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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to Thursday. Just gone six minutes after five.

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the program this morning, the road user charges,

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Speaker 3: how will the truckees fare?

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Speaker 3: It going to make Yeah, because that's how we get

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Speaker 3: Z on the employment numbers, the grocery report out wild

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Speaker 3: reporting on this report. By the way, I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: if you had a guess, how do you think we

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Speaker 3: compare our grocery prices to the average of the OECD.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you the answer to that question, and it

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Speaker 3: will surprise you. I think India be Trump this morning,

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Speaker 3: and this American hunter in South Africa who became the hunted.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the seventh of August. Steve Whitcoff, this

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Speaker 3: is Trump's guy and Putin. They've had their meeting. Russia

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Speaker 3: says it was constructive.

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Speaker 4: The thing that's stuffing the Russians from saying more about

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Speaker 4: what sort of signals the two men exchange was that

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Speaker 4: Steve Whitgob has to report back to Donald Trump, but

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Speaker 4: what he has discussed without then we will know more.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Trump's slapping India with a twenty five percent terror

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Speaker 3: for buying Russian oil. This is on top of the

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Speaker 3: That's one of the highest the US is ever imposed.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be very disappointing to the Indian government.

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Speaker 3: President Modi and Donald Trump have enjoyed a strong, good relationship.

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Speaker 3: And remember the Mastershift controversy. How could you forget this

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Speaker 3: is the BBC over in the UK deciding to air

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Speaker 3: the series that they filmed before the slightly dodgy hosts

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Speaker 2: Not everyone's happy or watching it.

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Speaker 6: It's absolutely not for me, as the Culture Secretary and

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Speaker 7: A viewer, as a viewer and a license fee pay

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Speaker 7: or do you think you should be shown.

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Speaker 8: As a viewer?

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Speaker 9: I won't be watching it like every member of the public.

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Speaker 10: I'm absolutely a pulled that that was allowed to happen.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the news of the Day Early

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and expol Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes

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Speaker 1: warm and dry. This winter news Talk, sa'd be.

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Speaker 3: You got to be careful who you pick for these

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Speaker 2: It's very difficult to edit people out of a show.

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Speaker 3: But once you've filmed it, once it's in the can,

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Speaker 3: it's basically done and dusted, and you've got to air.

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Speaker 2: It, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise it's an enormous waste of money. Now, speaking of

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Speaker 3: enormous waste of money, that's what it feels like we

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Speaker 3: a grocery report out from the ComCom yesterday. It's their

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Speaker 2: Now, this is.

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Speaker 3: Why we feel poor. The numbers consumers are paying between

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Speaker 2: So that's why we feel poor.

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Speaker 3: Now, all the headlines from this report are very much

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Speaker 3: But actually, if you look at the numbers in the report,

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Speaker 3: we're now three percent above the OECD average the price

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Speaker 3: Three percent. Now, I don't know about you, but that

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Speaker 3: Businesses in New Zealand for a three percent on average

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the employment.

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Speaker 3: We had the number yesterday slightly better than what we

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Speaker 3: the moment. Katie Fishers are US correspondent. She'll be with

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Speaker 3: us after five point thirty this morning, just gone thirteen

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Speaker 3: after Bryan Bread unemployments at its highest level since twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: now sitting at five point two percent. That's sixteen thousand

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Speaker 3: with full time jobs down two percent last quarter. Carolyn

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Speaker 3: good morning, whatever how are you guys feeling about looking ahead?

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Speaker 3: Is this the worst it'll get? Do you think for

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Speaker 11: Look, it's really hard to tell. We have an advice

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Speaker 11: Like this, Well, we really need greater consumer confidence. That's

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Speaker 11: the key driver for the most discernible retail because if

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Speaker 3: She and I watched the press conference yesterday. She made

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Speaker 3: She actually said that this number, this employment was bad,

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Speaker 2: What do you actually want them to do?

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Speaker 2: But what actually what specific.

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Speaker 3: Actions other than taking on more debt do we want

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Speaker 3: Nikola Wallace to do seventeen minutes after five, Grocery prices,

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Speaker 3: minutes after five. Now the Commerce Commission's latest grocery reports out,

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Speaker 3: and not much has changed. Big two supermarket chains dominating

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Speaker 3: still eighty two percent market share. We're paying the fifth

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Hey Ernie, good to have you on the show. Now.

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Speaker 3: Is this The number that struck me was three percent.

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Speaker 3: So we're paying, on average three percent more than the

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Speaker 3: OECD average for our food?

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Speaker 2: Is that bad? Oh?

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Speaker 5: It is for a country like this, which is an

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Speaker 12: We should be.

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Speaker 5: Paying way way below the OECD average, and you know

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Speaker 5: years ago we did. The problem is that part too much.

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Speaker 3: The thing is we we're an export nation, right we

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say most. Well, yeah, in certain markets we do, yes,

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Speaker 5: and the dairy and horticulture industries, that's true, but there's

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Speaker 5: a huge amount of local produce where the problem here

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Speaker 5: excessive profitability of the retail sector. And I guess there

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Speaker 5: are also problems with distribution because you know, well, we

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Speaker 5: all feel good when volunteer is doing well, but that's

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Speaker 5: not being passed through the community. That's all going to

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Speaker 5: the farmers and not being passed through to consumers. And

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Speaker 5: that's why it's creating a increasing and a huge imbalance

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Speaker 3: But the farmers have invested their time, energy and money

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Speaker 3: It's been bloody, terrible hurts day, Ernie, appreciate you coming

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Speaker 2: Talks he be, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Twenty six minutes after five, there's a new space race

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Speaker 3: there anything more thrilling than watching two countries battle at

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Speaker 2: They're up there.

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Speaker 3: But of course the politicians have other plans, don't they.

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Speaker 3: This is about nationalism, it's about defense and territory. Everyone

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Speaker 2: To us here on Earth, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: The seasons, the crops, the oceans, our entire lives are

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Speaker 3: So even if these guys do blow something up, what's.

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Speaker 2: One more crater?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: I'm basically frothing at the chomping at the bit here

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Speaker 2: It's that I want to know.

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Speaker 3: Is the number to text loads of texts on groceries? Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I don't earn a huge amount, says Taylor. I don't

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Speaker 3: I said, dear God, yeah, Taylor, I hear you. Question

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Speaker 3: The problem we have is a small population spread over

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Speaker 2: Text twenty nine minutes after five.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to get to the road user charges

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Speaker 2: AB tar flaeres tar flowers and only twice.

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Speaker 3: regards to the supermarket prices we were talking about earlier. Ryan,

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Speaker 3: As a farmer, it's pretty frustrating when I hear people

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Speaker 3: We paid gest for contexts, farmers were making more profit

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Speaker 2: What is up with these leg traps in Southland?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 13: So, the SBA is concerned after more than a hundred

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Speaker 13: It's partly cloudy today with some northeasterlies and the odd

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Speaker 3: Thank you Cliars in Christay clear, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now you're worried about.

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Speaker 3: The students in the city and police offices.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, this was the tip off into the newsroom yesterday

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Speaker 2: How's your weather, Claire, fine, A bit of.

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Speaker 14: High cloud, a little bit of frost about this morning too.

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Speaker 2: You have a great day.

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Speaker 3: I've been absolutely frothing to get to Max Max. Good morning,

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Speaker 3: Good morning, big first mayoral debate in Wellington, popcorn out,

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Speaker 3: We're really what happened?

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Speaker 12: he wasn't included arguing with organizers berating stuff at Victoria

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Speaker 12: University's law school, eventually getting himself barred while complaining about

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Speaker 12: the collapse of democracy or something. Perhaps a bit of

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Speaker 12: a stunt, perhaps fair that not every mayoral candidate was invited,

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Speaker 12: but ultimately yes, descending into chaos at vic Toria University

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Speaker 12: last night. Also announced last night Worth pointing out a

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Speaker 12: Wellington assigned a friendly city agreement with the Palestinian city

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Speaker 12: of Ramala, obviously Palestine experiencing severe hardship at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Mayor Tory Finos says this is a powerful symbol of solidarity, goodness.

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Speaker 3: May all right, we'll look forward to the next debate.

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Speaker 12: How's the weather, Yes, perhaps more people invited, perhaps not cloudy?

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Speaker 12: Period's north least fourteen the high central.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and nevas that are here in

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Speaker 3: Auckland with me, Hey Neva, good morning. A flyover for

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Speaker 3: Auckland's Eastern busway opening October.

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Speaker 9: Now this could be breaking news five months ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 2: When does that happened in Auckland?

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Speaker 3: Never exactly so.

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Speaker 9: This will create a direct connection between Puckadunga Road, Puckadhunga Highway,

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Speaker 9: now the flyovers expected. This obviously will reduce congestion around

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Speaker 9: the town center, which contains one of New Zealand's busiest intersections.

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Speaker 9: So Auckland transporters warning look there will be lane reductions

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Speaker 9: in the area between September twenty October twenty four. The

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Speaker 9: busway is expected to be for by twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 9: so this is just a flyover that's going to be

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Speaker 9: open in October.

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Speaker 3: Also, very good, great news and weather today cloudy.

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Speaker 9: We've got a few shells as well, a little bit

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Speaker 9: warmer today. Sixteen is high here in Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Have a good one, nev It is just gone eighteen

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Speaker 3: minutes away from six here. On news talks, thereb lots

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Speaker 3: to get to Katie Fisher out of America for US.

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Speaker 3: five soldiers have been shot. At this point, we'll get

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Speaker 3: Finished shooting on an army based in Georgia and the

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Speaker 3: United States.

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Speaker 2: Katie Fishes are correspondent. Katie. What's the lightest with this?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we've been told that the lockdown has now

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Speaker 6: been partially lifted at the Fort Stuart Hunter Army Airfield

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Speaker 6: in Georgia, just south of Savannah. We understand that a

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Speaker 6: gunman was apprehended about forty minutes after authorities were initially

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Speaker 6: alerted to this, and that five soldiers have been shot.

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Speaker 6: They were treated at the scene and they've now been

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Speaker 6: taken to an army hospital, although the base hasn't said

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Speaker 6: what the nature of their injuries is, but there have

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Speaker 6: been at this stage no fatalities. They also didn't provide

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Speaker 6: any information about the suspect who is now in custody,

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Speaker 6: but they did say there's no active threat to the community.

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Speaker 6: And as I say, that lockdown has been partially lifted

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Speaker 6: except for the area where the shooting specifically took place,

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Speaker 6: which is now being an active crime scene. So clearly

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Speaker 6: very worrying for all those involved. The discussions now about

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Speaker 6: whether this was somebody who came from outside the base

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Speaker 6: to commit this shooting, or whether it was an insider

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Speaker 6: someone who already was based on this base. Eight eight

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Speaker 6: hundred people live and work there, so there are a

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Speaker 6: lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Mass of one of the biggest ones apparently now Wick,

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Speaker 3: Coffs and Moscow obviously. And now Trump's going after India

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Speaker 3: with an additional twenty five percent tariff for buying Russian oil.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. He announced today that he's now going

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Speaker 6: to double tariffs on India. The initial twenty five percent

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Speaker 6: tariff that was already on the country will go in

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Speaker 6: to will t take effect from tomorrow, which was when

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Speaker 6: those his last postponement comes back. They all go in tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Then in three weeks time, he's saying there will be

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Speaker 6: another twenty five percent tariff because he said that they

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Speaker 6: are trading they're buying cheap oil from Russia, which is

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Speaker 6: propping up Russia's war efforts in Ukraine, and then they're

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Speaker 6: also using some of this oil to make products that

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Speaker 6: are then selling out to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 6: He says that it's unfair and he wants to punish

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Speaker 6: them for doing that, and this does kind of tie

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Speaker 6: in to Steve Witcoff's visit to Moscow today, that is

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Speaker 6: Trump's special envoy in Moscow meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 6: to talk about an end to this war. Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: has put a deadline of Friday to say that Russia

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Speaker 6: must stop its war in Ukraine all face further sanctions,

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Speaker 6: and these sanctions could include what he's calling secondary sanctions,

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Speaker 6: which is sanctioning countries who buy cheap Russian oil. Already,

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Speaker 6: he's decided that India is going to be punished for this,

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Speaker 6: but there are other countries like China and Turkey who

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Speaker 6: also buy this oil, and his hope is that by

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Speaker 6: punishing them and stopping them from perhaps buying it, it

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Speaker 6: will damage Russia's economy even more. But you know, this

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Speaker 6: is Donald Trump done. It's not Friday yet, so we

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Speaker 6: don't actually know what's happened coming out of the meeting.

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Speaker 6: It was just kind of that the lines were very

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Speaker 6: useful and constructive, but certainly no definite yes, you know,

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Speaker 6: a definite end to the war or definite sanctions.

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Speaker 3: And he hasn't actually put the tariffs on yet. That's

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Speaker 3: still to come to Katie Fisher, our US correspondent. Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much for your time. Just gone ten away from

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Speaker 3: six Bryan Bridge. TiAl texts are out. Road user charges

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Speaker 3: are in for everyone. The government scrapping the two tier

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Speaker 3: system where petrol drivers paid at the pump, diesel and

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Speaker 3: EV's paid per kilometer though not their fair share, and

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Speaker 3: the new system will be electronic and reflect our changing

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Speaker 3: vehicle fleet according to the government. Justin ti Umbers is

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Speaker 3: the National Road Carrier Association CEO. Justin good morning, good morning, right,

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Speaker 3: what are truckies? And I know people don't like that

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Speaker 3: term anymore, but what do they think of it?

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Speaker 2: What does it mean for them?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I think what it means ultimately for yeh truckees,

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Speaker 10: road transport operators is going to be that we'll get

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Speaker 10: our roads paid for in a better way than what

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Speaker 10: we are at the mind. So there's a big leak

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Speaker 10: in the bucket, Ryan, and that's you know, we're just

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Speaker 10: not bringing in enough from the current system, from the

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Speaker 10: fuel tax at the pump. The numbers billions actually in

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Speaker 10: terms of what we're behind for what we need to

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Speaker 10: maintain our current network and hopefully build some better roads.

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Speaker 10: So no road freight industry will be pleased with us.

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Speaker 3: Change does it make it cheaper for road freight.

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Speaker 10: Look, we want to see the network paid for in

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Speaker 10: a fair share. And what happens when you move to

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Speaker 10: ruckers the road user charges. You start paying by weight

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Speaker 10: and distance traveled, which is actually fairer than paying for

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Speaker 10: what you pay for it the pump, because that just

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Speaker 10: depends on how efficient your petrol engine is. So road

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Speaker 10: freight will continue to want to pay for their fair share.

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Speaker 10: But absolutely plugging this gap, we've got cars that aren't

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Speaker 10: paying for the fair usage that will certainly make it better.

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Speaker 3: None of this is coming until twenty twenty seven the earliest.

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Speaker 3: Should the government be making it more of a priority.

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Speaker 3: Should it be happening sooner than that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you could argue that the challenges I guess is

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Speaker 10: that the government of the Crown is having to put

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Speaker 10: in grants, taxpayer money is having to go in to

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Speaker 10: prop up maintaining the road network. So certainly we need

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Speaker 10: to get on with it. That said, it's a once

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Speaker 10: and fifty year change. Every country around the world's actually

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Speaker 10: facing this problem where you've got evs and far more

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Speaker 10: efficient petrol engines just reducing how roading's paid for. New

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Speaker 10: Zealand's actually and We're in quite a good position because

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Speaker 10: we're world pioneers in road user charges. We were the

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Speaker 10: first to bring it out in the late seventies. We're

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Speaker 10: still a world leader on it with electronic ruck for

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Speaker 10: how trucks pay for it, so we're actually in quite

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Speaker 10: a strong position compared to other countries.

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Speaker 3: Justin great to have you on the show as always,

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Speaker 3: Justin timba's National Road Carry Association CEO. Here on News

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Speaker 3: Talk CB, I've got a story about one hundred out

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Speaker 3: of South Africa.

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Speaker 2: Well it's a shocker actually.

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Speaker 3: And also the cyclists are not paying anything for road

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Speaker 3: user charges, and I just wonder whether you think they

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Speaker 3: should be and in fund their own cycle ways.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be lovely?

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Speaker 7: Seven away from six the news you need this morning

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Speaker 3: Talks, he'd be five to six on news Talks, he'd

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Speaker 3: be So there's the hunter from America. I was mentioning

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Speaker 3: earlier about hunting for buffalo in South Africa over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: stalking a cape buffalo, apparently one point three ton cape buffalo,

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Speaker 3: tracking it through the wilderness and thing turns around and

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Speaker 3: kills him. The hunter becomes the hunted. No species on

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Speaker 3: the planet apparently has a more fearsome reputation than a

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Speaker 3: cape buffalo. It will happen in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: Families devastated. This guy, by the way, normally because it's

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Speaker 3: all over social media now, but normally he is out

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Speaker 3: hunting mountain lions and deer and decided to go for

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Speaker 3: a buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Didn't work out well. Five to six. Mic is in

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Speaker 2: the studio now, Mike, good morning.

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Speaker 8: Greeting's Ryan.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the cyclists because this road user charge's

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Speaker 3: announcement is exempt of any cyclist having to pay a

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Speaker 3: road user charge, and we've got so many cycle ways

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Speaker 3: up and down the country, as you well know, and

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Speaker 3: they're not contributing anything.

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Speaker 2: How would you make them contribute.

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Speaker 3: Well, you'd have to put a little bell on them,

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Speaker 3: a little sticker on the.

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Speaker 2: Bike, bell on them. Well, now I've got a bell,

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Speaker 2: a little sticker.

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Speaker 3: On the bike, and every time they go past, there's

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Speaker 3: a zapping point.

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Speaker 2: You've got to electronically do it. You probably should.

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Speaker 8: It's not a bad argument because the whole argument is

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Speaker 8: based on the idea of wear and tear, and so

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Speaker 8: anyone who wears in tears, which is a bike, a

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Speaker 8: bike and motorcycles of course at which they do do Yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 8: I've tended to agree it's been an age older issue.

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Speaker 3: Because you have all of this infrastructure and they're not

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Speaker 3: paying for it, correct and some of it's really crap.

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Speaker 3: So maybe you'd get better infrastructure if they chipped in.

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Speaker 8: Do you know who's going to really suffer BEV owners

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Speaker 8: because on weight, which is what they're going to do

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Speaker 8: it all Bev's weigh a ton.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they're wait two and a half times, so.

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Speaker 3: You're going to wake up a better yet that's not anyway.

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Speaker 8: That and the Finance Minister and Kayi Belta song in

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Speaker 8: a checks.

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