1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: The Commu's Commission has taken a crack at fuel companies 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: for rushing to put the price of petrol up, but 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: then dawdling when they bring it back down. ComCom reckons 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: the fuel companies are costing US motorists fifteen million bucks 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: a year by delaying the drops in the petrol prices. 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Terry Collins is the AA Principal policy advisor and joins me. Now, Hi, Terry, Afternoon, Heather. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: So they call this thing rockets and feathers, where the 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: price rockets up but then feathers down. Is that what 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: you're seeing? 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know if we've seen it or not. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: They've reported on it where they can't explain why it's happening. 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: What I find interesting is that back when they did 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: the market survey in two nineteen, this condition, which is 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: quite common overseas, didn't exist. Now they have a new 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: way of modeling and have found this rocket and feathers 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: effect occurring. Well, I find that interesting is because usually 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: that occurs in a market where there's not a lot 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: of information around pricing. But since the first survey, we've 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: now got all our grades of fuel or advertising outside 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: the service station. We've got these fuel laps, We've got everything. 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: So what should have improved the information consumers as seemed 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: to have an effect that it shouldn't have had, and 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: I can't explain it and they can't explain it. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Are the petrol companies actually obligated? I mean, what's going 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: on right is that the price of oil goes up, 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: so they put the price of petrol up. The price 27 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: of oil comes down, so they slowly put the price petrol. 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Now are they obligated to do it quickly? Can you 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: know they're a business? Can they do it when they 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: want to? 31 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, sometimes due to competition they take a bit 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: of a haircut, no, and other times they've got to 33 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: make up for it. It's a long term game for 34 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: them over the year, with fluctuations within it. I sometimes 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: explain to people, Okay, that tank of fuel in the 36 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: service station there, that was bought over a month ago. 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: I've got ship processed and done whatever, and now they've 38 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: got to sell it. Well, if the price goes down, 39 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: I've still got to They paid a high price for it, 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: so they've got to somehow get their money back. If 41 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: the price goes up, they go, oh, I can't brought 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: that the cheap posts, but my next tank's got to 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: be more expensive, so maybe I just try to get 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: as much as I can, knowing I've got to pay more. 45 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how much of that exists within the market, 46 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: but I would really love explanation from a comcoms to 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: what's causing the suffite. 48 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: The Commics Commission says that kind of warned the fuel 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: companies right. They say that they're going to be watching 50 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: when the Auckland Regional fuel tax comes out, which I 51 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: think is it this month or next month, I can't remember, 52 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: but anyway, end of this month, end of this month, 53 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: are the people company is going to care? 54 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? They are. I mean this is a crescent shot 55 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: across the bail by the Commist Commission. But I'll be 56 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: talking to context within the industry and they're very keen 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: because of the optics on it, not least by the 58 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: media and by the Commuts Commission, to ensure that the 59 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: Auckland motorists get their full eleven and a half cents 60 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: discount or rebate the increasing price come one July. I 61 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: know one of the large major's got a big team 62 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: working on it, trying to get it down by midnal 63 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: it on Matt David. It comes into effect across all 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: these stations. 65 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Now, that's what I want to hear. Terry, love my dollars. 66 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Terry Collins, AA Principal Policy Advisor. 67 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to 68 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: news talks. 69 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 70 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio