1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Oliver Peterson six PR Perth Live Presenters with us Ali Hey, Heather, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: I can not at all a surprise that Albanez has 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: taken this position. 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Right, It's not a surprise, and he said he had 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: a very short and sharp conversation with Benjamin Etnia who 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: in the last. 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 3: Couple of days. 8 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: But Australia will recognize the right of the Palestinian people 9 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: to a state of their own, which is predicated on 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: the commitments Australias received from the Palestine authority. Prime Minister 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: arguing that this is the best chance for peace in 12 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Gaza and he will take this to the United Nations 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: General Assembly in New York next month when that official 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: recognition will be made. He's made it very clear there 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: is to be no role of Hamas in any Palestinian 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: state moving forward. But a big change I suppose in 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: what Australia is acknowledging a Palestinian state and policy direction 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: from the governments. Prime Minister though, was saying again that 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: this is the best chance for peace and that he 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: will be taking this forward. 21 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Is he going to get broad support for this or not? 22 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 3: Look, I think he will gets I don't know. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: That's a very very good question that you ask, Heather, 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: because he will get broad support within his own rank 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: and file. Yes, the opposition is already saying you cannot 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: do this, and I think Australians are on the fence 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: with this at the moment. I do believe that a 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: lot of Australians are very concerned about what he's continuing 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: to go on in Gaza at the moment. But I 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: think it's a little bit I hate to say this, 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: out of side, out of mind for a lot of 32 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: Australians at the moment, and it's been going on for 33 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: so long that it just it almost unfortunately get swept 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: under the carpet, which it shouldn't be done. But this 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: is a bold statement obviously the Prime Minister, and as 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: I said, he's been under an internal pressure even going 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: back to the days of the former Foreign Minister Bob Carr. 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: He put this forward back in twenty. 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: Fourteen at the Labor National Conference and he's been advocating 40 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: at every opportunity that this would happen. So I think 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: it'll be very interesting and when I jump on with 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: my show a little later today here on six, power'll 43 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: be very interesting to hear what the took back in 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: the feedback's. 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Like, did we get much deeper tell on what that 46 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: phone call with BB was like. 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: No, he wouldn't go into much detail at all, other 48 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: than he's had the call. He's let him know what 49 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: he thinks and why this is going to happen. 50 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: He said that. 51 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Countries like Australia that as you've heard now Benjamin Etna, 52 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: who's come out and criticized Anthony Albanese before that, saying 53 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: to have European countries and Australia march into that rabbit 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: hole just like that. 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: He's disappointing and it's actually shameful. 56 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: So Penny Wog our Foreign Minister, she's also been on 57 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: the phone to Marco Rubio of the Trump administration to 58 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: let him know. And obviously, as we know, we are 59 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: in a very interesting situation politically with the Trump administration 60 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: over the Orchest Deal. Whether this declaration by the Australian 61 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: governments in any way jeopardizes any of that or did 62 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: it have any conversations with the Trump administration before Anthony 63 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: Albanese he made that call this morning. 64 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I am shocked that your evs don't pay road 65 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: user charges. 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, see we're copying you we're copying what you're doing 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: in New z So we're going to look at that. 68 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: We've got that big roundtable, this whole Productivity Commission roundtable 69 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: thing that a Jim Chalmers is trying to get everybody 70 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: talking about what we can do to make the country 71 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: more productive. 72 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: He wants to scrap the fuel excise. 73 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: And put on that road user charge, which I know 74 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: you announced in New Zealand just last week. I assume 75 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: we're probably going to be basically copying what you are doing, 76 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: because that's what we do. New Zealand does something good, 77 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: we take it, we do it, we claim it as 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: our own. So the idea is that we'll get rid 79 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: of the fifty one six cents a lead a fuel excise. 80 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, the EV's obviously, I meant everyone's buying evs 81 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: at hybrids at the moment, so you have to pay 82 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: a bit more. 83 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: But you know what, I think it's fair. You use 84 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: the roads, you pay. 85 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: For it, mate, It's beyond fair. Those things are pothole makers. 86 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: I totally think so Holland heavy yees so heavy mate, 87 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 88 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: It's lovely to talk to you. 89 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: As always. Oliver Peterson six pr Perth Live presented. 90 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drave. 91 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talk said B from four pm weekdays, 92 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio