1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. 3 00:00:14,307 --> 00:00:20,667 Speaker 2: Back to back victories for the Warriors here at twenty 4 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:27,507 Speaker 2: twenty five hasn't been easy for the home team. 5 00:00:26,987 --> 00:00:30,027 Speaker 3: And a real arm wrestle back to back indeed for 6 00:00:30,147 --> 00:00:32,787 Speaker 3: the Warriors after the loss to the Raiders first up 7 00:00:32,947 --> 00:00:35,707 Speaker 3: in Vegas. It's a great pleasure to welcome into the 8 00:00:35,747 --> 00:00:39,347 Speaker 3: news Talks EDB Studio Warriors head coach Andrew Webster. Andrew, 9 00:00:39,387 --> 00:00:40,867 Speaker 3: thank you so much for popping out. It's great to 10 00:00:40,867 --> 00:00:43,107 Speaker 3: see you. Thanks for spending some time with us. She 11 00:00:43,187 --> 00:00:45,667 Speaker 3: must come in as a pretty happy coach. I would 12 00:00:45,707 --> 00:00:48,627 Speaker 3: imagine with wins in the last two games against Manly 13 00:00:48,787 --> 00:00:53,347 Speaker 3: and the Roosters, what have been the keys to those victories? 14 00:00:53,907 --> 00:00:57,747 Speaker 4: I think definitely effort, scramble. Boys are scrambling for each other. 15 00:00:57,747 --> 00:01:00,827 Speaker 4: We I'm being perfect. I think we've actually conceded quite 16 00:01:00,827 --> 00:01:04,387 Speaker 4: a few line breaks, but we considered one try on 17 00:01:04,427 --> 00:01:07,307 Speaker 4: the weekend and there's so many o so close moments 18 00:01:07,547 --> 00:01:09,547 Speaker 4: for the opposition to score, and we found a way 19 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:12,147 Speaker 4: to get there and have each other's back and stop them. Definitely, 20 00:01:12,147 --> 00:01:14,787 Speaker 4: our Kickchase. I think we're putting teams where we want 21 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:17,267 Speaker 4: them to start their sets from, which is applying a 22 00:01:17,267 --> 00:01:19,507 Speaker 4: lot of pressure, and then we're coming over the top 23 00:01:19,747 --> 00:01:23,307 Speaker 4: when it matters. So lots to and work on, Like 24 00:01:23,347 --> 00:01:24,707 Speaker 4: we no, I know where we need to be, but 25 00:01:24,747 --> 00:01:26,907 Speaker 4: at least we're got plenty of effort and we're working 26 00:01:26,907 --> 00:01:28,827 Speaker 4: hard for each other. If we've got that at the 27 00:01:28,907 --> 00:01:31,067 Speaker 4: end of the season and we start playing better, then 28 00:01:31,107 --> 00:01:31,787 Speaker 4: that'll be good. 29 00:01:32,027 --> 00:01:34,507 Speaker 3: What happened in Vegas, No, we were poor. 30 00:01:34,707 --> 00:01:37,667 Speaker 4: Like I can't put my finger on it. I think 31 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:42,147 Speaker 4: I think it's a real lesson in Our preparation was 32 00:01:42,147 --> 00:01:44,467 Speaker 4: really good, but it's not as good as hit until, 33 00:01:44,467 --> 00:01:46,467 Speaker 4: like we came home the next week and our prep 34 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:49,747 Speaker 4: was even better. We tried to keep the boys busy 35 00:01:49,787 --> 00:01:51,467 Speaker 4: in Vegas, just to keep them away. 36 00:01:51,227 --> 00:01:52,347 Speaker 5: From all the distractions. 37 00:01:52,867 --> 00:01:55,267 Speaker 4: But in hindsight, look, I don't have the answers, but 38 00:01:55,467 --> 00:01:56,947 Speaker 4: I just want to put a line through it and 39 00:01:57,067 --> 00:01:58,507 Speaker 4: hopefully I'll never going back to Vegas. 40 00:01:58,707 --> 00:02:01,747 Speaker 3: I was going to ask that would you reconsider an 41 00:02:01,787 --> 00:02:04,787 Speaker 3: invitation to go back. It's a part of the NRLs strategy. 42 00:02:04,827 --> 00:02:06,667 Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of excitement, you know, 43 00:02:06,707 --> 00:02:08,947 Speaker 3: when the Warriors were selected as one of the teams 44 00:02:08,947 --> 00:02:10,787 Speaker 3: to go. I know the fans loved it. Would you 45 00:02:10,827 --> 00:02:13,507 Speaker 3: reconsider doing it again if you were invited? 46 00:02:14,027 --> 00:02:17,067 Speaker 4: Definitely. I mean it's not my decision. Really, I didn't 47 00:02:17,067 --> 00:02:18,707 Speaker 4: get to say this time, and I'm sure I won't 48 00:02:18,747 --> 00:02:19,627 Speaker 4: get to say next time. 49 00:02:19,667 --> 00:02:21,187 Speaker 5: But I'll support the concept. 50 00:02:21,347 --> 00:02:24,027 Speaker 4: Like I'm glad that we did go and glad our 51 00:02:24,067 --> 00:02:28,067 Speaker 4: fans got to see us there. So like, yeah, if 52 00:02:28,627 --> 00:02:30,387 Speaker 4: they wanted us to go again and it made sense 53 00:02:30,387 --> 00:02:33,907 Speaker 4: for our fans, then we'll take that to that tough 54 00:02:33,907 --> 00:02:37,107 Speaker 4: carry for everyone, but yeah, there was lots of love 55 00:02:37,147 --> 00:02:39,467 Speaker 4: about Look, we got to see and do some things 56 00:02:39,467 --> 00:02:41,347 Speaker 4: that some of our boys will never get to do in. 57 00:02:41,347 --> 00:02:42,067 Speaker 5: Their lives, you know. 58 00:02:42,187 --> 00:02:44,467 Speaker 4: So rugby league takes you all around the world. But 59 00:02:44,707 --> 00:02:46,427 Speaker 4: we're just disappointed we didn't do it for all those 60 00:02:46,427 --> 00:02:48,867 Speaker 4: fans because we were so well supported. Everywhere you walked, 61 00:02:49,267 --> 00:02:51,587 Speaker 4: you just saw Warriors fans and then now it fell 62 00:02:51,627 --> 00:02:52,027 Speaker 4: like we let. 63 00:02:52,027 --> 00:02:52,627 Speaker 5: Them down a bit. 64 00:02:53,227 --> 00:02:56,547 Speaker 3: Let's talk about a couple of players. Your half's combo, Chanell, Harris, Tavita, 65 00:02:56,627 --> 00:02:59,267 Speaker 3: Luke Metcalfe. You've selected them for the first three games. 66 00:02:59,267 --> 00:03:00,907 Speaker 3: In fact, it's been the same seventeen for the first 67 00:03:00,947 --> 00:03:02,907 Speaker 3: three games. Yeah, which has been terrific. What do you 68 00:03:02,907 --> 00:03:06,267 Speaker 3: predict for Chanelle and Luke as the season goes on. 69 00:03:06,667 --> 00:03:09,587 Speaker 4: I just think once they build that combination, they're going 70 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:12,187 Speaker 4: to thrive. Otherwise we wouldn't have them there. And we've 71 00:03:12,227 --> 00:03:16,747 Speaker 4: got two great backups in to Mighty and Tanner Boyd 72 00:03:16,947 --> 00:03:19,307 Speaker 4: that at any time we could call on and they 73 00:03:19,427 --> 00:03:21,467 Speaker 4: do a fantastic job. They're playing really good football in 74 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:23,987 Speaker 4: their own right and reserve great. At the moment, I 75 00:03:23,987 --> 00:03:26,907 Speaker 4: think these boys have had real glimpses of real good footing. 76 00:03:27,227 --> 00:03:29,747 Speaker 4: I think Vegas we didn't give them opportunity to Raiders 77 00:03:29,787 --> 00:03:30,787 Speaker 4: to show what they could do. 78 00:03:31,307 --> 00:03:32,787 Speaker 5: Off the bay the way we defended. 79 00:03:34,387 --> 00:03:37,307 Speaker 4: But yeah, I just think like round two, you've got 80 00:03:37,307 --> 00:03:40,067 Speaker 4: to see Luke Enchanell really thrive at the back into 81 00:03:40,107 --> 00:03:42,387 Speaker 4: the game. And the same thing happened on the weekend. 82 00:03:42,467 --> 00:03:43,587 Speaker 5: Like they want to. 83 00:03:43,507 --> 00:03:46,747 Speaker 4: Improve things we'd like them to improve, but we're absolutely 84 00:03:46,787 --> 00:03:49,307 Speaker 4: wrapped with what they're achieving so far, particularly with their 85 00:03:49,347 --> 00:03:52,227 Speaker 4: kicking game, Like they're putting the oppositions right where we wanted. 86 00:03:52,347 --> 00:03:53,747 Speaker 5: Like I said, so that's pretty cool. 87 00:03:54,187 --> 00:03:56,747 Speaker 3: How challenging has it been for Luke Metcalfe to step 88 00:03:56,787 --> 00:03:59,427 Speaker 3: into the boots of a club legend like Shawn Johnson. 89 00:04:00,707 --> 00:04:02,907 Speaker 4: You'd have to ask Luke. But on the surface, he 90 00:04:02,987 --> 00:04:06,307 Speaker 4: seems really cool. He seems he seems really calm about 91 00:04:06,427 --> 00:04:08,587 Speaker 4: what he wants to do, is excited for the next challenge, 92 00:04:08,707 --> 00:04:12,387 Speaker 4: he wants to rain. So what I've seen is a 93 00:04:12,387 --> 00:04:16,147 Speaker 4: guy who wants to improve every day. He knows what 94 00:04:16,187 --> 00:04:20,347 Speaker 4: he's good at. Yeah, I haven't noticed anything that it's 95 00:04:20,387 --> 00:04:23,107 Speaker 4: alarming or that he's struggling with the pressure. I think 96 00:04:24,347 --> 00:04:27,627 Speaker 4: Sean got to play, you know, over two hundred games 97 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 4: of NRL Lukes early on in his career, so there 98 00:04:31,067 --> 00:04:33,267 Speaker 4: are different different ends of the spectrum. 99 00:04:33,267 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think Luke's handling the situation really well. 100 00:04:36,187 --> 00:04:38,387 Speaker 3: And To Mighty played in the halfs quite a lot 101 00:04:38,467 --> 00:04:40,467 Speaker 3: last year. Are you still in your plans for twenty 102 00:04:40,507 --> 00:04:40,987 Speaker 3: twenty five. 103 00:04:41,187 --> 00:04:43,747 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to take a squad to win this 104 00:04:43,827 --> 00:04:46,707 Speaker 4: if we want to win it, and some stage s 105 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:48,547 Speaker 4: might is either going to force his way in there 106 00:04:48,667 --> 00:04:51,787 Speaker 4: or there's going to be an injury. And when he's 107 00:04:51,987 --> 00:04:53,947 Speaker 4: if he's ready, we've got a great, great guy in 108 00:04:53,987 --> 00:04:54,907 Speaker 4: Too Mighty to come in. 109 00:04:55,147 --> 00:04:58,027 Speaker 5: Like I said, same as Tana Boyd. So no, I 110 00:04:58,027 --> 00:04:59,107 Speaker 5: think we're very blessed. 111 00:04:59,107 --> 00:05:01,467 Speaker 4: There a lot of clubs love four halfbacks like we've got, 112 00:05:01,627 --> 00:05:04,507 Speaker 4: but you need them like they're so important for your depth. 113 00:05:04,587 --> 00:05:07,747 Speaker 4: And yeah, he's he's playing really good footing. 114 00:05:07,907 --> 00:05:11,187 Speaker 3: Any updated time frame on Delan Wat he's leason the 115 00:05:11,227 --> 00:05:12,067 Speaker 3: ext return. 116 00:05:12,067 --> 00:05:14,867 Speaker 4: No no, so Dylan, he goes back to the surgeon 117 00:05:14,907 --> 00:05:17,027 Speaker 4: this week, he gets the I think it's the wire. 118 00:05:17,347 --> 00:05:19,507 Speaker 4: Don't hold me to that wire or screw out this week, 119 00:05:19,547 --> 00:05:22,747 Speaker 4: and then that just basically starts working on how he 120 00:05:22,787 --> 00:05:25,147 Speaker 4: can get his strength and his range back and then 121 00:05:25,267 --> 00:05:27,867 Speaker 4: we'll know more. But I think that round tens the 122 00:05:27,907 --> 00:05:29,307 Speaker 4: plan at this stage. 123 00:05:29,467 --> 00:05:31,347 Speaker 3: From a wider point of view, they always say that 124 00:05:31,387 --> 00:05:33,387 Speaker 3: you shouldn't ride the highest too high or the lows 125 00:05:33,427 --> 00:05:37,387 Speaker 3: too low, And you always strike me as being very level. Yeah, 126 00:05:37,427 --> 00:05:40,147 Speaker 3: before a game, during a game, after a game, win 127 00:05:40,307 --> 00:05:43,787 Speaker 3: or lose, how do you manage your emotions, particularly after 128 00:05:43,827 --> 00:05:44,547 Speaker 3: a defeat. 129 00:05:44,747 --> 00:05:48,147 Speaker 4: I think the only pressure I put on is put 130 00:05:48,547 --> 00:05:51,867 Speaker 4: the pressure from myself. I mean, That's what I mean 131 00:05:51,867 --> 00:05:54,147 Speaker 4: by that is, I don't listen to the outside noise. 132 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,027 Speaker 4: I only care about the people in our four war. 133 00:05:56,187 --> 00:05:59,307 Speaker 4: So I think when you have high expectations, which I do, 134 00:05:59,627 --> 00:06:02,867 Speaker 4: I want to win and be successful. They're only my expectation, 135 00:06:03,027 --> 00:06:05,787 Speaker 4: not somebody else's. When you're trying to meet someone else's, 136 00:06:05,947 --> 00:06:09,027 Speaker 4: that's when you have fear of loss, or you start 137 00:06:09,107 --> 00:06:11,987 Speaker 4: changing who you are and you start getting emotional and 138 00:06:12,027 --> 00:06:13,267 Speaker 4: you start losing a little bit. 139 00:06:14,387 --> 00:06:16,067 Speaker 5: And I'm not perfect with that either. 140 00:06:16,187 --> 00:06:19,307 Speaker 4: Like trust me, I think the camera is pretty kind 141 00:06:19,387 --> 00:06:21,187 Speaker 4: to me during the game. There's a few moments there 142 00:06:21,187 --> 00:06:25,867 Speaker 4: were I'm yelling and screaming, but yeah, just on the surface, 143 00:06:25,947 --> 00:06:28,987 Speaker 4: like good examples around one Vegas. At the end of 144 00:06:29,027 --> 00:06:31,787 Speaker 4: the day, I was disappointed because of the occasion, but 145 00:06:31,827 --> 00:06:33,667 Speaker 4: I just looked at it is round one. There's a 146 00:06:33,667 --> 00:06:37,027 Speaker 4: long way to go, a weekend, maybe leagues a long time. 147 00:06:37,027 --> 00:06:40,227 Speaker 4: If we win next game, you know, there's the confidence 148 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:42,947 Speaker 4: that we can build on that. So yeah, I just 149 00:06:43,027 --> 00:06:45,107 Speaker 4: look at it, probably a bit different than most people. 150 00:06:45,147 --> 00:06:47,947 Speaker 3: And it's between your four walls, and that's obviously the 151 00:06:47,987 --> 00:06:49,387 Speaker 3: best way to do it. You know, you're in a 152 00:06:49,467 --> 00:06:53,387 Speaker 3: sinct of the people you trust. Do you stew on defeat? 153 00:06:53,667 --> 00:06:53,867 Speaker 5: Yeah? 154 00:06:54,507 --> 00:06:57,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurts like it hurts deep down, Like when 155 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:00,187 Speaker 4: I say deep down, like it doesn't leave until you 156 00:07:00,187 --> 00:07:03,707 Speaker 4: make it right. Even like some losses in my life 157 00:07:03,707 --> 00:07:05,467 Speaker 4: that I just think, you know, as a player, when 158 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:08,387 Speaker 4: I was playing under seventh Grand Final to now like 159 00:07:08,507 --> 00:07:13,147 Speaker 4: they hurt, they hurt less every day, but they're still there. 160 00:07:13,307 --> 00:07:16,067 Speaker 4: And yeah, everyone wants to win. I hate losing, but 161 00:07:17,027 --> 00:07:18,547 Speaker 4: you've got to get over yourself and you got to 162 00:07:18,547 --> 00:07:20,747 Speaker 4: get over what the occasion. 163 00:07:20,787 --> 00:07:22,347 Speaker 5: But sometimes it doesn't hurt. 164 00:07:22,707 --> 00:07:24,107 Speaker 4: Let it sit with you for a bit so you 165 00:07:24,147 --> 00:07:28,027 Speaker 4: never want to go back there. But yeah, no, I 166 00:07:28,067 --> 00:07:30,267 Speaker 4: struggled just as much as anyone with losing. 167 00:07:30,467 --> 00:07:32,467 Speaker 3: But Mondays must be a hicck of a lot nice 168 00:07:32,507 --> 00:07:34,067 Speaker 3: around the playing group as well. When you get to win. 169 00:07:34,427 --> 00:07:36,707 Speaker 3: I can imagine these boys bounding it on a Monday 170 00:07:36,907 --> 00:07:38,147 Speaker 3: after all winner, is that the case? 171 00:07:38,227 --> 00:07:40,427 Speaker 4: Well, when you play Friday nights, which we have last 172 00:07:40,427 --> 00:07:42,787 Speaker 4: two and you'll win, we do a review on Saturday 173 00:07:42,787 --> 00:07:45,667 Speaker 4: in a recovery session and they bounce in tired, sore, 174 00:07:46,187 --> 00:07:47,987 Speaker 4: but they've got a smile on their face, and then 175 00:07:48,227 --> 00:07:49,867 Speaker 4: they get a day and a half off and bounce 176 00:07:49,907 --> 00:07:53,707 Speaker 4: back in Monday. So I've certainly lost them Friday night 177 00:07:53,827 --> 00:07:56,347 Speaker 4: and the rest of the weekend doesn't feel the same. 178 00:07:56,507 --> 00:07:58,347 Speaker 5: But the boys are in a good mood at the moment. 179 00:07:59,067 --> 00:08:02,227 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three was an exceptional year for you. Twenty 180 00:08:02,267 --> 00:08:03,747 Speaker 3: twenty four not so much. 181 00:08:03,907 --> 00:08:04,107 Speaker 5: Yep. 182 00:08:04,667 --> 00:08:05,907 Speaker 3: What was different last year? 183 00:08:08,187 --> 00:08:10,747 Speaker 4: Well, the results. We obviously we're like we finished thirteenth 184 00:08:10,747 --> 00:08:13,947 Speaker 4: as opposed to fourth. We had a lot of injuries, 185 00:08:13,987 --> 00:08:16,987 Speaker 4: but I still didn't believe even if we had everyone available, 186 00:08:17,027 --> 00:08:18,747 Speaker 4: still didn't think we would have achieved what we wanted 187 00:08:18,787 --> 00:08:21,907 Speaker 4: to achieve. So I certainly think we would have improved. 188 00:08:23,467 --> 00:08:26,587 Speaker 4: But the big thing for me is I assumed a 189 00:08:26,627 --> 00:08:28,787 Speaker 4: couple of things. If I'm being honest, I thought that 190 00:08:28,987 --> 00:08:30,987 Speaker 4: we practice hard, we'll fit. 191 00:08:31,227 --> 00:08:32,307 Speaker 5: We worked at our game. 192 00:08:32,547 --> 00:08:35,747 Speaker 4: There was always a focus, Like I said, getting back 193 00:08:35,747 --> 00:08:39,027 Speaker 4: to expectation. Everyone was talking about the external noise of 194 00:08:39,067 --> 00:08:41,387 Speaker 4: the nation, and everyone thinks we can win the camp. 195 00:08:41,947 --> 00:08:44,507 Speaker 4: It was more our own expectations. We were hungry for it, 196 00:08:44,627 --> 00:08:46,467 Speaker 4: we wanted to want it, and when we didn't reach 197 00:08:46,507 --> 00:08:50,387 Speaker 4: those expectations, you could see that we didn't get over 198 00:08:50,427 --> 00:08:54,627 Speaker 4: it well and everyone started to struggle with that moment, 199 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:56,347 Speaker 4: and therefore we didn't defend our. 200 00:08:56,187 --> 00:08:57,867 Speaker 5: Trial line or we carried that moment on. 201 00:08:58,187 --> 00:09:00,507 Speaker 4: So I think we've done really well so far this 202 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:02,907 Speaker 4: year that when that moment comes, we get over it 203 00:09:02,987 --> 00:09:06,347 Speaker 4: quick and we move on and we still had expectations 204 00:09:06,587 --> 00:09:10,707 Speaker 4: and standards, but we don't have as much anxiety around them. 205 00:09:11,107 --> 00:09:13,787 Speaker 3: You lost some big players eat of this season, Shawn Johnson, 206 00:09:13,787 --> 00:09:17,307 Speaker 3: We mentioned Tall who Harris in particular. Those two guys, 207 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:20,027 Speaker 3: what kind of hole do they leave, not just on 208 00:09:20,067 --> 00:09:21,667 Speaker 3: the field, but around the playing group. 209 00:09:22,507 --> 00:09:25,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think every hole that's left, someone feels it. 210 00:09:25,747 --> 00:09:28,827 Speaker 4: Like it's a cliche, but like you do not lead 211 00:09:29,427 --> 00:09:31,827 Speaker 4: and do not have the space to lead in this 212 00:09:31,947 --> 00:09:35,587 Speaker 4: Dominant figures like Tahu and Sean to Who's greatest strength 213 00:09:36,267 --> 00:09:38,347 Speaker 4: is that he gives space for other people to lead. 214 00:09:38,587 --> 00:09:41,187 Speaker 4: Shawn's greatest strength is he's dominant. He's a halfback, he 215 00:09:41,227 --> 00:09:44,947 Speaker 4: should be. But at same stage Sewan's he's a team guy, 216 00:09:45,027 --> 00:09:48,307 Speaker 4: you know. But they definitely leave a hole, and then 217 00:09:48,347 --> 00:09:49,147 Speaker 4: you see people. 218 00:09:48,947 --> 00:09:49,947 Speaker 5: Step up and want that. 219 00:09:50,667 --> 00:09:53,667 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's I don't know. I look at it 220 00:09:53,707 --> 00:09:56,627 Speaker 4: from an optimistic point of view that whilst we miss 221 00:09:56,667 --> 00:09:59,107 Speaker 4: them and we'd love to have them around, we've got 222 00:09:59,187 --> 00:10:01,587 Speaker 4: guys like Luke Metcalfe've got a guy like Aaron Clark 223 00:10:01,707 --> 00:10:05,107 Speaker 4: who's come come back home and he's got an opportunity 224 00:10:05,147 --> 00:10:08,107 Speaker 4: to step up in that space, and you can just 225 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:09,587 Speaker 4: see if he's playing grate footy. 226 00:10:09,747 --> 00:10:12,387 Speaker 3: Do Ta Who and Sean and others who have left 227 00:10:12,427 --> 00:10:15,387 Speaker 3: the playing groups still have a contribution to make. 228 00:10:16,187 --> 00:10:18,067 Speaker 4: I think they will for the rest of their lives 229 00:10:18,107 --> 00:10:19,947 Speaker 4: if they want to, and I think they will if 230 00:10:19,987 --> 00:10:25,787 Speaker 4: we allow them to. Simon Mannering's always welcome. Dean bellis 231 00:10:25,827 --> 00:10:29,467 Speaker 4: the first Captain's welcome. So I definitely think toy and 232 00:10:29,507 --> 00:10:30,667 Speaker 4: Sean been recent. 233 00:10:30,467 --> 00:10:32,067 Speaker 5: Retired and being such good players. 234 00:10:32,787 --> 00:10:34,667 Speaker 4: I mean we had toy Who around the week leading 235 00:10:34,747 --> 00:10:39,027 Speaker 4: up Tears kind of his fellwell, which we had in 236 00:10:39,027 --> 00:10:41,827 Speaker 4: the mainly game, and Sewan's been at training a few times, 237 00:10:41,867 --> 00:10:44,467 Speaker 4: so yeah, and Sean's going to do some work with 238 00:10:44,507 --> 00:10:45,267 Speaker 4: our younger players. 239 00:10:45,267 --> 00:10:48,067 Speaker 5: So like they definitely have a big, big part to play. 240 00:10:48,187 --> 00:10:52,067 Speaker 4: It's it's just making sure they feel welcome, which they are, 241 00:10:52,267 --> 00:10:56,267 Speaker 4: and just making sure hopefully when they're eighty they're still 242 00:10:56,307 --> 00:10:57,387 Speaker 4: having that in some form. 243 00:10:58,387 --> 00:11:02,427 Speaker 3: I'm sure James, I'll be dead by having a contribution, 244 00:11:02,787 --> 00:11:06,667 Speaker 3: and I'm sure you'll still be around, James Busha Harris, yep. 245 00:11:06,907 --> 00:11:08,467 Speaker 3: Can you talk to us a bit about his influence 246 00:11:08,467 --> 00:11:10,267 Speaker 3: on the side, what you've seen from him since his arrival. 247 00:11:10,867 --> 00:11:13,707 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think our standards improved from him just walking 248 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:14,267 Speaker 4: through the door. 249 00:11:14,587 --> 00:11:15,387 Speaker 5: I just think. 250 00:11:16,667 --> 00:11:19,547 Speaker 4: For even said a word. I think players saw the 251 00:11:19,547 --> 00:11:22,027 Speaker 4: way he played the hurd, his reputation, some of our 252 00:11:22,027 --> 00:11:25,827 Speaker 4: boys playing Kiwi's with him and Maldi's, and they knew, okay, 253 00:11:25,867 --> 00:11:28,667 Speaker 4: these are the standards, and they didn't want to let 254 00:11:28,747 --> 00:11:31,147 Speaker 4: him down or they wanted to be part of that. 255 00:11:31,387 --> 00:11:34,667 Speaker 4: So I think our intensity of training improved straight away, 256 00:11:35,227 --> 00:11:39,107 Speaker 4: and I think Fish definitely drove that by his obviously 257 00:11:39,187 --> 00:11:41,547 Speaker 4: his actions. We've got a guy on Mitch Barnett who's 258 00:11:41,747 --> 00:11:45,107 Speaker 4: also very good at that. Already he's exceptional and hence 259 00:11:45,107 --> 00:11:46,187 Speaker 4: why they're co captains. 260 00:11:46,707 --> 00:11:47,667 Speaker 5: But then when. 261 00:11:49,227 --> 00:11:52,067 Speaker 4: Mitch has an ally in Fish and both are both 262 00:11:52,067 --> 00:11:55,787 Speaker 4: are training like that, then everyone's everyone's got. 263 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:56,547 Speaker 5: To lift their standards. 264 00:11:56,787 --> 00:11:59,107 Speaker 3: Because it was talk when James Fisher Haerris came in 265 00:11:59,147 --> 00:12:01,267 Speaker 3: that he might be given the captaincy. You might choose 266 00:12:01,307 --> 00:12:02,707 Speaker 3: him as your as your captain. 267 00:12:02,907 --> 00:12:03,107 Speaker 5: Yep. 268 00:12:03,267 --> 00:12:06,067 Speaker 3: Was there a reluctance to do that because it might 269 00:12:06,067 --> 00:12:08,307 Speaker 3: have just added more to his plate yep? 270 00:12:08,747 --> 00:12:11,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, and James notics. We've had good conversations. I had 271 00:12:11,987 --> 00:12:16,387 Speaker 4: no plans on making him captain, just from he wanted 272 00:12:16,427 --> 00:12:18,947 Speaker 4: to come here and I prove I didn't want him 273 00:12:19,027 --> 00:12:22,707 Speaker 4: to feel like he was our savior. We're going to 274 00:12:22,747 --> 00:12:27,987 Speaker 4: put added pressure on his back. But then also I 275 00:12:28,067 --> 00:12:31,147 Speaker 4: was also aware of last year how good Mitch's leadership 276 00:12:31,427 --> 00:12:34,747 Speaker 4: skills were, and what when Tau got injured, how he lifted, 277 00:12:36,027 --> 00:12:38,347 Speaker 4: and what he created for the team. And then when 278 00:12:38,347 --> 00:12:41,387 Speaker 4: I saw Fish arrive and I saw Mitch doing what 279 00:12:41,427 --> 00:12:44,107 Speaker 4: he's doing, and they were doing stuff together, And also 280 00:12:44,147 --> 00:12:46,747 Speaker 4: a bit of Yin and yang, which is very loud 281 00:12:46,747 --> 00:12:50,947 Speaker 4: and emotional. James is very quiet, but when he talks, 282 00:12:50,987 --> 00:12:53,987 Speaker 4: everyone stops. So I just thought he's a perfect. 283 00:12:53,667 --> 00:12:54,627 Speaker 5: Example of ying and yang. 284 00:12:54,667 --> 00:12:58,867 Speaker 4: But like my marriage, and I thought it'd be perfect 285 00:12:58,867 --> 00:13:00,947 Speaker 4: for them and for the team and for the nation. 286 00:13:01,147 --> 00:13:03,507 Speaker 4: So they just made a great fit. And then I 287 00:13:03,507 --> 00:13:04,147 Speaker 4: spoke to James. 288 00:13:04,307 --> 00:13:05,387 Speaker 5: Look, I wasn't going to do this. 289 00:13:05,427 --> 00:13:07,667 Speaker 4: I didn't think it would work, but I think it 290 00:13:07,707 --> 00:13:08,747 Speaker 4: would be perfect for us. 291 00:13:08,827 --> 00:13:09,387 Speaker 5: Do you want it? 292 00:13:09,467 --> 00:13:13,067 Speaker 4: And he wanted it, and I've really spoken to Mitch 293 00:13:13,147 --> 00:13:15,547 Speaker 4: and they both wanted to do it together. 294 00:13:15,747 --> 00:13:18,627 Speaker 3: Ivan Cleary a guy you worked with at Penrith. You 295 00:13:18,747 --> 00:13:21,307 Speaker 3: know him well, no doubt, you still have a little 296 00:13:21,307 --> 00:13:23,107 Speaker 3: bit to do with him. How much of an influence. 297 00:13:23,587 --> 00:13:26,987 Speaker 3: Has Ivan Cleary been on you a huge Yeah? 298 00:13:27,067 --> 00:13:31,307 Speaker 4: I mean I haven't. Obviously, I've learned a lot of 299 00:13:31,307 --> 00:13:33,947 Speaker 4: stuff about rugby league. I've obviously learned a lot of 300 00:13:34,067 --> 00:13:37,907 Speaker 4: things how you carry yourself. The biggest thing from my 301 00:13:38,067 --> 00:13:39,907 Speaker 4: Ivan is I've never seen a guy have such a 302 00:13:39,907 --> 00:13:44,267 Speaker 4: good balance between working hard and family. And I think 303 00:13:44,307 --> 00:13:48,467 Speaker 4: his family values then transfer into his work values. So 304 00:13:49,187 --> 00:13:51,467 Speaker 4: he treats his players like that, he's family his staff. 305 00:13:52,587 --> 00:13:55,027 Speaker 4: It's big on connection and everyone being close together and 306 00:13:55,707 --> 00:13:58,467 Speaker 4: wanting to come to work every day just creates a 307 00:13:58,467 --> 00:14:02,307 Speaker 4: great environment. I learned a lot about that, and I 308 00:14:02,307 --> 00:14:04,347 Speaker 4: fell out they're close to my values as well, which 309 00:14:04,427 --> 00:14:07,827 Speaker 4: is cool. The big thing I haven'ts taught me is 310 00:14:07,907 --> 00:14:09,827 Speaker 4: you can't copy and paste. You've always got to be 311 00:14:09,947 --> 00:14:13,627 Speaker 4: your authentic self. So not necessarily everything he does is 312 00:14:13,667 --> 00:14:15,147 Speaker 4: going to work for me or for the next coach. 313 00:14:15,387 --> 00:14:17,627 Speaker 4: But a bloody learn a lot from him, you know, 314 00:14:17,787 --> 00:14:19,507 Speaker 4: so I've got to copy if you. 315 00:14:19,547 --> 00:14:24,227 Speaker 3: Think, yeah, oh look, absolutely imitations the sincerest form of flattery, 316 00:14:24,267 --> 00:14:26,627 Speaker 3: they say, And why wouldn't you when he's been so successful. 317 00:14:26,667 --> 00:14:30,587 Speaker 3: You talked about him, you know, mixing balancing family with 318 00:14:30,627 --> 00:14:33,827 Speaker 3: his work. But one of his family's at work, you know, 319 00:14:34,067 --> 00:14:37,627 Speaker 3: so what if you observed from him? Because I don't 320 00:14:37,627 --> 00:14:39,547 Speaker 3: know this to be true, but if I was coaching 321 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,347 Speaker 3: my son, I don't know how I would do that. Well, 322 00:14:42,387 --> 00:14:43,387 Speaker 3: how does he do it? 323 00:14:44,067 --> 00:14:44,467 Speaker 5: I think the. 324 00:14:44,947 --> 00:14:47,987 Speaker 4: Luckiest thing I haven't's got his son. Well, when I 325 00:14:47,987 --> 00:14:50,147 Speaker 4: say lucky, I mean in the day, I mean who 326 00:14:50,147 --> 00:14:55,427 Speaker 4: would It's just how it's happened. But Nathan's a great playmaker, 327 00:14:55,907 --> 00:14:58,947 Speaker 4: and you got the coach. So when the playmaker and 328 00:14:58,987 --> 00:15:02,027 Speaker 4: the coach discuss tactics, you know that you've got complete 329 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:05,507 Speaker 4: buying and faith in the plane. And I haven't sitting 330 00:15:05,587 --> 00:15:08,547 Speaker 4: there in the coaches box looking down and saying I'm 331 00:15:08,627 --> 00:15:12,227 Speaker 4: really comfort my son can do this and then and 332 00:15:12,347 --> 00:15:16,347 Speaker 4: I just feel like when Ivan talks, Nathan drives those 333 00:15:16,347 --> 00:15:20,027 Speaker 4: messages really well. Therefore everyone's got buying, everyone's going in 334 00:15:20,027 --> 00:15:23,347 Speaker 4: the same direction. So I think that's a real advantage 335 00:15:23,347 --> 00:15:26,467 Speaker 4: on it. I don't think Nathan's position in the teams 336 00:15:26,507 --> 00:15:29,827 Speaker 4: have doubted, is he l When you coach your son 337 00:15:29,867 --> 00:15:32,067 Speaker 4: and you're not sure and you're like, I need to 338 00:15:32,107 --> 00:15:32,707 Speaker 4: be harder on it. 339 00:15:32,747 --> 00:15:34,027 Speaker 5: Because everyone thinks I'm soft. 340 00:15:34,747 --> 00:15:36,427 Speaker 4: I don't think I even has to do that does he 341 00:15:36,547 --> 00:15:39,547 Speaker 4: So he's really clear that he can just they can 342 00:15:39,587 --> 00:15:42,227 Speaker 4: have a great relationship still a father son relationship in 343 00:15:42,227 --> 00:15:46,507 Speaker 4: my opinion, Like you can definitely still see it. But yeah, 344 00:15:46,507 --> 00:15:49,707 Speaker 4: they they're both very introverted, so it's not like they're 345 00:15:49,747 --> 00:15:51,467 Speaker 4: on top of each other every day at work either, 346 00:15:52,547 --> 00:15:55,667 Speaker 4: but they they have an awesome relationship and I think 347 00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:57,507 Speaker 4: it's a lot of trust. From a forty point of 348 00:15:57,547 --> 00:15:58,947 Speaker 4: view and a personal point of view. 349 00:15:59,347 --> 00:16:05,347 Speaker 3: You're managing a wide variety of personalities among the young 350 00:16:05,387 --> 00:16:11,467 Speaker 3: men in your chart. What is your basic man management philosophy? 351 00:16:12,947 --> 00:16:16,187 Speaker 4: Well, people's my thing, you know, That's why I want 352 00:16:16,227 --> 00:16:18,467 Speaker 4: to do the job, Like I enjoyed people. If I 353 00:16:19,787 --> 00:16:22,747 Speaker 4: if I had to cut vision, come up with tactics 354 00:16:22,787 --> 00:16:24,387 Speaker 4: and then pass it to somebody and then they go 355 00:16:24,467 --> 00:16:26,347 Speaker 4: deliver it and I don't even talk to that person, 356 00:16:26,587 --> 00:16:30,827 Speaker 4: I wouldn't enjoy it, just because that's the most exciting 357 00:16:30,827 --> 00:16:34,507 Speaker 4: part having an impact on someone's life and and you know, 358 00:16:34,547 --> 00:16:36,427 Speaker 4: helping people grow and as a. 359 00:16:36,347 --> 00:16:38,347 Speaker 5: Result everyone does. 360 00:16:39,827 --> 00:16:43,307 Speaker 4: Yeah, my man management style is work with people, not 361 00:16:43,547 --> 00:16:49,027 Speaker 4: on top of them or against them. I'll rarely give 362 00:16:49,067 --> 00:16:52,547 Speaker 4: a spray, but I'm firm, so when I raise my 363 00:16:52,627 --> 00:16:53,627 Speaker 4: voice from I make a point. 364 00:16:53,907 --> 00:16:58,587 Speaker 5: I feel like it's clear. Clarity is my whole thing. Sorry, 365 00:16:58,627 --> 00:16:59,387 Speaker 5: my voice is gone. 366 00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:02,707 Speaker 4: But if you're clear and what your roles and expectations are, 367 00:17:02,747 --> 00:17:04,427 Speaker 4: and you feel like you have to say in something, 368 00:17:04,467 --> 00:17:07,507 Speaker 4: and you feel empowered and you feel belong love, then 369 00:17:07,747 --> 00:17:08,587 Speaker 4: you're going to excel. 370 00:17:08,867 --> 00:17:09,227 Speaker 5: Yeah. 371 00:17:09,267 --> 00:17:15,987 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Are there philosophies that work across everybody? Or is 372 00:17:16,067 --> 00:17:18,867 Speaker 3: everyone really different from one another? 373 00:17:19,067 --> 00:17:21,347 Speaker 4: I think if you treat people well and develop people 374 00:17:21,347 --> 00:17:24,707 Speaker 4: that are work in any environment doesn't mean you can't 375 00:17:24,747 --> 00:17:31,187 Speaker 4: be really brutally honest as well. But I think also too, 376 00:17:32,267 --> 00:17:35,227 Speaker 4: a toxic environment will only work for so long. Like 377 00:17:35,347 --> 00:17:41,107 Speaker 4: I've seen harsh, aggressive environments where they have short term 378 00:17:41,507 --> 00:17:45,627 Speaker 4: goal gains, but long term they always fail. They fall 379 00:17:45,667 --> 00:17:49,427 Speaker 4: apart very quickly, but you can see a real spiking. 380 00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:52,547 Speaker 4: People are on their toes, people are worried. I better 381 00:17:52,547 --> 00:17:54,307 Speaker 4: be good at this otherwise this is going to happen. 382 00:17:54,707 --> 00:17:55,787 Speaker 5: But you can't sustain The. 383 00:17:56,947 --> 00:17:59,667 Speaker 3: Cam Georgian here last year and I asked them this question. 384 00:17:59,707 --> 00:18:01,907 Speaker 3: I ask you was well. I asked him whether he 385 00:18:02,027 --> 00:18:06,987 Speaker 3: thought a sporting franchise or any organization could survive dickhead. 386 00:18:07,507 --> 00:18:08,147 Speaker 3: He said no. 387 00:18:08,667 --> 00:18:14,227 Speaker 4: Do you agree I think no dickad policy will always 388 00:18:14,227 --> 00:18:17,347 Speaker 4: give you a best chance of success, that's for sure. 389 00:18:18,067 --> 00:18:20,827 Speaker 4: I think the thing is sometimes if there's a guy 390 00:18:20,827 --> 00:18:22,387 Speaker 4: who's a bit rough around the edges, and you got 391 00:18:22,387 --> 00:18:26,227 Speaker 4: an amazing culture and establish one, then they could help 392 00:18:26,267 --> 00:18:30,507 Speaker 4: grow that person and do even better person. But if 393 00:18:30,507 --> 00:18:33,147 Speaker 4: they're fundamentally deep down a dickhead and always going to 394 00:18:33,187 --> 00:18:36,707 Speaker 4: be one, then they don't there shouldn't be in your organization, 395 00:18:36,827 --> 00:18:38,307 Speaker 4: or if they are, they shouldn't be there for long. 396 00:18:39,227 --> 00:18:42,267 Speaker 3: Players always talk about having a why. I'm sure coaches 397 00:18:42,267 --> 00:18:43,947 Speaker 3: do as well. You alluded to it before. I think 398 00:18:43,947 --> 00:18:46,667 Speaker 3: it's based around the people that you work with, the 399 00:18:46,707 --> 00:18:49,187 Speaker 3: men that you work alongside, those so you influence on 400 00:18:49,227 --> 00:18:53,507 Speaker 3: a day to day basis. Is that your why? Or 401 00:18:53,627 --> 00:18:55,467 Speaker 3: is it greater than that? Why do you do this? 402 00:18:56,547 --> 00:18:58,867 Speaker 4: Well? I've got different ways now. I think your why 403 00:18:58,987 --> 00:19:03,507 Speaker 4: changes as you go. My why has not been I 404 00:19:03,547 --> 00:19:06,267 Speaker 4: want to be a head coach for any other reason, 405 00:19:06,347 --> 00:19:08,987 Speaker 4: And then I just feel like you want that feeling 406 00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:11,387 Speaker 4: of I think I'd be good at it. I feel 407 00:19:11,387 --> 00:19:15,347 Speaker 4: like if you enjoy your job and your rewards, then 408 00:19:15,347 --> 00:19:18,507 Speaker 4: you get that self satisfaction. I'm not in it for 409 00:19:18,667 --> 00:19:19,507 Speaker 4: the pats on the back. 410 00:19:19,507 --> 00:19:21,987 Speaker 5: If I'm being honest from everyone. 411 00:19:21,627 --> 00:19:24,587 Speaker 4: Else's it's just like I would love to create an 412 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:27,547 Speaker 4: environment where everyone loves coming to work and they can 413 00:19:27,627 --> 00:19:30,627 Speaker 4: be their best and succeed. And that is so self satisfy. 414 00:19:30,667 --> 00:19:32,387 Speaker 4: That is so satisfying to be a part of that 415 00:19:32,787 --> 00:19:33,907 Speaker 4: see other people. 416 00:19:33,627 --> 00:19:36,027 Speaker 5: Grow, And that's just my thing. That's my wife. 417 00:19:37,267 --> 00:19:40,027 Speaker 4: I love the game, like I generally love footy. I'd 418 00:19:40,067 --> 00:19:43,907 Speaker 4: be doing it for nothing, you know, in the old days. 419 00:19:43,907 --> 00:19:46,547 Speaker 4: I'm sure they all coach, you know, for no money, 420 00:19:46,787 --> 00:19:49,307 Speaker 4: But I'd be one of those guys, like I generally 421 00:19:49,347 --> 00:19:52,467 Speaker 4: love rugby league and I love people. 422 00:19:52,587 --> 00:19:57,227 Speaker 5: But yeah, for my family as well, like for my. 423 00:19:57,267 --> 00:19:59,027 Speaker 4: Mum and dad, my brother and sister and my wife, 424 00:19:59,107 --> 00:20:01,467 Speaker 4: my little boy, Like I'd like to making them proud 425 00:20:01,547 --> 00:20:03,987 Speaker 4: and one day they can see mom and dad always 426 00:20:04,147 --> 00:20:06,067 Speaker 4: Mum and dad always to say, if you find something 427 00:20:06,107 --> 00:20:08,747 Speaker 4: that you you're passionate about, you chase it and if 428 00:20:08,787 --> 00:20:11,307 Speaker 4: that becomes your job, you're pretty lucky. And I don't 429 00:20:11,347 --> 00:20:13,347 Speaker 4: know if enough people have that in their life. So 430 00:20:14,067 --> 00:20:16,027 Speaker 4: if I can teach my son that that, that'd. 431 00:20:15,867 --> 00:20:16,427 Speaker 5: Be pretty cool. 432 00:20:17,507 --> 00:20:20,467 Speaker 3: How do you how do you switch off? 433 00:20:22,747 --> 00:20:23,347 Speaker 5: Quite easy? 434 00:20:23,547 --> 00:20:26,907 Speaker 4: Got almost a two year old little boy walk in 435 00:20:26,907 --> 00:20:30,427 Speaker 4: the door. He's smiling at me or he's blowing up 436 00:20:30,467 --> 00:20:32,387 Speaker 4: at me. You got to do this, dad, come on more. 437 00:20:34,387 --> 00:20:34,627 Speaker 5: Yeah. 438 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:38,507 Speaker 4: And my wife like well, and my friends like I'm 439 00:20:38,507 --> 00:20:41,667 Speaker 4: a very social person, you know. We love going in 440 00:20:41,747 --> 00:20:44,707 Speaker 4: for lunched in those type of things. It's hard to 441 00:20:44,747 --> 00:20:47,107 Speaker 4: get a babysit, but we've got some great ones here 442 00:20:47,107 --> 00:20:49,587 Speaker 4: in Auckland that look after Max every time the time. 443 00:20:49,627 --> 00:20:51,747 Speaker 4: But just spending time with family friends. 444 00:20:53,027 --> 00:20:54,107 Speaker 5: The big one for me. 445 00:20:54,027 --> 00:20:56,227 Speaker 4: Has got the hobbies. I'd love to play golf more. 446 00:20:56,267 --> 00:20:58,307 Speaker 4: I don't do that enough, so I shouldn't even say 447 00:20:58,347 --> 00:20:59,787 Speaker 4: that anymore because I don't play. 448 00:21:00,387 --> 00:21:01,107 Speaker 5: It's like I'm. 449 00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:04,427 Speaker 4: Lying to all the all the all the listeners. 450 00:21:06,627 --> 00:21:06,867 Speaker 3: A year. 451 00:21:07,027 --> 00:21:08,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, how often do you play with it? Are twice 452 00:21:08,907 --> 00:21:09,827 Speaker 4: in two and a half years. 453 00:21:10,027 --> 00:21:12,587 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so very good. Yeah. 454 00:21:12,667 --> 00:21:14,827 Speaker 4: And I love horse racing, yeah, not so much the 455 00:21:14,867 --> 00:21:15,587 Speaker 4: game inside of it. 456 00:21:15,627 --> 00:21:16,067 Speaker 5: I love the. 457 00:21:17,907 --> 00:21:20,987 Speaker 4: Tactical side, the breeding side of it. Yeah, that's really 458 00:21:21,067 --> 00:21:22,307 Speaker 4: that's a great distraction for me. 459 00:21:22,667 --> 00:21:25,427 Speaker 3: All right, let's end back at the start where we 460 00:21:25,467 --> 00:21:28,467 Speaker 3: are now with a season stretching ahead of us. Yep, 461 00:21:28,547 --> 00:21:30,227 Speaker 3: I feel confident about twenty twenty five. 462 00:21:30,387 --> 00:21:31,027 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. 463 00:21:31,267 --> 00:21:35,827 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing I've learned about creating our 464 00:21:35,867 --> 00:21:40,827 Speaker 4: own expectation on ourselves is yeah, it's boring, but done 465 00:21:40,827 --> 00:21:42,627 Speaker 4: look too far ahead. The reason why I talk about 466 00:21:42,627 --> 00:21:45,907 Speaker 4: that right now is we've been in this situation last year. 467 00:21:45,947 --> 00:21:48,027 Speaker 4: I think we lost the first round of the year, 468 00:21:48,787 --> 00:21:51,307 Speaker 4: we even lost the second, and then we went on sorry, 469 00:21:51,307 --> 00:21:52,827 Speaker 4: we won the second, and then we went on a 470 00:21:52,907 --> 00:21:53,667 Speaker 4: run and we won. 471 00:21:53,507 --> 00:21:55,147 Speaker 5: Like three or three or four in a row. 472 00:21:54,987 --> 00:21:58,147 Speaker 4: And now this is our years. It's just so such 473 00:21:58,307 --> 00:22:02,587 Speaker 4: a marathon, you know. But we've been confident and confident 474 00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:05,347 Speaker 4: last year. We've been confidence since day one. But there's 475 00:22:05,347 --> 00:22:08,667 Speaker 4: certainly no confidence there and we're not taking anything for granted, 476 00:22:08,707 --> 00:22:11,107 Speaker 4: we've got so much work to do, but we'red a 477 00:22:11,107 --> 00:22:13,147 Speaker 4: group of players that they're all buying. You know, they 478 00:22:13,187 --> 00:22:16,267 Speaker 4: all care about this country, they care about the results. 479 00:22:16,547 --> 00:22:18,707 Speaker 5: You know, they want to play for the Warriors. They 480 00:22:18,707 --> 00:22:19,307 Speaker 5: do their best. 481 00:22:19,307 --> 00:22:22,467 Speaker 4: So yeah, if we can carry that on all year 482 00:22:22,507 --> 00:22:24,787 Speaker 4: and make sure we keep putting our energy in the 483 00:22:24,867 --> 00:22:27,187 Speaker 4: right stuff, then then we should have a good season. 484 00:22:27,627 --> 00:22:30,427 Speaker 3: Last question is around the connection to your fans. Yep, 485 00:22:31,387 --> 00:22:33,907 Speaker 3: how important is that and how important are your fans 486 00:22:33,907 --> 00:22:34,147 Speaker 3: to you. 487 00:22:34,987 --> 00:22:37,067 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, getting back to the why a bit, like, 488 00:22:37,267 --> 00:22:40,907 Speaker 4: I'm an Australian. I came back to this club after 489 00:22:41,227 --> 00:22:43,227 Speaker 4: working here for two years ago, eight years ago, so 490 00:22:43,267 --> 00:22:46,587 Speaker 4: I had a connection here Ben, and I didn't want 491 00:22:46,627 --> 00:22:48,147 Speaker 4: to be a head coach at any club. I wanted 492 00:22:48,147 --> 00:22:51,307 Speaker 4: to be where I felt like I would fit and 493 00:22:51,387 --> 00:22:53,307 Speaker 4: for some reason, I feel like I fit here and 494 00:22:53,427 --> 00:22:55,467 Speaker 4: I hope that everyone feels the same. 495 00:22:56,867 --> 00:22:57,907 Speaker 5: So then coming. 496 00:22:57,707 --> 00:23:00,067 Speaker 4: Back then my wife was about, you know, I just 497 00:23:00,107 --> 00:23:02,307 Speaker 4: want to improve people and everyone to be happy, to 498 00:23:02,307 --> 00:23:04,587 Speaker 4: create a great environment that people can be the best. 499 00:23:04,587 --> 00:23:07,507 Speaker 4: And then for I know it, like I want the 500 00:23:07,547 --> 00:23:11,867 Speaker 4: fans to taste that success, but more like grand finals. 501 00:23:11,867 --> 00:23:13,987 Speaker 4: That's our goal, Like I can promise everyone that, but 502 00:23:14,627 --> 00:23:19,107 Speaker 4: the real goal is sustained success on the fans being 503 00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:21,747 Speaker 4: proud of the way the boys play even when we're 504 00:23:21,747 --> 00:23:24,907 Speaker 4: not at our best, like and that's I feel like 505 00:23:25,027 --> 00:23:26,547 Speaker 4: last year we came thirteenth. 506 00:23:26,267 --> 00:23:27,587 Speaker 5: But we sold it out every week. 507 00:23:28,067 --> 00:23:30,507 Speaker 4: There were still they still saw effort, they still saw care. 508 00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:32,067 Speaker 4: They're still a sort of team that they wanted to 509 00:23:32,067 --> 00:23:35,267 Speaker 4: come and support. So yeah, they're part of my wide, 510 00:23:35,307 --> 00:23:38,027 Speaker 4: the fans, and you know, we're taking a game to 511 00:23:38,107 --> 00:23:41,507 Speaker 4: christ Church. In a couple of weeks we go to Australia, 512 00:23:41,547 --> 00:23:44,387 Speaker 4: were so well supported, Like we go I'm not going 513 00:23:44,427 --> 00:23:46,707 Speaker 4: to mention the teams. We go to away games and 514 00:23:46,747 --> 00:23:49,747 Speaker 4: we've got more fans in them sometimes like that's We're 515 00:23:49,867 --> 00:23:51,347 Speaker 4: very proud of that as a club and I'm very 516 00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:53,507 Speaker 4: proud to be a part of it. So they're huge 517 00:23:53,547 --> 00:23:53,747 Speaker 4: for us. 518 00:23:53,827 --> 00:23:56,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Andrew, thanks for stopping and great to see 519 00:23:56,947 --> 00:23:59,227 Speaker 3: you know you're a busy man. All the best on 520 00:23:59,267 --> 00:24:01,307 Speaker 3: behalf of our audience for the rest of twenty twenty five. 521 00:24:01,347 --> 00:24:03,307 Speaker 3: Hope we can catch up again soon. 522 00:24:03,427 --> 00:24:04,907 Speaker 4: No, thank you so much for having me and thanks 523 00:24:04,907 --> 00:24:05,267 Speaker 4: for everyone. 524 00:24:05,747 --> 00:24:08,147 Speaker 3: No, thanks so for joining us. We'll be Andrew Webster, 525 00:24:08,187 --> 00:24:10,147 Speaker 3: the head coach of the Warriors. Great to get the 526 00:24:10,227 --> 00:24:12,987 Speaker 3: chance to spend an extended period of time with him. 527 00:24:13,787 --> 00:24:16,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 528 00:24:17,067 --> 00:24:20,347 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B weekends from midday or follow 529 00:24:20,387 --> 00:24:21,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.