1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The world has been mourning the death of Pope Francis, 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: who died overnight at the age of eighty eight. He 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: was the first Latin American leader of the Roman Catholic Church. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: And it comes as a shock as just the day before, 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: on Easter Sunday, the Pope had greeted a crowd of 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: tens of thousands at the East Sunday Mass and the 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Vatican Right. Rome correspondent Joe mckinnaitt has the latest for us. 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: She joins us, Now, are you there, Joe, We'll just. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: Get rid of here, yes, se can you me okay. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I can. Where are you There's a lot of 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: bustle around you. Are you out and amongst the people? 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: Yes, good morning, Francesca. I'm at the Vatican right now, 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: and thousands of people are pouring into Saint Peter's Square 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: as we speak for a special rosary in memory of 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: Pope Francis. People are shocked and shaken, as you can imagine, 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: just a day after seeing him in this same square 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: greet the faithful and blessing everyone for Easter Sunday. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: It has been a shock. Even though we know he 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: hasn't been well, his health seemed to be improving. 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: Yes, after thirty eight days in hospital and some very 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: dangerous moments there where the doctor said they almost lost him. 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: There were hopes that he would recover, but as we 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: probably as you probably saw, you know, he was looking 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: very weak and frail, and his voice was struggling. I 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: think we still saw that he was struggling to get 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: over that double pneumonia. And in a short time tonight 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: we're about to learn what the cause of death was. 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: There was speculation that he died of a stroke overnight, 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: but some other speculations suggesting that it might have been 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: a pulmonary embolism. So just waiting for some results from 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: the Vatican on that tonight. 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay, how much of an impact did Pope Francis have, 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: not just on the Catholic Church, but the whole world. Joe, look, 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: I think go back. 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: To that first night Francesco I was here in the 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: square when he was elected twenty thirteen, and he set 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: the tone immediately with his informality, his friendliness. And then 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: soon after that his first official visit, which many people 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: may not remember, was to the island of Lamp Producer 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: off the coast of Sicily, where he wanted to reach 41 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: out to all those migrants who were struggling to make 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: the voyage across the Mediterranean, so really about informality reaching 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: out to the poor and the underprivileged. He took a 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: strong stand on climate change and saving the planet, and 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: was really against the trappings of capitalism, status and all 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: those things that we all get caught up in consumerism 47 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: And we can see that, can't we, Just in the 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: way that he's decided to have his public viewing at 50 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: the Basilica. You know, he doesn't want he wants to 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: be in the cough and he doesn't want to be 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: on a raised podium. He wants to keep it simple. 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a very good message. And he 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be buried at the Vatican like many 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: other popes. He has chosen his burial place in a 56 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: basilica on the other side of Rome called Saint Mary Major, 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: where he would often go and say a prayer to 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: the Madonna before he went traveling on his overseas trips, 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: many many overseas trips to faraway places from including Iraq, 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: the Philippines, Papua New Guinea and again emphasizing that outreach 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: that he felt so strongly about. 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Joe. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: What happens now, So tonight there will be a ritual 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: inside his apartment inside the Vatican, the Coza Marta apartment 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: where he lived. They will, I think, smash the ring 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: and seal his room, and then his body will be 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: moved into a coffin and moved into the Basilica, probably 68 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, and he will lie in state fare and 69 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people are expected to come into Rome. 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: I think we'll see the sort of reaction that we 71 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: saw with Pope John Paul's funeral way back in two 72 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: thousand and five. People will come from all over the 73 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: world for this viewing. Then the funeral is likely to 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: be held Friday or Sunday next weekend. Then there'll be 75 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: a break, There'll be days of several days of morning, 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: and then the conclave will begin inside the Systeine Chapel 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: to elect the new Pope. 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Joe mckinna, thank you so much for your time. Really 79 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: appreciate this morning. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, 80 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: listen live to News Talks it be from five am weekdays, 81 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.