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Speaker 2: Hello Kata, good afternoon, Welcome, and this is the Sunday

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Speaker 2: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB, February two.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pinte show producer Anna McDonald. We're here talking

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Speaker 2: sport with you until three o'clock this afternoon. A very

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Speaker 2: decade or so will not be there this year, former

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Speaker 2: All Black Sir John Kerwin stepping away from Sky Sport

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Speaker 2: after ten years as a commentator and an analyst. We're

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Speaker 2: looking to chat to Sir John Kerwin this afternoon to

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Speaker 2: hear about this decision, how his role has changed over

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Speaker 2: He's got lots of other things going on, but he said, yep,

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Speaker 2: I'll take a call at some stage, so hopefully that

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Speaker 2: that will happen. I also want to know from you

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Speaker 2: though what you want from your rugby commentary, from your

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Speaker 2: you watch. More on that in the moment. Other matters

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Speaker 2: around today. Chris Wood. Chris Wood, his sensational Premier League

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Speaker 2: football season has gone to even greater heights. Overnight He's

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Speaker 2: scored a hat trick as his Nottingham Forest side thumped

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Speaker 2: We'll get you to the UK to unpack that. While

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Speaker 2: with that week one of rugby's six nations is in

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Speaker 2: the books. Wins for France, for Scotland and Ireland. Martin

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Speaker 2: Gillingham going to break all that down for US James

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Speaker 2: mccony in his regular Sunday slot as well Live Sport

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Speaker 2: while we're on the air. Finals day in the T

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Speaker 2: twenty Super Smash, our domestic T twenty competition at the

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Speaker 2: basemin Reservers you heard in our sports news the women's

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Speaker 2: final underway at twelve forty otago top qualifiers up against

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Speaker 2: Wellington who won through the elimination final yesterday. The men's

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Speaker 2: final from four to twenty five Central against Cannabury Canbary

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Speaker 2: coach Peter Fulton's on the show ahead of that one.

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Speaker 2: They've been in the last four finals and not won

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Speaker 2: any of them. Surely it's their time. The Canterbury men's

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Speaker 2: t twenty side. Happily, the forecast in Wellington is pretty

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Speaker 2: women's final at twelve forty, including our toss details very shortly.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

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Speaker 2: As mentioned, Sir John Kerwin leaving Sky Sport as a

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Speaker 3: Jase, Hello, Okay, Pani, I'm going to answer it a

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Speaker 2: No, you have answered it. You have answered it, Jase.

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Speaker 2: You know that's it. And I know that for not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you, Jason'm glad you enjoyed that I

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Speaker 3: Hello Chris, Oh good, I fini I'm going to sound

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Speaker 7: Got to say to you.

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Speaker 8: Expert comments, Andy Harper, he's the best any sports anywhere

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Andy is good. I've I've listened to him for

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Speaker 2: he's got an incredible vocab in command of the English

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Speaker 2: you clearly know a little bit about the game, but

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Speaker 2: What what do you like from guys like Andy and

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Speaker 8: Ah, the insight that they bring to what's unfolding. I mean,

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Speaker 8: everybody can see what's happening, but he explains it from

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Speaker 8: and wish everyone else was like that.

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Speaker 9: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Good Chris, it makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I've enjoyed Andy Harper for a long time,

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Speaker 2: So thanks for your call. Chris Our eight hundred and

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you watching the Breakdown, which which is appointment

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Speaker 10: I don't like it. I don't as I just think

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Speaker 10: You've got to have a company line, man, and Goldie

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, Mate. Twelve twenty two or eight hundred and

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Speaker 12: Not a problem.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete Jeepers. It sounds like you've been been

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Speaker 2: I take what you or what you're saying, Pete. And

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that go into that. It

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Speaker 2: Don't retire JK. Thanks Marz Gary says Nigel Yolden was

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty nine. As mentioned, Sir John Kerwin leaving Sky

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Speaker 2: Sport as a rugby commentator, panelist and analyst ninety six

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Speaker 2: He joined Sky in twenty fifteen, but after a decade

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about this for the last half hour,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well you know where the stars aligne. You just

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Speaker 12: I don't want to I don't want to be, you know,

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Speaker 12: It's been it's been a it's been an amazing, amazing

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Speaker 12: It's something that I always felt, you know, I was

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Speaker 12: I've taken through. You know, it's it's it's a privilege

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Speaker 12: When I played, I always felt that if the person

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Speaker 12: talking about instances where maybe I wasn't playing well, but

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Speaker 12: it wasn't personal, then you know, while it might have

430
00:22:32,347 --> 00:22:35,987
Speaker 12: grated against me, I only had respect for that person.

431
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Speaker 12: So I've tried to keep it as honest as open,

432
00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:45,547
Speaker 12: but also not bringing the personality, but also trying to

433
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Speaker 12: do a little bit of research what is going on

434
00:22:49,387 --> 00:22:53,067
Speaker 12: in the particular player or in the life of a player,

435
00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:56,467
Speaker 12: you know, because often poor performance might be you know,

436
00:22:56,747 --> 00:22:58,907
Speaker 12: holding a little bit of an injury or you know,

437
00:22:59,067 --> 00:23:02,667
Speaker 12: tiredness or whatever. So tried to keep the personal stuff

438
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Speaker 12: out of it and have as much informed information as

439
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Speaker 12: I could.

440
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Speaker 2: Did you ever get any blowback? Did players or coaches

441
00:23:08,907 --> 00:23:10,907
Speaker 2: ever get in touch with you and call you out

442
00:23:10,907 --> 00:23:11,827
Speaker 2: on anything you ever said?

443
00:23:13,067 --> 00:23:14,627
Speaker 12: I had a few phone calls. I had a few

444
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Speaker 12: phone calls from a few people you know, or you

445
00:23:18,707 --> 00:23:20,387
Speaker 12: know a little bit of a little bit of a

446
00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:23,467
Speaker 12: run they walked past me, you know, when someone's not

447
00:23:24,107 --> 00:23:28,267
Speaker 12: happy with you. When the people had picked up the phone,

448
00:23:28,307 --> 00:23:29,907
Speaker 12: that was I always thought that was a good thing

449
00:23:30,187 --> 00:23:34,227
Speaker 12: because it gives both of us to voice our opinion.

450
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Speaker 12: But you know, you're in the long night. I've been

451
00:23:37,387 --> 00:23:41,307
Speaker 12: in the game for a long long time, and constructive

452
00:23:41,387 --> 00:23:43,187
Speaker 12: criticism as all part of it.

453
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Speaker 2: What about in general life, because you're a pretty recognizable

454
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Speaker 2: person in New Zealand, do you get stopped at airport's

455
00:23:48,827 --> 00:23:50,867
Speaker 2: much and sort of drawn into rugby conversation.

456
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what I missed the most. You know, I

457
00:23:53,947 --> 00:23:58,227
Speaker 12: ha had some fantastic you know walking to the to

458
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Speaker 12: the lounge or walking walking to the plane, you know,

459
00:24:03,787 --> 00:24:07,507
Speaker 12: around people throwing out their theories. And I almossed at

460
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Speaker 12: the most because I sort of tried to take as

461
00:24:09,747 --> 00:24:14,827
Speaker 12: much of the public voice and those conversations not only

462
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Speaker 12: to Sky but also to the New Zealand Rugby Union.

463
00:24:17,947 --> 00:24:22,147
Speaker 12: So just let people, you know, let the house to

464
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Speaker 12: be understand what the rugby public and the Sky surprivs

465
00:24:26,947 --> 00:24:29,907
Speaker 12: are actually feeling and how they feel about the game.

466
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Speaker 12: So I always tried to be the voice of the

467
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Speaker 12: public and that's probably what I missed the most, you know,

468
00:24:36,547 --> 00:24:38,827
Speaker 12: you know from being on Sky would be you know,

469
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Speaker 12: to give people the opportunity to talk through me.

470
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Speaker 2: Can you put something to bed for us? Something I

471
00:24:44,827 --> 00:24:47,067
Speaker 2: hear a lot is the idea that Sky commentators are

472
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Speaker 2: told not to be critical of the sport they're covering.

473
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Speaker 2: Have you ever been told by your bosses at Sky

474
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Speaker 2: what you can and can't say?

475
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Speaker 12: Nah, that I would have walked away five years ago

476
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Speaker 12: if that was the case. You know, I think that

477
00:25:02,307 --> 00:25:06,027
Speaker 12: we have an we have an oblique the game, and

478
00:25:06,387 --> 00:25:10,347
Speaker 12: where there's a fine line is when you know, I

479
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Speaker 12: was watching the sixth Naces this morning, point to the

480
00:25:13,107 --> 00:25:17,187
Speaker 12: nineteenth minute of the game against Italy and the Italian

481
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Speaker 12: half act puts the ball under the you know, under

482
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Speaker 12: the second row's foot. I mean, is that a rugby

483
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Speaker 12: league scrub? Or is that a rugby scrum? You know

484
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Speaker 12: what I mean? Like what happened to putting fair contest

485
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Speaker 12: putting it in straight? Things like that really annoy me.

486
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Speaker 12: So I'll have a crack at something like that because

487
00:25:35,307 --> 00:25:38,267
Speaker 12: you know, it's not it's not right. But as far

488
00:25:38,347 --> 00:25:42,107
Speaker 12: as is being critical of the game. No one's ever

489
00:25:42,147 --> 00:25:44,587
Speaker 12: said to me, you know, you shouldn't say this or

490
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Speaker 12: you shouldn't say that.

491
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Speaker 2: So what are we going to do? Well, what are

492
00:25:48,147 --> 00:25:49,747
Speaker 2: you going to do with all the gaps in your diary?

493
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Speaker 12: Now, Oh, that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing.

494
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Speaker 12: Well put it this way. I just went for a

495
00:25:55,867 --> 00:25:58,507
Speaker 12: surf fight. So I apologize because you were supposed to

496
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Speaker 12: ring at the eleven and I forgot went for a surf.

497
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Speaker 13: And that.

498
00:26:03,947 --> 00:26:08,707
Speaker 12: My wife has been incredible person in my life. She's

499
00:26:08,707 --> 00:26:13,107
Speaker 12: sacrificed so much. I'm about, you know, leaving her country

500
00:26:13,147 --> 00:26:16,547
Speaker 12: and coming here, going to Japan and that sort of stuff.

501
00:26:16,587 --> 00:26:19,267
Speaker 12: So we promised ourselves that would spend more time in Italy.

502
00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:22,507
Speaker 12: So you know, that's one of the things of the

503
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Speaker 12: One of the stars that aligned was you know, every

504
00:26:25,307 --> 00:26:32,667
Speaker 12: Sunday every weekend from now until December. So you know,

505
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Speaker 12: I haven't made any decisions. I still like to be

506
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:38,227
Speaker 12: a voice in the game. I don't know what I'm

507
00:26:38,267 --> 00:26:41,147
Speaker 12: do moving forward. We'll see what comes out of the woodwork,

508
00:26:41,227 --> 00:26:44,987
Speaker 12: and but I'll be around around the game. And the

509
00:26:45,027 --> 00:26:47,627
Speaker 12: game has been incredibly good to me, and you know,

510
00:26:47,827 --> 00:26:49,907
Speaker 12: I love it with a passion, so I don't think

511
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Speaker 12: I'll be able to not have an opinion.

512
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Speaker 2: We hope to see you back on our screens well,

513
00:26:55,867 --> 00:27:00,027
Speaker 2: certainly somewhere with an ability your platform to force those opinions. JK.

514
00:27:00,227 --> 00:27:04,067
Speaker 2: Great tenure. A decade in broadcasting is to be congratulated.

515
00:27:04,147 --> 00:27:06,307
Speaker 2: As you know, it's not the most stable of industries.

516
00:27:06,387 --> 00:27:08,147
Speaker 2: So thanks for taking the time for a chat made

517
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Speaker 2: and I hope you get a lot more surfaging.

518
00:27:10,587 --> 00:27:11,907
Speaker 12: Appreciate it, mate, have a good one.

519
00:27:12,027 --> 00:27:14,027
Speaker 2: You tell you all the best. Thanks JK. So John

520
00:27:14,067 --> 00:27:17,467
Speaker 2: Kerwin joining us there a eight hundred and eighty ten

521
00:27:17,547 --> 00:27:20,987
Speaker 2: eighty Yeah, interested in As I said at the top

522
00:27:20,987 --> 00:27:23,267
Speaker 2: of the show, what you want from guys like JK.

523
00:27:23,387 --> 00:27:24,747
Speaker 2: And he's just so authentic, isn't he?

524
00:27:25,027 --> 00:27:25,227
Speaker 12: You know?

525
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Speaker 2: Just there that's the I would imagine if you ran

526
00:27:28,467 --> 00:27:31,107
Speaker 2: into JK at the airport or anywhere, if you saw

527
00:27:31,187 --> 00:27:34,107
Speaker 2: him on the street or at the beach or wherever

528
00:27:34,147 --> 00:27:36,147
Speaker 2: it was, he would sound exactly the same as he

529
00:27:36,227 --> 00:27:40,827
Speaker 2: sounded then as he sounds on TV. He's just utterly authentic.

530
00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:42,507
Speaker 2: What you see is what you get from him, and

531
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Speaker 2: I think that's probably one of the secrets of his success,

532
00:27:47,067 --> 00:27:50,427
Speaker 2: that he didn't try to be something else. He wasn't,

533
00:27:50,547 --> 00:27:52,587
Speaker 2: you know, making it up or putting on an act.

534
00:27:54,347 --> 00:27:57,867
Speaker 2: It was just him, him and his opinions on Listen.

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00:27:58,507 --> 00:28:02,027
Speaker 14: Hello, Calvin, you got out to learn Jason, Just briefly.

536
00:28:02,107 --> 00:28:06,947
Speaker 14: First of all, that chap from Taranaki with Chemi cares.

537
00:28:07,947 --> 00:28:10,827
Speaker 14: For decades ago, they used to start rugby at three

538
00:28:10,867 --> 00:28:13,467
Speaker 14: o'clock or two thirty whatever it was, to give the

539
00:28:13,467 --> 00:28:16,107
Speaker 14: farmers plenty of time for milking. Anyway, they're moving on

540
00:28:16,147 --> 00:28:20,867
Speaker 14: from that. I've always enjoyed going to see live netball

541
00:28:20,907 --> 00:28:23,067
Speaker 14: here in the tron, particularly the way could have made

542
00:28:23,067 --> 00:28:27,307
Speaker 14: plenty magic and all the silver firms playing and what

543
00:28:27,387 --> 00:28:30,987
Speaker 14: I like, you know, see this different spectacular bits and

544
00:28:31,027 --> 00:28:34,147
Speaker 14: pieces happening, and then within the next couple of days,

545
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Speaker 14: as it were, I'd go along to some pub where

546
00:28:36,827 --> 00:28:40,747
Speaker 14: they've got the replay or where they've got the TV

547
00:28:40,787 --> 00:28:43,027
Speaker 14: ship part of it showing, and I'd be able to

548
00:28:43,107 --> 00:28:48,147
Speaker 14: look out to see how something eventuated, how something fantastic happened,

549
00:28:48,507 --> 00:28:51,107
Speaker 14: because I'd be ready for it to happen as it were.

550
00:28:51,667 --> 00:28:56,547
Speaker 14: And I've always enjoyed Nigel Eelden doing the netball commentating.

551
00:28:56,867 --> 00:29:00,427
Speaker 14: But I'll tell you what before I croak. There's one

552
00:29:00,827 --> 00:29:05,427
Speaker 14: fantastic dame hood still to take place, and that is

553
00:29:05,507 --> 00:29:10,347
Speaker 14: Iron Fund, the world's greatest ever netball shooter. And at

554
00:29:10,387 --> 00:29:14,987
Speaker 14: the moment, I'm surprised she wasn't made a dame quite

555
00:29:14,987 --> 00:29:15,747
Speaker 14: a few years ago.

556
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Speaker 12: What do you reckon?

557
00:29:16,587 --> 00:29:20,027
Speaker 2: Has she got an honor of any sort? Calvin?

558
00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:20,347
Speaker 6: Do you know?

559
00:29:21,107 --> 00:29:25,307
Speaker 14: I'm pretty sure I haven't really given her the extra thought,

560
00:29:25,587 --> 00:29:27,907
Speaker 14: but I think I'm pretty sure she has.

561
00:29:29,507 --> 00:29:32,507
Speaker 2: I can confirm it. Yeah, she's a member of the

562
00:29:32,547 --> 00:29:34,707
Speaker 2: New Zealand Order of Merit, so she.

563
00:29:35,787 --> 00:29:38,307
Speaker 14: Needs she needs to be upgraded. Because there's been so

564
00:29:38,387 --> 00:29:42,347
Speaker 14: many knighthoods and dame hoods in the last decade, she

565
00:29:42,507 --> 00:29:46,307
Speaker 14: definitely should be there amongst them. Dame Irene van Dake.

566
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Speaker 14: I know a lot of New Zealanders call her a

567
00:29:48,987 --> 00:29:52,907
Speaker 14: different name, but I like to call her her.

568
00:29:52,707 --> 00:29:55,387
Speaker 2: Correct name, all right, Calvin on, who knows? We've got

569
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Speaker 2: a lot of sporting dames, haven't we. Dame Lisa Carrington,

570
00:29:59,187 --> 00:30:03,267
Speaker 2: Dame Sophie Pasco We're on the show yesterday, Dame Valerie Adams. Yeah,

571
00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:07,627
Speaker 2: Dame and Dame Irene van Dyke. I mean, I wouldn't

572
00:30:07,627 --> 00:30:11,227
Speaker 2: be against it. I don't think against anybody being made

573
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Speaker 2: a dame for their sporting feats. Paul says, jas I

574
00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:17,707
Speaker 2: gree with your caller you just had on that New

575
00:30:17,787 --> 00:30:24,227
Speaker 2: Zealand commentators the Rex players sometimes though they overanalyze. The

576
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Speaker 2: Australian commentators have a bit of humor and don't analyze

577
00:30:27,627 --> 00:30:30,947
Speaker 2: every shot or every play. Paul, it's so interesting again,

578
00:30:31,027 --> 00:30:34,027
Speaker 2: you know, this is just a great example of the

579
00:30:34,067 --> 00:30:36,867
Speaker 2: differences because you hear people say, oh, you know, they

580
00:30:36,947 --> 00:30:38,987
Speaker 2: talk about the game, you know, don't make jokes and

581
00:30:39,067 --> 00:30:40,827
Speaker 2: have fun and all that sort of thing, talk about

582
00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:43,187
Speaker 2: the game, and then when someone does that, so oh

583
00:30:43,267 --> 00:30:45,227
Speaker 2: you need to inject a bit more humor. You never

584
00:30:45,307 --> 00:30:47,467
Speaker 2: go to please everybody, but I'm keen to know what

585
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Speaker 2: you would like from your commentary and indeed your expert

586
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Speaker 2: commentators and John Kirkwin Sir jk Any thoughts on his retirement.

587
00:30:58,827 --> 00:31:01,067
Speaker 2: Nineteen nine two is our text line eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. The Blaze have won the toss in

589
00:31:03,827 --> 00:31:07,267
Speaker 2: Wellington and have elected to bat first in the women's

590
00:31:07,347 --> 00:31:11,587
Speaker 2: Super Smash final against Otago. Millie Kerr and Rebecca Burns

591
00:31:11,627 --> 00:31:13,867
Speaker 2: wandering out to bat right now, we'll keep you across

592
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Speaker 2: that keep your lines open though here on zb OH

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back in a.

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Speaker 2: from One talking commentary This afternoon for a week while longer,

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Speaker 2: Hello Lindsay.

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00:31:36,787 --> 00:31:40,547
Speaker 15: Hey, Cristly Surprisingly John Cooan saying he didn't mind being

601
00:31:40,547 --> 00:31:44,507
Speaker 15: stopped in the airport and talking radby to passengers because

602
00:31:44,507 --> 00:31:46,507
Speaker 15: it was all feedback. I'm surprised at that.

603
00:31:46,747 --> 00:31:48,347
Speaker 2: Did you think that he would be that he would

604
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Speaker 2: sort of ignore people and give them the big fend?

605
00:31:51,187 --> 00:31:53,187
Speaker 15: No, no, no, no, not at all. But I just

606
00:31:53,187 --> 00:31:55,107
Speaker 15: thought he must might have probably got tired of.

607
00:31:55,107 --> 00:31:58,587
Speaker 2: Oh right, right, No, well, well clearly not. I think

608
00:31:58,947 --> 00:32:00,947
Speaker 2: they often say they often say that when people stop

609
00:32:00,947 --> 00:32:03,067
Speaker 2: approaching you, that's when you need to start worrying.

610
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Speaker 15: Anyway, it wasn't my main point. Slightly off topic. There

611
00:32:07,507 --> 00:32:10,067
Speaker 15: was a TV program and a couple of years ago,

612
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Speaker 15: I can't quite remember the name, but there was an

613
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Speaker 15: Irish guy with a beanie hat on and another guy

614
00:32:15,227 --> 00:32:18,507
Speaker 15: and he used to actually analyze the game on TV

615
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Speaker 15: and I can't remember and one of the sports programs

616
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Speaker 15: you might recall it.

617
00:32:23,467 --> 00:32:25,827
Speaker 2: I do recall it, and I think the title of

618
00:32:25,827 --> 00:32:27,987
Speaker 2: it had numbers in it or something. That's very vague,

619
00:32:28,027 --> 00:32:31,147
Speaker 2: I know, but I what you're saying does ring a

620
00:32:31,147 --> 00:32:33,227
Speaker 2: bell with me, Lindsay, someone will know, they'll text it in.

621
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Speaker 15: What impressed me most was they actually sit there with

622
00:32:37,907 --> 00:32:40,467
Speaker 15: the picture of the game and the whiteboard saying this

623
00:32:40,547 --> 00:32:42,267
Speaker 15: guy moved to the left and this guy should have

624
00:32:42,267 --> 00:32:44,587
Speaker 15: gone to the right. There was a gap here, and

625
00:32:44,787 --> 00:32:47,347
Speaker 15: it was just a wonderful analysis. I don't know where

626
00:32:47,387 --> 00:32:49,227
Speaker 15: the guy I had played rugby or not, but I

627
00:32:49,347 --> 00:32:49,787
Speaker 15: enjoyed that.

628
00:32:50,067 --> 00:32:53,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, that deep dive stuff is really interesting, isn't it, lindsay.

629
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Speaker 2: When you know, some people just like the sort of

630
00:32:54,787 --> 00:32:56,867
Speaker 2: once over lately and they'll watch the game and they

631
00:32:56,947 --> 00:32:58,267
Speaker 2: might watch a bit of the post match and then

632
00:32:58,267 --> 00:33:00,427
Speaker 2: they'll forget about the game. But yeah, for those who

633
00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:04,107
Speaker 2: are really really deeply invested in it and want something deeper.

634
00:33:04,267 --> 00:33:06,947
Speaker 2: The ten fourteen Rugby show, that was it? The ten

635
00:33:07,107 --> 00:33:10,707
Speaker 2: fourteen rugby show. Yep, some Nigel's just texted and given

636
00:33:10,787 --> 00:33:11,627
Speaker 2: us the answer.

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00:33:12,587 --> 00:33:14,867
Speaker 15: I was spreading here in the States about forty years

638
00:33:14,907 --> 00:33:18,387
Speaker 15: ago in their analysis of good iron games was just phenomenal.

639
00:33:18,627 --> 00:33:20,427
Speaker 15: I mean it's easy to analyze because there are our

640
00:33:20,507 --> 00:33:23,507
Speaker 15: set moves, but they can just pinpoint which guy got

641
00:33:23,547 --> 00:33:26,467
Speaker 15: moved where and who went through which gap. Was just phenomenal.

642
00:33:27,147 --> 00:33:30,027
Speaker 2: And yeah, in a game like a game like American football,

643
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Speaker 2: you know, when it's all x's and o's, I enjoyed that.

644
00:33:33,747 --> 00:33:35,907
Speaker 2: I enjoy that that coverage as well as I'm not

645
00:33:35,947 --> 00:33:39,867
Speaker 2: a deep understander of NFL, you know, gridiron football. My

646
00:33:39,947 --> 00:33:42,707
Speaker 2: son's the expert in our family, but watching it with

647
00:33:42,787 --> 00:33:44,827
Speaker 2: him and just the just the analysis you get there

648
00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:47,187
Speaker 2: for a you know, for if you acknowledge isn't at

649
00:33:47,187 --> 00:33:49,507
Speaker 2: the at the top level, it's it's terrific when you

650
00:33:49,547 --> 00:33:50,747
Speaker 2: get that kind of analysis.

651
00:33:51,227 --> 00:33:53,027
Speaker 15: Totally agree, Totally agree, good man.

652
00:33:52,947 --> 00:33:55,147
Speaker 2: Lindsay, thanks for calling in. I really appreciate it. Oh

653
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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eightys ourn number, Hello, Steve.

654
00:33:58,067 --> 00:33:59,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, how you doing?

655
00:33:59,627 --> 00:33:59,787
Speaker 1: Yeah?

656
00:33:59,827 --> 00:34:00,027
Speaker 17: Good to.

657
00:34:00,827 --> 00:34:02,707
Speaker 16: If you've ever seen a little said look and face,

658
00:34:02,787 --> 00:34:04,907
Speaker 16: it was the cricketer that just went out without facing

659
00:34:04,987 --> 00:34:05,347
Speaker 16: the ball.

660
00:34:06,147 --> 00:34:07,947
Speaker 2: Oh, run out without facing a ball?

661
00:34:08,307 --> 00:34:08,627
Speaker 18: Yeah?

662
00:34:08,667 --> 00:34:11,907
Speaker 2: Oh no diamond duck. They call it a diamond duck. Well,

663
00:34:12,027 --> 00:34:14,867
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess at least it's not Meally Kerr,

664
00:34:14,907 --> 00:34:17,387
Speaker 2: who was our main hope. If I talking on behalf

665
00:34:17,427 --> 00:34:21,547
Speaker 2: of Wellington, he's run out without facing a ball, dear.

666
00:34:22,587 --> 00:34:25,707
Speaker 16: Anyway, Yeah, I could tell that guy was a farmer

667
00:34:25,707 --> 00:34:28,747
Speaker 16: because he was moaning. But anyway, Hey, something I'm probably

668
00:34:28,747 --> 00:34:32,067
Speaker 16: a little controversial, something I do not want to have

669
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Speaker 16: as a commentator. And she's actually on the mic today

670
00:34:35,667 --> 00:34:40,107
Speaker 16: or on the speaker of fame is Susie Bates. I'm sorry.

671
00:34:40,147 --> 00:34:44,907
Speaker 16: She has the worst monotone voice for a commentator.

672
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure

673
00:34:47,587 --> 00:34:50,227
Speaker 2: she can. That's the difficulty. I mean, she's playing, So

674
00:34:50,267 --> 00:34:52,027
Speaker 2: you mean she's out on the player mic rather than

675
00:34:52,027 --> 00:34:54,987
Speaker 2: commentating today, yea yea yeah, yeah, yah yah, I sort of.

676
00:34:55,067 --> 00:34:59,947
Speaker 2: I find it difficult to criticize or critique the voice

677
00:34:59,987 --> 00:35:01,667
Speaker 2: as such. I know it's a big part of it, Steve,

678
00:35:01,707 --> 00:35:04,827
Speaker 2: and I know not everybody's voices is palatable to every

679
00:35:04,867 --> 00:35:05,467
Speaker 2: set of ears.

680
00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:10,507
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just a straight mono tone

681
00:35:10,587 --> 00:35:13,147
Speaker 16: voice and it's just it's just the level. And I'm

682
00:35:13,187 --> 00:35:17,267
Speaker 16: sorry it just greats me. Basically, sorry, would with another

683
00:35:17,347 --> 00:35:19,547
Speaker 16: three goals today, look after.

684
00:35:19,827 --> 00:35:21,867
Speaker 2: If you can, if you can hang in Steve. After one,

685
00:35:21,907 --> 00:35:23,227
Speaker 2: we're going to go to the UK and talk to

686
00:35:24,027 --> 00:35:26,587
Speaker 2: the host of a Nottingham Forest podcast about Chris Wood

687
00:35:26,947 --> 00:35:29,627
Speaker 2: and that hat trick and Nottingham Forest's incredible form. Good

688
00:35:29,667 --> 00:35:32,147
Speaker 2: to talk to you, mate, Thanks for calling in. Yeah,

689
00:35:32,187 --> 00:35:33,867
Speaker 2: the ten to fourteen rugby show, A lot of people

690
00:35:33,907 --> 00:35:37,347
Speaker 2: have texted and it was by a length the best

691
00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:39,307
Speaker 2: rugby show in the world. As a shame it's gone.

692
00:35:39,347 --> 00:35:42,387
Speaker 2: I wonder what happened to it. I actually don't you know.

693
00:35:42,787 --> 00:35:45,867
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it regularly. I was aware of it

694
00:35:45,947 --> 00:35:48,107
Speaker 2: and and it was a real deep dive.

695
00:35:48,507 --> 00:35:48,827
Speaker 6: It was.

696
00:35:49,427 --> 00:35:55,027
Speaker 2: It was the real detailed stuff. Not for everybody obviously,

697
00:35:55,307 --> 00:35:59,027
Speaker 2: but for real rugby tragics to be able to watch

698
00:35:59,067 --> 00:36:00,307
Speaker 2: it and have stuff explained to you.

699
00:36:00,627 --> 00:36:00,867
Speaker 12: That was.

700
00:36:01,067 --> 00:36:03,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was plenty going on there. It was great

701
00:36:04,867 --> 00:36:08,067
Speaker 2: text through here. Yeah, I'd like more professional team experts

702
00:36:08,107 --> 00:36:12,347
Speaker 2: for analysis and deep dives. I'm an old girl, says Dana.

703
00:36:13,107 --> 00:36:16,227
Speaker 2: I can't fault Chris Laidlaw and Earl Curtin. They were great,

704
00:36:16,267 --> 00:36:21,467
Speaker 2: weren't they Critically intelligent analysts, says Dana JK. Very good,

705
00:36:21,587 --> 00:36:25,467
Speaker 2: considered and compassionate. Thanks Dana, appreciate your feedback.

706
00:36:28,387 --> 00:36:33,267
Speaker 19: Peter, Hi, good a there, Jason. I'm a married mix

707
00:36:33,307 --> 00:36:34,067
Speaker 19: Steed supporter.

708
00:36:34,387 --> 00:36:37,747
Speaker 2: I know you are, Peter, I know you are. We've

709
00:36:37,787 --> 00:36:40,587
Speaker 2: spoken about this before, but no I met them mix

710
00:36:40,707 --> 00:36:43,507
Speaker 2: another one but like JK, but left feel it.

711
00:36:44,667 --> 00:36:47,627
Speaker 19: Yep, definitely. And I think if you asked Murray, I

712
00:36:47,707 --> 00:36:49,427
Speaker 19: think you'd come back on again too.

713
00:36:50,747 --> 00:36:54,227
Speaker 2: He was some I remember him being quite polarizing. I

714
00:36:54,307 --> 00:36:58,027
Speaker 2: always liked Mex. I always really enjoy what he brought

715
00:36:58,347 --> 00:37:01,867
Speaker 2: alongside in his bow, for example Gruntner's. But I really

716
00:37:01,987 --> 00:37:04,507
Speaker 2: enjoyed those two together. I'm not sure what happened.

717
00:37:04,227 --> 00:37:05,507
Speaker 5: There, Yep.

718
00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:08,387
Speaker 19: I think that is a great marriage, that was, and

719
00:37:08,507 --> 00:37:10,627
Speaker 19: I think he could make another marriage too.

720
00:37:11,947 --> 00:37:14,627
Speaker 5: Back on the sky, I wondered.

721
00:37:14,387 --> 00:37:18,547
Speaker 2: What you were driving at the sure where you were going?

722
00:37:19,307 --> 00:37:22,187
Speaker 19: Okay, I went off of.

723
00:37:24,987 --> 00:37:27,547
Speaker 2: Your voice mate. Yeah, Murray mixed it out. I mean

724
00:37:27,787 --> 00:37:30,427
Speaker 2: we'll always remember him in his commentary. Hey, Heidi, how

725
00:37:30,467 --> 00:37:31,947
Speaker 2: are you Hi?

726
00:37:32,147 --> 00:37:35,707
Speaker 13: Good? Very quick, short and sweet. I want the commentators

727
00:37:35,747 --> 00:37:39,787
Speaker 13: to stop yapping when the when the the referee is

728
00:37:39,867 --> 00:37:43,027
Speaker 13: explaining things, they talk over the top, and I'm thinking,

729
00:37:43,387 --> 00:37:45,907
Speaker 13: why why did he stop? What's he explaining to the

730
00:37:46,387 --> 00:37:49,467
Speaker 13: to the players, And when the guys talk over the top,

731
00:37:49,907 --> 00:37:51,787
Speaker 13: it just makes me grip my teeth.

732
00:37:52,227 --> 00:37:54,587
Speaker 2: Hidi, it's a great point, and I think you'll get

733
00:37:54,587 --> 00:37:56,187
Speaker 2: a lot of people nodding your head at that. I

734
00:37:56,227 --> 00:37:59,387
Speaker 2: think from in the commentary box. Most of the time, though,

735
00:37:59,547 --> 00:38:03,107
Speaker 2: the commentators are told to not talk when the referee

736
00:38:03,187 --> 00:38:04,827
Speaker 2: is because you're right, you're hearing a lot of really

737
00:38:04,947 --> 00:38:07,787
Speaker 2: valuable information about why decision has been given or not.

738
00:38:08,067 --> 00:38:09,907
Speaker 2: Maybe sometimes I just don't quite get the queue in

739
00:38:09,947 --> 00:38:10,867
Speaker 2: the erear or whatever it is.

740
00:38:10,947 --> 00:38:13,427
Speaker 13: But no, I think every I was just hyped up

741
00:38:13,467 --> 00:38:15,587
Speaker 13: on their own chat, you know, and they've got something

742
00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:18,507
Speaker 13: to say and blah blah blah, and I think they're

743
00:38:18,587 --> 00:38:21,667
Speaker 13: just not even noticing that the players tapped and the

744
00:38:21,827 --> 00:38:25,827
Speaker 13: referees explaining something. I don't know, but it just does

745
00:38:26,067 --> 00:38:28,787
Speaker 13: really annoy me because I want to hear about the game.

746
00:38:28,827 --> 00:38:30,747
Speaker 13: You know, I used to massage the all Blacks before

747
00:38:30,747 --> 00:38:32,307
Speaker 13: they became professionals.

748
00:38:32,027 --> 00:38:35,467
Speaker 15: Did you, Yes, I did. I was a very very

749
00:38:35,507 --> 00:38:37,227
Speaker 15: good massrs.

750
00:38:37,587 --> 00:38:41,827
Speaker 13: I started with my brother's friends at the at North

751
00:38:41,867 --> 00:38:46,347
Speaker 13: Shall Rugby and then one became a North Harbor player.

752
00:38:46,707 --> 00:38:48,827
Speaker 13: Then he became a seventh player, and then they called

753
00:38:48,867 --> 00:38:52,867
Speaker 13: me up to every time the All Blacks met, I

754
00:38:52,907 --> 00:38:54,987
Speaker 13: would go up and offer my services. I thought it

755
00:38:55,107 --> 00:38:57,867
Speaker 13: was better than signing up to being a supporter that

756
00:38:57,907 --> 00:39:00,347
Speaker 13: Wales what I can support with my hands. So for

757
00:39:00,467 --> 00:39:02,987
Speaker 13: about four years, every time they came up to Auckland,

758
00:39:03,107 --> 00:39:05,427
Speaker 13: I just went up, because I lived in Devonport, went

759
00:39:05,507 --> 00:39:08,547
Speaker 13: up to the Pronoma and message just just.

760
00:39:08,667 --> 00:39:09,827
Speaker 2: On a volunteer basis.

761
00:39:10,867 --> 00:39:13,187
Speaker 13: Well it was volunteer in those days. And in fact

762
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:16,627
Speaker 13: I was so annoyed about this I wrote to the

763
00:39:17,267 --> 00:39:20,627
Speaker 13: rugby board and said, you have to get a massa

764
00:39:20,787 --> 00:39:23,587
Speaker 13: who travels with them so he can he can message

765
00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:26,027
Speaker 13: them on the plane or you know, just rub their

766
00:39:26,067 --> 00:39:29,507
Speaker 13: backs or next or whatever. Just they deserved their own

767
00:39:29,627 --> 00:39:32,067
Speaker 13: because they used to go to England and then depend

768
00:39:32,187 --> 00:39:34,667
Speaker 13: on somebody to volunteer their services.

769
00:39:35,147 --> 00:39:36,787
Speaker 2: I hope they gave you. I hope they gave you

770
00:39:37,067 --> 00:39:38,627
Speaker 2: some free tickets or something today.

771
00:39:39,107 --> 00:39:41,747
Speaker 13: No, it was it was George Verett, who was the

772
00:39:42,427 --> 00:39:44,187
Speaker 13: whatever he was, who was the head. Anyway, he wrote

773
00:39:44,227 --> 00:39:45,947
Speaker 13: back to the end sort of clefted me on the

774
00:39:46,027 --> 00:39:48,747
Speaker 13: head and said, oh, you know we weren't bother doing

775
00:39:48,827 --> 00:39:50,987
Speaker 13: listening as players asked for it? And I wrote back

776
00:39:51,027 --> 00:39:53,187
Speaker 13: and I said, you're asking guys pulled off the farm.

777
00:39:53,787 --> 00:39:57,347
Speaker 13: You know what they need? You know a different ends?

778
00:39:57,467 --> 00:39:57,547
Speaker 17: Ye?

779
00:39:57,867 --> 00:39:58,187
Speaker 2: Different.

780
00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:01,147
Speaker 13: Then they listened to me. Yeah, and they got in

781
00:40:01,267 --> 00:40:01,827
Speaker 13: the next time.

782
00:40:02,187 --> 00:40:02,587
Speaker 20: Who was it?

783
00:40:02,987 --> 00:40:03,147
Speaker 10: Oh?

784
00:40:03,227 --> 00:40:06,787
Speaker 13: Yes, the French came and the French followed by the

785
00:40:06,867 --> 00:40:11,227
Speaker 13: South Africans, and they didn't call me. So I speak

786
00:40:11,267 --> 00:40:13,867
Speaker 13: fluent French, and with a friend, I went to the

787
00:40:14,267 --> 00:40:17,707
Speaker 13: hotel just to say hi to the couple and they

788
00:40:17,787 --> 00:40:19,827
Speaker 13: wrote me in and I was messaging them and stick

789
00:40:20,187 --> 00:40:23,987
Speaker 13: and I think I'm responsible for France beating the All

790
00:40:24,027 --> 00:40:37,987
Speaker 13: Blacks said, because I messaged, oh come, what's a little Yes, yes,

791
00:40:39,147 --> 00:40:41,587
Speaker 13: I messurged him. I was an idiot. I said to

792
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:44,987
Speaker 13: him anytime, because I was on call at the hotels

793
00:40:45,027 --> 00:40:47,547
Speaker 13: as well, so I said, you know, anytime you need

794
00:40:47,627 --> 00:40:49,787
Speaker 13: a message. Well he called me at two am.

795
00:40:52,147 --> 00:40:54,347
Speaker 2: Heid. This is a wonderful story, but unfortunately I'm running

796
00:40:54,347 --> 00:40:56,867
Speaker 2: out of time. I'm so glad you called. I would

797
00:40:56,867 --> 00:40:58,427
Speaker 2: love to hear more. But it sounds like you've had

798
00:40:58,427 --> 00:41:03,027
Speaker 2: a tremendous time spending time with the All Blacks and

799
00:41:03,067 --> 00:41:05,187
Speaker 2: the French. Rugby team as well. We will blame you

800
00:41:05,267 --> 00:41:07,867
Speaker 2: for that defeat. Seven away from one news talk text,

801
00:41:07,867 --> 00:41:10,507
Speaker 2: I listened to rugby on the radio. Elliott Smith is great.

802
00:41:11,227 --> 00:41:13,587
Speaker 2: I can see the game as it plays out with

803
00:41:13,707 --> 00:41:16,427
Speaker 2: his commentary. Very grateful to him. From a non Sky

804
00:41:16,547 --> 00:41:20,347
Speaker 2: Sport person, I totally agree. I love listening to Elliott

805
00:41:20,387 --> 00:41:22,787
Speaker 2: call the rugby. He's a beauty. Three and a half

806
00:41:22,987 --> 00:41:27,267
Speaker 2: away from one now after one o'clock Chris Wood. Unfortunately

807
00:41:27,267 --> 00:41:30,627
Speaker 2: he couldn't take the call. He's quite busy and quite famous.

808
00:41:30,667 --> 00:41:33,267
Speaker 2: Now what want to talk about Chris Wood with the

809
00:41:33,307 --> 00:41:36,107
Speaker 2: host of a Nottingham Forest podcast and get your views

810
00:41:36,107 --> 00:41:36,507
Speaker 2: on him too.

811
00:41:38,067 --> 00:41:40,907
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

812
00:41:41,067 --> 00:41:42,747
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

813
00:41:43,267 --> 00:41:45,107
Speaker 2: It's all on Weekend Sport.

814
00:41:44,867 --> 00:41:48,027
Speaker 1: With Jason Vaine on your home of Sport.

815
00:41:49,107 --> 00:41:49,627
Speaker 21: New York.

816
00:41:50,827 --> 00:41:54,027
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome back to the Weekend Sport, or welcome

817
00:41:54,107 --> 00:41:58,547
Speaker 2: into Weekend Sport, as the case may be. We're keeping

818
00:41:58,587 --> 00:42:00,867
Speaker 2: an eye on live sport this afternoon from the Basement Reserve.

819
00:42:00,867 --> 00:42:04,467
Speaker 2: It is the Super Smash Finals, the women's game underway,

820
00:42:04,507 --> 00:42:08,387
Speaker 2: Otago v Wellington. As on our Sports News, Rebecca Burns

821
00:42:08,467 --> 00:42:11,307
Speaker 2: run out without facing a ball. The worst way to

822
00:42:11,347 --> 00:42:15,787
Speaker 2: get out in cricket. Well instead have recovered somewhat through

823
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,187
Speaker 2: to thirty two for one. That's through seven overs though,

824
00:42:19,267 --> 00:42:22,987
Speaker 2: so they're not going along particularly quickly. However, on merely

825
00:42:23,067 --> 00:42:25,107
Speaker 2: curves at the crease, anything is possible and she is

826
00:42:25,187 --> 00:42:26,947
Speaker 2: still there, so we'll keep eyes on that for you.

827
00:42:27,227 --> 00:42:30,227
Speaker 2: Are Connell on text Pinty. Big game for the New

828
00:42:30,347 --> 00:42:34,187
Speaker 2: Zealand Under twenty one Black Sticks today playing the Australian

829
00:42:34,347 --> 00:42:37,267
Speaker 2: Under twenty ones and the third match decider of the

830
00:42:37,347 --> 00:42:41,587
Speaker 2: Oceania Cup, which New Zealand hasn't won since two thousand

831
00:42:41,667 --> 00:42:45,827
Speaker 2: and three. Two o'clock this afternoon, Lloyd Ellesmore Park. That's

832
00:42:46,347 --> 00:42:49,747
Speaker 2: an Auckland I think puck on hanger lloyd Ellesmore Park

833
00:42:49,787 --> 00:42:53,067
Speaker 2: from memory. All all the best to out under twenty

834
00:42:53,147 --> 00:42:55,467
Speaker 2: one Black Sticks as they try and win the Oceania

835
00:42:55,547 --> 00:43:01,627
Speaker 2: Cup for the first time in over two decades. James

836
00:43:01,667 --> 00:43:03,747
Speaker 2: mcconie's on the show this out in his regular slot

837
00:43:03,787 --> 00:43:06,067
Speaker 2: around one forty five, but I want to kick things

838
00:43:06,107 --> 00:43:11,067
Speaker 2: off with football Unreal scenes in the Premier League overnight

839
00:43:11,307 --> 00:43:14,147
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest, who are in the midst of a season

840
00:43:14,187 --> 00:43:19,307
Speaker 2: which is becoming increasingly more special have beaten Brighton seven nil,

841
00:43:19,747 --> 00:43:23,947
Speaker 2: seven nil, their biggest win since the nineteen ninety seven

842
00:43:24,307 --> 00:43:27,787
Speaker 2: ninety eight season, their biggest ever in the Premier League

843
00:43:28,107 --> 00:43:29,867
Speaker 2: and it keeps them in third place on the table.

844
00:43:29,987 --> 00:43:33,067
Speaker 2: Our very own Chris Wood, who himself as having a

845
00:43:33,147 --> 00:43:37,307
Speaker 2: season to dream of, had another day out Helngo.

846
00:43:42,467 --> 00:43:42,947
Speaker 22: It's of that.

847
00:43:44,667 --> 00:43:49,827
Speaker 2: And this time it's Chris Wood who gets it charging forward.

848
00:43:49,907 --> 00:43:51,987
Speaker 2: Now for Forest, still gow.

849
00:43:56,907 --> 00:44:00,587
Speaker 23: And Chris what thanks, no mistake, it's a hutrey for

850
00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:03,867
Speaker 23: him this afternoon, and not a good Forest.

851
00:44:03,947 --> 00:44:06,747
Speaker 2: Half five and went on to get seven a hat

852
00:44:06,787 --> 00:44:10,267
Speaker 2: trick for Chris Wood. Seventeen goals this season now by

853
00:44:10,387 --> 00:44:13,147
Speaker 2: far his best, and there's still plenty of time to go.

854
00:44:13,467 --> 00:44:16,827
Speaker 2: Eighty six all up in the Premier League. Now for

855
00:44:16,907 --> 00:44:20,107
Speaker 2: Chris Wood, that has him inside the top fifty goal

856
00:44:20,227 --> 00:44:23,147
Speaker 2: scorers since the start of the Premier League in nineteen

857
00:44:23,387 --> 00:44:26,307
Speaker 2: ninety two. Let's get here to the UK. A host

858
00:44:26,507 --> 00:44:30,827
Speaker 2: of the Forest Focus Pod, Matt Davies joins us met.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk a bit about Chris Wood, but

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Speaker 2: let's start with the game seven nil. Where does it

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Speaker 2: rank among them many dozens, maybe even hundreds of Nottingham

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Speaker 2: Forest games. You've watched oh.

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Speaker 24: Man, Well, I think I said on the podcast, it's

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Speaker 24: one of those kind of generational games that people talk

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Speaker 24: about in twenty years and thirty years. I remember we

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Speaker 24: had a seven to one win at Sheffield Wednesday, which

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Speaker 24: every time the anniversary comes around you see all the goals,

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Speaker 24: and we had a seven to three win at Leads.

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Speaker 24: So they're the big ones in terms of score margins.

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Speaker 24: Obviously there's games against rivals where you have late, last

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Speaker 24: minute winners and stuff, but to win a game like

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Speaker 24: that in the Premier League is a team that finished

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Speaker 24: sixteenth and seventeenth in consecutive seasons and to be where

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Speaker 24: we are now, it's it's kind of you always wonder

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Speaker 24: what the tip of the you know, the icing on

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Speaker 24: the cake is, but the cake kind of keeps getting

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Speaker 24: bigger and you wonder when the icing is going to

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Speaker 24: go on the way we're playing, it's such a roller coaster.

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Speaker 24: To throw a load of metaphors in there, certainly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the metaphors.

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Speaker 12: It was.

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Speaker 2: I mean it came off the back two of an

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Speaker 2: outlier as far as the season was concerned, with the

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Speaker 2: five no loss away at Bournemouth last time out, So

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Speaker 2: I mean talk about talk about a bounce back statement performance.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this coming?

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Speaker 24: No, not really.

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Speaker 2: I'm honest.

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Speaker 24: I thought we might win. We've we've done well against Brighton.

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Speaker 24: I'm not even sure we might have lost once to

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Speaker 24: them since promotion, and I think, you know, their their

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Speaker 24: tactics match up well with our tactics from our point

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Speaker 24: of view. They struggled against defensive minded teams like Everton

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Speaker 24: they lost too, and they only had one midfielder on

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Speaker 24: the pitch, which seems kind of crazy. So it was

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Speaker 24: one of those days where kind of everything played into

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Speaker 24: our hands. But to be so clinical and to play

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Speaker 24: so well, I know, we'll talk about Chris Wood and

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Speaker 24: he was great, but there was probably you know, four

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Speaker 24: or five players we could easily have won man in

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Speaker 24: the match ahead of Chris Wood. And it's one of

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Speaker 24: those special days where it all clicked.

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Speaker 12: It was just the pole.

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Speaker 24: Opposite at Bournemouth where everything that could have gone wrong

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Speaker 24: went wrong, and this was kind of just the total opposite.

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Speaker 2: It's not even a surprise anymore. Over here in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: met to wake up on Sunday mornings and find that

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Speaker 2: Chris Wood has scored another goal or goals how key

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Speaker 2: has he been to Forest's success this season?

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Speaker 24: Oh, totally central, totally central to it. I mean we

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Speaker 24: had Tyler one year was our main striker for as

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Speaker 24: kind of a season and a half and he did

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Speaker 24: really well for us. Then he has some injury problems

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Speaker 24: and Chris Wood steps to the four. He'd done well

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Speaker 24: at Burnley and he was a kind of a backup

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Speaker 24: striker at Newcastle and when he came I think a

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Speaker 24: few people doubted if his best years were behind him.

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Speaker 24: But he's been unbelievable. The whole attacks kind of geared

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Speaker 24: for Chris Wood to score the goals. So if Forrest

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Speaker 24: score a goal, you know there's a big chance Chris

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Speaker 24: Woods either scored it or set it up. But I

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Speaker 24: think that's his second hat trick for US and seventeen

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Speaker 24: goals in twenty three games. He's pushing for the Premier

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Speaker 24: League Golden Boost at the age of thirty three, and

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Speaker 24: he feels like he's sort of he's peaking in a way,

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Speaker 24: even though he's probably in the latter stage of his career.

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Speaker 24: But the football he's playing and the goals he's scoring

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Speaker 24: are just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: He's freely admitted Chris Wood. He won't beat three defenders

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Speaker 2: and put it in the top corner from twenty five yards,

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Speaker 2: but when the chances come, he will take them. So

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Speaker 2: tell us about the service Chris Wood is getting from

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Speaker 2: his teammates.

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Speaker 24: I might back him to beat three defense.

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Speaker 2: Score he's playing.

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Speaker 21: He's scored some good goals.

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Speaker 24: No, he's like, he's not the quickest, but his movement

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Speaker 24: and he's in you know, his football intelligence is right

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Speaker 24: up there with anyone in the league. So if you

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Speaker 24: give him the service, he'll find the right positions. And

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Speaker 24: we've got a winger in ANTHONYA. Langa who's come in

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Speaker 24: a form at the perfect time. He had three assists

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Speaker 24: today and the quality of the balls he put in

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Speaker 24: for Chris Wood were great. But you see the way

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Speaker 24: Chris Wood peels off a defender and finds that pocket

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Speaker 24: of space in the congested area around the six yard box.

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Speaker 24: So you've got to be a special talent in Chris

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Speaker 24: Wood to get into those areas. But we've got a

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Speaker 24: couple of wingers, Calum Hudson and always injured, but ANTHONYA.

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Speaker 12: Langer's won.

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Speaker 24: Hudson and Doys the other and Morgan Gibbs White who's

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Speaker 24: now in the England team has a real creative force

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Speaker 24: in our side, so there's a lot of talent in

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Speaker 24: the team, but Chris Wood's the one who's kind of

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Speaker 24: the spear at the tip that puts the goals away,

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Speaker 24: So you know, so much revolves around what he brings

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Speaker 24: the team.

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Speaker 2: What else, though, man apart from Chris Wood and his

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Speaker 2: goal scoring, what else has led to this remarkable season

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Speaker 2: Forest to Heaven.

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Speaker 24: It's probably a few things. I mean, Nuno came in

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Speaker 24: halfway through last season and he made quite a few

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Speaker 24: positive changes that perhaps weren't born out in the results.

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Speaker 24: We were terrible at defending set pieces and they addressed

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Speaker 24: that in the summer with the signing of Nikola Milenkovitch.

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Speaker 24: He's been brilliant at central defense and you know, had

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Speaker 24: that whole preseason which managers don't always get, and he

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Speaker 24: you know, tactically they look more tuned into what he

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Speaker 24: wants to do. So those are probably a couple of things.

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Speaker 24: But things just snowballed in the right right direction. We

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Speaker 24: started the season well and one at Liverpool, drew at

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Speaker 24: Chelsea and it's probably probably everything just comes together at

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Speaker 24: the right time and you get a lot of momentum.

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Speaker 24: But there's a lot of quality in the squad and

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Speaker 24: there's a lot of good characters and Chris Wood's probably

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Speaker 24: at the forefront of that in terms of leading a

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Speaker 24: dressing room. You know, Woods very experienced, Milenkovitch who I mentioned,

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Speaker 24: Ryan Yates who's the local boy in club captain, And

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Speaker 24: it seems like a real harmonious group. There's no idiots

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Speaker 24: in there, which you can often get in any sporting

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Speaker 24: dressing room. And yeah, they've created a really no talks

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Speaker 24: a lot about culture and they created a really good

983
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Speaker 24: culture to go equality and it all see, it all

984
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Speaker 24: seems to work. Everyone knows their role in the team

985
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Speaker 24: and it's a different way of playing. It can be

986
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Speaker 24: looked quite defensive, but we score some thrilling goals, as

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Speaker 24: people might see today if they watch the goals back

988
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Speaker 24: when they wake up. So yeah, everything's pointing in the

989
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Speaker 24: right direction. It's a crazy time to be a Forest fan.

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Speaker 2: And David is so third season Beck in the Premier

991
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Speaker 2: League after a long time out seventeenth last season, of

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Speaker 2: course there was the four point deduction in that equation,

993
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Speaker 2: but stayed outside of relegation sixteenth season before what are

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Speaker 2: your realistic expectations now man of where Forest might finish.

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Speaker 2: Are you We're talking about a Champions League qualification here,

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Speaker 2: aren't we?

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Speaker 12: I think so.

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Speaker 24: I mean, people who listen to our podcast know I'm

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Speaker 24: quite a bit of a realist, I suppose not the most.

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Speaker 24: I'm not always the guy that says, you know, we're

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Speaker 24: going to get promoted or we're going to win the

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Speaker 24: league and.

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Speaker 12: All that stuff.

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Speaker 24: But we've got a bit of a head start, you know,

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Speaker 24: on the teams below us in like man City and

1006
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Speaker 24: Newcastle and Chelsea, and they're playing each other. You know,

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Speaker 24: Newcastle lost today, Bornemouth lost today. City are playing Arsenal tomorrow,

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Speaker 24: as I say in the UK, so yeah, and the

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Speaker 24: other team is going to play for the next week.

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Speaker 24: And I think Newcastle have got Manchester City. So we've

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Speaker 24: got some really tough games coming up against City, Arsenal

1012
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Speaker 24: and Newcastle. And if we keep our head above water

1013
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Speaker 24: and we're still in the top five, because five teams

1014
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Speaker 24: should get in the Champions League next season. If we're

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Speaker 24: still in the top five going into what would I

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Speaker 24: think be the twenty ninth game of the season, I

1017
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Speaker 24: would massively back us to get in the Champions League.

1018
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Speaker 24: But even if we don't, I think we'll get European

1019
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Speaker 24: football next season, which would just be an unbelievable achievement

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Speaker 24: for you as your reference. There the sixteenth and seventeenth

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Speaker 24: place finishes and European Football opens a lot of doors

1022
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Speaker 24: to the football club as well in terms of signings

1023
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Speaker 24: and TV money and all that kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 24: nothing but excitement ahead.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff, Great time to be a Forest fan. There

1026
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Speaker 2: are many daughter around New Zealand. They're probably more and

1027
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Speaker 2: more every week, and Chris would obviously our all white

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Speaker 2: talisman and yours as well. Matt, thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us across New Zealand, and long may this.

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Speaker 21: Continue, hopefully hopefully saying.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully so indeed ever the realist mass good on you, mate,

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Speaker 2: Matt Davies. He's the host of the Forest Focus pod.

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Speaker 2: You can check it out if you're a Forest fan,

1034
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Speaker 2: even if you're a well a new bandwagon jumper. Nothing

1035
00:52:23,147 --> 00:52:25,027
Speaker 2: wrong with jumping on a bandwagon when a team is

1036
00:52:25,067 --> 00:52:29,267
Speaker 2: doing what Nottingham Forest are doing right now. Do you

1037
00:52:29,827 --> 00:52:34,347
Speaker 2: think we hear in New Zealand fully realize the enormity

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Speaker 2: of what Chris Wood is doing right now? He is

1039
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Speaker 2: operating in Rarefied Air. The Premier League widely regarded as

1040
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Speaker 2: the toughest football competition in the world, and he is

1041
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Speaker 2: leading the line for the team that is currently third

1042
00:52:51,067 --> 00:52:55,907
Speaker 2: in the Premier League. He has seventeen goals this season.

1043
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Speaker 2: The only guys who have scored more than that are

1044
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Speaker 2: megastars Mohammad Salah of Liverpool and Earling Harland of Manchester City.

1045
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Speaker 2: They're the only guy with more Premier League goals this

1046
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Speaker 2: season than Chris Wood. He has eighty six all up

1047
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Speaker 2: across his career. That now has him inside the top

1048
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Speaker 2: fifty goal scorers in Premier League history. The Premier League

1049
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Speaker 2: was formed in nineteen ninety two. He is inside the

1050
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Speaker 2: top fifty goal scorers in the history of the competition.

1051
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Speaker 2: We are talking esteemed company here. More goals than Eden Hazard,

1052
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Speaker 2: Carlos Tevez, Fernando Torres. He's only one behind Dennis berg

1053
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Speaker 2: Camp and he's closing in on the leading Australasian on

1054
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Speaker 2: that list, Australian Mark Vaduka, who scored ninety two. Is

1055
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Speaker 2: it time, excuse me we gave true recognition to Chris

1056
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Speaker 2: Wood in whatever form that might be. I don't know

1057
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Speaker 2: what that is. He's a finalist for Sportsmen of the

1058
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Speaker 2: Year at the Hullbergs, But I'm almost certain he's not

1059
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Speaker 2: going to win it. I think it will go to

1060
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Speaker 2: one of our Olympic gold medalists, Samush Kerr or Fin

1061
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Speaker 2: Butcher maybe, And I've got no problem with that. In fact,

1062
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Speaker 2: I think that's the right decision. But I think we

1063
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Speaker 2: do need to find a way of recognizing and acknowledging

1064
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Speaker 2: our sports people who are doing their thing overseas, Chris Wood,

1065
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Speaker 2: Steven Adams, Lydia Coe, Liam Lawson. Hopefully. I eight hundred

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. Where does what Chris Wood is doing

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Speaker 2: right now rate for you? Maybe put it into context

1068
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Speaker 2: for some of our listeners who who can't get a

1069
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Speaker 2: grasp on just how significant this is. I've given it

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Speaker 2: a go. You might want to as well. I eight

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Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty. And are there any Forest

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Speaker 2: fans tuned in Nottingham Forest fans? We'd love to hear

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Speaker 2: from you what a season you're having. Seventeenth last season.

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00:54:50,747 --> 00:54:53,267
Speaker 2: There are twenty teams in the Premier League eighteen nineteen

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00:54:53,307 --> 00:54:58,587
Speaker 2: and twenty get relegated. Seventeenth last season, just one place

1076
00:54:58,587 --> 00:55:03,067
Speaker 2: above the relegation zone. Sixteenth the season before that. At

1077
00:55:03,107 --> 00:55:06,307
Speaker 2: the start of this season, I'm sure something similar would

1078
00:55:06,467 --> 00:55:10,307
Speaker 2: probably have been the goal, just stay up, just don't

1079
00:55:10,347 --> 00:55:17,067
Speaker 2: get relegated. Instead third third on the same number of

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00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:20,467
Speaker 2: points as Arsenal, who was second, six points ahead of

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00:55:20,507 --> 00:55:24,547
Speaker 2: the chasing pack teams like Manchester City and Chelsea, eighteen

1082
00:55:24,667 --> 00:55:29,427
Speaker 2: points ahead of Manchester United, twenty three points ahead of Tottenham,

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00:55:30,307 --> 00:55:34,747
Speaker 2: thirty points clear of the relegation zone. They only got

1084
00:55:34,827 --> 00:55:38,067
Speaker 2: thirty two points in total last season. What a time

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00:55:38,747 --> 00:55:40,747
Speaker 2: to be a Nottingham Forest fan. So keen to hear

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00:55:40,787 --> 00:55:43,627
Speaker 2: from you. I know you're out there, Forest fans. This

1087
00:55:43,747 --> 00:55:45,947
Speaker 2: is your time in the sun. Are eight hundred and

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00:55:45,987 --> 00:55:49,187
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is our number? Nine two nine two

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Speaker 2: for your text messages one twenty one back with your

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Speaker 2: cause after this On News Talks EB.

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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport, It's

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00:55:57,667 --> 00:56:01,547
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vane and GJ. Gunner Homes New

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00:56:01,627 --> 00:56:03,707
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder, News.

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00:56:03,587 --> 00:56:06,987
Speaker 2: TALKSB one twenty four on News Talks AIRB talking Chris

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00:56:07,067 --> 00:56:12,227
Speaker 2: Wood talking Nottingham Forest and this incredible run that they're on. Decimmer.

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00:56:12,387 --> 00:56:15,027
Speaker 2: You were born in Nottinghamshire, Is that right?

1097
00:56:15,787 --> 00:56:16,427
Speaker 10: Yes, I was.

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00:56:16,627 --> 00:56:19,507
Speaker 25: I was born in kirkbyn Ashfield, which is a small

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00:56:19,587 --> 00:56:24,907
Speaker 25: town near Mansfield in Nottingham Nottinghamshire, sort of on the

1100
00:56:24,987 --> 00:56:30,267
Speaker 25: edge of Sherwood Forest and not Forrest were our local club.

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00:56:31,147 --> 00:56:35,347
Speaker 25: Now I was. I was not going to soccer matches.

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00:56:36,667 --> 00:56:39,387
Speaker 25: My father used to do the little woods pools and

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00:56:39,707 --> 00:56:41,267
Speaker 25: he was very interested.

1104
00:56:40,907 --> 00:56:41,707
Speaker 9: In not Forest.

1105
00:56:42,267 --> 00:56:44,347
Speaker 25: But I have to say at the time that the

1106
00:56:44,547 --> 00:56:48,907
Speaker 25: Nottingham Forest then was a little bit of a nonentity.

1107
00:56:49,747 --> 00:56:54,227
Speaker 25: It was just your average club. And I'm just thrilled

1108
00:56:54,347 --> 00:56:57,267
Speaker 25: to hear what Chris Wood is doing for that team now.

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00:56:57,827 --> 00:56:58,747
Speaker 16: It's just amazing.

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00:56:59,667 --> 00:57:02,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool, isn't it. That week back, you know,

1111
00:57:02,827 --> 00:57:05,747
Speaker 2: twelve thousand miles away, we've got this connection with a

1112
00:57:05,787 --> 00:57:08,747
Speaker 2: team that's really punching above its weight. So what sort

1113
00:57:08,787 --> 00:57:10,907
Speaker 2: of what sort of time are we talking about here

1114
00:57:11,347 --> 00:57:12,587
Speaker 2: this summer when you say they were a bit of

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00:57:12,627 --> 00:57:14,747
Speaker 2: a non entity? Are we talking fifties sixties?

1116
00:57:16,027 --> 00:57:16,227
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1117
00:57:16,347 --> 00:57:20,107
Speaker 25: Probably the fifties sixties because I left the UK in

1118
00:57:20,267 --> 00:57:24,707
Speaker 25: nineteen eighty one. That I moved away from Nottingham sure

1119
00:57:25,267 --> 00:57:29,267
Speaker 25: in the seventies, late seventies, so I sort of lost

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00:57:29,307 --> 00:57:31,747
Speaker 25: a little bit of touch, but I don't want to

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00:57:31,787 --> 00:57:34,747
Speaker 25: be unkind when I say a nonentity. It was just

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00:57:34,867 --> 00:57:40,107
Speaker 25: a local team, a local club, and I don't think

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Speaker 25: they were doing that well at the time. This is

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00:57:43,507 --> 00:57:47,227
Speaker 25: just the most incredible turnaround. And Chris what't mean, he's

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Speaker 25: just amazing.

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Speaker 2: He really is decima. Thank you for calling it's yeah,

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00:57:52,027 --> 00:57:53,987
Speaker 2: you're right. They kind of in the fifties and sixties

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Speaker 2: we were there or thereabouts without ever really doing anything amazing.

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00:57:58,587 --> 00:58:02,307
Speaker 2: It was in the seventies really when Brian Clough took

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00:58:02,347 --> 00:58:05,107
Speaker 2: over as their boss and they won the European Cup

1131
00:58:05,227 --> 00:58:09,747
Speaker 2: twice and they became this They became this team, you know,

1132
00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:12,147
Speaker 2: they became this incredible team. They won the league I

1133
00:58:12,187 --> 00:58:15,907
Speaker 2: think in seventy seven, seventy eight, and just you know,

1134
00:58:15,987 --> 00:58:19,707
Speaker 2: from there established a big fan base. But it's been

1135
00:58:19,827 --> 00:58:22,587
Speaker 2: lean pickings lately. They only got back into the Premier

1136
00:58:22,667 --> 00:58:25,387
Speaker 2: League a couple of seasons ago, having been in the

1137
00:58:25,467 --> 00:58:28,867
Speaker 2: Championship and even dropping down to League One, so the

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00:58:28,987 --> 00:58:32,347
Speaker 2: third tier for a while. Michelle, you're a Forest fan,

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00:58:32,427 --> 00:58:33,067
Speaker 2: you'll be loving this.

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00:58:34,907 --> 00:58:38,067
Speaker 9: Yes, I am a Forest fan, but I'm a Forest

1141
00:58:38,107 --> 00:58:41,587
Speaker 9: fan by default. My husband has supported them all his

1142
00:58:41,787 --> 00:58:45,587
Speaker 9: life and so I've just started watching them as well.

1143
00:58:47,547 --> 00:58:50,467
Speaker 2: He sounds like a long suffering Forest fan. How did

1144
00:58:50,547 --> 00:58:51,627
Speaker 2: his fandom come about?

1145
00:58:53,067 --> 00:58:56,667
Speaker 9: Oh, I can't really remember. I think he went to

1146
00:58:56,787 --> 00:59:00,187
Speaker 9: live in the UK probably twenty years ago and he

1147
00:59:01,027 --> 00:59:02,707
Speaker 9: I think he just started going to their games. And

1148
00:59:03,067 --> 00:59:05,347
Speaker 9: I think he actually lived in Nottingham while he was

1149
00:59:05,427 --> 00:59:08,507
Speaker 9: over there and just became a fan, you know, like

1150
00:59:08,627 --> 00:59:10,587
Speaker 9: he's so much of a fan. He gets up at

1151
00:59:11,347 --> 00:59:13,627
Speaker 9: us one this morning, he got up to watch their game.

1152
00:59:13,707 --> 00:59:16,187
Speaker 9: He gets up every single game he gets up to watch.

1153
00:59:16,507 --> 00:59:19,187
Speaker 9: I don't I just quickly kick on the internet.

1154
00:59:18,907 --> 00:59:19,347
Speaker 8: In the morning.

1155
00:59:20,707 --> 00:59:23,027
Speaker 2: Oh that's he must be loving it. He must be

1156
00:59:23,187 --> 00:59:24,227
Speaker 2: absolutely loving it.

1157
00:59:25,507 --> 00:59:27,507
Speaker 9: Oh he is, and you know, like he's been giving

1158
00:59:27,547 --> 00:59:29,307
Speaker 9: a lot of grief for it as time for being

1159
00:59:29,347 --> 00:59:31,467
Speaker 9: a Forest fan. But look at them now and he's

1160
00:59:31,547 --> 00:59:34,027
Speaker 9: just stuck by them. Actually, we went to the UK

1161
00:59:34,147 --> 00:59:36,387
Speaker 9: a couple of years ago and that's why we went

1162
00:59:36,547 --> 00:59:38,627
Speaker 9: was to watch Forest because they made it into the

1163
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Speaker 9: Premier League.

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00:59:40,427 --> 00:59:43,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, so you went. You went to the

1165
00:59:43,267 --> 00:59:44,427
Speaker 2: City Ground and watch them play.

1166
00:59:45,787 --> 00:59:47,587
Speaker 9: Yes, we went to two games at the City Ground

1167
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Speaker 9: and then we went to Liverpool and watch them at

1168
00:59:50,267 --> 00:59:51,067
Speaker 9: Liverpool as.

1169
00:59:50,947 --> 00:59:52,787
Speaker 2: Well, how good? How good?

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00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:52,947
Speaker 17: Well?

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Speaker 2: I often say Michelle that, you know, especially because a

1172
00:59:56,387 --> 00:59:58,187
Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, they support the glamorous clubs

1173
00:59:58,187 --> 01:00:00,267
Speaker 2: who went all the time, you know. But but when

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01:00:00,307 --> 01:00:03,227
Speaker 2: a team like Nottingham Forest and you've got to you

1175
01:00:03,307 --> 01:00:05,387
Speaker 2: support them through thick and thin, and often say, there's

1176
01:00:05,387 --> 01:00:07,107
Speaker 2: a heck of a lot of thin. So when the

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01:00:07,187 --> 01:00:10,067
Speaker 2: thick comes along, that good stuff comes along, you've got

1178
01:00:10,187 --> 01:00:11,867
Speaker 2: to revel on it. You have to revel in it.

1179
01:00:11,907 --> 01:00:13,347
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad you and your husband are.

1180
01:00:14,707 --> 01:00:17,027
Speaker 9: Oh well, you do you know, like when I started

1181
01:00:17,027 --> 01:00:19,267
Speaker 9: watching them probably three or four years ago, just before

1182
01:00:19,347 --> 01:00:22,427
Speaker 9: they went to the Premier League, they used to frustrate

1183
01:00:22,547 --> 01:00:24,827
Speaker 9: me because they could not hold the ball and string

1184
01:00:24,947 --> 01:00:28,267
Speaker 9: passes together. But they've stuck together as a team and

1185
01:00:28,427 --> 01:00:31,387
Speaker 9: now they're doing amazing. You know, they're just doing.

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01:00:31,307 --> 01:00:32,067
Speaker 26: Really really well.

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Speaker 2: Love it, Michelle, I can hear watch a replace.

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01:00:34,947 --> 01:00:35,147
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:00:36,227 --> 01:00:37,747
Speaker 2: Look, it doesn't matter if you don't get up at

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01:00:37,747 --> 01:00:39,467
Speaker 2: one thirty in the morning, you know. But there's the

1191
01:00:39,507 --> 01:00:41,667
Speaker 2: problem then, is getting back to sleep after you've watched

1192
01:00:41,667 --> 01:00:45,547
Speaker 2: your team put seven past somebody. Yeah, that's the difficulty. Hey, Michelle,

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01:00:45,587 --> 01:00:47,387
Speaker 2: thank you for calling. I really appreciate it, and long

1194
01:00:47,467 --> 01:00:50,627
Speaker 2: may this continue. Long may this continue for you and

1195
01:00:50,907 --> 01:00:53,347
Speaker 2: for your husband, and for all the other forest fans

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01:00:53,347 --> 01:00:56,267
Speaker 2: who are listening in, including you. Andrew fifty years of

1197
01:00:56,387 --> 01:00:58,067
Speaker 2: support of Nottingham Forest.

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01:00:58,787 --> 01:01:02,067
Speaker 27: Year back in seventy five. Actually born not about twenty

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Speaker 27: k's from Nottingham Shift in New Zealand when I was

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01:01:04,507 --> 01:01:07,947
Speaker 27: sort of six months old, and my uncle actually had

1201
01:01:07,987 --> 01:01:13,387
Speaker 27: a season ticket, so I went a number of times

1202
01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:16,547
Speaker 27: in my early years when it went over to the UK.

1203
01:01:16,827 --> 01:01:20,547
Speaker 27: So I was very lucky that I came on board

1204
01:01:20,627 --> 01:01:22,947
Speaker 27: just as the glory years and Forrest had been a

1205
01:01:23,027 --> 01:01:25,307
Speaker 27: team which I have perform miracles over the years, because

1206
01:01:25,467 --> 01:01:28,707
Speaker 27: they actually won the league a year after getting promoted,

1207
01:01:29,187 --> 01:01:33,507
Speaker 27: which you know, no team never has ever done apart

1208
01:01:33,547 --> 01:01:33,907
Speaker 27: from them.

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01:01:34,267 --> 01:01:36,747
Speaker 2: That was year seventy seven to seventy eight, because they

1210
01:01:36,827 --> 01:01:38,547
Speaker 2: came up from what that was when it was called

1211
01:01:38,547 --> 01:01:40,227
Speaker 2: Division one before the Premier League.

1212
01:01:40,227 --> 01:01:40,507
Speaker 27: That's right.

1213
01:01:40,587 --> 01:01:43,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, they finished third in the in Division two, got

1214
01:01:43,427 --> 01:01:45,547
Speaker 2: promoted and that's right, they won it the next year.

1215
01:01:46,387 --> 01:01:48,547
Speaker 27: Yeah, they got They got promoted on the last day

1216
01:01:48,547 --> 01:01:52,467
Speaker 27: of the season only from another team losing. Actually it's

1217
01:01:52,507 --> 01:01:55,547
Speaker 27: great thing. And then of course qualified for the European

1218
01:01:55,627 --> 01:01:58,827
Speaker 27: Cup and drew Liverpool in the first round at two

1219
01:01:58,907 --> 01:02:01,187
Speaker 27: time defending champions and knocked them out and then went

1220
01:02:01,227 --> 01:02:03,307
Speaker 27: on to win it to two years.

1221
01:02:03,187 --> 01:02:03,507
Speaker 6: In a row.

1222
01:02:03,627 --> 01:02:05,707
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that as a Liverpool fan and

1223
01:02:05,827 --> 01:02:07,227
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mean, I'm glad you mentioned that.

1224
01:02:07,427 --> 01:02:09,627
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, stop stop.

1225
01:02:09,467 --> 01:02:10,867
Speaker 27: You a hat trick of European.

1226
01:02:12,187 --> 01:02:12,307
Speaker 21: Right.

1227
01:02:12,707 --> 01:02:16,627
Speaker 27: So yeah, and so that this year it's just been remarkable.

1228
01:02:16,987 --> 01:02:21,547
Speaker 27: But I mean great management, great recruitment basically in the

1229
01:02:21,667 --> 01:02:24,427
Speaker 27: last sort of nine months has made a difference. And

1230
01:02:24,667 --> 01:02:28,067
Speaker 27: you know, Chris Wood has always been a good, good finisher,

1231
01:02:28,187 --> 01:02:31,947
Speaker 27: but his stats this year for chance has taken it

1232
01:02:32,067 --> 01:02:36,067
Speaker 27: are incredible, you know, is better than anyone is one

1233
01:02:36,107 --> 01:02:39,907
Speaker 27: guy Bringford's who's up there, but he's the number one

1234
01:02:39,947 --> 01:02:42,947
Speaker 27: finisher in that league, which is incredible for New Zealander

1235
01:02:43,467 --> 01:02:47,107
Speaker 27: to do what he's done. Nothing spectacular in the main,

1236
01:02:47,587 --> 01:02:49,947
Speaker 27: but he gets himself in the right positions and he's

1237
01:02:49,947 --> 01:02:50,547
Speaker 27: got the service.

1238
01:02:50,707 --> 01:02:53,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all conful one, they all count one.

1239
01:02:54,387 --> 01:02:58,507
Speaker 27: Absolutely intelligent, really intelligent footballer you know, really appreciate. And

1240
01:02:58,827 --> 01:03:00,507
Speaker 27: the funny thing was when he first went the Forest,

1241
01:03:00,547 --> 01:03:05,147
Speaker 27: the Forest fans hate him and and didn't rate him

1242
01:03:05,147 --> 01:03:08,507
Speaker 27: at all and he turned around completely now and you know,

1243
01:03:09,107 --> 01:03:10,627
Speaker 27: just amazing performance.

1244
01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:10,947
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1245
01:03:10,947 --> 01:03:12,747
Speaker 2: I loved and adored there. Good on Andrew. Good to

1246
01:03:12,827 --> 01:03:15,067
Speaker 2: chat to you mate. I'm I'm like, I'm certain you're

1247
01:03:15,147 --> 01:03:17,867
Speaker 2: enjoying this. Like I say, this is I love it

1248
01:03:17,907 --> 01:03:19,427
Speaker 2: when this sort of thing happens. It's like when Lester

1249
01:03:19,507 --> 01:03:21,947
Speaker 2: won the Premier League. You know, fans of Leicester had

1250
01:03:21,947 --> 01:03:26,107
Speaker 2: watched that team forever and never with any real expectation

1251
01:03:26,227 --> 01:03:29,027
Speaker 2: that they would win the league. I think what most

1252
01:03:29,267 --> 01:03:33,027
Speaker 2: outside of the big, big clubs you know who who now,

1253
01:03:33,227 --> 01:03:36,227
Speaker 2: let's face it, are the most are the richest clubs

1254
01:03:36,827 --> 01:03:40,147
Speaker 2: outside of them. I think what most football fans want is,

1255
01:03:41,467 --> 01:03:44,627
Speaker 2: you know, a reasonable season, maybe a run in the cups,

1256
01:03:45,307 --> 01:03:47,907
Speaker 2: but I never expect to win the thing. And look,

1257
01:03:47,987 --> 01:03:52,187
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest still probably won't win the Premier League. But

1258
01:03:53,187 --> 01:03:56,627
Speaker 2: the fact that their fans have the opportunity to dream

1259
01:03:57,827 --> 01:04:01,587
Speaker 2: and to and to luxuriate in the success and to

1260
01:04:01,627 --> 01:04:05,387
Speaker 2: look at the league table and also to strutt into

1261
01:04:05,507 --> 01:04:08,307
Speaker 2: work it's the best. But I reckon, if you're a

1262
01:04:08,347 --> 01:04:10,467
Speaker 2: fan of a team that's been not that great for

1263
01:04:10,587 --> 01:04:12,707
Speaker 2: a long time, and it's almost become a bit of

1264
01:04:12,747 --> 01:04:15,387
Speaker 2: a Millstone around your neck you walking to work and

1265
01:04:15,427 --> 01:04:19,627
Speaker 2: they say, areas he's been the Forest fan. How'd your

1266
01:04:19,667 --> 01:04:20,707
Speaker 2: team go on the weekend?

1267
01:04:20,827 --> 01:04:20,987
Speaker 12: Ben?

1268
01:04:21,307 --> 01:04:23,347
Speaker 2: You'll have your chest stuck out at work now Ben,

1269
01:04:23,387 --> 01:04:25,627
Speaker 2: there has a been online a Forest fan. How are

1270
01:04:25,667 --> 01:04:26,027
Speaker 2: you mate?

1271
01:04:27,627 --> 01:04:27,787
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1272
01:04:27,867 --> 01:04:31,747
Speaker 26: Good Parney, nice to talk to you and you and

1273
01:04:33,347 --> 01:04:35,147
Speaker 26: I sort of claimed the same as when Fre's got

1274
01:04:35,227 --> 01:04:38,427
Speaker 26: promoted through the playoffs a couple of years ago, when

1275
01:04:38,467 --> 01:04:40,307
Speaker 26: they sort of were the semi finalized, under a bit

1276
01:04:40,307 --> 01:04:42,667
Speaker 26: of pressure from my mates to get back over and

1277
01:04:42,707 --> 01:04:45,187
Speaker 26: see them at Wembley. So I spent a weekend in

1278
01:04:45,267 --> 01:04:48,507
Speaker 26: London watching him over there, and probably the best weekend of.

1279
01:04:48,467 --> 01:04:51,907
Speaker 2: My life, I'd have to say, wonderful. Yeah, because they've

1280
01:04:51,907 --> 01:04:53,587
Speaker 2: been out of the Premier League for a long time

1281
01:04:53,627 --> 01:04:55,347
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to remember they well they even dropped

1282
01:04:55,387 --> 01:04:58,787
Speaker 2: down to sort of to League One, didn't they. They

1283
01:04:58,827 --> 01:05:01,227
Speaker 2: were Premier League sort of back into the nineties from

1284
01:05:01,227 --> 01:05:02,467
Speaker 2: memory a long time away.

1285
01:05:04,547 --> 01:05:06,907
Speaker 26: When I sort of first started supporting them, Cloth was

1286
01:05:07,067 --> 01:05:09,147
Speaker 26: the manager and we had a bit of success and

1287
01:05:09,227 --> 01:05:12,027
Speaker 26: then sort of went twenty years without without anything really,

1288
01:05:12,147 --> 01:05:14,867
Speaker 26: So going to Wembley after twenty years, I thought they

1289
01:05:14,907 --> 01:05:17,187
Speaker 26: might not be around the next time they get there,

1290
01:05:17,227 --> 01:05:19,627
Speaker 26: so I'd better get on a plane and make sure

1291
01:05:19,627 --> 01:05:20,147
Speaker 26: I enjoy it.

1292
01:05:20,547 --> 01:05:23,427
Speaker 2: So you saw them win the playoff final at Wembley.

1293
01:05:24,307 --> 01:05:24,907
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right.

1294
01:05:25,147 --> 01:05:28,067
Speaker 26: I flew it on the Friday lunch time, caught up

1295
01:05:28,067 --> 01:05:30,187
Speaker 26: with some family on the Saturday game on the Sunday,

1296
01:05:30,227 --> 01:05:31,147
Speaker 26: and flew out Tuesday.

1297
01:05:31,427 --> 01:05:31,667
Speaker 12: Wow.

1298
01:05:32,547 --> 01:05:34,387
Speaker 2: What I mean, what was it like when they went

1299
01:05:34,707 --> 01:05:37,907
Speaker 2: when that whistle went, and they in their promotion was

1300
01:05:38,347 --> 01:05:40,147
Speaker 2: how many how many Forest fans were there?

1301
01:05:41,867 --> 01:05:42,027
Speaker 12: Well?

1302
01:05:42,107 --> 01:05:45,467
Speaker 26: Well, I think Wembley hole's about ninety thousand, and Forests

1303
01:05:45,507 --> 01:05:47,627
Speaker 26: sold out, you know, and then about a day that

1304
01:05:47,747 --> 01:05:49,907
Speaker 26: they've got a huge fan base because of the historical

1305
01:05:50,427 --> 01:05:52,947
Speaker 26: support I guess they've had. Nottingham is a huge football

1306
01:05:53,147 --> 01:05:57,027
Speaker 26: and sporting town, I guess, And they sold out tickets immediately,

1307
01:05:57,107 --> 01:05:59,347
Speaker 26: and so there's at least fifty thousand Forest fans. Then

1308
01:05:59,427 --> 01:06:01,027
Speaker 26: it can probably sold another fifty to be.

1309
01:06:01,067 --> 01:06:05,547
Speaker 2: Honest, And so like I said that just before, you know,

1310
01:06:06,867 --> 01:06:09,427
Speaker 2: having finished just above the relegation zone last season, then

1311
01:06:09,467 --> 01:06:11,427
Speaker 2: you had the four point deduction for you know, whatever

1312
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:12,747
Speaker 2: reason that is won't go into that, and the inn

1313
01:06:12,747 --> 01:06:15,467
Speaker 2: the previous year sort of sixteenth or whatever it was,

1314
01:06:15,547 --> 01:06:19,587
Speaker 2: did you have reasonably modest expectations at the start of

1315
01:06:19,667 --> 01:06:20,107
Speaker 2: the season.

1316
01:06:21,507 --> 01:06:23,667
Speaker 26: Oh Mat, Look, I've pinched for myself every weekend when

1317
01:06:23,667 --> 01:06:25,307
Speaker 26: I wake up and see the scores at the moment,

1318
01:06:28,747 --> 01:06:30,707
Speaker 26: I'm a bit like I'm a bit like your podcaster.

1319
01:06:30,907 --> 01:06:32,827
Speaker 26: I'm a bit of a realist when it comes to

1320
01:06:32,867 --> 01:06:35,587
Speaker 26: the forest, having had twenty years of disappointment, and I

1321
01:06:35,707 --> 01:06:38,027
Speaker 26: just keep expecting the bubble to burst and the five

1322
01:06:38,067 --> 01:06:40,187
Speaker 26: Mils are bornemous. The other week I thought, oh geez,

1323
01:06:40,227 --> 01:06:42,547
Speaker 26: maybe the bubble has burst now and will sort of

1324
01:06:42,587 --> 01:06:44,947
Speaker 26: falter away. But they just looked so solid in defense.

1325
01:06:45,027 --> 01:06:47,147
Speaker 26: And you know what are you popping up with gold

1326
01:06:47,267 --> 01:06:49,587
Speaker 26: and Morgan, Gibbs White who and Ali Anderson?

1327
01:06:49,627 --> 01:06:51,867
Speaker 12: That could be the England midfield for the next fifteen years.

1328
01:06:52,107 --> 01:06:55,787
Speaker 2: Their quality, brilliant stuff. Ben, Thanks for calling in mate.

1329
01:06:55,947 --> 01:06:57,547
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you got the chance to go over there.

1330
01:06:58,027 --> 01:06:59,787
Speaker 2: It is something that will love you with your favorite

1331
01:06:59,827 --> 01:07:02,027
Speaker 2: game on Sunday and home Tuesday. Man, it's a tough

1332
01:07:02,347 --> 01:07:05,387
Speaker 2: it's a tough trip home, mate, it's a tough trip home.

1333
01:07:05,427 --> 01:07:08,067
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling, Derek. What are your thoughts on Forrest

1334
01:07:08,147 --> 01:07:09,147
Speaker 2: and why they're doing so well?

1335
01:07:10,147 --> 01:07:10,347
Speaker 12: Well?

1336
01:07:10,907 --> 01:07:13,027
Speaker 6: It doesn't surprise me. Actually, I watched the game this

1337
01:07:13,187 --> 01:07:15,867
Speaker 6: morning and I watched the game last week. He neither

1338
01:07:15,947 --> 01:07:19,027
Speaker 6: game surprised me because Bournemouth the week before, of course

1339
01:07:19,067 --> 01:07:21,787
Speaker 6: put Newcastle to the sword. It's in Chases Park and

1340
01:07:21,867 --> 01:07:23,867
Speaker 6: they played him off. They could have been eight little

1341
01:07:23,907 --> 01:07:27,507
Speaker 6: oone poor one. And then against Forrest they both teams

1342
01:07:27,547 --> 01:07:29,507
Speaker 6: have got a lot of big, strong players and Bournemouth

1343
01:07:29,507 --> 01:07:32,067
Speaker 6: the've got a lot of small, skillful players with pace

1344
01:07:32,147 --> 01:07:35,387
Speaker 6: and David Brooks and that, and they tore Bournemouth. They

1345
01:07:35,467 --> 01:07:38,707
Speaker 6: tore Forest apart last week. But no, it was completely

1346
01:07:38,787 --> 01:07:42,027
Speaker 6: different now the Bournemouth side under Spirito Cento. If you

1347
01:07:42,067 --> 01:07:44,387
Speaker 6: look at the team that he had with Walls, and

1348
01:07:44,427 --> 01:07:46,627
Speaker 6: he got them promoted and they did fantastically well in

1349
01:07:46,707 --> 01:07:49,067
Speaker 6: the Premier League. They had this rule him and as

1350
01:07:49,147 --> 01:07:52,227
Speaker 6: this Mexican center forward and they diego Jotterer on one

1351
01:07:52,307 --> 01:07:53,747
Speaker 6: side and they had another wing on the out side.

1352
01:07:53,747 --> 01:07:54,307
Speaker 12: I can't remember his.

1353
01:07:54,387 --> 01:07:56,547
Speaker 6: Name, but they played a very similar top of football

1354
01:07:56,587 --> 01:07:59,507
Speaker 6: where they break with the wingers and they break with

1355
01:07:59,707 --> 01:08:02,427
Speaker 6: real pace. And he turned that rule himenes into a

1356
01:08:02,907 --> 01:08:05,387
Speaker 6: local hero at Walls. He's got a mountain of goals.

1357
01:08:05,427 --> 01:08:07,427
Speaker 6: You know, before he had that before he had that

1358
01:08:07,547 --> 01:08:10,027
Speaker 6: head injury. He's starting to come back now it's full him.

1359
01:08:10,067 --> 01:08:12,067
Speaker 6: But he was brilliant at the time and now Chris

1360
01:08:12,107 --> 01:08:14,267
Speaker 6: Wood's doing the same thing. He's got that Langer on

1361
01:08:14,347 --> 01:08:16,827
Speaker 6: one side, Husan a door. He's more of a goal

1362
01:08:16,907 --> 01:08:19,427
Speaker 6: scoring winger and gives White. Of course he's a number ten.

1363
01:08:19,467 --> 01:08:22,707
Speaker 6: He's played for England already this year. I mean those

1364
01:08:22,747 --> 01:08:25,827
Speaker 6: are attacking players now. When they played Liverpool and they

1365
01:08:25,827 --> 01:08:28,427
Speaker 6: inflicted that one loss that was at Enfield this year,

1366
01:08:28,747 --> 01:08:31,787
Speaker 6: they played with a low block and slots it afterwards

1367
01:08:31,827 --> 01:08:34,427
Speaker 6: that he struck their Liverpool struggled against the low block

1368
01:08:34,467 --> 01:08:37,227
Speaker 6: and then Forrest would just break and break with purpose.

1369
01:08:37,307 --> 01:08:39,467
Speaker 6: And then he saw the game this morning. I mean,

1370
01:08:39,947 --> 01:08:43,027
Speaker 6: Brighton has sixty two percent of possession, so they had

1371
01:08:43,067 --> 01:08:44,867
Speaker 6: plenty of They had plenty of ball. And that van

1372
01:08:44,947 --> 01:08:48,307
Speaker 6: Hecker that plays at the back, that Dutch defender for

1373
01:08:49,027 --> 01:08:52,827
Speaker 6: Brighton made he's a tough guy and he's a real

1374
01:08:52,907 --> 01:08:55,387
Speaker 6: good player, one of the best center backs in the league. Yeah,

1375
01:08:55,427 --> 01:08:57,987
Speaker 6: Chris Wood's movement got him away. And if look at

1376
01:08:58,027 --> 01:09:00,747
Speaker 6: Chris Wood's goals, that first Hitder, I mean he dreams

1377
01:09:00,787 --> 01:09:02,787
Speaker 6: about those sorts of crosses from a Langer and that

1378
01:09:02,947 --> 01:09:05,107
Speaker 6: second one was right in the six yard box. Those

1379
01:09:05,147 --> 01:09:08,387
Speaker 6: were two real Chris Woods. Now, okay, Chris Wood is

1380
01:09:08,387 --> 01:09:11,147
Speaker 6: an old fashioned type of guy. He plays limited sort

1381
01:09:11,187 --> 01:09:13,747
Speaker 6: of ability. But it's no point in having all that

1382
01:09:13,867 --> 01:09:15,947
Speaker 6: nice approach work from a Langer and hudsond a doory

1383
01:09:15,987 --> 01:09:17,667
Speaker 6: and goes well if you don't have somebody to finish

1384
01:09:17,707 --> 01:09:20,307
Speaker 6: off the chances. And like seventeen league goals. I looked

1385
01:09:20,347 --> 01:09:22,187
Speaker 6: at Olie Watkins last year for Villa. He's one of

1386
01:09:22,267 --> 01:09:24,907
Speaker 6: my favorite strikers. He got twenty seven goals last year,

1387
01:09:24,947 --> 01:09:27,787
Speaker 6: but nineteen league goals, and they're like gold dust in

1388
01:09:27,907 --> 01:09:30,507
Speaker 6: the stage of the season. Seventeen goals, give me a break.

1389
01:09:30,507 --> 01:09:32,587
Speaker 6: I remember he was at Leeds United at Chris Wood

1390
01:09:32,947 --> 01:09:34,707
Speaker 6: and he didn't even get a mention at the Hallbergs

1391
01:09:34,707 --> 01:09:36,787
Speaker 6: and that was in the championship. I don't think Leeds

1392
01:09:36,827 --> 01:09:39,307
Speaker 6: got promoted that yet. But he's got thirty goals at year.

1393
01:09:39,667 --> 01:09:43,187
Speaker 6: I mean, he was absolutely phenomenal. And he looked at

1394
01:09:43,307 --> 01:09:45,547
Speaker 6: first look. At first glance, he looked like an old

1395
01:09:45,627 --> 01:09:51,267
Speaker 6: fashioned Nat Lofthouse Lawton Bob Latchword type center forward, you know,

1396
01:09:51,427 --> 01:09:53,947
Speaker 6: straight through the middle. Give me a cross otherwise I'm

1397
01:09:53,987 --> 01:09:55,427
Speaker 6: not going to do anything else. But at the end

1398
01:09:55,467 --> 01:09:56,947
Speaker 6: of the day, look, he's had a look at this

1399
01:09:57,027 --> 01:09:58,867
Speaker 6: penalty count there until he scored the last six in

1400
01:09:58,907 --> 01:10:01,347
Speaker 6: a row, so he's even scoring from penalties as well,

1401
01:10:01,387 --> 01:10:04,387
Speaker 6: and he looks hungry for goals. And I heard during

1402
01:10:04,427 --> 01:10:07,187
Speaker 6: the week of every funny story he was there was

1403
01:10:07,267 --> 01:10:10,907
Speaker 6: a song put out in Nottingham by some guy all

1404
01:10:10,947 --> 01:10:14,187
Speaker 6: about Chris Wood. And I looked down at the reviews

1405
01:10:14,227 --> 01:10:15,787
Speaker 6: on it, and the guy said, oh, this is one

1406
01:10:15,827 --> 01:10:18,947
Speaker 6: of the finest vocal performances in recent history. Then I

1407
01:10:19,067 --> 01:10:22,947
Speaker 6: realized that the guy was a Notingham Forest broadcast. Then

1408
01:10:22,987 --> 01:10:25,267
Speaker 6: I checked further. He is a Noding and Forest season

1409
01:10:25,347 --> 01:10:27,787
Speaker 6: ticket holder, so I think he's a little bit bias

1410
01:10:27,867 --> 01:10:30,787
Speaker 6: with us. I haven't heard the song, but maybe you

1411
01:10:30,827 --> 01:10:33,307
Speaker 6: can produce it. It could play it, but apparently it's

1412
01:10:33,347 --> 01:10:34,147
Speaker 6: all about Chris Wood.

1413
01:10:34,467 --> 01:10:35,267
Speaker 2: I'll try and find it.

1414
01:10:35,307 --> 01:10:35,547
Speaker 12: Derrek.

1415
01:10:35,587 --> 01:10:38,267
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, Leeds, you'll know this. Leads won

1416
01:10:38,347 --> 01:10:40,747
Speaker 2: seven nol last night as well. They bet cart off

1417
01:10:40,787 --> 01:10:42,667
Speaker 2: their top of the championship, which is the one below

1418
01:10:42,707 --> 01:10:46,147
Speaker 2: the Premier League. Glen on email Jason as a Palace fan,

1419
01:10:46,747 --> 01:10:50,547
Speaker 2: nothing more gratifying than seeing Brighton get done, but seven

1420
01:10:50,627 --> 01:10:52,867
Speaker 2: nil has made this Sunday a day of much comfort

1421
01:10:52,987 --> 01:10:55,307
Speaker 2: and joy. I tuned him for the second half, but

1422
01:10:55,387 --> 01:10:59,547
Speaker 2: have seen Wood's first goal. He is proving a master finisher.

1423
01:10:59,667 --> 01:11:01,187
Speaker 2: He doesn't make many goals on his own, but he

1424
01:11:01,307 --> 01:11:04,267
Speaker 2: reads the game and has a finisher's instinct when it

1425
01:11:04,307 --> 01:11:07,027
Speaker 2: comes to where he should be. And with the best

1426
01:11:07,027 --> 01:11:10,107
Speaker 2: of them, I would say statistically he's better than Earling

1427
01:11:10,147 --> 01:11:13,427
Speaker 2: Harland and chance has converted this season at least great

1428
01:11:13,467 --> 01:11:15,467
Speaker 2: to see him doing so well. Couldn't agree more. Gland

1429
01:11:15,787 --> 01:11:19,787
Speaker 2: could not agree more. Is Chris Wood bigger than what

1430
01:11:19,867 --> 01:11:22,227
Speaker 2: Winton Rufe was? Asks this text. Look, I'm not going

1431
01:11:22,267 --> 01:11:25,067
Speaker 2: to go into that today. This is an argument that

1432
01:11:25,187 --> 01:11:28,147
Speaker 2: needs a lot more time dedicated to it. But you know,

1433
01:11:28,347 --> 01:11:32,867
Speaker 2: rather than compare across generations and across competitions, I think

1434
01:11:32,907 --> 01:11:34,987
Speaker 2: we can just all agree that Chris Wood is having

1435
01:11:35,467 --> 01:11:38,547
Speaker 2: the time of his life in the Premier League right

1436
01:11:38,627 --> 01:11:41,907
Speaker 2: now and in a couple of months is going to

1437
01:11:41,947 --> 01:11:44,787
Speaker 2: be back here. Fact less than a couple of months

1438
01:11:44,987 --> 01:11:47,827
Speaker 2: back end of March, the All Whites are in the

1439
01:11:47,907 --> 01:11:51,227
Speaker 2: final stages of World Cup qualifying. They take on Fiji

1440
01:11:51,467 --> 01:11:54,587
Speaker 2: and Wellington on the twenty first of March. Win that

1441
01:11:55,467 --> 01:11:57,187
Speaker 2: that's a Friday night, and then on the Monday night

1442
01:11:57,227 --> 01:12:00,707
Speaker 2: they'll beat Eden Park in Auckland for the OEFC Oceanny

1443
01:12:00,747 --> 01:12:04,787
Speaker 2: Football Confederation World Cup Qualifying Final and they're off to

1444
01:12:04,827 --> 01:12:07,987
Speaker 2: the World Cup direct entry for Oceania. Now, of course,

1445
01:12:08,747 --> 01:12:11,947
Speaker 2: and Chris Wood always always always comes back.

1446
01:12:12,427 --> 01:12:12,787
Speaker 12: None of this.

1447
01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:14,707
Speaker 2: I've got a bit of a hamstring niggler. I'm not

1448
01:12:14,707 --> 01:12:17,307
Speaker 2: going to travel all that way. He always comes back.

1449
01:12:17,707 --> 01:12:21,227
Speaker 2: He'll come back, He'll lead that side. And I just

1450
01:12:21,267 --> 01:12:24,827
Speaker 2: think it would be a tremendous swan song for him

1451
01:12:25,027 --> 01:12:27,347
Speaker 2: if he leads the All Whites to a World Cup,

1452
01:12:27,907 --> 01:12:29,947
Speaker 2: takes them to that World Cup in a couple of years.

1453
01:12:30,707 --> 01:12:34,787
Speaker 2: And you know, he not necessarily started his career at

1454
01:12:34,787 --> 01:12:36,947
Speaker 2: a World Cup, but he went in twenty ten when

1455
01:12:36,947 --> 01:12:39,347
Speaker 2: he was only eighteen years old. Would love to think

1456
01:12:39,347 --> 01:12:41,427
Speaker 2: that he'd go to another one in twenty twenty six

1457
01:12:41,507 --> 01:12:43,067
Speaker 2: and then come back to New Zealand for a season

1458
01:12:43,107 --> 01:12:46,987
Speaker 2: with Auckland FC or the Phoenix maybe who knows. Nineteen

1459
01:12:47,027 --> 01:12:49,867
Speaker 2: away from two updating you from the Cricket seventy seven

1460
01:12:49,947 --> 01:12:53,387
Speaker 2: for five the Blaze seventy seven for five and that

1461
01:12:53,507 --> 01:12:57,387
Speaker 2: is in the sixteenth over, so Otago have a firm

1462
01:12:57,427 --> 01:13:00,707
Speaker 2: grip on the women's final in the Big Bash, but

1463
01:13:01,267 --> 01:13:04,147
Speaker 2: the Blaze doing their best to score a few more

1464
01:13:04,227 --> 01:13:07,347
Speaker 2: and put a decent total on the ball or seventy

1465
01:13:07,627 --> 01:13:11,187
Speaker 2: seven for five? Did I say seventy seven for five

1466
01:13:11,507 --> 01:13:13,787
Speaker 2: coming towards the end of the sixteenth over, they stake

1467
01:13:13,827 --> 01:13:15,747
Speaker 2: a break when we come back. James mcconey in his

1468
01:13:15,867 --> 01:13:17,067
Speaker 2: regular Sunday slot.

1469
01:13:18,227 --> 01:13:21,987
Speaker 1: The Big Issues on and After Field Call eight hundred

1470
01:13:22,107 --> 01:13:25,467
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Pain and GJ.

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Speaker 2: Milder News Talks B sixteen away from two Sunday afternoon

1473
01:13:31,747 --> 01:13:34,547
Speaker 2: means James mcconey at around about this time, Hello, mate,

1474
01:13:35,667 --> 01:13:36,387
Speaker 2: good a piney.

1475
01:13:36,667 --> 01:13:40,707
Speaker 20: Please excuse the cicadas. I'm in kafire again. But those

1476
01:13:40,747 --> 01:13:42,867
Speaker 20: cicadas are the reason why when they filmed the last

1477
01:13:42,907 --> 01:13:46,427
Speaker 20: Summurai down in Tallanaki and they had to redoub.

1478
01:13:46,107 --> 01:13:50,307
Speaker 2: It all and post, the cicadas wanted the starring role.

1479
01:13:51,027 --> 01:13:53,627
Speaker 20: Yeah, they couldn't hit Tom Cruise. He wanted to be heard.

1480
01:13:54,667 --> 01:13:56,707
Speaker 2: I think that's probably fair enough given what he was

1481
01:13:57,187 --> 01:14:00,667
Speaker 2: being paid for the movie. Anyway, we digress. I think

1482
01:14:00,747 --> 01:14:03,387
Speaker 2: Chris Wood is about the biggest star as Tom Cruise

1483
01:14:03,467 --> 01:14:04,307
Speaker 2: right now, what do you reckon?

1484
01:14:05,147 --> 01:14:05,307
Speaker 12: Oh?

1485
01:14:05,427 --> 01:14:10,067
Speaker 20: Massive, definitely bigger than Tom Cruise and also probably bringing

1486
01:14:10,347 --> 01:14:14,467
Speaker 20: you know, big front men back. We've kind of scattered

1487
01:14:14,507 --> 01:14:17,507
Speaker 20: around that subject in previous years. But seventeen goals as

1488
01:14:17,587 --> 01:14:20,907
Speaker 20: best all ever in a Premier League season and we're

1489
01:14:20,987 --> 01:14:23,707
Speaker 20: only two thirds of the way through. So this is

1490
01:14:23,827 --> 01:14:26,827
Speaker 20: just incredible stuff from Chris Wood with his hat trick

1491
01:14:27,307 --> 01:14:30,427
Speaker 20: last night against Brighton. But I think it changes the

1492
01:14:30,507 --> 01:14:32,907
Speaker 20: game to me. I think a lot of teams will

1493
01:14:32,947 --> 01:14:35,787
Speaker 20: be thinking about a proper front man now. I know

1494
01:14:36,027 --> 01:14:38,627
Speaker 20: Harland has kind of been that for Man City, but

1495
01:14:39,107 --> 01:14:40,947
Speaker 20: he's a bit a different beast because he's got all

1496
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Speaker 20: that speed. I think really what you're looking at Chris

1497
01:14:44,227 --> 01:14:47,027
Speaker 20: Wood as just somebody who gives them the perfect target,

1498
01:14:47,107 --> 01:14:48,947
Speaker 20: knows how to find the back of the net, and

1499
01:14:49,147 --> 01:14:52,227
Speaker 20: has you know, can score in a multitude of ways,

1500
01:14:52,267 --> 01:14:55,427
Speaker 20: which is really shown now. He's not just a heater

1501
01:14:55,547 --> 01:14:56,627
Speaker 20: from the six yard box.

1502
01:14:56,787 --> 01:14:59,707
Speaker 2: Indeed, I'm glad the old fashion number nine is coming

1503
01:14:59,787 --> 01:15:03,027
Speaker 2: back into fashion because you know, for a while we

1504
01:15:03,107 --> 01:15:04,907
Speaker 2: didn't see that type of player, did we everyone was

1505
01:15:04,907 --> 01:15:07,347
Speaker 2: sort of a nippy winger or a creative number ten.

1506
01:15:07,747 --> 01:15:09,387
Speaker 2: I'm not sure there was a place for the for

1507
01:15:09,467 --> 01:15:10,747
Speaker 2: the Chris Woods of this world.

1508
01:15:11,587 --> 01:15:14,867
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, let you think about it, like Argentina

1509
01:15:14,947 --> 01:15:17,347
Speaker 20: went from a beautiful number nine and Buddy Stussa to

1510
01:15:17,507 --> 01:15:20,027
Speaker 20: the to the messy years, right, and of course in

1511
01:15:20,107 --> 01:15:21,747
Speaker 20: the end it had got them a World Cup, but

1512
01:15:22,227 --> 01:15:25,307
Speaker 20: it was painful for a long time there, and I

1513
01:15:25,387 --> 01:15:27,467
Speaker 20: think it would have it would have they would have

1514
01:15:27,507 --> 01:15:30,187
Speaker 20: benefited from having someone like that. I mean, they they

1515
01:15:30,267 --> 01:15:32,747
Speaker 20: dabbled with it. Chris bo. I'm getting deep into football

1516
01:15:33,067 --> 01:15:36,067
Speaker 20: territory here, but I just think what Chris has done

1517
01:15:36,267 --> 01:15:39,987
Speaker 20: is phenomenal and also probably shows that in its first

1518
01:15:40,467 --> 01:15:42,827
Speaker 20: let's say, five or six years of a profession of

1519
01:15:42,947 --> 01:15:45,907
Speaker 20: being a professional footballer, he probably wasn't all that professional.

1520
01:15:46,027 --> 01:15:48,827
Speaker 20: But now he is the gold standard. He's the guys

1521
01:15:48,907 --> 01:15:52,227
Speaker 20: really pretty much found focus. And whether it's having other

1522
01:15:52,307 --> 01:15:55,947
Speaker 20: business interests like you know, the horses that he's that

1523
01:15:56,067 --> 01:15:59,667
Speaker 20: he owns, and and also you know with getting married

1524
01:15:59,747 --> 01:16:02,427
Speaker 20: and all these things, I think Chris Wood and out

1525
01:16:02,547 --> 01:16:06,947
Speaker 20: now the dad has has turned the page for professionally

1526
01:16:07,067 --> 01:16:10,587
Speaker 20: where he just is really going to be a force

1527
01:16:10,627 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 20: to be reckoned with. Should be all whites make the

1528
01:16:13,107 --> 01:16:14,947
Speaker 20: World Cup, and I think they will give him. That

1529
01:16:15,707 --> 01:16:17,907
Speaker 20: has to be the best for Oceania. And with him

1530
01:16:17,947 --> 01:16:20,067
Speaker 20: at the hell, I'm surely we're going through.

1531
01:16:20,347 --> 01:16:23,147
Speaker 2: I would have to think so. And alongside him, you'd

1532
01:16:23,187 --> 01:16:25,227
Speaker 2: have to think there'll be a few Auckland FC players

1533
01:16:25,267 --> 01:16:27,987
Speaker 2: as well, particularly given the way they're going right now.

1534
01:16:28,507 --> 01:16:31,027
Speaker 2: Speaking of sticking it in the mixer as they do

1535
01:16:31,147 --> 01:16:33,667
Speaker 2: for Chris Wood, Francis Devrees is getting pretty good at

1536
01:16:33,707 --> 01:16:36,227
Speaker 2: that and lous ver Strata with a goal yesterday and

1537
01:16:36,267 --> 01:16:38,187
Speaker 2: Auckland are five points clear at the top.

1538
01:16:39,067 --> 01:16:42,467
Speaker 20: Well, I do want to talk about Francis Deverse. Frankie says, relax,

1539
01:16:42,907 --> 01:16:46,547
Speaker 20: I've got this. Anyone there from the eighties.

1540
01:16:46,267 --> 01:16:47,707
Speaker 2: Hello, gotcha, I've got ya.

1541
01:16:49,827 --> 01:16:53,827
Speaker 20: But he with no diverse, no wins, That's what I'm saying.

1542
01:16:54,387 --> 01:16:56,947
Speaker 20: His delivery is so good. I think he saved the

1543
01:16:57,027 --> 01:17:00,187
Speaker 20: club at least in four games. But also in terms

1544
01:17:00,187 --> 01:17:03,067
Speaker 20: of assists, he must be leading the A League poney,

1545
01:17:03,187 --> 01:17:06,467
Speaker 20: because it's just mounting up and it's about time we

1546
01:17:07,067 --> 01:17:09,787
Speaker 20: look at the person who was laying it on the

1547
01:17:09,867 --> 01:17:12,507
Speaker 20: assists because they don't always get the headlines. There always

1548
01:17:12,547 --> 01:17:14,027
Speaker 20: used to be the goal scorer, even if it was

1549
01:17:14,067 --> 01:17:16,667
Speaker 20: a tapping from one yard, they'd get the headlines. But

1550
01:17:16,747 --> 01:17:18,987
Speaker 20: as far as I'm concerned, it should be all about

1551
01:17:19,067 --> 01:17:21,027
Speaker 20: Debrees And yeah, I think he's got to go to

1552
01:17:21,067 --> 01:17:21,587
Speaker 20: the World Cup.

1553
01:17:21,747 --> 01:17:24,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he is. I mean he's more and

1554
01:17:25,027 --> 01:17:27,947
Speaker 2: more appealing as Libby Cacaci's backup. But I've seen a

1555
01:17:27,987 --> 01:17:30,747
Speaker 2: bit of narrative around at the moment saying, imagine Francis

1556
01:17:30,827 --> 01:17:34,307
Speaker 2: Dvrees putting in these wonderful crosses for Chris Wood. It

1557
01:17:34,387 --> 01:17:35,827
Speaker 2: feels like a match made in heaven.

1558
01:17:36,707 --> 01:17:37,387
Speaker 20: Well, that's the thing.

1559
01:17:37,467 --> 01:17:37,707
Speaker 12: I think.

1560
01:17:37,787 --> 01:17:40,867
Speaker 20: Libby Cocaci is versatile. I know he's mainly played left

1561
01:17:40,907 --> 01:17:43,547
Speaker 20: back his career, but if you look at the way

1562
01:17:43,587 --> 01:17:46,067
Speaker 20: he's developed and it'tle He's very comfortable on the ball.

1563
01:17:46,587 --> 01:17:48,387
Speaker 20: I think he could play left side, in midfield, or

1564
01:17:48,427 --> 01:17:52,907
Speaker 20: even inside left if you know someone like Saravrek wasn't available,

1565
01:17:53,187 --> 01:17:55,147
Speaker 20: I think you can push him further upfield. He's got

1566
01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:57,147
Speaker 20: a how its are of a shot on him, Libby.

1567
01:17:57,307 --> 01:17:59,187
Speaker 20: So yeah, I'll bring on Devise.

1568
01:17:59,227 --> 01:18:01,747
Speaker 2: I say, indeed, all right, six Nations is underway. We've

1569
01:18:01,787 --> 01:18:04,467
Speaker 2: had the first weekend gie. Wales aren't having much fun

1570
01:18:04,507 --> 01:18:05,187
Speaker 2: at the moment, are they?

1571
01:18:06,427 --> 01:18:10,147
Speaker 20: And I feel sorry for Warren Gatlin. You know, gatz

1572
01:18:10,467 --> 01:18:12,827
Speaker 20: is a good man and he's very loyal and you

1573
01:18:12,907 --> 01:18:14,707
Speaker 20: know I had that. He even turned down the England

1574
01:18:14,827 --> 01:18:17,987
Speaker 20: job to stay with Wales, mainly because he wouldn't have

1575
01:18:17,987 --> 01:18:20,707
Speaker 20: been allowed back in Wales to that to his house

1576
01:18:20,747 --> 01:18:24,427
Speaker 20: for the young. There there reasons, but also it's out

1577
01:18:24,467 --> 01:18:27,107
Speaker 20: of loyalty and he said, look, I'll help you rebuild.

1578
01:18:27,347 --> 01:18:29,627
Speaker 20: And the problem is he is deep in a rebuild

1579
01:18:30,027 --> 01:18:32,507
Speaker 20: and this is what happens. You will fall, you'll lose

1580
01:18:32,547 --> 01:18:36,587
Speaker 20: by almost fifty points to France, and that's what happened yesterday.

1581
01:18:36,707 --> 01:18:41,107
Speaker 20: So look, I think they should persevere with him through

1582
01:18:41,187 --> 01:18:44,267
Speaker 20: the Six Nations. But you know it's going to be

1583
01:18:44,347 --> 01:18:45,907
Speaker 20: tough for Whales. They even look at some of the

1584
01:18:46,347 --> 01:18:48,787
Speaker 20: players they're bringing on that there's a young first five

1585
01:18:48,907 --> 01:18:51,707
Speaker 20: called Dan Edwards who's going to be the future savior

1586
01:18:51,787 --> 01:18:54,387
Speaker 20: for Wales. He will be really good. But he made

1587
01:18:54,427 --> 01:18:57,107
Speaker 20: his test debut coming on and it was twenty one

1588
01:18:57,267 --> 01:19:01,027
Speaker 20: or twenty eight mil yesterday off the bench. That's there

1589
01:19:01,147 --> 01:19:04,387
Speaker 20: is a proper baptism of fire for him. And he's

1590
01:19:04,427 --> 01:19:07,787
Speaker 20: not ready yet, But hey, years he could be. And

1591
01:19:07,987 --> 01:19:10,947
Speaker 20: Gats has shown even when he was the Chief Chiefs

1592
01:19:10,987 --> 01:19:13,627
Speaker 20: and had that terrible losing streak, you can see the

1593
01:19:13,787 --> 01:19:19,467
Speaker 20: players he brought through two point by Summersony, Tokyoho, Quintupia,

1594
01:19:20,027 --> 01:19:22,827
Speaker 20: all under his tutelage came through in those horrible the

1595
01:19:23,267 --> 01:19:28,307
Speaker 20: thirteen game wins losing streaks. Sorry, but hey, this key

1596
01:19:28,387 --> 01:19:30,667
Speaker 20: he's doing well for Ireland. So not not so bad,

1597
01:19:31,027 --> 01:19:31,547
Speaker 20: not so bad.

1598
01:19:31,627 --> 01:19:34,827
Speaker 2: Just I finished with the NFL in Super Bowl, which

1599
01:19:34,867 --> 01:19:37,267
Speaker 2: I think is tomorrow week, isn't it. They normally have

1600
01:19:37,667 --> 01:19:39,227
Speaker 2: quite a big build up to this. They an't that

1601
01:19:39,307 --> 01:19:42,187
Speaker 2: big week of festivities and celebrations.

1602
01:19:43,027 --> 01:19:47,307
Speaker 20: Yeah, there's lots of media days. Can you remember Marshall

1603
01:19:47,307 --> 01:19:49,667
Speaker 20: and Lynch said I'm only here because they made me.

1604
01:19:50,107 --> 01:19:55,427
Speaker 20: They made me. Yeah, so his quote, he repeated that quote.

1605
01:19:55,427 --> 01:19:57,787
Speaker 20: I think they're a bit more media friendly, both these teams.

1606
01:19:57,827 --> 01:20:01,067
Speaker 20: But it is the match made and let's call it

1607
01:20:01,227 --> 01:20:06,307
Speaker 20: ratings Heaven because you've got Taylor Swift against the Philadelphia Eagle.

1608
01:20:06,547 --> 01:20:13,587
Speaker 20: So Taylor Swift, of course is Travis Kelcey's girlfriend and

1609
01:20:13,707 --> 01:20:17,867
Speaker 20: she's going to be there. Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback

1610
01:20:17,907 --> 01:20:19,947
Speaker 20: and they're going for a three peat, which has ever

1611
01:20:19,987 --> 01:20:24,107
Speaker 20: been done. So meanwhile, you've got the Philadelphia Eagles, and

1612
01:20:24,227 --> 01:20:26,827
Speaker 20: of course they've already had a pretty star studded scene.

1613
01:20:27,147 --> 01:20:29,947
Speaker 20: They've got Patrick Malarta who's got plucked from South Sydney

1614
01:20:30,027 --> 01:20:33,507
Speaker 20: rabbit Ohs to be a big offensive lineman. So there's

1615
01:20:33,547 --> 01:20:36,707
Speaker 20: a bit of down Under flavor pacifica flavor there. But

1616
01:20:36,867 --> 01:20:41,307
Speaker 20: also Sakwon Barclay is the man who everybody will remember

1617
01:20:41,387 --> 01:20:45,587
Speaker 20: doing the reverse hurdle jumping a player going backwards this

1618
01:20:45,747 --> 01:20:47,827
Speaker 20: year and he's just been a total superstar.

1619
01:20:47,987 --> 01:20:49,107
Speaker 12: So a lot to like.

1620
01:20:49,227 --> 01:20:51,427
Speaker 20: And there I say it, I'm going for chefs Monna.

1621
01:20:52,507 --> 01:20:53,187
Speaker 12: Well, what a.

1622
01:20:53,187 --> 01:20:56,427
Speaker 2: Surprise, What a surprise, back to the cicadas for you.

1623
01:20:56,907 --> 01:20:58,387
Speaker 2: Let's chat again next Sunday, shall we?

1624
01:20:59,307 --> 01:21:01,147
Speaker 20: Yep? Sure, poney, it will be a new insect and

1625
01:21:01,187 --> 01:21:01,587
Speaker 20: a new me.

1626
01:21:02,627 --> 01:21:05,827
Speaker 2: James mcconey part of our Sundays around this time on

1627
01:21:05,947 --> 01:21:08,787
Speaker 2: weekend sport catch them across your socials, part of the

1628
01:21:08,827 --> 01:21:13,347
Speaker 2: alternative commentary collective. Craig goes Wild on Sky and as

1629
01:21:13,387 --> 01:21:15,067
Speaker 2: I say, a big part of our Sundays as well.

1630
01:21:15,147 --> 01:21:16,907
Speaker 2: Eight Away from two news talks.

1631
01:21:17,907 --> 01:21:22,867
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails Weekend

1632
01:21:22,947 --> 01:21:25,427
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason yin news Talk.

1633
01:21:25,587 --> 01:21:28,667
Speaker 2: Zeb five to two, updating you from the basement reserve

1634
01:21:28,747 --> 01:21:31,907
Speaker 2: nineteen overs gone and Wellington's innings ninety five for seven.

1635
01:21:31,987 --> 01:21:36,347
Speaker 2: They are against Otago man. The Otago Sparks have got

1636
01:21:36,347 --> 01:21:38,547
Speaker 2: a pretty firm grip on this game, ninety five for

1637
01:21:38,667 --> 01:21:41,387
Speaker 2: seven with an over to go, So Wellington kind of

1638
01:21:41,507 --> 01:21:44,227
Speaker 2: stumbling their way towards three figures, which I guess would

1639
01:21:44,227 --> 01:21:46,947
Speaker 2: at least give them a bit of a psychological boost

1640
01:21:46,987 --> 01:21:49,227
Speaker 2: if they can get past the three figures. But Otago

1641
01:21:49,267 --> 01:21:52,307
Speaker 2: I've done a pretty good job of keeping Wellington in

1642
01:21:52,547 --> 01:21:56,667
Speaker 2: check and mast sense an opportunity to chase down whatever

1643
01:21:56,747 --> 01:22:00,667
Speaker 2: total is eventually posted in this last over by Wellington.

1644
01:22:00,907 --> 01:22:03,107
Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date. Speaking of the Super Smash,

1645
01:22:03,227 --> 01:22:05,267
Speaker 2: the men's final will follow also at the base in

1646
01:22:05,347 --> 01:22:07,787
Speaker 2: reserve twenty five. I've passed four this afternoon that one

1647
01:22:07,827 --> 01:22:10,907
Speaker 2: gets underway. It'll feature the Central Stacks who finished top

1648
01:22:10,987 --> 01:22:15,267
Speaker 2: qualifiers against Canterbury, who yesterday earned their place by virtue

1649
01:22:15,267 --> 01:22:18,027
Speaker 2: of a win a very comprehensive win over the Northern

1650
01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:22,787
Speaker 2: Brave in the elimination final. At one point I was

1651
01:22:22,907 --> 01:22:25,267
Speaker 2: following this game. I was out of the football and

1652
01:22:25,467 --> 01:22:27,387
Speaker 2: I sort of had my phone and I was checking

1653
01:22:27,427 --> 01:22:29,427
Speaker 2: the score and I thought something had happened to my

1654
01:22:29,547 --> 01:22:32,667
Speaker 2: phone because I looked down and it had seven for five.

1655
01:22:33,387 --> 01:22:36,427
Speaker 2: I thought they can't be five down for seven, but

1656
01:22:36,547 --> 01:22:38,467
Speaker 2: indeed they were the Northern Brave. Somehow I got through

1657
01:22:38,467 --> 01:22:41,267
Speaker 2: about one hundred and ten, but Canterbury chased it down.

1658
01:22:41,547 --> 01:22:44,067
Speaker 2: Canterbury coach Peter Fulton with us after two o'clock. We'll

1659
01:22:44,067 --> 01:22:46,667
Speaker 2: also get you to the UK for in more in

1660
01:22:46,747 --> 01:22:50,627
Speaker 2: depth chat about the Six Nations. Weekend One is done,

1661
01:22:50,787 --> 01:22:53,547
Speaker 2: All done, Wins for Scotland, for France and also for

1662
01:22:53,667 --> 01:22:58,107
Speaker 2: Ireland and a man running two hundred and ten kilometers continuously.

1663
01:22:59,227 --> 01:23:03,347
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1664
01:23:04,147 --> 01:23:09,667
Speaker 1: the big controversies, the big conversations. It's all on Weekends

1665
01:23:09,707 --> 01:23:14,027
Speaker 1: Forward with Jason Hin on your home of sport News Talks.

1666
01:23:14,067 --> 01:23:14,547
Speaker 12: It'd been.

1667
01:23:16,107 --> 01:23:18,467
Speaker 2: Two o seven. This is Weekend Sportland till three on

1668
01:23:18,627 --> 01:23:22,187
Speaker 2: Jason Pine, Andy McDonald's show. Producer Peter Fulton's on the

1669
01:23:22,227 --> 01:23:25,627
Speaker 2: sharer moment, coach of the Canterbury cricket team as they

1670
01:23:25,707 --> 01:23:29,907
Speaker 2: look to end five years have hurt. This is their

1671
01:23:29,987 --> 01:23:34,387
Speaker 2: fifth straight T twenty men's final. They've lost the last four,

1672
01:23:34,987 --> 01:23:38,147
Speaker 2: surely it's their time. They take on the Stags this

1673
01:23:38,227 --> 01:23:40,467
Speaker 2: afternoon from four to twenty five. Peter Fulton along in

1674
01:23:40,547 --> 01:23:44,307
Speaker 2: a moment six stations underweight, Martin Gillingham out of the

1675
01:23:44,427 --> 01:23:48,947
Speaker 2: UK unpacking that for us bergwin for France over Wales,

1676
01:23:48,947 --> 01:23:52,467
Speaker 2: Scotland beating Italy and Ireland over England and Dublin this

1677
01:23:52,547 --> 01:23:56,387
Speaker 2: morning as well, how did all six teams look? And

1678
01:23:56,467 --> 01:23:59,267
Speaker 2: we'll also check them with a man who across this

1679
01:23:59,427 --> 01:24:04,627
Speaker 2: weekend has set himself the target of running for forty

1680
01:24:04,827 --> 01:24:10,747
Speaker 2: hours straight, two hundred and ten kilometers continuously for a

1681
01:24:10,827 --> 01:24:14,067
Speaker 2: great cause. This is happening in the Nilson region. We'll

1682
01:24:14,507 --> 01:24:17,507
Speaker 2: get to the man in question in a little while

1683
01:24:17,587 --> 01:24:21,067
Speaker 2: as well. Your cause and correspondence always welcome. Oh eight

1684
01:24:21,187 --> 01:24:22,907
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighties the number on the phone

1685
01:24:22,947 --> 01:24:25,627
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two on text emails to Jason at Newstalk

1686
01:24:25,707 --> 01:24:28,867
Speaker 2: SidD dot co dot nz. But as we approach eight

1687
01:24:28,947 --> 01:24:30,867
Speaker 2: pass two, let's get you up to date with some

1688
01:24:30,907 --> 01:24:34,067
Speaker 2: of the stuff that might have escaped your attention. The

1689
01:24:34,227 --> 01:24:37,067
Speaker 2: sporting bits and pieces that have happened over the last

1690
01:24:37,107 --> 01:24:39,467
Speaker 2: little while that you can't possibly have kept up with

1691
01:24:39,707 --> 01:24:42,547
Speaker 2: not all of it anyway. Let's start with the Six Nations.

1692
01:24:42,667 --> 01:24:45,747
Speaker 2: Good outing for Scotland to get their campaign underway, which

1693
01:24:45,787 --> 01:24:47,707
Speaker 2: starts with the tour last summer.

1694
01:24:47,867 --> 01:24:52,387
Speaker 28: Tom Jordan lovely pass hu jokes, he's on and hunt time.

1695
01:24:54,067 --> 01:24:59,027
Speaker 2: A huge jokes and that's Scott's farm.

1696
01:24:58,867 --> 01:25:00,747
Speaker 22: Layer running over it.

1697
01:25:00,867 --> 01:25:05,747
Speaker 2: Build under a hero today he's huge jokes here. Good start.

1698
01:25:05,787 --> 01:25:07,987
Speaker 2: Thirty one nine thine teen winners over Italy. Still in

1699
01:25:08,147 --> 01:25:11,547
Speaker 2: the UK, Liverpool continue to top the English Premier League

1700
01:25:11,547 --> 01:25:16,147
Speaker 2: table out of Shalah and he extra togs class and

1701
01:25:16,387 --> 01:25:23,027
Speaker 2: he's done it so beautifully. A dazzling girl from the hammock.

1702
01:25:22,747 --> 01:25:26,027
Speaker 29: Shalah to double Liverpool's advantage.

1703
01:25:27,907 --> 01:25:32,627
Speaker 2: Chadorias finish Antonil one over Bournemouth sees Liverpool nine points

1704
01:25:32,667 --> 01:25:34,867
Speaker 2: clear at the top. Speaking of teams at the top

1705
01:25:34,907 --> 01:25:37,667
Speaker 2: of the table, come on down Auckland FC to Greece.

1706
01:25:38,147 --> 01:25:44,307
Speaker 29: This classic is always quality lo China for curtil Can

1707
01:25:44,827 --> 01:25:49,187
Speaker 29: didn't get its the late nights again and this.

1708
01:25:49,387 --> 01:25:50,667
Speaker 9: Time it's lively to China.

1709
01:25:51,227 --> 01:25:54,387
Speaker 2: When there's Thursday league men's gone and I can go

1710
01:25:54,507 --> 01:25:56,347
Speaker 2: two one ahead and one at two to one over

1711
01:25:56,427 --> 01:25:58,707
Speaker 2: MacArthur the breaker is a bit late in the season,

1712
01:25:58,787 --> 01:26:02,627
Speaker 2: but have found some cohesiveness in an impressive home win

1713
01:26:02,707 --> 01:26:05,907
Speaker 2: over the Kent's Type bands seven point defficent for the

1714
01:26:05,987 --> 01:26:09,747
Speaker 2: Snake Slay with a massive three big one.

1715
01:26:10,507 --> 01:26:13,827
Speaker 29: Bernie off Lives It's a King and the New Zealand

1716
01:26:13,947 --> 01:26:14,987
Speaker 29: Riker's Return.

1717
01:26:15,187 --> 01:26:19,747
Speaker 2: The winners list Lydia Coe a storming third round in

1718
01:26:19,827 --> 01:26:22,547
Speaker 2: the LPGA Tournament of champions.

1719
01:26:22,107 --> 01:26:24,347
Speaker 9: Lydia Co on eighteen to put together more than a

1720
01:26:24,427 --> 01:26:27,067
Speaker 9: bogey three round of sixty five.

1721
01:26:28,907 --> 01:26:32,387
Speaker 28: Little stroke okay, how much that broke short range?

1722
01:26:32,467 --> 01:26:33,907
Speaker 21: Wonderful save there.

1723
01:26:35,507 --> 01:26:37,267
Speaker 29: And really has put herself.

1724
01:26:36,907 --> 01:26:39,347
Speaker 2: In position indeed in a type of third, just four

1725
01:26:39,387 --> 01:26:42,507
Speaker 2: shots back from the lead. In Australia, the whitewash was

1726
01:26:42,587 --> 01:26:47,667
Speaker 2: completed in the women's Ashes cricket series. Are Stop Taking.

1727
01:26:49,387 --> 01:26:54,667
Speaker 29: Come over the Rives a Australia had Alana King a maiden.

1728
01:26:54,987 --> 01:26:57,627
Speaker 2: Kata at the MCAGS.

1729
01:26:57,707 --> 01:27:02,627
Speaker 6: You'll be on the on a board Australia comprehensive brook

1730
01:27:02,707 --> 01:27:03,987
Speaker 6: start to finish.

1731
01:27:03,947 --> 01:27:07,147
Speaker 2: Complete still across the Dutch ki we Eli Wallaston got

1732
01:27:07,227 --> 01:27:09,987
Speaker 2: her season off to our winning start in the kdell

1733
01:27:10,187 --> 01:27:12,787
Speaker 2: Evans Great Ocean Cycling Road Race.

1734
01:27:12,907 --> 01:27:15,707
Speaker 23: The rider in the Purple Jersey goes, but he comes

1735
01:27:15,747 --> 01:27:16,507
Speaker 23: Ali Walliston.

1736
01:27:16,747 --> 01:27:17,947
Speaker 2: Here comes Ali Willison in.

1737
01:27:17,947 --> 01:27:19,587
Speaker 21: A new coleus of m DJ Suez.

1738
01:27:19,987 --> 01:27:22,107
Speaker 2: Nobody's going to come close. Nobody's going to.

1739
01:27:22,067 --> 01:27:22,867
Speaker 21: Be able to challenge.

1740
01:27:23,027 --> 01:27:26,347
Speaker 2: And is Ali Wallerston who wins the Cattle Leven's Great

1741
01:27:26,387 --> 01:27:27,387
Speaker 2: Ocean road Race.

1742
01:27:27,707 --> 01:27:30,307
Speaker 24: What a start is being for the new Zealand rider

1743
01:27:30,627 --> 01:27:31,947
Speaker 24: and a new team of.

1744
01:27:32,107 --> 01:27:33,027
Speaker 21: F DJ Suez.

1745
01:27:33,147 --> 01:27:35,667
Speaker 2: Here one onto Ellie Walliston. Not though the comeback we

1746
01:27:35,747 --> 01:27:50,107
Speaker 2: were hoping for for Israel adisnya. He wins the biggest.

1747
01:27:49,787 --> 01:27:50,587
Speaker 6: Fight through his life.

1748
01:27:54,187 --> 01:27:55,867
Speaker 2: He couples the former.

1749
01:27:55,707 --> 01:28:04,907
Speaker 30: Champion one shot to kill a legend that was unbelievable,

1750
01:28:05,307 --> 01:28:08,947
Speaker 30: tazing every you from every angle in the sporting world.

1751
01:28:09,147 --> 01:28:14,307
Speaker 1: Weekends for It with Jason Pine Call eighty News Talks.

1752
01:28:14,067 --> 01:28:17,187
Speaker 2: NB coming up. Twelve past two. The domestic T twenty

1753
01:28:17,307 --> 01:28:20,987
Speaker 2: silverware handed out to the Basin Otago against Wellington in

1754
01:28:21,067 --> 01:28:24,707
Speaker 2: the women's final. Otaga I've just started their run chase

1755
01:28:24,827 --> 01:28:27,907
Speaker 2: for one hundred and five to win the women's trophy.

1756
01:28:28,027 --> 01:28:31,347
Speaker 2: It follows or will be followed by c D against

1757
01:28:31,467 --> 01:28:34,427
Speaker 2: Canterbury and the men's final. Canterbury earning their place with

1758
01:28:34,547 --> 01:28:38,787
Speaker 2: a comprehensive seven wicket win over Northern in the elimination

1759
01:28:38,987 --> 01:28:39,867
Speaker 2: final yesterday.

1760
01:28:41,187 --> 01:28:44,307
Speaker 29: Why here's an opportunity for med dwell on the rope

1761
01:28:44,507 --> 01:28:45,987
Speaker 29: and takes it cleanly.

1762
01:28:46,707 --> 01:28:51,907
Speaker 2: Player might strikes a fourth one false this time etisode Donald. Oh,

1763
01:28:52,227 --> 01:28:56,627
Speaker 2: Matt Henry, he's so for none. He's only halfway through

1764
01:28:56,667 --> 01:28:58,947
Speaker 2: his third over. Yeah, he's picked up his second worker

1765
01:28:59,187 --> 01:29:01,307
Speaker 2: yet to concede a run. It just goes from bad

1766
01:29:01,387 --> 01:29:04,187
Speaker 2: to worse for the Brave. I don't know what's happening

1767
01:29:04,227 --> 01:29:06,787
Speaker 2: out there. Matt Henry's has folled three over. He's got

1768
01:29:06,827 --> 01:29:10,907
Speaker 2: eighteen dodd balls. That runs for two records. But more importantly,

1769
01:29:11,187 --> 01:29:13,947
Speaker 2: Northern Braves seven four, seven for four. It got worse.

1770
01:29:14,027 --> 01:29:16,747
Speaker 2: They were seven for five a short time later before

1771
01:29:16,867 --> 01:29:20,107
Speaker 2: somehow getting through to one hundred and ten for nine.

1772
01:29:20,547 --> 01:29:22,987
Speaker 2: Canterbury chased that down inside fourteen overs to make the

1773
01:29:23,067 --> 01:29:25,947
Speaker 2: final today. Canterbury coach is Peter Fulton, who joins us. Now, Peter,

1774
01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:28,787
Speaker 2: what was going through mine yesterday when you set Northern

1775
01:29:28,867 --> 01:29:30,507
Speaker 2: in and there were seven for five?

1776
01:29:31,507 --> 01:29:35,947
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was pretty pretty surreal. I suppose the wicket, look,

1777
01:29:35,987 --> 01:29:36,227
Speaker 12: it was.

1778
01:29:36,307 --> 01:29:39,827
Speaker 5: A new surface, plenty of bounds, plenty of pace, so

1779
01:29:40,067 --> 01:29:42,987
Speaker 5: probably you know if you'd if you'd turned up and

1780
01:29:43,547 --> 01:29:46,027
Speaker 5: you know, got to choose the sort of surface you'd

1781
01:29:46,147 --> 01:29:47,947
Speaker 5: like to play on our with our team and our

1782
01:29:47,947 --> 01:29:50,227
Speaker 5: bowling attack, and that would have definitely been in I

1783
01:29:50,227 --> 01:29:51,107
Speaker 5: suppose just.

1784
01:29:51,107 --> 01:29:52,707
Speaker 2: Want to ask about a couple of year bowlers. Matt

1785
01:29:52,747 --> 01:29:56,107
Speaker 2: Henry four overs two for two remarkable. Can you tell

1786
01:29:56,187 --> 01:29:57,987
Speaker 2: us I can tell us a bit more about his

1787
01:29:58,107 --> 01:29:58,867
Speaker 2: bowling yesterday?

1788
01:30:00,027 --> 01:30:02,467
Speaker 12: Oh, look, he just did what he does.

1789
01:30:03,387 --> 01:30:06,267
Speaker 5: I think probably over the last year or so eighteen months,

1790
01:30:07,307 --> 01:30:09,587
Speaker 5: you know, you can really see he's just in complete

1791
01:30:09,627 --> 01:30:12,827
Speaker 5: control of I guess, his bowling and he knows what

1792
01:30:12,947 --> 01:30:15,987
Speaker 5: to do. He knows on each surface, against each each

1793
01:30:16,547 --> 01:30:19,307
Speaker 5: you know, it gives a different batsman where he has

1794
01:30:19,387 --> 01:30:21,627
Speaker 5: to bowl. And I think he's probably taken a lot

1795
01:30:21,627 --> 01:30:23,787
Speaker 5: of confidence. I suppose, as I say, over the last

1796
01:30:23,827 --> 01:30:26,787
Speaker 5: twelve eighteen months, he's probably you know, he's taken over

1797
01:30:26,867 --> 01:30:29,787
Speaker 5: that mantle as the as the leading bowler and all

1798
01:30:29,867 --> 01:30:32,987
Speaker 5: three formats of New Zealand, you know pretty much. So, yeah,

1799
01:30:33,227 --> 01:30:35,947
Speaker 5: at the at the peak of his powers, and hopefully

1800
01:30:35,987 --> 01:30:37,907
Speaker 5: he's got another good performance listed him today.

1801
01:30:38,067 --> 01:30:40,947
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Corle Jamison also picked up some Willkets three for

1802
01:30:41,067 --> 01:30:43,787
Speaker 2: him as he back to full footness. Now, Peter, will

1803
01:30:43,827 --> 01:30:45,027
Speaker 2: he play a red bull cricket for you?

1804
01:30:46,587 --> 01:30:48,067
Speaker 5: I don't think you play. I don't think you played

1805
01:30:48,107 --> 01:30:49,147
Speaker 5: red bull cricket this season.

1806
01:30:50,147 --> 01:30:50,307
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1807
01:30:50,347 --> 01:30:54,027
Speaker 5: Look, he's fully he's fully fit. But he's obviously only

1808
01:30:54,067 --> 01:30:56,267
Speaker 5: bowling four overs four overs in a match.

1809
01:30:56,067 --> 01:30:56,947
Speaker 12: At a time at the moment.

1810
01:30:57,067 --> 01:30:59,267
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think it's I think his plan is

1811
01:30:59,347 --> 01:31:01,987
Speaker 5: to is to try and sort of keep keep building

1812
01:31:02,067 --> 01:31:04,907
Speaker 5: up through Ford Trophy and you know, with an eye

1813
01:31:04,947 --> 01:31:07,827
Speaker 5: on being available for those for those white ball matches

1814
01:31:07,867 --> 01:31:10,347
Speaker 5: against Pakistan when the black Caps get back from Champions

1815
01:31:10,347 --> 01:31:11,987
Speaker 5: Trophy and with the bat.

1816
01:31:12,067 --> 01:31:14,347
Speaker 2: Matt Boyle top scored for you again yesterday forty eight

1817
01:31:14,387 --> 01:31:16,587
Speaker 2: off twenty five, closing in on four hundred runs for

1818
01:31:16,627 --> 01:31:19,267
Speaker 2: the season. Now top run scorer in the camp. He

1819
01:31:19,387 --> 01:31:22,427
Speaker 2: striking it up over one fifty. Why has he been

1820
01:31:22,467 --> 01:31:23,747
Speaker 2: so effective for you this summer?

1821
01:31:25,747 --> 01:31:25,907
Speaker 4: Oh?

1822
01:31:26,067 --> 01:31:27,827
Speaker 5: Look, I mean he's got he's got I guess, a

1823
01:31:27,867 --> 01:31:29,947
Speaker 5: full full of sort of a ray of shots. He

1824
01:31:29,987 --> 01:31:31,547
Speaker 5: can score off the back foot, he can score off

1825
01:31:31,587 --> 01:31:35,227
Speaker 5: the front foot. He can you know, he can they

1826
01:31:35,307 --> 01:31:38,467
Speaker 5: spin well. So he's always had that talent. He's a

1827
01:31:38,547 --> 01:31:40,747
Speaker 5: prolific run scorer sort of all through high school and

1828
01:31:40,867 --> 01:31:43,907
Speaker 5: underage cricket, taking him a couple of years at this

1829
01:31:44,027 --> 01:31:47,387
Speaker 5: level just to find his feet and work a few

1830
01:31:47,427 --> 01:31:49,907
Speaker 5: things out. But yeah, he's in He's in some great

1831
01:31:49,987 --> 01:31:53,307
Speaker 5: form at the moment. His confidence is really high, and yeah,

1832
01:31:53,467 --> 01:31:55,387
Speaker 5: just really pleased for him for the amount of work

1833
01:31:55,427 --> 01:31:57,147
Speaker 5: he's done in the struggles he's had to go through,

1834
01:31:57,587 --> 01:31:59,347
Speaker 5: you know, during the initial sort of year or two

1835
01:31:59,347 --> 01:31:59,827
Speaker 5: of his career.

1836
01:32:00,307 --> 01:32:02,707
Speaker 2: What were they? What have you helped him with? Particularly?

1837
01:32:02,827 --> 01:32:05,467
Speaker 2: What what's you know, as a has a light bulb

1838
01:32:05,507 --> 01:32:07,627
Speaker 2: turned on? What's happened to him to allow him to

1839
01:32:07,707 --> 01:32:10,627
Speaker 2: go from struggling to now, you know, thriving.

1840
01:32:11,947 --> 01:32:13,747
Speaker 5: I think probably just the mental side of the game.

1841
01:32:14,307 --> 01:32:17,587
Speaker 5: You know, there's there's different pressures that I guess are

1842
01:32:18,147 --> 01:32:20,707
Speaker 5: put on you externally and also that you put on

1843
01:32:20,787 --> 01:32:23,307
Speaker 5: yourself when you first, I suppose, you know, become a

1844
01:32:23,347 --> 01:32:26,107
Speaker 5: contracted player and you know you sort of have that

1845
01:32:26,267 --> 01:32:30,027
Speaker 5: label of a professional cricketer. So yeah, he's probably just

1846
01:32:30,707 --> 01:32:32,467
Speaker 5: growing up a little bit over the last couple of years.

1847
01:32:32,507 --> 01:32:35,627
Speaker 5: He's matured, he's worked out you know, how he wants

1848
01:32:35,707 --> 01:32:38,947
Speaker 5: to play, you know, and also the tempo at which

1849
01:32:38,987 --> 01:32:40,747
Speaker 5: he needs to back. So yeah, like I said, the

1850
01:32:40,787 --> 01:32:42,827
Speaker 5: mental side of the game, he's made some big improvements

1851
01:32:44,147 --> 01:32:45,667
Speaker 5: and like I said, I'm sure he's gonna have a

1852
01:32:45,987 --> 01:32:47,107
Speaker 5: really big future in the game.

1853
01:32:47,307 --> 01:32:49,147
Speaker 2: That's his brother Jack in the CD side, isn't it.

1854
01:32:49,187 --> 01:32:50,867
Speaker 2: How do you think his parents or their parents support

1855
01:32:50,907 --> 01:32:51,707
Speaker 2: on a day like today?

1856
01:32:53,067 --> 01:32:54,227
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not too sure.

1857
01:32:54,307 --> 01:32:55,027
Speaker 12: I'm not too sure.

1858
01:32:55,067 --> 01:32:58,147
Speaker 5: I mean the dad Justin played for he played first

1859
01:32:58,187 --> 01:33:01,267
Speaker 5: class cricket for Cannery and Wellington. Yeah, and their uncle

1860
01:33:01,387 --> 01:33:03,867
Speaker 5: David played for Cannerbry as well. So I mean, you're

1861
01:33:03,947 --> 01:33:05,947
Speaker 5: just I suppose you put two and two together and

1862
01:33:06,387 --> 01:33:07,867
Speaker 5: I'd have to be supporting academ wouldn't they.

1863
01:33:08,507 --> 01:33:12,067
Speaker 2: Well, I presume. So look, I presume. So loo's look

1864
01:33:12,107 --> 01:33:13,747
Speaker 2: at the season as a whole. You lost four of

1865
01:33:13,827 --> 01:33:16,707
Speaker 2: your first five T twenty games. What was the problem

1866
01:33:16,787 --> 01:33:17,107
Speaker 2: early on?

1867
01:33:19,867 --> 01:33:22,947
Speaker 5: Look, I think the first two games in particular, we

1868
01:33:23,067 --> 01:33:24,987
Speaker 5: were we were in winning positions to win both and

1869
01:33:25,427 --> 01:33:26,987
Speaker 5: you know, we threw it away probably in the last

1870
01:33:27,187 --> 01:33:31,547
Speaker 5: five or six overs. You know about betting and so yeah,

1871
01:33:31,827 --> 01:33:34,427
Speaker 5: at one stage there was the back end it looked

1872
01:33:34,467 --> 01:33:36,987
Speaker 5: like those those games we're gonna we're going to probably

1873
01:33:36,987 --> 01:33:39,907
Speaker 5: come back to buy this, you know. But we started

1874
01:33:39,947 --> 01:33:41,667
Speaker 5: playing some really good cricket at the back end, and

1875
01:33:42,027 --> 01:33:43,987
Speaker 5: look we had some we're a little bit of good

1876
01:33:44,027 --> 01:33:47,387
Speaker 5: fortune with with CD beating Auckland and then a rain out.

1877
01:33:47,467 --> 01:33:50,907
Speaker 5: So well, I suppose that's the swings and roundabout for

1878
01:33:50,947 --> 01:33:53,827
Speaker 5: cricket last year at this time of the season. You know,

1879
01:33:53,947 --> 01:33:57,467
Speaker 5: we we got, you know, we got we got the

1880
01:33:57,587 --> 01:33:59,187
Speaker 5: rough end of the stick with the weather and with

1881
01:33:59,307 --> 01:34:02,387
Speaker 5: the final at Eaton Park. So yeah, like I said, hopefully,

1882
01:34:03,067 --> 01:34:05,547
Speaker 5: hopefully we'll do a little bit of luck and we've

1883
01:34:05,587 --> 01:34:08,627
Speaker 5: managed to suppose this far. You take take it with

1884
01:34:08,707 --> 01:34:09,147
Speaker 5: both hands.

1885
01:34:09,587 --> 01:34:11,467
Speaker 2: Something you've had to deal with, and in fact a

1886
01:34:11,547 --> 01:34:13,267
Speaker 2: lot of coaches have to have to deal with, is

1887
01:34:13,307 --> 01:34:16,827
Speaker 2: the reintegration of your black Caps players back into your side.

1888
01:34:17,067 --> 01:34:19,067
Speaker 2: How do you go about that, Peter in terms of

1889
01:34:19,187 --> 01:34:22,267
Speaker 2: you know, I guess guys who have been there for you,

1890
01:34:22,387 --> 01:34:25,427
Speaker 2: but but no that they're probably going to drop out

1891
01:34:25,467 --> 01:34:27,867
Speaker 2: when when somebody from the black Caps comes back in.

1892
01:34:29,187 --> 01:34:30,827
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it's not easy.

1893
01:34:31,667 --> 01:34:34,787
Speaker 5: I suppose, you know, for us, we sort of talk

1894
01:34:34,827 --> 01:34:36,867
Speaker 5: about it at the start of each season and that's

1895
01:34:36,947 --> 01:34:40,467
Speaker 5: just the reality. I mean, the guys, the guys are

1896
01:34:40,507 --> 01:34:43,107
Speaker 5: not silly. They can they can look at the domestic schedule,

1897
01:34:43,147 --> 01:34:45,347
Speaker 5: they can look at the international schedule and they can

1898
01:34:45,387 --> 01:34:48,147
Speaker 5: work it out for themselves, you know, when certain guys

1899
01:34:48,227 --> 01:34:52,587
Speaker 5: might be available. So look at philosophy here is obviously,

1900
01:34:52,747 --> 01:34:54,627
Speaker 5: when the black cap guys come back, they play. That's

1901
01:34:54,707 --> 01:34:57,387
Speaker 5: just even if it's for one game, that's you know,

1902
01:34:57,547 --> 01:35:00,867
Speaker 5: that's just that's just how it is. And we're just

1903
01:35:00,947 --> 01:35:02,787
Speaker 5: I suppose we're lucky that the guys that do come

1904
01:35:02,827 --> 01:35:06,227
Speaker 5: back from international cricket, you know, when when they come back,

1905
01:35:06,787 --> 01:35:08,827
Speaker 5: are normally really keen to play and to try and

1906
01:35:09,107 --> 01:35:10,427
Speaker 5: you know, pitch in and do their bit.

1907
01:35:11,387 --> 01:35:13,107
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this. I checked this this morning. The

1908
01:35:13,147 --> 01:35:15,667
Speaker 2: last time Canibry won the domestic T twenty men's camp

1909
01:35:15,787 --> 01:35:19,067
Speaker 2: was the summer of five six. You were on the team. Then,

1910
01:35:19,747 --> 01:35:21,747
Speaker 2: has this piece of silver? We're being a target for you?

1911
01:35:23,347 --> 01:35:26,547
Speaker 12: Oh, they're all, they're all a target. Yeah.

1912
01:35:26,547 --> 01:35:29,467
Speaker 5: I suppose the T twenty one is probably in some

1913
01:35:29,627 --> 01:35:32,747
Speaker 5: ways as the it's the possibly the hardest to win

1914
01:35:32,827 --> 01:35:36,347
Speaker 5: because it's the most the games, the most fickle, you know,

1915
01:35:36,507 --> 01:35:38,627
Speaker 5: and a couple of good overs here or there, or

1916
01:35:38,627 --> 01:35:40,547
Speaker 5: a couple of good balls here or there can decide

1917
01:35:41,067 --> 01:35:44,067
Speaker 5: can decide the game. Yeah, we've we've done really well

1918
01:35:44,147 --> 01:35:47,187
Speaker 5: the last few years. We've made finals, and you know,

1919
01:35:47,307 --> 01:35:50,747
Speaker 5: we've either been beaten on the day by an individual

1920
01:35:50,787 --> 01:35:53,707
Speaker 5: innings or like I said, last year, the weather sort

1921
01:35:53,787 --> 01:35:56,227
Speaker 5: of you know, caused us to come unstuck.

1922
01:35:56,307 --> 01:35:58,027
Speaker 12: So yeah, looking to.

1923
01:35:58,067 --> 01:36:01,907
Speaker 5: Be obviously nice to to want to be twenty comp

1924
01:36:01,947 --> 01:36:04,587
Speaker 5: and sort of get that monkey off the back. But yeah,

1925
01:36:04,707 --> 01:36:06,827
Speaker 5: I sort of feel like we're we're coming into this

1926
01:36:06,907 --> 01:36:08,747
Speaker 5: one out of all of them, probably with the least

1927
01:36:08,787 --> 01:36:11,947
Speaker 5: amount of pressure because yeah, ten days ago, probably no

1928
01:36:11,987 --> 01:36:13,387
Speaker 5: one thought we were going to be in the Semis,

1929
01:36:14,507 --> 01:36:16,827
Speaker 5: and probably some of the other teams. We're probably pretty

1930
01:36:16,867 --> 01:36:18,827
Speaker 5: pretty glad about that given the given the side we

1931
01:36:18,947 --> 01:36:20,667
Speaker 5: were going to have come this time of the competition.

1932
01:36:21,027 --> 01:36:22,747
Speaker 2: You do you reckon your favorites for this game?

1933
01:36:24,787 --> 01:36:25,627
Speaker 12: Oh, I don't know.

1934
01:36:25,667 --> 01:36:27,787
Speaker 5: I mean CD CD have had a really good season.

1935
01:36:27,907 --> 01:36:30,867
Speaker 5: I've they've won had two runouts and won six of

1936
01:36:30,907 --> 01:36:33,267
Speaker 5: the eight games. So they're playing some really good cricket

1937
01:36:33,307 --> 01:36:35,627
Speaker 5: and they've got they've got plenty of guys in their

1938
01:36:35,667 --> 01:36:37,907
Speaker 5: team that have you know, played a high level cricket too.

1939
01:36:38,067 --> 01:36:41,147
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean it doesn't it doesn't really make

1940
01:36:41,187 --> 01:36:44,667
Speaker 5: any difference to us. I said, we know that, you know,

1941
01:36:45,067 --> 01:36:46,747
Speaker 5: we know that most of the country probably don't want

1942
01:36:46,787 --> 01:36:48,627
Speaker 5: us to win, so we're we're hoping to disappoint a

1943
01:36:48,627 --> 01:36:49,027
Speaker 5: few people.

1944
01:36:49,147 --> 01:36:50,987
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure that's not true.

1945
01:36:52,187 --> 01:36:58,027
Speaker 5: That's not true, faults, But that's definitely true.

1946
01:36:58,947 --> 01:36:59,267
Speaker 12: All right.

1947
01:36:59,307 --> 01:37:01,427
Speaker 2: Well, as you mentioned a couple of times, I made

1948
01:37:01,467 --> 01:37:04,107
Speaker 2: the final last year, abandoned due to rain Auklamanic because

1949
01:37:04,107 --> 01:37:07,227
Speaker 2: they finished top. How's the forecasting in Wellington today?

1950
01:37:08,587 --> 01:37:11,027
Speaker 5: No, it looks okay, It looks okay. Yesterday there was

1951
01:37:11,347 --> 01:37:13,107
Speaker 5: walk of a few showers in the afternoon, but they

1952
01:37:13,147 --> 01:37:16,667
Speaker 5: never materialized. So yeah, I think I think we should

1953
01:37:16,667 --> 01:37:17,267
Speaker 5: be okay, though.

1954
01:37:17,667 --> 01:37:19,387
Speaker 2: Good man, Hey, all the best. Better, great to chat

1955
01:37:19,427 --> 01:37:21,907
Speaker 2: to yours always cheers, fiddy, Thanks mate, No, thank you,

1956
01:37:21,987 --> 01:37:24,987
Speaker 2: may that's better. Faulton coach of Canterbury. Apparently everybody wants

1957
01:37:25,067 --> 01:37:28,107
Speaker 2: Central to win. Well, Like I said, I'm not sure

1958
01:37:28,147 --> 01:37:29,947
Speaker 2: that's true. I think Cannaburry our favorite. You look at

1959
01:37:29,947 --> 01:37:33,187
Speaker 2: that team, they're stacked, absolutely stacked full of black Caps players,

1960
01:37:34,547 --> 01:37:37,067
Speaker 2: you know. But CD have been very, very good right

1961
01:37:37,107 --> 01:37:41,227
Speaker 2: across the season, some excellent players. Jack Boyle's been terrific

1962
01:37:41,347 --> 01:37:43,907
Speaker 2: for them. Tom Bruce as well. We spoke to Jayden Lennox,

1963
01:37:43,987 --> 01:37:48,347
Speaker 2: yesterday has been excellent with the ball. Yeah, oh well

1964
01:37:48,347 --> 01:37:49,627
Speaker 2: it was because they put up a fight. It'll be

1965
01:37:49,667 --> 01:37:52,787
Speaker 2: a great scrap between those two four twenty five this afternoon,

1966
01:37:52,907 --> 01:37:54,827
Speaker 2: following the women's final, which is on at the moment.

1967
01:37:55,307 --> 01:37:57,947
Speaker 2: The Otago sparks thirteen without loss in the third over,

1968
01:37:58,027 --> 01:38:02,187
Speaker 2: so they've negotiated things pretty well. Bella James and Susie Bates.

1969
01:38:02,467 --> 01:38:04,907
Speaker 2: They're only chasing one hundred and five to win this

1970
01:38:04,987 --> 01:38:07,227
Speaker 2: game against the Blaze, so they don't have to go

1971
01:38:08,187 --> 01:38:10,507
Speaker 2: hellful leather from the start. They just have to stay safe.

1972
01:38:10,547 --> 01:38:13,627
Speaker 2: And just as I say that, Susie bats ramps one

1973
01:38:13,707 --> 01:38:15,907
Speaker 2: down to fine leg. We'll keep eyes on that for you.

1974
01:38:16,107 --> 01:38:18,787
Speaker 2: Men's final underweight at four twenty five. It is two

1975
01:38:19,027 --> 01:38:21,507
Speaker 2: twenty two. It's take a break, come back and talk

1976
01:38:21,627 --> 01:38:23,227
Speaker 2: some Six Nations Rugby.

1977
01:38:24,907 --> 01:38:29,707
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1978
01:38:29,907 --> 01:38:33,387
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1979
01:38:33,547 --> 01:38:34,827
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1980
01:38:34,747 --> 01:38:37,187
Speaker 2: Two twenty four just on the t twenty Men's final

1981
01:38:37,227 --> 01:38:39,667
Speaker 2: from Robbie Yet that is true. I'm from Otago, Go

1982
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:42,707
Speaker 2: the stacks. Thanks Robbie. Musci's no pinty, that is true.

1983
01:38:43,347 --> 01:38:46,667
Speaker 2: Anyone at Canterbury, Well, I feel I feel like it's

1984
01:38:46,747 --> 01:38:52,787
Speaker 2: not as vigorous our our anyone but Canterbury feeling our

1985
01:38:53,027 --> 01:38:57,067
Speaker 2: ABC feeling in cricket. I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong.

1986
01:38:58,947 --> 01:39:00,947
Speaker 2: I know that often when it comes to rugby we

1987
01:39:01,107 --> 01:39:04,307
Speaker 2: revel in the fact that people beat Canterbury or the Crusaders.

1988
01:39:04,347 --> 01:39:05,827
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's the same in cricket. Maybe it

1989
01:39:05,947 --> 01:39:08,947
Speaker 2: is a second half Blitt's meantime, by Ireland has earned

1990
01:39:08,987 --> 01:39:11,467
Speaker 2: them a twenty seven twenty two went over England in

1991
01:39:11,507 --> 01:39:13,867
Speaker 2: their Six Nations rugby clash in Dublin. A little bit

1992
01:39:13,947 --> 01:39:15,867
Speaker 2: slow getting to them, but it is there now.

1993
01:39:17,987 --> 01:39:23,987
Speaker 28: Don't she great? Down from the hooker to jamesaw Islands.

1994
01:39:24,467 --> 01:39:26,547
Speaker 28: I've got the Finnish ship road here?

1995
01:39:32,747 --> 01:39:34,067
Speaker 31: What the island of Bowles?

1996
01:39:34,547 --> 01:39:34,747
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1997
01:39:34,747 --> 01:39:36,507
Speaker 2: They trailed ten to five at half time, but the

1998
01:39:36,587 --> 01:39:40,347
Speaker 2: Irish then scored twenty two unanswered points before too late

1999
01:39:40,427 --> 01:39:43,747
Speaker 2: tries from England closed the score line up. Scotland meantime

2000
01:39:43,787 --> 01:39:47,027
Speaker 2: have overcome. It's at least thirty one nineteen in Murrayfield.

2001
01:39:47,067 --> 01:39:51,627
Speaker 2: And yesterday, of course, France demolished Wales forty three nil.

2002
01:39:52,227 --> 01:39:54,667
Speaker 2: Let's bring in rugby commentator and journalists based in the

2003
01:39:54,747 --> 01:39:57,747
Speaker 2: UK Martin, Gillingham, Martin, thanks for joining us on weekend sport.

2004
01:39:57,827 --> 01:40:01,307
Speaker 2: Let's start with Ireland twenty seven England twenty two. Once

2005
01:40:01,427 --> 01:40:03,907
Speaker 2: Ireland did get their noses in front in the fifty

2006
01:40:04,027 --> 01:40:06,467
Speaker 2: sixth minute, did you feel us though they always the

2007
01:40:06,507 --> 01:40:07,307
Speaker 2: game under control?

2008
01:40:08,547 --> 01:40:11,867
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean I got the impression really that. I mean,

2009
01:40:11,907 --> 01:40:14,907
Speaker 21: I felt that Island had it under control. Really after

2010
01:40:14,947 --> 01:40:21,467
Speaker 21: about twenty minutes plucking England defense. We eventually saw the

2011
01:40:21,587 --> 01:40:24,947
Speaker 21: yellow car coming the first half of Marcus Smith, but

2012
01:40:25,067 --> 01:40:28,267
Speaker 21: I felt that England were already on the back foot

2013
01:40:28,347 --> 01:40:32,067
Speaker 21: then be You're absolutely right. I mean, eventually they broke

2014
01:40:32,107 --> 01:40:34,547
Speaker 21: the back of the England defense early in the second

2015
01:40:34,627 --> 01:40:36,907
Speaker 21: half and I think after that there was only one

2016
01:40:36,987 --> 01:40:40,627
Speaker 21: winner and in the end the school line really flattered England.

2017
01:40:40,747 --> 01:40:43,507
Speaker 21: So I mean, let's be frank, I don't think this

2018
01:40:43,707 --> 01:40:47,747
Speaker 21: is quite the quality of Ireland side that we saw

2019
01:40:48,427 --> 01:40:51,867
Speaker 21: two years ago, even going into the World Cup, which

2020
01:40:52,027 --> 01:40:54,627
Speaker 21: was a huge disappointment to them. So I think it's

2021
01:40:54,627 --> 01:40:57,347
Speaker 21: an Island side which has its weaknesses, particularly in the

2022
01:40:57,787 --> 01:41:02,747
Speaker 21: front row. They're very short on props and to dispatch

2023
01:41:02,827 --> 01:41:06,027
Speaker 21: England in the end as comfortably as they did. I

2024
01:41:06,147 --> 01:41:08,267
Speaker 21: think that's a great concern to follow us of England.

2025
01:41:08,387 --> 01:41:09,867
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll talk about a little bit more in

2026
01:41:09,867 --> 01:41:12,547
Speaker 2: a moment, But the twenty two point run, the twenty

2027
01:41:12,587 --> 01:41:15,267
Speaker 2: two unanswered points from Ireland between what minutes fifty two

2028
01:41:15,267 --> 01:41:18,627
Speaker 2: and seventy three? Was that good from them or did

2029
01:41:18,667 --> 01:41:21,707
Speaker 2: English eras contribute to that? What was the story of

2030
01:41:21,747 --> 01:41:23,547
Speaker 2: that twenty two point run.

2031
01:41:24,627 --> 01:41:29,347
Speaker 21: Well, I think, like most and I think that Ireland

2032
01:41:29,827 --> 01:41:32,627
Speaker 21: things didn't quite click. I think the air account was

2033
01:41:32,747 --> 01:41:35,387
Speaker 21: quite high in the first half. I don't think they

2034
01:41:35,387 --> 01:41:39,227
Speaker 21: were as clinical as perhaps they could have been. That said,

2035
01:41:39,307 --> 01:41:43,027
Speaker 21: I think the elements of the England defense, which now

2036
01:41:43,187 --> 01:41:46,427
Speaker 21: has has sort of moved on and adopted a different

2037
01:41:46,507 --> 01:41:49,787
Speaker 21: method from the one that Felix Jones, who of course

2038
01:41:50,587 --> 01:41:55,627
Speaker 21: departed the England management just rather under a cloud, and

2039
01:41:55,747 --> 01:41:59,027
Speaker 21: I think that proved pretty effective. But I mean the

2040
01:41:59,107 --> 01:42:04,787
Speaker 21: reality is Ireland started to hit their straps on about

2041
01:42:04,867 --> 01:42:08,827
Speaker 21: sort of fifty minutes something like that, and in the

2042
01:42:09,027 --> 01:42:11,107
Speaker 21: end those two late tries that you talk about from

2043
01:42:11,147 --> 01:42:15,307
Speaker 21: England I think really flattered them. Usually, so I think

2044
01:42:16,227 --> 01:42:19,227
Speaker 21: it's a better Island performance because they were very unconvincing

2045
01:42:19,347 --> 01:42:23,227
Speaker 21: over the November period. I think that you know, there's

2046
01:42:23,267 --> 01:42:26,867
Speaker 21: never anything, you know that there's never a bad New

2047
01:42:26,987 --> 01:42:29,987
Speaker 21: Zealand team. But I don't think, and maybe I'm going

2048
01:42:30,067 --> 01:42:32,467
Speaker 21: to spark a bit of controversy downe in your part

2049
01:42:32,507 --> 01:42:34,707
Speaker 21: of the world at the moment you've not got one

2050
01:42:34,707 --> 01:42:38,547
Speaker 21: of the great All Blacks teams. But to suffer defeat

2051
01:42:39,787 --> 01:42:43,267
Speaker 21: to the All Blacks in November and be unconvincing in

2052
01:42:43,347 --> 01:42:46,827
Speaker 21: the other fixtures I think suggested that this Island team,

2053
01:42:46,987 --> 01:42:50,267
Speaker 21: this Island squad is a little bit over the peak

2054
01:42:50,347 --> 01:42:52,267
Speaker 21: of the hill, which I think it was at going

2055
01:42:52,347 --> 01:42:56,907
Speaker 21: to the World Cup. So I think England have got

2056
01:42:56,947 --> 01:42:59,307
Speaker 21: to look at it in that respect. As for Ireland,

2057
01:42:59,587 --> 01:43:01,987
Speaker 21: certainly a much better performance in the second half is

2058
01:43:02,027 --> 01:43:05,107
Speaker 21: the best we've seen from them now really, I think

2059
01:43:05,747 --> 01:43:09,387
Speaker 21: since they put France to the sword in the first

2060
01:43:09,467 --> 01:43:11,627
Speaker 21: round of the Six Nations Championship last year.

2061
01:43:12,267 --> 01:43:14,907
Speaker 2: Let's talk a bit about England back in the last year.

2062
01:43:14,987 --> 01:43:17,027
Speaker 2: The one over Japan to finish the year, but losses

2063
01:43:17,067 --> 01:43:20,107
Speaker 2: to South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, a couple of

2064
01:43:20,387 --> 01:43:24,067
Speaker 2: narrow losses down here midg Yea. Where do you ascease.

2065
01:43:24,107 --> 01:43:25,467
Speaker 2: Where England are right now?

2066
01:43:26,907 --> 01:43:30,707
Speaker 21: I mean I think in many respects today demonstrated that

2067
01:43:30,787 --> 01:43:34,387
Speaker 21: they're no further forward than they were really almost a

2068
01:43:34,507 --> 01:43:39,027
Speaker 21: year ago. Yes, they came close twice against you guys,

2069
01:43:39,747 --> 01:43:43,027
Speaker 21: but again they came close in November. But it's the

2070
01:43:43,107 --> 01:43:48,107
Speaker 21: inability really in that final half hour to get the

2071
01:43:48,227 --> 01:43:51,227
Speaker 21: job done. And I mean I think today in the

2072
01:43:51,387 --> 01:43:54,427
Speaker 21: end was reasonably emphatic and I know I'm repeating myself

2073
01:43:55,027 --> 01:43:57,947
Speaker 21: despite the school line, they were well well beaten in

2074
01:43:58,027 --> 01:44:01,827
Speaker 21: the end. And Steve Borthwick, I mean, how much longer

2075
01:44:01,987 --> 01:44:07,427
Speaker 21: can the Rugby Football Union you with this? I mean

2076
01:44:07,467 --> 01:44:10,587
Speaker 21: I heard that the target was to win at least

2077
01:44:10,667 --> 01:44:13,027
Speaker 21: four out of five matches in the six Nations and

2078
01:44:13,507 --> 01:44:15,947
Speaker 21: already that's the best they can possibly do and they've

2079
01:44:15,987 --> 01:44:18,427
Speaker 21: got France coming next week. I mean there are a

2080
01:44:18,467 --> 01:44:21,307
Speaker 21: lot of off field distractions at the moment at the

2081
01:44:21,387 --> 01:44:25,147
Speaker 21: Rugby Football Union. With the chief executive Bill Sweeney, it

2082
01:44:25,147 --> 01:44:29,947
Speaker 21: would appear unlikely to keep his job, you know, for

2083
01:44:30,067 --> 01:44:33,907
Speaker 21: much longer than this six Nations will run. So if

2084
01:44:33,947 --> 01:44:38,107
Speaker 21: you have an England side who lose next weekend against France,

2085
01:44:38,227 --> 01:44:44,307
Speaker 21: which I think is likely, I mean, Steve Borthwick really

2086
01:44:44,467 --> 01:44:46,427
Speaker 21: is walking a very fine line.

2087
01:44:46,667 --> 01:44:48,507
Speaker 2: I hadn't caught up with that about Bill Sweeney. Is

2088
01:44:48,987 --> 01:44:52,987
Speaker 2: that tied mainly to the on field performance of the

2089
01:44:53,187 --> 01:44:55,547
Speaker 2: England men's side or are the other factors at play?

2090
01:44:56,467 --> 01:44:58,587
Speaker 21: No, there are other factors at play, and I think

2091
01:44:58,747 --> 01:45:04,067
Speaker 21: the England rugby setup is intensely political. But the reality

2092
01:45:04,267 --> 01:45:08,427
Speaker 21: is that Bill Sweeney is taking a huge salary, including

2093
01:45:08,507 --> 01:45:13,867
Speaker 21: his bonuses, and there is certainly a lot of concern

2094
01:45:13,947 --> 01:45:17,987
Speaker 21: around the clubs who were essentially the RFU are four.

2095
01:45:18,227 --> 01:45:21,147
Speaker 21: They're not just there for the national side. There for

2096
01:45:21,307 --> 01:45:24,227
Speaker 21: the teams that told the clubs that put out six

2097
01:45:24,387 --> 01:45:28,507
Speaker 21: or seven fifteen's at a weekend in all four corners

2098
01:45:28,547 --> 01:45:31,627
Speaker 21: of England, and I think that there's a lot of

2099
01:45:31,707 --> 01:45:36,227
Speaker 21: disquiet about the way it's run. There was inevitably a

2100
01:45:36,267 --> 01:45:38,627
Speaker 21: lot of concern about the amount of money that was

2101
01:45:38,667 --> 01:45:44,547
Speaker 21: spent in losing Eddie Jones, because there was a huge

2102
01:45:44,587 --> 01:45:47,987
Speaker 21: amount of compensation about nine hundred thousand pounds I understand,

2103
01:45:48,627 --> 01:45:51,267
Speaker 21: just to lose Eddie Jones and his team, but then

2104
01:45:51,387 --> 01:45:56,307
Speaker 21: there was almost a similar amount to compensate Lester to

2105
01:45:56,387 --> 01:45:59,907
Speaker 21: get Steve Borthwick and his support to team on board.

2106
01:45:59,947 --> 01:46:00,347
Speaker 20: As well.

2107
01:46:00,547 --> 01:46:04,147
Speaker 21: So I think people are looking at the financial position

2108
01:46:04,227 --> 01:46:09,187
Speaker 21: of the Rugby Football Union, which is not particularly rosy,

2109
01:46:09,707 --> 01:46:12,987
Speaker 21: the amount of money that's been spent, and people are

2110
01:46:13,027 --> 01:46:17,387
Speaker 21: seeing Sweeney's position really and the salary is taking home

2111
01:46:17,467 --> 01:46:23,667
Speaker 21: as a reward for failure. And well, Steve Borthwick can say, look,

2112
01:46:23,747 --> 01:46:25,547
Speaker 21: what goes on in the pitch is very different. But

2113
01:46:25,587 --> 01:46:28,547
Speaker 21: the reality is he reports directly the Sweeney, and Sweeney

2114
01:46:28,627 --> 01:46:31,947
Speaker 21: takes responsibility for the sacking of Eddie Jones and also

2115
01:46:32,067 --> 01:46:36,547
Speaker 21: the appointments Steve Borthwick. So I think Borthwick must and

2116
01:46:36,627 --> 01:46:45,507
Speaker 21: probably does, realize that if Sweeney goes to the scaffold, Borthwick,

2117
01:46:45,587 --> 01:46:48,947
Speaker 21: if he doesn't win four or at the very least

2118
01:46:49,027 --> 01:46:52,267
Speaker 21: three out of five matches, he'll be joining him.

2119
01:46:52,747 --> 01:46:54,947
Speaker 2: We will watch with great interest. Let's take it back

2120
01:46:54,947 --> 01:46:57,907
Speaker 2: twenty four hours. You were there for France against Wales.

2121
01:46:58,547 --> 01:47:01,867
Speaker 2: As you tweeted, nobody doesn't quite like the French. But Martin,

2122
01:47:01,947 --> 01:47:03,427
Speaker 2: what are we going to do about Wales?

2123
01:47:05,627 --> 01:47:06,067
Speaker 12: I don't know.

2124
01:47:06,347 --> 01:47:07,707
Speaker 21: I mean, how long have you got a chat?

2125
01:47:07,987 --> 01:47:10,427
Speaker 2: I mean, I see, I mean.

2126
01:47:14,067 --> 01:47:15,907
Speaker 21: We could go on for twenty four hours and still

2127
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Speaker 21: not arrive at any sort of conclusion. It's a terrible shame.

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Speaker 21: I mean, this is one of the great rugby nations

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Speaker 21: and in microcosm, if there's one thing that sums up

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Speaker 21: at Wales, it's you know, this is the country which

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Speaker 21: is famed for its mythical fly half factory and the

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Speaker 21: bloke they had starting at fly half yesterday is actually

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Speaker 21: a twelve. So I mean, that is where Welsh rugby

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01:47:40,507 --> 01:47:45,067
Speaker 21: is at the moment. It's in deep crisis in very

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Speaker 21: simple terms these days, as it is in England, so

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Speaker 21: many more kids want to play football, the over ball game,

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Speaker 21: rather than rugby football, so they have that challenge. Also

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Speaker 21: we have England praying on Welsh talent and bringing them

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Speaker 21: over to that side of the Seven Bridge, and there

2140
01:48:07,787 --> 01:48:14,587
Speaker 21: are a number of cases of that. The Welsh rugby

2141
01:48:14,707 --> 01:48:19,867
Speaker 21: union had in place ten fifteen years ago, which looked

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Speaker 21: after a lot of emerging talent that doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 21: And again they are short of money. I mean, why

2144
01:48:27,947 --> 01:48:30,987
Speaker 21: why do why do Wales always play an additional game

2145
01:48:31,067 --> 01:48:35,507
Speaker 21: out of the November window for example? They need the

2146
01:48:35,587 --> 01:48:42,147
Speaker 21: money and the regional rugby is not really worked. One

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Speaker 21: of the great things about Welsh rugby historically, with you know,

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Speaker 21: the clubs like Lenette, like Swanseea, like Cardiff, like Newport.

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Speaker 21: Well in the professional era, whilst they exist, they were

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Speaker 21: you know, now they're just basically playing local rugby and

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01:49:00,667 --> 01:49:05,267
Speaker 21: it's for regional clubs who just simply don't attract the

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01:49:05,387 --> 01:49:09,627
Speaker 21: interest in the attend. The Ospreys in Swansea, Yeah they're

2153
01:49:09,627 --> 01:49:15,587
Speaker 21: playing Swansea, but they're not Swansea. The Scarlets playing Clanette,

2154
01:49:16,307 --> 01:49:20,347
Speaker 21: but they're not Clanette. And I go to those grounds

2155
01:49:21,067 --> 01:49:25,907
Speaker 21: and they draw what two three four thousand people for

2156
01:49:26,027 --> 01:49:30,227
Speaker 21: matches and that just simply isn't sustainable. So you've got

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01:49:30,267 --> 01:49:34,507
Speaker 21: the Welsh regents who in the UFC, you know, the

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01:49:34,587 --> 01:49:38,987
Speaker 21: league which has now drawn in the South African franchises. Yeah,

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01:49:39,067 --> 01:49:40,947
Speaker 21: there's a couple of them are doing quite well. I'm

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Speaker 21: talking about the Welsh franchises, the Scarlets and the Cardiff

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Speaker 21: this season, but they're per forming woefully and there wasn't

2162
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Speaker 21: a single Welsh representative in the Champions Cup, which is

2163
01:49:54,627 --> 01:49:59,387
Speaker 21: the elite continental competition. So yeah, I mean, we could

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01:49:59,427 --> 01:50:02,787
Speaker 21: talk forever on the problems of Welsh rugby, but I

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01:50:03,027 --> 01:50:06,987
Speaker 21: suspect it's a big moment coming up on South I'm

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01:50:07,027 --> 01:50:10,427
Speaker 21: going to be there in Rome, up in Italy. It's

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01:50:10,787 --> 01:50:13,347
Speaker 21: going to be outstanding favorites to beat them. And if

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Speaker 21: that happens, well, I think there's every chance that the

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01:50:17,667 --> 01:50:19,747
Speaker 21: Wales will go to the final day of the Six

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Speaker 21: Nations in Cardiff against England, where you may well have

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01:50:24,027 --> 01:50:29,467
Speaker 21: Steve Borthwick playing, you know, playing for his job. Maybey

2172
01:50:29,547 --> 01:50:33,347
Speaker 21: then already be or have waved goodbye to it? I mean,

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01:50:33,387 --> 01:50:36,307
Speaker 21: what is it now? Is it something like now seventeen

2174
01:50:36,347 --> 01:50:38,467
Speaker 21: out of his last twenty five matches he hasn't won.

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01:50:38,787 --> 01:50:40,907
Speaker 21: I mean, this is the man who used to, you know,

2176
01:50:41,107 --> 01:50:46,667
Speaker 21: deliver Grand slams at will, but the serial winner, certainly

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Speaker 21: where Wales is concerned, Warren Gallan has now become a

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Speaker 21: serial loser.

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Speaker 2: Just the word on front they beat Wales and I

2180
01:50:52,427 --> 01:50:54,707
Speaker 2: know it's a low bar. They haven't won the Six

2181
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Speaker 2: Nations since twenty twenty two. What field did you get

2182
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Speaker 2: from the French yesterday?

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Speaker 21: I mean I enjoyed French rugby and I think that

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01:51:06,227 --> 01:51:09,907
Speaker 21: they do perhaps remain favorites to win it this year

2185
01:51:09,947 --> 01:51:11,867
Speaker 21: and even to perform a Grand Slam. I mean that

2186
01:51:12,027 --> 01:51:14,307
Speaker 21: great test is going to be It's going to be

2187
01:51:14,387 --> 01:51:19,227
Speaker 21: Ireland big problem because Raman end to Mac shown a

2188
01:51:19,307 --> 01:51:24,187
Speaker 21: red card on review yesterday. He won't be involved. There's

2189
01:51:24,227 --> 01:51:26,467
Speaker 21: a big call to be made there by Fabian Gualtier.

2190
01:51:27,187 --> 01:51:30,427
Speaker 21: I mean, we hang the bar high for France, and

2191
01:51:30,707 --> 01:51:35,227
Speaker 21: by friend, I don't think they were that good. They

2192
01:51:35,947 --> 01:51:38,867
Speaker 21: there were a lot of flat spots on Friday night

2193
01:51:39,147 --> 01:51:42,987
Speaker 21: in Paris. Yet you know they put what was it

2194
01:51:43,107 --> 01:51:47,707
Speaker 21: forty three points on them, which was a big home

2195
01:51:47,827 --> 01:51:51,627
Speaker 21: win ever against Wales. Didn't quite touch the fifty one

2196
01:51:51,747 --> 01:51:55,147
Speaker 21: nill that they beat Wales by at Wembley Stadium back

2197
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Speaker 21: in nineteen ninety eight. But this is a France side

2198
01:51:59,747 --> 01:52:03,587
Speaker 21: with plenty of injuries, Okay, I mean that's an occupy.

2199
01:52:04,947 --> 01:52:05,187
Speaker 12: Game.

2200
01:52:05,987 --> 01:52:09,107
Speaker 21: But I mean I like them and I think that

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Speaker 21: if they pick Matthias Jaliber, who is an outstanding fly half,

2202
01:52:12,947 --> 01:52:15,747
Speaker 21: if we work on the basis that Raman Ermac is

2203
01:52:15,827 --> 01:52:20,547
Speaker 21: the best ten in the Northern Hemisphere, then Mathias Jaliber,

2204
01:52:20,627 --> 01:52:23,587
Speaker 21: for my money, is the second best. That's how good

2205
01:52:23,627 --> 01:52:29,907
Speaker 21: he is. I mean, I I think France were I

2206
01:52:30,067 --> 01:52:33,627
Speaker 21: give them six out of ten for Friday night's performance.

2207
01:52:33,747 --> 01:52:35,987
Speaker 21: I think there's a lot more to come from them, all.

2208
01:52:35,947 --> 01:52:37,507
Speaker 2: Right, And just a quick word on Scotland, we shall

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Speaker 2: mention them. They normally finish fourth. You reckon I'll finish

2210
01:52:40,107 --> 01:52:40,547
Speaker 2: fourth again.

2211
01:52:43,547 --> 01:52:49,387
Speaker 21: You're being more unkind than me. I think that being

2212
01:52:49,467 --> 01:52:53,867
Speaker 21: without their captain si Tuopolotu, who I mean, he's a

2213
01:52:53,947 --> 01:52:56,307
Speaker 21: man who's you know, got at least one foot in

2214
01:52:56,907 --> 01:53:01,187
Speaker 21: the Southern hemisphere, who really has been a revelation and

2215
01:53:01,307 --> 01:53:03,187
Speaker 21: I think will be going on the Lions tour and

2216
01:53:03,267 --> 01:53:07,147
Speaker 21: will be a Lion starter at twelve again the Wallabies

2217
01:53:07,467 --> 01:53:12,427
Speaker 21: in July. So they are without him. He's a huge loss.

2218
01:53:13,467 --> 01:53:16,787
Speaker 21: Finn Russell though, with the exception of the two Frenchmen,

2219
01:53:16,827 --> 01:53:19,587
Speaker 21: he's certainly at least the next best fly half in

2220
01:53:22,667 --> 01:53:27,867
Speaker 21: in European rugby. Big game for them against Ireland this weekend,

2221
01:53:27,947 --> 01:53:32,787
Speaker 21: I think. I think this weekend is of the three fixtures,

2222
01:53:32,987 --> 01:53:36,347
Speaker 21: the biggest weekend coming up in this Six Nations, no

2223
01:53:36,467 --> 01:53:38,547
Speaker 21: doubt about that. And I give Scotland a bit of

2224
01:53:38,587 --> 01:53:41,187
Speaker 21: a chance. I mean, they again had quite a few

2225
01:53:41,267 --> 01:53:46,467
Speaker 21: flat spots today against Italy, cut the tries up very quickly,

2226
01:53:47,307 --> 01:53:49,387
Speaker 21: then Italy came back into it. But bear in mind

2227
01:53:49,427 --> 01:53:53,747
Speaker 21: I think Italy are a much improved side, So I

2228
01:53:53,827 --> 01:53:56,987
Speaker 21: mean I would give Scotland a chance against the Irish weekend,

2229
01:53:57,067 --> 01:53:59,987
Speaker 21: no doubt this weekend, no doubt about that, playing at Murrayfield,

2230
01:54:00,867 --> 01:54:02,467
Speaker 21: and who knows, I mean if they would have win,

2231
01:54:02,987 --> 01:54:03,707
Speaker 21: they then moved on.

2232
01:54:06,427 --> 01:54:06,747
Speaker 12: England.

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Speaker 21: I think there's every chance will be going into that

2234
01:54:08,827 --> 01:54:11,867
Speaker 21: having lost their first two. I mean, who knows? Could

2235
01:54:11,947 --> 01:54:13,227
Speaker 21: this still be Scotland's year?

2236
01:54:14,427 --> 01:54:16,827
Speaker 2: It is as much as I.

2237
01:54:16,867 --> 01:54:19,747
Speaker 21: Think it's or not, perhaps as much as it's ever been,

2238
01:54:19,827 --> 01:54:23,827
Speaker 21: but certainly in recent seasons you can now I think

2239
01:54:23,947 --> 01:54:27,507
Speaker 21: still make a case for three teams win to win

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Speaker 21: this championship, and they are inevitably the ones who won

2241
01:54:30,467 --> 01:54:30,987
Speaker 21: this weekend.

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01:54:31,907 --> 01:54:34,027
Speaker 2: Always love chatting rugby with you, Mardin, thanks so much

2243
01:54:34,027 --> 01:54:37,027
Speaker 2: for lending us your time and you're insight. Thank you

2244
01:54:37,827 --> 01:54:41,227
Speaker 2: Marlin Gillingham. Their apologies for the slight degeneration of signal

2245
01:54:41,307 --> 01:54:43,627
Speaker 2: between here and the UK. I think you've got most

2246
01:54:43,667 --> 01:54:46,387
Speaker 2: of that though, So wins over weekend one of the

2247
01:54:46,467 --> 01:54:50,707
Speaker 2: six nations for France over Wales, Scotland over Italy and

2248
01:54:50,947 --> 01:54:54,587
Speaker 2: Ireland over England. Nineteen away from three. Updating you from

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Speaker 2: the basin where the sparks are three down Otago thirty

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Speaker 2: three for three or the threes they need seventy two

2251
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Speaker 2: more runs from seventy seven balls with seven it's in hand.

2252
01:55:07,347 --> 01:55:09,987
Speaker 2: It's set to be a close finish there in the

2253
01:55:10,067 --> 01:55:13,027
Speaker 2: women's Super Smash final. We'll take a break. When we

2254
01:55:13,107 --> 01:55:14,667
Speaker 2: come back, we're going to check him with a man

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Speaker 2: who has been running for quite some time. He is

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Speaker 2: aiming to run two hundred and ten kilometers across forty

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01:55:23,987 --> 01:55:27,867
Speaker 2: hours continually to raise money for a very good course.

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01:55:27,947 --> 01:55:30,627
Speaker 2: This is happening in the Nelson Bays region. We'll tell

2259
01:55:30,667 --> 01:55:31,867
Speaker 2: you more about this when we come back.

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Speaker 1: You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred

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Speaker 2: Two forty five. It's Nelson Anniversary weekend and for most

2265
01:55:47,587 --> 01:55:51,507
Speaker 2: that means are relaxing three days, but not for Ed Shuttleworth.

2266
01:55:51,627 --> 01:55:54,307
Speaker 2: He is the CEO of Sport Tasman and throughout this

2267
01:55:54,427 --> 01:55:58,027
Speaker 2: weekend he's been running non stop across the Nelson Bays

2268
01:55:58,107 --> 01:56:01,747
Speaker 2: region to raise money for a brilliant cause. Forty hours straight,

2269
01:56:02,067 --> 01:56:05,667
Speaker 2: two hundred and ten kilometers to raise money for Nelson

2270
01:56:05,867 --> 01:56:10,347
Speaker 2: Tasman Hospice. Ed Shuttleworth as with us. How many k's

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01:56:10,787 --> 01:56:11,947
Speaker 2: have you completed so far?

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01:56:12,227 --> 01:56:15,467
Speaker 31: D Hey, Kira Piney. I'm on Columbus at one hundred

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Speaker 31: and eighty nine, so just about to enter into Wakefield.

2274
01:56:18,187 --> 01:56:21,347
Speaker 31: So set off from Farewell spit three am yesterday and

2275
01:56:21,547 --> 01:56:24,027
Speaker 31: I've got twenty one k left to go. So it's

2276
01:56:24,067 --> 01:56:25,307
Speaker 31: been tough, but feeling good.

2277
01:56:25,627 --> 01:56:27,387
Speaker 2: I was going to say, how are you feeling.

2278
01:56:29,547 --> 01:56:31,827
Speaker 31: Yeah, it's been really hard, really hard emotionally, but it's

2279
01:56:31,827 --> 01:56:35,227
Speaker 31: been special. Just just hundreds and hundreds of the community

2280
01:56:35,267 --> 01:56:39,227
Speaker 31: to come out every single driveway, every single town, and

2281
01:56:39,307 --> 01:56:41,987
Speaker 31: we just talked about, you know, the impacts of hospice

2282
01:56:42,027 --> 01:56:45,267
Speaker 31: across our community. It's been really special. So I'm exhausted,

2283
01:56:45,387 --> 01:56:48,067
Speaker 31: but I feel very, very privileged to support hospice.

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Speaker 2: Was there a part of the run in terms of

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01:56:51,507 --> 01:56:55,227
Speaker 2: the kilometers or or you know, time during the hours

2286
01:56:55,267 --> 01:56:57,547
Speaker 2: and hours you've been running. That was the hardest part.

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01:56:58,827 --> 01:57:03,507
Speaker 31: Doctor ker Hill was definitely hard, and you know, the

2288
01:57:03,627 --> 01:57:06,147
Speaker 31: challenge is trying to not think it's two hundred and ten,

2289
01:57:06,827 --> 01:57:08,867
Speaker 31: is trying to stay present just one step more, one

2290
01:57:08,947 --> 01:57:10,347
Speaker 31: step more. So I had a bit of a wabble

2291
01:57:10,427 --> 01:57:14,027
Speaker 31: at Plumber of seventy. But I had brilliant crew, brilliant

2292
01:57:14,107 --> 01:57:16,427
Speaker 31: friends and family around me. He you know, steadied the

2293
01:57:16,467 --> 01:57:19,787
Speaker 31: ship and yeah, we've got were nearly there. I'm just

2294
01:57:19,827 --> 01:57:21,867
Speaker 31: going to get it done now, just about to arrive

2295
01:57:21,947 --> 01:57:23,787
Speaker 31: in Wakefield where there's a load of people waiting to

2296
01:57:23,867 --> 01:57:25,867
Speaker 31: cheer us in. So it's been beautiful, good stuff.

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01:57:25,867 --> 01:57:27,387
Speaker 2: I know you, I know you want to hang the

2298
01:57:27,427 --> 01:57:29,227
Speaker 2: find out before you get there, but I want to

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01:57:29,267 --> 01:57:30,707
Speaker 2: find a bit out, a bit more about the course.

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01:57:30,747 --> 01:57:33,147
Speaker 2: But have you slipped or not? Have you just run straight?

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01:57:34,067 --> 01:57:34,267
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 31: No, run straight, run straight and straight through. And that

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01:57:37,147 --> 01:57:40,267
Speaker 31: was the objective. And the run came about because Hospice

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01:57:40,307 --> 01:57:42,387
Speaker 31: look after two hundred and ten patients a month and

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01:57:42,507 --> 01:57:44,507
Speaker 31: the region goes out right through to Golden Bays, a

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01:57:44,587 --> 01:57:46,347
Speaker 31: farewell spit. So I thought, if I start fair, we

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01:57:46,467 --> 01:57:49,147
Speaker 31: spit visit all their medical centers. Run two hundred and

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01:57:49,187 --> 01:57:51,787
Speaker 31: ten k, it'll be beautiful. And we've raised about fifty

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01:57:51,867 --> 01:57:54,467
Speaker 31: thousand the goals two hundred and ten. We'll still collect

2310
01:57:54,507 --> 01:57:57,427
Speaker 31: the money in every few minutes and if you people

2311
01:57:57,467 --> 01:57:59,667
Speaker 31: want to donate, please go to two hundred and ten

2312
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Speaker 31: Reasons to Run on Facebook or two hundred and ten

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01:58:01,707 --> 01:58:03,187
Speaker 31: reasons to run on our Raizorley site.

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Speaker 2: I'll be cheering you on mate. I've got the tracker on.

2315
01:58:05,867 --> 01:58:07,867
Speaker 2: I can see exactly where you are. I can picture

2316
01:58:07,907 --> 01:58:10,867
Speaker 2: you getting stronger over the next twenty one k. Ed,

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01:58:11,507 --> 01:58:14,267
Speaker 2: fantastic what you're doing, mate, So yeah, keep it up

2318
01:58:14,307 --> 01:58:16,507
Speaker 2: and thanks thanks for stopping it for a chat.

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01:58:17,307 --> 01:58:18,787
Speaker 12: Thanks for your support. Really appreciate it.

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01:58:18,867 --> 01:58:20,547
Speaker 2: All the best, all the best, mate, Take it easy.

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01:58:20,987 --> 01:58:25,827
Speaker 2: Ed Shuttleworth there, that's mental men, that's crazy stuff. Two

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01:58:25,987 --> 01:58:28,787
Speaker 2: hundred and ten kilometers, so yeah, two hundred and ten

2323
01:58:28,947 --> 01:58:32,187
Speaker 2: reasons to run. You can find out more on Facebook.

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01:58:32,507 --> 01:58:36,187
Speaker 2: That's Ed's Facebook page raising money for a terrific cause,

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Speaker 2: Nelson Tasman Hospice starting at Farewell Spit and for those

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01:58:40,027 --> 01:58:42,347
Speaker 2: who know the Nelson Bays region, that means you got

2327
01:58:42,387 --> 01:58:44,867
Speaker 2: to come over the Tarkaka Hill and as he just said,

2328
01:58:44,907 --> 01:58:46,907
Speaker 2: that was one of the toughest bits he's going to

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Speaker 2: end up at the hospice. Two hundred and ten kilometers

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Speaker 2: forty hours of straight running. Absolutely incredible stuff from a

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Speaker 2: stand up bloke. Ed Shuttleworth, well known in the Nelson

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Speaker 2: Regent as CEO of Sport Tasman. Just on twelve away

2333
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Speaker 2: from three. I want to circle back to Chris Wood

2334
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Speaker 2: to finish, because earlier today, in the early hours of

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Speaker 2: this morning, he scored a hat trick for Nottingham Forest

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Speaker 2: and then went over Brighton. He was briefly up for

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Speaker 2: media afterwards. I just wanted to play this because it

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01:59:16,227 --> 01:59:20,267
Speaker 2: just shows the utter humility of Chris Wood and how

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01:59:20,387 --> 01:59:23,227
Speaker 2: humble he is and deflecting praise. Here he is after

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Speaker 2: the game, having just scored a hat trick in a

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01:59:25,747 --> 01:59:29,307
Speaker 2: seven zierl win, alongside his teammate Anthony Elanger.

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Speaker 18: Look, yeah, superb. I mean, it's what a difference a

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01:59:32,427 --> 01:59:35,747
Speaker 18: week you make, donand Dumbs. After last week there wasn't

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01:59:35,747 --> 01:59:38,107
Speaker 18: good enough from us. It wasn't us, it didn't seem

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01:59:38,187 --> 01:59:40,147
Speaker 18: like us. But today it was definitely us.

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Speaker 23: Anthony. Was it important to show that that defeat last

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01:59:43,667 --> 01:59:45,587
Speaker 23: week was just a one off, just a freak result.

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Speaker 7: Nah, It's just about the attitude from the lads. We

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Speaker 7: wanted to start the game on the front foot, and

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01:59:50,187 --> 01:59:51,667
Speaker 7: I think we did. I think we had three goals

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Speaker 7: in the first half and I said to the latter

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01:59:53,587 --> 01:59:55,147
Speaker 7: a half time, let's keep going for more. Let's keep

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01:59:55,147 --> 01:59:57,107
Speaker 7: going for more. We're not hope that last week. We

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01:59:57,147 --> 01:59:58,747
Speaker 7: want to meet short Branton for the same.

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Speaker 23: Not just any hat trick for you today, Chris, you're

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Speaker 23: the first Forest player to score a hat trick in

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Speaker 23: the top flight here at the City Ground since Nigel

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Speaker 23: Club in nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 32: That's special.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's special. I mean it's all credit to the team.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's learning.

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Speaker 18: He puts on a plate for me which makes my

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02:00:15,547 --> 02:00:18,387
Speaker 18: life for Hall of a Lot easier and then more's

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02:00:18,387 --> 02:00:20,587
Speaker 18: getting a pin for the hat trick. So it's fantastic.

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Speaker 18: I mean the boys have done superb showed great characters

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Speaker 18: to come back from last week.

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Speaker 12: And that's what we're about.

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Speaker 23: A hat trick of your own today as well as me,

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Speaker 23: a hat trick of assists. I know you don't get

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Speaker 23: the match fall for that, but as a winger that

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02:00:31,347 --> 02:00:31,667
Speaker 23: must be.

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Speaker 21: Just as good as feeling as as this.

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Speaker 7: And I think at the end you could probably see

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Speaker 7: me keep unning because I wanted to go at the end,

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02:00:37,347 --> 02:00:39,667
Speaker 7: but nah, I said to Chris the half time, let's

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02:00:39,667 --> 02:00:41,507
Speaker 7: just keep ushering for more and might be got the

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02:00:41,867 --> 02:00:44,987
Speaker 7: patrick of goals and honestly, multipoint thing for me is

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Speaker 7: to win, and we did that.

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Speaker 23: Today's He's assisted you ten times in the Premier League

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Speaker 23: since the start of last season. I think it's about

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Speaker 23: time you return the favor, Chris.

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Speaker 18: Look, he's very good at that. We know the relationship

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Speaker 18: we have. We've got that bond, We've got that connection

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Speaker 18: and as I say, he does superbly for me and

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Speaker 18: it shows in the statistics and it was outstanding today.

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Speaker 18: I mean, a hatrick of assess never goes unnoticed andes

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Speaker 18: and just.

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Speaker 23: Finally, guys, I know the club are aiming to qualify

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Speaker 23: for Europe for the first time in thirty years. With

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Speaker 23: every win, does that dream just feel that little bit closer.

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Speaker 7: It's all about taking a game back game. You know,

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02:01:20,027 --> 02:01:22,427
Speaker 7: we can't let we can't go. We can't be complex,

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02:01:22,507 --> 02:01:24,827
Speaker 7: and we just gotta keep working hard and just continue

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02:01:24,867 --> 02:01:26,747
Speaker 7: to love pot what talking and just let the funks

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02:01:26,747 --> 02:01:27,467
Speaker 7: continue to believe.

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Speaker 2: That is Anthony Elanga alongside our man Chris Wood. After

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02:01:31,027 --> 02:01:33,587
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forests seven nil win this morning. You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, don't You can see what I mean? When

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Speaker 2: Chris Wood answers the question, it is never about him.

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Speaker 2: Even when he scored a hat trick, he deflects immediately

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Speaker 2: to his teammates. That's just the measure of the man.

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Speaker 2: Nine and a half away from three, the Sparks have

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Speaker 2: lost another work at They're forty seven for four and

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02:01:49,187 --> 02:01:52,747
Speaker 2: the tenth over I need fifty eight off sixty two balls,

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02:01:53,147 --> 02:01:56,987
Speaker 2: four down. This is turning into a very very close

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Speaker 2: contest between the Wellington Blaze, the defending champions, and the

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Speaker 2: Otago Sparks who finished top of the regular season table.

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Speaker 2: You get the feeling this one is coming down to

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Speaker 2: the one night away from three News talks heb.

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Speaker 26: Let's go from the.

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Speaker 1: Track, fields and the court on your home of Sports

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Speaker 2: Anna McDonald for producing the show today and yesterday as well.

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Speaker 2: far as the song to take Us Out today, well,

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's been a miserable old weekend for

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Speaker 2: the Welsh. I feel like the Welsh have had a

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Speaker 2: tough time of things in terms of their rugby. Their

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Speaker 2: lost yesterday to France was their thirteenth in a row

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Speaker 2: and I feel like if you want to cheer up

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Speaker 2: the Welsh people, you just play. But to Tom Jones,

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Speaker 2: I think that's the way that you put smiles on

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Speaker 2: Welsh faces. Andy, your face would suggest you don't agree.

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Speaker 2: But areas Tom Jones taking us out seen tomorrow night iven.

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Speaker 32: Out sat down him more, I've been mad?

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Speaker 5: She love no more?

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Speaker 22: Why sure before come to break down the door? Forgive

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Speaker 22: me delight?

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Speaker 17: Line's getn't take any more. For give me, del Ye

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Speaker 17: could ever take anymore?

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