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Speaker 1: Now we've had the All Blacks name their side to

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Speaker 1: face England had took in him on Sunday morning our time,

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Speaker 1: Body Barrett starting at first five, Jordiy Barrett's back from injury,

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Speaker 1: and Ethan de Groot has been dropped for failing to

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Speaker 1: meet internal standards. Now Elliot Smith is in England to

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Speaker 1: call the game for US.

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Speaker 2: Hey Elliott, Hey Heather.

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Speaker 1: Do we actually know what Ethan DeGroot has done.

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Speaker 2: We don't know. It's been fairly fin on details from

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Speaker 2: Scott Robertson. I asked him whether it was on field

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Speaker 2: off field. My understanding is that it's an off field indiscretion,

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Speaker 2: but details coming few and far between from the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks and to this point we don't know what Ethan

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Speaker 2: de Groot has done to be stood down for a match.

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Speaker 2: You think back to earlier in the year. Damien McKenzie

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Speaker 2: wasn't stood down for missing the team bus earlier in

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Speaker 2: that trip to San Diego. So, for comparison's sake, Ethan

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Speaker 2: de Groot's missed it on the basis of whatever indiscretion

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Speaker 2: or missive team protocol or standards that he's done on

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Speaker 2: this point, but we don't know exactly what it'll be here,

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Speaker 2: we fit again, We'll available for selection again, I should

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Speaker 2: say for for next week in Dublin.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Boden Barrett taking the number

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Speaker 1: ten jersey from Damian McKenzie. What's happened here?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think this is the right move, to be

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Speaker 2: honest here, the Damien McKenzie's had a real run at

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Speaker 2: ten this year, started the first eight matches of the season.

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Speaker 2: Boden Barrett came in and while they didn't set the

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Speaker 2: world on fire, I thought he was solid in Wellington

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Speaker 2: and perhapskiss gives the All Blacks what they need to

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Speaker 2: steer themselves around the park when they're playing at Twickenham.

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Speaker 2: Kicking game very very important that. It's a strength of

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Speaker 2: Boden Barrett later on in his career, very good tactically

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Speaker 2: and game management wise. He's played more than one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty tests now to this point. He started his career,

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Speaker 2: or started at the starting of his test career, he

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Speaker 2: was playing at ten and sort of back to the

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Speaker 2: future a little bit for Boden Barrett. But I think

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Speaker 2: this is a good move. It just sharpens up the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks attack a little bit. It is a change

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Speaker 2: mid season to goo, actually we're going to change our ten.

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Speaker 2: But I think they've given Damien McKenzie enough rope now

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Speaker 2: this time for a change for the All Blacks.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that these guys are in the slightest

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Speaker 1: concern about Joe Marler and his absolute muckup of the

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Speaker 1: hakker call?

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Speaker 2: Oh, look, I think it all won't wind the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks up necessarily, but they will have noted it. And

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Speaker 2: Scott Rolinson says he's not the kind of coach that

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Speaker 2: will pin things on the dressing room wall, but he

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Speaker 2: did point out that all these players have social media

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Speaker 2: and you wouldn't have been able to escape the talk

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Speaker 2: about Joe Mahler this week. They will have noted it.

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Speaker 2: And look, the hacker is very very important to the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks as part of their DNA. It's it's something

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Speaker 2: really special to them. They do it for themselves. They

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Speaker 2: don't do it for opposition, applause or fans in the

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Speaker 2: cheering on it. They do it for themselves. And you know,

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Speaker 2: while Joe Marl is entitled to his opinion, I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a little bit ill timed, but we have

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Speaker 2: these stories every so often. It seems someone from England

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Speaker 2: will disparage the hacker. Joe Marhler is the person who's

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Speaker 2: thrown out the bait, and the All Blacks have responded

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Speaker 2: to it, but I don't think they would really cared

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Speaker 2: that much. I think it will be noted and they

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Speaker 2: would have moved on. But you know, before kick off,

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Speaker 2: two bits before kickoff on Sunday morning, everyone's going to

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Speaker 2: be looking to see what kind of hark could they

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Speaker 2: do and what kind of English response we get from.

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Speaker 1: It too, right, Elliott, Thanks very much, Elliott Smith, newstalksb

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