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Speaker 1: Rugby union about to speed itself up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We've got a trial of new laws that will take

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Speaker 1: effect in the All Blacks clash this weekend continue throughout

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Speaker 1: the Rugby Championship. So thirty second limit to be introduced

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Speaker 1: for scrums and lineouts to be set. The n Z

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Speaker 1: referees bos Chris Pollock as well. It's Chris, very good

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Speaker 1: morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Morning Mike. How are you very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? You like it? Does it make sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We look, it does make sense. We've tried these

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Speaker 2: and through rugby this year we've got a pretty good

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Speaker 2: result of spinning the game up. I think we'll get

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Speaker 2: the same international rugby as the metro officials teams stick

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Speaker 2: to those timings.

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Speaker 1: Is there any difference between Super Rugby and International rugby

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Speaker 1: in terms of setting the scrum or doing a line out?

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Speaker 2: I don't think in international rugby we've stuck to those times,

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Speaker 2: whereas religiously this year and Super week time and then

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Speaker 2: we had our guys accountable to that to make sure

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Speaker 2: that we were sticking to the times. And yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think we've got a lot better outcome, right.

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Speaker 1: Damian McKenzie of course famously pinged on the kick does

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Speaker 1: anyone get pinged on a line out or a scrum?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the theory. If they go over the thirty seconds,

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Speaker 2: they will, it'll be it'll be a free kick.

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Speaker 1: And what's the referees warning? Does it go guys five seconds,

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Speaker 1: watch out tens or whatever?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the referee will make a mark and say

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Speaker 2: chock locks on and then basically they've got thirty seconds

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Speaker 2: to get formed up. And if they're not done on

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Speaker 2: next thirty seconds by Tommy's crouched, then he'll make a decision.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Is harder for the line out to assemble or

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Speaker 1: the scrum?

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Speaker 2: I think they'll both be straightforward. As soon as the

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Speaker 2: balls out, the refereel make a mark and everyone's got

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Speaker 2: to get to it. A line out of time and

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Speaker 2: the same thing, if everybody should be there when he

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Speaker 2: makes the mark for a scrum, we go.

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Speaker 1: How much angst is this hole? There's not enough rugby

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Speaker 1: being played at any given time. How much is ankst

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Speaker 1: driving this whole conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody wants ball and play, whether that be

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Speaker 2: around scrum, whether it be around shots to goal or

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Speaker 2: tier mode decisions. The more actual we can see the

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Speaker 2: bit of the gamers, so that's what's driving a lot

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Speaker 2: of it, and I think we've just lost our way

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, but hopefully getting back

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Chris go Well, appreciate it very much. Chris

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Speaker 1: Pollock referees boss. For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast,

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