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Speaker 1: Darcy Watergrave Sports talk hosters with me Darcy.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello Heather, So, what's the problem that we have

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Speaker 2: eighteen yellow cards in the last round of the NRL.

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Speaker 3: They're saying that the NRAL are cracking down at a

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Speaker 3: higher level and telling the referees you've got to watch

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Speaker 3: the head contact because this is not good for our sport.

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Speaker 3: We can't have guys dribbling into a cup at the

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Speaker 3: age of forty, so let's start policing it. And then

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Speaker 3: I said no, not no, not no, It's just like normal.

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Speaker 3: We always do this. Yeah, Bill Harrigan's going to join us.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember Bill Harrigan from back in the days,

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Speaker 3: the healthyen days of rugby league where they'd take heads

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Speaker 3: off freely without even thinking about it. What does Bell

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Speaker 3: reckon one of the best? Well you find out after

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock tonight when he joins us to talk about

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Speaker 3: is a lot of cards. It's a really interesting debate

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Speaker 3: around the fine balance between keeping the punters entertained, the

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Speaker 3: people that pay for the tickets, and the people that

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Speaker 3: pay for their subscription, and then also duty of care

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Speaker 3: for the players too. Because Lee's rapidly going on the

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Speaker 3: line that rugby used to go along where you spend

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Speaker 3: most of your time with you know, your finger up

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Speaker 3: your nose, picking waiting for something to actually happen. Because

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Speaker 3: they're going through replay after replay after replay, after red

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Speaker 3: to the bunker that then they seem players and they

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Speaker 3: bring them back. It's a bit messy. So Bill's going

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Speaker 3: to join us talk about is there actually a solution

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Speaker 3: to this because we need to look after the players' heads,

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Speaker 3: no doubt. But it is a high speed contact sport

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Speaker 3: and you make onooks, what do you do? You break eggs.

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen from time to time. So are

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Speaker 3: they going over the top as far as their policing

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Speaker 3: of head.

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Speaker 2: High problem is though what happened with Rugby. What's frustrating

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Speaker 2: as a viewer with Rugby is that what they're penalizing

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Speaker 2: is often just a mistake. Right, So I'm totally fine

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Speaker 2: if you penalize somebody who has quite deliberately gone for

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Speaker 2: a head high or something like that.

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Speaker 3: But if it's just well, they players sliding into tackles

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Speaker 3: and then they get on report, they get marks for

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Speaker 3: a yell and they we'll.

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Speaker 1: Hold on and that's NRL. Is it the same thing

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Speaker 1: that's happening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they want to have a situation where the

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Speaker 3: referee has that control, but increasing and thinking, well, if

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Speaker 3: it's obvious to them, go for it. If it may

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Speaker 3: have been a slip or I know, and it might

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Speaker 3: have to go, and it might have to go, well

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Speaker 3: just let them deal with it after the game. And

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Speaker 3: of course the argument there as well. If somebody transgresses

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Speaker 3: and they don't get binned and it gets put on report,

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Speaker 3: that means the team they transgress against doesn't get the advantage.

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Speaker 3: But I think if players and teams know that's the

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Speaker 3: way things roll, they'll live with it. Everybody's going to win,

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Speaker 3: anyone's going to lose. So it's a lot though, what

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Speaker 3: do they have like eighteen sending holes over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of bin time. The judiciary an, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to do this, although most of them have

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Speaker 3: pleaded guilty, said yeah right now, and did it give.

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Speaker 1: Me the finn out? Have you seen this combat sport

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Speaker 1: run it?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's not really a combat.

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Speaker 1: This is them just literally running at each other.

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Speaker 3: Yes. The Herald have got a really interesting video where

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Speaker 3: there's an amateur version of it and a guy got

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Speaker 3: cleaned out and he's lying on the ground convulsion. It's

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Speaker 3: really horrible to watch.

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Speaker 1: What do they hit each other with? Which part of

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Speaker 1: the body.

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Speaker 3: The bodies heads, they're not bison, So.

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Speaker 1: It's two vertical people running.

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Speaker 3: At each other trying to get an advantage and tackle

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Speaker 3: you back over again. Now there's a pro version of

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Speaker 3: it that I believe is coming to New Zealand where

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Speaker 3: they've got professional athletes involved.

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Speaker 2: In the point of the sport is to run at

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Speaker 2: each other without breaking speed, full speed, run out each other.

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Speaker 3: Then get the advantage and push the other guy back.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know. I don't know because people are

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Speaker 3: always looking for something to people. Well, remember powerslack powerslap

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Speaker 3: there you go. Guys can kind of defend each other.

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Speaker 1: Broke you.

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Speaker 2: I broke you with you were midst you're saying there's

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Speaker 2: some professionals doing.

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Speaker 3: This while it's coming to town. It's in Australia. I

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Speaker 3: think it's coming to New Zealand as well. But you've

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Speaker 3: got some former NRL athletes lined up who know all

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Speaker 3: about running.

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Speaker 1: Harder people problem as they does death. You know, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what the brain injury.

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Speaker 2: Life is too easy for us. We don't get taken

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Speaker 2: out by wars for the most part anymore. In the

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Speaker 2: in the modern world, we don't really die of hunger

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Speaker 2: or starvation or that many diseases.

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Speaker 3: Very first world of you here, Yes, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people suffer all of that.

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Speaker 1: There's not enough. There's not enough risk in life. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to find it both running into each other.

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Speaker 3: Promoters. It's promoters. How can I make some money? I

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Speaker 3: reckon guys running at each other will be all. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 1: It's a bull rush. Somebody just text and said it's

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Speaker 1: bull rush.

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Speaker 3: Well bullrush, though you won't remember the healthy end days

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Speaker 3: of bull rush. Whereas I went to primary school in

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Speaker 3: the seventeen I used to live on I love bull rush.

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Speaker 3: We used to play piggyback bull rush and the biggest

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Speaker 3: kid in school is my best mate, and I was

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Speaker 3: the smallest kid in school. So we're impossible to bring

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Speaker 3: down because he was so huge and I was so light.

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Speaker 3: We just run straight over people. But the regular bullsh

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Speaker 3: it's a group running at one person, they get tackled.

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Speaker 3: Then it's a group running at three people, then they

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Speaker 3: get tacked. This is just one on one oh Man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Darcy listen, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm constantly surprised, can be Darcy Watergrave, Sports Talk Hoost.

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