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Speaker 1: Move over Waterfront Stadium. Apparently, what if Auckland had its

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Speaker 1: very own waterfront museum. Sir Ian Taylor of Animation Research

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Speaker 1: and former wait Taketi mayor Sir Bob Harvey are calling

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Speaker 1: for a Walker shaped museum and exhibition center to be

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Speaker 1: built on Winyard Point. They reckon they could do the

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Speaker 1: equivalent the Auckland equivalent of the Sydney Opera House. So

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Speaker 1: Ian Taylor's with us, now, Hi, Enn, Hi, how are you? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Who's paying?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? See, everybody starts with their question, yeah, So I

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Speaker 2: start with I'll just start with another one. So this,

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Speaker 2: first of all, isn't my idea. It's an idea that

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Speaker 2: has has that that really interested me coming from Dunedin

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Speaker 2: as I looked at it and the and the story

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Speaker 2: it was telling. So in all the projects we do,

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Speaker 2: and I guess it'll be fair to say I have

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Speaker 2: a we do have a track record here of getting

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Speaker 2: things done. I always start with what if, And it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like, what if that was already there on

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Speaker 2: that point it was a world class facility telling this story?

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Speaker 2: Would it make money? We start? I think what the

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Speaker 2: people behind this? The reason I've stepped up is because

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Speaker 2: I just wanted at least to come into the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Because conversations happened, and you know somebody, then I know

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Speaker 2: there's someone else. Put a stadium there, someone wants to

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Speaker 2: make it a park, someone wants to do something else.

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Speaker 2: I really really saw a strength in this that I

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Speaker 2: just felt needed to be brought to the surface and discussed.

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Speaker 2: And one of the important discussions around that will be

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Speaker 2: how does it get paid for. I think if we

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Speaker 2: saw that, people actually thought, actually, that's a really good idea.

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Speaker 2: The next phase is the full budgeting of it. And

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Speaker 2: then you would never do it unless it made commercial sense.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you two examples. One while watch Kai Kuda

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Speaker 2: Wally Wally Wally came to us, the CEO came to

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Speaker 2: us with that, and he had this idea and he

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Speaker 2: didn't have a He said, don't give me a budget.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to assume you deliver everything you said you

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Speaker 2: could deliver. I'm going to price our tickets on the

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Speaker 2: basis of that. And on the basis of that. He

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Speaker 2: came back and said, here's your budget, and it was

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Speaker 2: twice as much. It's twice more than we need it.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the exercise. If this doesn't make

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Speaker 2: financial sense and people can't make money out of it,

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Speaker 2: you don't do it. Who prays well, it could be

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Speaker 2: a range of anybody. It could be it could be

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Speaker 2: an EWI, it could be in a fully commercial operation,

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Speaker 2: it could be you know, and that there are examples

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Speaker 2: all over the place where that works. So commercially it

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Speaker 2: has to work. We shouldn't be asking one thing we

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Speaker 2: want well, one thing the group is talking about is

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Speaker 2: it's important not to rely on the government for money.

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Speaker 1: That's a great starting point there, Ian.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It's where everybody's going to start.

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Speaker 1: So Ian Taylor, Animation Research Managing Directive. For more from

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