Wellington City Council. This is

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Speaker 3: News Talks It b it is five twenty.

952
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Speaker 2: Three, digging deeper into the day's headlines. It's Andrew Dickens

953
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Speaker 2: on hither dup to see Elan.

954
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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected the News

955
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Speaker 1: Talks it'd be.

956
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: It's Friday, it's my last day. Hit us back on Monday.

957
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go through three modern inventions that

958
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: I hate. And I hate them not because I'm a luddeye,

959
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: but because of the unintended consequences. The first one is

960
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: payWave hate. payWave one hundred percent unnecessary innovation. Unless you

961
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 3: can get onto a bus with it being able to

962
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: wave a card about have a machinego ping and then

963
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: you can take away some goods. Saves about five button pushes.

964
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Speaker 3: It's for the terminally lazy. But this is not free,

965
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: this technological marvel. To enable payWave, banks sell the service

966
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Speaker 3: provision to a third party to pay for the kitten,

967
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Speaker 3: to pay for the wages of the third party. They

968
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: then stick a cut on your purchase, so things get

969
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: more expensive for you, and also the retailers add that

970
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: to the bank charges and therefore before you know it,

971
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Speaker 3: because you save four little button punches, that's your tax cut,

972
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: all gone, just like that. Use cash or FPOs. The

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00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: second one online shopping. I never use it. It's killing

974
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: the high street. It's killing retail. You want a shirt,

975
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Speaker 3: go to a shop, try one on, be part of

976
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Speaker 3: the community, say hello Brian, nice shirt shop, how are you?

977
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 3: And then all the couriers circling the globe like crazy

978
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: delivering online line shopping. It is a terrible environmental footprint.

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00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: And my final one is Uber eats because it's made

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00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: the news, never touched it never will. It's a third

981
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: party fleecing business and it fleeces consumers too. This Auckland

982
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: e three has revealed how Uber easts is killing their business,

983
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 3: Fried Chicken Headquarters in Henderson. If you're in Auckland today,

984
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Speaker 3: drive to Fried Chicken Headquarters and order their chicken. I'm

985
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: informed by Jury the owner. It's magnificent chicken. They made

986
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: eight hundred and twenty dollars worth of food in three

987
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: days in July, and all up they only got eighty

988
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: four bucks in the hand because all the rest went

989
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: to Uber eats. Now they knew the deal, they signed

990
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: up for it, and Uber eats has increased their business,

991
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: but they're not making money With the rapacious billing, it

992
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: makes it not really worth it. So they're sending out

993
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: an sos to customers. If you like our food, come

994
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: and see as we are Fried Chicken Headquarters and Henderson,

995
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: pop out and pick it up, said dad. He loves it. Honestly.

996
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: If we stopped using payWave, stopped online shopping, and went

997
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: back to the old ways of buying takeaways, making it

998
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: an adventure, the whole country would actually be better off now.

999
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: News Talk said, be.

1000
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh got a jingle now on the way the trauma

1001
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: surgeon who says, guess what higher speeds mean, bigger injuries,

1002
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: and that's why he's against the speed policies of this

1003
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: current government. And then we're into the sports huddle orders

1004
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: it and beuleie the Olympics. It'll be great.

1005
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talk to Andrew first, Andrew Dickens on

1006
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: hither duplessy allan drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

1007
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: News Talk said, be I.

1008
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 3: Remember when we were trying driving in your car?

1009
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: Speeds are fast?

1010
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: Film drum seriously before it's in your arm around my ser.

1011
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: Modern inventions I hate a Colin has texted me, Hello, Colin.

1012
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: Colin often texts me. Colin text has said, for once,

1013
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 3: I wholeheartedly agree with you. Well said all right, Mark

1014
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 3: says Andrew. Over a two hundred dollars spent on payway

1015
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 3: fees in May never again to hell with them? Two

1016
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: hundred bucks for what? Yes, Mark, I know there's your

1017
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: tax cut gone. Next text here here on Uber eats,

1018
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: It kills brands, It arrives in questionable quality, takes away

1019
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 3: the dining experience and costs more. A lot is lost

1020
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: for the sake of convenience. And that's from a former

1021
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 3: food business owner. And final text, TEMU is the biggest shocker.

1022
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: How have they not been regulated yet? They must be

1023
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 3: single handedly reversing any climate action with the demand they

1024
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: are creating for cheap drunk which has flown all over

1025
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: the world. They take up all the Google ad space

1026
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: no matter what we search for, slowing business for local

1027
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: industry and retail. I tell you three modern inventions I hate.

1028
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: I hated to the sports huddles on the way it's

1029
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: twenty two.

1030
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: To six news talk zibby.

1031
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: The Trauma Surgeon's Committee. I had no idea there was

1032
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 3: such a thing. But the Trauma New Zealand Trauma Surgeons

1033
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: Committee believe the government's plan to increase speed limits will

1034
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: ultimately lead to more deaths, injuries and traffic overall, and

1035
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: they've made a statement about this. They warn that New

1036
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: Zealand doesn't have the appropriate infrastructure for high speed travel

1037
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Speaker 3: and they warn that many parents are fearful of speed

1038
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: increases around schools. And Chris Wakeman, doctor Chris Wakeman is

1039
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Speaker 3: the chair of the Trauma Surgeons Committee and joins us.

1040
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: This is Friday night. Hello Chris, good evening. Why do

1041
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: you believe the speed increases will lead to more deaths?

1042
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 16: We know that from international studies, but even just since

1043
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 16: twenty twenty when these speed limits were reduced in Auckland,

1044
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 16: that have the rate of the mortality of injury in

1045
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Speaker 16: New Auckland region. We know from international studies the pedestrian

1046
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 16: zones having those at thirty k's an hour again halves

1047
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Speaker 16: the rate of death from pedestrian injuries. And that's why

1048
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 16: well established in such studies in London, Edinburgh, Paris and Berlin.

1049
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: Can you give us some numbers on that, because I

1050
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: have to say many people have said this already on

1051
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: this issue, and they always say, you know, it prevents deaths,

1052
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: and then everyone goes, well how many and you don't

1053
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: get numbers, and I think numbers help.

1054
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 6: Well.

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00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 16: That from Auckland have suggested since twenty twenty they have

1056
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Speaker 16: halved the rate, so that and that's considerable.

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Speaker 3: You see what I mean? You know, if they've halved

1058
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Speaker 3: the rate, that maybe one person actually got injured instead

1059
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Speaker 3: of two, or is it twenty ten instead of twenty what?

1060
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Speaker 3: Or is it twenty what?

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Speaker 16: Are we what are we trying to achieve by increasing

1062
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Speaker 16: the rates the speed lay rates? Do we really believe

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Speaker 16: that it is going to increase productivity the country? I mean,

1064
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 16: I think that's the minister's transports response, is that by

1065
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Speaker 16: spending the roads up is going to speed the country

1066
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Speaker 16: up to speed.

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Speaker 5: We've got no proof of this.

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Speaker 16: No, I know that it's going to increase injuries.

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Speaker 3: And that can I say what? I ask you for numbers.

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Speaker 3: I've asked them for numbers as well, and they don't

1071
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Speaker 3: have numbers either.

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Speaker 17: This is a whole life I don't have the numbers.

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Speaker 16: As chair of the committee.

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Speaker 3: Owned okay, and sometimes Simeon doesn't have the numbers about

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Speaker 3: the increasing productivity. In fact, it was specifically that and

1076
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Speaker 3: he didn't have the answer either. So here we have

1077
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Speaker 3: a debate where everyone's yelling at each other, but nobody

1078
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Speaker 3: actually really has numbers.

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Speaker 16: Yes, we've got percentages in the data from the Auckland

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Speaker 16: the Healthy Auckland Getting Together research group.

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Speaker 3: So, knowing that the law has already been passed, what

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Speaker 3: are you hoping for for making these statements right now?

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Speaker 16: What indication regarding that it's not necessarily the right thing?

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Speaker 16: But also I feel strongly that we need to address

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Speaker 16: some of the problems with our roads. I'm in South Islander.

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Speaker 16: If I drive from christ it's to one actor. For instance,

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Speaker 16: as soon as I turn off towards Geraldine, there's no

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Speaker 16: passing lanes. There's immediate strips, roads B grade at the

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00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 16: best roads, the only A grade roads into international what's

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Speaker 16: called an international a grade road where it's safe to

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Speaker 16: travel one hundred and ten kilometers an hour, places like

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Speaker 16: the Waikato Express Place.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I can give you an example. I can

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00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: give you an example closer to you, and that's Lake

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 3: hard Were where there's a school just outside of the lake.

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Speaker 3: It's actually in the rural areas. It's in a one

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Speaker 3: hundred k zone and yet parents are coming there to

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00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: pick up and drop off kids all the time, and

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00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: it feels probably dangerous, and you would talk think that

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Speaker 3: anybody would want that a decrease in the in the

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Speaker 3: speed limits in those areas.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, And the thing we also forget about is

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Speaker 16: because originally we wrote to the Minister of Health, Ministry,

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Speaker 16: Transport and acc and the not on effect from accidents

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Speaker 16: as a sec the cost of the country, the cost

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00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 16: of the rehab times, trying to get into rehab institutions

1107
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 16: is huge, has a very limited head injury rehab institutions.

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Speaker 16: The only one for children is Auckland for instance, so

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00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 16: South Island head and children have to go to Auckland

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Speaker 16: for rehab. We're very underfunded for rehab and this is

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Speaker 16: just going to make things worse.

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Speaker 3: Well, very good, doctor Chris Wakeman. I thank you so

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00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: much and all the best and enjoy your weekend. And

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00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: this is news Talk ZEBB. Some people say, well, should

1115
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: we always make all the limits thirty kilometers and then

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00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 3: we'll never have deaths or injuries? No, I don't believe.

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00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 16: So.

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 3: I believe that you should have the appropriate speed for

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: the appropriate road. And some of our roads are not

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Speaker 3: appropriate to be going fifty on let alone one hundred,

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00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: and some of our roads are absolutely appropriate for going

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Speaker 3: one and one hundred and twenty. I would like to

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Speaker 3: see variability in our speed limits, but apparently so we

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00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: unbelieves in a blanket speed limit seventeen to seven. Let's

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Speaker 3: get into sport.

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Speaker 1: The Fridays Sports Huddled with New Zealand Southeast International Realty

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Speaker 16: It's stuff better taking it out to touch and New

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00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 16: Zealands go black to black.

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 6: The Supreme seven side wins.

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Speaker 18: Goals, but Alex she beating out Hayden Wilds by seven

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Speaker 18: agonizing excruciating seconds.

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Speaker 14: Hussey spores Brook Francis down to the line.

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Speaker 9: That's gold gold for New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Our boys and Nick Buley and Andrew Orderson and their

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Speaker 3: commentators as well. Hello guys here Malcolm Jordan, Hey boy,

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Speaker 3: does he say the word gold with a long relish

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Speaker 3: when we win? And when the and the and the rowing?

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Speaker 3: Last night? He really did his goal. He's been practicing

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Speaker 3: his goal. Do you all practice your goals?

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Speaker 7: Well? I haven't had the fortune year of calling gold

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Speaker 7: seven agonizing excruciating seconds away from it, as man who

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00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 7: was there in the build up. But we did talk

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 7: about this the other day as to whether you know

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Speaker 7: you pre plan your moment, But I think, yeah, Malcolm

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Speaker 7: nailed the rowing last night, didn't and he's got more

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Speaker 7: opportunities tonight and tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm going to ask a questions for you, who

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Speaker 3: are your Olympic heroes? So far I could have asked

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Speaker 3: you what's your highlights? But I want people who are

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00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: your heroes? Nick Buley.

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Speaker 7: Again I'll pivot back to the triathlon. My hero is

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 7: Hayden Wild and not only for his heroics across that course,

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Speaker 7: of which it was extremely difficult, particularly in the swim leg,

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Speaker 7: but his ultimate sportsmanship moments after being beaten on the

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00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 7: final bend of the run, for him to just immediately

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Speaker 7: put his arm around his great mate and rival Alex

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Speaker 7: Ye who won gold, and then immediately in the interviews

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Speaker 7: for him to acknowledge his countrymen Yllan McCulloch saying he

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Speaker 7: deserves keys to the city, keys to the country, sorry

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Speaker 7: for helping him get in the position he was in.

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Speaker 7: I thought that was superb.

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Speaker 14: And look, I'd whole hardly agree with what Nick just said.

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Speaker 14: Then I was so Princess Hayden White. I always ask

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Speaker 14: himself when the athlete, you know, did they know the

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Speaker 14: cameras on them when they do these things? And I

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Speaker 14: perhaps he.

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Speaker 3: Would have, but.

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Speaker 14: But I thought he was genuine. I thought it was

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Speaker 14: he was authentic.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was articulate.

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Speaker 14: Afterwards, it was just that it was he never hesitated

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Speaker 14: when he was going to talk about Dylan McCulloch and

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Speaker 14: how much he'd supported him. And also it's obvious just

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Speaker 14: from the relationship with Alex Lee. Yeah, there that they

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Speaker 14: bonded down over the years with their rivalry, and I

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Speaker 14: thought that was so good. I'd also put a an

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Speaker 14: aw in, so to speak, for Lucy's spores and brook

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Speaker 14: France's mom there as mums, exactly exactly, and I thought,

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Speaker 14: but I also just on that note, just I think

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Speaker 14: there's things to maybe an improvement and more holistic view

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Speaker 14: of the high performance dragging. And that's the sort of

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Speaker 14: example from what we've seen with those two and winning gold,

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Speaker 14: but also the star you know, the editry that took place.

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Speaker 10: On for it.

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Speaker 3: We see.

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Speaker 9: This is what I like.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've talked about the great sportsmanship of Hayden

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Speaker 3: whild They talked about the mums. But I like all

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Speaker 3: these guys, like the legally blind pommel guy who takes

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Speaker 3: his glasses off, can't see, closes his eyes and does

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Speaker 3: it by touch and that's great for blind people. I

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Speaker 3: like the Turkish marksman who just sat there, stuck his

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Speaker 3: hands in his pocket and lifted up a pistol and

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Speaker 3: shot and won a silver. And I like the way

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Speaker 3: that people said is he is he secret service from

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Speaker 3: Turkey because he's awfully he's awfully good with a gun

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Speaker 3: and those sorts of guys and Hayden and some on biles,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. You know, they they prove that sport is

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Speaker 3: the winner on the day.

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Speaker 14: Boys, they do, and they also take away the focus

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Speaker 14: on things like the water quality of the river.

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Speaker 3: Sin talk about that. I'm going to put you on hold,

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Speaker 3: go and do an ad break and coming back to

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Speaker 3: talk about tonight's action.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand to Be's international realty,

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Speaker 1: unparalleled reach and results.

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Speaker 3: It's really in Orderson joining us tonight. Guys, tonight, we've

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Speaker 3: already talked with Barbara Kendall about the sailings, so we're

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Speaker 3: very excited about that and there's a chance there of

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Speaker 3: course with the foiling. He said, wow, that's amazing. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell what I'm most excited about the return of athletics,

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Speaker 3: and particularly Zoe Hobbs in the one hundred meters and

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Speaker 3: also Santana in the fifteen hundred meters. The heat start

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Speaker 3: Zoe Andrew, Zoe, I'm amazed by her. This is such

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Speaker 3: a hard event. She's so good, She's had so many setbacks.

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Speaker 3: She's there now it's her time to shine.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely Andrew.

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Speaker 14: I think that it's one of those ones. You know,

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Speaker 14: with certain events you can judge them by medals. But

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Speaker 14: if she was to even make the final of the

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Speaker 14: one hundred meters, I think would be an outstanding achieve

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Speaker 14: And I mean she's already gone sub eleven in that thing.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's so rare for a new Zealander, isn't

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Speaker 14: I mean if you think of the last he's at

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Speaker 14: to get a medal in a in a sprints of

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Speaker 14: one hundred meters at the Olympic Games, Lord Port Arthur

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Speaker 14: Park back in nineteen twenty four, seens three ago, well,

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Speaker 14: Tom Watson, Tom Watson as he's done and in Chariots

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Speaker 14: of five he's isn't.

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Speaker 3: What his real name is, that's right, and Gus and

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Speaker 3: Kisher it was quite good. I went to score with

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Speaker 3: Gary Henley Smith. But we haven't had great sprinters and

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Speaker 3: Zoe is great and it is the Blue Riveon event.

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Speaker 3: It is the big thing. There are two big events,

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Speaker 3: the one hundred meters which starts tonight for women, and

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Speaker 3: also the fifteen hundred meters and Nick Buley, Sam Tanner

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Speaker 3: he's a very good runner.

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Speaker 7: He is a very good runner. But again just like

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Speaker 7: orders said there, if Sam Tanna was to make the hunt,

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Speaker 7: the final and the fifteen hundred meters again, I think

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Speaker 7: that would be an outstanding achievement. He certainly showing that

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Speaker 7: he can be there or thereabouts till we hope to

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Speaker 7: start his campaign strong tonight. That first heat is at

1246
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 7: ten past nine involving Samtana ten to ten after Zoeie

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Speaker 7: Hobbs very much looking to the looking forward to the

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Speaker 7: athletic program, and our shot putter is to round it

1249
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Speaker 7: out tomorrow morning. And Tom Walsh and Jack O'Gill. I

1250
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 7: get the sense that we might see jacko Gill perhaps

1251
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Speaker 7: surpass Tom Walsh. I'm just going to throw that out

1252
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 7: there now. I think it's been Tom Tom's rivalry for

1253
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 7: a long time. But jacko gill seems to be picking

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Speaker 7: at the right time.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. I just wanted them to beat that

1256
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Speaker 3: American what's his name, Ryan Krauser.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be.

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Speaker 7: That might be a bridge too far. He seems he

1259
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 7: seems to be far too good. But but yeah, look

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Speaker 7: at it should be a fantastic athletics program. It's certainly

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Speaker 7: one of the highlights of the program, as is the

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Speaker 7: cycling or the track cycling next week to come with

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Speaker 7: still a lot of metal hopes.

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Speaker 3: You have to say, okay, and apparently it's it's the

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Speaker 3: rugby season, not that you'd know at the moment when

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Speaker 3: we're talking about track and field. So Andrew was keeping

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Speaker 3: rob Penny at the Crusaders the right decision.

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Speaker 14: Well, look, Nicol foury know more about this than me,

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01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 14: but I think it's a fair call, given that he's

1270
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Speaker 14: on a contract for that you know that thinks to

1271
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 14: time whether he'll be there after this year. But I

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Speaker 14: think that there was a lot of close games. I mean,

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 14: you're coming, you're following one of the greats in the

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 14: form of Scott Robinson. I think he had a lot.

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Speaker 14: There's a lot of being asked of them right from

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Speaker 14: the we go, and a lot of players disappearing as well,

1277
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 14: So obviously not a thorough process, and I think that

1278
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 14: it seems fair enough for me. I know every team

1279
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 14: is entitled to the odd off season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, here's the thing, Nick, he had some newbies

1281
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Speaker 3: this past year. Hopefully he's fixed them up for the

1282
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 3: second year and so there'll be even more attention on them, mate.

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree. I think there's certainly some caveats that

1284
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 7: play there. It hasn't been good enough for sure. You know,

1285
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 7: a storied franchise of success. The Crusaders have had a

1286
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 7: few things out of his control. Will Jordan being unavailable

1287
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 7: for the entire season for one, Scott Barrett barely playing. Look,

1288
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 7: injuries happened, and I know other coaches dealt with it better.

1289
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 7: But you know the Crusaders, they know what they're doing.

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01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 7: They'll they'll bounce back. It's the now, the second of

1291
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 7: a two year contract for Penny to show his whez

1292
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 7: and if it doesn't work out, they've got a succession

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Speaker 7: plan in mind. The logs of timas Allison sitting there

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Speaker 7: as an assistant coach.

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Speaker 3: Very good stuff. Nick and Andrew, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for your efforts your one week down. You've been shouting

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Speaker 3: yourself as horses you can be. You're going to shout

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Speaker 3: even horser if that's a word, if we start winning

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Speaker 3: golds under your watch. So thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: all your efforts and pass all our best wishes off

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Speaker 3: to the whole team. Very good, very good, and of

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Speaker 3: course you can hear all their commentary all night long

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Speaker 3: on Gold Sport and also on iHeartRadio. It is six

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Speaker 3: minutes to six.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. Heather duple see allan

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Speaker 1: drive with one New zealand one giant Leap for Business

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Speaker 1: News Talk as it be.

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Speaker 3: So News Talks. We were talking to the TRAUMAUS surgeon earlier,

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Speaker 3: fear to say I gave him a hard time heart

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Speaker 3: not having hard numbers, Texas said, Andrew, give the surgeon

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Speaker 3: to break regarding the numbers. The guy works long are

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Speaker 3: ours saving lives? Forgive him for not having the exact

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Speaker 3: data when the minister who should have the numbers doesn't

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Speaker 3: have it. And I, you know, I apologize to him

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Speaker 3: in a way because I was just pointing out the

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Speaker 3: problem with this debate, which someone else's texted and said

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Speaker 3: the same thing, Andrew speed limits. Both sides to the

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Speaker 3: debate have diminished credibility by not being able to evidence

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Speaker 3: hard data. And this is from a listener in Queens

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Speaker 3: Sown and I agree with that because we've asked Simeen.

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Speaker 3: I've asked sime about the hard data about productivity, and

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Speaker 3: there is some data around about productivity. It says that

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Speaker 3: a journey might be affected by less than thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: We're took in nineteen or twenty seconds. What about productivity?

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Speaker 3: What about he was saying productivity. Give us some numbers, mate,

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Speaker 3: and then you need to talk to the other side

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Speaker 3: about how many lives were taken, how many lives can

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Speaker 3: be So they don't say the numbers. I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: This has become a debate of reckons. I reckon, I reckon,

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Speaker 3: if you have a speed limit of fifty k pass

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Speaker 3: the school will have better productivity. I reckon. Well, I reckon,

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Speaker 3: if you have a thirty k speed limit nearest school,

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Speaker 3: you'll have more safer kids. I reckon, I reckon. Nothing

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Speaker 3: wrong with reckons. Radio is built on reckons. Right over,

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Speaker 3: we have new just a few moments time Barry Soviet

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Speaker 3: with the week that was, Next hour We're off to

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Speaker 3: Hong Kong, next hour and more and Gibson too keeping.

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Speaker 2: Track of where the money is you going?

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Speaker 1: With the Business Hour with Andrew Dickins and my hr

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Speaker 1: on News Talks at BS.

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Speaker 3: Good evening to you, Welcome to your weekends. Except for

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Speaker 3: all the rest of us who are working and keeping

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Speaker 3: the economy productive. Good on us, ay boys? All right?

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Speaker 3: Seven after six. By the way, Heather is back on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Now an apartment developer in Auckland has been put into

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Speaker 3: interim and receivership by the High Court with much drama. Today,

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Speaker 3: the Court put Duval Capital Partners and other du Voo

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Speaker 3: Group companies into interim receivership after an application by the

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Speaker 3: Financial Markets Authority and police were seen entering Duval co

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Speaker 3: founders Kenyan and Charlotte Clark's house and rebby weare it

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Speaker 3: today in Auckland. So Anne Gibson is the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Herald property editors. She's the story. Hello, am, Hello Andrew.

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Speaker 3: So do we know what's happening here? Yes?

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Speaker 19: Right, So this was quite surprising. So just before eleven

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Speaker 19: o'clock this morning we got an announcement from the Financial

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Speaker 19: Markets Authority saying it had been to the High Court

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Speaker 19: to get an interim receivership order against a number of parties,

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Speaker 19: actually Kenyon and Charlotte Clark of Duval, Duval Capital Partners

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Speaker 19: and Duval Group. Now what's happened is these businesses are

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Speaker 19: now under the full control of accountants at PwC. They'll

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Speaker 19: go in there, go through them, I think would be right.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 19: Looking at assets, liabilities, who secured creditors, who are unsecured creditors,

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Speaker 19: and then probably about mid August will get their first report.

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Speaker 19: I think they've got ten working days to issue their

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Speaker 19: statement their interim findings on these businesses.

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Speaker 3: So why was the police involved. We don't not know,

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Speaker 3: and we know exactly what the FMA are looking for.

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Speaker 19: We know that the FMA has said there are about

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Speaker 19: one hundred and twenty investors in these businesses. Now, the

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Speaker 19: FMA has had quite a lot to do with Deval

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Speaker 19: over the last few years. I've put on it quite extensively.

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Speaker 19: So back in October twenty one, when Duval raised twenty

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Speaker 19: million dollars via a mortgage offer to wholesale investors, the

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Speaker 19: FMA moved on them over that, and then in March

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Speaker 19: twenty twenty three they also announced that they were taking

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Speaker 19: actually against Aval. So it's mainly to do with the way,

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Speaker 19: partly to do with the risk of the offer. So

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Speaker 19: the fma's role here is to try and clean up

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Speaker 19: the financial markets in New Zealand. We don't want to

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Speaker 19: repeat of what happened in the ages share market crash, right,

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Speaker 19: we don't want to repeat of what happened with Bridge.

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Speaker 19: Corbyn strategic and all those companies back in the GFC,

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Speaker 19: and what occurred there, to be honest, does the people

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Speaker 19: were misled. They didn't really know what they were investing in,

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Speaker 19: and so transparency here is a bit of a key.

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Speaker 3: And this is the thing in this case. They're not

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Speaker 3: actually buying a property, they're not putting the under deposit

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Speaker 3: on a property. They're actually just providing their capital into

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Speaker 3: an investment run by Duval or whatever entity within Duval,

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Speaker 3: which is then they're expecting a return. And now they're

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Speaker 3: having a look into what's happening.

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Speaker 19: There, precisely because these people's money was being invested at

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Speaker 19: rates that were much higher than the bank deposit rates.

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Speaker 3: You know, they always locked in, let's go for that exactly.

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Speaker 19: And what does Mary Homes say? Higher risk, higher rewards,

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Speaker 19: high reward, high risk, and so so it's it's it's

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Speaker 19: it's a warning, isn't it to people? And that's what

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Speaker 19: the FMA is on about here. They're pretty much they

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Speaker 19: they it is their role to enforce the law. And

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Speaker 19: we don't know yet exactly what occurred here. We know

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Speaker 19: that a number of devail companies changed names recently. We

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Speaker 19: know there's been previous CFMA action. We know that Charlotte

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Speaker 19: and Kenyon Clark appeared to be living quite an amazing lifestyle.

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Speaker 19: Beautiful videos are actually meant to be in a televis

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Speaker 19: series called The Property Device.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Okay, Yeah, it's getting more and more juicy.

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Speaker 19: In front of the fire with the beautiful wallpaper and

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Speaker 19: smoking sick gas.

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Speaker 9: How good would that be? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we're going to wait and see what develops

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Speaker 3: from the FMA and we'll follow the story closely. And Gibson,

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Speaker 3: I thank you for your time today, and you Andrew

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Speaker 3: and as our property editor. And this is news Talk

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Speaker 3: ZEBB and just a few mothers time Barry Sober, the

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Speaker 3: return of Barry Sober. Lovely to have him back. Barry

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Speaker 3: Sober will review the week that has been in politics,

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Speaker 3: and it's been quite fractious. It's fair to say. That's next.

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Speaker 3: It's eleven minutes after.

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Speaker 1: Six crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: dup c Ellen with the Business Hours. Thanks to my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for sm on News talksb.

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Speaker 3: Right, we all know about scams. We've all heard about scams.

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Speaker 3: Is always a new story about scams and the increasingly

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Speaker 3: cunning scammers taking advantage of us vulnerable New Zealanders. In particular,

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Speaker 3: they do it through calls and texts and emails and

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Speaker 3: fake websites. A and ZED, in partnership with Age Concerned

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, are encouraging all kiwis to be on a

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Speaker 3: patrol for scams. And they're not doing it alone. They've

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Speaker 3: brought in a bit of a video featuring the hit

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Speaker 3: eighties TV show Chips So remember them Officers Frank Punch

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Speaker 3: punch Arelli and John Baker to bring some old school

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Speaker 3: justice to modern day scams. Watching the video, they teach

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Speaker 3: you how to spot the scams. It is a nationwide

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Speaker 3: invitation to ride along while learning how to be more conscious,

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Speaker 3: alert and aware of scammers. I'll give you some points here.

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Speaker 3: What does this mean? Always remember you have the right

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Speaker 3: to ask questions when contacted by someone, Be cautious of

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Speaker 3: any invested opportunity, hang up on anyone asking for an

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Speaker 3: urgent transfer of funds, particularly if it's your life, and

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01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 3: of course, be suspicious of unexpected calls, texts and emails.

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Speaker 3: So A in Z encourages you to test your scam

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Speaker 3: knowledge on their new Scam Academy Meet up with Frank

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Speaker 3: Ponchrella and John Baker. And the web page is that

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Speaker 3: a in z dot co dot z forward slash scams.

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Speaker 3: One more time a in z dot co dot in

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Speaker 3: z forward slash scams. It is sixteen minutes after six.

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Speaker 3: So let's review the week that wise. Welcome back, Barry Soper.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon again, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: And in fact, we're not even going to review the

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Speaker 3: week that was first. We're going to talk about this weekend.

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01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 3: We're going to cast forward because that's important because we've

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Speaker 3: got the NATS conference this weekend.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it is quite important. It will be more important,

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01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 9: of course for Chris Luxon because this will be his

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Speaker 9: first conference since becoming the Prime minister, and I would

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Speaker 9: think he's going into it quite strongly when you consider

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Speaker 9: the latest Curier Taxpayer's Union poll, and that's all National

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 9: up over two percent to thirty seven point six. Still

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Speaker 9: not a really strong showing by National, but it'll be

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Speaker 9: quite nice for them when you consider that Labor dropped

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Speaker 9: three and a half percent, so they're down to twenty

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Speaker 9: five percent. The Greens and Act well they're virtually the same.

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01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 9: New Zealand first though it picked up almost two percent,

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Speaker 9: so the National Party conference.

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Speaker 17: It all, I would.

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Speaker 9: Imagine respond very well to Chris Luxon. They've done when

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Speaker 9: you consider the first one hundred days a hell of

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Speaker 9: a lot of legislation, and it's the sort of legislation

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Speaker 9: that in fact, the National Party supporters voted for when

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Speaker 9: they went to the polls last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they did the first one hundred days, and

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Speaker 3: then we heard about the second one hundred days, but

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Speaker 3: then we're not hearing about further one hundred days. But

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Speaker 3: things do slow down, so we'll be talking about the

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Speaker 3: next two hundred days, et cetera. And when you consider

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Speaker 3: that we've been through hard economic times, it's very hard

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Speaker 3: for any government of any color to actually maintain popularity,

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Speaker 3: and hard it can maintaine because we're all hurting.

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Speaker 9: And that's the thing, Andrew, that this government had no

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Speaker 9: honeymoon period at all, because people were suffering going into

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Speaker 9: the election and that were shown in the vote. And

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Speaker 9: they continue to suffer as the economy comes out of

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Speaker 9: what is the doldrons, and that'll take some considerable time,

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Speaker 9: as we all know. So Luxein's on thirty four and

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Speaker 9: a half percent. He was up nine just over nine

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Speaker 9: percent in the last opinion polls. So I would imagine

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Speaker 9: he'll walk into that conference probably quite confident that the

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Speaker 9: future will improve, certainly for the coalition government.

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Speaker 3: So this past week we had the hospital waiting lists

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Speaker 3: based on ethnicity scrap These are the lists, of course

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Speaker 3: that you discovered and you broke that story, but they

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Speaker 3: said did not exist. But now the list that does

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Speaker 3: not exist has been scrapped.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think it's a good thing. I mean,

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Speaker 9: we had finally aicheverril Le, then health minister arguing in

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Speaker 9: favor of ethnicity, saying that Maldi and Pacifica they are

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Speaker 9: left behind in the health statistics, and that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 9: But you cannot and the surgeons that I spoke to,

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Speaker 9: and in fact I got a copy of the lists,

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Speaker 9: and they said they didn't invest many years of their

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Speaker 9: lives to become a surgeon to treat people based on

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01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 9: their ancestry, and that I think most New Zealanders would

1505
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 9: say is reprehensible. It's the need that should be to

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 9: the first and foremost what is considered when people are

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 9: being put on these waiting lists.

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 3: So I can have a list that actually reminds practitioners

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01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: these people have problems in these sort of areas, so

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 3: keep a lookout for them more than other areas. Just

1511
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 3: have a look. But when it comes down to the

1512
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: actual treatment, it comes down to need.

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Speaker 9: Oh absolutely the end. We see that the Health Ministry

1514
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 9: is saying that they'll be looking at the possibility of

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 9: adopting a new prioritization tool. That's the sort of thing

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01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,440
Speaker 9: that you're talking about. Obviously you have to give some priorities,

1517
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,520
Speaker 9: but don't base it on ethnicity.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, Julian Jenti finally apologized for something she did

1519
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 3: so long ago. I can't even couple of days, you

1520
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: know how, this is the latest. This is the longest

1521
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 3: gap action and apology ever.

1522
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 9: Well, yes, it took a long time, didn't it for

1523
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 9: the Privileges Committee to have a look at this. They

1524
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 9: could have looked at it earlier, but in their infinite wisdom,

1525
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 9: they decided that she would go before the Privileges Committee

1526
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 9: and make her case. They didn't really inquire into it

1527
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 9: very deeply at all, because we all saw it was

1528
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 9: the sort of behavior.

1529
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: That she screaming at him.

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 9: She spat on him, well almost, I mean she was

1531
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 9: close enough to spit on Matt Doosey, clearly not liking

1532
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 9: what he said and what he stood for. But look,

1533
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 9: in my forty years plus in the Parliament and certainly

1534
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 9: many years in the debating chamber watching the performances, I've

1535
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 9: never seen anything quite like that. And that sort of

1536
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 9: behavior cannot be condoned under any circumstances. And I for one,

1537
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 9: and I'll guarantee there are many politicians in that place

1538
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 9: that would say that she got off very lightly simply

1539
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 9: having to stand in Parliament and saying sos, you know,

1540
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 9: I shouldn't have done it. Well, she should have, I think,

1541
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 9: faced a more significant penalty, like, for example, I've got

1542
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 9: the ability to suspend an MP from Parliament and suspend

1543
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 9: their wages for say a week or two weeks. I

1544
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 9: think that's the course of action.

1545
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: We've seen MPs lose their job because they shout at

1546
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 3: staff behind closed doors and not on nationwide TV. And

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 3: yet she was untouched until she made an apology, if

1548
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: that's worth it all. There was a scrap between the

1549
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: Speaker and David Cymour, and there was about party the

1550
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 3: peal badges and stickers on Malori party computers and seemed

1551
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 3: a bit funny, Well yes it was.

1552
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 9: And the last speaker Trevor Mallard, dare I mention his name,

1553
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 9: it was the most popular speaker in the place. But

1554
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 9: he said at the time that look lapal badges with

1555
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 9: Act for example, and they're very small admissible, they slip

1556
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 9: under the radar. But the point that and speakers make

1557
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 9: their own rulings. So even though Mallard might have made

1558
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 9: that ruling, a new speaker can make a totally different

1559
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 9: ruling and that's why parliament runs. And Jerry brownly said no,

1560
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 9: if we start measuring logos, then you'll have to have

1561
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 9: somebody with a tape measure in parliament. And so he said, no,

1562
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 9: all political logos should be outlawed in parliament. You remember

1563
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 9: the time you will Andrew that they used to come

1564
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 9: in with boxes, little trades and they would have all

1565
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 9: the logos on them. Yeah, that was the time that

1566
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 9: they did say no, get rid of this. But look

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01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 9: for me, I couldn't care if.

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01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 3: They were all rosettes and same. And a lot of

1569
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 3: people pointed out through the talk back in all sorts

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01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: of things that you know, you've got GREENI and Peace

1571
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 3: coming in with hamas scarves on, You've got all sorts

1572
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 3: of symbolism in terms of clothing and apparel happening on

1573
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 3: political things all the time, so to worry about it,

1574
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: the peal badge seems sort of one.

1575
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 9: Incredible if you look at the standards and Parliament. I

1576
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 9: mean you've got people's people wearing hats, you've got no

1577
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 9: no ties in the place. Not that worries me rately,

1578
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 9: but yeah, it's relaxed significantly.

1579
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 3: And finally, the Maldi Party, speaking of which of ten

1580
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 3: gallon hats from cowboys, The Maldi Party has introduced a

1581
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 3: bill to make the White Tugy Tribunal recommendations binding.

1582
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 9: Oh really, I mean, can you believe it? It just

1583
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 9: shows you how out of touch the Maldi Party and

1584
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 9: the person who sponsored this bill, which is a Tea

1585
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 9: Titanungua MP Tacoota Ferus. He says that should be binding

1586
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 9: the treaty any recommendations they make. I think he fails

1587
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,839
Speaker 9: to appreciate the Treaty. The Wa Tongue Tribunal is simply

1588
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 9: a body that makes recommendation.

1589
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 3: I call it a think tank.

1590
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 9: It's a yes, it is. It's it's like a permanent

1591
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 9: commission of inquiry. That's right, and that's all it is.

1592
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 9: I can make recommendations to bind the government to them

1593
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 9: as in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

1594
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 3: Its mate, thank you so much for staying eight. And

1595
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 3: there's a week that was in politics with Barry Soper.

1596
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: It is now six twenty three.

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01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Andrew Dickens

1598
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: with the Business Hour. Thanks to my HR, the HR

1599
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: platform for SME on News talksb.

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Speaker 3: Sex twenty six. Here comes a weekend. We're watching the

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 3: Olympics of my house, and we're also going to Deadpool

1602
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: and Woo Wolverine tomorrow at five. The movie and since

1603
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: this is the business out, let's talk about the business

1604
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 3: of dead Pool and Wolverine. It's just crossed the five

1605
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million US market the global box office,

1606
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: it's right half a billion. Last check. Ticket sales stand

1607
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 3: at two hundred and sixty one million in North America,

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: in two hundred and eighty four million internationally world Why

1609
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: tally five forty five just five days after a release.

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01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 3: Actually that was two days ago, so it's got bigger.

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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 3: And it's a record breaking start for an R rated

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01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: movie because it's an R movie. Because they swear like

1613
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 3: Billy Oh and Dead Paul and Wolverine keeps breaking new

1614
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: ground domestically at lanted the biggest Tuesday haul for an

1615
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 3: R rated movie a day prior at post of the

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01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: highest Monday for an R rated film, and at the

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01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 3: moment it's the number four film of the year after

1618
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: Inside Out two, Despicable Me four and June Part two.

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01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: But this is dead Poll three.

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01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 10: Gee?

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01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 3: Is there any original ideas? By the way, Ryan Reynolds

1622
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 3: has said there will be no dead Pool four because

1623
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: he doesn't like being away from his family, which is

1624
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 3: the sweetest thing. Blake Lively says he's the most present

1625
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 3: man she knows, and he's also almost a billionaire. Doesn't

1626
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 3: have to work if he doesn't want.

1627
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: To, whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

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01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,839
Speaker 1: It's all on the What's This Hour with Andrew Dickens

1629
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: and my HR, the HR platform for sme usalxipp.

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01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 3: We're after Europe with ka Over shortly after the UK

1631
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: and also shortly off to Asia Hong Kong with Peter Lewis.

1632
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 3: One of the business stories of the week is that

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01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: major tourism operators in Queenstown are now buying empty hotels

1634
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 3: to How's staff and my feeling about that is no kidding,

1635
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: what took you so long? Queenstown has always operated in

1636
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: some sort of weird bubble where people keep on building

1637
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 3: businesses that need staff, but they don't build the housing

1638
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 3: for the staff to live in. And of course all

1639
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 3: the houses are lovely because it's paradise. And then we

1640
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 3: end up getting shortages, and then we get losses and

1641
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: we get headlines. And here's the fact. Hotels and tourism

1642
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 3: businesses need loads of staff and those staff are not

1643
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 3: paid well. But nobody has been developing low cost housing

1644
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: and those people who can charge the earth for it.

1645
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 14: Now.

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 3: The University of Auckland realized this years ago. Students need

1647
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: cheap housing so they can come and study, so they

1648
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: developed and supported loads of high rise dorms around the university.

1649
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 3: Queen Stown should be doing the same way. Keep expecting

1650
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 3: to see similar projects in that industrial land around the airport,

1651
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 3: but instead I keep on seeing things like quests and

1652
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: remarters going up and they need even more staff. In

1653
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 3: my youth, I worked on an Inglish radio station in Monaco.

1654
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 3: I know three years there. I had loads of friends

1655
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: who worked in hotels, and almost every hotel on the

1656
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 3: kot Tazur had a little mini hotel behind them for staff,

1657
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 3: and they were raucous at fun places to hang out.

1658
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 3: And I can tell you, but the hotel kept the

1659
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 3: staff because the staff had a roof over their heads.

1660
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 3: And I'm surprised we let so many hotels proliferate in

1661
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 3: a tourism hot spot without making sure they had plans

1662
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 3: to contribute to the low cost housing stock.

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01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: Andrew Dicks Peter.

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01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: Lewis joins US out of Hong Kong. Hello, Peter, Andrew. Right,

1665
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 3: we've got the EU and China talking about trade right now,

1666
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: and we've got a very interesting mediator.

1667
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 20: Yes, Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney. She's been in Beijing

1668
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 20: for four days. She met with President Hujenking, and as

1669
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 20: you know, relations between China and the EU are not

1670
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 20: great other moments. The EU is very concerned about the

1671
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 20: rather large trade deficits it runs with China, and it's

1672
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 20: concerned about particularly electric vehicles that it says are being

1673
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 20: dumped on the European market at be low cost, partly

1674
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 20: because of all the subsidies these companies get from the

1675
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 20: Chinese governments.

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01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 17: So tensions are a bit frayed.

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 20: There's been investigations by the EU into China, retaliatory investigations

1678
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 20: by China, and things like wine and cheese and so on.

1679
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 20: But this Maloney says that she can be a mediator

1680
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 20: in all of this and she can help mend relationships

1681
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 20: between the EU and China. Well, I don't know how

1682
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 20: much China is going to see. Miss Maloney is as

1683
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 20: a neutral interlocerateur in this because she doesn't have a

1684
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 20: great track record in terms of being friendly to China.

1685
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 20: She pulled Italy out of the Belton Rode initiative. You remember,

1686
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 20: Italy was the only G seven country to join the

1687
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 20: big infrastructure projects that president she set up the Belton

1688
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 20: Rode Initiative, which she said that was a big mistake,

1689
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,879
Speaker 20: it was a waste of time, it brought no benefits

1690
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 20: to Italy. When she became Prime Minister, she pulled Italy

1691
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 20: out of that. She also has been one of the

1692
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 20: biggest supporters putting tarifs on Chinese companies, particularly ev makers.

1693
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 20: And then if you go back even further back in

1694
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 20: two thousand and eight, she was actually a junior minister

1695
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 20: in Sylvia Bernasconi's government and at the time of the

1696
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 20: Beijing Olympics, she urged the boycott of the Olympics, so

1697
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 20: a China's human rights record. So I don't know how

1698
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 20: much China is going to see her as being someone

1699
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 20: that that's that reliable when it comes to mediation.

1700
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 3: Please tell me she can speak Mandarin those she can't

1701
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 3: of course, Okay, you would have thought that you would

1702
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: have had an independent mediator, perhaps from the Americas or whatever,

1703
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: because she's got a dog in the game. But there

1704
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: we go. Interesting, We'll watch that very very carefully. Now,

1705
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:28,640
Speaker 3: TikTok and in China, and of course America doesn't like it.

1706
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,759
Speaker 3: What's their problems?

1707
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 20: Well, it says that first of all, it spies on

1708
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 20: American teenagers, collects loads of data about them, and then

1709
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 20: sends it back to China, which Beijing can.

1710
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 17: Then use to target the American audience.

1711
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 20: Through social media and in particular young people in China,

1712
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 20: influence their their approach and beliefs on China and even influence.

1713
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 17: Things like the elections. Now TikTok denies that.

1714
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 20: It says it doesn't send anything back to China, and

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Speaker 20: if it was asked by the Chinese government, it would

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Speaker 20: refuse to do so. Now that would be rather difficult,

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Speaker 20: I think for TikTok because the Chinese the government does

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Speaker 20: expect its companies to sort of be another.

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Speaker 17: Arm of the state, if you like. So the US

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Speaker 17: government has put a ban on TikTok.

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Speaker 20: It's got to either bite beside the divest itself of

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Speaker 20: TikTok by January or face a countrywide ban. TikTok is

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Speaker 20: suing the US governments now. In the latest briefing that

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Speaker 20: the US government has just filed. It says that by

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Speaker 20: Dance and TikTok have this secret sort of social media platform,

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Speaker 20: internal media platform called Lock, and it uses that to

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01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:52,799
Speaker 20: spy on Americans and get their views about controversial subjects

1728
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 20: like abortion, like gay rights and so on, and then

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Speaker 20: feeds that back to China through this system called Lock.

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Speaker 20: So that the US government says that this really the

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Speaker 20: gates TikTok's arguments, that it's got this this independence, if

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Speaker 20: you like service, this data service that's been set up

1733
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 20: by Oracle, which stores all of TikTok's data and can

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Speaker 20: make sure that none of that goes back to China. Well,

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Speaker 20: the US government says, of course, that's all violated by

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Speaker 20: this this Lark system and other things that TikTok does.

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Speaker 3: I really feel for some poor Chinese person who has

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01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 3: to sit there and see the mountain of TikTok produced

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Speaker 3: by American teenagers and try to ascertain some sort of

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01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: sense to it.

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Speaker 20: All, you know, and American American teenagers. If you answer,

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01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 20: they say, we don't care, and exactly, I'm.

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01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 17: Not that interesting. Even why does the government want all

1744
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Speaker 17: this information on me?

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01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 3: They say, whatever? And I don't vote anyway. And by

1746
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 3: the way, have you seen the leaders from Taylor Swift?

1747
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 3: And this is how we dance? I know, I get

1748
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 3: this all right? Give me with the smart stuff Apple.

1749
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 3: Apple has dropped out of the top five smart phone

1750
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: sellers in China, I would presume because the Chinese phones

1751
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,759
Speaker 3: just get bitter and bitter from more the technology they've stolen.

1752
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 17: Part that's what the US government will say.

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Speaker 20: In fact, it's noticed the board that now all top

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01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,719
Speaker 20: five manufacturers in China are domestic manufacturers. So the number

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Speaker 20: one is Lwei, which is faced a lot of sanctions

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Speaker 20: from the US but nevertheless has been able to develop

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Speaker 20: chips to power it's iPhones. And then also you've got

1758
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Speaker 20: firms like Vivo and Opper up there shellb Be, which

1759
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Speaker 20: also has been developing electric.

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Speaker 17: Cars is up there.

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Speaker 20: The top five apples dropped down for number six, although

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Speaker 20: Apple says it's still got a very strong business in China.

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Speaker 20: But if you look at Apple's results which came out yesterday,

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Speaker 20: in fact, it did report that its sales in Greater

1765
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 20: China area, which includes Mainlanchai and Taiwan and Hong Kong,

1766
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 20: decline six percent. So it is coming under a lot

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Speaker 20: of pressure from these local rivals that introduce competing products.

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Speaker 20: Someone did say to we are they going to go

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Speaker 20: the same way as BlackBerry did? I don't think so,

1770
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Speaker 20: because Apple has got a whole ecosystem around it. It

1771
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 20: doesn't just depend upon the iPhone. It's got particularly its

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01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 20: services like iTunes and its cloud business, so it has

1773
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 20: got a very big ecosystem that can offset the decline

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Speaker 20: in sales in China. In fact, we saw that in

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Speaker 20: Apple's results yesterday they still managed i think a five

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Speaker 20: percent gain in revenues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well interesting as I've always been confused that

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01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 3: why BlackBerry did not work, and maybe it was just

1779
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 3: a product before its time, because the encryption that was

1780
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 3: available on BlackBerry's will go down. Just to treat these

1781
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 3: days with all their with all the sort of that's

1782
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Speaker 3: happening right now, Peter. I like to thank you very much,

1783
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: enjoy your weekend, enjoy the Olympics, and we'll talk again later.

1784
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,719
Speaker 3: It is sixteen minutes to seven, and on the Chinese phones.

1785
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 3: Can I just say that Glenn, the technical producer of

1786
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: the Mike Hosking Breakles Show, reviewed the Oppo Ritz wristwatch

1787
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 3: which came out the other day and said, Wow, this

1788
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 3: is a really good piece of kit. Those Chinese phones

1789
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 3: are very very good. Indeed, it's a quarter to seven

1790
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: and we're off to Europe in a mo.

1791
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1792
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and my HR, the HR platform for

1793
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: SME US talks.

1794
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Speaker 3: They'd be as the time. It's now thirteen minutes to seven.

1795
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 3: I guess the Olympics really gets under way around about

1796
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 3: nine ten for us with the athletics and Santana, whose

1797
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 3: are the fifteen hundred meters. We've got the heats of

1798
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 3: the one hundred meters for women, Zoe Hobbs and that.

1799
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 3: But later on after ten we're into the sailing, with

1800
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 3: particularly the later on the chance of Josh Armatt and

1801
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 3: the foiling to do well, and of course the forty

1802
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 3: nine effixes as well. So all of that is happening

1803
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Speaker 3: on gold Sport. It is now twelve minutes to seven,

1804
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 3: and I say good evening to Kay Oliver Are UK

1805
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Speaker 3: and Europe correspondent.

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Speaker 6: Hell okay, hello to you, Andrew so or.

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Speaker 3: The Algibaji after what happened of course in Stockport and

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01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:26,839
Speaker 3: the riot says people misinformation caused people to actually rebel

1809
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 3: against mosques and police and Downing Street and or what's

1810
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 3: the latest to have happened.

1811
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Speaker 6: Well, the latest is that, obviously deeply concerned by all this,

1812
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Speaker 6: the British Fire Minister Sekir Starmer has held this meeting

1813
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Speaker 6: of police chiefs in Downing Street and they've come up

1814
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 6: with a number of recommendations which basically mean they have

1815
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 6: said they're going to clamp down on the people they're

1816
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 6: calling a tiny, mindless minority challenge driven by the far

1817
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 6: right hatred, and they're now going to set up facial

1818
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 6: recognition criminal behavior orders basically in a bid for police

1819
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 6: forces across the country to work together to stamp out

1820
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 6: what they're calling this mindless violence. And obviously the Southport

1821
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 6: stabbings have caused a lot of unrest in this country.

1822
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 6: We know that there are a number of protests planned

1823
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 6: in the wake of these of these of these obviously

1824
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 6: horrible incidents, and it would appear that people have taken

1825
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 6: to the streets. Sakir Starmer has come up with this

1826
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Speaker 6: plan to clamp down on what he sees as mindless violence.

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Speaker 6: But obviously people here are talking about two tier policing.

1828
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 6: They've said that there were one hundred arrests in London

1829
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 6: following civil disturbance two nights ago, and seven men have

1830
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 6: been charged after violent disorder in Hartlepool. And I think

1831
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 6: the feeling is Andrew that this is spreading and they've

1832
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 6: got to deal with it quickly. Sirkir Starmer has said

1833
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 6: he's going to roll up his sleeves and meet the challenge.

1834
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 6: It's not a blame game, but they are of the

1835
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 6: politics of service, so they want to they want to

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01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 6: stop it fast. It remains to be seen what is

1837
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 6: going to happen, but clearly it has been a week

1838
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 6: of disturbance here.

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01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 3: Indeed, I think it would be a mistake to actually

1840
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 3: call it a minority. There is actually a large number

1841
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 3: of people in your country who are very concerned about

1842
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 3: the immigration settings. Unfortunately in this case they got misinformed

1843
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 3: about the the from where this bloke came from in

1844
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 3: the first place and what the situation was, and then

1845
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 3: they're inflamed the violence. But you're going to the violence

1846
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: might be self begetting after a while, it won't be

1847
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: about the original incident in Southport, k It'll be actually

1848
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: between those people anti immigration and the police forces. So

1849
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 3: there's a very tight.

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01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 6: Line to walk, absolutely and they are some MPs here

1851
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 6: have said that perhaps a kere starmer is not reading

1852
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 6: the rule correctly. He's the room and we wait to

1853
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 6: see what's going to happen. But it is, as you

1854
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 6: quite say, a fine line.

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01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 3: But here's some good news. Two the injured girls came home.

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Speaker 9: They did.

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01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 6: Two of the little girls have come home. We know

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01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 6: that they were. All the injured have been treated at

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01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 6: several hospitals across Salthport, all Day Hospital. Two have come

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01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 6: home and we're just hoping and praying that the others

1861
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 6: come home and it's an equally good result. But it

1862
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 6: has been a week of sadness for Salesport, for the

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01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 6: whole country. The tributes have grown and grown. I think

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01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 6: one sign of the community in Southport is that lots

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01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 6: of teddybears had been left at the tribute and basically

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01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 6: the community was so concerned that these teddy bears were

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01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 6: going to get soaked by a downpor the rain that

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01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 6: we've had here that they actually took them all inside

1869
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 6: for the night and then brought them back out again.

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01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 6: And this is the most beautiful memory for these young

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01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 6: girls there is the community are pulling together in Southport

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01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 6: and that's a message that everyone wants to get out.

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01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 6: It's all about love and care and looking after the

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01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,560
Speaker 6: bereaved families and it's it's getting sidetracked andrew by what

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Speaker 6: else is going on.

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Speaker 3: An interior tidybar's picnic. I love the I think I

1877
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 3: love the idea of it all. Now, for the first

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01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 3: time in sixty years, family doctors are going to go

1879
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 3: on strike.

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01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 6: Well, people here are already having to queue up for

1881
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,879
Speaker 6: doctor's appointments and now it's going to get an awful

1882
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 6: lot worse because nearly nine thousand gps in England have

1883
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,799
Speaker 6: taken part in the British Medical Association's ballot, with ninety

1884
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 6: eight point three percent backing mass action, at the center

1885
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 6: of which is a row over new contracts and it

1886
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 6: means that GPS could slash the number of appointments in

1887
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 6: England by a third, just seeing twenty five patients a day. Now,

1888
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 6: this is all part of this row over contracts. Patients

1889
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 6: groups are worn here that this industrial action could lead

1890
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 6: to a disaster in cancer care and warn that A

1891
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 6: and E waiting times are basically going to explode, be

1892
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 6: worse than ever, up to twelve hours in some hospitals already.

1893
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 6: NHS England has urged patients to come forward for care

1894
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 6: as usual, but the BMA leaders are saying that the

1895
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 6: action could last for months until ministers agree to a

1896
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 6: new GP contract. So yeah, first time in sixty years

1897
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 6: and it's really not going to be good for anybody

1898
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 6: who wants urgent or needs to have a medical issue

1899
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 6: discussed at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's your bettle lines, immigration and the NHS and

1901
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 3: that's just the debate that has been and when you've

1902
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 3: got a new Prime minister who has to do it.

1903
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 3: Ka enjoy your weekend, Good luck for any anyone you're

1904
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 3: supporting in the Olympics, and thank you so much for

1905
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 3: your time today. This is news. Talk to you'll be

1906
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Speaker 3: oh oh, I'll take you after the break hold.

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Speaker 2: On whether it's micro micro or just play in economics.

1908
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Speaker 1: It's all on The Business Hour with Heather Dupleicy Ellen

1909
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Speaker 1: and my HR, the HR platform for sp Right.

1910
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Speaker 3: What I was so excited about is Andy Murray is

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01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 3: out of the Olympics doubles and that means that's the

1912
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 3: end of tennis. And he did a speech and you

1913
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 3: know what he said. He said, I never really liked

1914
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 3: tennis anyway, I like Andy. All right, time to go,

1915
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 3: haven't got much time play some music.

1916
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Speaker 18: Ants John Mayer to take us out tonight. Your body

1917
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 18: is a wonderland. So John Mayer had a bit of

1918
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 18: an accident last week. He injured his left index finger

1919
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Speaker 18: in a truck door.

1920
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 3: That's bad for a guitarist. Yeah, yeah, there you go in.

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Speaker 18: I mean, you know what, most of us can probably

1922
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 18: get by without it, but his job kind of relies

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01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 18: on it. So and especially he's going to be playing

1924
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 18: at the Las Vegas Sphere, like that big fancy thing

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Speaker 18: with all.

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Speaker 3: The graphics and stuff. Will be fine.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, well, he's going to Well, he's been teaching himself

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Speaker 18: how to play guitar without the index finger for the

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Speaker 18: last couple of weeks, and he promises he should be pretty.

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Speaker 3: Goods A guy called Tim Man who was in Blam

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