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Speaker 1: the full picture. Heather Dupasy on Drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Coming up today, We're going to go to the Cooks

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Speaker 2: find out why this news has come out a day

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Speaker 2: before lux and meat Mashijin came very awkward. The economy

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Speaker 2: did better than we thought at the start of the year.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a chat to Kiri Banks, Jerry Kerr and

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Speaker 2: finally we've got the scientists who found that massive carbon sinc.

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Speaker 4: Heather dupersy Ala.

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Speaker 2: So I see the word crisis is being used to

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Speaker 2: describe this Cook Island funding situation. I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: an overstatement. I mean there's obviously been a real breakdown

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Speaker 2: in the relationship before we are now cutting nearly twenty

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Speaker 2: million dollars worth of funding to the Cox and especially

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Speaker 2: if it's Winston doing the cutting here. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is a guy whose first trip out of the country

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Speaker 2: of months later, where is he on a plane to

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Speaker 2: Tonga the Cooks samour he is obsessed with keeping the

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Speaker 2: Pacific free of China's influence. So for him to cut

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Speaker 2: money like this, I think is quite big. I also

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Speaker 2: think it tells us how difficult the Cook's government is being.

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Speaker 2: Is clearly what is going on here. Word is that

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Speaker 2: officials are being incredibly hard to deal with and incredibly

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Speaker 2: uncooperative on a number of fronts. Now, the most obvious

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Speaker 2: risk here is that if we cut the funding, we

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Speaker 2: only drive the Cooks even closer to China, and that's

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Speaker 2: obviously the opposite of what we want. They're given that

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Speaker 2: their cozy relationship with China was the very thing that

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Speaker 2: I don't regard that as a very high risk because

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Speaker 2: this is only twenty million dollars worth of funding. Right,

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Speaker 2: the Cooks still get New Zealand superannuation, New Zealand passports,

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Speaker 2: I don't think a cozying up even more to China

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Speaker 2: is what the people of the Cooks want, and that

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister wants. He wants the Cooks to have

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Speaker 2: is a crisis, especially for the Cooks, because they are

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Speaker 4: To Heather Duples see Allen.

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Speaker 2: Nine two is the text number. Standard text fees apply

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Speaker 2: will also go to Thomas Coglan who is in China

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Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister. As I say, very awkward time.

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Speaker 2: He will get his tape. Prome ministers just spoken in

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Speaker 2: this is what mentioned yesterday. There is only one doctor

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Speaker 2: those magic mushrooms. David Seymour. Yes that they didn't want

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Speaker 2: out at himself. He is Professor Cameron Lacey at Olimbia's

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Speaker 2: high Cameron, why do you out yourself?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's been a long time coming, in a lot

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Speaker 2: Twice David Seymore was reluctant to name you yesterday because

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Speaker 5: Yes. It's very clazing to see the response and deal

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Speaker 2: Cam Er I saw quite an astounding number today. It

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Speaker 5: There is an enormous number of people who are from

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Speaker 2: Well And Cameron sounds like it's quite an involved thing,

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Speaker 2: Like you don't just get some magic mushroom pills to

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Speaker 2: Cameron, how does it work? Does it? Why does it

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Speaker 5: So There's a number of theories about how it works,

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Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff. Hey, Cameron, thanks so much, appreciate it. Professor

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Speaker 2: now you know who the guy is, Prime Minister's press conference.

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Speaker 2: already started thirty minutes ago. No, it hasn't. It's running

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine sports talk hosters with us. Now, Hey Piney, Hello, Okay,

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Speaker 2: are you giving it to the Crusaders?

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Speaker 6: No? No, I'm not. I'm not going to give it

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Speaker 6: to the Crusaders. I'm going to give it to the Chiefs. Look,

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Speaker 6: it's a coin floop. She doesn't matter what either of

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Speaker 6: I tell you the reason I'm giving it to the

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Speaker 6: Chiefs is the man in the ten jersey for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: I think Damien McKenzie. If you look at the forty

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Speaker 6: your eyes just get drawn to him and the influence

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Speaker 6: the player in that jumper. We all know Damien McKenzie's qualities.

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Speaker 6: Revers Raehart is a good player, but he's not Damien McKenzie.

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Speaker 6: So I feel as though he may well be a

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure this is what you said on Monday,

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Speaker 2: So you're consistent, right, So I am picking. I'm picking

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Speaker 2: that you're going to I'm picking this for Saturday. Then

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Speaker 2: I'm going to put my money there.

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Speaker 6: Piney, I thought you were going to say, now that

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Speaker 6: I've picked the Chiefs, you're going to put your money

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Speaker 2: Carun No, because you've been getting it right lately. So

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get to here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right, I mean, look, yeah, put it

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Speaker 6: this way here, as you know, I mean, the Crusaders

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Speaker 6: could well win. They've won the last thirty one games

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Speaker 6: both teams have got reasons to lift Apart from a

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Speaker 6: their best players, Sean Stevenson. The Crusaders are saying goodbye

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Speaker 6: to dear old Eddington as they look forward to moving

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Speaker 6: into their new stadium next year. There's all sorts of

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Speaker 7: That's what I hope.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I agree with you. Now, Look, do you think

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Speaker 6: I've had a couple of looks at it. I don't

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Speaker 6: I mean, whenever you slow anything like that down, it

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Speaker 6: be a bit of niggle. But eye gouging, I think

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Speaker 7: So I'm going to say, no, so what is it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, why do you I don't think it was

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: what And it's impossible to know, but I'm not sensing intent. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it can you know, it can make contact with the eyes.

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Speaker 7: That can happen. It's whether he.

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Speaker 6: Went in there deliberately, you know, looking looking for you know,

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Speaker 6: And I'm not sure that that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Heather. When I was in the police, we

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Speaker 1: Talking recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, we absolutely will get you across this. We

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Speaker 2: of good news, eh, the old GDP number came out

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Speaker 2: the good news with Jared Kirk will bear us after

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Speaker 2: five o'clock. Murray Olds is standing by its twenty four

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Speaker 1: The World Wires on News Talk, sa'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump says he hasn't made up his mind about

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Speaker 4: You don't know that I'm going to even do it.

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Speaker 5: You don't know.

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Speaker 9: Nobody knows what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 10: They want to meet, but it's it's a little led

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Speaker 11: But they want to meet, and they want to come

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Speaker 2: Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong has called on Iran to

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Speaker 12: That Ryan has a choice here and it should make

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Speaker 2: And finally, the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders are getting a pay

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Speaker 4: Our hard work.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: Murray OL's OSIT correspondent is with us now mass Hello,

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Speaker 2: very good afternoon. Where are we at with the mushroom trial.

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Speaker 3: We think the Defense Council will finish his summing up

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Speaker 3: to the jury this afternoon. That was the last thing

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Speaker 3: I saw a few minutes ago. The newspapers are doing,

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Speaker 3: you know, blow by a blow. They've got people in

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Speaker 3: world has been captivated by this trial. It's just astonishing.

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Speaker 3: It's gone on for weeks and weeks and weeks. Aaron

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Speaker 3: my client panicked. She made this lunch guests were unwell

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Speaker 3: course she panicked. She did not mean to do them

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Speaker 3: he took the jerry to a bunch of different things.

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Speaker 3: The accused woman, Miss Pattison, She couldn't say where the

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Speaker 3: absolutely fascinating stuff. I cannot wait until the jury retires,

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Speaker 3: and what do they say. If the jury's back in

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Speaker 3: Heather possibly they are unable to come to a unanimous verdict.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we're all quite keen to see how

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 3: I can't. I simply can't. I know that Aaron Patterson

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Speaker 13: It's just crazy totally.

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Speaker 2: Now, hey listener, are you guys going to be able

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: have registered to be evacuated from Israel. There's another large

438
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Speaker 3: number who wanted to be taken out of Iran. I mean, look,

439
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Speaker 3: there's no surprise many Israelis live here in Australia. Many

440
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Speaker 3: Iranians are living here in Australia, so they've got family

441
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 3: back there and people are back for weddings and say

442
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Speaker 3: goodbye to parents and all the rest of it. So

443
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Speaker 3: no surprise at thousands of Australians are in the Middle

444
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Speaker 3: East in these two countries right now. A small bunch

445
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Speaker 3: has been evacuated out by land from Israel. Of course,

446
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Speaker 3: you know, the skies above Israel and Iran are closed,

447
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Speaker 3: so there's no one flying out. They've got twelve and

448
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: more waiting to leave, probably by land, but at this

449
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Speaker 3: stage there's no plans in place for fifteen hundred others

450
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Speaker 3: who want to get out of Israel. There's no way

451
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Speaker 3: to get them out at this point because, as I say,

452
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Speaker 3: airspace is closed. You know, you've got missiles whizzing around,

453
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Speaker 3: drones and the aircraft fire and so on. Now in

454
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Speaker 3: Iran another large river of Australias, but we don't know

455
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Speaker 3: how many even more perilous of course for those people.

456
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Speaker 3: They're the advice to get out of Tehran if you can,

457
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Speaker 3: even you just get out of the city because that's

458
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Speaker 3: where it's you know, that's where Israel's attacks are being

459
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Speaker 3: are being directed primarily, So get out of the city

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Speaker 3: if you can't. Shelter where you can, and there are

461
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Speaker 3: we understand a bunch of different places across the city

462
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Speaker 3: where you can take shelter and look, a Department of

463
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Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs is working on the clock to get these

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Speaker 3: plans in place. But evacuation by air is out of

465
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Speaker 3: the question right now.

466
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Speaker 2: Mass Have you won the hundred million dollars?

467
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Speaker 3: No, I haven't, but someone has. Imagine that one hundred

468
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Speaker 3: million dollars. The ticket was sold at Bondai Junction in

469
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Speaker 3: Sydney's Eastern Suburbs a week ago today, last Thursday, okay,

470
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Speaker 3: and this was a lot of powerball. Half a dozen

471
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Speaker 3: times in Australia we've had the jackpots of this size,

472
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Speaker 3: but I think it might be the first time that

473
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Speaker 3: a single ticket, a single ticket has got all the

474
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Speaker 3: numbers right. So either this person doesn't know that one, well,

475
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Speaker 3: they're too scared to come forward right now for fever

476
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Speaker 3: being overwhelmed by what you know, I've got a Harvard

477
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Speaker 3: bridgeess alia.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'll tell you what mus If I had that

479
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Speaker 2: winning ticket, I need to take it in as soon

480
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Speaker 2: as possible, wouldn't you, because I would just lie there

481
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Speaker 2: filled with anxiety all night that I might misplace it

482
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Speaker 2: or burn it.

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Speaker 3: No kidding exactly, I'll be exactly like you. So look,

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Speaker 3: I suppose the most logical explanation is if somebody's bought it,

485
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Speaker 3: to put it in their walld.

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Speaker 4: Or their hand, know it's there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jeez.

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Speaker 3: And the big advice is to register if you're a

489
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Speaker 3: regular player, register because that way your details are in

490
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Speaker 3: the computer system. If you do win but the buy

491
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Speaker 3: wasn't registered, it's not all doom and gloom though, because

492
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Speaker 3: the winner has six years I learned today to claim

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Speaker 3: their prize. So but the one with you. If I've

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Speaker 3: won that, I'm Australia with there. It might even take

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Speaker 3: an uber.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you'd have to treat yourself. Listen, muz,

497
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Speaker 2: thank you very much, appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia corresponding,

498
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Speaker 2: wouldn't you just like six years? Wouldn't you just lie

499
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Speaker 2: there with such anxiety? I mean, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time I burned a scrap

501
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Speaker 2: of paper accidentally. Probably never. If I had that ticket, though,

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Speaker 2: that would be four of my mind. I'd be like,

503
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Speaker 2: I just know I'm going to set fire to this.

504
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Speaker 2: I don't know how, but it will burn, and I

505
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Speaker 2: will in the middle of the night as well, when

506
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Speaker 2: I'm doing nothing. It will just combust and I'd have

507
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Speaker 2: to take it into that Lottery Commission absolutely immediately get

508
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Speaker 2: the money in the bank. And even then I'd probably

509
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Speaker 2: have to split it up in multiple accounts because I'd

510
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Speaker 2: be terrified that the one account would die. Just never

511
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: happened to me, but obviously that would happen. If you've

512
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Speaker 2: got one hundred million dollars, you know what I mean. Oh,

513
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Speaker 2: it's a burden to have that much money, isn't it. Heather,

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Speaker 2: are you across this proposal that Simon Watts has suggested

515
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Speaker 2: for a ute tax. He's either a deluded idiot or

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Speaker 2: he is trying to complete his CV for membership in

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Speaker 2: the Green Party. Peter, thank you for pointing it out. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I am, and I'm going to get you across it,

519
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Speaker 2: and we will be discussing this quite a bit today,

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Speaker 2: So stand by. We'll get you across it before five.

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Speaker 2: We'll check him with what's going on with the Prime minister?

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Speaker 2: Next sixteen Away.

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Speaker 1: From five, pack politics with centrics Credit, check your customers

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Speaker 1: and get payments.

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Speaker 4: Certainy, all right.

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Speaker 2: Jason Walls's political editor is with me right now.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Jason, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jason, bit of a dodgy connection with China A

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Speaker 2: So I don't imagine that you've heard very much what

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister has had to say.

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Speaker 14: Unfortunately not as of yet. He just had a stand

532
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Speaker 14: up with media over there. Unfortunately we weren't able to

533
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Speaker 14: hear what it was, given that the fact that there was,

534
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Speaker 14: as you said, a bit of a dodgy connection.

535
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Speaker 2: So we are waiting for them basically to file through

536
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Speaker 2: to us what he's had to say. But in the meantime,

537
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Speaker 2: let's deal with what is actually happening here on the ground.

538
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Speaker 2: So what caused this, What brought this on for Winston

539
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Speaker 2: Peters to be so annoyed at the Cooks that he

540
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Speaker 2: cuts this money.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's been an ongoing saga. And you'll know this

542
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Speaker 14: isn't the first time that we've actually talked about this

543
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Speaker 14: issue the Cooks. This cooperation agreement with China has been

544
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Speaker 14: a bit of a thorn in Winston Peters's side for

545
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Speaker 14: some time because he's been asking for information. He's been

546
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Speaker 14: specifically requesting how this cooperation agreement between the Cooks and

547
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Speaker 14: China affects New Zealand. Now, he was at Pains today

548
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Speaker 14: to point out that it's okay for them to have

549
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Speaker 14: such an agreement, but the fact that New Zealand is

550
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Speaker 14: such a close partner to the Cooks has no idea

551
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Speaker 14: what's going on has been a real problem for Winston.

552
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Speaker 14: So he dispensed with the carrot and went from this

553
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Speaker 14: with the stick this morning and the big front page

554
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Speaker 14: article from the cook News was a big photo of

555
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Speaker 14: Winston Peters saying and then next to it essentially saying

556
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Speaker 14: New Zealand holts funding it to the Cook Islands. According

557
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Speaker 14: to the newspaper reports, New Zealand has paused millions of

558
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Speaker 14: dollars of funding to the Cook Islands, citing a breach

559
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Speaker 14: of trust and a lack of consultation regarding the Cook

560
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Speaker 14: Island's recent funding agreement with China. So we spoke to

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Speaker 14: Winston this morning and here's what he had to say

562
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Speaker 14: about that.

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Speaker 11: We are saying, look, we wanted to do a review.

564
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Speaker 11: We want an assurance that our special rationship remained special.

565
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Speaker 11: So we've got responsibilities ourselves here and we want to

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Speaker 11: make sure that we didn't put a step wrong in

567
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Speaker 11: our commitment and our special arrangements, which goes back decades.

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Speaker 14: So over the past three years, New Zealand's given about

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Speaker 14: one hundred and ninety million dollars worth of development aid

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Speaker 14: to the Cooks. Over the next financial year it was

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Speaker 14: looking to be closer to eighteen million dollars. So that's

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Speaker 14: been paused until we can get a little bit more

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Speaker 14: of an understanding about what it was in that agreement. Now, Winston,

574
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Speaker 14: to his credit, has been asking and he's been waiting

575
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Speaker 14: politely for some time now, and it seems like he's

576
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Speaker 14: just had enough of waiting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how long ago did the cook sign this.

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Speaker 14: I my memory was it was potentially late to mid

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Speaker 14: last year. I can't remember the date exactly, but I

580
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Speaker 14: know that this year, well, it's blown up a couple

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Speaker 14: of times. I mean, that's the thing, because it keeps

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Speaker 14: flaring up at different times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so publicly, I think it blew up in February.

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Speaker 2: So we are now four months down the track. If

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Speaker 2: Winston Doing has done this four months down the track,

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Speaker 2: that means he is not making headway with the Cock

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Speaker 2: Island's government. That's that says to me that they are

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Speaker 2: being very obstructive here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean clearly they are.

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Speaker 14: You don't make a move like this, as as geopolitically

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Speaker 14: tense as something like this unless you really mean it,

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Speaker 14: because I mean, it's has been compared to a Trumpian

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Speaker 14: move to basically say, we don't like what you're doing,

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Speaker 14: so we're going to stop funding to this country. Although

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Speaker 14: Cook Island's technically isn't a country, it's a realm of

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Speaker 14: New Zealand, or the realm country as it's called, New

597
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Speaker 14: Zealand still has quite a lot of influence of over

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Speaker 14: the Cooks in terms of, you know, we have a

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Speaker 14: visa free access. We have the same currency. So I'm

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Speaker 14: interested to see what happens next with the Cooks if

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Speaker 14: this is going to force their hand.

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Speaker 2: Who has compared Winston to Trump on this matter?

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Speaker 14: Listen, it was a it was a newsroom article.

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Speaker 2: I tribute deeply unfair to him, don't you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if anybody is considered when it comes to the Pacific

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Speaker 2: and the battle over the hearts and minds of people

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Speaker 2: in the Pacific between China and the West, it is

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Speaker 2: it is Winston Peter.

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Speaker 14: It is Winston Raymond Peters.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you.

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Speaker 14: I mean, nobody does it better than Winston when it

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Speaker 14: comes to the Pacific. And I'm not just saying that

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Speaker 14: because he's sitting in the room right right now with

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Speaker 14: me to a gun with a gun to my head.

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Speaker 14: I'm saying it because he's actually made this sort of

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Speaker 14: impact on the Pacific and that will go down as

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Speaker 14: his legacy, very well respected by the Pacifically, you.

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Speaker 2: Think China cares?

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Speaker 14: Listen. I often think about this and think, in the

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Speaker 14: sort of the geopolitical struggles that little Old New Zealand has,

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Speaker 14: does China care? But I think given the fact that

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Speaker 14: the Prime Minister is over in China right now, and

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Speaker 14: we'll be meeting with Shuji Ping within the coming days.

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Speaker 14: I think it will be on their agenda. There would

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Speaker 14: at least be briefed about it, and Christopher Luxon will

626
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Speaker 14: be asking some questions to see if you can get

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Speaker 14: some clarity from the Chinese side of things.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jason, thank you, appreciate you stepping into the breach

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Speaker 2: here for us. That is Jason Walls, political editor, Newstalks

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Speaker 2: that be nine away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast some of.

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Speaker 15: The blockage in the public systems. Do things look like

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Speaker 15: they're going past four o'clock in the afternoon? A procedures

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Speaker 15: put off for another day. Doctor Richard Sullivan is the

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Speaker 15: chief clinical officer at Health New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: And Pimble uns that does it too.

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Speaker 15: We had the Health Minister and also said rightly wrongly,

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Speaker 15: it's the way the unions have stitched this up.

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Speaker 4: Is that true?

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Speaker 16: Yes, So we have to align our schedules with our

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Speaker 16: employment agreements.

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Speaker 17: Why are you doing operations at date at night?

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Speaker 4: I mean we did do operations I had to night,

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Speaker 4: so I.

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Speaker 15: Mean outside of emergency. I'm talking about regular scheduled elective operations.

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Speaker 15: Why are you running theaters? Twenty four seven?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we don't run there's twenty four seven.

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Speaker 18: Part of that is about our employment agreements.

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Speaker 16: Also part of this stab looking up jail workforce.

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Speaker 15: Mag Monday from six am, the Mike asking breakfast would

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Speaker 15: the Defender Octor news talk Z'd be Heather.

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Speaker 2: If you won one hundred million dollars, you could buy

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Speaker 2: yourself your own pineapple processing machine and you would be

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Speaker 2: the talk of the town. Fash it would be one

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Speaker 2: of the first. Because I actually this morning I ate

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Speaker 2: the last of my pineapple slices that came from the

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Speaker 2: New World that got burned down, and I thought, well

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Speaker 2: that's the end of that then, because it's going to

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Speaker 2: be a long time between drinks, probably years to rebuild

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Speaker 2: that thing. So I will need that money actually to

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Speaker 2: buy my pineapple machine. Five away from five now, said

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Speaker 2: I get you across this U tax. So this is

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Speaker 2: what's going on. I came last Friday a tax advisory

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Speaker 2: partner called Craig McAllister said hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: if you're buying those utes at field Days, just we'll

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Speaker 2: hang on it to just be aware you might be

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Speaker 2: getting yourself into a little bit of trouble because there's

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Speaker 2: a tax grenade coming at you. The budget changed the

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Speaker 2: rules on fringe benefit tax, and people obviously didn't listen

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Speaker 2: because they went around and bought a lot of utes,

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Speaker 2: and then the ird came out of the Craig's wrong. Don't

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Speaker 2: worry about it, double cab. Youu'eds treated no differently to

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Speaker 2: any other vehicle. Misinformation. Misinformation. Well, actually he might have

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Speaker 2: been right. Federated farmers reckon that. What's happened is under

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Speaker 2: this new proposal, utes costing over eighty thousand dollars will

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Speaker 2: be taxed at one hundred percent of their value. Right,

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Speaker 2: even if this is federated farmers, Even if used almost

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Speaker 2: exclusively for farm work, that would result in an annual

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Speaker 2: tax bill for the farmer of between five and a

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Speaker 2: half thousand dollars and eight thousand dollars two hundred. Everyone else,

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Speaker 2: like employees and share milkers, would be packed taxed on

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Speaker 2: thirty five percent of the ute's value. That's around eighteen

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Speaker 2: hundred to twenty seven hundred dollars annually for a fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars vehicle. So, as you can see, a lot

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Speaker 2: of farmers are suddenly going to have to potentially find

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Speaker 2: a lot of money because the old fringe benefit tax

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Speaker 2: really does suck, doesn't it. Anyway, we're going to have

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Speaker 2: a chat to Federated Farmers about it. This appears to

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Speaker 2: be Simon Watts, that particular minister, so he might be

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Speaker 2: finding himself. And the farmers already do not love Simon,

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Speaker 2: a little bit worried about what Simon's doing with the

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Speaker 2: climate change stuff, so this is probably not going to

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Speaker 2: increase that love affair, if you know what I mean. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we'll have a chat to federod of Farmers after half

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Speaker 2: past five about that. But we're straight off to the

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Speaker 2: Cooks after the news to speak to the journalists who

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Speaker 2: broke the story and just find out if this was

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Speaker 2: leaked deliberately to upend Chris Luckson's meeting with Cheesing Pang Newstok.

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Speaker 8: Jet by.

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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Oring it's either dupus the on drive with one New

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Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be afternoon. In something of a shock, the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand government has paused nearly twenty million dollars of support

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Speaker 2: funding to the islands. Now, this is a sign of

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Speaker 2: just how big the rift between the two countries has

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Speaker 2: grown since the Cooks signed that partnership agreement with China

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Speaker 2: and didn't let us know. Here's what Foreign Minister Winston

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Speaker 2: Peters wants.

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Speaker 11: We want assure said our special relationship remained special.

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Speaker 2: Rational Kumar is the journalist at the Cook Islands News

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Speaker 2: who broke the story Rational. Hello, hey Karona, Now was

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Speaker 2: that story planted in order to overshadow Chris Luxin's meeting

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Speaker 2: with Chiji Peng or did you come across it through

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Speaker 2: your own efforts?

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Speaker 19: I think you are maybe the third person from New

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Speaker 19: Zealand who has asked me that no, it wasn't planted.

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Speaker 19: I founded in the Public Arts Committee report which was

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Speaker 19: stabled in Parliament this week, and in the report it

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Speaker 19: said with concern they can see a reduction of ten

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Speaker 19: million dollars from New Zealand and they wanted to know

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Speaker 19: what has happened in the funding and they were told

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Speaker 19: that it was due to some sort of uncertainty and

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Speaker 19: ongoing discussions with New Zealand government. And then of course

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Speaker 19: we went to our Foreign minister to ask for some comments.

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Speaker 19: We didn't get much from him or we got nothing

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Speaker 19: from him, and then yesterday we went to New Zealand

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Speaker 19: to see whether it has to do anything with the

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Speaker 19: China agreements. And yeah, so that's where the story happened.

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Speaker 2: Now what I'm hearing, and this is what the word

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Speaker 2: is at the moment. It's that this has been brought

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Speaker 2: about because the Cook Island government has been incredibly difficult

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Speaker 2: to deal with for the New Zealand governments. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 19: That's what New Zealand is saying. Cook Islands is claiming. Otherwise,

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Speaker 19: they're saying that we are dealing the best we can

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Speaker 19: and they're actually in dark or they according to a

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Speaker 19: statement from our Foreign Affairs Ministry a while ago, they're

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Speaker 19: not sure what has really happened. You know, they tried

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Speaker 19: their best to I guess lay off all any fears

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Speaker 19: that the agreements with China had, but yeah, so they're

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Speaker 19: not sure. According to them, they're doing their best what

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Speaker 19: they can do to I guess satisfy New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Is this important enough money for the Cooks to change?

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Speaker 2: It's if there isn't if there is a problem with

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Speaker 2: its approach.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it is important money because I think most people

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Speaker 19: are aware the Cook Islands is a developed nation and

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Speaker 19: New Zealand probably is our biggest obviously biggest partner, and

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Speaker 19: the amount of money that we get is substantial. And

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Speaker 19: the twenty million dollars, some twenty million dollars confirmed by

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Speaker 19: the News the Ministry of Foreign Affairs this morning, goes

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Speaker 19: towards core sector support, which is public sector as well

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Speaker 19: as the Health Ministry, education, tourism.

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Speaker 5: So it's a substantial amount.

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Speaker 19: And by the tone of our Foreign Affairs Ministry statement

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Speaker 19: this afternoon, there seems to be walking progress to make

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Speaker 19: sure that whatever rift and whatever misunderstanding as they claim

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Speaker 19: there is resolved so funding can resume.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Okay, hey, thank you very much. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time. That's rational Kuma, the Cook Islands News.

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Speaker 4: Journalist, to see Ellen, it's.

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Speaker 2: A good economic news for us today. GDP is up

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Speaker 2: by even more than we thought it would be. The

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Speaker 2: economy grew zero point eight percent in the first quarter

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Speaker 2: of the CN Now. Unfortunately most commentators don't think quarter two,

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Speaker 2: the one we're in right now, will be quite so good.

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Speaker 2: Jared kurz Kiwibank's chief economist, Hi Jarrett, Hi, did you

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Speaker 2: take some heart from this.

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, it's a good report.

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Speaker 20: It showed we had a bit of momentum coming into

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Speaker 20: the year. Shows the primary sector, you know, farmers are

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Speaker 20: doing well. But as you suggested, just before, it's the

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Speaker 20: second quarter where things start to unravel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about before we go into the second quarter?

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Speaker 2: What about the fact that we actually, for the first

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Speaker 2: time in feels like ages saw the capita GDP rising

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Speaker 2: by zero point five percent. How much hat should we

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Speaker 2: take from that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 20: Like I said, it was a good report for the

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Speaker 20: first quarter. You know, it's nice to see parts of

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Speaker 20: the economy growing again. So yeah, look we think it's

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Speaker 20: a good report.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So, as you say, second quarter not looking

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Speaker 2: so flash. So taking those two things combined, what does

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Speaker 2: this mean for the next Reserve Bank meeting?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, So the data that we talked about was for

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Speaker 20: the first quarter. Obviously, it predates Trump's tariff announcements, which

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Speaker 20: have thrown a whole lot of uncertainty into the air,

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Speaker 20: and it also predates the recent spike on oil prices.

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Speaker 20: So all of us is having attacks on consumers around

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Speaker 20: the world, and here in New Zealand, you know, food

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Speaker 20: prices are up. Energy prices are up, and now petrol

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Speaker 20: prices will rise, so that's going to stretch household budgets

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Speaker 20: even further.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think, do we get a cut?

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Speaker 20: Oh, we need a cut, we need three. In fact,

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Speaker 20: I think the Reserve Bank absolutely. I think that the

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Speaker 20: interest rates sensitive parts of the economy haven't recovered and

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Speaker 20: they're really struggling, and we need support. We need an

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Speaker 20: economy running closer to its capacity. We're well below that

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Speaker 20: at the moment. And I think it ruis that interstrates

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Speaker 20: just haven't Okay, Jared really had an impact.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you on that, but that

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Speaker 2: is actually not the Reserve Bank's job, right. The Reserve

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Speaker 2: Bank's job is to deal with inflation. Inflation is creeping

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Speaker 2: up towards the top of the band, can they take

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Speaker 2: that risk?

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Speaker 20: So that's a short term thing. So we think inflation

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Speaker 20: spikes now basically, but over the medium term it's headed

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Speaker 20: back to two and on our forecast it actually falls

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Speaker 20: below two. So we're concerned about the medium term, and

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Speaker 20: that is their mandate. Inflation over the medium term, and

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Speaker 20: it's falling whither, it's heading south. So I think they

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Speaker 20: should be a bit more proactive and get they're currently

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Speaker 20: running again.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Jered, always good to talk to you, thanks mate.

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Speaker 2: That's Jared Kerr, Kiwibank chief economist. Ever, kay, if you're

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Speaker 2: thinking about if you're already starting to think about where

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Speaker 2: to send the kiddies for university, they don't get to say,

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Speaker 2: by the way, you get to choose. The rankings are

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Speaker 2: out today. Auckland's in the top one hundred. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a chat about that shortly. Shane Jones wants to

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Speaker 2: scrap regional councils in classic Shane Jones style. The people

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Speaker 2: he chose to tell this too was a room full

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Speaker 2: of people that included people who are on regional councils.

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Speaker 2: He just just out and outset it to them. That's it,

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Speaker 2: we want to get rid of your jobs. He reckons

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Speaker 2: that once the RMA changes happen, there will be less

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Speaker 2: and less of a justifiable purpose for maintaining regional government.

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Speaker 2: Now it's Shane Jones, So a lot of what Shane

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Speaker 2: says never happens. You have to bear that in mind.

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Speaker 2: Just think about it. What's he actually done since he's

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Speaker 2: been in government? However, how good would it be to

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Speaker 2: get rid of regional government. I mean, are you not

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Speaker 2: getting to the point now where you're thinking, why in

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Speaker 2: God's name have we got this?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: I just look at Wellington for example. You've got Wellington

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Speaker 2: City Council, Portua Council, Hut Council, the Lower Hut Council

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Speaker 2: whatever they call themselves, I don't even know. And then

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Speaker 2: on top of all of that, they've got the Wellington

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Speaker 2: Regional Council. Right, this is like an abundance of councils.

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Speaker 2: You don't need that many. So I am with on

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Speaker 2: the fact that I would like to see the end

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Speaker 2: of regional council. By the way, in New Zealand we

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Speaker 2: have eleven regional councils. I would love it if he

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Speaker 2: could actually do this thing. I think it's probably a

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Speaker 2: while away, but we're going to talk to the huddle

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Speaker 2: about whether this is actually a good idea when they're

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Speaker 2: with us later on quarter past. They say, in Spain,

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Speaker 2: rainfalls mainly on the plains. Here in New Zealand, though,

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Speaker 2: ranges falls everywhere. We have rain on all terrain. So

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Speaker 2: with all that rain, you're going to want a pretty

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Speaker 2: decent spouting system, aren't you. Well, for over thirty years

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Speaker 2: Continuous Group have been making spouting facia and downpipes right

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand, specifically for our conditions. They are

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Speaker 2: the original continuous spouting company that brought you the first

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Speaker 2: spouting without all of those annoying joints. Man, was it popular?

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Continuous Group, more than three hundred thousand Kiwi

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Speaker 2: homes now find rain way less of a pain. So

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Speaker 2: if you're building a new home, or if your existing

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Speaker 2: spouting just isn't cutting it, I'd suggest you give the

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Speaker 4: Ever do for c Allen Heather.

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Speaker 2: Simon Watts as an accountant by trade and former ID intern,

873
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Speaker 2: he's actually nobody's friend, least of all the kerew we

874
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Speaker 2: farmers burns. So many burns for Simon Watts today anyway,

875
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this with Federated Farmers after

876
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: half past right now, it's eighteen past five. Now the

877
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 2: University of rankings are out and congratulations to Auckland because

878
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 2: it's in the top one hundred. This is the QS

879
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: World Ranking World University Rankings. There are fifteen hundred in there.

880
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: Auckland is sixty five. Otago was one hundred and ninety seven,

881
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: aut bottom of the pack four ten. What's still not bad, though,

882
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Speaker 2: is it. Chris Wheeland is the CEO of University's New Zealand.

883
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Speaker 2: I Chris Hi, how's it going very well? Thank you?

884
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 8: Do you reckon?

885
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: People make decisions based on these rankings?

886
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 16: Look, they do. They are surprisingly important. They basically came

887
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 16: into existence probably fifteen twenty years ago as a great

888
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 16: way of newspapers selling copy by coming up with rankings regimes,

889
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 16: and they've taken on a whole life of their own.

890
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 16: So now they're one of the few signals to students

891
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 16: and even academic staff about where to look to study

892
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 16: or to work.

893
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Speaker 2: I mean, how much do you reckon? It plays a

894
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: role though, because when I was packing whether to go

895
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Speaker 2: to university or I just went to Auckland because I

896
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: lived in Auckland and it was by far and away

897
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: the simplest thing to do. Do you think people do? Actually,

898
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: do people decide based on where they are, where their

899
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: location is, if they want to go down to Otago

900
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: and get absolutely ratted every weekend? How much of the

901
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: ranking factors?

902
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 16: And then for international students, we know that about eighty

903
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Speaker 16: two eighty three percent consider rankings and for seventeen percent

904
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 16: it's one of their top factors.

905
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Well, okay, what about locally.

906
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 16: Locally less of a factor, far more likely to go

907
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 16: to your local university, or go with your friends going,

908
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 16: or go to study that thing that's only available over there.

909
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, or your specialty like medicine. Obviously, Hey, I feel

910
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: like sixty five is pretty good for our population. Or

911
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: am I being a little too rosy here?

912
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 16: Look, it's good. Given the funding that we have per

913
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 16: student is less than half of say, the equivalent in

914
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Speaker 16: the US, and well below countries like Australia or the UK,

915
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 16: we do incredibly well.

916
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm very pleased to hear that, Chris, Thanks so much.

917
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Chris Wheeler, University's New Zealand CEO. By the way, on that,

918
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: because there is ongoing stout between Trump and the universities

919
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: over there in the US, Foreign students who now want

920
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: to study in the US will have to unlock their

921
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: social media profiles because the officials are going to have

922
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: a look at what you've been saying on your Twitter

923
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: and your facy and your Insta and your whats well,

924
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever, all of those TikTok whatever. They're

925
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: going to have a look at it to look for

926
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: any indications of hostility towards the citizens, the culture of

927
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: the government, the institutions, and the founding principles of the

928
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: United States, any advocacy for any aid or support for

929
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: foreign terrorists, any other three to US national security, and

930
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: any support for unlawful anti Semitic harassment or violence, which

931
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: I think actually because it's very popular amongst young people

932
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: nowadays to be very anti Israel and very sort of

933
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, wear the headscarff next scuff, you know, like

934
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: that's just the vibe. I feel like they would get it,

935
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: that might want to take that off the social media

936
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: if they want to go to the US, and actually

937
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: just another reason not to be on the social media

938
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Speaker 2: at all. Now, speaking of Trump, you want to hear

939
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: the weird thing with an completely embarrassing thing that he's done.

940
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: I'll play it to you shortly five point twenty.

941
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Speaker 1: Two informed insight into today's issues. It's hither duplicy, Ellen,

942
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

943
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 17: They'd be Heather.

944
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: Being pro Palestinian is not equivalent to being anti Israel

945
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: and definitely not synonymous with being anti Semitic. Well, no,

946
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: not always, but sometimes And do you really want Trump

947
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: to be and Trump and his officials to be the

948
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: ones who make that judgment call. I wouldn't leave it

949
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: up to them, would you? Twenty five twenty four past

950
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: five other? Now listen next time you or someone else

951
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: you know calls for a new rule to fix something,

952
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: I want you to think of malatonin. Okay, in this country,

953
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: you cannot buy malatonin over the county. You can buy

954
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: it in Australia, you can buy it in the States,

955
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: you can buy it in Singapore, can buy in lots

956
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: of places, but you can't buy it here over the counter.

957
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: And yet people still use it here. They give it

958
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: to their kids, they take it themselves. But the thing

959
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: is they just have to find creative ways to get it.

960
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: They buy it and bulk when they go overseas. Maybe

961
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Speaker 2: they get it shipped in But that's stupid, isn't it now.

962
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: That happened because someone wanted a rule, because someone was worried.

963
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: They were worried that malatonin wasn't safe, They were worried

964
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: about inconsistency, that you couldn't be absolutely sure how much

965
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: malatonin you were getting from gummy to gummy. And the

966
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: thing is it happened because we love rules in this country.

967
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: Every time something happens that we feel we have to control,

968
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: we want a rule. We see men running at each

969
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: other in a backyard, we want a rule to ban

970
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: run at events. We see the sheep farmers struggling, We

971
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: want a rule to force the government to buy wool

972
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: instead of nylon carpets. Decades ago, we saw dairy farmers struggling,

973
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: We wanted a rule restricting the sale of Marjorie. You

974
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: needed a prescription to buy it. Sometimes rules work, like

975
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: telling us to wear seat belts. But sometimes they don't work,

976
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: like when we tried to stop pee and pe related

977
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: crime by banning cold and flu medications that contain pseudoephandrine.

978
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: Did that stop pee?

979
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 13: No?

980
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: It didn't stop pee. Pee is more of a problem

981
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: now than when we banned convictions for meth use and

982
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: possession almost tripled in the decade after that ban. All

983
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: that did was to stop you and I being able

984
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: to get some decent cold and flu relief over the counter.

985
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: We love to moan about rules, but the only reason

986
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: we've got those rules to moan about is because we

987
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: love rules in the first place. They are our go to.

988
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: So next time you want to rule, as the AD says,

989
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: have a hmmm, because it might just be another rule

990
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: like the malatonin rule, which thankfully we are now getting

991
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: rid of.

992
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 4: Heather do for se lay.

993
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: The government is walking back that you tax in our

994
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: burg way. I'll get you across that shortly. We are

995
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: going to talk to federated farmers about that. Okay, But listen,

996
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: So Trump did this thing is really awkward. Today he

997
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: was in the Oval Office and he had the team

998
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: from Juventus, and just to paint you the picture, He's

999
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: sitting at his desk and the team is all gathered

1000
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: behind him, standing in a row, and he turns around

1001
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: and asks them what they think about the trans issue

1002
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: in sport?

1003
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 19: Men playing in women's sports.

1004
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 4: You know who has never heard have you ever had women?

1005
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 21: Could a woman make your team?

1006
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 11: Fellas? Tell me you think didn't give very nice What

1007
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 11: do you think think a woman could make the team?

1008
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 10: General managers?

1009
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 8: Way, I think.

1010
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: We have a very quick women, we do.

1011
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 19: But they should be playing with women, right, you know

1012
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 19: it's what are those things?

1013
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: See they're very diplomatic.

1014
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. You know what I feel like? This

1015
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: is one of those how embarrassing is how awkward for

1016
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: them is they were all standing there and he sort

1017
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: of turns to one side asking and they will look

1018
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: at each other and you can answer that I don't

1019
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: want to get involved in the trans issue in public, No,

1020
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: Joe's I don't want to say it, and then he

1021
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: turns to the other side, just looking for it. Just

1022
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: he just loves He just loves to prove, doesn't he

1023
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: look just just for Uncle Keith at the barbecue and

1024
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Don't raise the issue unless you're absolutely sure

1025
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: that everybody wants to chat about it, because it's just

1026
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: not It's not the kind of thing you just raise casually,

1027
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? It's quite a heavy subject.

1028
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 2: And definitely don't do it in front of the cameras

1029
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: unless you're absolutely sure. Headline's next and then we're on

1030
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: the Utex.

1031
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: Get then let's on it.

1032
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: We can dance.

1033
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: We can dance on that on the iHeart app and

1034
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: in your car on your drive home.

1035
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: It's hither duplicy, Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

1036
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

1037
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: That'd be.

1038
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Andrew has sent a doozy through of stupid rules. You

1039
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: just wait till you hear this one. Also, I might

1040
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: be able to help you out with knowing exactly when

1041
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna die. There's a new little age test to

1042
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: stand by and you will have that hot little information

1043
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: in your hands before six o'clock. Also, we've got the

1044
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: huddle standing by for us, Morris Williamson and Gareth Hughes.

1045
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: The moment right now, it's twenty four away from six.

1046
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: Now tell you what farmers are not happy with, Revenue

1047
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: Minister Simon Watts. Are they? He is the guy responsible

1048
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: for a plan change to the way that fringe benefit

1049
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: tax applies to utes. If he goes through with this,

1050
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: it would cost farmers thousands of dollars every single year.

1051
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: Mark Hooper is Federated Farmer's Transport spokesperson with US.

1052
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 13: Now, Hey Mark, good evening, Heather.

1053
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: Have you heard what the government's just sent through to us.

1054
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 9: I'm pretty much aware of what's been going on. Basically,

1055
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 9: it was a bit of a story that blew up

1056
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 9: post field days when there was a lot of hype

1057
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 9: around buying new utes with commodity price has been up

1058
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 9: and the government government's newly announced investment boost which allowed

1059
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 9: an immediate twenty percent depreciation deductibility on US sets. And

1060
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 9: then in the midst of that, fintech sorry tax advisors

1061
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 9: they sort of said, hang on a minute, whatever you

1062
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 9: just saved on depreciation and new you you could just

1063
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 9: have ended up losing through the proposed changes to the

1064
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 9: FBT rules. So it was a bit of a classic

1065
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 9: case of giving on one hand while taking on the other.

1066
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 9: And not only that, but of course it's a FBT

1067
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 9: is a cost every year, so obviously the optics around

1068
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 9: this we were not looking too good at the time.

1069
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so have you heard what the government's just

1070
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: sent through to us?

1071
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 7: What have they seent through all of this.

1072
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: Debarcle mark over the last few days has gone on

1073
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: about a week now. They have sent us a statement

1074
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: that says, in terms of introducing a new eighty thousand

1075
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: dollars fringe benefit tax threshold on youth, we can rule

1076
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 2: that out. Ird consider a lot of things regularly, but

1077
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: this is something that is not going to get progressed.

1078
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: How good.

1079
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 9: That's a great result, and that was certainly one of

1080
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 9: the issues that we had, whether you know, we looked

1081
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 9: at it from the perspective of what we know actually

1082
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 9: happens on farms. And you know, if you're buying new utes,

1083
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 9: if you want to look at say a seventy series

1084
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 9: land Cruiser, your starting prices around eighty grand, and regardless

1085
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 9: of whether it was one hundred percent work related use

1086
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 9: or not, by going over that threshold, it immediately put

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Speaker 9: you into the one hundred percent payment for FBT criteria.

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Speaker 9: And so that was a considerably ongoing significant expense on

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Speaker 9: that purchase.

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Speaker 2: How long have you guys been going on about this?

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Speaker 9: Well, as I say, it only just blew up really

1092
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 9: post field days, and I think that was I see

1093
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 9: what part of the June.

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00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: On some of these stories. So that's that's Friday? Is

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00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: it Friday last week?

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Speaker 21: So that yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So you've been going on about it since Friday

1098
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: last week, got no traction at all, and then all

1099
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: of a sudden today they do a U turn.

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Speaker 9: Well we've had a little bit of communication with the

1101
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 9: Minister's Office of you know, as I said, we looked

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00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 9: at it from farm perspective. We could see that there

1103
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 9: were some issues with the categories that they had laid out.

1104
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 9: Was really easy for the way that we use farm

1105
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 9: utes for those to be escalated into the higher categories

1106
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 9: hence a significantly greater FBT liability. And so you know,

1107
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 9: once that came out, it was just a case of

1108
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 9: really getting hold of the Minister's office and talking through

1109
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 9: some of these issues. It's great to hear an immediate response.

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00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's brilliant Mark, thank you very much. I'm

1111
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: stoked for you. Mark Hooper, Federated Farmer's Transport spokesperson, the.

1112
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find you.

1113
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: Are one of the comes Morris Williams and Auckland councilor,

1114
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: former National Party minister and Gareth Hugh's director of the

1115
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:45,479
Speaker 2: Well Being Economy Alliance out and former Green MP. High lads.

1116
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: This a little bit of a bit of policy on

1117
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: the hoof, isn't it.

1118
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 16: I look at you.

1119
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 22: I'm one of these sort of old, crusty old buggers

1120
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 22: who've seen so many things come and go. When I

1121
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 22: see certain things announced like coming out of IID and

1122
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 22: I just smile and say this will never stand, will

1123
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 22: never stand. National made such a song and Dann's about

1124
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 22: the yute tax and the campaign up.

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00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: And down and you know what, Yes, I agree with you.

1126
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: But then why is Simon What's doing stuff like this

1127
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: because he instructed them? Why?

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00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 22: Well, look, there's some things in the world I can't explain,

1129
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 22: and that's one of them.

1130
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: Gareth, Gareth, you being from the Green Party, You've always

1131
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: got a kind of slightly cock eyed view of tax.

1132
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: So tell me what you think of it.

1133
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 5: Well, Morris is right.

1134
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 18: I mean National was really at risk of being hoisted

1135
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 18: by their own potade. They made such a big song

1136
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 18: and dance about this previously, but it seems like the

1137
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 18: biggest issue with so many farmers seem to think that

1138
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 18: utes exempt from fringe benefit TEX. So it's a bit

1139
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 18: of a wake up core course for government was always

1140
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 18: going to respond with alacrity on this, and I think

1141
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 18: farmers will be pretty happy with it.

1142
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: Hey, now, what do you make Gareth of Winston Peter's

1143
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: pulling that funding from the cos it's interesting.

1144
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 18: I mean It's terrible timing for the government, with lux

1145
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 18: and literally meeting She in Beijing at the moment. You

1146
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 18: know this is going to dominate the talks, and there's

1147
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 18: a perception that Peters could be trying to talk Peter

1148
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 18: the talks. There's no surprises very much in the American camp. However,

1149
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 18: there's the story that this actually started out earlier this month.

1150
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 18: It's the Cook Island government themselves who have made it public.

1151
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 5: Again, it's bad.

1152
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 18: Timing, bad optics. I don't think it's ideal that New

1153
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 18: Zealand's linking our aid to great power politics. It's clear

1154
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 18: that the Cooks themselves are pretty upset about this, and

1155
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 18: the film feels a little bit colonial to me, New

1156
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 18: Zealand playing great power politics here with our aid budget.

1157
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 2: Okay, Morris, what do you think?

1158
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 5: Well?

1159
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 22: I take the analogy of what happened with my kids

1160
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 22: when they went through teenage years and into their twenties.

1161
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 22: Their attitude was, it's my money, I'll do what I

1162
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 22: want with it, now can you lend me some? And

1163
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 22: that's the same with the Cooks. If they want to

1164
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 22: be independent and go away and negotiate all sorts of

1165
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 22: things with other countries, and not tell us what they're doing,

1166
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 22: which they're supposed to evently in their chart that they si. Well,

1167
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 22: Winston's doing the right thing. He's saying, well that, look,

1168
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 22: we can't stop you where you go, but that doesn't

1169
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 22: mean we have to be the funder of last resort

1170
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 22: for you anymore.

1171
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 5: We can just say no.

1172
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Speaker 22: And so they have to put that under the equation

1173
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 22: of the Cooks think it was worth losing the what

1174
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 22: is nineteen point eight million they're going to lose if

1175
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 22: they think it was worth losing that because they're maybe

1176
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 22: getting phenomenal money back from China, Well good on them.

1177
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Speaker 22: They're free to go and do what they like.

1178
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I tend to agree with Morris on this

1179
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: because I think that we can take a bit of

1180
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: a paternalistic and I feel like that, you know, no

1181
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: disrespect to you, but I feel like you might have

1182
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: been a bit paternalistic there where our attitude towards smaller

1183
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: nations like the Cooks as always oh well, you know,

1184
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: they can kind of behave however they want, and we

1185
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: just have to kind of sit there and suck it

1186
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: up and carry on with the funding. Actually, it takes

1187
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: two to tango, and it doesn't sound like they've been awesome.

1188
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: So isn't it within our rights to pull the money?

1189
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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 18: I think they feel a bit grieved too. I mean,

1191
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 18: the Prime mins is going to come back to China

1192
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 18: presumably signing deals, are doing deals? Are we going to

1193
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 18: be updating the Cock Island governments around that? But you

1194
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 18: know there is a strategic contius in the Pacific. You

1195
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 18: go to any Pacific state, China is investing a huge amount.

1196
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 18: Like that's clear to everyone. I just think, you know,

1197
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 18: if we want to have our strategic counterests bets, serve

1198
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 18: them the Pacific, we're best to use carrots, use our

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00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 18: special relationship, use the people connections, good faith on the stealings.

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 18: You can't make friends by pulling out a stick. And

1201
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 18: I think that's the risk is you know this could

1202
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 18: even push the Cook Islands more intual.

1203
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: Relationships that happened. Do you think that will really happen

1204
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: given that it doesn't What Mark Brown wants doesn't sound

1205
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: like what the people want. And twenty million dollars pails

1206
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: and insignificance when you think about the fact that they

1207
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: have our passports, they have access to the country to

1208
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 2: live and work in, they have our superannuation. Surely that's

1209
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: still a massive carrot there.

1210
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 18: Oh, look, this has to be dealt with, and it

1211
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 18: has to be dealt with well. But if we're doing threats,

1212
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 18: if we're pausing aid, you know, there's a risk of

1213
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 18: permanently damaging relationships. And look, China can afford a lot

1214
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 18: more than New Zealand can. We're best to play to

1215
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 18: us rather than try and be aggressive.

1216
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: Yah.

1217
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 22: Yeah, But if they thumb their nose at us, if

1218
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 22: they thumb their nose a us and so, well, damn

1219
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 22: we're going off and doing something with them and we

1220
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 22: don't care. We're supposed to have alerted you or talked

1221
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 22: it through with you. That's fine, don't wait. Off you

1222
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 22: go a naughty child. Way, you go, do your own thing,

1223
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 22: But don't come calling back to home and saying I

1224
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 22: want some more. They've had two hundred million in the

1225
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 22: last three years, for God's sake from us. That's an

1226
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 22: enormous amount of money they've had. Well, if they don't

1227
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 22: want to thumb their nose at that and say we've

1228
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 22: got a better deal elsewhere, that's fine. But which just

1229
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 22: means we don't have to play their silly game.

1230
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. Come back shortly quarter.

1231
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: Two the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve

1232
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 1: extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

1233
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: Hey, really quickly. A hospital in southern Israel has been

1234
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: hit by an Iranian missilets taking a direct hat. This

1235
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: is a hospital in Beersheba. Not good for Israel to

1236
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: have that happen, as you can well imagine. Also, I'm

1237
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: going to tell you about that age test in just

1238
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: a minute. Right now, we've got the huddle back with

1239
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: us Morris Williamson and Gareth Hughes. Now, Gareth, how would

1240
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: you feel about us getting rid of regional government?

1241
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh?

1242
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 18: I'm not a fan. I think we should be boosting

1243
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 18: local government. We've got one of the most centralized government

1244
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 18: systems in the world. Central government gets about ninety one

1245
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 18: percent of the revenue. Local government gets about nine percent.

1246
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 18: I think that's out of whack. But if he's what

1247
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 18: he's talking about, should we see more amalgamations? Definitely open

1248
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 18: to that. I think we've got way too many councils

1249
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 18: duplicating way too many things.

1250
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: What do you think, Marris?

1251
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: Oh?

1252
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 22: Look absolutely, Look, we've got the Hiranui District Council, the

1253
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 22: Opotocki District Council, so eight thousand ratepayers or something in

1254
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 22: each of them. If you think back a few years

1255
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 22: long before you two were around. But Auckland when I

1256
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 22: was young, had thirty two councils. You know, there was

1257
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 22: the New Market Borough Council, there was the Mount Albert

1258
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 22: Borough Council, the Mount Edenborough Council now Michael Bassett in

1259
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 22: nineteen eighty nine merged them into seven. There was a

1260
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 22: good start and in the right direction, and in twenty

1261
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 22: ten we moved to more than to one. I would

1262
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 22: have thought that what Shane is talking about is let's

1263
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 22: get rid of all of the little fragmentation. And they

1264
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 22: had a reason back then many years ago, because communications

1265
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 22: were appalling. You had to send a letter and it

1266
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 22: had to be delivered. Now they can be online with

1267
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 22: screen showing data, they can be in communications while they're

1268
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 22: on the road talking. I think we've got far, far

1269
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 22: too many local government entities. And the more we did

1270
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 22: some amalgamations right across the board, the whole of the

1271
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 22: south part of Wellington with the wire wrapper and Wellington

1272
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 22: should all be just one counsel.

1273
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 5: In my view.

1274
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean, because Gareth, don't we have too few people

1275
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: really to have the number of councils that we have.

1276
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think that's a genuine question. And you know,

1277
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 18: I live in Wellington and I would support greater amalgamation

1278
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 18: in the region. We've got way too much duplication happening.

1279
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 18: But I wonder what change Jones. You know, I was

1280
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 18: at the event last night where he gave these remarks.

1281
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: He's all talking.

1282
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 18: Oh he's no shrinking violent, that's for sure, and you

1283
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 18: know you could see he was in competition with David

1284
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 18: Semo Garrett to get the headline.

1285
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 2: I said this to the husband this morning and I

1286
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: read it. I said, oh, yeah, but it's from Shane.

1287
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: What have they actually achieved? What is like New Zealand?

1288
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: This is all blah blah, But they actually don't do

1289
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 2: anything when they're in government.

1290
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 7: Do they.

1291
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 18: Well, and look, I'm not Shane's biggest fan, but he

1292
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 18: did talk about the idea of central government sharing some

1293
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 18: more GST revenue with local government. I absolutely support that,

1294
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 18: but they didn't put that in their confidence and agreement

1295
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 18: with the government. You know, they talk about it, they

1296
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 18: haven't achieved it.

1297
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 22: No, and hopefully that is, But if you think about it,

1298
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 22: the exact opposite will still give you the outcome. Instead

1299
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 22: of going and getting rid of the regional councils and

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Speaker 22: leaving a whole lot of tin bot little rotten boroughs,

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Speaker 22: merge them up all across I reckon thirty or forteen

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Speaker 22: councils across the entire country. We're only five million people. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: that's a modest city anywhere else in the world. Our

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Speaker 22: whole country is a lot of city.

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Speaker 2: Auckland has done the amalgamation. But now we've got all

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Speaker 2: the little wards, haven't we with like five people voting

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Speaker 2: for somebody Morris, can't we get rid of all those wards?

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Speaker 2: Just leave you fellers in charge accounts?

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Speaker 22: Well, my ward's bigger. Listen to this, my howick Ward,

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Speaker 22: that I am standing for bigger population than any other

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Speaker 22: city in New Zealand other than Wellington and christ Church.

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Speaker 22: We're bigger than Toweronga, We're bigger than Hamilton, We're bigger

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Speaker 22: than Nelson. Any city you name, howick Ward where it's

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Speaker 22: only two counselors is bigger than them.

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Speaker 2: Jason, Well, that says a lot, doesn't it. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, really appreciated Morris Williamson and garrethuse

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Speaker 2: huddle sitting. I was meant and getting rid of the

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Speaker 2: ward councils. You know those guys you don't even know,

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Speaker 2: you don't even know that they're sitting under the council.

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Speaker 2: It's like five people. The local boards is thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you ants. That's the word. I'm looking for the

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Speaker 2: local boards and need to get rid of them because

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Speaker 2: there's some really interesting people on those local boards drawing

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Speaker 2: a salary from us doing nothing. Nine away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Art Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 2: Listen very quickly. The Prime Minister's press conference has finally

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Speaker 2: finally reached us from China. I feel like that link

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Speaker 2: between US and China we're still using, you know, eighteen

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Speaker 2: hundred technology here, very very clear. What is clear in

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Speaker 2: the I'm not even going to play it to you.

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Speaker 2: The quality is a shocker. I don't know, do you

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Speaker 2: think it's not between two developed countries, Well, you know

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Speaker 2: it's China, spurs are not that developed. But anyway, you know,

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Speaker 2: full of like amazing technology. Anyway, regardless, Primeonise is very

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Speaker 2: very keen to make this an issue about New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and the Cooks, not anything to do with China. And

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Speaker 2: when Ston Peters is doing the same thing, they're making

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Speaker 2: this very clearly a problem with a misunderstanding between us

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Speaker 2: and the Cooks, nothing to do with China. Trying to

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Speaker 2: leave China out of it is probably the smartest way

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Speaker 2: to play that. Actually, now it's fine. Oh five away

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Speaker 2: from six. We've got the carbon sink. Lady with us

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Speaker 2: after six. Remember how I told you about the carbon

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Speaker 2: sink yesterday and I was really excited because it means

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Speaker 2: we can burn another huntly, we can build another one

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Speaker 2: and just go hell for leather. She's going to talk

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Speaker 2: us through it after six o'clock. Now here we go. Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you want to know when you're going to die,

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Speaker 2: or more accurately, how long you've got to live? There

1351
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: is a new study that has just been published today

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: in the European and in Journal of Preventive Cardiology, and

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01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: it outlines a very simple test that you need to

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01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: do and if you can do this test extremely well,

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Speaker 2: you will live for the next decade or so. If

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Speaker 2: you the less well you do it, the more likely

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Speaker 2: you are to die soon. This is for Gramte. This

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: is for people between forty six and seventy five. Now

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Speaker 2: what this Before I tell you what it is, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you what this measures. It doesn't measure

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Speaker 2: anything to do with your cardio like with your aerobic fitness.

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01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: It's about your muscular health. It's about your balance, it's

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Speaker 2: about your flexibility, and about your body composition, and all

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Speaker 2: of this is important for longevity and health. And it

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Speaker 2: basically gives you an indication of whether you're likely to

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Speaker 2: deny of cancer or heart disease or other cardiovascular problems.

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Speaker 2: So what you need to do is you want to

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Speaker 2: clear space in the ground. You want a friend there

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Speaker 2: to help you retrieve you from the floor. If this

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Speaker 2: doesn't go well, you, I will do it as I

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Speaker 2: explain it to you.

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Speaker 21: Oh yeah, okay, here we go.

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Speaker 2: So hold on, I'm gonna just reorient this mic.

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Speaker 21: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So what you want to do is you want to

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Speaker 2: stand up, stand with your feet kind of like hip

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Speaker 2: with the part. Then put one foot in front of

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Speaker 2: the other, sort of cross your legs.

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Speaker 21: I don't do this if you're driving while listening to.

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Speaker 2: It, don't you only if you're at home. Now, sit

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Speaker 2: down without using you do whatever you want with the arms,

1382
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: but sit down without using your arms at all. Right,

1383
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: can you lower yourself down? Hold on here with you? Right,

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01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: so I'm down. If you don't wobble, then you're winning.

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: If you wobble, you're not winning. Now you need to

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Speaker 2: get up without your hands.

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Speaker 23: How'd I do ants I've got leaked? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 23: I would have still. I was actually still on the

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Speaker 23: ground at this point when I tried it before.

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Speaker 2: At least ten years in the candies. I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: kind of tired from that. Should we stick it up

1392
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Speaker 2: on Instagram so people can see how I'm going to

1393
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: stick it up on Instagram.

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Speaker 21: Where you can stand the medical team down. She got

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Speaker 21: to ack up.

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Speaker 2: Good work, and then you can do it. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm dying. Then you can do it later tonight for

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Speaker 2: yourself and see if you've got ten years or so. Hey,

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Speaker 2: how's that? I know who's not going to be able

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Speaker 2: to do it? My husband then again, does have a

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Speaker 2: heart issue, So that's okay anyway, Carbon sink. Next news

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Speaker 2: talks a'd be.

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Speaker 1: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls? And

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy? The big business questions

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Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments, Grow your Wealth, Protect Your Future.

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Speaker 4: US Talk SAT be.

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Speaker 2: Even been coming up in the next hour. Liam dan

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Speaker 2: on the GDP, Sam Dickey on inst on investing with

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Speaker 2: that Middle East conflict going on in end Brady out

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Speaker 2: of the UK for US at seven past six. Now,

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Speaker 2: I told you yesterday about that carbon sinc that they've

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Speaker 2: discovered in Fiordland's native bush. This carbon sinc is sucking

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Speaker 2: in so much more carbon than we originally thought. In fact,

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Speaker 2: it's so much it may be three times as much

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Speaker 2: carbon as US humans in New Zealand creating year. Now

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Speaker 2: the study has been done by NIWA and Biazabukosa is

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Speaker 2: the atmospheric scientist who lid the study. Hibieta, Hello, how

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Speaker 2: sure are you about these numbers?

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Speaker 24: We're quite quite confident in these numbers. We were running

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Speaker 24: tests for years and years now try to challenge our calculations,

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Speaker 24: models in every possible way we could think of, But

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Speaker 24: this sink was always there.

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01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: So does this mean that it really is sucking in?

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Speaker 2: This carbon sink is sucking in three times what us

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Speaker 2: humans in New Zealand are burning.

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Speaker 24: So it's just like carbon is mysteriously somewhere disappearing in

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Speaker 24: this region. But something to be careful about at the

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Speaker 24: moment is that we don't know where that carbon actually goes,

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Speaker 24: if it's a long term carbon, or if it's maybe

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Speaker 24: potentially exported somewhere else. So that's something that we still

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Speaker 24: need to figure out.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's a long term carbon that's going into

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Speaker 2: the trees.

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Speaker 24: Right, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: What's the alternative.

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Speaker 24: Well, there's something also that we call lateral carbon transport.

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Speaker 24: So if you think about these regions down in the

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Speaker 24: Southwest Coast or Fjordland, these are regions with a quite

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Speaker 24: complex topography, quite a bit of rainfall, landslide erosion. So

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Speaker 24: an additional thing that might be happening is that some

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Speaker 24: of this carbon is being transported in the rivers and

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Speaker 24: then out to the ocean, which might then be re

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Speaker 24: emitted back to the atmosphere.

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Speaker 2: But that makes yeah that much.

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Speaker 24: Yes, So we identified that about half of the difference

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Speaker 24: that we see is due to these lateral transports. However,

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Speaker 24: there are uncertainties with these estimates.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so even if it's just half of it that's

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Speaker 2: going down the river, the rest of it is going

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Speaker 2: into the trees, right, which is more than we are

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Speaker 2: creating annually as New Zealanders.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, so there's a specific amount that it seems is

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Speaker 24: being kept somewhere potentially in the land. However, we still

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Speaker 24: haven't identified the exact place or processes that take up

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Speaker 24: this urbon, so that's still work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean that we have a bit of a

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Speaker 2: license to relax about what we're doing in this country

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Speaker 2: and not beat ourselves up so much because actually Fieldland's

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Speaker 2: taking care of it.

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Speaker 24: Well, not really, just because until we know exactly what's

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Speaker 24: the fate of that carbon, we can't really relax, and

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Speaker 24: we shouldn't relax because we still need to work.

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Speaker 2: So I knew you again. I knew you again. I

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Speaker 2: say that how long is it going to take to

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Speaker 2: be absolutely sure?

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Speaker 24: So we have currently a quite comprehensive proposal where we

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Speaker 24: would do additional measurements and modeling and basically bring together

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Speaker 24: everyone and everything to id identify exactly what is happening

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Speaker 24: with that carbon and where does it disappear. But that

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Speaker 24: would take another few years.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, really, how many is a few years?

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Speaker 24: Well, it really depends on when we could start that research.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is it possible that the native bush is just

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Speaker 2: better at capturing carbon than we thought it originally was?

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Speaker 24: There is an explanation yes there as well. And one

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Speaker 24: of the specific things to think about is the fact

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Speaker 24: that some of these forests and trees might be regenerating, yeah,

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Speaker 24: following some disturbance, which means that it can now take

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Speaker 24: up more carbon than what we thought before. That we

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Speaker 24: also discuss in the study. There are also some efforts

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Speaker 24: across New Zealand about pest and browser control, which can

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Speaker 24: further contribute to a healthier, better forest, stronger forest that

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Speaker 24: can take up carbon. And there's also climate change, the

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Speaker 24: overall impact of climate change and increase temperatures and other

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Speaker 24: conditions that impact how these trees and environment.

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Speaker 2: But it relates to us like the native forest is

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Speaker 2: doing a bit of job, we might want to consider

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Speaker 2: planting that instead of pine.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 24: Well, it's very hard to make a conclusion at the

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Speaker 24: moment about you know, native forests versus pine and exotic forests.

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Speaker 24: But I think our main message here is that we

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Speaker 24: should focus quite a bit on maintaining these forests.

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Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I appreciated this Becauso, who is the newer atmospheric scientist. Listen,

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Speaker 2: just a little bit more of an update on what's

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Speaker 2: going on with Israel. And Ran told you about the

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Speaker 2: hospital before. Israel has also attacked and the missile's going

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Speaker 2: in the other direction. Israel's attacked Iran's heavy water reactor

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Speaker 2: in Iraq. There is no radiation danger apparently from this,

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Speaker 2: and it was evacuated before the attack happened. Also, the

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal is reporting that Donald Trump has actually

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Speaker 2: approved attack plans for the US to get involved in

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Speaker 2: the attack on Iran. He is withholding the final order though,

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Speaker 2: so everything is good to go until it's basically in

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01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: a holding pattern until he gives the old go ahead.

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Speaker 2: What he wants to do first to see what Iran does,

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Speaker 2: and he's told Iran obviously he wants total surrender. He

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Speaker 2: wants to see it abandon its nuclear program. Seems reasonably legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal obviously pretty credible. And three sources have

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Speaker 2: told them that this. I meant to tell you this earlier.

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Speaker 2: This is what Andrew had text through about stupid rules Heather.

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Speaker 2: As pediatrists, when we do nail surgeries, we have to

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: get the patient to go and get the sodium hydroxide

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01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 2: solution from a pharmacist and then bring it to us

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01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: so that we can use it in the surgery to

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Speaker 2: prevent nail regrowth. This is because some numpty and met

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: safe thinks so we're not qualified to have it despite

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Speaker 2: being the best practitioners to deal with this problem. That

1521
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: sounds like.

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Speaker 4: A that sounds like a stupid rule.

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: Now what you need to do is go to the

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Regulation. When you go onto the homepage, there's

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: a little thing right at the top. It says make

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01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 2: a tip or something like tip hotline or suggest a

1527
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: tip or something basically like a tell us the stupid

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: red tape that needs to be changed. Andrew, go and

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01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: type that in. I guarantee you they'll change it because

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: David Seymour is just waiting for stupid rules to get

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: rid of. Thirteen past six.

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Speaker 1: Works everything from SMEs to the big corporates. The business

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01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: hour with Heather Dupliclan and mass insurance and investments.

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Speaker 4: Grow your wealth, protect your future. These talks v either.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,839
Speaker 2: Let me get the straight. So climate change is causing

1554
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 2: CO two to be captured more quickly. I know, isn't

1555
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 2: it a problem solving itself? And you know what, I

1556
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,839
Speaker 2: could just sit here and watch it sort of solve itself,

1557
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: can't we That's my I'm taking this new new approach,

1558
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 2: aren't you. I'm just going to kick back and be like,

1559
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: burn that cal it'll solve itself. Seventeen past six, Liam

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Speaker 2: Dan Herold's business editor at Largest with us.

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Speaker 4: A lim Hello, Heather.

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01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: How good was that GDP number?

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Speaker 4: Pretty good?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 25: I mean, you know, the economists had already upped all

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Speaker 25: the forecasts to zero point seven and we got zero

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 25: point eight. But as you know I've mentioned before, I'm

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Speaker 25: a little bit skeptical of GDP numbers. You know, the

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01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 25: one from the last quarter of twenty twenty four got

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01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 25: revised down to zero point five, so you know, there's

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Speaker 25: no guarantees that it's spot on for this one either.

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01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 25: But look, look, we'll take it. It looks like the

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01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 25: recovery was underway and in full swing in that first quarter,

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Speaker 25: so we'll we'll you know, let's let's take that at

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Speaker 25: for starters.

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Speaker 2: Well, and we heard it. I mean, geez, honestly, how

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: many quarters have we had that have been rubbish?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: At least we are headed solidly in the right direction,

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Speaker 2: even if we have to grind it out for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the year. Or am I being a little

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: too polyannash here?

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Speaker 25: Well, I think we are still heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 25: What's what spooked economists in the last week or so

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Speaker 25: is that the sort of high frequency data for the

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 25: second quarter that we're seeing for the that's coming through

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 25: from May around manufacturing and services that went back into

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 25: negative territory card spending and May went down. So all

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 25: this this this first quarter GDP was pretty solid. It

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01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 25: was all pre Donald Trump doing the Liberation Day thing,

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01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 25: and you know, that sort of hit confidence, I guess,

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 25: and it made our KEYPI savers go down and that that.

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Speaker 4: Probably didn't help.

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Speaker 3: And then we've we've you know, we've.

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Speaker 25: Also seen that you know, not not great stuff from

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Speaker 25: the housing market, which we know is a sort of

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 25: a bit of a driver of a wealth effect, particularly

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01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 25: in the big cities in Auckland. So consumers not feeling

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 25: hugely confident right now. So so yeah, the sort of

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Speaker 25: mixed feelings, but you know it is heading the right

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01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 25: and you know that there's a feeling that well for

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Speaker 25: starters that the Reserve Bank will probably pause in July

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01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 25: and just wait and see and won't give us another

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Speaker 25: cut just in case they start to get ahead of themselves.

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Speaker 2: Of course not why would they want to do anything

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Speaker 2: to help the economy, Liam, thanks very much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Liam Dann, the Herald's Business editor at large. Hey, a

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Speaker 2: bit of a tough day by the way for km

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Speaker 2: D brands on the INSIDEX the shares were down. Last

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Speaker 2: time I checked, they were down five percent and this

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: is after they released a week in an expected outlook.

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Speaker 2: Problem for them has been it's been two warm, two

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 2: warm here, two warm, especially in Australia, and so as

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 2: a result, Catman Do sales are down six point four

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: percent because nobody needs, you know, all of that insulation

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01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: around you. So, as a result, the guidance for full

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Speaker 2: year epit dart between fifteen and twenty five million bucks.

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Speaker 2: That is well below the consensus expectation of thirty thirty

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Speaker 2: nine million, and so the shares wore at six twenty.

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Speaker 1: The Rural Report with MSD Animal Health Home of Maltine

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Speaker 1: ns Head's leading five and one.

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Speaker 2: Vaccine right twenty three with me now as Jamie Mackay,

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Speaker 2: Host of the Country. Hello Jamie, hello here.

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Speaker 7: Did we get to the bottom of the after shaved headaches?

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you know what we did? I found a

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: hold on what was it? There were two ingredients in

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01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: your perfume. It was one was eleavender smell and.

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 7: One sorry shaving.

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Speaker 2: There's eleven to smell. It's like Lena lul It's called

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01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: or something like that. And then there's a citrus note

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01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: which is like Lemuel or something like that. And those

1632
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: of your little migraine triggers right there. So it's not

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:33,480
Speaker 2: your fault, Jamie.

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 10: Oh, thank you. You've just I've just wasted a bottle

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 10: of Amani Stronger with you after you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if your wife likes it, that's more important. If

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01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: she doesn't get a headache from that, but just from

1638
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,520
Speaker 2: your general carping, then you're okay.

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 13: Hey, listen, I think it is the latest.

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01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: I want to know what's going on here with this

1641
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: this ute tax I think the thing is I think

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: the problem here may be Simon Watt's actually who who it's?

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: This is not the first time that he's actually got

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: on the tits of the farmers, is it.

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 10: No, he's a bit accident prone. Him and the other

1646
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 10: bloke what's the other guy's name, the mental health ministeroy,

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01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 10: He seems to do sy.

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 7: The pair of them.

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01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 10: Seemed to be a wee bit accident prone and to

1650
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 10: be fair enough, and I'd say this often repeating myself.

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 10: But you know, the current government is about as farmer

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 10: friendly as you get, and Federated Farmers, who were doing

1653
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 10: a really good job being attack dogs at the moment,

1654
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 10: picked up on this really quickly earlier in the week,

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 10: I think it was Tuesday when they kind of had

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01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 10: the ute tax two point zero and instead of red

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 10: they had it and blue and they were dead right.

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01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 10: Some hair brain scheme somewhere suggesting that farmers should pay

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01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 10: some a ridiculous amount of FBT on their utes.

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01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 7: And farmers are no different than anyone else.

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,879
Speaker 10: If you're using your ute for a lot of private motoring,

1662
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 10: well you've got to stick to the rules and pay

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01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 10: your FBT. But the reality for most farmers when they're

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 10: driving the high Lucks or the Ranger around, nearly all

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 10: of it or a good proportion of it is a

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 10: business use. So the FBT component should be very, very small.

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01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 10: And someone has obviously realized that in the Simon Watts department.

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01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. Tell me really quickly about this, chap.

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 2: Gordon Stevenson, what's he want?

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Speaker 7: Well, well, he's I spoke to him today.

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Speaker 10: He was the big winner at the Balance Farm Environment

1672
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 10: towards he took out the South Taranaki Farmer just east

1673
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 10: of Stratford. There he took out what is the title.

1674
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 10: Let me get this right. He's the twenty twenty five

1675
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 10: National Ambassador for Sustainable Farming and Growing.

1676
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 7: But I never knew the blowcare.

1677
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 10: He's a mate of a mate and everyone knows everyone

1678
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 10: in Taranaki. But I chatted to him on the show today.

1679
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 10: Most impressive. Fifty five years of age, which is quite

1680
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 10: old to get that prize. But as you said, he's

1681
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 10: well down the sustainability trip. This guy has got fingers

1682
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,879
Speaker 10: in so many pies and he's such a good all rounder,

1683
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 10: great communicator, great with the community'd been involved in everything.

1684
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 10: But wait for this, Heather. I chatted to him just

1685
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 10: before he jumped on a plane to go to Mongolia

1686
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 10: to drive a dirt bike ride a dirt bike across

1687
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 10: the Gobi Desert.

1688
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 7: So he's a bit of a go getter. Keep your

1689
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 7: eye out for him.

1690
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Jamie, appreciate it. Jamie mckaye, host of the Country.

1691
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: By the way, I got it wrong, his name is

1692
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: Brenda Natural and he won the Gordon Stephenson Trophy.

1693
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 4: Ever Dupless the La.

1694
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: So here's a little bit of show Biz News to UK.

1695
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,759
Speaker 2: So Bruce Springsteen legend. They're finally making a movie about him.

1696
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: The weird thing is it features somebody who you don't

1697
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: think looks anything like Bruce Springsteen. Jeremy Allen White, you know,

1698
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 2: the one ratty looking chap from the Bear.

1699
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 26: Excuse what I want you to understand. This is not

1700
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 26: about Hi, do one of us? This is not about

1701
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 26: the Churts. This is about Bruce Springsteen.

1702
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: The story the movie is going to be about the

1703
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: effort that Bruce Springsteen goes to to make his sixth album, Nebraska.

1704
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: He's fighting the record label. He's trying to make the

1705
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: album as stripped back as he wants to and they

1706
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: don't want him to and blah blah blah. Anyway, there's

1707
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: Jeremy Strong in it, who's the bad son from Succession,

1708
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 2: you know about the annoying son, the oldest one who's annoying.

1709
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: And then there's Paul Walter Hauser from Severance. But here's

1710
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 2: the thing. If you're thinking that Jeremy Allen White cannot

1711
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 2: look like Bruce Springsteen because he's a scrawny, little, ratty

1712
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: looking chap and Bruce Springsteen is hulky and hot go

1713
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 2: and have a look at it. They actually make on

1714
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: certain angles. Absolute just yep, you're gonna enjoy. Oh, you're

1715
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: gonna enjoy the movie if you like a bit of

1716
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: Bruce Sam Dickie's with us. Next, we're going to talk

1717
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: through what you should be doing as an investor with

1718
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: the Saran Israel conflict. Going on headlines.

1719
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 4: Next crouching the numbers and getting the results.

1720
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: It's Heather due for ce Ellen with the Business Hour

1721
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: and mas Insurance and Invents Smiths, Grow your wealth, protect

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Speaker 1: your future.

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Speaker 4: These talks that'd be.

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Speaker 8: Our machine.

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Speaker 2: I've got any Brady with us out of the UK

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01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: and ten minutes time should mention and it does be mentioning.

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01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: There is a big reset underway with coyinga order. Today

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: they have announced they're going to halt hundreds of developments

1729
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 2: basically because these things are in the wrong place or

1730
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: they don't stack up financially. Two hundred and twelve of

1731
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: the developments are gone. That's nearly three and a half

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01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: thousand houses. Are they going to go ahead with two

1733
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four developments? I mean, you add those

1734
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: numbers together just shows you how much they were doing

1735
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: a two hundred and fifty four developments going together. That's

1736
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: eighteen hundred new houses. They are also going to sell

1737
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: off twenty percent of the vacant land that they own,

1738
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: that's thirty six hectares. This is to refocus coying your

1739
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 2: order as a landlord and not a developer. Quite a welcome,

1740
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: I think, step change if you've been following how badly

1741
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 2: they've been doing their developments lately. It's twenty four away

1742
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 2: from seven. Now we've moved from tariff headline shockers and

1743
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: then we've moved sadly into geopolitical head line shockers. How

1744
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: are global investors thinking about this that thus far? How

1745
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: can they navigate this uncertainty? We've got Sam Dickey from

1746
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 2: Fisher Funds with us to explain this. Hey Sam here,

1747
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: that's it going very well, thank you. So we're a

1748
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: week into this thing now between Israel and Iran. How

1749
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: do you see the global investors thinking about things? How

1750
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: are the asset markets and the equities and bonds and

1751
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: commodities and stuff responding to this?

1752
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 27: Yes, it's always awkward talking about a war or real

1753
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 27: human tragedy through the lens of asset markets, and sadly

1754
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 27: geopolitical risk is something that you and I too regularly

1755
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 27: talk about. So if we look at equity markets, currencies,

1756
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 27: and commodity prices since the attacks, the local stock market

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01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 27: of Tel Aviv, it fell initially, but it's now actually

1758
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 27: up two percent since then. The Iranian stock market is

1759
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 27: hard to get a beat on as it's sanctioned by Bloomberg,

1760
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 27: but it's a little weaker.

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Speaker 13: Globally, equities have been very resilient.

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01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 27: The only interesting thing I call out there is while

1763
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 27: US Ozzie and New Zealand markets are near flat, Europe

1764
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 27: is a decent amount weaker because it's more exposed to

1765
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 27: an oil price shop as it relies more heavily on

1766
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 27: imported oil, and it's simply closer to the situation and

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01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 27: oil is probably.

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 13: Worth thirty seconds.

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 27: It's still up fifteen percent from this time last week,

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01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 27: so it hasn't calmed down, and that's because it ran

1771
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 27: itself was five percent of global oil exports, which is meaningful,

1772
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 27: especially when you considered that the oil market is always

1773
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 27: one percent either side of being in balance. And then

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01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 27: of course people are pricing in a small probability that

1775
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 27: the conflict escalates in the Middle East, accounts for fifty

1776
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 27: percent of global oil exports.

1777
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Speaker 2: SAM In the past, when we've had similar situations like this,

1778
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: how have the markets responded?

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Speaker 27: Yes, So you and I talked in February twenty twenty

1780
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 27: two when Russia invaded Ukraine, and we talked in October

1781
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 27: twenty twenty three when Harmus attacked Israel and the market

1782
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 27: did not behave the way everyone thought it would back then.

1783
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 27: So with Ukraine, the main impact was expected to be

1784
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 27: European gas prices or energy prices, because remember europe gas

1785
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 27: prices face the perfect storm of the threat of Russian

1786
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 27: supplies being cut off and a lack of alternatives. However,

1787
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 27: after an initial spike, European gas prices fell eighty percent

1788
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 27: from their peaks, driven by excess supply of a demand. Equally,

1789
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 27: after the Harmless attacks, oil prices did rise ten percent initially,

1790
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 27: but a month or two later they were much lower.

1791
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 27: So the pointers markets typically overreact in the short term,

1792
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 27: but normalizing the medium term. And when it comes to commodities,

1793
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 27: there's that famous saying that the best cure for high

1794
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 27: commodity prices is high commodity prices. In other words, oil

1795
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 27: spikes higher at the margin that will slow demand and

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01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 27: at the margin that'll encourage a marginal barrel of oil

1797
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 27: into the market.

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01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, and so what does this all mean for investors?

1799
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 27: Then it just really hard to You shouldn't construct your

1800
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 27: long term portfolio based around these painful events.

1801
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 13: It's they're really hard to predict.

1802
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 27: And if we zoom out, what drives equity markets over

1803
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 27: the medium term is corporate earnings growth and economic growth

1804
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 27: which drives corporate growth is still fairly solid, as you

1805
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 27: and I have been discussing the last few weeks, and

1806
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 27: Power said overnight, the US jobs market is still robust.

1807
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 13: But the final point I'll make here, and.

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 27: You and I have been discussing this for a couple

1809
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 27: of weeks, is the twenty two percent bounce in the

1810
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 27: US equity market the last few weeks means the risks

1811
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 27: are now a little bit more balanced.

1812
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: From here, Aunte Josh, Hey, thank you very much. Sam,

1813
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: appreciate and enjoy your long weekend. That Sam Dickie a Fisher.

1814
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 4: Funds Heather Duplusyl on the.

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01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: Israel Iran conflict. The thing is spilled over into the

1816
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: internet now, which actually, to be honest, is just what

1817
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: happens now in modern warfare, isn't it. So There's been

1818
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: a cyber attack against a major Iranian bank. A pro

1819
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,440
Speaker 2: Israel hacking group has claimed responsibility for that. There's reportedly

1820
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,440
Speaker 2: been a full scale cyber attack on Iran's critical infrastructure.

1821
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: Iran news media are blaming Israel for that. That was

1822
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Then on Wednesday, which is yesterday, there was

1823
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: an attack on an Iranian crypto exchange. The pro Israel

1824
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: hack has claimed that one as well. There are claims

1825
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: that Israel. Iran rather has endured more than six and

1826
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred distributed denial of service attacks DEDOS attacks over

1827
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 2: the last over the past three days, and as a result,

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01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 2: Iran has basically implemented temporary internet restrictions just to be

1829
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: able to cope with all this. There's like so much

1830
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: internet traffic they've had to restrict what people have been

1831
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: able to do. So the experience for the average Iranian

1832
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: is they're trying to get on the internet that they

1833
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 2: are having real trouble getting on. Their VPNs aren't working,

1834
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: their banking services are not working properly, and it's hard

1835
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: to know whether that is because the Israelis are doing

1836
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: things or because the Iranians are restricting the access in

1837
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 2: order to cope with what the Israelis are doing. Now

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01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's trip to China my very very cool.

1839
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: ZESPRI signed an agreement to try to double experts to China.

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01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: That's very cool. The other thing I think is really

1841
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: cool is this win that we've got with the direct

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01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: flights that are going to be going to Buenosardes again.

1843
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 2: So I feel like this is something that Wayne Brown

1844
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 2: was pretty keen on for a while there. I don't

1845
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: know that he necessarily wanted to go to Argentina. Maybe

1846
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: he wanted to go to Chile, but either way, you

1847
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 2: wanted to fly basically China Auckland and then you know,

1848
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: have US as as a little bit of a destination

1849
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 2: just away point, and then off you go to South America.

1850
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: China Eastern Airlines has announced they're going to be flying

1851
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: two flights a week Shanghai to Auckland, stop in Auckland,

1852
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: then onwards to Buenos Aares in Argentina. This is pretty

1853
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: much almost there, but the Argentina Argentinians need to just

1854
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: clear some regulatory hurdles in order to make this happen.

1855
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: If this does happen, if this does happen. It is

1856
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: fantastic because we need to go more to Argentina. If

1857
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: you haven't been to Argentina, it's you probably not have

1858
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: thought to put this on your bucket list, but you

1859
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: should put this on your bucket list. I went there

1860
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: accidentally a few years ago. When I say accidentally, it

1861
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: was I was I was young, in carefree. You know,

1862
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 2: had lots of you know, expendable what do you call

1863
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: that when you can just spend it?

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01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 21: Disposable?

1865
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 2: Thank you, that's the word. Late in the day, late

1866
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: in the week, it's a Friday, you know, just lots

1867
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 2: of disposable income, disposable income, lots of that, lots of that,

1868
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 2: not a lot of English. I had a lot of time,

1869
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: I had a lot of money. I was having a

1870
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: great time, and we didn't know where to go. We

1871
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,560
Speaker 2: were planning to go to the States, and then I

1872
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 2: passport got lost in a renovation and we couldn't do that,

1873
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 2: and so the easiest thing to do was and that

1874
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 2: had the visa in it. So as a result, we'd

1875
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 2: just be like, I get a new passport, white, wish

1876
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 2: we go, Let's go to Argentina. So we went to Argentina.

1877
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely the best trip I've ever done. Had such a

1878
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: wonderful time for a start. Great for us, not great

1879
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 2: for them. The currency, the exchange rate is just out

1880
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,520
Speaker 2: the gate. Good for us. You can go to Argentina.

1881
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 2: You can go to some of the best restaurants in

1882
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: the world and it will cost you maybe one hundred

1883
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: bucks for two people. If that like it is, this

1884
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: is this is the kind of meal that you would

1885
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: pay multiple hundreds of dollars for in New Zealand. You

1886
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: can go there for super cheap drink, fantastic wine. They're

1887
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 2: really good on the red wine. Have fantastic steaks. You

1888
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: think a South African can do a steak, you need

1889
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: to try a steak done by an Argentinian. And that's

1890
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: not to mention the scenery. The Aguazu falls on the

1891
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: border there between Brazil and Argentina. Just wow, beautiful. And

1892
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: of course she can live like a king. You can

1893
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 2: stay in the best hotel because it's so cheap. So anyway,

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01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for everybody who's going to be able

1895
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 2: to go to Buenosaridre's obviously not me. I have babies now,

1896
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 2: but in time I will join. I'll see you there.

1897
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 2: Seventeen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

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01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: on the business now with Heather Duplicy Ellen and Maya's

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01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,879
Speaker 1: insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future these talks.

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01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: Fourteen away from seven. Indo Brady is our UK correspondent. Heyinda, Hey, Heather,

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01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 2: Great again. What's this emergency meeting about? Ree Israel?

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 17: So Keir Starmer is weighing up his options really and

1904
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 17: he likes to be organized. So I think what he's

1905
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 17: expecting is a phone call from Donald Trump asking permission

1906
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 17: to use a joint UK US air base in the

1907
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 17: Chagos Islands called Diego Garcia. That is where the biggest

1908
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 17: aircraft the United States have will take off from. And

1909
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 17: if they are going to u a bunker buster bomb

1910
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 17: to wipe out these nuclear facilities that the Iranians have

1911
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 17: in a place called four to do, that's where the

1912
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 17: aircraft will have to take off from. So Starmer is

1913
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 17: getting organized. Out of the blue. He called this emergency

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01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 17: meeting yesterday afternoon, a couple of hours long. They call

1915
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 17: it cobra normally it means there's like a domestic threat

1916
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 17: or incident and they go into it all sounds very dramatic.

1917
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 17: Cobra Cabinet office briefing room A. That's how anodyne it

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01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 17: actually is. So Starmer went in there and he had

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01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 17: his defense and security people with him. They're weighing up options,

1920
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 17: and I guess as well, you know, there could also

1921
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 17: be the feasibility of perhaps the Americans asking for refueling

1922
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 17: options at raf A criterion Cyprus. So he's quite adamant.

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01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 17: I think that the Americans are going to get involved

1924
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 17: and they may ask for some British support.

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01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so if you believe the Wall Street Journal,

1926
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: and I have no reason not to, then Donald Trump

1927
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 2: has already approved the plan. It just needs his final

1928
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: go ahead. In which case is Starmer just doing this

1929
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 2: on the in case or are they actually getting all

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01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 2: their ducks in a row and then they're gonna pullpen.

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Speaker 17: Now I think Starmer hasn't been told anything in advance.

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Speaker 17: That much was clear. They went to the G seven,

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Speaker 17: and everything that has happened subsequently I think has blindsided Europe.

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Speaker 17: So all of the people I've spoken to this week

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Speaker 17: on my TV show, no European leaders were informed whatsoever.

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Speaker 17: They've been completely taken out of the loop. And everything

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Speaker 17: that's happening with Israel and America. Nobody in Europe has

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Speaker 17: a heads up. So Starmer, as much as he's probably

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Speaker 17: the only person in Europe that has any influence or

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Speaker 17: that Trump would even listen to, Starmer knew nothing.

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Speaker 2: Why has Europe been taken out of the loop.

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Speaker 17: I think in recent weeks the relationship with Israel, certainly

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Speaker 17: in the UK, has deteriorated. Starmer decided to say, sanctioned

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Speaker 17: two very senior Israeli ministers over appalling comments they made

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Speaker 17: about the people in Gaza. So Smodrich and Ben Gevere

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Speaker 17: have been sanctioned by the UK government. That did not

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Speaker 17: go down well in Tel Aviv, did not go down

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Speaker 17: well with Net and Yahoo, and you know, the people

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Speaker 17: were saying that the UK is now anti Semitic, you know,

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Speaker 17: the usual rhetoric we get from Israel every single time

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Speaker 17: something happens that they don't like Starmar. It took him

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Speaker 17: a long long time to sanction these two guys, but

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Speaker 17: he did it, and I think that has really upset

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Speaker 17: the Israeli government. So you know, the UK has backed

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Speaker 17: Israel to the hilt for decades and now it's no

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Speaker 17: longer considered to be a reliable ally.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Hey this body that's been found in the

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Speaker 2: London explosion. Hell is a body in the London explosion

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Speaker 2: also stabbed. This looks Dodgies all hell, doesn't it?

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Speaker 17: Yes, it does. And a man in his forties has

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Speaker 17: now been arrested on suspicion of murder. So the emergency

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Speaker 17: services turned up to what they thought was simply a

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Speaker 17: terrible gas explosion. They went into the rubble and they

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Speaker 17: found the body of a woman in her forties, a

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Speaker 17: married woman with children in her forties. Closer inspection of

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Speaker 17: that body and they realized that it was not as

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Speaker 17: straightforward as what they initially turned up to expecting she

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Speaker 17: had been stabbed. And the really appalling irony and all

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Speaker 17: of this. It's such a tragedy. The lady had been

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Speaker 17: working helping women who are victims of domestic violence, and

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Speaker 17: it would now appear that the man arrested was known

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Speaker 17: to her and that she herself has become a victim

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Speaker 17: of domestic file jes.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty said, Inda. Thank you, I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 8: MT.

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Speaker 2: Look after yourself. Enjoy that heat. In the Brady UK correspondence,

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Speaker 2: Suffering through difficult temperatures in the UK like twenty six

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Speaker 2: degrees ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the hithertoples see Alan Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: Either on Argentina the president there is a libertarian that

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Speaker 2: makes David cem Will seem meek and unprincipled. That's right, actually, Scott,

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Speaker 2: thank you for pointing that out. You could go there

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Speaker 2: and see proper libertarianism in action six away from seven. Now, okay,

1988
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware of this, but there

1989
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Speaker 2: is actually a reasonable borders dispute going on between Cambodia

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Speaker 2: and Thailand that has just escalated in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of days to Cambodia banning fruit imports and soap operas

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Speaker 2: from Thailand. Now, I don't know if you know anything

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Speaker 2: about Thailand, but Thailand does a great soap opera. So

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Speaker 2: if Cambodia is cutting off the soap operas, it means

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Speaker 2: they really are feeling the thing. Anyway, what's happened is

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Speaker 2: the thing has been going on for ages. Thailand as

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Speaker 2: imposed some border restrictions. Then Cambodi band thaie films from

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Speaker 2: TV and cinemas. They closed a border checkpoint, they cut

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Speaker 2: the internet from Thailand some of the bandwidth, and then

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Speaker 2: both countries shortened the visa shortened the visa stays for

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Speaker 2: each other's citizens. And then it got to the fruit

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Speaker 2: in the soap operas. And that's where we're at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So if you think that the Canadians and the Americans

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Speaker 2: are having a bit of a spat, you ain't seen

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Speaker 2: nothing yet. I have a look at Southeast Asia that's interesting. Now.

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Speaker 2: I know you're wonder I haven't admitted this to you,

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Speaker 2: but I'm reading Jasinda's memoir. Well, because I spent sixty

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Speaker 2: dollars on it, I have to read it, like. I

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Speaker 2: can't just buy it and not read it and just

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Speaker 2: put it there like. And I'm also not one of

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Speaker 2: those people who just like puts a book on the

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Speaker 2: bookshelf and to show off I read the thing. So

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Speaker 2: I've been reading the book and it's actually not that bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm quite enjoying it. I am enjoying the book I've

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Speaker 2: there's so much and we will talk about this when

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Speaker 2: I'm finished with the book. But bless her mum, honestly

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Speaker 2: just had must have had. I just feel for her.

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Speaker 2: Mum had a difficult, difficult time with just being a

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Speaker 2: mum and mutapata. Anyway, you're wondering how the book I

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Speaker 2: know you're wondering how the book is doing. The book

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Speaker 2: has made number three on the New York Times best

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Speaker 2: Sellers list. Now the producers have are forcing me to

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Speaker 2: clarify that it's not the actual best sellers list. It's

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Speaker 2: the sub list, the nonfiction list brackets combined print and ebooks,

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Speaker 2: so it's like a sublist of a sublist, right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So that's where she hit number three. That was the

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Speaker 2: first week. She has slid somewhat in the second week

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Speaker 2: she's number fifteen. But she can recover because at the

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Speaker 2: top of the list at the moment is of Bessel

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Speaker 2: fonder Kok, who is number one and has been on

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Speaker 2: this list for two hundred and forty seven weeks. So

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Speaker 2: a recovery is possible.

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Speaker 21: Answer, welcome to the top, just center.

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Speaker 23: She's going to stay there for a while, probably cord

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Speaker 23: It or Mali By Marlon Williams to play us out tonight.

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Speaker 23: Marlon Williams will be performing at Spark Arena on Saturday

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Speaker 23: in Auckland.

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Speaker 21: If yeah, there are.

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Speaker 23: Still tickets available on ticket Master, and as I understand it,

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Speaker 23: if you buy a ticket now, you may end up

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Speaker 23: sitting next to one hither do for Salan and the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Have I not just been singing this all week long?

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Speaker 2: Get out of.

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Speaker 8: He ha ha ha.

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Speaker 23: See wouldn't you want to say next to that? That

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Speaker 23: must sounds like a great choice.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna jam along to it?

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Speaker 2: Shall I tell the story about Eggy. The husband texts

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Speaker 2: me this evening. He said, what's going on? Iggy just

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Speaker 2: said to me, I'm not his father. Marlon william says,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love the man's music, but I do

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Speaker 2: not have that feeling for Marlon Williams. However, obviously my

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Speaker 2: son things I do. So I'm gonna have to dial

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Speaker 2: that music back. But Mummy's gonna have a wonderful time

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Speaker 2: with Marlon on Saturday night. Marlon just doesn't know that yet.

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Speaker 2: MANA have a lovely weekend and we'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 8: Us till zibby.

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