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Speaker 3: Hell to get Afternoon. Welcome in to the Sunday edition

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Speaker 3: of Weekend Sport on News Talks V October five. Happy

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Speaker 3: sixty fifth birthday to nineteen eighty seven World Cup winning

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Speaker 3: All Blacks captain now in New Zealand Rugby board chair

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Speaker 3: David Kirk. Happy seventy third to Pakistan cricket legend Imran Kahan,

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Speaker 3: and happy thirty fifth birthday to NFL star Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Pine show producer. Today Bevan Dua. We're talking

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Speaker 3: sport until three. We are going to cover the netball

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Speaker 3: off after one no resolution in the ongoing Dame Noline

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Speaker 3: Toddua saga where to from here? Netble New Zealand CEO

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Speaker 3: Jenny Wiley is on the show straight after the one

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Speaker 3: o'clock New and then New Zealand Netball Players Association Executive

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Speaker 3: manager Steph Bond. Your reaction to this as well so

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Speaker 3: netball for you after one first up though last night's

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Speaker 3: rugby and Perth.

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Speaker 4: That is full time and the All Blacks when there

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Speaker 4: are eleventh straight match over their trans Tasman rivals twenty

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Speaker 3: Fourteen seventy one Test All Blacks front rower Wyatt Crockett

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Speaker 3: standing by to give us his analysis, the postgame thoughts

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Speaker 3: of head coach Scott Robertson and standout center who knew

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Speaker 3: he was a center? Quinn to pire. Plenty of time

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Speaker 3: for your calls and feedback as well. Lines open immediately

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Speaker 3: as the All Blacks are our focus to start the

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Speaker 3: show what you saw last night and now we can

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Speaker 3: assess where the All Blacks are following the Rugby Championship

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Speaker 3: and ahead of the Northern Tour stand out players things

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Speaker 3: to furrow your brow? Have they improved and where are

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Speaker 3: the growth areas for the All Blacks. We'll kick around

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Speaker 3: some rugby matters between now and one o'clock others around today.

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Speaker 3: The NRL season has its climax today in Sydney Grand

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Speaker 3: Final Melbourne Storm the Brisbane Broncos Tonight from nine point thirty.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to preview that with Jake Duke. Don't forget. Also,

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Speaker 3: the Warriors are involved on Grand Final Sunday in Sydney

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Speaker 3: as well. The reserve grade side, after winning the New

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Speaker 3: South Wales Cup last weekend come up against the Burly

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Speaker 3: Bears the interstate final, if you can call it that.

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Speaker 3: From three twenty this afternoon. On Friday, the Government announced

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Speaker 3: a five million dollar investment into a new centre court

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Speaker 3: roof for Auckland's Manuka Doctor Tennis Arena at Stanley Street.

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Speaker 3: CEO of Tennis, Auckland, Row and West with us this

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Speaker 3: afternoon to tell us how significant The Sirs James mcconey

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Speaker 3: as usual on a Sunday as well Livesport while we're

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Speaker 3: on their this afternoon. The final two matches of the

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Speaker 3: NPC's regular season Tasman against Counties Manico and Nelson from

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Speaker 3: five past two. Now, Counties need to win this game

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Speaker 3: to jump into the top eight ahead of Northland who

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Speaker 3: are currently eight. Tasman are raw Rey safe in the

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Speaker 3: playoff spots and they can't move into the top four

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Speaker 3: even if they win. They're going to finish in that

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Speaker 3: five to eight bracket. A bit later on Canterbury against

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Speaker 3: Tartanucky and christ Jurge. Canterbury to win with a bonus

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Speaker 3: point to top the table. If they can't, Otago will

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Speaker 3: be top qualifiers heading into the playoffs. What a season

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Speaker 3: they've had, Loga Wood locked away and now looking like

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Speaker 3: they could be top qualifier for the NPC playoffs. Tartanuky

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Speaker 3: can jump into the top four if they beat Canterbury

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Speaker 3: this afternoon. We would love to have you join us

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Speaker 4: They'd be post of the line, have to be certains

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Speaker 4: the last opportunity and they do and.

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Speaker 5: It's Jorge Bell.

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Speaker 3: What a way to finish. The All Blacks have said

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Speaker 3: over the Wallabies with a twenty eight to fourteen Bletterslow

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Speaker 3: Cup win in Perth last night. The bonus point win

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Speaker 3: twenty nine to twenty seven at Twickenham a few hours

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Speaker 3: test All Blacks front row White Crockett for his analysis. White,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first thirty minutes of the game, but MESSI the

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I think Australia started pretty well actually, and I

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing from the All Blacks that set

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Speaker 6: Think I think we have no doubt. We had our

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Speaker 6: And you know, particularly tonight the scrum was was really good.

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Speaker 6: quality ball. So now I think they've definitely taken a

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Speaker 6: Jason Ryn were a lot happier after these two games.

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Speaker 3: Do you think to Mighty Williams and Fletcher and Newell

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Speaker 3: So I guess I've been the generally accepted starting front

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they certainly playing very very well, and

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Speaker 6: I think you know whether or not they're putting pressure

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Speaker 6: they've got four quality props and whoever starts or finishes

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Speaker 6: the game probably at this stage doesn't really matter too much,

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Speaker 6: they're getting to is that position where like, who are

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Speaker 6: so I don't even know if there's too much separation

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Speaker 6: I think they're all pretty close and playing well.

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Speaker 6: definitely do think there's you you probably have your strongest

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Speaker 3: You often see you know, front rows come on and

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Speaker 3: you know, off the bench and straight away they got

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Speaker 3: to go into the scrum. Happens quite a lot. How

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it can be like I think we you know,

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Speaker 6: you work really hard at that sort of stuff, and

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Speaker 6: no doubt the guys on the on the sideline are

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Speaker 6: you know doing some potentially some two on twos or

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Speaker 6: know mentally, you know front Road coach will be talking

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Speaker 6: to them. I know it's certainly back in the case

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Speaker 6: a mindset thing and you know you're going and you know,

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Speaker 6: a couple of too on Tuesdays is actually going into

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Speaker 6: a live eight or eight test matsagram it. There's definitely

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Speaker 6: a big step up. So you do have to, you know,

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Speaker 6: work really hard on that and get used to that

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Speaker 6: as a bench player, making sure that when you do

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Speaker 3: It's certainly a twenty three man game now, wasn't it

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Speaker 3: the impact from the all black spench? I know you

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Speaker 6: It was it was a different game, wasn't it last night?

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Speaker 6: A wonderful career. And yes, always the pleasure to play

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Really appreciate your an elysis this afternoon, mate,

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Speaker 6: Us nowhere is it all pointy? Please?

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thank thanks, White White Croc. There are seventy one

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Speaker 3: test All Blacks front row with some fairly astute analysis.

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Speaker 3: Lester faighting A Nuku and Leroy Carter as our starting

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Speaker 3: for work a green Igel, they do. Harry good, afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Shut arpening, good arsening. I think you're all. I think

432
00:21:53,987 --> 00:21:56,587
Speaker 8: they're right. I think we have got a sender. We

433
00:21:56,667 --> 00:22:00,107
Speaker 8: have got a thirteen and he shouldn't go a long way.

434
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Speaker 3: I like him. I liked him there. I've always liked

435
00:22:03,027 --> 00:22:05,187
Speaker 3: Quinterpira as a player. I think he's always had a

436
00:22:05,187 --> 00:22:08,027
Speaker 3: bit about him. But I've never even considered the fact

437
00:22:08,027 --> 00:22:09,787
Speaker 3: that he was a thirteen. I just thought he was

438
00:22:09,827 --> 00:22:12,667
Speaker 3: a twelve and a twelve only Harry, Yeah.

439
00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:16,347
Speaker 8: You know, it's like it's not the tries that he's

440
00:22:16,427 --> 00:22:19,307
Speaker 8: got his score for us. It's how he got to

441
00:22:19,427 --> 00:22:21,907
Speaker 8: the try. You know, he's got a good friend. He

442
00:22:21,987 --> 00:22:25,987
Speaker 8: hangs on to the ball well and yeah he's yeah,

443
00:22:26,387 --> 00:22:28,227
Speaker 8: just take him, just take and put him in there,

444
00:22:28,267 --> 00:22:29,547
Speaker 8: and same as Leroy.

445
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

446
00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,387
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were a good yeah, yeah, they were the

447
00:22:33,387 --> 00:22:35,907
Speaker 3: two guys last night. And I know you're often focus

448
00:22:35,947 --> 00:22:37,987
Speaker 3: on on the back line because they're the ones who

449
00:22:38,027 --> 00:22:41,307
Speaker 3: do the flash stuff, but yeah, I thought to Pia terrific.

450
00:22:41,387 --> 00:22:44,107
Speaker 3: Leroy Carter just impresses me every time I see him

451
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Speaker 3: play another try last night, And I know that's only

452
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Speaker 3: part of it, but he just seems to have adapted

453
00:22:49,387 --> 00:22:52,667
Speaker 3: to test rugby so quickly. Harry, that that now you say, okay,

454
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Speaker 3: well Leroy Carter is going to play. Who's on the

455
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Speaker 3: other wing?

456
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. We've got We've got them. They're there,

457
00:22:59,467 --> 00:23:00,747
Speaker 8: they're there, We've got them.

458
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Speaker 3: Love it, Harry, love the optimism. Thanks mate, thanks for

459
00:23:04,107 --> 00:23:06,467
Speaker 3: your call. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty as our

460
00:23:06,547 --> 00:23:08,587
Speaker 3: numbers speed line to jump Abordello Marc.

461
00:23:10,147 --> 00:23:10,787
Speaker 9: Hey Piney.

462
00:23:11,067 --> 00:23:11,227
Speaker 10: Yeah.

463
00:23:11,267 --> 00:23:14,667
Speaker 9: I thought Jeordie Barrett put his whole body on the line,

464
00:23:14,827 --> 00:23:16,987
Speaker 9: including his head. At one stage I thought he had

465
00:23:16,987 --> 00:23:21,147
Speaker 9: an extremely physical game. I think he's probably one of

466
00:23:21,147 --> 00:23:23,707
Speaker 9: the most complete midfielders I've ever seen play the game,

467
00:23:23,747 --> 00:23:26,467
Speaker 9: to be honest, he just turns out week in week out.

468
00:23:26,347 --> 00:23:26,547
Speaker 10: You know.

469
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Speaker 9: I mean, I know Hardy gets a lot of accolades,

470
00:23:29,627 --> 00:23:33,227
Speaker 9: and rightly so, but I just think he's just so consistent.

471
00:23:32,707 --> 00:23:36,707
Speaker 3: Really, oh yeah, absolutely yeah.

472
00:23:36,747 --> 00:23:40,067
Speaker 9: And to Pire with him just seemed to add something too.

473
00:23:40,107 --> 00:23:44,027
Speaker 9: Pires seems to have that line breaking ability which you know,

474
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Speaker 9: to be fed at Procter. I mean, I think Proctor

475
00:23:46,387 --> 00:23:48,427
Speaker 9: is a really good super rugby player, but I think

476
00:23:48,667 --> 00:23:53,427
Speaker 9: two Pires almost like that, that that level above him.

477
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Speaker 5: You know.

478
00:23:53,747 --> 00:23:55,467
Speaker 9: I think he showed last night, and I think he's

479
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Speaker 9: showing at every step this I think he's going to

480
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Speaker 9: be a star. As for the Wings, I don't know,

481
00:24:01,267 --> 00:24:04,747
Speaker 9: there's just so many now. I feel sorry for Nanawa

482
00:24:04,827 --> 00:24:07,787
Speaker 9: who had about what even minutes of game time and

483
00:24:07,827 --> 00:24:09,747
Speaker 9: then was injured. He's going to struggle to get back

484
00:24:09,787 --> 00:24:12,747
Speaker 9: in the in the starting lineup. I thought Carter is

485
00:24:13,667 --> 00:24:16,587
Speaker 9: he's got real good football since he just knows where

486
00:24:16,627 --> 00:24:18,267
Speaker 9: to be and what to do at the right time.

487
00:24:18,787 --> 00:24:20,187
Speaker 9: He's the seventh player, wasn't he.

488
00:24:20,547 --> 00:24:20,907
Speaker 10: Yeah?

489
00:24:20,947 --> 00:24:24,507
Speaker 9: He was, Yeah, And I think that you can almost

490
00:24:24,547 --> 00:24:27,267
Speaker 9: see that he goes looking for the work. He knows

491
00:24:27,307 --> 00:24:29,867
Speaker 9: what to do at the right time. And yeah, he's

492
00:24:29,947 --> 00:24:32,547
Speaker 9: been a bit of a revelation as well on that

493
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Speaker 9: right wing.

494
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

495
00:24:34,707 --> 00:24:40,627
Speaker 9: I also thought Sony Tokiyahu is really coming on well

496
00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:42,907
Speaker 9: as an impact player after Cody goes off.

497
00:24:42,947 --> 00:24:44,267
Speaker 5: I think he's been fantastic.

498
00:24:44,747 --> 00:24:46,827
Speaker 9: It was good to see Bao score a last minute

499
00:24:46,907 --> 00:24:49,747
Speaker 9: Troy because he got me over the line with aten plus.

500
00:24:49,307 --> 00:24:50,427
Speaker 11: But it was good.

501
00:24:51,027 --> 00:24:52,907
Speaker 3: It's good and also actual. I'm going to play this

502
00:24:52,907 --> 00:24:55,747
Speaker 3: a bit later on. We had our Sporting Chants winner

503
00:24:55,867 --> 00:25:00,747
Speaker 3: yesterday who also picked the All Blacks thirteen plus as

504
00:25:01,307 --> 00:25:04,307
Speaker 3: her bet, and yeah, was eighty first minute George Bauer

505
00:25:04,347 --> 00:25:07,987
Speaker 3: crashes over. You know that's his first ever professional try,

506
00:25:08,227 --> 00:25:11,987
Speaker 3: George Bauer, not just his try, professional try.

507
00:25:13,507 --> 00:25:15,907
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, he's a good player. It's good to see

508
00:25:15,907 --> 00:25:20,507
Speaker 9: the t B losing so many. They certainly owe me

509
00:25:20,547 --> 00:25:21,187
Speaker 9: a bit Piney.

510
00:25:22,547 --> 00:25:23,947
Speaker 3: I still think him on a nather has got a

511
00:25:24,027 --> 00:25:26,747
Speaker 3: role to play. You know, he was unfortunate, as you say,

512
00:25:26,787 --> 00:25:30,027
Speaker 3: to pick up that injury and his you know, his

513
00:25:30,987 --> 00:25:35,227
Speaker 3: opportunities have been limited largely through injury, but also I

514
00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:37,147
Speaker 3: guess guys in front of him. But I'd like to

515
00:25:37,147 --> 00:25:39,627
Speaker 3: see more from him on Hena. I think if he

516
00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:43,147
Speaker 3: has another big super season, you know him and and

517
00:25:43,147 --> 00:25:47,067
Speaker 3: and and Carter and they're also getting to moy Filow,

518
00:25:47,107 --> 00:25:49,787
Speaker 3: aren't they the chiefs so going to be even though

519
00:25:51,187 --> 00:25:51,547
Speaker 3: what was that?

520
00:25:51,627 --> 00:25:51,907
Speaker 12: Sorry?

521
00:25:53,627 --> 00:25:55,867
Speaker 10: Do you see Simmys getting back into the side.

522
00:25:55,707 --> 00:25:56,187
Speaker 9: Of or now?

523
00:25:57,907 --> 00:26:02,707
Speaker 3: No? No, I just don't see. I just think there's

524
00:26:02,707 --> 00:26:04,347
Speaker 3: too many ahead of him in the Q now, Mark,

525
00:26:05,107 --> 00:26:09,307
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't see it. Look has been a

526
00:26:09,307 --> 00:26:12,587
Speaker 3: great player for us, came into the side what just

527
00:26:12,587 --> 00:26:17,427
Speaker 3: ahead of the World Cup in twenty nineteen, I think, yeah,

528
00:26:16,907 --> 00:26:19,107
Speaker 3: I just feel like there are too many ahead of

529
00:26:19,147 --> 00:26:19,467
Speaker 3: them now.

530
00:26:20,427 --> 00:26:24,187
Speaker 9: It's crazy to think that Mark Shaliah is no longer

531
00:26:24,187 --> 00:26:26,747
Speaker 9: in the All Black Reckoning, isn't it. It was such

532
00:26:26,787 --> 00:26:29,867
Speaker 9: a star, you know, just only a handful of years ago.

533
00:26:30,067 --> 00:26:31,827
Speaker 9: You wouldn't You would have thought he'd been there for

534
00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:34,907
Speaker 9: a long time. But and it's amazing how things change

535
00:26:34,907 --> 00:26:38,227
Speaker 9: and how players just seem to come through these days.

536
00:26:37,907 --> 00:26:40,307
Speaker 3: Absolutely, especially in those wing spots and those those back

537
00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,747
Speaker 3: three spots. Mark, Thanks for your cool mate. I think

538
00:26:42,747 --> 00:26:44,987
Speaker 3: we've spoken about it off and on the show. The

539
00:26:45,547 --> 00:26:47,947
Speaker 3: Hot Hand as a winger. You know, you don't have

540
00:26:47,987 --> 00:26:50,747
Speaker 3: to be the best winger over a four year World

541
00:26:50,747 --> 00:26:54,427
Speaker 3: Cup cycle. If you're the best winger in the twelve

542
00:26:54,427 --> 00:26:57,987
Speaker 3: months before a World Cup, then that's where you can

543
00:26:58,027 --> 00:27:00,827
Speaker 3: seize your opportunity. And history is full of this. Near

544
00:27:00,907 --> 00:27:04,787
Speaker 3: him Ilnes Scudder in twenty fifteen, twenty nineteen, Seva Reese

545
00:27:04,827 --> 00:27:07,827
Speaker 3: and George Bridge that hardly played for the All Blacks.

546
00:27:09,187 --> 00:27:11,507
Speaker 3: Look Leroy Carter, I think you know, I'm not not

547
00:27:11,907 --> 00:27:15,827
Speaker 3: at all suggesting that he is peaking too early. I

548
00:27:15,827 --> 00:27:17,107
Speaker 3: think he's got a lot of gas in the tank.

549
00:27:17,107 --> 00:27:19,387
Speaker 3: The other thing about Leroy Carter, they often say, you know,

550
00:27:19,427 --> 00:27:21,307
Speaker 3: once you turned twenty seven as a winger, that might

551
00:27:21,347 --> 00:27:27,747
Speaker 3: be you. But man, he he looks good. I really

552
00:27:27,827 --> 00:27:30,507
Speaker 3: like the look of Leroy Carter. I think Caleb Clark

553
00:27:30,507 --> 00:27:35,467
Speaker 3: still got plenty of offer as well. Good text here,

554
00:27:35,507 --> 00:27:39,507
Speaker 3: Leroy Carter's the michaeleb break of men's rugby. He runs angry.

555
00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:44,467
Speaker 3: That's a great phrase. He runs angry, being hi.

556
00:27:44,427 --> 00:27:47,667
Speaker 10: Mate, Hey, piny, how you mean good?

557
00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:48,147
Speaker 3: Being good?

558
00:27:49,867 --> 00:27:52,547
Speaker 10: I'm feeling a bit better after the performance last night

559
00:27:52,587 --> 00:27:57,947
Speaker 10: from the Aber. Just when he got me some spicy,

560
00:27:58,587 --> 00:28:02,307
Speaker 10: spicy potato wedges and some sour cream and sweet ty

561
00:28:02,467 --> 00:28:06,507
Speaker 10: chili and the box. So getting running around, getting all

562
00:28:06,587 --> 00:28:08,707
Speaker 10: is all done for the big, the big day to

563
00:28:08,787 --> 00:28:12,787
Speaker 10: day I can so I can sit down at three

564
00:28:12,827 --> 00:28:15,787
Speaker 10: o'clock and blob out so they for the rest of

565
00:28:15,827 --> 00:28:22,907
Speaker 10: the day. Absolutely, last last game, yesterday's game was just

566
00:28:22,987 --> 00:28:24,787
Speaker 10: awesome because I think last time we spoke, I was

567
00:28:24,787 --> 00:28:27,187
Speaker 10: talking about how the All Blacks are no longer a

568
00:28:27,227 --> 00:28:33,987
Speaker 10: second half team and they proved me wrong last night

569
00:28:35,067 --> 00:28:37,067
Speaker 10: game into half time, I thought this was this is

570
00:28:37,107 --> 00:28:41,747
Speaker 10: a bit close and it's anyone's game. But yeah, no,

571
00:28:42,027 --> 00:28:48,827
Speaker 10: just oh man, Lee were acadah. Yeah, what a water player,

572
00:28:48,907 --> 00:28:51,867
Speaker 10: what a guy? And uh what you were saying before

573
00:28:51,867 --> 00:28:54,867
Speaker 10: he plays, he's he's an angry bugger. He's a vicey

574
00:28:54,907 --> 00:28:59,187
Speaker 10: bagger and and it's awesome to see it's getting real

575
00:28:59,267 --> 00:29:04,827
Speaker 10: chat that but that hit it, that felcon from Geordie.

576
00:29:07,907 --> 00:29:10,147
Speaker 10: It must have made soccer soccer fans proud.

577
00:29:10,667 --> 00:29:14,107
Speaker 3: Oh mate. I watched that as a as a yeah,

578
00:29:14,107 --> 00:29:16,227
Speaker 3: as a football man, I watched that being yeah.

579
00:29:16,187 --> 00:29:19,307
Speaker 10: And because you're trying to get yeah.

580
00:29:19,067 --> 00:29:20,907
Speaker 3: I thought he knocked it on. I thought he knocked

581
00:29:20,907 --> 00:29:22,387
Speaker 3: it on it first, I just do.

582
00:29:22,507 --> 00:29:24,547
Speaker 10: I thought, hang on when when the two po got that,

583
00:29:25,227 --> 00:29:28,707
Speaker 10: and I thought that was brilliant, brilliant chipped and perfect chipping,

584
00:29:28,787 --> 00:29:30,787
Speaker 10: bounce and everything. But then I thought, hang on, hold

585
00:29:30,827 --> 00:29:34,507
Speaker 10: the phone. And then came the slow replay and it's

586
00:29:34,627 --> 00:29:38,307
Speaker 10: just smack straight and right on the nose.

587
00:29:42,307 --> 00:29:44,707
Speaker 3: He questioned, Well, hey, well, I get you being Rugby League.

588
00:29:44,707 --> 00:29:46,747
Speaker 3: So yeah, Gona, you're gonna blob out from three. So

589
00:29:47,187 --> 00:29:50,347
Speaker 3: presumably the Warriors, the Warriors will beat the Billy Bess

590
00:29:50,387 --> 00:29:51,387
Speaker 3: what about the big one tonight?

591
00:29:51,427 --> 00:29:51,587
Speaker 11: Mate?

592
00:29:51,587 --> 00:29:54,027
Speaker 3: Have you got Broncos or Storm?

593
00:29:54,227 --> 00:29:58,427
Speaker 10: I've got the Storm, mate, Broncos fan from way back before.

594
00:29:58,427 --> 00:30:05,147
Speaker 10: The Worrior is but the Bronco, the Storm, three willed

595
00:30:05,587 --> 00:30:10,267
Speaker 10: the willed be players, all informing, all on the paddock.

596
00:30:10,347 --> 00:30:15,707
Speaker 10: I don't think Broncos again. Yeah yeah, sorry mate, But

597
00:30:16,507 --> 00:30:18,587
Speaker 10: n Delamy is a coach, I mean, the best coach

598
00:30:18,627 --> 00:30:22,827
Speaker 10: in the world. Yeah, it's my pick, fair.

599
00:30:22,707 --> 00:30:24,587
Speaker 3: Enough, Ben, Look, I got no skin in the game, mate.

600
00:30:24,587 --> 00:30:26,907
Speaker 3: I'm not a Broncos or a Storm fan. I'm just

601
00:30:26,947 --> 00:30:29,227
Speaker 3: a fan of this Grand Final. I think it'll be

602
00:30:29,267 --> 00:30:31,747
Speaker 3: a terrific game. I'm going to get Jack Duke out

603
00:30:31,747 --> 00:30:33,587
Speaker 3: of Fox Sports on on the radio after two to

604
00:30:33,667 --> 00:30:35,987
Speaker 3: preview it for us. But I look at those two teams.

605
00:30:35,987 --> 00:30:38,467
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, Penrith have been there, haven't they

606
00:30:38,507 --> 00:30:40,187
Speaker 3: wont the last they've won, the last four they've been

607
00:30:40,187 --> 00:30:42,547
Speaker 3: in the last five especially quite nice to not have

608
00:30:42,627 --> 00:30:46,187
Speaker 3: them there. Nothing against Penrith, They've been absolutely superb for

609
00:30:46,267 --> 00:30:48,547
Speaker 3: five years and again this year they could be there

610
00:30:48,747 --> 00:30:50,827
Speaker 3: but for you bounds of a ball here all their

611
00:30:50,907 --> 00:30:53,347
Speaker 3: last weekend. But Broncos storm. I just love it. I

612
00:30:53,387 --> 00:30:57,187
Speaker 3: love the matchups. Anyway, we can talk more about that

613
00:30:57,227 --> 00:30:59,667
Speaker 3: after two o'clock. Thanks for your CORBN. Enjoy the rest

614
00:30:59,707 --> 00:31:02,147
Speaker 3: of your afternoon, mate, and those spicy wedges, good on you.

615
00:31:02,707 --> 00:31:05,347
Speaker 3: Brenda's is Ponty. I have to agree with the Texter yesterday.

616
00:31:05,747 --> 00:31:09,347
Speaker 3: The Aussie j is more orange than yellow or gold.

617
00:31:10,147 --> 00:31:11,347
Speaker 3: Go and have a look at some of the older

618
00:31:11,427 --> 00:31:14,667
Speaker 3: jerseys to see how yellow they were. Also check out

619
00:31:14,667 --> 00:31:17,307
Speaker 3: the supporters they're in yellow, not orange.

620
00:31:17,427 --> 00:31:17,587
Speaker 7: Yeah.

621
00:31:17,587 --> 00:31:20,587
Speaker 3: We had this discussion yesterday and it was Craig who

622
00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:24,347
Speaker 3: first of all texted and said, look those those Wallabies

623
00:31:24,467 --> 00:31:27,347
Speaker 3: jerseys are orange. They're not yellow, they're orange, And I

624
00:31:27,387 --> 00:31:31,947
Speaker 3: said I disagreed initially, but then Craig took the opportunity

625
00:31:32,027 --> 00:31:35,827
Speaker 3: to send me an email with a Wallabies jersey and

626
00:31:35,867 --> 00:31:38,187
Speaker 3: a picture of an orange and I have to say

627
00:31:38,267 --> 00:31:41,507
Speaker 3: the colors were very similar. Thanks for your text, Brendan

628
00:31:41,867 --> 00:31:43,587
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty got a spare line talking

629
00:31:43,667 --> 00:31:45,707
Speaker 3: rugby until one after one. We're going to shift across

630
00:31:45,707 --> 00:31:48,547
Speaker 3: the netball Marx, says Jason. That was a really good

631
00:31:48,547 --> 00:31:53,027
Speaker 3: performance from the Abs, but Damian McKenzie's goalkicking. What happened

632
00:31:54,587 --> 00:31:56,467
Speaker 3: on that The Aussies were a little hard done by

633
00:31:56,507 --> 00:31:59,187
Speaker 3: with the first yellow card. Even the commentators called it

634
00:31:59,307 --> 00:32:03,067
Speaker 3: unfair and losing. Will Skelton early changed their team. Yes,

635
00:32:03,107 --> 00:32:05,507
Speaker 3: great to see Quintapire in that position and Lester on

636
00:32:05,547 --> 00:32:08,067
Speaker 3: the wing. Those two have definitely put their hands up

637
00:32:08,107 --> 00:32:11,907
Speaker 3: for future test matches, says Mark. Yeah, I was interested

638
00:32:11,947 --> 00:32:15,067
Speaker 3: to see some of the narrative around the yellow cards.

639
00:32:15,827 --> 00:32:18,827
Speaker 3: I mean the the ikataw one. Look, we've seen this

640
00:32:19,227 --> 00:32:22,827
Speaker 3: story before many times since World Rugby sort of zoomed

641
00:32:22,827 --> 00:32:29,347
Speaker 3: in on head contact and Ikeatau running upright ran into

642
00:32:29,427 --> 00:32:31,707
Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was who he ran into,

643
00:32:32,027 --> 00:32:34,787
Speaker 3: but head on head I'm glad it was just a

644
00:32:34,867 --> 00:32:38,947
Speaker 3: yellow and not upgraded and the croc roll on Jordi Barrett.

645
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Speaker 3: I know, I think it was justin marshall long commentary

646
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Speaker 3: last night, wasn't it. He said he didn't think it

647
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Speaker 3: was a yellow card. I still think it's dangerous, you know,

648
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Speaker 3: I still think of what could happen to Jordi Barrett

649
00:32:50,947 --> 00:32:57,827
Speaker 3: in that situation if he falls slightly more awkwardly. I

650
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Speaker 3: don't think it was a you know, it wasn't a

651
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Speaker 3: game changer. I thought it was a yellow card. Seventeen

652
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Speaker 3: away from one, News Talks, he'd be eight hundred, ten

653
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Speaker 3: and aighty talking all Blacks to one back with more

654
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Speaker 3: in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports

656
00:33:13,387 --> 00:33:17,547
Speaker 1: with Jason Payne and GJ. Gardnerhops New Zealand's most trusted

657
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Speaker 1: home builder, News Dogs.

658
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Speaker 3: NB News Talks. There'll be fourteen away from one. Just

659
00:33:21,667 --> 00:33:23,387
Speaker 3: a reminder that after one we're going to zoom it

660
00:33:23,467 --> 00:33:26,467
Speaker 3: on this. Netball Netball New Zealand CEO Jenny Wiley going

661
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Speaker 3: to join us after one. Also, New Zealand Netball Plays

662
00:33:28,987 --> 00:33:32,947
Speaker 3: Association Executive manager Steph Bond on the show this after

663
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Speaker 3: the news yesterday that they haven't been able to reach

664
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Speaker 3: a resolution with the Dame Noling Todua ongoing coaching saga.

665
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Speaker 3: So we're too from here. Can they tell us anything

666
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Speaker 3: about the allegations the concerns? So yeah, Jenny Wiley and

667
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Speaker 3: Steph Bond after one back to the lines of a moment.

668
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Speaker 3: Pinty overall happy with the performance, says this text and

669
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Speaker 3: how the AB's controlled the match to victory. But it

670
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Speaker 3: wasn't without concern. Australia will running us ragged in the

671
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Speaker 3: first twenty and the amount of meet us their backline

672
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Speaker 3: chewed up almost every time should be a concern. And

673
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Speaker 3: goal kicking, however, Tapye was brilliant a really strangely substitution

674
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Speaker 3: though actually I thought that too. Fifty seven minutes they

675
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Speaker 3: took off their best player. I don't know whether he

676
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Speaker 3: was carrying a niggle, not sure. Good to have Lester

677
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Speaker 3: back as well. The text goes on to say, one

678
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Speaker 3: burning question though, what other coaches doing with Ruben Love

679
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Speaker 3: if they're not going to give him real minutes in

680
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Speaker 3: a position he plays. Yeah, I feel a bit for

681
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Speaker 3: Reuben Love because I'm not quite sure what his role

682
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Speaker 3: to play is at the moment. Maybe it is just

683
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Speaker 3: in that twenty three Jersey. I would like to see

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Speaker 3: him given a go at first five at some point,

685
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Speaker 3: but I just don't know when you do that. Maybe

686
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Speaker 3: you do it at the back end of the season

687
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Speaker 3: against Wales and the very last Test. I don't know.

688
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the situation is around Bowden Barrett's

689
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Speaker 3: injury and whether he'll be available for the Northern tour Ireland, Scotland,

690
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Speaker 3: England Wales. Maybe I don't know. Maybe Ruben Love gets

691
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Speaker 3: to start again against Wales and Cardiff. I guess we

692
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Speaker 3: have to wait and see. Hey, Phil, what stood out

693
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Speaker 3: last night?

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Speaker 11: Mate?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: What was that?

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Speaker 13: Sorry pointing?

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Speaker 14: You just caught me a boof guardy.

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Speaker 3: I just wondered what stood out for you last night?

700
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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm in a bit of a lost pointy. I

702
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Speaker 14: was gonna have to ask you a bit about too

703
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Speaker 14: many beers last night, and I was struggling to remember

704
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Speaker 14: the game.

705
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Speaker 3: Well, good June didn't field to catch up on things.

706
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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, which is a real bugger because I didn't

707
00:35:25,467 --> 00:35:26,987
Speaker 14: go that. I was watched the cricket and then I

708
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Speaker 14: was looking forward to watching the game, but so unfortunately

709
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Speaker 14: my memories but adi, But I did want to say

710
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Speaker 14: that I do like tire Year as a how do

711
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Speaker 14: you say his name? Quinn too, Pia, Yeah, Quentin too pie.

712
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Speaker 14: I do like him and I think, like you say,

713
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Speaker 14: he could be the way to go forward in that

714
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Speaker 14: center position. Like I was impressed that the week before,

715
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Speaker 14: you know, when he come on and played on the wing.

716
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Speaker 14: I thought, Jesus, guy's got something about him, all right.

717
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Speaker 14: So and I'm liking, Yeah, I really liked to look

718
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Speaker 14: at him and either like if you know, they can

719
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Speaker 14: they know they can throw him on the wing if

720
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Speaker 14: he needs to go there, but yeah, it maybe stick

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Speaker 14: with him the center and give him see how he goes,

722
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Speaker 14: because yeah, he's got he's got something about him. And

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Speaker 14: I'm liking the I'm liking the look of the team,

724
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Speaker 14: you know, with the Clark and the wing Carter. I

725
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Speaker 14: think Carter is going to be where you could say

726
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Speaker 14: I was going to say he's going to be brilliant,

727
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Speaker 14: but you could say he's brilliant at the moment, Like

728
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Speaker 14: his defense not only on his attack, but his defense

729
00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:38,867
Speaker 14: is good as well. So I'm liking that, you know,

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Speaker 14: and we got we got, oh got hopeless with names

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Speaker 14: at times. We've got.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna have a guess.

733
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a guest and say you're thinking of

734
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Speaker 3: Lister fighting on the other wing, are you?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 14: Yes, yes, yes he was good, too impressive. But I'm

737
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Speaker 14: going to have to watch the replay. I think, well, Jordan,

738
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Speaker 14: that's what I was trying to think. You know, we

739
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Speaker 14: got Will Jordan here as well, and so yeah, I

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Speaker 14: like the direction we're going and I wish I could

741
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Speaker 14: have more analysis to remember by it, you know, contribute

742
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Speaker 14: a bit more. But I did want to mention to

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Speaker 14: year no good.

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Speaker 3: On your film. Hey, look mate, what do you have

745
00:37:28,947 --> 00:37:30,667
Speaker 3: a look at a replaymate and we can we can

746
00:37:30,747 --> 00:37:33,227
Speaker 3: chat again. We can chat again. I think you'll enjoy it.

747
00:37:33,347 --> 00:37:35,707
Speaker 3: I have a lookout for Toupire, have a lookout for

748
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Speaker 3: fighting Anoko. And I thought, yeah, Will Jordan was good again.

749
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Speaker 3: I didn't get a try today in his fiftieth There's

750
00:37:41,387 --> 00:37:43,667
Speaker 3: been a couple of tests without a try for Will Jordan.

751
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Speaker 3: It's been odd for him, isn't it? A couple of

752
00:37:45,547 --> 00:37:48,747
Speaker 3: texts before we go to a break, Jason, have Otago

753
00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:51,907
Speaker 3: ever won the NPC? Asks Peter. Yes, indeed they have

754
00:37:52,027 --> 00:37:54,547
Speaker 3: not for a while, though Peter, last time Otago won

755
00:37:54,587 --> 00:37:58,267
Speaker 3: the NPC was nineteen ninety eight. That was an absolutely

756
00:37:58,427 --> 00:38:02,427
Speaker 3: magnificent Otago side at the back end of the nineties. Man,

757
00:38:02,547 --> 00:38:05,267
Speaker 3: I remember seeing a graphic on it was either on

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Speaker 3: Facebook or somewhere of that Otago site and they were

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00:38:08,827 --> 00:38:12,547
Speaker 3: absolutely stacked, absolutely stacked. I should say I can dig

760
00:38:12,547 --> 00:38:15,027
Speaker 3: it up. Actually it was basically an all black side

761
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Speaker 3: back into the nineties. They also Otago won in nineteen

762
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Speaker 3: ninety one, so it's been a long time since we

763
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Speaker 3: went to the finals format. They haven't been anywhere near it.

764
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Speaker 3: But the way O Tiger were playing, they've got the shield.

765
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Speaker 3: Would you really bet against them going deep into the

766
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Speaker 3: playoffs as well? Has Scott Barrett's thoughts after the game

767
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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it's pleasing to finish the Ruga Championship

769
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Speaker 15: with a win like that. Wasn't pretty, but yet you'll

770
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Speaker 15: be hung off tonight in greasy conditions adapted. I think

771
00:38:49,787 --> 00:38:52,987
Speaker 15: throughout the Rugby Championship we've learned that we need a

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Speaker 15: front up every week when you put the all black

773
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Speaker 15: jersey on, and you know, a couple of times we

774
00:38:58,227 --> 00:39:01,427
Speaker 15: clearly didn't do that, and you know, those are tough lessons.

775
00:39:01,587 --> 00:39:04,027
Speaker 15: This group's got a few scars from that, and you know,

776
00:39:04,147 --> 00:39:06,187
Speaker 15: we want to have a bit of a refresh before

777
00:39:06,187 --> 00:39:09,707
Speaker 15: we hit up North, and I guess chased the Grand Slam,

778
00:39:09,787 --> 00:39:13,347
Speaker 15: so yeah, without looking too far ahead. And Jordan's fiftieth tonight,

779
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Speaker 15: and George Bowscreen's first professional try, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: So you always celebrate a couple of little things tonight

782
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Speaker 15: and look forward to getting back home.

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Speaker 3: So that came as news to Scott robertson there. Obviously

784
00:39:30,507 --> 00:39:33,627
Speaker 3: he didn't know that George Barrett never scored a professional try.

785
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Speaker 3: I'm sure if I'm George Bauer, I'm telling everybody. I

786
00:39:36,827 --> 00:39:39,427
Speaker 3: am telling absolutely everybody. Eight to one News Talks MB.

787
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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

788
00:39:42,787 --> 00:39:47,947
Speaker 1: on eight Weekend Sports with Jason Pine, News Talks.

789
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Speaker 3: MB coming up five to one, the Otago sodon in

790
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Speaker 3: ninety eight, Case Mews, Tayne Randall, Joe McDonell, Carl Hoft,

791
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Speaker 3: Josh Cronfield, Anton, Oliver Simon, mailing Byron kellerha John Leslie,

792
00:40:03,227 --> 00:40:08,267
Speaker 3: Jeff Wilson, Brendan Laney, Tony Brown and others. It was

793
00:40:08,307 --> 00:40:13,867
Speaker 3: some team. It was some team. Aiden says, I can

794
00:40:13,867 --> 00:40:16,987
Speaker 3: see a starting fifteen and twenty three emerging from this

795
00:40:17,267 --> 00:40:20,027
Speaker 3: four D strategy. I'd like to see that's the four

796
00:40:20,067 --> 00:40:21,987
Speaker 3: deep over four years to win a fourth World Cup.

797
00:40:22,027 --> 00:40:24,027
Speaker 3: Good stuff, Aiden, I'd like to see he carries on

798
00:40:24,267 --> 00:40:27,267
Speaker 3: stability with this core team moving forward to build the

799
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Speaker 3: cohesion and trust needed for the run of big matches

800
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Speaker 3: at the trophy end of the World Cup. Let New

801
00:40:33,067 --> 00:40:35,987
Speaker 3: Zealand's or the New Zealand fifteen be the development program

802
00:40:36,067 --> 00:40:38,427
Speaker 3: for players outside the core group. Thanks Aden, you I

803
00:40:38,427 --> 00:40:41,267
Speaker 3: think you know I as think. As I said yesterday,

804
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Speaker 3: Scott Robertson's done a pretty good job of giving blocks

805
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Speaker 3: a go. Fifty five players he's used in his two

806
00:40:47,107 --> 00:40:53,267
Speaker 3: years as head coach Ordan one and two thirds years,

807
00:40:53,387 --> 00:40:55,787
Speaker 3: shall we say fifty five guys have been given a go?

808
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Speaker 3: And I think that's what all happened. If you're going

809
00:40:57,187 --> 00:40:59,187
Speaker 3: to give guys go ago, you do it in the

810
00:40:59,227 --> 00:41:01,147
Speaker 3: first couple of years of World Cup cycle. Then you

811
00:41:01,187 --> 00:41:03,227
Speaker 3: do crystallize it down you start using your core group.

812
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Speaker 3: Thanks for your text, Aiden, Thanks for all your cause

813
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Speaker 3: and correspondent on the Rugby after one Netball Netble New

814
00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:13,467
Speaker 3: Zealand CEO Jenny Wiley is with us and also Steph

815
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Speaker 3: Bond Netball players Association Executive manager.

816
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Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

817
00:41:22,547 --> 00:41:27,507
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

818
00:41:27,587 --> 00:41:31,347
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason him on your home of Sport

819
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Speaker 1: News Talks.

820
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Speaker 2: At Been.

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Speaker 3: News Talks had been on Weekend Sport one oh seven.

822
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us on Jason Pine Bevan Dua is

823
00:41:38,507 --> 00:41:42,987
Speaker 3: show producer. We're hair till three. No resolution has been

824
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Speaker 3: reached in the standoff between Netball New Zealand's and Silver

825
00:41:46,987 --> 00:41:51,507
Speaker 3: Ferns coach Dame Noline Todoua. The national governing body released

826
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Speaker 3: a statement yesterday confirming Avet McCausland jury will continue as

827
00:41:56,587 --> 00:42:00,827
Speaker 3: interim coach for the upcoming Constellation Cup series and for

828
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Speaker 3: the Northern Tour that follows. Netball New Zealand CEO is

829
00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:08,947
Speaker 3: Jenny Y who joins us now, Jenny, what can you

830
00:42:08,987 --> 00:42:12,267
Speaker 3: tell us about the mediation process you've carried out over

831
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Speaker 3: the last week or so and an inability to find

832
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Speaker 3: a solution here.

833
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Speaker 16: Yeah, Well, what we're providing today is an update of

834
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Speaker 16: where we're at. As you know, our players are assembling

835
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Speaker 16: for camp as they led into conc Up a Northern

836
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Speaker 16: tour and as a result we are confirming interim coach

837
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Speaker 16: appointments in there, and that is because despite everyone's best

838
00:42:38,947 --> 00:42:43,907
Speaker 16: efforts to reach resolution in terms of the concerns and

839
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Speaker 16: the Silver Fans High Performance environment, we've been unable to

840
00:42:47,627 --> 00:42:47,867
Speaker 16: do that.

841
00:42:48,867 --> 00:42:49,947
Speaker 3: What are those concerns?

842
00:42:51,387 --> 00:42:54,947
Speaker 16: Oh, look, I think they are part of a confidential

843
00:42:54,947 --> 00:43:00,587
Speaker 16: employment matter and what we're doing is respecting everyone in

844
00:43:00,627 --> 00:43:04,627
Speaker 16: that process. But as we've said, we have concerns around

845
00:43:05,027 --> 00:43:08,067
Speaker 16: the Civil Firans high performance environment and working through those.

846
00:43:08,627 --> 00:43:11,147
Speaker 3: Are they directly related to Dame Nolen? Only?

847
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Speaker 16: As you all know, we have to respect the privacy

848
00:43:16,947 --> 00:43:20,827
Speaker 16: of everyone involved and the confidentiality and that includes that

849
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Speaker 16: of Dame Nolene, of the players and everyone in that environment,

850
00:43:24,867 --> 00:43:27,467
Speaker 16: and we hold that paramount in this process.

851
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Speaker 3: Genny, how many players are involved here?

852
00:43:30,907 --> 00:43:34,747
Speaker 16: I think you know again that is confidential. You've got

853
00:43:34,747 --> 00:43:38,427
Speaker 16: to respect the cohort in that environment. We've got to

854
00:43:38,467 --> 00:43:42,907
Speaker 16: respect that Dame Nolen and her team and that's incredibly

855
00:43:42,947 --> 00:43:45,587
Speaker 16: important to us in our integrity in this Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get all that. I get all that, we

857
00:43:47,467 --> 00:43:49,227
Speaker 3: all get all that. But do you accept that this

858
00:43:49,427 --> 00:43:53,907
Speaker 3: lack of transparency is damaging to Netborn, New Zealand.

859
00:43:56,387 --> 00:43:59,147
Speaker 16: What we do know is there is intense interest in

860
00:43:59,187 --> 00:44:03,507
Speaker 16: this and any organization like Netble New Zealand lives in

861
00:44:03,547 --> 00:44:06,947
Speaker 16: a fish bowl. But at the moment, our response ssability

862
00:44:07,147 --> 00:44:09,627
Speaker 16: is to Dame Nolen and it is to the players,

863
00:44:09,707 --> 00:44:13,147
Speaker 16: and we maintain you know that is the so priority.

864
00:44:13,467 --> 00:44:16,787
Speaker 3: Would it not, though, be perhaps a better option for

865
00:44:16,867 --> 00:44:18,707
Speaker 3: you to at least give us some idea of what

866
00:44:18,747 --> 00:44:19,427
Speaker 3: the issues are.

867
00:44:21,227 --> 00:44:25,787
Speaker 16: Well, we have given an indication that we are looking

868
00:44:25,787 --> 00:44:29,187
Speaker 16: to resolve matters within the Silver Ferns high performance environment,

869
00:44:29,667 --> 00:44:33,147
Speaker 16: but we're also being able to respect the confidentiality and

870
00:44:33,187 --> 00:44:35,467
Speaker 16: the privacy of all involved in the process.

871
00:44:36,547 --> 00:44:40,267
Speaker 3: Can you tell us anything? Can you tell us what

872
00:44:40,307 --> 00:44:42,827
Speaker 3: the sticking points are why you haven't been able to

873
00:44:42,827 --> 00:44:43,547
Speaker 3: reach a resolution.

874
00:44:45,267 --> 00:44:48,027
Speaker 16: I think the key thing here is we're working through

875
00:44:48,147 --> 00:44:52,187
Speaker 16: a really difficult and challenging process. None of us want

876
00:44:52,227 --> 00:44:55,227
Speaker 16: to be here, none of us want to be addressing

877
00:44:55,267 --> 00:44:58,427
Speaker 16: these at this time, and everyone is looking for certainty

878
00:44:59,067 --> 00:45:04,147
Speaker 16: at the moment we are. We're acutely aware that resolving

879
00:45:04,227 --> 00:45:10,187
Speaker 16: these issues is absolutely paramount for us all but for

880
00:45:10,267 --> 00:45:13,627
Speaker 16: confidentiality reasons, we can't be more open about these issues.

881
00:45:14,267 --> 00:45:15,867
Speaker 3: Is mediation going to continue?

882
00:45:17,547 --> 00:45:21,627
Speaker 16: We are working through a confidential employment process, and we're

883
00:45:21,667 --> 00:45:24,667
Speaker 16: working really, really hard with Dame Nolean in her team,

884
00:45:25,707 --> 00:45:28,107
Speaker 16: and we continue to look at ways and avenues that

885
00:45:28,147 --> 00:45:29,507
Speaker 16: we can resolve these issues.

886
00:45:29,627 --> 00:45:32,427
Speaker 3: So, in other words, then you may reach a point

887
00:45:32,507 --> 00:45:35,147
Speaker 3: or you may already have reached a point where you

888
00:45:35,227 --> 00:45:38,907
Speaker 3: don't think mediation will get you any further down the track, Genny,

889
00:45:38,947 --> 00:45:40,947
Speaker 3: is Dame Nolen a chance to return his head coach

890
00:45:41,067 --> 00:45:41,267
Speaker 3: or not?

891
00:45:42,627 --> 00:45:48,187
Speaker 16: We're working, yesly to continue to discuss and resolve these issues,

892
00:45:48,547 --> 00:45:51,707
Speaker 16: but at this time the most important thing for us is.

893
00:45:51,627 --> 00:45:52,987
Speaker 7: To be able to give.

894
00:45:52,867 --> 00:45:56,827
Speaker 16: Clarity and transparency to our athletes and management so that

895
00:45:56,867 --> 00:45:59,747
Speaker 16: they can prepare to the best of their ability for

896
00:45:59,787 --> 00:46:01,027
Speaker 16: the upcoming test series.

897
00:46:01,147 --> 00:46:03,827
Speaker 3: Do you think Dame Nolean has clarity and transparency here?

898
00:46:06,427 --> 00:46:09,307
Speaker 16: We are in is a really confidential process where we

899
00:46:09,387 --> 00:46:14,987
Speaker 16: need to be able to respect all parties and ensure

900
00:46:15,067 --> 00:46:18,467
Speaker 16: that we maintain the integrity in the manner of everybody involved,

901
00:46:18,507 --> 00:46:21,067
Speaker 16: and for that reason it does remain confidential.

902
00:46:21,227 --> 00:46:23,427
Speaker 3: Would you like Dame Nolan to return as head coach?

903
00:46:25,027 --> 00:46:27,267
Speaker 16: Well, I think it's really important that we reach a

904
00:46:27,347 --> 00:46:32,027
Speaker 16: conclusion of these negotiations as quickly as possible, and that

905
00:46:32,147 --> 00:46:34,627
Speaker 16: has not been for wanted trying by all parties.

906
00:46:35,187 --> 00:46:37,667
Speaker 3: All right, Well, so now you've got Evett McCausland jury

907
00:46:37,747 --> 00:46:40,747
Speaker 3: coming in to continue in an interim roll for the

908
00:46:40,747 --> 00:46:43,787
Speaker 3: rest of the year. It just seems as though the

909
00:46:43,867 --> 00:46:47,627
Speaker 3: longer this goes, the less likely a resolution is. Can

910
00:46:47,667 --> 00:46:50,067
Speaker 3: you see a resolution in our future here?

911
00:46:51,867 --> 00:46:53,867
Speaker 16: I think what we need to be able to do

912
00:46:54,147 --> 00:46:57,987
Speaker 16: is work through these issues in the right forum with

913
00:46:58,107 --> 00:47:02,187
Speaker 16: the right people and ensure that we reach a conclusion

914
00:47:02,307 --> 00:47:04,627
Speaker 16: that is fit for purpose for our environment.

915
00:47:05,827 --> 00:47:09,467
Speaker 3: So what is your message than, Jenny to silver Ferns

916
00:47:09,507 --> 00:47:14,387
Speaker 3: fans who are growing increasingly more frustrated and disillusion with

917
00:47:14,427 --> 00:47:14,907
Speaker 3: the whole thing.

918
00:47:16,827 --> 00:47:19,707
Speaker 16: Well, I know that it has been a really unsettling

919
00:47:19,787 --> 00:47:23,947
Speaker 16: and difficult period. I appreciate that the ability to be

920
00:47:24,507 --> 00:47:28,427
Speaker 16: fully transparent has not been there, but that is for

921
00:47:28,547 --> 00:47:33,507
Speaker 16: good reason. We are protecting all parties in this matter,

922
00:47:34,507 --> 00:47:37,587
Speaker 16: and I know that means we can't be more open

923
00:47:37,827 --> 00:47:42,787
Speaker 16: about what is going on, but there is good reason

924
00:47:42,867 --> 00:47:47,507
Speaker 16: for that, and at no time will we move beyond

925
00:47:48,587 --> 00:47:51,787
Speaker 16: the right and proper process that we have got external

926
00:47:51,867 --> 00:47:55,947
Speaker 16: support and advice on, and for that reason we will

927
00:47:55,987 --> 00:47:59,547
Speaker 16: maintain the privacy and confidentiality of everyone involved.

928
00:48:01,387 --> 00:48:10,387
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Jenny Wiley, Netble, New Zealand CEO. Let's bring

929
00:48:10,427 --> 00:48:13,947
Speaker 3: in New Zealand Nepbule Players Association Executive manner just Steph

930
00:48:13,947 --> 00:48:16,627
Speaker 3: Bond to get a Pliers Association view on this. Steph,

931
00:48:16,787 --> 00:48:19,187
Speaker 3: thanks for your time. Are you surprised first of all

932
00:48:19,187 --> 00:48:22,187
Speaker 3: that no resolution has been reached here between Netble, New

933
00:48:22,267 --> 00:48:23,947
Speaker 3: Zealand And and Dan Nolen.

934
00:48:25,027 --> 00:48:26,907
Speaker 7: Look, we know that there's been a lot of conversations

935
00:48:26,907 --> 00:48:29,347
Speaker 7: that have happened over the last couple of months, so

936
00:48:30,427 --> 00:48:34,987
Speaker 7: the fact that they haven't reached a resolution is surprising

937
00:48:35,027 --> 00:48:37,707
Speaker 7: to us. But I think like our immediate reaction is

938
00:48:37,747 --> 00:48:40,907
Speaker 7: it's just really incredibly sad and difficult for everyone concerned

939
00:48:40,907 --> 00:48:43,107
Speaker 7: at the moment. And I know the impact of this

940
00:48:43,187 --> 00:48:46,667
Speaker 7: process has really been significant for the entire network community.

941
00:48:46,827 --> 00:48:50,267
Speaker 7: So everyone wants it to end. Everyone wants a decision

942
00:48:50,267 --> 00:48:52,787
Speaker 7: to be made. So I think that's where everyone is

943
00:48:52,787 --> 00:48:53,747
Speaker 7: at at this point in time.

944
00:48:54,147 --> 00:48:57,347
Speaker 3: What is the Pliers Association's role in the situation?

945
00:48:58,427 --> 00:49:01,187
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Power Association hasn't been involved in the current

946
00:49:01,787 --> 00:49:06,987
Speaker 7: between Edwin new Ellen and Dame Norley Tarr an employment

947
00:49:06,987 --> 00:49:10,707
Speaker 7: process and so it is between the employer and the employee.

948
00:49:11,027 --> 00:49:14,147
Speaker 7: Our role across the last couple of months, and our

949
00:49:14,227 --> 00:49:17,627
Speaker 7: role in general is to receive feedback from the players

950
00:49:17,667 --> 00:49:21,347
Speaker 7: and present players players views to meet Bonzellen and that

951
00:49:21,667 --> 00:49:25,307
Speaker 7: has been what has happened for the period of time

952
00:49:25,347 --> 00:49:26,587
Speaker 7: that we have been part of this.

953
00:49:27,627 --> 00:49:30,147
Speaker 3: How much has this divided the playing group?

954
00:49:31,507 --> 00:49:35,587
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's an interesting question and I think everyone publicly

955
00:49:35,667 --> 00:49:38,107
Speaker 7: has seen that there has been some divide between the group.

956
00:49:38,187 --> 00:49:43,427
Speaker 7: But all players, like in UNI sporting and teams, will

957
00:49:43,427 --> 00:49:47,067
Speaker 7: have different opinions and different experiences, and their perspective can

958
00:49:47,467 --> 00:49:50,227
Speaker 7: often be different, and I think we just need to

959
00:49:50,267 --> 00:49:53,227
Speaker 7: recognize that and know that everyone in that environment has

960
00:49:53,987 --> 00:49:57,427
Speaker 7: has a different experience of where it's come from.

961
00:49:58,067 --> 00:50:01,427
Speaker 3: How do you, as a player's association navigate the fact

962
00:50:01,427 --> 00:50:04,347
Speaker 3: that you've got players on both sides of this issue.

963
00:50:05,507 --> 00:50:08,667
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, we we have to represent all players in that,

964
00:50:08,787 --> 00:50:11,867
Speaker 7: so we will be representing all players views to Netble

965
00:50:11,907 --> 00:50:16,227
Speaker 7: New Zealand around this process. So I think that's a

966
00:50:16,267 --> 00:50:18,827
Speaker 7: really important role that we're here to be the player's

967
00:50:18,907 --> 00:50:21,507
Speaker 7: most intimactual that the players are heard throughout this process.

968
00:50:21,787 --> 00:50:23,867
Speaker 3: So even though that is your role to play, you

969
00:50:23,947 --> 00:50:27,187
Speaker 3: are the player's voice. You don't have a specific role

970
00:50:27,587 --> 00:50:30,747
Speaker 3: in the mediation. You don't present the players views during

971
00:50:30,787 --> 00:50:31,307
Speaker 3: the mediation.

972
00:50:32,227 --> 00:50:35,627
Speaker 7: The mediation though, that's up to New Zealand and Dame

973
00:50:35,707 --> 00:50:39,347
Speaker 7: Nolan Tado And it's an employment process and we're not

974
00:50:39,427 --> 00:50:41,667
Speaker 7: part of that process and it's not for us to

975
00:50:41,707 --> 00:50:45,307
Speaker 7: determine who the coach is here. Our role is to

976
00:50:45,307 --> 00:50:48,227
Speaker 7: put feedback forward from the players and it's an employment

977
00:50:48,307 --> 00:50:50,467
Speaker 7: context and it's the employer to determine that.

978
00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:51,907
Speaker 3: All right, I'm just trying to get my head run

979
00:50:51,947 --> 00:50:55,067
Speaker 3: the processes, Steff. So you give feedback on behalf of

980
00:50:55,067 --> 00:50:57,587
Speaker 3: the players to Netborn New Zealand and they in turn

981
00:50:58,347 --> 00:51:00,707
Speaker 3: use that as part of the mediation process.

982
00:51:00,747 --> 00:51:01,227
Speaker 5: Is that right?

983
00:51:01,907 --> 00:51:07,067
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like we've provided fearback initially fronts as part of

984
00:51:07,387 --> 00:51:12,347
Speaker 7: that process, and the players have also been with facilitator

985
00:51:12,387 --> 00:51:14,867
Speaker 7: meetings between the players and when we yell and around

986
00:51:14,947 --> 00:51:16,867
Speaker 7: the process. So that's how it's played out.

987
00:51:17,587 --> 00:51:21,787
Speaker 3: How many players are involved here, Yeah, we can't.

988
00:51:21,547 --> 00:51:25,867
Speaker 7: Really comment on the specifics of the process, but there

989
00:51:25,947 --> 00:51:28,587
Speaker 7: is no doubt that we would have hoped initially that

990
00:51:28,707 --> 00:51:31,467
Speaker 7: more players were involved in the process and that more

991
00:51:31,507 --> 00:51:32,507
Speaker 7: players were spoken to it.

992
00:51:32,587 --> 00:51:33,947
Speaker 11: But that is net New.

993
00:51:33,947 --> 00:51:37,707
Speaker 7: Zealand's process to run, and that was not how it

994
00:51:37,947 --> 00:51:39,427
Speaker 7: was played out.

995
00:51:39,827 --> 00:51:42,507
Speaker 3: So just expand on that for us. Then they're just

996
00:51:42,587 --> 00:51:46,547
Speaker 3: taking just a small portion of player views into their

997
00:51:46,587 --> 00:51:47,107
Speaker 3: thinking here.

998
00:51:48,107 --> 00:51:51,627
Speaker 7: No sorry. Initially, as part of the initial arm review,

999
00:51:51,867 --> 00:51:55,027
Speaker 7: our position was that they should have taken the view

1000
00:51:55,427 --> 00:51:58,667
Speaker 7: of every player and that's how the reviews should have

1001
00:51:58,667 --> 00:52:01,507
Speaker 7: played out. Now every player has had the opportunity to

1002
00:52:02,187 --> 00:52:04,987
Speaker 7: have their opinion and view taken forward by Netwin Zone.

1003
00:52:05,667 --> 00:52:07,427
Speaker 3: Have some has changed their view?

1004
00:52:10,307 --> 00:52:14,667
Speaker 7: No, Look, I think players obviously at different points and times,

1005
00:52:14,667 --> 00:52:20,427
Speaker 7: have different experiences and their views may differ at different times.

1006
00:52:20,467 --> 00:52:23,187
Speaker 7: And I think we've seen with the public process and

1007
00:52:23,227 --> 00:52:26,547
Speaker 7: everything that's played out that at times people have had

1008
00:52:26,587 --> 00:52:29,027
Speaker 7: different views in different ways of looking at things.

1009
00:52:29,827 --> 00:52:36,987
Speaker 3: What is your preferred outcome here, steph.

1010
00:52:35,027 --> 00:52:37,667
Speaker 7: Oh, We don't have a preferred outcomes. That's up to

1011
00:52:37,867 --> 00:52:42,107
Speaker 7: when Ellen and Dame Nolean. We're not here to determine

1012
00:52:42,107 --> 00:52:45,387
Speaker 7: an outcome from this process. And we really here as

1013
00:52:45,387 --> 00:52:48,707
Speaker 7: for our members to be really operating in a really

1014
00:52:48,827 --> 00:52:52,347
Speaker 7: hard working, professional, healthy environment which really allows them to thrive.

1015
00:52:52,427 --> 00:52:55,347
Speaker 7: And I think that's probably really important here in terms

1016
00:52:55,747 --> 00:52:57,787
Speaker 7: of making sure that that's what we have. So it

1017
00:52:57,867 --> 00:53:00,507
Speaker 7: is definitely not our role to determine what the outcome is.

1018
00:53:00,827 --> 00:53:03,907
Speaker 3: So you don't have a view on whether you think

1019
00:53:03,987 --> 00:53:07,027
Speaker 3: Dame Nolen should or will come back as head coach.

1020
00:53:08,427 --> 00:53:11,747
Speaker 7: No, we don't have a view, all.

1021
00:53:11,667 --> 00:53:14,587
Speaker 3: Right, Steph, thank you very much for joining us. Steph

1022
00:53:14,587 --> 00:53:18,787
Speaker 3: Bond their New Zealand Netball Players Association executive manager before

1023
00:53:18,787 --> 00:53:23,187
Speaker 3: that Netball New Zealand CEO. Jenny Wiey, your thoughts welcome

1024
00:53:23,227 --> 00:53:27,307
Speaker 3: on this, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. But

1025
00:53:27,427 --> 00:53:29,067
Speaker 3: doing the show for a while and I don't think

1026
00:53:29,067 --> 00:53:31,747
Speaker 3: I've seen as many texts come in on an issue

1027
00:53:31,947 --> 00:53:35,347
Speaker 3: or on an interview as I have today. I think

1028
00:53:35,347 --> 00:53:39,147
Speaker 3: it's fairly obvious that Dame Nolen toadoo I won't be

1029
00:53:39,187 --> 00:53:41,547
Speaker 3: coming back to coach the Silver Firts. I hate to

1030
00:53:41,587 --> 00:53:44,027
Speaker 3: break this to you. I'm sure you've worked it out yourself.

1031
00:53:44,027 --> 00:53:46,827
Speaker 3: If they haven't been able to work through these issues

1032
00:53:47,427 --> 00:53:50,707
Speaker 3: despite days of mediation, they are not going to be

1033
00:53:50,787 --> 00:53:55,027
Speaker 3: able to They've reached them in pass. There are clearly

1034
00:53:55,147 --> 00:53:58,627
Speaker 3: certain points over which the two parties Nepble New Zealands

1035
00:53:59,227 --> 00:54:03,227
Speaker 3: and Dave Nolean simply cannot reach agreement or even reach compromise.

1036
00:54:04,947 --> 00:54:08,587
Speaker 3: Jenny Wiley wouldn't even con firm then that mediation will continue.

1037
00:54:10,067 --> 00:54:16,987
Speaker 3: If it doesn't, then what what next? Now? Dame Nolen

1038
00:54:17,027 --> 00:54:19,707
Speaker 3: Toto released a statement to One News yesterday. She said,

1039
00:54:19,707 --> 00:54:21,947
Speaker 3: I'm going to read this. I cared deeply about the

1040
00:54:21,987 --> 00:54:24,627
Speaker 3: Silver Ferns and want to be back coaching the team.

1041
00:54:25,227 --> 00:54:28,107
Speaker 3: I have seen the media's statement issued by Netball New

1042
00:54:28,187 --> 00:54:33,507
Speaker 3: Zealand setting out their views. My views are different end quote,

1043
00:54:34,587 --> 00:54:37,307
Speaker 3: and Dave Nolin Toto said she wouldn't be commenting anymore

1044
00:54:37,347 --> 00:54:41,067
Speaker 3: at this time. Now that interested me. My views are

1045
00:54:41,107 --> 00:54:43,707
Speaker 3: different from the Netball New Zealand statement, she says. Now.

1046
00:54:43,987 --> 00:54:47,867
Speaker 3: Netborn New Zealand statement says, despite considerable and genuine effort

1047
00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:50,667
Speaker 3: from Netburn New Zealand and Dame Nolen Toto, a resolution

1048
00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:53,947
Speaker 3: regarding the Silver Fern's high performance program and environment has

1049
00:54:53,987 --> 00:54:56,027
Speaker 3: not yet been reached. Well that's a fact. That's not

1050
00:54:56,107 --> 00:54:59,227
Speaker 3: a view, it's the next. But over the past few weeks,

1051
00:54:59,347 --> 00:55:03,307
Speaker 3: Netball New Zealand has pursued every pathway with Dame Nolen

1052
00:55:03,387 --> 00:55:06,787
Speaker 3: to bring her back into the Silver Ferns enviroral. At

1053
00:55:06,787 --> 00:55:10,147
Speaker 3: this time, NETBA New Zealand is disappointed that this has

1054
00:55:10,187 --> 00:55:14,027
Speaker 3: not been possible. Dame Nolene says her views are different,

1055
00:55:14,147 --> 00:55:21,347
Speaker 3: so presumably she believes that they haven't pursued every pathway.

1056
00:55:22,067 --> 00:55:27,067
Speaker 3: Whatever you believe, whoever you believe, whoever you think is

1057
00:55:27,147 --> 00:55:31,107
Speaker 3: at fault, whatever you think of the process. This is

1058
00:55:32,107 --> 00:55:38,747
Speaker 3: a tremendously unfortunate and quite frankly, extremely sad series of

1059
00:55:38,787 --> 00:55:45,787
Speaker 3: events enveloping one of our biggest sports a division in

1060
00:55:45,827 --> 00:55:50,027
Speaker 3: the Silver Ferns, over the way they're coached and the

1061
00:55:50,067 --> 00:55:56,147
Speaker 3: way they're coached by our greatest ever coach. I just

1062
00:55:56,147 --> 00:55:59,347
Speaker 3: feel now a sense of great sadness for those involved

1063
00:55:59,387 --> 00:56:05,427
Speaker 3: in the sport. As I say, it seems highly unlikely

1064
00:56:05,507 --> 00:56:09,027
Speaker 3: now to me that Dave Nolene told her will ever

1065
00:56:09,067 --> 00:56:14,067
Speaker 3: coach the Silver Ferns again. She clearly wants to. I

1066
00:56:14,107 --> 00:56:17,347
Speaker 3: think the weight of public opinion is on her side,

1067
00:56:18,267 --> 00:56:21,027
Speaker 3: but I can't see, given the events of the last

1068
00:56:21,027 --> 00:56:24,667
Speaker 3: few days and what we heard from Jenny Wiley and

1069
00:56:24,667 --> 00:56:28,067
Speaker 3: what I've read in this statement, that there is a

1070
00:56:28,107 --> 00:56:34,547
Speaker 3: way back. Sometimes agreement can't be reached in employment matters,

1071
00:56:35,147 --> 00:56:40,667
Speaker 3: in relationship matters. Sometimes things can't be worked through.

1072
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Speaker 17: Hey, Sam, Yeah, Hi, I think overall feeling here is

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Speaker 17: just confusion. The messaging coming from the next CEO and

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Speaker 17: then Grace Wiki coming out after the last game to

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Speaker 17: talk about how the players giving their support behind Nolin.

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Speaker 17: It's just news can't help but being confused to the

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00:57:07,587 --> 00:57:10,867
Speaker 17: whole situation, to be honest, Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's I guess why we would like some form

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00:57:13,947 --> 00:57:17,547
Speaker 3: of transparency. We had a legal opinion on the show yesterday, Sam,

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00:57:17,627 --> 00:57:18,947
Speaker 3: he might not have heard it, saying, hey, it would

1081
00:57:18,947 --> 00:57:21,067
Speaker 3: be helpful at least for us to know what the

1082
00:57:21,147 --> 00:57:24,827
Speaker 3: issues are. But Jenny Wiley just seemed either unwilling or

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00:57:24,907 --> 00:57:26,107
Speaker 3: unable to tell us what they were.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and just that, Yeah, some transparency would because surely

1085
00:57:32,787 --> 00:57:35,547
Speaker 18: we can get some sort of hunters to what the

1086
00:57:35,667 --> 00:57:39,587
Speaker 18: sticking point is without actually specifically naming names or anything

1087
00:57:39,667 --> 00:57:39,867
Speaker 18: like that.

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00:57:40,467 --> 00:57:42,587
Speaker 3: I would have thought so, Sam, I would have thought so, mate.

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00:57:43,227 --> 00:57:45,227
Speaker 3: You know, and it talks about the high performance environment,

1090
00:57:45,267 --> 00:57:47,747
Speaker 3: and Dame Nolen's just one member of that high performance environment.

1091
00:57:47,787 --> 00:57:50,587
Speaker 3: Clearly it's about her. Otherwise, you know, there be others

1092
00:57:50,627 --> 00:57:54,707
Speaker 3: involved in this, but at least say that. And I

1093
00:57:54,827 --> 00:57:57,547
Speaker 3: asked Jenny Wiley the direct question, is this just around

1094
00:57:57,627 --> 00:58:00,147
Speaker 3: Dan Nolean? And even then there was no answer. Thank Sam,

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00:58:00,187 --> 00:58:01,667
Speaker 3: Drive safe mate, Hello Jason.

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00:58:03,187 --> 00:58:05,347
Speaker 19: Yeah, thanks on palf of us all of going through

1097
00:58:05,387 --> 00:58:08,507
Speaker 19: that rather few to exercise with Genny Wiley trying to

1098
00:58:08,587 --> 00:58:12,587
Speaker 19: extract answers to questions we've all got. I felt sorry

1099
00:58:12,667 --> 00:58:16,627
Speaker 19: for her. I was absolutely irate hearing her she read

1100
00:58:16,667 --> 00:58:18,307
Speaker 19: that from a notebook in front of her or from

1101
00:58:18,307 --> 00:58:20,987
Speaker 19: a lawyer's script. She did more damage from the Zeller

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Speaker 19: Netball coming on with you for that ten minutes. Then

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00:58:24,507 --> 00:58:27,147
Speaker 19: had she not come on talk because she told us

1104
00:58:27,187 --> 00:58:31,427
Speaker 19: absolutely only what we've written in the newspaper. I'm bringing question,

1105
00:58:31,587 --> 00:58:35,187
Speaker 19: Piet I've got is Nole in time has been you

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00:58:35,267 --> 00:58:39,067
Speaker 19: know done, Nolan's been stood down? If it's an equal

1107
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,387
Speaker 19: fear transparent process. She keep going on about, is any

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00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:45,267
Speaker 19: of the high performance players in the netball squad stood down?

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Speaker 3: No, no, they haven't been. But I get. But the

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00:58:50,187 --> 00:58:52,227
Speaker 3: way these things work, though, Jay says, I'm sure you know,

1111
00:58:52,707 --> 00:58:55,507
Speaker 3: is that if there's a complaint against somebody, then that

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00:58:55,707 --> 00:59:00,187
Speaker 3: person can be stood down. It's an employment matter, right,

1113
00:59:00,307 --> 00:59:03,147
Speaker 3: It's an employment matter. And often this happens in the

1114
00:59:03,227 --> 00:59:07,827
Speaker 3: corporate world. There are concerns raised, complaints made about somebody

1115
00:59:07,907 --> 00:59:10,227
Speaker 3: in a position of authority, a manager and in this

1116
00:59:10,307 --> 00:59:15,747
Speaker 3: case of coach, and while that investigation is seen through.

1117
00:59:16,187 --> 00:59:19,027
Speaker 3: It is the person who the concerns are raised about

1118
00:59:19,147 --> 00:59:22,187
Speaker 3: who has stood down, not those who raise the concerns.

1119
00:59:22,867 --> 00:59:25,907
Speaker 3: But I appreciate your call and perhaps your confusion as well.

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Speaker 3: One twenty five lines are open. They're filling up quite

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Speaker 3: We'll try and get through as many as we can.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty back with more

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Speaker 3: a moment on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 20: Hello, Wayne, Hey, Piney, first time caller, Love the show, buddy, mate,

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Speaker 20: just on this netboard thing. I'm just so so disappointed

1130
00:59:55,307 --> 01:00:00,467
Speaker 20: and confused like the other callers, and this I think

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01:00:00,507 --> 01:00:03,507
Speaker 20: your name with Jenny Wiley, I don't know where where

1132
01:00:03,667 --> 01:00:06,027
Speaker 20: his head at, buddy, but we need to do something

1133
01:00:06,027 --> 01:00:10,307
Speaker 20: about it. And I'm I'm not a nep for I

1134
01:00:10,347 --> 01:00:12,547
Speaker 20: don't watch Nipple much, but I love watching our silver

1135
01:00:12,667 --> 01:00:16,107
Speaker 20: phns and I stand up for Grace and who's saying

1136
01:00:16,147 --> 01:00:19,347
Speaker 20: what what she did say at their last game?

1137
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Speaker 5: And and good on her.

1138
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Speaker 20: Appointed because she's a senior player, player, world respected and

1139
01:00:25,427 --> 01:00:28,787
Speaker 20: I just don't understand pointed like Dame noleeds our best

1140
01:00:28,787 --> 01:00:31,987
Speaker 20: crease that we've ever had and we'll we'll ever have

1141
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Speaker 20: And I just I just want to as a as

1142
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Speaker 20: a as a human being, I just want an answer.

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01:00:37,707 --> 01:00:39,467
Speaker 20: I just want to know what's going on, Like she's

1144
01:00:39,547 --> 01:00:42,547
Speaker 20: not going to be there for the Aussie and I

1145
01:00:42,627 --> 01:00:45,147
Speaker 20: don't know if she's going to come back. But very disappointed, buddy.

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01:00:47,707 --> 01:00:49,027
Speaker 3: No, good on you, mate, thanks for calling and I

1147
01:00:49,027 --> 01:00:51,067
Speaker 3: appreciate you you picking up the phone and giving us

1148
01:00:51,067 --> 01:00:51,347
Speaker 3: a yell.

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01:00:51,387 --> 01:00:51,587
Speaker 12: Mate.

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01:00:52,867 --> 01:00:55,027
Speaker 3: There's been a suggestion on texting it, and look, I

1151
01:00:55,627 --> 01:00:58,707
Speaker 3: take this. I take this opinion that you know it

1152
01:00:58,827 --> 01:01:01,507
Speaker 3: is a private matter. It is confident, as Jenny Whiley

1153
01:01:01,587 --> 01:01:06,027
Speaker 3: said a number of times, but she also admitted that

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01:01:07,627 --> 01:01:10,707
Speaker 3: this is a high performing New Zealand sports team that

1155
01:01:10,867 --> 01:01:15,947
Speaker 3: we all as sports fans feel ownership over, and we

1156
01:01:16,067 --> 01:01:18,587
Speaker 3: are going to want to know what's going on with

1157
01:01:18,707 --> 01:01:23,827
Speaker 3: the team that we have followed and supported and cheered

1158
01:01:23,987 --> 01:01:28,667
Speaker 3: for and loved watching for so long. And when we

1159
01:01:28,707 --> 01:01:31,507
Speaker 3: feel as though there's something not quite right, we are

1160
01:01:31,747 --> 01:01:35,267
Speaker 3: entitled to an opinion on it. We're a title to

1161
01:01:35,827 --> 01:01:39,427
Speaker 3: look at a situation where the coach has been stood

1162
01:01:39,507 --> 01:01:43,627
Speaker 3: down because of concerns over the way she coaches or

1163
01:01:43,667 --> 01:01:45,947
Speaker 3: the way she operates in a high performance environment. We

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01:01:46,107 --> 01:01:47,507
Speaker 3: are allowed to have an opinion about that.

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Speaker 13: We are.

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Speaker 5: Look.

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Speaker 3: I try my best to get something out of Jenny Wiley.

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01:01:53,547 --> 01:01:55,307
Speaker 3: There was not a lot to be had there, I

1169
01:01:55,427 --> 01:01:59,347
Speaker 3: must admit. But if we are putting two and two

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01:01:59,387 --> 01:02:01,907
Speaker 3: together here, I think the sum we're getting is that

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Speaker 3: she ain't coming back. That's how it feels to me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you might have a different Wayne. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for your call, mate, John High.

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Speaker 21: Finally, they're getting taxpayers money, so the Minister of Sports

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01:02:14,427 --> 01:02:17,627
Speaker 21: to be brought in and there should be a review

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01:02:18,267 --> 01:02:20,507
Speaker 21: or when the pricess is off it should be out

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Speaker 21: to the public din and released.

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Speaker 3: There is that part of it, John, You're right. They

1179
01:02:25,187 --> 01:02:29,147
Speaker 3: are funded through partly anyway, through high Performance Sport New

1180
01:02:29,227 --> 01:02:32,827
Speaker 3: Zealand and through our taxpayer dollars. So yes, we do

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01:02:33,027 --> 01:02:36,187
Speaker 3: have so I guess you know there is there is

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01:02:36,227 --> 01:02:37,707
Speaker 3: perhaps that layer to it as well.

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Speaker 21: Yep, there has to be a hireling.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, thanks John, I appreciate it. Oh one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten grant high.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, pioneer when this first blew up and okay, it

1187
01:02:53,667 --> 01:02:57,467
Speaker 22: happened apparently at the January training camp way back in January,

1188
01:02:57,867 --> 01:03:00,107
Speaker 22: and it was about two weeks before the South African

1189
01:03:00,267 --> 01:03:05,707
Speaker 22: series that they finally decided to take some action. And

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Speaker 22: Dane knowline that was the first she heard about it.

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01:03:09,147 --> 01:03:13,067
Speaker 22: Matt Whinner, the chairman, was doing all the talking about

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Speaker 22: it at the start, and he was asked, well, we're

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Speaker 22: CEO Jenny Wiley, and he said, and I quote on

1194
01:03:18,947 --> 01:03:23,667
Speaker 22: TV she is on stressly then she eventually fronts up

1195
01:03:23,747 --> 01:03:27,507
Speaker 22: and says, no, I was on a pre planned holiday. Now,

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01:03:27,627 --> 01:03:29,747
Speaker 22: both of those things can't be true, so they can't

1197
01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:34,827
Speaker 22: even get their stories straight. But a previous ORTISA might

1198
01:03:34,867 --> 01:03:40,427
Speaker 22: have been mentioning about public funding and things are different

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Speaker 22: as regards what they can say what they can't say

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01:03:44,307 --> 01:03:48,787
Speaker 22: it with a publicly funded sports organization compared to a

1201
01:03:48,907 --> 01:03:52,267
Speaker 22: private organization. I mean, you look at sort of league

1202
01:03:52,307 --> 01:03:57,907
Speaker 22: in Australia, soccer in the UK. There's always information coming

1203
01:03:57,987 --> 01:04:01,507
Speaker 22: out of those problems with the manager. You know, they

1204
01:04:01,587 --> 01:04:06,947
Speaker 22: tell the public what the general problem is. So I

1205
01:04:07,147 --> 01:04:09,627
Speaker 22: just think they're going about it completely the wrong way,

1206
01:04:09,707 --> 01:04:12,507
Speaker 22: and I have to say this is the worst handle

1207
01:04:14,347 --> 01:04:20,547
Speaker 22: administration of whatever's happened. They've handled the worst of any

1208
01:04:20,667 --> 01:04:24,227
Speaker 22: sports organization. There have been some problems in swimming and rowing,

1209
01:04:24,427 --> 01:04:25,867
Speaker 22: but it's the worst I can remember.

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Speaker 3: Grant. Thank you for your call. I do have to

1211
01:04:29,307 --> 01:04:31,347
Speaker 3: give Jenny Whitey credit for coming on the show. She

1212
01:04:31,467 --> 01:04:35,147
Speaker 3: didn't have to, she didn't have to come on, so

1213
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Speaker 3: I do give her credit for that. They're the whole,

1214
01:04:38,587 --> 01:04:42,987
Speaker 3: the whole. Her being away when this decision to stand

1215
01:04:43,427 --> 01:04:48,947
Speaker 3: day knolling down happened was a bit odd, and like you, Grant,

1216
01:04:48,947 --> 01:04:50,587
Speaker 3: I couldn't really get my head around whether it was

1217
01:04:50,947 --> 01:04:55,347
Speaker 3: whether she was on planned leave, whether she was away

1218
01:04:55,467 --> 01:05:01,547
Speaker 3: watching an underage netball team play overseas. My personal view

1219
01:05:01,627 --> 01:05:03,747
Speaker 3: is that as CEO of an organization, if you make

1220
01:05:03,787 --> 01:05:07,307
Speaker 3: a call to stand down one of your top employees,

1221
01:05:07,747 --> 01:05:09,827
Speaker 3: and let's bring this into a sporting sense, if you're

1222
01:05:09,827 --> 01:05:11,547
Speaker 3: a CEO of Netborne, New Zealand and you stand down

1223
01:05:11,547 --> 01:05:13,947
Speaker 3: your head coach, you need to be there. You need

1224
01:05:13,987 --> 01:05:15,387
Speaker 3: to put that leave off for a couple of days.

1225
01:05:15,587 --> 01:05:18,627
Speaker 3: You need to be there. Makes sense, Mark Eye.

1226
01:05:20,067 --> 01:05:23,027
Speaker 11: Two words finy reputational risk.

1227
01:05:24,267 --> 01:05:29,867
Speaker 12: Jenny Wiley has now cast a cloud over netball New Zealand.

1228
01:05:31,027 --> 01:05:34,267
Speaker 12: They are not transparent. She has not come out and said, given,

1229
01:05:34,307 --> 01:05:38,827
Speaker 12: as you rightfully pointed out, no justificational reasoning, even in

1230
01:05:38,907 --> 01:05:43,147
Speaker 12: a very broad sense where you'd say, look outside of

1231
01:05:43,227 --> 01:05:48,667
Speaker 12: the game environment, we're having challenges. Right then you'd know, okay,

1232
01:05:48,867 --> 01:05:51,987
Speaker 12: off field, right, okay, what's going on? Is it to

1233
01:05:52,107 --> 01:05:54,507
Speaker 12: do with sponsors and relationships? Is it to do with

1234
01:05:54,667 --> 01:05:59,987
Speaker 12: internal relationships with Jenny Wiley herself considering the stress leave

1235
01:06:00,707 --> 01:06:02,867
Speaker 12: claim that she had to go off after doing this

1236
01:06:03,027 --> 01:06:07,507
Speaker 12: to Dame Knowles? Is she too personally and wrapped up

1237
01:06:07,747 --> 01:06:12,307
Speaker 12: and using for one of a better word, corporate justifications

1238
01:06:13,467 --> 01:06:18,147
Speaker 12: in a sport that is still the biggest woman's participation

1239
01:06:18,307 --> 01:06:22,067
Speaker 12: sport in New Zealand by far, the biggest women's organization

1240
01:06:22,267 --> 01:06:27,707
Speaker 12: in New Zealand by far, and we're not seeing an

1241
01:06:27,787 --> 01:06:32,667
Speaker 12: approach that is respectful of the audience, the community around

1242
01:06:32,747 --> 01:06:36,427
Speaker 12: the game, and also the reputation of the Silver Ferns.

1243
01:06:37,067 --> 01:06:41,027
Speaker 12: Because right now, so if I was flip this over

1244
01:06:41,107 --> 01:06:44,027
Speaker 12: to rugby union, right and our other premiere sports, so

1245
01:06:44,107 --> 01:06:46,547
Speaker 12: flip it over and put the exact same scenario in.

1246
01:06:48,267 --> 01:06:50,147
Speaker 12: Do you think the sponsors would be on the phone

1247
01:06:51,107 --> 01:06:54,947
Speaker 12: to the NZRUS what is going on. You had better

1248
01:06:55,027 --> 01:06:57,627
Speaker 12: tell us what is happening inside this organization right now,

1249
01:06:57,707 --> 01:07:00,627
Speaker 12: or we are pulling our money because you are exposing

1250
01:07:00,747 --> 01:07:04,067
Speaker 12: us to making us look like fools. And I would

1251
01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:06,987
Speaker 12: say that to any of the sponsors of of Netball

1252
01:07:07,067 --> 01:07:10,507
Speaker 12: New Zealand, use your leverage, get in there and find

1253
01:07:10,547 --> 01:07:14,867
Speaker 12: out what earth is going on, because we're not being told.

1254
01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:20,027
Speaker 12: We're being obsifocation, obsivacated, it's the word I'm looking for

1255
01:07:20,467 --> 01:07:23,747
Speaker 12: where they're just flapping around the outside of it without

1256
01:07:23,827 --> 01:07:27,227
Speaker 12: dealing with the meat of the matter. But sometimes, and

1257
01:07:27,507 --> 01:07:30,267
Speaker 12: I'll be very delicate out of this, sometimes within women's

1258
01:07:30,387 --> 01:07:36,067
Speaker 12: organizations there are issues between women cement real lady stuff

1259
01:07:36,147 --> 01:07:40,067
Speaker 12: that RUS guys don't understand. We have a fight and

1260
01:07:40,187 --> 01:07:42,787
Speaker 12: be done with it. But there can be things like that,

1261
01:07:43,787 --> 01:07:46,867
Speaker 12: so we don't know, so we're speculating, and that's not

1262
01:07:47,027 --> 01:07:51,107
Speaker 12: great because we'll all speculate potentially the worst thing, or

1263
01:07:51,187 --> 01:07:56,747
Speaker 12: we'll be way off target. But again, it's a mess

1264
01:07:57,867 --> 01:08:00,747
Speaker 12: that are coming on your show has only made it worse.

1265
01:08:02,707 --> 01:08:05,067
Speaker 3: Mirk, thank you for your cale and you're well articulated

1266
01:08:05,107 --> 01:08:08,827
Speaker 3: thoughts and a silence. You're right. We we fill it

1267
01:08:08,907 --> 01:08:13,427
Speaker 3: with things that we suspect could be true but maybe

1268
01:08:13,507 --> 01:08:17,787
Speaker 3: not true. John High good a piney.

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01:08:17,867 --> 01:08:18,707
Speaker 11: How are you good?

1270
01:08:18,787 --> 01:08:18,987
Speaker 5: John?

1271
01:08:19,107 --> 01:08:22,427
Speaker 23: People are really mad about this thing that looked like

1272
01:08:22,587 --> 01:08:30,027
Speaker 23: the skates may be under Dame Dame Noldine. She she

1273
01:08:30,147 --> 01:08:33,027
Speaker 23: would be under contract, of course, and she will be

1274
01:08:33,107 --> 01:08:36,107
Speaker 23: paid out. I hope, like hell they don't try and

1275
01:08:36,227 --> 01:08:40,467
Speaker 23: blackmail her and say, you before we pay you, you've

1276
01:08:40,467 --> 01:08:45,187
Speaker 23: got to sign this confidentially agreement, confidential confidential agreement that

1277
01:08:45,307 --> 01:08:46,227
Speaker 23: you won't talk about it.

1278
01:08:46,627 --> 01:08:49,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not John, Yeah, that's yeah, that's not blackmail.

1279
01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:53,147
Speaker 3: That's that is that that's common as a non disclosure agreement.

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01:08:53,467 --> 01:08:55,187
Speaker 3: That's not blackmail. But I get the feeling, mate, that

1281
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Speaker 3: that is exactly what will happen, that that shall be

1282
01:08:57,747 --> 01:08:59,427
Speaker 3: paid out for a contract which runs through to the

1283
01:08:59,547 --> 01:09:02,347
Speaker 3: end of next year, as I understand it, and will

1284
01:09:02,387 --> 01:09:06,107
Speaker 3: be will be paid out on the under the requirement

1285
01:09:06,147 --> 01:09:08,827
Speaker 3: that she does not speak publicly about what has gone on.

1286
01:09:08,947 --> 01:09:11,307
Speaker 3: That's very common in the corporate world. I get the

1287
01:09:11,347 --> 01:09:13,907
Speaker 3: feeling that's exactly what will happen here, if in fact

1288
01:09:13,947 --> 01:09:15,307
Speaker 3: this is the end of the line for her.

1289
01:09:16,267 --> 01:09:18,267
Speaker 23: Yeah, Okay, Thank you Piney.

1290
01:09:18,387 --> 01:09:20,547
Speaker 3: Good on your John. Thanks for your call, mate, appreciate it.

1291
01:09:22,587 --> 01:09:24,307
Speaker 3: I think we'll leave it there. Let's get onto some

1292
01:09:24,427 --> 01:09:27,227
Speaker 3: brighter matters. I think we should get onto some brighter matters.

1293
01:09:27,427 --> 01:09:29,187
Speaker 3: Thank you for all your calls and correspondence. I have

1294
01:09:29,387 --> 01:09:33,387
Speaker 3: never seen the news talks there'd be text machine blow

1295
01:09:33,507 --> 01:09:35,427
Speaker 3: up like it has. Even when we give away tickets,

1296
01:09:36,387 --> 01:09:39,867
Speaker 3: we don't get this many texts. Thank you so much

1297
01:09:39,947 --> 01:09:42,267
Speaker 3: for all of your texts. I often say we can't

1298
01:09:42,267 --> 01:09:43,987
Speaker 3: read them all out, but we can, but we do

1299
01:09:44,147 --> 01:09:46,587
Speaker 3: read them. I haven't had any. We're close to the

1300
01:09:46,627 --> 01:09:50,667
Speaker 3: opportunity to read them all, literally hundreds of texts coming in.

1301
01:09:51,267 --> 01:09:53,827
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for putting your thoughts into your

1302
01:09:53,867 --> 01:09:55,627
Speaker 3: phone and firing it off to us. I will read

1303
01:09:55,667 --> 01:09:58,987
Speaker 3: them all. More to come on this, I'm sure. What

1304
01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:02,147
Speaker 3: we do know is this that if at McCausland jury

1305
01:10:02,227 --> 01:10:06,307
Speaker 3: will take control in an interim capacity of the Silk

1306
01:10:06,587 --> 01:10:11,267
Speaker 3: Ferns for the upcoming Constellation Cup Series four test matches,

1307
01:10:11,547 --> 01:10:14,427
Speaker 3: two away and two at home against Australia, we have

1308
01:10:14,587 --> 01:10:20,147
Speaker 3: the Constellation Cup. Look, none of this has made me

1309
01:10:21,387 --> 01:10:25,267
Speaker 3: support the silver Ferns any less. When that Constellation Cup

1310
01:10:25,387 --> 01:10:28,027
Speaker 3: Series begins. I'm going to be cheering as loudly for

1311
01:10:28,107 --> 01:10:31,907
Speaker 3: that team as I always have, but this can't help

1312
01:10:31,987 --> 01:10:36,107
Speaker 3: but be disruptive. Step Bond said, there is a division

1313
01:10:36,147 --> 01:10:38,667
Speaker 3: in the playing group, of course there is. You can

1314
01:10:38,787 --> 01:10:42,307
Speaker 3: tell we can all put ourselves in a situation like this,

1315
01:10:42,507 --> 01:10:48,267
Speaker 3: where again, let's correlate it to a work situation. Not

1316
01:10:48,427 --> 01:10:51,827
Speaker 3: everybody in your workplace will love your boss. Some will,

1317
01:10:51,907 --> 01:10:58,907
Speaker 3: some won't. And if concerns arise on one side against

1318
01:10:58,947 --> 01:11:01,907
Speaker 3: that manager, and there's others on the other side who

1319
01:11:02,147 --> 01:11:05,587
Speaker 3: think that manager is doing nothing wrong, then there will

1320
01:11:05,667 --> 01:11:10,027
Speaker 3: be division. We're all human, and much as these are

1321
01:11:10,067 --> 01:11:13,947
Speaker 3: high performing elite athletes whose job it is to win

1322
01:11:14,067 --> 01:11:17,307
Speaker 3: netball games, they can't help but be affected by all

1323
01:11:17,347 --> 01:11:22,027
Speaker 3: of this event. McCausland jury, thankfully is a very level

1324
01:11:22,067 --> 01:11:24,707
Speaker 3: headed human being from what I can see and the

1325
01:11:25,107 --> 01:11:28,147
Speaker 3: dealings I've had with her, and she'll need every bit

1326
01:11:28,187 --> 01:11:31,227
Speaker 3: of that diplomacy to pull this team together, because I

1327
01:11:31,267 --> 01:11:33,827
Speaker 3: think in the South African series, the Tiny Jamison series,

1328
01:11:34,147 --> 01:11:37,187
Speaker 3: there was probably a view that, hey, Dame Knowles is

1329
01:11:37,227 --> 01:11:40,027
Speaker 3: coming back. Grace Weeky got up after the third Test

1330
01:11:40,067 --> 01:11:42,187
Speaker 3: as he had come on to Dame Knowles. We want

1331
01:11:42,267 --> 01:11:45,547
Speaker 3: you back. They thought, I'm sure that this would be resolved.

1332
01:11:45,867 --> 01:11:50,907
Speaker 3: Hasn't been so now EVT mccauseland jury is going to

1333
01:11:50,947 --> 01:11:53,147
Speaker 3: need a bit of diplomacy as well as netball coaching

1334
01:11:53,387 --> 01:11:57,227
Speaker 3: skill to navigate this team through the choppy waters ahead

1335
01:11:57,747 --> 01:11:59,427
Speaker 3: nineteen to two. Let's take a break come back with

1336
01:11:59,547 --> 01:12:01,907
Speaker 3: James mconey here on Newstalk SEB No One.

1337
01:12:02,107 --> 01:12:07,307
Speaker 1: Crutch Hold Engaged Weekends for US with Jason hur and GJ.

1338
01:12:07,507 --> 01:12:11,547
Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted Noviller News Talk to BB.

1339
01:12:11,867 --> 01:12:17,027
Speaker 3: One four NRL Grand Final Preview after two with Jake Duke.

1340
01:12:17,347 --> 01:12:19,987
Speaker 3: James mcconey's here off the back of our netball chat.

1341
01:12:20,067 --> 01:12:24,187
Speaker 3: Thank goodness you're here, James. Good afternoon, Good afternoon.

1342
01:12:24,307 --> 01:12:26,667
Speaker 11: Yes, I'm taking you back to rugby. I hope you

1343
01:12:26,707 --> 01:12:30,747
Speaker 11: don't mind, Poney, but I sort of. I was entranced

1344
01:12:30,787 --> 01:12:32,787
Speaker 11: by that game last night. I felt that there was

1345
01:12:32,787 --> 01:12:34,947
Speaker 11: a lot of even jobs on the line last night.

1346
01:12:35,907 --> 01:12:38,347
Speaker 3: I just thought that your Chiefs players and that team

1347
01:12:38,427 --> 01:12:42,027
Speaker 3: were absolutely magnificent. To a man, Quintu Pie, did you

1348
01:12:42,067 --> 01:12:42,867
Speaker 3: know he was a center?

1349
01:12:44,027 --> 01:12:46,747
Speaker 11: I did, actually, But thank you, Pony, because I'm actually

1350
01:12:46,827 --> 01:12:51,147
Speaker 11: the Chiefs hate hotline unofficially from a lot of my friends.

1351
01:12:51,587 --> 01:12:55,427
Speaker 11: You don't usually use it, but I do feel several

1352
01:12:55,547 --> 01:12:57,987
Speaker 11: calls often if a Chiefs player isn't up to scratch,

1353
01:12:58,107 --> 01:13:00,147
Speaker 11: and I know that it can get a bit weird

1354
01:13:00,187 --> 01:13:02,467
Speaker 11: when fifteen of them are selected in one year for

1355
01:13:02,587 --> 01:13:07,347
Speaker 11: the All Blacks. But yes, Quinti Pier last night, well, yes,

1356
01:13:07,387 --> 01:13:09,507
Speaker 11: he did play center for Hamilton Boys back in the day,

1357
01:13:09,867 --> 01:13:11,747
Speaker 11: and he was a center for Wait Cuttle in the

1358
01:13:11,827 --> 01:13:14,307
Speaker 11: early days. But when he graduated to the Chiefs, of

1359
01:13:14,387 --> 01:13:16,587
Speaker 11: course he was Antonine at Brown in the number thirteen

1360
01:13:16,707 --> 01:13:20,787
Speaker 11: Jersey and Alex Dankeervell, who was a career center if

1361
01:13:20,827 --> 01:13:21,067
Speaker 11: you like.

1362
01:13:21,227 --> 01:13:21,267
Speaker 24: So.

1363
01:13:21,707 --> 01:13:24,307
Speaker 11: So Quentin's slotted in at twelve and he's very good

1364
01:13:24,747 --> 01:13:27,227
Speaker 11: second five. But as you can see, he can play

1365
01:13:27,307 --> 01:13:32,147
Speaker 11: both and it helps when your arms are as strong

1366
01:13:32,187 --> 01:13:32,747
Speaker 11: as your legs.

1367
01:13:33,267 --> 01:13:35,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, and I just love the way he

1368
01:13:35,587 --> 01:13:38,787
Speaker 3: is so direct. A couple of tries, one with a

1369
01:13:39,107 --> 01:13:42,547
Speaker 3: lovely cushioned header from Jordi Barrett that reminded me of

1370
01:13:42,947 --> 01:13:45,667
Speaker 3: Gizurmo Mai from the Auckland f C side. We can

1371
01:13:45,747 --> 01:13:47,707
Speaker 3: get to that later, but actually, can I also ask

1372
01:13:47,787 --> 01:13:50,707
Speaker 3: you about Lee Roy carter Man talk about a duck

1373
01:13:50,787 --> 01:13:52,427
Speaker 3: to water when it comes to test rugby.

1374
01:13:52,507 --> 01:13:55,307
Speaker 11: For that bloke, Yeah, I know, it's just that he's

1375
01:13:55,587 --> 01:13:58,627
Speaker 11: mister energy that energize the bunny right now. And of

1376
01:13:58,747 --> 01:14:02,227
Speaker 11: course if you do have a young let's say, half

1377
01:14:02,307 --> 01:14:04,547
Speaker 11: back like he was, and he was a half back

1378
01:14:04,587 --> 01:14:06,987
Speaker 11: for the Gazella under twenties, which isn't that long ago,

1379
01:14:07,827 --> 01:14:11,267
Speaker 11: and they're super quick and they're very combative and hey,

1380
01:14:11,387 --> 01:14:13,627
Speaker 11: they might just make a great winger. And that's what

1381
01:14:13,787 --> 01:14:16,547
Speaker 11: he is. They call him Bomfa. This are those front

1382
01:14:16,587 --> 01:14:19,787
Speaker 11: one tackles he makes. Yep, he's so impressive and it's

1383
01:14:19,787 --> 01:14:22,507
Speaker 11: against guys who are stepping them and he reads it

1384
01:14:22,747 --> 01:14:27,307
Speaker 11: and smashes them front on. Something to behold. So I

1385
01:14:27,427 --> 01:14:30,307
Speaker 11: think there are Leroy carters buzzing around New Zealand rugby.

1386
01:14:30,587 --> 01:14:32,547
Speaker 11: I played with one of a guy called Matt Sevil

1387
01:14:32,547 --> 01:14:35,107
Speaker 11: who ended up playing the King Country. Here was a

1388
01:14:35,187 --> 01:14:37,427
Speaker 11: half back turned winger. And you know there's a lot

1389
01:14:37,507 --> 01:14:41,147
Speaker 11: of those guys there who just lend themselves to that.

1390
01:14:41,347 --> 01:14:43,427
Speaker 11: And the only quite often you'll only find out that

1391
01:14:43,547 --> 01:14:46,787
Speaker 11: quick at the school athletics day, you know where they

1392
01:14:46,907 --> 01:14:49,987
Speaker 11: scamper away and you go, wait a second, this guy's

1393
01:14:50,027 --> 01:14:52,067
Speaker 11: got wheels, and I'm sure Lero was the same at

1394
01:14:52,147 --> 01:14:52,907
Speaker 11: Total the Boys.

1395
01:14:53,227 --> 01:14:56,267
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was. Yeah, that's why first fifteen rugby

1396
01:14:56,347 --> 01:15:00,827
Speaker 3: coaches are always very interested bystanders at the school athletics day,

1397
01:15:01,307 --> 01:15:03,267
Speaker 3: just to see who's got the wheels, just to see

1398
01:15:03,307 --> 01:15:03,867
Speaker 3: who's quick.

1399
01:15:04,787 --> 01:15:07,507
Speaker 11: Well, one thing as well about he was marking up

1400
01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:10,547
Speaker 11: against Joseph Suerliti and the amount of hype around him

1401
01:15:10,707 --> 01:15:14,067
Speaker 11: is crazy. So let's be honest. Everyone's running with a

1402
01:15:14,187 --> 01:15:16,707
Speaker 11: Quinn can handle it. Well, not only handle it, but

1403
01:15:16,787 --> 01:15:21,067
Speaker 11: he out, you know, overshadowed Joseph and you know, just

1404
01:15:21,187 --> 01:15:23,827
Speaker 11: everything he did. He didn't get the credit, I don't

1405
01:15:23,867 --> 01:15:26,827
Speaker 11: think for that try where he hacked the ball ahead

1406
01:15:26,867 --> 01:15:29,347
Speaker 11: and stayed ahead of all the runners and actually that

1407
01:15:29,547 --> 01:15:32,387
Speaker 11: try was came from a line out win against the

1408
01:15:32,467 --> 01:15:36,907
Speaker 11: throw from Fabian Holland. He's been another rookie who was incredible.

1409
01:15:36,947 --> 01:15:39,987
Speaker 11: I thought last week at Eden Park he won fourteen

1410
01:15:40,067 --> 01:15:43,387
Speaker 11: of the all blacks fifteen lineouts and he just keeps

1411
01:15:43,427 --> 01:15:47,827
Speaker 11: on in terms of unearthing, you know, potential greats. I

1412
01:15:47,867 --> 01:15:49,507
Speaker 11: think Razer's done a really good job there.

1413
01:15:49,987 --> 01:15:52,147
Speaker 3: Just before we move on from the rugby, and if

1414
01:15:52,187 --> 01:15:53,827
Speaker 3: we could move away from the chief just ever so

1415
01:15:53,987 --> 01:15:57,347
Speaker 3: slightly to the Crusaders, to Mighty Williams and Fletcher Nuwell

1416
01:15:57,707 --> 01:16:00,107
Speaker 3: the starting props last night. Cody Taylor was there as well,

1417
01:16:00,147 --> 01:16:02,587
Speaker 3: so let's not forget him and all Crusaders front row,

1418
01:16:02,667 --> 01:16:05,707
Speaker 3: but Williams and Nuwell. I like these guys as well,

1419
01:16:05,787 --> 01:16:07,227
Speaker 3: do you, Yeah?

1420
01:16:07,307 --> 01:16:09,827
Speaker 11: I love I mean I thought that having the Crusader's

1421
01:16:09,867 --> 01:16:13,027
Speaker 11: front row made a big difference with the cohesion at

1422
01:16:13,067 --> 01:16:15,667
Speaker 11: scrum time. But also there was a massive moment when

1423
01:16:15,747 --> 01:16:18,987
Speaker 11: will Skelton picked on Camroyguard in the first minute of

1424
01:16:19,027 --> 01:16:20,987
Speaker 11: the game and seat of ragged old him and pushed

1425
01:16:21,027 --> 01:16:23,747
Speaker 11: him around, and you could see Tomighty Williams was not

1426
01:16:23,827 --> 01:16:26,147
Speaker 11: happy and he wanted to join the ref and having

1427
01:16:26,147 --> 01:16:27,067
Speaker 11: a chat with Skelton.

1428
01:16:27,147 --> 01:16:27,827
Speaker 5: Did you see him.

1429
01:16:27,707 --> 01:16:33,467
Speaker 11: Wondering the risk this is your business and to mining going,

1430
01:16:33,507 --> 01:16:35,707
Speaker 11: I think you'll find it is my business. That's my

1431
01:16:35,867 --> 01:16:40,467
Speaker 11: half back. And then Will Skelton left in the thirteenth minute,

1432
01:16:40,467 --> 01:16:42,267
Speaker 11: and so I went back on the tape and tried

1433
01:16:42,307 --> 01:16:44,667
Speaker 11: to find if it was to Mikey who did something

1434
01:16:44,747 --> 01:16:48,347
Speaker 11: to him, but it wasn't. He didn't get down Gundo

1435
01:16:48,387 --> 01:16:50,387
Speaker 11: in a great tackle though that cut him in half.

1436
01:16:50,907 --> 01:16:54,187
Speaker 11: But no he It looked like Will Skelton was stretching

1437
01:16:54,267 --> 01:16:57,107
Speaker 11: for a pass from Harry Potter, and as a fellow

1438
01:16:57,147 --> 01:16:59,267
Speaker 11: big man, I can report that a pass that you

1439
01:16:59,307 --> 01:17:01,587
Speaker 11: have to stretch for is not a great idea. But

1440
01:17:02,107 --> 01:17:04,427
Speaker 11: when the game did speed up, I did notice that

1441
01:17:05,027 --> 01:17:08,307
Speaker 11: Skelton was struggling. So that seems like the future for

1442
01:17:08,347 --> 01:17:10,387
Speaker 11: the All Blacks. And then that's why, just before we

1443
01:17:10,507 --> 01:17:15,587
Speaker 11: leave that game, I thought Peter Larkey was really really good.

1444
01:17:16,547 --> 01:17:20,107
Speaker 11: Part Garnet and part tong. Then interesting, that's the first

1445
01:17:20,147 --> 01:17:22,987
Speaker 11: time we've ever had that Piney. I mean we you

1446
01:17:23,107 --> 01:17:25,987
Speaker 11: and I know I love our Garnet and footballers, but

1447
01:17:26,787 --> 01:17:29,307
Speaker 11: first Garnet and rugby player I've truly fallen in love with.

1448
01:17:30,067 --> 01:17:33,347
Speaker 11: And he made a big difference and I think he

1449
01:17:33,547 --> 01:17:36,907
Speaker 11: was He showed that in that Test against France last year.

1450
01:17:37,067 --> 01:17:38,907
Speaker 11: Just carrying on that form.

1451
01:17:40,067 --> 01:17:42,187
Speaker 3: So a month off now for the All Blacks. Then

1452
01:17:42,387 --> 01:17:46,227
Speaker 3: on consecutive Sundays, Ireland in Chicago, Scotland at Edinburgh, England

1453
01:17:46,267 --> 01:17:48,867
Speaker 3: at Twickenham and Wales at Cardiff. That is the remainder

1454
01:17:49,307 --> 01:17:51,707
Speaker 3: of the All Blacks. Twenty twenty five. Can we go

1455
01:17:51,787 --> 01:17:55,347
Speaker 3: to the NRL Grand Final? Who do you want to

1456
01:17:55,387 --> 01:17:58,027
Speaker 3: win this game tonight, the Melbourne Storm or the Brisbane Broncos,

1457
01:17:58,067 --> 01:18:00,067
Speaker 3: not who you think will win. Who do you want

1458
01:18:00,067 --> 01:18:00,307
Speaker 3: to win?

1459
01:18:01,827 --> 01:18:01,947
Speaker 7: Oh?

1460
01:18:02,027 --> 01:18:05,027
Speaker 11: The Broncos one hundred. I'd rather the Broncos were the

1461
01:18:05,147 --> 01:18:09,987
Speaker 11: Melbourne Storm the Empire. They are innovators. I mean they

1462
01:18:10,027 --> 01:18:12,347
Speaker 11: are the first club to get properly done for salary

1463
01:18:12,427 --> 01:18:15,427
Speaker 11: cat breach. They are also a lot of the tackles

1464
01:18:15,467 --> 01:18:18,987
Speaker 11: that have been outlawed in recent history initiated and started

1465
01:18:19,067 --> 01:18:22,467
Speaker 11: at the Storm in camp there. And I've even had

1466
01:18:23,107 --> 01:18:27,027
Speaker 11: former Storm players confirm that they're always looking to define

1467
01:18:27,107 --> 01:18:29,187
Speaker 11: ways to sort of rig the system, if you like,

1468
01:18:29,307 --> 01:18:31,547
Speaker 11: And then a new law will come out from the

1469
01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:34,267
Speaker 11: NRL and it's generally a Storm and you have to

1470
01:18:34,347 --> 01:18:38,867
Speaker 11: admire their innovation. And actually Wayne Smith is one of them,

1471
01:18:38,987 --> 01:18:40,627
Speaker 11: one of Craig Dullamy's mentors.

1472
01:18:40,707 --> 01:18:41,747
Speaker 5: Can you believe he's.

1473
01:18:41,627 --> 01:18:45,947
Speaker 11: On the books at the Melbourne Storm. So sir Wayne

1474
01:18:45,987 --> 01:18:48,267
Speaker 11: Smith Smith is helping them. So they've got the best

1475
01:18:48,307 --> 01:18:52,427
Speaker 11: brains in both codes if you like. But really the

1476
01:18:52,547 --> 01:18:55,587
Speaker 11: phil Broncos, the way they've sort of built again, I

1477
01:18:55,747 --> 01:18:59,347
Speaker 11: do really like Reese Walsh as a player. I know

1478
01:18:59,467 --> 01:19:02,227
Speaker 11: that does weird stuff off the field and drinks toilet water.

1479
01:19:02,787 --> 01:19:05,907
Speaker 11: But I mean, you can forgive someone for drinking toilet

1480
01:19:05,947 --> 01:19:08,347
Speaker 11: water water once or twice, can't you, Pony.

1481
01:19:08,787 --> 01:19:10,467
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say, which of us

1482
01:19:10,507 --> 01:19:11,187
Speaker 3: hasn't done that?

1483
01:19:15,627 --> 01:19:16,147
Speaker 8: Oh man?

1484
01:19:16,347 --> 01:19:19,107
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like he's clearly an odd individual. He's an

1485
01:19:19,147 --> 01:19:22,267
Speaker 3: extremely good looking man and a very good rugby league play.

1486
01:19:23,467 --> 01:19:25,747
Speaker 11: Well, that's the thing. And also what I noticed is

1487
01:19:25,787 --> 01:19:28,547
Speaker 11: you know how regularly can get robotic with those moves

1488
01:19:28,547 --> 01:19:30,747
Speaker 11: where they get into a good shape as they call it,

1489
01:19:31,067 --> 01:19:33,147
Speaker 11: and it's either a front door or a back door pass,

1490
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Speaker 11: you know, the short ball for the second rower, or

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01:19:36,827 --> 01:19:39,187
Speaker 11: the out ball, the wide ball, the back door pass

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01:19:39,227 --> 01:19:42,587
Speaker 11: to the to the fullback. Well, Reese Walsh, the changes

1493
01:19:42,627 --> 01:19:45,507
Speaker 11: all that he shows up in the position where a

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01:19:45,627 --> 01:19:48,587
Speaker 11: half normally would and then suddenly decides to go for

1495
01:19:48,707 --> 01:19:50,627
Speaker 11: it and throw a nick Will pass out wide. I

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01:19:50,747 --> 01:19:53,227
Speaker 11: actually like the fact that he is really off the cuff.

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01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:56,467
Speaker 11: And I don't know if you interviewed him when he

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01:19:56,587 --> 01:19:59,947
Speaker 11: was with the Warriors, Poney, but he's kind of got

1499
01:19:59,947 --> 01:20:02,947
Speaker 11: a very gentle personality. It doesn't seem like a contact

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01:20:03,027 --> 01:20:06,787
Speaker 11: called guy at all. But yeah, I just like watching.

1501
01:20:06,667 --> 01:20:09,227
Speaker 3: Him play, so do I and another guy I've enjoyed

1502
01:20:09,267 --> 01:20:11,387
Speaker 3: watching play for the Warriors for a long time as

1503
01:20:11,467 --> 01:20:14,187
Speaker 3: Bunty are for and he gets one more crack this afternoon,

1504
01:20:14,227 --> 01:20:16,667
Speaker 3: not in the first grade side, but in the reserve

1505
01:20:16,787 --> 01:20:19,027
Speaker 3: team and the state championship as they take on the

1506
01:20:19,427 --> 01:20:23,307
Speaker 3: brilliantly named Burley Bears this afternoon. I hope Bunty can

1507
01:20:23,347 --> 01:20:25,147
Speaker 3: come off the back fence a few more times and

1508
01:20:25,667 --> 01:20:26,307
Speaker 3: leave on a high.

1509
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Speaker 11: Yeah, one hundred percent. What an incredible servant and he's

1510
01:20:29,987 --> 01:20:33,867
Speaker 11: the glue guy in the squad as well. They'll miss Bunty,

1511
01:20:34,027 --> 01:20:36,187
Speaker 11: especially off the field. I think in recent years he's

1512
01:20:36,227 --> 01:20:39,227
Speaker 11: just been that guy who just keeps the everone spirits

1513
01:20:39,307 --> 01:20:42,507
Speaker 11: up and will turn up at anybody's house. For I

1514
01:20:42,587 --> 01:20:45,467
Speaker 11: think it was when Aaron Clark showed up at the Warriors,

1515
01:20:45,787 --> 01:20:48,507
Speaker 11: Bunty was the first guy around in his place. So yeah,

1516
01:20:48,667 --> 01:20:52,347
Speaker 11: lovely man, and hey, look shout out to Michael maguire

1517
01:20:52,387 --> 01:20:55,667
Speaker 11: as well, the Broncos coach. Who's you know, he's been

1518
01:20:55,747 --> 01:20:58,147
Speaker 11: sacked from plenty of places and I know he won

1519
01:20:58,187 --> 01:21:00,627
Speaker 11: a title with souts, but it just shows that that

1520
01:21:00,907 --> 01:21:04,587
Speaker 11: sacked coaches can win Piney with Haddon, with Hanson and

1521
01:21:04,747 --> 01:21:08,427
Speaker 11: Henry who got ditched by Wales. You know, Tylo Ancelotti

1522
01:21:08,507 --> 01:21:10,907
Speaker 11: got sacked by everyone and succeeded at Real Madrid, so

1523
01:21:11,387 --> 01:21:13,747
Speaker 11: why not manage as they call them. Michael McGuire for

1524
01:21:13,787 --> 01:21:14,347
Speaker 11: the Broncos.

1525
01:21:15,147 --> 01:21:18,147
Speaker 3: Great stuff, James, always good chatting mate. Thanks for taking

1526
01:21:18,187 --> 01:21:20,387
Speaker 3: the time as always, Enjoy the rest of your Sunday

1527
01:21:20,427 --> 01:21:23,307
Speaker 3: and we'll catch up again next weekend. James mccarony Crago's

1528
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Speaker 3: wild alternative commentary collective and right across his socials and

1529
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Speaker 3: of course on ZB Sunday afternoons seven to two, Back

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Speaker 3: in a moment.

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Speaker 2: Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fields weekends

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Speaker 2: for it with Jason m News Talk ZENB.

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Speaker 3: Race weekend passes, a track experience and two grand spending money.

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Speaker 3: only with News Talks HEADBT in RL Grand Final after

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Speaker 3: two the only.

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Speaker 1: Place four, the big names, the big issues, the big

1550
01:22:26,187 --> 01:22:31,467
Speaker 1: controversies and the big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport

1551
01:22:31,587 --> 01:22:35,547
Speaker 1: with Jason Vain on your home of Sport News Talks

1552
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Speaker 1: head B.

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01:22:37,867 --> 01:22:40,267
Speaker 3: SO seven. Welcome into the show, Welcome back to the show.

1554
01:22:40,307 --> 01:22:41,867
Speaker 3: It's good to have you with us on Weekend Sport.

1555
01:22:41,867 --> 01:22:44,707
Speaker 3: I'm Jason pine Bevan show Producer. We're here for another

1556
01:22:44,787 --> 01:22:47,907
Speaker 3: hour than Tim Beverage is in for the Weekend Collective

1557
01:22:47,947 --> 01:22:52,627
Speaker 3: Sunday edition. They're underway in Nelson, Tasman against Counties Manico.

1558
01:22:52,787 --> 01:22:57,027
Speaker 3: This is the penultimate game in the NPC round robin.

1559
01:22:57,667 --> 01:23:00,987
Speaker 3: Tasman are already secure in the top eight. They cannot

1560
01:23:01,027 --> 01:23:03,507
Speaker 3: move into the top four so Tasman know they're going

1561
01:23:03,587 --> 01:23:05,267
Speaker 3: to be somewhere five to eight, so they're going to

1562
01:23:05,307 --> 01:23:08,107
Speaker 3: play in a way quarter five. Counties, on the other hand,

1563
01:23:08,187 --> 01:23:10,787
Speaker 3: need to win this game if they are to jump

1564
01:23:10,827 --> 01:23:13,547
Speaker 3: into the top eight ahead of Northland who are currently

1565
01:23:13,627 --> 01:23:16,907
Speaker 3: eighth and watching i'm sure with great interest from Fangaday

1566
01:23:17,027 --> 01:23:20,507
Speaker 3: and the surrounding areas to see if Tasman can hold

1567
01:23:20,547 --> 01:23:24,227
Speaker 3: off Counties and therefore Northland will play quarterfinal rugby good stuff.

1568
01:23:24,307 --> 01:23:27,267
Speaker 3: But later on today Canterbury Tallanucki and christ Church Canterbury

1569
01:23:27,267 --> 01:23:29,147
Speaker 3: need to win with a bonus point to top the table.

1570
01:23:29,227 --> 01:23:32,267
Speaker 3: If they can't do that, Otago will be top qualifiers

1571
01:23:32,307 --> 01:23:35,427
Speaker 3: heading into the playoffs. Tallanuki meantime, can jump into the

1572
01:23:35,507 --> 01:23:38,507
Speaker 3: top four if they win, so plenty riding on these

1573
01:23:38,547 --> 01:23:42,347
Speaker 3: remaining two NPC matches to play out this afternoon. The

1574
01:23:42,427 --> 01:23:46,827
Speaker 3: quarterfinals are next weekend. This hour, very shortly across the

1575
01:23:46,907 --> 01:23:49,307
Speaker 3: Tasman we go to Sydney, Jake Duke out of Fox

1576
01:23:49,307 --> 01:23:53,547
Speaker 3: Sports League standing by to preview tonight's NRAL Grand Final

1577
01:23:53,827 --> 01:23:58,187
Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm Brisbane Broncos. Who are the most important players

1578
01:23:58,267 --> 01:24:00,987
Speaker 3: and who's he got in this game? Also this how

1579
01:24:00,987 --> 01:24:06,067
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about the very significant investment by

1580
01:24:06,667 --> 01:24:11,267
Speaker 3: our government towards a roof on Center Court at Stanley Street,

1581
01:24:11,267 --> 01:24:15,547
Speaker 3: the Auckland Tennis Center. Five million dollar investment announced on Friday.

1582
01:24:16,947 --> 01:24:19,427
Speaker 3: The overall cost is fifteen so still aver to work today,

1583
01:24:19,427 --> 01:24:22,067
Speaker 3: but how significant is this roland west of Tennis Auckland

1584
01:24:22,067 --> 01:24:24,947
Speaker 3: With us this out but we're rugby for you as well,

1585
01:24:25,067 --> 01:24:27,267
Speaker 3: and lines will remain open on any topic you like

1586
01:24:27,347 --> 01:24:30,587
Speaker 3: our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine

1587
01:24:30,707 --> 01:24:33,387
Speaker 3: two if you would prefer to correspond with us by

1588
01:24:33,547 --> 01:24:37,147
Speaker 3: text message. But as we approach nine past two, that

1589
01:24:37,307 --> 01:24:39,547
Speaker 3: music will tell you it is time to catch you

1590
01:24:39,707 --> 01:24:41,627
Speaker 3: up with some of the stuff you might have missed.

1591
01:24:41,667 --> 01:24:44,227
Speaker 3: And there has been plenty I have to say over

1592
01:24:44,267 --> 01:24:48,347
Speaker 3: the last twelve to eighteen hours or so. So let's

1593
01:24:48,347 --> 01:24:51,187
Speaker 3: start in the Rugby Championship. We know the All Blacks

1594
01:24:51,187 --> 01:24:53,187
Speaker 3: have beaten the Wallabies. A few hours later the spring

1595
01:24:53,267 --> 01:24:57,187
Speaker 3: Bots won the Rugby Championship and they did it with

1596
01:24:57,347 --> 01:25:02,067
Speaker 3: victory over a much improved Argentina at Twickenham. Then the

1597
01:25:02,147 --> 01:25:03,187
Speaker 3: pocket is cut out us.

1598
01:25:03,427 --> 01:25:06,267
Speaker 6: It's a cross kick perrodrigo istra.

1599
01:25:08,867 --> 01:25:10,427
Speaker 25: And rodrigo iskra.

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01:25:11,067 --> 01:25:12,787
Speaker 2: We'll have the final size.

1601
01:25:13,427 --> 01:25:16,787
Speaker 3: It won't be enough to change the results, but the

1602
01:25:16,947 --> 01:25:20,347
Speaker 3: harlercro gets the final try of the season, the twenty

1603
01:25:20,427 --> 01:25:23,547
Speaker 3: nine to twenty seven the final tour score to South Africa.

1604
01:25:23,627 --> 01:25:27,187
Speaker 3: They retained the Rugby Championship to the Farah Palmer Cup

1605
01:25:27,267 --> 01:25:28,507
Speaker 3: final in Hamilton.

1606
01:25:28,707 --> 01:25:30,947
Speaker 2: They just need to get it out, but they're gonna

1607
01:25:31,067 --> 01:25:33,027
Speaker 2: keep charging you. He hio.

1608
01:25:33,147 --> 01:25:35,907
Speaker 25: The best are those given to Canterbury.

1609
01:25:37,867 --> 01:25:38,827
Speaker 2: I don't want.

1610
01:25:39,867 --> 01:25:44,947
Speaker 25: Your dead Cama Previa tenions.

1611
01:25:44,747 --> 01:25:47,667
Speaker 3: White out o bed in Canterbury nineteen thirteen in a

1612
01:25:47,827 --> 01:25:50,987
Speaker 3: Sea Soaring final in Hamilton to the final round of

1613
01:25:51,027 --> 01:25:55,747
Speaker 3: the mpc Otago are top for now after ending Auckland's

1614
01:25:55,787 --> 01:25:59,147
Speaker 3: dismal season, rolling more five meters from the Auckland line.

1615
01:25:59,507 --> 01:26:00,747
Speaker 3: Is this drinumber six?

1616
01:26:00,987 --> 01:26:01,747
Speaker 8: Yes it is.

1617
01:26:02,907 --> 01:26:04,787
Speaker 2: Oh the Yahoos go up.

1618
01:26:04,947 --> 01:26:07,907
Speaker 3: Oh, it's way too easy for Otago. Bay of plenty

1619
01:26:07,987 --> 01:26:10,587
Speaker 3: up to third, coming from twenty one Niel down to

1620
01:26:10,667 --> 01:26:13,387
Speaker 3: beat Wellington right.

1621
01:26:12,867 --> 01:26:13,747
Speaker 19: Through a score.

1622
01:26:15,067 --> 01:26:17,027
Speaker 13: Jersey twenty two, coming onto the midfield.

1623
01:26:17,067 --> 01:26:19,707
Speaker 25: There's one there, two, three, four and over he goes

1624
01:26:20,147 --> 01:26:20,867
Speaker 25: the momentum.

1625
01:26:21,507 --> 01:26:24,347
Speaker 3: They just pull it back twenty thirty three twenty six

1626
01:26:24,347 --> 01:26:26,547
Speaker 3: to the final score of the Steamers Hawks Bay a

1627
01:26:26,707 --> 01:26:29,427
Speaker 3: fourth after a comfortable win over Mina. We two down

1628
01:26:29,507 --> 01:26:32,107
Speaker 3: Sullivan up at pace for Clutchy running onto the wall

1629
01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:36,507
Speaker 3: at pace, send without hand on them end with a

1630
01:26:36,627 --> 01:26:39,307
Speaker 3: try and Waycuto have secured their top eight spot with

1631
01:26:39,427 --> 01:26:41,307
Speaker 3: victory over Northlands. Off the top eight.

1632
01:26:41,667 --> 01:26:44,187
Speaker 4: Midfield goes to the left, Pruden around the back to

1633
01:26:44,507 --> 01:26:47,987
Speaker 4: Lawaukee straight up the middle goes Jacobson.

1634
01:26:47,707 --> 01:26:50,787
Speaker 26: Over the top Facility out of the try waking up.

1635
01:26:51,067 --> 01:26:51,867
Speaker 6: Why that's brilliant.

1636
01:26:52,067 --> 01:26:54,547
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Premier League. Liverpool will have dropped

1637
01:26:54,547 --> 01:26:57,347
Speaker 3: to seek and after a late defeat at Chelsea.

1638
01:26:58,147 --> 01:26:59,947
Speaker 2: It's cooker. It's as.

1639
01:27:01,907 --> 01:27:04,147
Speaker 25: Sid for Chelsea.

1640
01:27:04,907 --> 01:27:08,067
Speaker 3: Here's indeed two to one to Chelsea the final score there.

1641
01:27:08,347 --> 01:27:11,147
Speaker 3: Arsenal have gone top after a two nil win over

1642
01:27:11,227 --> 01:27:14,307
Speaker 3: west Ham, helped by a goal from former west Ham

1643
01:27:14,387 --> 01:27:16,147
Speaker 3: midfielder Declan Rice. Super mendy.

1644
01:27:16,347 --> 01:27:18,787
Speaker 25: We'll find asa with that one Lowiela gets a hunter

1645
01:27:19,507 --> 01:27:23,347
Speaker 25: income race here was never going to be far from

1646
01:27:23,387 --> 01:27:27,147
Speaker 25: the censor of this story, Declan Rice for former.

1647
01:27:26,867 --> 01:27:29,787
Speaker 3: Hammer and the Gunner's North London neighbors Tottenham up to

1648
01:27:29,867 --> 01:27:34,867
Speaker 3: third kitas no foul Mohammi Cudas is super dark. It's

1649
01:27:34,947 --> 01:27:36,907
Speaker 3: in spars in front.

1650
01:27:36,747 --> 01:27:43,587
Speaker 25: Again Mahammi Cudas with his first goal for Tottenham Hotsma.

1651
01:27:43,347 --> 01:27:46,467
Speaker 3: A two to one when away at Leeds for Tottenham.

1652
01:27:46,467 --> 01:27:50,147
Speaker 3: Closer to home, the Newcastle Jets have won Football's Australia

1653
01:27:50,267 --> 01:27:53,627
Speaker 3: Cup for the first time, beating state league side Heidelberg

1654
01:27:53,787 --> 01:27:56,627
Speaker 3: United in the final last night. Who is Oh good

1655
01:27:56,667 --> 01:27:59,227
Speaker 3: Bye forgiveson and the.

1656
01:27:59,347 --> 01:28:02,827
Speaker 5: Jets of five to a Stralia Cup.

1657
01:28:02,747 --> 01:28:06,067
Speaker 3: History three won the score in extra time. Back home,

1658
01:28:06,107 --> 01:28:08,827
Speaker 3: Australia have beaten the black Caps by three wickets in

1659
01:28:08,867 --> 01:28:11,827
Speaker 3: the third and final Chapel Handley T twenty International at

1660
01:28:11,907 --> 01:28:12,947
Speaker 3: Bay Oval and that.

1661
01:28:13,147 --> 01:28:16,067
Speaker 27: Is going to do it, Abbitt with the winning boundary

1662
01:28:16,147 --> 01:28:20,107
Speaker 27: Australia sweet the Kiwis turnell in the series. The Chapel

1663
01:28:20,187 --> 01:28:23,947
Speaker 27: Hadley remains on the other side of the Tasman a

1664
01:28:24,067 --> 01:28:24,907
Speaker 27: three wicket.

1665
01:28:24,787 --> 01:28:27,947
Speaker 3: Victory hair tonight. But really this is the game that

1666
01:28:28,107 --> 01:28:31,587
Speaker 3: Mitchell marsh one certainly was Mitchell marsh scoring an unbeaten

1667
01:28:31,667 --> 01:28:34,467
Speaker 3: one hundred and three or fifty two balls as Australia

1668
01:28:34,547 --> 01:28:36,787
Speaker 3: chased down New Zealand's one fifty six for nine with

1669
01:28:36,947 --> 01:28:39,667
Speaker 3: a couple of overs to spare. And Paul Cole has

1670
01:28:39,747 --> 01:28:42,507
Speaker 3: become the first New Zealand squash player to win the

1671
01:28:42,587 --> 01:28:47,267
Speaker 3: prestigious Cutter Classic, ending a six match losing run against

1672
01:28:47,267 --> 01:28:50,027
Speaker 3: world number one Mustafa Arsal in Doha.

1673
01:28:51,267 --> 01:28:54,627
Speaker 2: Post Times.

1674
01:28:57,107 --> 01:29:00,187
Speaker 3: So many occasions he lost in the twenty nineteen.

1675
01:29:01,307 --> 01:29:02,947
Speaker 2: Two more previous finals, but.

1676
01:29:02,987 --> 01:29:05,387
Speaker 3: He's won in twenty five.

1677
01:29:06,507 --> 01:29:10,147
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekends

1678
01:29:10,227 --> 01:29:12,747
Speaker 1: Forward with Jason Vane News Talks, AB.

1679
01:29:13,027 --> 01:29:16,547
Speaker 3: News Talks ABN Weekend Sport, thirteen minutes past two NRL

1680
01:29:16,707 --> 01:29:20,947
Speaker 3: Grand Final tonight in Sydney, Melbourne Storm v Brisbane Broncos

1681
01:29:21,027 --> 01:29:22,747
Speaker 3: set to go at nine thirty, although I think that

1682
01:29:22,907 --> 01:29:25,867
Speaker 3: might be arbitrary, And just before we move on last

1683
01:29:25,947 --> 01:29:27,387
Speaker 3: night I had a couple of text saying I thought

1684
01:29:27,427 --> 01:29:29,147
Speaker 3: the game was kicking off at ten forty five.

1685
01:29:29,387 --> 01:29:29,707
Speaker 24: It was.

1686
01:29:29,827 --> 01:29:31,787
Speaker 3: We were told right across the week that game last

1687
01:29:31,827 --> 01:29:33,867
Speaker 3: night was going to kick off at teen forty five

1688
01:29:33,947 --> 01:29:37,267
Speaker 3: New Zealand Time eleven o five. It kicked off twenty

1689
01:29:37,427 --> 01:29:39,987
Speaker 3: minutes after we were told that it would. And this

1690
01:29:40,147 --> 01:29:42,347
Speaker 3: tends to happen on NRL Grand Final day as well,

1691
01:29:42,387 --> 01:29:46,147
Speaker 3: doesn't it. So anytime from nine to thirty you'll find

1692
01:29:46,147 --> 01:29:49,067
Speaker 3: the Melbourne Storm taking on the Brisbane Broncos tonight, the

1693
01:29:49,187 --> 01:29:52,627
Speaker 3: Storm looking for redemption after last year's Grand Final heartbreak,

1694
01:29:52,907 --> 01:29:57,227
Speaker 3: the Broncos looking to win their first premiership in nineteen years.

1695
01:29:57,667 --> 01:30:00,507
Speaker 3: There is, also, of course, from Warriors involvement on Grand

1696
01:30:00,587 --> 01:30:03,507
Speaker 3: Final Day. Today, the reserve grade side will play the

1697
01:30:03,587 --> 01:30:07,187
Speaker 3: Burly Bears for the state championship. The Warriors won the

1698
01:30:07,267 --> 01:30:10,227
Speaker 3: New South Wales Cup for the very first time last weekend.

1699
01:30:10,707 --> 01:30:14,307
Speaker 3: That game is underway in just over an hour twenty

1700
01:30:14,427 --> 01:30:18,067
Speaker 3: past three at the same venue, a Core Stadium in Sydney.

1701
01:30:18,467 --> 01:30:21,547
Speaker 3: Let's bring in Jake Duke from Fox Sports League. Jake.

1702
01:30:21,587 --> 01:30:23,227
Speaker 3: Always great to have you on the show. Thanks for

1703
01:30:23,307 --> 01:30:26,067
Speaker 3: joining us. Made it seems a little bit weird talking

1704
01:30:26,107 --> 01:30:28,787
Speaker 3: about a Grand Final without Penrith and it they've won

1705
01:30:28,827 --> 01:30:31,547
Speaker 3: the last four, they've been in the last five. Was

1706
01:30:31,627 --> 01:30:34,627
Speaker 3: there lost to the Broncos last weekend any surprise to you.

1707
01:30:36,227 --> 01:30:39,587
Speaker 26: Look, I saw a funny stat today. It was like

1708
01:30:39,667 --> 01:30:42,027
Speaker 26: the last time Penrith won in a Grand Final the

1709
01:30:43,387 --> 01:30:46,547
Speaker 26: COVID nineteen pandemics hadn't happened yet, which kind of puts

1710
01:30:46,587 --> 01:30:49,427
Speaker 26: in context how long it's been since we've had a

1711
01:30:49,507 --> 01:30:52,507
Speaker 26: Grand Final without them. Look, I think maybe you could

1712
01:30:52,587 --> 01:30:54,387
Speaker 26: argue they just ran out of juice, you know, the

1713
01:30:55,067 --> 01:30:58,107
Speaker 26: fourteen meal fourteen points up, I think the fourteen mil

1714
01:30:58,147 --> 01:31:00,827
Speaker 26: at halftime, and then they lost. And I think there

1715
01:31:00,907 --> 01:31:03,667
Speaker 26: was another ridiculous stat that like if whenever they had

1716
01:31:03,707 --> 01:31:06,147
Speaker 26: a twelve point lead, they were ninety eight to zero

1717
01:31:06,467 --> 01:31:09,547
Speaker 26: over this last five years, like in that run. So

1718
01:31:09,667 --> 01:31:11,667
Speaker 26: that just shows you that they haven't been run down

1719
01:31:12,427 --> 01:31:15,107
Speaker 26: by that kind of margin for a very long time.

1720
01:31:15,507 --> 01:31:17,587
Speaker 26: Whether they run out of jrue, whether they just ran

1721
01:31:17,667 --> 01:31:20,507
Speaker 26: into a good Bronco side that are kind of riding

1722
01:31:20,587 --> 01:31:23,827
Speaker 26: high on belief and can kind of score points from

1723
01:31:24,227 --> 01:31:26,267
Speaker 26: anywhere and never believe they're done. We saw them do

1724
01:31:26,307 --> 01:31:28,427
Speaker 26: it against Camber. They came from sixteen meal down. So

1725
01:31:29,107 --> 01:31:31,787
Speaker 26: I don't think anyone could default Penrith and say, oh

1726
01:31:31,827 --> 01:31:34,267
Speaker 26: they you know, they're not there anymore.

1727
01:31:34,387 --> 01:31:34,907
Speaker 5: They've lost it.

1728
01:31:34,987 --> 01:31:38,147
Speaker 26: They just lost one game and I'm sure they'll be

1729
01:31:38,187 --> 01:31:41,187
Speaker 26: back bigger and better than next year. Whether the effect

1730
01:31:41,227 --> 01:31:43,347
Speaker 26: of having to win all those games towards the back

1731
01:31:43,427 --> 01:31:44,947
Speaker 26: end of the year just to make it and stuff

1732
01:31:46,107 --> 01:31:48,227
Speaker 26: took a toll, we'll never know. But I wouldn't be

1733
01:31:48,227 --> 01:31:49,907
Speaker 26: writing them off from saying the Dinners is over by

1734
01:31:49,947 --> 01:31:50,467
Speaker 26: any stretch.

1735
01:31:50,587 --> 01:31:52,347
Speaker 3: All right, let's forget the two teams who are the

1736
01:31:52,547 --> 01:31:55,707
Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm Brisbane Broncos. When you analyze these two teams,

1737
01:31:56,467 --> 01:31:59,267
Speaker 3: what do your eyes naturally land in terms of the

1738
01:31:59,427 --> 01:32:00,867
Speaker 3: most important players tonight?

1739
01:32:02,107 --> 01:32:05,347
Speaker 26: Look, I think this is the best Grand Final we

1740
01:32:05,347 --> 01:32:08,987
Speaker 26: could have asked for in terms of sheer entertainment value,

1741
01:32:09,347 --> 01:32:12,947
Speaker 26: who knows what might happen, sheer point scoring ability. I

1742
01:32:12,947 --> 01:32:16,027
Speaker 26: think these are probably the two best attacking teams in

1743
01:32:16,107 --> 01:32:19,667
Speaker 26: the competition. On their day, they've got great amount of

1744
01:32:19,667 --> 01:32:23,027
Speaker 26: points in them. They are stars across the board. So

1745
01:32:23,427 --> 01:32:25,467
Speaker 26: it kind of looks to where where you can find

1746
01:32:25,507 --> 01:32:28,187
Speaker 26: a weakness and deficiencies in both sides, And I think

1747
01:32:28,267 --> 01:32:32,107
Speaker 26: both sides have some questionable edge defense at certain times.

1748
01:32:32,227 --> 01:32:33,227
Speaker 5: We saw Jack.

1749
01:32:33,107 --> 01:32:36,107
Speaker 26: Hawleth on that left edge for the Storm get caught

1750
01:32:36,147 --> 01:32:39,467
Speaker 26: out a couple of times last week for by Penrith,

1751
01:32:39,547 --> 01:32:43,987
Speaker 26: and then you know some of the Panther's right edge

1752
01:32:44,067 --> 01:32:45,507
Speaker 26: with young Casey MacLean, and.

1753
01:32:47,347 --> 01:32:49,107
Speaker 5: It might be Paul Adam Molly out on that side.

1754
01:32:50,067 --> 01:32:52,867
Speaker 5: They've had some issues as well. So I think that's

1755
01:32:52,907 --> 01:32:54,667
Speaker 5: where you might see this one.

1756
01:32:54,707 --> 01:32:57,707
Speaker 26: I lost because in terms of you know, forward packs

1757
01:32:57,747 --> 01:33:01,107
Speaker 26: and superstars, they've just got strike all over the place.

1758
01:33:01,147 --> 01:33:04,987
Speaker 26: And it'll be who can pick apart the other's deficiencies.

1759
01:33:05,707 --> 01:33:07,867
Speaker 5: Better than the other. And look they are.

1760
01:33:08,067 --> 01:33:11,507
Speaker 26: These two teams aren't as probably full proof defensively as

1761
01:33:11,667 --> 01:33:14,707
Speaker 26: we've seen other teams be in recent years. Like Penrith,

1762
01:33:14,747 --> 01:33:16,547
Speaker 26: when you think about their run over the last five years,

1763
01:33:16,547 --> 01:33:18,947
Speaker 26: they've been almost impossible to score against.

1764
01:33:20,427 --> 01:33:23,787
Speaker 5: So you think about Penris, you know, kind of issued

1765
01:33:23,907 --> 01:33:24,107
Speaker 5: that the.

1766
01:33:24,267 --> 01:33:26,147
Speaker 26: Defense that they've showne over the previous years, and then

1767
01:33:26,187 --> 01:33:28,707
Speaker 26: you look at the Melbourne Storm and the Broncos sides

1768
01:33:28,707 --> 01:33:31,867
Speaker 26: we've got this year that there's points that can be

1769
01:33:31,947 --> 01:33:33,467
Speaker 26: scored all right.

1770
01:33:33,507 --> 01:33:37,907
Speaker 3: Well, then to manufacture those scoring opportunities, I guess you'll

1771
01:33:37,947 --> 01:33:40,987
Speaker 3: land in the halves Cameron Munster, Jerome Hughes so somehow

1772
01:33:41,027 --> 01:33:45,067
Speaker 3: has miraculously recovered from a broken wrist about eight weeks

1773
01:33:45,067 --> 01:33:47,867
Speaker 3: ahead of schedule, Ben Hunt and the returning Adam Reynolds

1774
01:33:47,907 --> 01:33:50,027
Speaker 3: for the Broncos. How big you say, might those four

1775
01:33:50,067 --> 01:33:52,427
Speaker 3: guys have? Yeah?

1776
01:33:52,707 --> 01:33:55,147
Speaker 5: Look there they're the superstars, They're the key, right.

1777
01:33:55,867 --> 01:33:58,747
Speaker 26: You know, Michael McGuire's had the chance to kind of

1778
01:33:59,307 --> 01:34:01,347
Speaker 26: decide whether he wants to go with Adam Rendolds and

1779
01:34:01,347 --> 01:34:05,227
Speaker 26: Ben Hunt or Adam Reynolds and Ezra Man, and it

1780
01:34:05,387 --> 01:34:08,827
Speaker 26: appears that tonight will go with the older halves pairing.

1781
01:34:08,827 --> 01:34:13,307
Speaker 26: They're actually the oldest halves pairing NURL history, Adam Renolds

1782
01:34:13,347 --> 01:34:13,747
Speaker 26: and Ben.

1783
01:34:13,667 --> 01:34:16,747
Speaker 5: Hunt, so look that they've been there before.

1784
01:34:16,787 --> 01:34:19,587
Speaker 26: Adam Reynolds is obviously trying to win his second Grand Final,

1785
01:34:19,947 --> 01:34:23,067
Speaker 26: this will be his fourth, so we saw him kind

1786
01:34:23,067 --> 01:34:25,427
Speaker 26: of step up in those clutch moments last week against

1787
01:34:25,507 --> 01:34:26,267
Speaker 26: against Penrith.

1788
01:34:26,707 --> 01:34:28,307
Speaker 5: Can he do it again? Ben Hunt the.

1789
01:34:28,387 --> 01:34:32,307
Speaker 26: Ultimate redemption story after what happened a decade ago, so

1790
01:34:33,027 --> 01:34:35,827
Speaker 26: so many interesting parts to that. And then you've got Hughes,

1791
01:34:36,227 --> 01:34:42,947
Speaker 26: Grant Munster, Pappenhausen like the superstar spine. Jerome Hughes. I

1792
01:34:42,987 --> 01:34:45,027
Speaker 26: don't think he's getting enough credit for what he did

1793
01:34:45,427 --> 01:34:47,467
Speaker 26: last week and the fact that he played that game

1794
01:34:47,547 --> 01:34:50,267
Speaker 26: with a busted arm on the same shoulder that's also busted.

1795
01:34:50,747 --> 01:34:52,827
Speaker 26: He's going to need surgery on that shoulder in the

1796
01:34:52,867 --> 01:34:55,107
Speaker 26: off season, which will real him out of the Keyweeks campaign.

1797
01:34:55,147 --> 01:34:58,707
Speaker 26: Like he's playing hurt. It's kind of folklore stuff if

1798
01:34:58,787 --> 01:35:00,467
Speaker 26: Jerome Hughes can kind of go out there and lead

1799
01:35:00,507 --> 01:35:04,787
Speaker 26: Melbourne to a Grand Final win tonight because he's yeah,

1800
01:35:04,987 --> 01:35:09,427
Speaker 26: he's playing absolutely buster and you know and piloting this team.

1801
01:35:09,467 --> 01:35:12,107
Speaker 26: He was so good in that prelim final, so looking

1802
01:35:12,147 --> 01:35:14,587
Speaker 26: forward to seeing how he performs. And I think he's

1803
01:35:14,627 --> 01:35:17,427
Speaker 26: the key for Melbourne. I know, Harry Grant's obviously a

1804
01:35:17,547 --> 01:35:20,467
Speaker 26: freak and they've got superstars, but if Jerome who runs

1805
01:35:20,507 --> 01:35:22,987
Speaker 26: and straightens their attack and it kind of exploits some

1806
01:35:23,067 --> 01:35:25,907
Speaker 26: of that Brisbane defense I was talking about, then I

1807
01:35:25,987 --> 01:35:26,707
Speaker 26: think he's the key.

1808
01:35:27,467 --> 01:35:30,907
Speaker 3: How much does Grand final experience count in a Grand Final?

1809
01:35:32,747 --> 01:35:33,387
Speaker 5: I think a lot.

1810
01:35:33,787 --> 01:35:35,667
Speaker 26: And they say you've got to lose one to win one, right,

1811
01:35:35,867 --> 01:35:38,627
Speaker 26: So both these teams have lost Grand Finals in the

1812
01:35:38,707 --> 01:35:41,947
Speaker 26: last two years, so they've they've all been there, they

1813
01:35:42,107 --> 01:35:44,427
Speaker 26: know what's going wrong, They've they've all had a chance

1814
01:35:44,507 --> 01:35:48,027
Speaker 26: to kind of assess and suss what worked what didn't.

1815
01:35:48,547 --> 01:35:50,867
Speaker 26: So there's there's no real excuses in terms of, you know,

1816
01:35:50,947 --> 01:35:52,707
Speaker 26: one being more experienced.

1817
01:35:52,267 --> 01:35:52,747
Speaker 5: And then the other.

1818
01:35:53,747 --> 01:35:56,787
Speaker 26: Obviously some of the Melbourne guys have tasted victory before,

1819
01:35:58,387 --> 01:36:00,067
Speaker 26: but that was a different team. You know, that was

1820
01:36:00,147 --> 01:36:03,107
Speaker 26: five years ago. Cameron Smith was still there, so this

1821
01:36:03,227 --> 01:36:04,667
Speaker 26: is a very kind of different.

1822
01:36:04,987 --> 01:36:07,147
Speaker 5: Melbourne storm side.

1823
01:36:08,027 --> 01:36:10,267
Speaker 26: Some of their real older statesmen, like the Brumbidge boys

1824
01:36:10,267 --> 01:36:12,267
Speaker 26: and all that are gone. So this is a new

1825
01:36:12,347 --> 01:36:13,947
Speaker 26: test in a new era for this Storm side to

1826
01:36:13,947 --> 01:36:16,147
Speaker 26: win a premiership in this era. And then you got

1827
01:36:16,147 --> 01:36:18,547
Speaker 26: the Broncoast that they had it won, right, they had

1828
01:36:18,587 --> 01:36:22,827
Speaker 26: a Grand Final one they just for whatever reason, you know,

1829
01:36:22,947 --> 01:36:25,027
Speaker 26: Some say they stopped playing trying to protect the lead.

1830
01:36:25,107 --> 01:36:28,187
Speaker 26: Other say Nathan Cleary just pulled them apart. But I

1831
01:36:28,307 --> 01:36:30,067
Speaker 26: think you know they would obviously learn a lot of

1832
01:36:30,107 --> 01:36:34,747
Speaker 26: lessons from that kind of Grand final. So yeah, God,

1833
01:36:34,867 --> 01:36:36,387
Speaker 26: it's such a tough.

1834
01:36:36,267 --> 01:36:38,387
Speaker 5: One to pick. I honestly don't know who's going to

1835
01:36:38,427 --> 01:36:39,667
Speaker 5: win this game. I think you could.

1836
01:36:40,147 --> 01:36:42,027
Speaker 26: You could have a tight tussle, you could have a

1837
01:36:42,107 --> 01:36:44,827
Speaker 26: blowout either way, you could have a shootout with it

1838
01:36:45,067 --> 01:36:47,067
Speaker 26: ends thirty two thirty who knows?

1839
01:36:47,347 --> 01:36:47,827
Speaker 5: Who knows?

1840
01:36:48,667 --> 01:36:51,107
Speaker 3: Can ask about the two coaches. This is Storm coach

1841
01:36:51,147 --> 01:36:53,467
Speaker 3: Craig Bellamy's eleventh Grand Final. I think they'd take some

1842
01:36:53,507 --> 01:36:57,827
Speaker 3: past Wayne Bennett as the coach who's overseen the most.

1843
01:36:57,907 --> 01:37:00,667
Speaker 3: And then Michael maguire of course with the Brisbane Broncos.

1844
01:37:00,987 --> 01:37:02,787
Speaker 3: How much influence of those two guys had on their

1845
01:37:02,827 --> 01:37:03,547
Speaker 3: respective teams.

1846
01:37:04,507 --> 01:37:07,147
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny how they know a lot of the.

1847
01:37:07,147 --> 01:37:09,467
Speaker 26: Coaches in the NRL obviously either come through the Craig

1848
01:37:09,547 --> 01:37:12,747
Speaker 26: Bellamy or Wayne Bennett system all these days.

1849
01:37:12,787 --> 01:37:15,467
Speaker 5: Trent Robinson as well, but like Madge obviously worked with.

1850
01:37:17,307 --> 01:37:21,427
Speaker 26: Craig Bellamy and they're very similar kind of guys, similar

1851
01:37:21,707 --> 01:37:28,827
Speaker 26: kind of coaches, intensity, you know, ruthless trainers, kind of

1852
01:37:28,987 --> 01:37:30,747
Speaker 26: just super intense guys.

1853
01:37:30,947 --> 01:37:35,427
Speaker 5: So it's funny how both their styles kind of match

1854
01:37:35,547 --> 01:37:38,387
Speaker 5: up the Sea in that match.

1855
01:37:38,467 --> 01:37:41,867
Speaker 26: And also, like you know, they've obviously got this intensity

1856
01:37:41,907 --> 01:37:43,827
Speaker 26: and they've you can see that in the Broncos kind

1857
01:37:43,867 --> 01:37:47,547
Speaker 26: of fight and resilience they've shown in the finals that's

1858
01:37:47,547 --> 01:37:48,787
Speaker 26: probably hasn't been there before.

1859
01:37:49,387 --> 01:37:50,867
Speaker 5: Melbourne's always had that kind of.

1860
01:37:52,347 --> 01:37:55,347
Speaker 26: You know, tough underbelly that Craig Bellamy sides have. So

1861
01:37:56,107 --> 01:37:58,147
Speaker 26: but then you're adding to the fact that you know,

1862
01:37:58,227 --> 01:38:01,707
Speaker 26: they're actually really good points scoring teams as well, and

1863
01:38:01,787 --> 01:38:04,387
Speaker 26: they just they're very good at exploiting the opposition. So

1864
01:38:04,507 --> 01:38:06,067
Speaker 26: that's what I mean when you say it's hard to

1865
01:38:06,107 --> 01:38:08,907
Speaker 26: par whether it's going to be a defensive battle. Plenty

1866
01:38:08,947 --> 01:38:10,387
Speaker 26: of points are going to be scored, and they're just

1867
01:38:10,427 --> 01:38:13,147
Speaker 26: too good of attacking sides that you know that they're

1868
01:38:13,147 --> 01:38:15,027
Speaker 26: going to score thirty points each and it's going to

1869
01:38:15,067 --> 01:38:17,067
Speaker 26: come down to the who runs out of time first,

1870
01:38:17,187 --> 01:38:20,787
Speaker 26: you know. So it is really one of the most

1871
01:38:20,787 --> 01:38:23,507
Speaker 26: intriguing Grand Finals and it'll rate really well too because

1872
01:38:24,227 --> 01:38:27,307
Speaker 26: you get the massive Queensland audience, you get the Victorian audience,

1873
01:38:28,627 --> 01:38:31,547
Speaker 26: and then you obviously have places like New Zealand and

1874
01:38:31,627 --> 01:38:33,947
Speaker 26: New South Wales that, when they haven't rusted on rugby

1875
01:38:34,027 --> 01:38:36,307
Speaker 26: league kind of supportership, we'll just watch anyway.

1876
01:38:36,467 --> 01:38:39,827
Speaker 5: So it's shapes.

1877
01:38:39,547 --> 01:38:41,827
Speaker 26: To be one of the all time great Grand Finals.

1878
01:38:41,947 --> 01:38:45,747
Speaker 26: The weather here in Sydney is amazing. It's going to

1879
01:38:45,787 --> 01:38:47,867
Speaker 26: be hot, actually hot hot this evening when they run

1880
01:38:47,907 --> 01:38:51,507
Speaker 26: out of the field, So yeah, it shapes as a

1881
01:38:51,507 --> 01:38:53,667
Speaker 26: great Grand Final, and you know, keeps things dry and

1882
01:38:54,387 --> 01:38:56,907
Speaker 26: allows these two teams to kind of play football because

1883
01:38:56,947 --> 01:38:59,987
Speaker 26: of daylight saving so it technically is a six just

1884
01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:05,147
Speaker 26: after six pm kickoff, So yeah, it all shapes as

1885
01:39:05,187 --> 01:39:06,027
Speaker 26: one of the great.

1886
01:39:06,827 --> 01:39:09,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, unmissible, you've painted a great picture. Could be twelve ten,

1887
01:39:09,707 --> 01:39:12,027
Speaker 3: could be thirty four to thirty two, could be anything tonight, Jack,

1888
01:39:12,067 --> 01:39:13,947
Speaker 3: So I won't ask you to pick a winner. What

1889
01:39:14,027 --> 01:39:15,627
Speaker 3: I will do is think you for your time, mate,

1890
01:39:15,747 --> 01:39:19,307
Speaker 3: enjoy tonight and there's always appreciate your time across New Zealand.

1891
01:39:19,867 --> 01:39:21,627
Speaker 5: I no problem if I give you a winner, I

1892
01:39:21,707 --> 01:39:23,667
Speaker 5: think Melbourne might get it done. But who knows?

1893
01:39:24,307 --> 01:39:27,307
Speaker 3: Who knows? Indeed, who knows? Thanks Jake Jack Duke out

1894
01:39:27,307 --> 01:39:28,987
Speaker 3: of Fox Sports League and help you part of their

1895
01:39:29,067 --> 01:39:33,707
Speaker 3: coverage tonight. I don't know. I mean, I don't actually

1896
01:39:33,867 --> 01:39:36,027
Speaker 3: care who wins this game. It's just one of those

1897
01:39:36,067 --> 01:39:39,027
Speaker 3: wonderful scenarios where I've got absolutely no skin of the game.

1898
01:39:39,147 --> 01:39:42,547
Speaker 3: I've got no no affiliation to either of these sides,

1899
01:39:43,747 --> 01:39:47,307
Speaker 3: but I'm just looking forward to seeing the game. In

1900
01:39:47,427 --> 01:39:49,747
Speaker 3: many ways, it's kind of nice not to have Penrith there.

1901
01:39:50,747 --> 01:39:55,747
Speaker 3: They've they've almost given us finals fatigue these last these

1902
01:39:55,907 --> 01:39:58,467
Speaker 3: last four or four or five years. Are there any

1903
01:39:58,587 --> 01:40:02,547
Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm fans in New Zealand? Of often, I know

1904
01:40:02,667 --> 01:40:05,467
Speaker 3: there are a lot of Broncos fans, and that goes back,

1905
01:40:05,827 --> 01:40:09,267
Speaker 3: you know, to when we first started watching the NRL

1906
01:40:09,427 --> 01:40:11,827
Speaker 3: or the Windfield Cup as it was called back then,

1907
01:40:12,187 --> 01:40:15,667
Speaker 3: before that sort of sponsorship was not allowed anymore. But

1908
01:40:15,787 --> 01:40:20,067
Speaker 3: you think you likes like Alfie Langer and Steve Renoff.

1909
01:40:20,067 --> 01:40:23,227
Speaker 3: Remember Steve Renoff, what a player. But are there any

1910
01:40:23,267 --> 01:40:27,107
Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm fans in New Zealand. Are you one, because

1911
01:40:28,227 --> 01:40:32,987
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like a team that is a natural

1912
01:40:33,067 --> 01:40:35,907
Speaker 3: fit to us over here. I could be completely wrong.

1913
01:40:36,467 --> 01:40:38,107
Speaker 3: If you're a Melbourne Storm fan, let us know. Just

1914
01:40:38,147 --> 01:40:40,027
Speaker 3: give us a text nine two nine two. Tell us

1915
01:40:40,067 --> 01:40:42,707
Speaker 3: how you came to be a fan of the Melbourne Storm.

1916
01:40:42,787 --> 01:40:43,787
Speaker 3: Like I said, I know there were a lot of

1917
01:40:43,787 --> 01:40:47,947
Speaker 3: Broncos fans. A colleague of ours, Ruben Mama, Ruben Mama

1918
01:40:48,187 --> 01:40:51,347
Speaker 3: is a is a Broncos fan and proud. He'll be

1919
01:40:51,427 --> 01:40:56,547
Speaker 3: wearing his his replica jersey with pride this afternoon and

1920
01:40:56,627 --> 01:41:01,347
Speaker 3: probably with a degree of nervousness. Nineteen years without winning one.

1921
01:41:01,427 --> 01:41:04,027
Speaker 3: That's a long time between drinks, isn't it. So I'm

1922
01:41:04,027 --> 01:41:06,467
Speaker 3: all the best fans of the Broncos and fans the

1923
01:41:06,507 --> 01:41:08,707
Speaker 3: Storm too, But if in fact there are any here

1924
01:41:09,307 --> 01:41:14,787
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. Rugby County's Manico lead Tasman ten to seven,

1925
01:41:15,187 --> 01:41:19,467
Speaker 3: twenty minutes gone at Trafalgar Park in Nelson. So just

1926
01:41:19,547 --> 01:41:22,067
Speaker 3: reminding you that Counties need to win this game if

1927
01:41:22,067 --> 01:41:25,267
Speaker 3: they are to elongate their season. If they lose, they

1928
01:41:25,307 --> 01:41:28,627
Speaker 3: will be eliminated outside the top eight. Northland will go through.

1929
01:41:28,627 --> 01:41:30,787
Speaker 3: If Counties beat Tasman they will go into the top eight.

1930
01:41:30,987 --> 01:41:33,347
Speaker 3: Tasman will be there regardless. But later on this afternoon

1931
01:41:33,427 --> 01:41:35,987
Speaker 3: Canterbury and Taranaki both secure in the top eight, but

1932
01:41:36,067 --> 01:41:38,147
Speaker 3: Canterbury need to win with a bonus point if they

1933
01:41:38,187 --> 01:41:42,467
Speaker 3: are to usurp Otago at the top of the table.

1934
01:41:42,547 --> 01:41:45,947
Speaker 3: The manual were Marlin's a feeder club for the storm,

1935
01:41:45,987 --> 01:41:48,827
Speaker 3: I'm told on text, all right, so there may be

1936
01:41:48,987 --> 01:41:53,187
Speaker 3: that that affiliation there two twenty six of this. We're

1937
01:41:53,187 --> 01:41:54,947
Speaker 3: going to take a break when we come back. A

1938
01:41:55,147 --> 01:41:59,147
Speaker 3: roof is looking more likely at Stanley Street at the

1939
01:41:59,187 --> 01:42:02,347
Speaker 3: Auckland Tennis Center. They've been talking about this for a

1940
01:42:02,427 --> 01:42:05,307
Speaker 3: while on Friday, a significant step, you'd have to think

1941
01:42:05,347 --> 01:42:08,787
Speaker 3: in the right to with five million dollars of government

1942
01:42:09,187 --> 01:42:13,587
Speaker 3: that is central government investment confirmed. So we're too from

1943
01:42:13,627 --> 01:42:16,987
Speaker 3: here and when might we see tennis played under a

1944
01:42:17,107 --> 01:42:22,547
Speaker 3: roof at Stanley Street. Rowan West is CEO of Auckland, Sorry,

1945
01:42:22,587 --> 01:42:25,507
Speaker 3: Tennis Auckland, CEO of Tennis Auckland. He's going to join

1946
01:42:25,627 --> 01:42:26,547
Speaker 3: us on the show after this.

1947
01:42:27,467 --> 01:42:31,347
Speaker 2: It's more than just a game. Weekend sport with Jason

1948
01:42:31,387 --> 01:42:32,467
Speaker 2: Pine and GJ.

1949
01:42:32,667 --> 01:42:36,507
Speaker 1: Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home Builder News dogs there'd.

1950
01:42:36,347 --> 01:42:39,027
Speaker 3: Be two twenty nine. I love it when when I

1951
01:42:39,147 --> 01:42:42,867
Speaker 3: make a bold claim that there are any Melbourne Storm

1952
01:42:42,907 --> 01:42:46,147
Speaker 3: fans in New Zealand and I get told off. It's brilliant.

1953
01:42:46,147 --> 01:42:46,427
Speaker 6: I love it.

1954
01:42:46,547 --> 01:42:49,427
Speaker 3: Mike says, wrong, Jason, Tarboro, Nico and so many New

1955
01:42:49,467 --> 01:42:52,507
Speaker 3: Zealand origin players, originated players such as Big Nelson. Yeah,

1956
01:42:52,547 --> 01:42:55,947
Speaker 3: Big Nelson suffer Solomona. Of course, our coaches and others

1957
01:42:56,107 --> 01:42:59,667
Speaker 3: have large New Zealand connections. I'm Storm all the way. Thanks, Mike,

1958
01:42:59,747 --> 01:43:02,467
Speaker 3: appreciate your text. Have you never been to a game?

1959
01:43:02,667 --> 01:43:04,707
Speaker 3: Says this one when the Storm are playing? There are

1960
01:43:04,827 --> 01:43:07,467
Speaker 3: thousands of Storm fans in New Zealand have always had

1961
01:43:07,547 --> 01:43:09,547
Speaker 3: Keywis playing for them, back to the days of Tarward

1962
01:43:09,587 --> 01:43:12,547
Speaker 3: and Eco. There's another one, of course, Tuto was there.

1963
01:43:12,667 --> 01:43:15,827
Speaker 3: Sam says, we're Storm fans, have been for over two decades.

1964
01:43:15,907 --> 01:43:20,627
Speaker 3: Vicky says piney, I'm a loyal Storm fan. Definitely our year, Hi, Jason.

1965
01:43:20,667 --> 01:43:23,187
Speaker 3: Heaps of Storm fans, says Andrew, and New Zealand lo's

1966
01:43:23,187 --> 01:43:25,667
Speaker 3: of Keiwi League followers who live in Melbourne support the

1967
01:43:25,707 --> 01:43:29,227
Speaker 3: Storm and support the Kiwi's and Steve says I've supported

1968
01:43:29,307 --> 01:43:31,507
Speaker 3: since the days of Stephen Kearney, Tublet and Nico played

1969
01:43:31,507 --> 01:43:34,107
Speaker 3: for them, and Kearney assistant coach for them as well.

1970
01:43:34,387 --> 01:43:37,187
Speaker 3: Thanks Steve. I'm a big Melbourne Storm fan based in Auckland,

1971
01:43:37,507 --> 01:43:39,587
Speaker 3: been a fan since way back. I went to two

1972
01:43:39,627 --> 01:43:42,427
Speaker 3: of their Grand finals twenty sixteen twenty seventeen. Up the

1973
01:43:42,467 --> 01:43:46,987
Speaker 3: Storm baby and Mary says it's weird that Melbourne might

1974
01:43:47,027 --> 01:43:50,267
Speaker 3: win the NRL and Brisbane won the AFL. Yeah, it's

1975
01:43:50,307 --> 01:43:52,187
Speaker 3: so funny, isn't it? Two teams from outside of New

1976
01:43:52,267 --> 01:43:54,867
Speaker 3: South Wales contesting the Grand Final tonight? Just before we

1977
01:43:54,947 --> 01:43:57,107
Speaker 3: move here, I just actually had a look at a

1978
01:43:57,227 --> 01:43:59,907
Speaker 3: number of the players or players who have played KIWI

1979
01:43:59,947 --> 01:44:02,347
Speaker 3: players who have played for the Melbourne Storm. Heaps, Well,

1980
01:44:02,347 --> 01:44:04,147
Speaker 3: there's two there at the moment, right, there's two in

1981
01:44:04,227 --> 01:44:08,067
Speaker 3: the team tonight. Jerome Hughes and Will Warbrick are in

1982
01:44:08,187 --> 01:44:11,027
Speaker 3: the team at the moment. And then you just run

1983
01:44:11,027 --> 01:44:15,507
Speaker 3: your ride down. Kenny Bromwich, Jesse Bromwich, Tarwata, Nico, Stephen Kerney,

1984
01:44:15,547 --> 01:44:20,227
Speaker 3: Tohoo Harris had time there, and many many others. I'm

1985
01:44:20,267 --> 01:44:21,787
Speaker 3: not going to be able to get through. Adam Blair.

1986
01:44:22,307 --> 01:44:24,707
Speaker 3: Why don't you Corpu had time at the Melbourne Storm.

1987
01:44:27,067 --> 01:44:29,227
Speaker 3: Hey Piney go the Storm. Who can go past the

1988
01:44:29,307 --> 01:44:32,427
Speaker 3: era of Billy Slater, Cameron Smith, Greg Englis Cooper Kronk,

1989
01:44:32,547 --> 01:44:35,907
Speaker 3: Ryan Hoffman go the storm YEP Melbourne fan says this one.

1990
01:44:36,387 --> 01:44:38,947
Speaker 3: I was living in Melbourne nineteen ninety eight. Scott Hall,

1991
01:44:38,947 --> 01:44:42,147
Speaker 3: Breckcamwley in the Halves Lazarus and Robbie kerns up prop

1992
01:44:43,547 --> 01:44:47,307
Speaker 3: Tarbata in the thirteen etc. Good to know, Good to

1993
01:44:47,387 --> 01:44:49,467
Speaker 3: know that I can't make bold claims and not be

1994
01:44:49,587 --> 01:44:51,627
Speaker 3: called on it. Love it and I love that there

1995
01:44:51,667 --> 01:44:54,227
Speaker 3: are Melbourne Storm fans here in New Zealand. I know

1996
01:44:54,307 --> 01:44:57,107
Speaker 3: there are plenty of Broncos fans too. On Friday, the

1997
01:44:57,147 --> 01:45:00,067
Speaker 3: governments announced a five million dollar investments into a new

1998
01:45:00,147 --> 01:45:04,067
Speaker 3: center court roof for Auckland's Manuka Doctor Tennis Arena at

1999
01:45:04,187 --> 01:45:08,227
Speaker 3: Stanley Street. It's the first infrastrate ructure investment announced in

2000
01:45:08,307 --> 01:45:11,947
Speaker 3: the government's seventy million dollar Major Events and Tourism package,

2001
01:45:12,307 --> 01:45:16,347
Speaker 3: designed to energize the event sector, boost visitor numbers and

2002
01:45:16,507 --> 01:45:21,027
Speaker 3: drive economic activity across New Zealand. Rowan West is CEO

2003
01:45:21,067 --> 01:45:23,467
Speaker 3: of Tennis Auckland. Rowan thanks for joining US five million.

2004
01:45:23,547 --> 01:45:27,627
Speaker 3: That seems significant. How much will that cash injection from

2005
01:45:27,667 --> 01:45:31,947
Speaker 3: the government help support your Center Court roof project.

2006
01:45:32,867 --> 01:45:37,747
Speaker 13: Cure Jay five million is approximately one third of the

2007
01:45:37,827 --> 01:45:41,667
Speaker 13: total amount we're needing. We're looking at just on fifteen

2008
01:45:41,747 --> 01:45:44,627
Speaker 13: million dollars for the entire project. Quite a bit of

2009
01:45:44,707 --> 01:45:47,987
Speaker 13: that has actually already been spent with the demolition of

2010
01:45:48,027 --> 01:45:51,387
Speaker 13: the Robinson stand in some court extension works and other

2011
01:45:51,587 --> 01:45:54,627
Speaker 13: enabling works that we got going on, So yeah, it

2012
01:45:54,787 --> 01:45:59,267
Speaker 13: is significant. We already had around two point one million

2013
01:45:59,387 --> 01:46:02,227
Speaker 13: in the pot, so that takes us up to close

2014
01:46:02,267 --> 01:46:05,867
Speaker 13: to fifty percent and with a fair wind behind us,

2015
01:46:06,427 --> 01:46:09,787
Speaker 13: I think we'll be at about ten million by Christmas.

2016
01:46:09,907 --> 01:46:11,467
Speaker 10: So we're well on the way.

2017
01:46:11,907 --> 01:46:14,987
Speaker 13: And as I say, this is a really significant announcement

2018
01:46:15,307 --> 01:46:16,867
Speaker 13: and gets us well down the track.

2019
01:46:17,107 --> 01:46:18,947
Speaker 3: How much is Auckland Council going to kick in.

2020
01:46:20,387 --> 01:46:25,747
Speaker 13: We're still in discussions with them on the final number. Obviously,

2021
01:46:26,227 --> 01:46:28,507
Speaker 13: a news article came out a couple of weeks ago

2022
01:46:28,627 --> 01:46:30,627
Speaker 13: or a couple of months ago now that we were

2023
01:46:30,667 --> 01:46:33,587
Speaker 13: successful in getting a one point five million dollar grant

2024
01:46:33,667 --> 01:46:37,947
Speaker 13: from the Sport and Sport and Recreation Infrastructure Fund from

2025
01:46:37,987 --> 01:46:41,267
Speaker 13: the Council. So and part of that is going to

2026
01:46:41,387 --> 01:46:45,627
Speaker 13: these works that are currently ongoing, So yeah, they've committed,

2027
01:46:45,667 --> 01:46:48,747
Speaker 13: they're in the game and on the team. We're just

2028
01:46:48,907 --> 01:46:53,467
Speaker 13: working through some other options to get to that final

2029
01:46:53,547 --> 01:46:54,107
Speaker 13: fifteen mil.

2030
01:46:54,347 --> 01:46:56,307
Speaker 3: So I guess it helps, doesn't it when you approach

2031
01:46:56,507 --> 01:46:59,947
Speaker 3: private investors now, and I guess local government as well.

2032
01:47:00,387 --> 01:47:02,667
Speaker 3: There's a certainty now that this is going to happen.

2033
01:47:02,747 --> 01:47:04,307
Speaker 3: I mean, at the start, you had to get off

2034
01:47:04,347 --> 01:47:06,027
Speaker 3: the start line, and I know you did that well

2035
01:47:06,067 --> 01:47:09,787
Speaker 3: with some private investment, but now there's some certainty around this.

2036
01:47:10,907 --> 01:47:16,707
Speaker 13: Absolutely, you're dead right, and we're seeing that straightaway. Greg Long,

2037
01:47:16,827 --> 01:47:19,747
Speaker 13: our immediate past president, who's been leading the charge on

2038
01:47:20,027 --> 01:47:24,027
Speaker 13: most of our funding work outside of the grant sector,

2039
01:47:24,387 --> 01:47:28,307
Speaker 13: which is my responsibility. So he's been talking to a

2040
01:47:28,467 --> 01:47:31,987
Speaker 13: lot of high networth individuals and private donors. And he's

2041
01:47:32,067 --> 01:47:36,747
Speaker 13: also leading the process on our nineteen fifty six Club,

2042
01:47:36,787 --> 01:47:40,427
Speaker 13: which is a long term seat to venture program that

2043
01:47:40,547 --> 01:47:44,187
Speaker 13: we've launched, and we've sold about sixty percent of all

2044
01:47:44,267 --> 01:47:47,067
Speaker 13: the seats available for that, and that's going to be

2045
01:47:47,547 --> 01:47:50,867
Speaker 13: around one point two million dollars if we sell all

2046
01:47:50,947 --> 01:47:54,347
Speaker 13: the seats that we've got available. So yeah, and those

2047
01:47:54,627 --> 01:47:58,707
Speaker 13: discussions are really proven very fruitful. In the last twenty

2048
01:47:58,747 --> 01:47:59,867
Speaker 13: four hours, So it.

2049
01:47:59,987 --> 01:48:03,827
Speaker 3: Is big, outstanding. So Robin, bestcase scenario, when are we

2050
01:48:03,907 --> 01:48:04,667
Speaker 3: going to have a roof up?

2051
01:48:07,067 --> 01:48:13,107
Speaker 13: If all the planets aligned and everything was literally fast tracked,

2052
01:48:13,467 --> 01:48:15,627
Speaker 13: we could have this in place for the twenty twenty

2053
01:48:15,707 --> 01:48:21,587
Speaker 13: seven ASP Classic. But we're going to be heading reality

2054
01:48:21,667 --> 01:48:26,027
Speaker 13: and the realities of construction in the New Zealand environment.

2055
01:48:26,187 --> 01:48:29,547
Speaker 13: So we've got building consents, we've got tender processes, we've

2056
01:48:29,587 --> 01:48:37,187
Speaker 13: got building construction contracts to sign. So yeah, I certainly

2057
01:48:37,307 --> 01:48:41,227
Speaker 13: expect now that there will be a roof over Manuka

2058
01:48:41,267 --> 01:48:45,267
Speaker 13: Doctor Arena Center Court in the twenty twenty seven calendar year,

2059
01:48:45,747 --> 01:48:48,867
Speaker 13: whether it's in time for the ASP Classic twenty twenty seven.

2060
01:48:49,587 --> 01:48:51,667
Speaker 13: All the stars are going to have to align. But

2061
01:48:51,787 --> 01:48:53,787
Speaker 13: we're going to work our tails off to make sure

2062
01:48:54,067 --> 01:48:56,787
Speaker 13: that we do our best to get those stars aligned.

2063
01:48:56,547 --> 01:48:59,267
Speaker 3: All right, and if not twenty twenty eight obviously, Now

2064
01:48:59,507 --> 01:49:03,907
Speaker 3: this also means I think rowan increased capacity for Center Court, doesn't.

2065
01:49:04,587 --> 01:49:07,027
Speaker 13: Yes, that is part of the word that we've got

2066
01:49:07,187 --> 01:49:10,467
Speaker 13: going on right now. So we demolished the Robinson stand.

2067
01:49:11,307 --> 01:49:14,067
Speaker 13: The grand old Lady of Center Court had come to

2068
01:49:14,147 --> 01:49:18,347
Speaker 13: the end of its useful life, so we demolished that

2069
01:49:18,627 --> 01:49:22,227
Speaker 13: about two months ago, we had to increase the size

2070
01:49:22,267 --> 01:49:25,827
Speaker 13: of center court to meet ATP Tour standards. The game

2071
01:49:25,907 --> 01:49:28,827
Speaker 13: has become so much more powerful and the players are

2072
01:49:28,827 --> 01:49:32,427
Speaker 13: playing much deeper in the court these days, and they

2073
01:49:32,587 --> 01:49:35,947
Speaker 13: changed their standards about two years ago. So officially we

2074
01:49:36,107 --> 01:49:39,707
Speaker 13: were too short in terms of our total court area,

2075
01:49:40,147 --> 01:49:43,707
Speaker 13: so we're increasing the court area by about four meters

2076
01:49:43,747 --> 01:49:46,707
Speaker 13: in depth. But what that also allows us to do

2077
01:49:46,867 --> 01:49:49,907
Speaker 13: is put in a new temporary grand stand for the

2078
01:49:49,987 --> 01:49:53,787
Speaker 13: ASB Classic, which will go to one thousand seats instead

2079
01:49:53,827 --> 01:49:56,547
Speaker 13: of eight hundred which the old Robinson had. And then

2080
01:49:56,787 --> 01:49:59,787
Speaker 13: also in our northeast corner where we used to have

2081
01:49:59,907 --> 01:50:03,227
Speaker 13: a temporary corporate box stand, that's going to be converted

2082
01:50:03,307 --> 01:50:07,107
Speaker 13: to grandstand seating hiring grandstand and said for about two

2083
01:50:07,187 --> 01:50:10,067
Speaker 13: hundred and thirty, So we will end up with threey

2084
01:50:10,227 --> 01:50:14,707
Speaker 13: five hundred capacity, four hundred above what we had last year.

2085
01:50:15,427 --> 01:50:19,627
Speaker 3: Without these upgrades, would the ASB Classic Fortnite have been

2086
01:50:19,747 --> 01:50:21,347
Speaker 3: under serious threat.

2087
01:50:22,827 --> 01:50:24,147
Speaker 5: We always are, Jason.

2088
01:50:24,907 --> 01:50:28,267
Speaker 13: The people that aren't involved in tennis probably don't know

2089
01:50:28,867 --> 01:50:33,147
Speaker 13: what the pressures are to get these licenses and get

2090
01:50:33,187 --> 01:50:34,707
Speaker 13: these tournaments in countries.

2091
01:50:35,907 --> 01:50:37,427
Speaker 5: There is so much wealth out.

2092
01:50:37,347 --> 01:50:40,467
Speaker 13: There in the world that people just don't realize, whether

2093
01:50:40,707 --> 01:50:46,187
Speaker 13: at a city level, country level, or an individual investor level.

2094
01:50:46,947 --> 01:50:51,427
Speaker 13: So we're always being under pressure by countries or cities

2095
01:50:51,907 --> 01:50:55,667
Speaker 13: or even individuals to buy the licenses of the two

2096
01:50:55,747 --> 01:51:01,387
Speaker 13: tournaments we run. So if we don't upgrade our facilities,

2097
01:51:01,427 --> 01:51:05,827
Speaker 13: if we don't keep improving, one day, either an investor

2098
01:51:05,987 --> 01:51:10,107
Speaker 13: or or even the ATP itself will tap us on

2099
01:51:10,147 --> 01:51:12,347
Speaker 13: the shoulder and say, are you really serious?

2100
01:51:12,747 --> 01:51:13,707
Speaker 11: Is Auckland is.

2101
01:51:13,787 --> 01:51:17,307
Speaker 13: Tennis, Auckland is tennis New Zealand, Are you really serious

2102
01:51:17,347 --> 01:51:21,867
Speaker 13: about improving and being a world class tournament. If you're not,

2103
01:51:22,427 --> 01:51:24,907
Speaker 13: get out of the game, and then that would be

2104
01:51:24,987 --> 01:51:28,627
Speaker 13: devastating for Auckland and New Zealand and the sporting and

2105
01:51:28,787 --> 01:51:32,467
Speaker 13: entertainment landscape. So we pretty much have to do this,

2106
01:51:32,947 --> 01:51:35,267
Speaker 13: and it's like anything in the world. If you want

2107
01:51:35,307 --> 01:51:37,867
Speaker 13: to be world class, you've got to look around and

2108
01:51:37,987 --> 01:51:40,267
Speaker 13: see what your competition is and you've got to meet

2109
01:51:40,307 --> 01:51:41,627
Speaker 13: that or exceed it well.

2110
01:51:41,667 --> 01:51:43,707
Speaker 3: As I understand that the ASP Classic delivered to growth

2111
01:51:43,747 --> 01:51:47,067
Speaker 3: economic booth of twenty two point three million to Auckland

2112
01:51:47,547 --> 01:51:49,827
Speaker 3: this year, so yeah, well worth doing HSI. I just

2113
01:51:49,867 --> 01:51:52,587
Speaker 3: love the ambition because you're right. It would be easy

2114
01:51:52,627 --> 01:51:54,867
Speaker 3: to do nothing, wouldn't it, But then you know we

2115
01:51:55,227 --> 01:51:56,867
Speaker 3: would have to find something else to do in the

2116
01:51:56,907 --> 01:51:58,547
Speaker 3: first couple of weeks of January every year.

2117
01:51:59,427 --> 01:52:02,747
Speaker 13: Yeah, and we love being the go to sports and

2118
01:52:02,867 --> 01:52:06,707
Speaker 13: entertainment event for Auckland's and New Zealanders and people kind

2119
01:52:06,747 --> 01:52:09,227
Speaker 13: of forget that twenty five percent of all of our

2120
01:52:09,947 --> 01:52:14,747
Speaker 13: attendees come from outside of Auckland and three percent, about

2121
01:52:14,827 --> 01:52:17,867
Speaker 13: twelve hundred a year, come from overseas. So that's the

2122
01:52:18,347 --> 01:52:21,587
Speaker 13: likes of five seven, eight seven Dreamline is coming into

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Speaker 13: Auckland specifically for people to come and watch the ASP Classic.

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Speaker 13: You can't undervalue that, as you say, that's twenty three

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Speaker 13: million dollars twenty two million dollars of GDP gross GDP impact.

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Speaker 13: But what it also what we allsohire event throws into

2127
01:52:37,907 --> 01:52:42,107
Speaker 13: the government coffers about three million dollars of tax a year.

2128
01:52:42,667 --> 01:52:47,467
Speaker 13: So doing this project, increasing our capacity, running more third

2129
01:52:47,547 --> 01:52:50,587
Speaker 13: party events at the at the venue will increase the

2130
01:52:50,747 --> 01:52:55,027
Speaker 13: tax take for the government. So everybody wins. GDP grows,

2131
01:52:55,427 --> 01:53:00,547
Speaker 13: we can drive more growth in jobs and we run

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Speaker 13: more interesting and innovative events here at Minuka Doctor Arena.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say though just tennis, as

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01:53:06,067 --> 01:53:07,867
Speaker 3: it does us open the venue up to other events

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01:53:07,867 --> 01:53:08,187
Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, we've been looking to run more events here over

2138
01:53:14,187 --> 01:53:17,547
Speaker 13: the last few years. Some of your listeners might remember

2139
01:53:18,187 --> 01:53:20,907
Speaker 13: there was a concert here court Center Court Sounds with

2140
01:53:21,027 --> 01:53:24,107
Speaker 13: the New Zealand band Leisure in January this year. Went

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Speaker 13: off really well and it was almost a test case

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Speaker 13: of what we can do with a little boutique a

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01:53:29,347 --> 01:53:34,067
Speaker 13: venue in the CBD. This coming year in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 13: were actually going to be the host venue for the

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Speaker 13: Fever or the International Basketball Federation endorsed Death three on

2146
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Speaker 13: three Basketball World Cup, so they're going to be playing

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01:53:45,427 --> 01:53:48,227
Speaker 13: on Center Court in September next year, with or without

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Speaker 13: a roof over Center Court. And they're the sorts of

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01:53:51,187 --> 01:53:55,427
Speaker 13: events and even higher level events, maybe a Fever three

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01:53:55,507 --> 01:54:00,347
Speaker 13: on three World Series event, a World Beach Volleyball Tour event,

2151
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Speaker 13: lots of things, more concerts, So there's just almost unlimited

2152
01:54:07,187 --> 01:54:11,427
Speaker 13: range of events who need a boutique one to four

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01:54:11,547 --> 01:54:16,827
Speaker 13: thousand capacity arena close to downtown, close to transport links

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Speaker 13: that is accessible and affordable to rent. We think we're

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Speaker 13: going to be in a sweet spot for those sort

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Speaker 13: of events. In the future.

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Speaker 3: Well it's obvious you've got real momentum. Now a red

2158
01:54:27,947 --> 01:54:31,347
Speaker 3: letter day with government investment confirmed. Rowlan, thanks for your time.

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Speaker 3: Did I look forward to following the progress over the

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Speaker 3: next few months to the actual green light and then

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Speaker 3: over the next couple of years for the development of

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Speaker 3: the roof. Thanks for taking the time for a chat. Cheers, Jason,

2163
01:54:42,507 --> 01:54:45,227
Speaker 3: thank you, No, thank you Rowan West there he is

2164
01:54:45,347 --> 01:54:48,907
Speaker 3: the CEO of Tennis Auckland, so they've got traction, they've

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Speaker 3: got momentum. That roof is coming. Twenty twenty seven might

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01:54:52,627 --> 01:54:54,987
Speaker 3: be a bit ambitious, as Rowan said there, but certainly

2167
01:54:55,107 --> 01:54:57,627
Speaker 3: the ASP Classic at the start of twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 3: should be played under the roof at Minuka Doctor Tennis

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Speaker 3: Arena at Stanley Street in Auckland. Rarely tight battle going

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Speaker 3: on in Nelson between the Homeside Tasman and Counties Manico

2171
01:55:11,107 --> 01:55:14,227
Speaker 3: thirty six minutes gone at Trafalgar Park. Counties lead twenty

2172
01:55:14,267 --> 01:55:17,147
Speaker 3: points to nineteen, twenty points to nineteen. Needing to win

2173
01:55:17,267 --> 01:55:21,147
Speaker 3: Counties if they are to make the top eight, eighteen

2174
01:55:21,227 --> 01:55:23,627
Speaker 3: away from three. Going to come back and circle back

2175
01:55:23,667 --> 01:55:25,747
Speaker 3: to the rugby just to final few thoughts from the

2176
01:55:25,827 --> 01:55:28,387
Speaker 3: man of the match last night, Quinte Pyre and All

2177
01:55:28,427 --> 01:55:30,627
Speaker 3: Blacks head coach Scott Robertson to come.

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01:55:31,267 --> 01:55:34,947
Speaker 1: The tough questions off the turf Weekends Sport with Jason

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01:55:35,027 --> 01:55:39,347
Speaker 1: Pye and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder news.

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Speaker 4: Dogs Tepping go Insiber twenty two for left pen side

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01:55:45,267 --> 01:55:46,467
Speaker 4: on the Chargeley All.

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Speaker 3: It's right and the Quintin Pie with a couple of

2183
01:55:53,347 --> 01:55:58,147
Speaker 3: tries to punctuate a terrific performance in his first All

2184
01:55:58,227 --> 01:56:01,667
Speaker 3: Blacks start at center. How did quint to Pire feel

2185
01:56:01,667 --> 01:56:02,587
Speaker 3: about the game afterwards?

2186
01:56:02,947 --> 01:56:03,227
Speaker 5: Position?

2187
01:56:03,267 --> 01:56:04,667
Speaker 3: And I haven't played a lot at and.

2188
01:56:06,147 --> 01:56:08,027
Speaker 24: He got a lot of confidence from a midfield partner

2189
01:56:08,067 --> 01:56:10,427
Speaker 24: this week and the other boys in the group, Billy

2190
01:56:10,507 --> 01:56:14,947
Speaker 24: and Anton Reeks. So you're pretty pleased with that performance here.

2191
01:56:15,147 --> 01:56:16,987
Speaker 3: What was the plan for the All Blacks on attack

2192
01:56:17,107 --> 01:56:17,547
Speaker 3: last night?

2193
01:56:17,867 --> 01:56:20,707
Speaker 24: Yeah, we knew that a bit of a soft defense.

2194
01:56:21,907 --> 01:56:23,667
Speaker 24: The likes of sior Le and their wing. Theer's likes

2195
01:56:23,667 --> 01:56:26,747
Speaker 24: to make you dig right into the line, So I

2196
01:56:26,867 --> 01:56:29,547
Speaker 24: thought we trained this week. Si, you shot out quite

2197
01:56:29,547 --> 01:56:32,067
Speaker 24: a few times, changed the picture on us a little

2198
01:56:32,067 --> 01:56:36,947
Speaker 24: bit that we were despecting. But likes of guys like

2199
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Speaker 24: Leicester able to fight through that context.

2200
01:56:39,387 --> 01:56:43,107
Speaker 3: So yeah, what was the adjustment like and how big

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Speaker 3: was it from twelve to thirteen?

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Speaker 24: I guess defensively there's a lot more space to cover,

2203
01:56:48,787 --> 01:56:51,027
Speaker 24: so right there had to chase down Jorginson a few times.

2204
01:56:51,627 --> 01:56:55,307
Speaker 24: Not used to that, and it's a little bit tougher defensively,

2205
01:56:55,587 --> 01:56:57,347
Speaker 24: a bit more space on attack, which is nice.

2206
01:56:57,627 --> 01:57:00,387
Speaker 3: Was it a surprise to even be named at thirteen? Yeah,

2207
01:57:00,387 --> 01:57:00,987
Speaker 3: it was a surprise.

2208
01:57:00,987 --> 01:57:03,707
Speaker 24: I didn't really expect it Monday clarity. I was running

2209
01:57:03,747 --> 01:57:06,547
Speaker 24: on the wing in and name got called it enter

2210
01:57:06,627 --> 01:57:10,507
Speaker 24: on Tuesday morning with no heads up, so I was

2211
01:57:10,507 --> 01:57:13,587
Speaker 24: all over my detail thought. I trained very well there

2212
01:57:13,627 --> 01:57:16,067
Speaker 24: this week, a lot of confidence going into the game

2213
01:57:16,147 --> 01:57:20,347
Speaker 24: and yeah, I guess happy to play anywhere for this team.

2214
01:57:22,267 --> 01:57:23,707
Speaker 24: Just pretty keen to be on the field where it's

2215
01:57:23,707 --> 01:57:25,747
Speaker 24: twelve thirteen when the twenty two jumper.

2216
01:57:25,747 --> 01:57:27,947
Speaker 3: And how happy are the All Blacks two win back

2217
01:57:27,987 --> 01:57:31,667
Speaker 3: to back matches which has proved elusive during the Rugby Championship. Yeah,

2218
01:57:31,707 --> 01:57:32,707
Speaker 3: that's something we spoke about.

2219
01:57:33,147 --> 01:57:36,067
Speaker 24: We haven't backed up well, had big performances at the

2220
01:57:36,227 --> 01:57:37,867
Speaker 24: Eden Park and then fell off the week after, so

2221
01:57:39,307 --> 01:57:42,147
Speaker 24: very satis siren for the scroup. It's nice now to

2222
01:57:42,187 --> 01:57:45,827
Speaker 24: have three weeks off and with that performance, it's good

2223
01:57:45,827 --> 01:57:47,107
Speaker 24: slipping stone into the northern toil.

2224
01:57:47,307 --> 01:57:49,827
Speaker 3: That's the voice of Quinn to pire. So how did

2225
01:57:50,147 --> 01:57:53,027
Speaker 3: his head coach rate his performance? Here is Scott Robertson

2226
01:57:53,147 --> 01:57:54,027
Speaker 3: on Quinn to pire?

2227
01:57:54,427 --> 01:57:57,307
Speaker 28: Yeah? Really please? For May was Grady. He's pretty robust,

2228
01:57:57,507 --> 01:58:00,627
Speaker 28: tough physical. It was great to see him as ball

2229
01:58:00,707 --> 01:58:02,547
Speaker 28: Kerry and you know he'll be better for that test.

2230
01:58:02,827 --> 01:58:05,427
Speaker 3: How pleasing is it for Scott Robertson to go eleven

2231
01:58:05,547 --> 01:58:08,227
Speaker 3: straight games now without losing to Australia.

2232
01:58:08,307 --> 01:58:10,707
Speaker 28: It means a lot, you know, because we've had a

2233
01:58:10,747 --> 01:58:13,667
Speaker 28: few things that we wanted to keep the tradition, history

2234
01:58:13,707 --> 01:58:15,667
Speaker 28: on and other teams to set this up, so we

2235
01:58:15,707 --> 01:58:17,587
Speaker 28: wanted to keep that they're going and we know that

2236
01:58:17,667 --> 01:58:19,587
Speaker 28: Australia have got a you know a little bit of

2237
01:58:19,627 --> 01:58:22,947
Speaker 28: momentum in the Union and it's a sport that needs it.

2238
01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:25,547
Speaker 28: People come watch when you're winning and you know that

2239
01:58:25,707 --> 01:58:27,507
Speaker 28: Lions Tour and there's a little bit of higher around.

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Speaker 28: We knew how tough the series was going to be

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01:58:29,107 --> 01:58:31,947
Speaker 28: against them. Every series, well, every back to back games

2242
01:58:31,987 --> 01:58:34,387
Speaker 28: have been you know, we were just pleased and we

2243
01:58:34,507 --> 01:58:37,467
Speaker 28: respect them with a really over a week of good preparation.

2244
01:58:37,747 --> 01:58:41,107
Speaker 3: What was Scott Robertson's assessment of US two wingers last night?

2245
01:58:41,187 --> 01:58:43,787
Speaker 3: Leroy Carter and Leicester fighting unlookal.

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01:58:43,587 --> 01:58:48,307
Speaker 28: Lee Roy is pretty special, you know, he powerful, short, good, good,

2247
01:58:48,387 --> 01:58:52,307
Speaker 28: howks keeps his feed and understands really instinctual. And then

2248
01:58:52,307 --> 01:58:54,827
Speaker 28: obviously when you got Lester who can just run over

2249
01:58:54,907 --> 01:58:57,507
Speaker 28: people and carry people and hold his feet, it's a

2250
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Speaker 28: good balance. And he's got to left foot, so to

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01:59:00,147 --> 01:59:02,547
Speaker 28: have him and Caleb and someone that can go into

2252
01:59:02,587 --> 01:59:04,947
Speaker 28: the midfield so that they were all great. And Lerik

2253
01:59:05,147 --> 01:59:07,507
Speaker 28: is we know to play halfback, so they've got some

2254
01:59:07,627 --> 01:59:08,267
Speaker 28: great strengths.

2255
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Speaker 3: And finally from Scott Robertson, is his game plan starting

2256
01:59:12,107 --> 01:59:15,547
Speaker 3: to bed in as we approach the midway points of

2257
01:59:15,907 --> 01:59:16,827
Speaker 3: the World Cup cycle?

2258
01:59:16,947 --> 01:59:17,027
Speaker 24: Oh?

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01:59:17,147 --> 01:59:19,507
Speaker 28: You you always evolving it like in game stuff, and

2260
01:59:20,227 --> 01:59:21,867
Speaker 28: you're going to play some width and obviously it rained

2261
01:59:21,867 --> 01:59:23,467
Speaker 28: and then you can go back and forward between it.

2262
01:59:23,547 --> 01:59:26,147
Speaker 28: But probably the key thing is just not the way

2263
01:59:26,187 --> 01:59:29,067
Speaker 28: you play in the understandings when they get out there

2264
01:59:29,107 --> 01:59:30,947
Speaker 28: that you know what you coach for the week. It's

2265
01:59:31,027 --> 01:59:32,947
Speaker 28: at the time the call you how to get messages

2266
01:59:32,947 --> 01:59:35,627
Speaker 28: down there, get one or two. They've already said it,

2267
01:59:35,747 --> 01:59:38,027
Speaker 28: so that's part of what I was talking about, the game.

2268
01:59:38,067 --> 01:59:40,627
Speaker 28: And information is already on the field. They've got the answers.

2269
01:59:40,707 --> 01:59:42,867
Speaker 28: That's one part of it, and the other part is

2270
01:59:43,027 --> 01:59:44,747
Speaker 28: create depth, and you know we want to go four

2271
01:59:44,787 --> 01:59:47,067
Speaker 28: deep in each position, so we've created a lot of

2272
01:59:47,107 --> 01:59:49,587
Speaker 28: competition and we feel like we're getting there.

2273
01:59:49,747 --> 01:59:51,947
Speaker 3: That is Scott Robertson, of course, head coach, after the

2274
01:59:52,027 --> 01:59:54,267
Speaker 3: twenty eight to fourteen win last night. Now, just in

2275
01:59:54,307 --> 01:59:57,187
Speaker 3: a little footnote or a side note to this, about

2276
01:59:57,227 --> 01:59:59,947
Speaker 3: twenty four hours ago on the show, we played our

2277
01:59:59,947 --> 02:00:02,907
Speaker 3: Sporting Chance competition. We do this every Saturday. We offer

2278
02:00:02,947 --> 02:00:04,827
Speaker 3: a lucky you listen to the chance of three bets

2279
02:00:05,627 --> 02:00:08,067
Speaker 3: short evans a long and they decide which one they

2280
02:00:08,147 --> 02:00:11,227
Speaker 3: want and we place a one hundred and fifty dollars

2281
02:00:11,307 --> 02:00:14,067
Speaker 3: bonus bet on their behalf and if it comes home,

2282
02:00:14,227 --> 02:00:17,147
Speaker 3: the winnings minus the initial one fifty are their. Now,

2283
02:00:17,267 --> 02:00:20,747
Speaker 3: Lucy was our lucky Caully yesterday and I gave her

2284
02:00:20,987 --> 02:00:23,867
Speaker 3: her three options, So those are your choices, Lucy, Melbourne

2285
02:00:23,947 --> 02:00:26,467
Speaker 3: storm to win the Grand Final. That would get you

2286
02:00:26,507 --> 02:00:28,867
Speaker 3: one hundred and five the All Blacks to beat the

2287
02:00:28,867 --> 02:00:32,067
Speaker 3: Wallaby's thirteen plus that would get you two hundred and

2288
02:00:32,307 --> 02:00:36,307
Speaker 3: eighty five, or Nottingham Forest to beat Newcastle that would

2289
02:00:36,347 --> 02:00:38,707
Speaker 3: get you six hundred and thirty. Why you're getting some

2290
02:00:38,827 --> 02:00:40,787
Speaker 3: help there? Who's help being out on the background there?

2291
02:00:42,507 --> 02:00:45,667
Speaker 23: So I think I'll do the All Blacks.

2292
02:00:46,147 --> 02:00:49,187
Speaker 3: I heard that suggestion given by your very sensible husband,

2293
02:00:51,747 --> 02:00:54,107
Speaker 3: love it All Blacks about the Wallaby's thirteen plus. Well,

2294
02:00:54,147 --> 02:00:56,987
Speaker 3: place the bet for both of you and if that happens,

2295
02:00:57,307 --> 02:01:00,987
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty five dollars for you guys. All right, well,

2296
02:01:01,547 --> 02:01:03,827
Speaker 3: all right, So the All Blacks left it lay, didn't they?

2297
02:01:03,947 --> 02:01:07,347
Speaker 3: But in the eighty first minute a head by we had.

2298
02:01:07,227 --> 02:01:10,227
Speaker 4: This posted a line have to be certaints the last

2299
02:01:10,267 --> 02:01:16,907
Speaker 4: opportunity and aver and it's Jorge Bell.

2300
02:01:18,387 --> 02:01:20,507
Speaker 3: So I am sure among all the other All Blacks

2301
02:01:20,547 --> 02:01:23,387
Speaker 3: fans who were leaping about wildly at that point, Lucy

2302
02:01:23,507 --> 02:01:28,227
Speaker 3: and her husband also were, because that try got them

2303
02:01:28,307 --> 02:01:30,987
Speaker 3: to win in about six hundred and something dollars yesterday.

2304
02:01:31,187 --> 02:01:34,147
Speaker 3: So well done, Lucy and your husband, whose name I

2305
02:01:34,187 --> 02:01:37,587
Speaker 3: didn't catch, but who certainly helped with the option choice.

2306
02:01:38,227 --> 02:01:40,867
Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll find a good use for that cash.

2307
02:01:41,387 --> 02:01:42,587
Speaker 3: Nine to three News Talks in b.

2308
02:01:44,227 --> 02:01:46,787
Speaker 1: The sup from the Track, Fields and the Court, on

2309
02:01:46,987 --> 02:01:51,387
Speaker 1: your homes Sport, Weekend Sport with Jason Vine Us Talks.

2310
02:01:51,187 --> 02:01:54,107
Speaker 3: MB coming up five to three. Final piece of correspondence

2311
02:01:54,107 --> 02:01:55,987
Speaker 3: for the day from Andrew on text Jason. One more

2312
02:01:56,067 --> 02:01:58,867
Speaker 3: interesting fact about Jerome Hughes is he said in an

2313
02:01:58,907 --> 02:02:01,467
Speaker 3: interview this week the player who inspired him when he

2314
02:02:01,587 --> 02:02:04,827
Speaker 3: was younger was Jordan Cahu, who played in the twenty

2315
02:02:04,907 --> 02:02:08,187
Speaker 3: fifteen Grand Final for the Bronx to Wellington Boyce, who

2316
02:02:08,307 --> 02:02:11,187
Speaker 3: have done very well. Thanks Andrew, Thanks indeed for your text,

2317
02:02:11,227 --> 02:02:14,347
Speaker 3: Thanks for all your calls and your correspondence. This afternoon

2318
02:02:14,387 --> 02:02:16,587
Speaker 3: being a busy old show as we crowned a few

2319
02:02:16,667 --> 02:02:20,587
Speaker 3: issues sporting on the field and court and off the

2320
02:02:20,707 --> 02:02:23,827
Speaker 3: field and court. Huge thanks to Bevan Jee for producing

2321
02:02:23,867 --> 02:02:25,347
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Got on you mate, Go and enjoy the

2322
02:02:25,387 --> 02:02:27,467
Speaker 3: rest of your afternoon. I hope you enjoy your afternoon

2323
02:02:27,587 --> 02:02:29,947
Speaker 3: and evening as well. Tim Beveridge will take you through

2324
02:02:29,987 --> 02:02:32,867
Speaker 3: the rest of your Sunday afternoon with the Weekend Collective

2325
02:02:33,427 --> 02:02:36,907
Speaker 3: after three. I'm back on Sports Talk tomorrow night as

2326
02:02:36,987 --> 02:02:41,067
Speaker 3: we break down the weekends. All that is left is

2327
02:02:41,107 --> 02:02:43,427
Speaker 3: for an exit song today and with the NRL Grand

2328
02:02:43,507 --> 02:02:46,907
Speaker 3: Final on tonight in Sydney, and always thinking back to

2329
02:02:47,307 --> 02:02:49,947
Speaker 3: the late eighties when the NRL or the Winfield Cup

2330
02:02:49,987 --> 02:02:52,027
Speaker 3: as it was then kind of came into my consciousness

2331
02:02:52,107 --> 02:02:56,067
Speaker 3: and was sort of driven in there by the voice

2332
02:02:56,107 --> 02:02:59,747
Speaker 3: of Tina Turner, who the New South Wales Rugby League

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