1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Is that the other big sporting news of the day. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Dave Brinnie is our new all that coach John Ross. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Morning to you, wandering Luke. There's ends a saga that 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: we don't often see here in New Zealand's coaching changes 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: mid cycle. Are you confidence that Rennie can get the 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: side match fit and time for next year's well come? 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, if I'd been a betting man, I'd have 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: probably gone for Jamie Joseph. We all were quite happy, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: quite happy with the result, Luke. I knew I know 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: Dave Breenie a little bit. My youngest son, Adam was 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: in the when he was a soldier, and Linton he 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: was in the man Or two side and Dave Briennian 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: that's twenty years ago, and Dave Breennie was the coach 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: and I was I had a week bit involvement. He 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: seems to be a guy who's a very good people's person. 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: He's quite an affectionate sort of a guy. But he's 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: a hard ass as well. So there's a good good 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: balance here and I think as man management skills are good. 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: And you've got to realize that this guy has been 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: a professional coach for thirty years now. This is not 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: his first but radio and I think it points points 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: pretty good. 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were pretty insistent on having somebody with that 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: overseas experience, which when he does have he's been with 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: the Wallabies and Wales and of late Japan, so you 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: reckon that really has a waiting. 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: It seems to be important now too, you know, to 28 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: get all that experience in these other places. That's the 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: world has got a lot smaller since you know, buggers 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: like I played, Leach. 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: Hasn't been that long mate. 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: If everybody, but I think I think Dave Rennie he 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: will understand the expectation that's on him now. You know, 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: he understands the legacy. He was very good at the 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: Chiefs bringing them together. I know, prior to him going 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: there they had a bit of a bay of plenty 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: White Kaddo sort of factions and Taranaki were in there 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: as well, and he brought them together. And I think 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: that's what Scott Robinson did as well with the Crusaders. 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: But doing it with the with the all Blacks in 41 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: the New Zealand side is a lot harder because people 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: are different. I mean Auckland people are different to southrond people. Wrong, 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: nothing there's nothing wrong with any of that, but to 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: actually bring that culture together is difficult and I think Reny, 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: from all I can see, has got the ability to 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: do that and that'll be extremely important. 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: We've seen plenty of ex all black coaches over to 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: the Wallabies. Would this be the first time that one 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: of the us come here. 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It's it's just totally it's just 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: a totally different scene. But you know, I think his 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: I think you know Dave and he's got a pretty 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: short he got the short straw. I think with the 54 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Australian said, I might have liked to see him go 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: on ahead, and of course you know, we know it 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: happened Diddy Jones. The whole thing was a bit of 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: a bit of a disaster and I think they've got 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: a got the short end of it. But that won't 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: do him any harm. It's amazing how those tough experiences 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: and losses and things that don't go your way actually 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: add to your resolve and he will be a better 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: person for that. 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Would you expect him to keep some of the same 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: back into coaching staff or as the lights of Jason 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: Ryan going need to find himself a new job as well. 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: I think he's possibly the only one that's got a chance. 67 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: I think that Rennie will bring a new broom, he'll 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: talk to these guys, and that'll be part of the process. 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: He'll have to do that. But I would say that 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: he will clean the show out and he will come 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: with his with his with his own team, and they've 72 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: got to he's got to work that out. You know. 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: I've got a bit of a theory on all these jokers. 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that one of the problems now 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: is that these guys are over coached. You know, the 76 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: days of having one or two coaches, and they don't 77 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: know who, they don't know who to listen to. Everybody's 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: got a different idea, and I think that's that's that's 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: pretty pretty difficult. And the other thing is that players 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: seemed to have fart. And that's to say, you know, 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: we got picked and we had you know, I played 82 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: played the game for quite a long time and I 83 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: don't remember having any input into who was actually coaching side. 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: You were pleased if you got selected and you got 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: old it. But these guys here just appear to have 86 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: a bit too much to say. 87 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: How do you Savia, particularly vocal. Do you think he 88 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: is a shot at skipper. 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing, you know. I mean Scott Barrett. 90 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of respect for Scott Barrett as 91 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: a player, but I don't think he was the man 92 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: for captain and I don't think that helped Scott Robinson much. 93 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: That just doesn't seem to be. And I guess that 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: when you will bring through a new broom and he'll 95 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: have his ideas. But there's not a lot of guys 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: that actually stand out to me as as captains, you know, 97 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: in the old traditional bridal hall sort of days at 98 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: the moment. But who knows, he'll he'll he'll have his 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: ideas and they'll be good. So see what happens.