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Speaker 1: Right, Gavin Gray is going to be the US since

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Speaker 1: ten minutes turns out that fire bombing that was taking

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Speaker 1: place read Keir Starmer's properties is a couple of houses

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Speaker 1: might have been a hostile foreign state involved that. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get the latest from Gavin when he's with US shortly.

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Speaker 1: Incoming news, the Privilegious Committee has just released its decision

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Speaker 1: on what to do with the Maori Party. MPs Hannah

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Speaker 1: Hannah Arftzi might be Clarke has suspended from the House

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Speaker 1: for seven days. Debingari were Packer severely censured, suspended from

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Speaker 1: the House for twenty one days. Rahweru Whitit he severely censured,

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Speaker 1: suspended from the House for twenty one days. And the

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Speaker 1: reason why they're being punished like this is for acting

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Speaker 1: in a manner that could have the effect of intimidating

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Speaker 1: a member of the House and the discharge of their duty.

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Speaker 1: So just to be clear, it's not because they did

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Speaker 1: a hucker, right, It's because they got up out of

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Speaker 1: their seats, approached David Seymour and behaved in a threatening

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Speaker 1: way in front of him. Now that just happens to

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Speaker 1: Watson name Debbie Pollen, the gun whatever, it's all of that.

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Speaker 1: It's not for that. It's for trying to intimidate him.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Treasury it turns out, is facing possible legal action after

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Speaker 1: barring organizations from next week's budget lockup. These organizations that

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Speaker 1: would ordinarily be in the budget lock up. The Taxpayers

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Speaker 1: Union is threatening a judicial review unless they get access

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Speaker 1: like they normally would have, and it turns out Infrastructure

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Speaker 1: New Zealand is also barred. The chief executive is Nick

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Speaker 1: Legg at Hay Nick, Hi, Heather, you prepared to do

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Speaker 1: anything like what the Taxpayers Union is doing.

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Speaker 2: Not at the stage, but we do want to obviously

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Speaker 2: draw people's edge to the fact that, you know, the

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Speaker 2: government stated intenders to improve infrastructure investment, make New Zealand

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Speaker 2: more productive, get our economy going, and it just seems

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Speaker 2: odd to bar Infrastructure New Zealand, business, New Zealand people

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Speaker 2: that represent you know, a lot of businesses and organizations

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Speaker 2: and some local government and government agencies as well. When

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Speaker 2: we're all trying to row in the same direction. It

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Speaker 2: seems pretty random. I mean, I thought this was a lockdown,

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Speaker 2: not a lockout. You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very good point. Have they told you why you've

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Speaker 2: No, no they haven't. I'm sure why.

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Speaker 1: I want to have a guess, because one of the theories,

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Speaker 1: one of the working theories, is that Nikola Willis just

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Speaker 1: cannot be faffed with the ced to you and the

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Speaker 1: Taxpayer's Union, and so she's just barred everybody basically to

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Speaker 1: get them out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the case. It's a shame because

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Speaker 2: everybody's got an interest in the budget, and all of

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Speaker 2: those two organizations that you've named and a few others,

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Speaker 2: we all actually want to be constructive and we want

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Speaker 2: to get the oil on the budget as soon as

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Speaker 2: possible so we can communicate what we see to the

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Speaker 2: people that we work for and we represent, and the

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Speaker 2: to public as well. I mean, you think about it.

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Speaker 2: On budget day, you'll have some analysis heether, you'll hear

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Speaker 2: from the politicians actually those of us that can provide

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Speaker 2: a bit more information to your listeners and a bit

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Speaker 2: more analysis. It's useful, right, It's useful for the whole discussion.

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Speaker 1: Well, on that subject. On this, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Although the political editor of the station does not agree

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Speaker 1: with you, Jason Walls. He says he doesn't need someone

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Speaker 1: like you in there to tell him how to read

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the things. It's not about him, it's about

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Speaker 2: the people that listen to him. So if you want

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Speaker 2: to talk about what's good for business, actually talking to

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Speaker 2: Katherine Richard Business New Zealand and hearing what her and

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Speaker 2: her team make at the budget, that's kind of an

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Speaker 2: important angle, just one of many. But you know, we

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Speaker 2: represent tens of thousands of businesses and employees between us

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Speaker 2: and individuals these organizations that have been barred, and it

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Speaker 2: just seems odd to exclude us in the room. But

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Speaker 2: there will be selective businesses and other organizations included. I

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Speaker 2: just don't understand the thinking behind it, I guess. And look,

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Speaker 2: got a good relationship. It's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: And not to mention the fact that is it one

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Speaker 1: of the five pillars of the budget is infrastructure. So actually,

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Speaker 1: if the budget's going to be about infrastructure, then surely

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Speaker 1: there's value in having Infrastructure New Zealand. They're looking at it.

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Speaker 2: Well. We've been there in other years and it's worked

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Speaker 2: pretty well. And we've been there to give commentary to

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Speaker 2: the media and provide information and context when infrastructure type

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Speaker 2: things and funds are announced by the Finance minister. This

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Speaker 2: is just part of democracy here there, I think, and

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Speaker 2: it's a shame to sort of exclude just a few groups.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we want obviously the government to reconsider and

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Speaker 2: we'll be asking for that.

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Speaker 1: Nick. Thank you, I really appreciate it. Nick Leget's Chief

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