1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Sat B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:15,173 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 3 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:21,053 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. 4 00:00:21,253 --> 00:00:25,853 Speaker 2: Take another pat, It's rick it is out, the test 5 00:00:25,973 --> 00:00:32,853 Speaker 2: is over. Goodness, smoke, beaut it is out here he goes. 6 00:00:32,933 --> 00:00:34,333 Speaker 3: This delivery has in the. 7 00:00:34,453 --> 00:00:35,373 Speaker 4: Uses to Bowl. 8 00:00:37,613 --> 00:00:41,013 Speaker 1: On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Coney, 9 00:00:41,293 --> 00:00:45,213 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks head b at iHeart Radio. 10 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:52,133 Speaker 5: Hello, aggressively on the front foot again. What's been happening 11 00:00:52,293 --> 00:00:56,173 Speaker 5: in the War of cricket. But below in the twenty 12 00:00:56,253 --> 00:00:58,453 Speaker 5: side that the Zelo game to take sis in Babee 13 00:00:58,693 --> 00:01:03,933 Speaker 5: Conway sees Jamison not needed. Ferguson is looking after his 14 00:01:04,053 --> 00:01:08,533 Speaker 5: bowling loads. Our white Ferns Women's eighty on their most 15 00:01:08,573 --> 00:01:12,013 Speaker 5: important assignment for some time. The West and his batsmen 16 00:01:12,093 --> 00:01:15,133 Speaker 5: are able to cope with the Ossie attack. Arch not 17 00:01:15,213 --> 00:01:18,893 Speaker 5: needed by England. Don't know about Bombra, We'll find that. 18 00:01:18,893 --> 00:01:19,733 Speaker 3: Out in due course. 19 00:01:20,253 --> 00:01:24,733 Speaker 5: The County Championship in the UK enjoying the Indian summer 20 00:01:24,773 --> 00:01:27,613 Speaker 5: and the man who's enjoying it with them as Jeremy Coney, 21 00:01:27,653 --> 00:01:31,413 Speaker 5: and he's been watching cricket play where I think they 22 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:34,413 Speaker 5: give you a run every. 23 00:01:34,173 --> 00:01:36,573 Speaker 3: Time you take a breath. 24 00:01:37,493 --> 00:01:41,533 Speaker 5: At the Oval, Surrey managed a mere eight hundred and 25 00:01:41,573 --> 00:01:44,333 Speaker 5: twenty for nine, their highest county score. 26 00:01:44,413 --> 00:01:47,293 Speaker 3: I think Jerry Durman reply, three forty three. 27 00:01:47,413 --> 00:01:50,573 Speaker 5: They're pore seventy seven behind. But there's other games as well. 28 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:54,093 Speaker 5: North Ends six twenty four, Worcestershire struggling in the second 29 00:01:54,133 --> 00:01:57,413 Speaker 5: division sixty seventy nine for seven, Middle six five thirty four, 30 00:01:57,453 --> 00:01:58,373 Speaker 5: and on it goes. 31 00:01:58,573 --> 00:01:59,693 Speaker 3: What is going on? 32 00:02:01,773 --> 00:02:07,373 Speaker 6: I I hope you can hear me from this distance. Look, yes, 33 00:02:07,813 --> 00:02:10,373 Speaker 6: it's it's one of the four rounds. 34 00:02:10,373 --> 00:02:11,653 Speaker 4: That's actually I think round. 35 00:02:11,573 --> 00:02:16,933 Speaker 6: Two that the powers that be over in England have 36 00:02:17,053 --> 00:02:19,693 Speaker 6: decided that they're going to have an experiment where they 37 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:26,373 Speaker 6: use the kooker barter ball and it's really for bowlers 38 00:02:27,013 --> 00:02:31,333 Speaker 6: to try and develop there and upskill themselves so that 39 00:02:31,413 --> 00:02:36,733 Speaker 6: they have a chance to bowl reverse swing and they 40 00:02:36,813 --> 00:02:39,773 Speaker 6: also have a chance to use spin bowling a lot more. 41 00:02:40,653 --> 00:02:43,773 Speaker 6: Presumably when they go down into the Southern Hemisphere and 42 00:02:43,813 --> 00:02:47,573 Speaker 6: play against Australia, they are obsessed with Australia, of course, 43 00:02:49,293 --> 00:02:54,213 Speaker 6: and unfortunately it has left all the coaches and all 44 00:02:54,253 --> 00:02:57,493 Speaker 6: the players that are actually currently playing behind. They just 45 00:02:57,573 --> 00:03:00,533 Speaker 6: can't stand it and I can understand when I looked 46 00:03:00,533 --> 00:03:04,733 Speaker 6: at this game of eight twenty eight twenty once, I mean, 47 00:03:04,773 --> 00:03:08,773 Speaker 6: at what point do you stop? They did score them 48 00:03:08,813 --> 00:03:12,533 Speaker 6: at a decent clip over five runs and over. That's 49 00:03:12,613 --> 00:03:15,013 Speaker 6: quite that's not a bad effort. Over one hundred and 50 00:03:15,053 --> 00:03:23,133 Speaker 6: sixty overs. Sibbys our mate Dom Sibbys sibly remember him 51 00:03:23,653 --> 00:03:29,533 Speaker 6: three hundred and five and he actually between one hundred 52 00:03:29,573 --> 00:03:31,773 Speaker 6: and one hundred and fifty got there and forty balls 53 00:03:32,013 --> 00:03:35,293 Speaker 6: so he could show. And he opens for T twenty 54 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:40,613 Speaker 6: for Surrey so he can play some shots, but prefers 55 00:03:40,653 --> 00:03:40,933 Speaker 6: not to. 56 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:44,933 Speaker 4: And then Sam Curran came up and batted four. He 57 00:03:44,973 --> 00:03:45,533 Speaker 4: got one hundred. 58 00:03:45,573 --> 00:03:48,653 Speaker 6: He batted nicely, actually, then Lawrence came out and batted 59 00:03:48,693 --> 00:03:52,013 Speaker 6: even better, one hundred and seventy of about one hundred 60 00:03:52,053 --> 00:03:54,573 Speaker 6: and forty balls, and then Will Jacks. 61 00:03:54,253 --> 00:03:55,693 Speaker 4: Finished it off with another hundred. 62 00:03:57,133 --> 00:03:58,853 Speaker 3: So they're all doing it. 63 00:03:58,973 --> 00:04:02,533 Speaker 6: I mean, heaven's above eight twenty. He had to get 64 00:04:02,973 --> 00:04:06,293 Speaker 6: six hundred and seventy one to avoid the follow on. 65 00:04:09,013 --> 00:04:12,853 Speaker 4: So at a four day game, oh, unbelievable. 66 00:04:13,093 --> 00:04:16,133 Speaker 6: Anyway, we're up to day four now and we'll just 67 00:04:16,133 --> 00:04:16,933 Speaker 6: see what happens. 68 00:04:17,653 --> 00:04:20,213 Speaker 4: What's the other thing about it is of course. 69 00:04:21,413 --> 00:04:25,333 Speaker 6: The pitchers are not doing what they're supposed to do. 70 00:04:25,373 --> 00:04:28,933 Speaker 6: In cricket, there's a thing called entropy, where you slowly 71 00:04:28,973 --> 00:04:33,493 Speaker 6: things deteriorate and die, and that's exactly what a cricket 72 00:04:33,493 --> 00:04:38,573 Speaker 6: pitch should really ideally do. They shouldn't keep getting better 73 00:04:38,613 --> 00:04:41,293 Speaker 6: and better and better. But they are in England at 74 00:04:41,293 --> 00:04:45,493 Speaker 6: the moment now, whether that's the summer that or whether 75 00:04:45,533 --> 00:04:48,333 Speaker 6: it's the fact that the heavy. 76 00:04:48,053 --> 00:04:50,453 Speaker 4: Rollers are being used a lot more, whether it's. 77 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:53,533 Speaker 6: The fact that they make their grounds over here so 78 00:04:54,693 --> 00:04:59,453 Speaker 6: rain averse. So soon as it drops bang down, it 79 00:04:59,493 --> 00:05:03,253 Speaker 6: goes and it drains away very quickly, so everything is 80 00:05:03,293 --> 00:05:07,453 Speaker 6: doing that and so the result of it all anyway, 81 00:05:07,533 --> 00:05:11,253 Speaker 6: I can only tell you as that they're roads. And 82 00:05:11,293 --> 00:05:14,653 Speaker 6: that's why Stokes doesn't even think about when he wins 83 00:05:14,693 --> 00:05:17,333 Speaker 6: the toss. He doesn't think about batting. He just goes 84 00:05:17,373 --> 00:05:20,773 Speaker 6: straight to bowling and trying to get on with it 85 00:05:21,293 --> 00:05:24,373 Speaker 6: and then bat last. He wants to bat second and 86 00:05:24,453 --> 00:05:28,853 Speaker 6: fourth worked for them and headingly, So a change in 87 00:05:28,933 --> 00:05:31,573 Speaker 6: the game as far as that's concerned over here. 88 00:05:32,013 --> 00:05:33,053 Speaker 3: Not exciting stuff. 89 00:05:33,093 --> 00:05:36,693 Speaker 5: But I know in the periods that you're not doing commentary, 90 00:05:36,733 --> 00:05:39,893 Speaker 5: you're probably doing what crochet, but a knitting or needle 91 00:05:39,893 --> 00:05:41,373 Speaker 5: work in mind or something. 92 00:05:41,373 --> 00:05:42,533 Speaker 3: Well, keep you excited. 93 00:05:42,853 --> 00:05:45,653 Speaker 6: Well, all the guys that I'm commentating with actually are 94 00:05:45,693 --> 00:05:48,053 Speaker 6: all from Surrey, So as soon as they were getting 95 00:05:48,053 --> 00:05:50,293 Speaker 6: close to eight hundred, they knew the target was eight 96 00:05:50,413 --> 00:05:53,453 Speaker 6: hundred and thirteen or something or other, and a wicket 97 00:05:53,493 --> 00:05:56,493 Speaker 6: fell just on the stroke of tea and I turned 98 00:05:56,573 --> 00:06:01,093 Speaker 6: round to see all these men, grown, mature men weeping, 99 00:06:01,733 --> 00:06:05,013 Speaker 6: weeping heavily because they thought they were going to declare 100 00:06:05,613 --> 00:06:08,813 Speaker 6: at that point and not take the extra ten runs. Well, 101 00:06:08,853 --> 00:06:10,853 Speaker 6: of course they came out after and got a few more, 102 00:06:12,013 --> 00:06:13,573 Speaker 6: and then there's smiles lit up. 103 00:06:13,613 --> 00:06:14,773 Speaker 4: Of course, ridiculous. 104 00:06:14,813 --> 00:06:19,453 Speaker 6: We don't play for bloody you know, things like rep hoards, 105 00:06:19,933 --> 00:06:20,453 Speaker 6: but they do. 106 00:06:20,653 --> 00:06:23,853 Speaker 4: They think that's important. That's that's where the game is 107 00:06:23,893 --> 00:06:24,653 Speaker 4: here at the moment. 108 00:06:25,213 --> 00:06:25,413 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:06:25,453 --> 00:06:27,373 Speaker 5: Well, some of the these elders have been playing over 110 00:06:27,413 --> 00:06:31,453 Speaker 5: there aren't playing in the most recent round. I think 111 00:06:31,453 --> 00:06:34,133 Speaker 5: Tom Latham is still there, Tim Robinson, Matt Henry is 112 00:06:34,173 --> 00:06:36,853 Speaker 5: playing for his county, and there may be others I 113 00:06:36,893 --> 00:06:39,813 Speaker 5: don't know, but the rest of them are off to 114 00:06:40,453 --> 00:06:44,733 Speaker 5: Zimbabwe for a try series named by the new coach 115 00:06:45,093 --> 00:06:48,453 Speaker 5: this week, Rob Walter but sent the Leeds aside. That 116 00:06:48,773 --> 00:06:53,453 Speaker 5: has pretty much picked itself. I'd imagine Bevan Jacobs is 117 00:06:53,813 --> 00:06:57,333 Speaker 5: the only new man. He's seen as a player of 118 00:06:57,373 --> 00:06:59,333 Speaker 5: the future in this form of the game, although he 119 00:06:59,373 --> 00:07:04,413 Speaker 5: wants to play longer form. Good on him, but Bevin, sorry, 120 00:07:04,413 --> 00:07:09,253 Speaker 5: Devon Conway hasn't hasn't made it. Lackey Ferguson looking after 121 00:07:09,293 --> 00:07:13,373 Speaker 5: his bowling loads. Ben Sears is injured, while Jamieson is 122 00:07:13,653 --> 00:07:16,093 Speaker 5: staying at home for the birth of his first child. 123 00:07:16,493 --> 00:07:20,213 Speaker 5: But they probably would have been chosen had they been available. 124 00:07:20,413 --> 00:07:23,213 Speaker 6: Those players, Yeah, well, I suppose the one that you 125 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:26,093 Speaker 6: mentioned there is Devin Conway. 126 00:07:26,533 --> 00:07:27,773 Speaker 4: I'm such a good player. 127 00:07:28,973 --> 00:07:31,933 Speaker 6: Hasn't quite got the results to match that blockbuster start 128 00:07:32,013 --> 00:07:35,973 Speaker 6: he made, has he? When he went into the side initially? 129 00:07:37,053 --> 00:07:39,733 Speaker 6: Pretty hard to keep that up. You hope he still 130 00:07:39,773 --> 00:07:43,173 Speaker 6: harbors the drive to play odeis and tests. 131 00:07:44,093 --> 00:07:47,973 Speaker 4: They may be his strength, but he's. 132 00:07:47,293 --> 00:07:50,493 Speaker 6: Probably got other twenty twenty short format options, hasn't he. 133 00:07:50,533 --> 00:07:52,613 Speaker 6: I mean, that's why he didn't take a contract and 134 00:07:53,213 --> 00:07:56,533 Speaker 6: why he's going to make a little bit of cash 135 00:07:56,573 --> 00:07:59,973 Speaker 6: while he can. It does seem to be a time 136 00:08:00,013 --> 00:08:00,573 Speaker 6: of change. 137 00:08:00,613 --> 00:08:01,693 Speaker 4: Wadds. When I looked at. 138 00:08:01,693 --> 00:08:04,173 Speaker 6: The I had a quick flick at the T twenty 139 00:08:04,213 --> 00:08:09,293 Speaker 6: World Cup, you know, twenty four at the in the 140 00:08:09,333 --> 00:08:12,933 Speaker 6: West Indies. You know that that side. I mean you 141 00:08:12,973 --> 00:08:16,133 Speaker 6: had Williamson on that side too. I'm not sure whether 142 00:08:16,173 --> 00:08:19,693 Speaker 6: they'll they'll look to have Williamson and they're either Chapman 143 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:21,733 Speaker 6: has come into the play, hasn't he? When you look 144 00:08:21,773 --> 00:08:25,573 Speaker 6: at that all the development that's going on currently in 145 00:08:25,653 --> 00:08:28,773 Speaker 6: New Zealand and when Pakistan were out in New Zealand recently, 146 00:08:29,093 --> 00:08:32,533 Speaker 6: a lot of new names we saw there and Seipher 147 00:08:32,533 --> 00:08:36,253 Speaker 6: had played very well and powerfully with Finellen, didn't he 148 00:08:36,293 --> 00:08:38,733 Speaker 6: at the start at the top of the innings. Yeah, 149 00:08:38,933 --> 00:08:40,813 Speaker 6: and Chapman was number three. 150 00:08:41,213 --> 00:08:42,933 Speaker 5: I suppose the only other one that you could be 151 00:08:44,093 --> 00:08:48,493 Speaker 5: questioning is is Sody with Eddie Ashock making an impression 152 00:08:48,773 --> 00:08:49,773 Speaker 5: and the AID tour. 153 00:08:50,893 --> 00:08:52,653 Speaker 3: But you know a new. 154 00:08:52,613 --> 00:08:55,293 Speaker 5: Lease of life under the new coat for East Sody, 155 00:08:55,613 --> 00:08:58,493 Speaker 5: so he's getting another chance in Zimbabwe. 156 00:08:58,853 --> 00:09:00,133 Speaker 3: It is only T twenty. 157 00:09:00,413 --> 00:09:02,253 Speaker 5: We don't want to get too carried away with it 158 00:09:02,253 --> 00:09:05,253 Speaker 5: would be interesting to see how they prepare and how 159 00:09:05,253 --> 00:09:07,653 Speaker 5: they developed, and they're going to be playing South Africa. 160 00:09:07,693 --> 00:09:11,413 Speaker 5: What side South Africa will take there? I'm not too sure, 161 00:09:11,493 --> 00:09:14,653 Speaker 5: but you know they may well use some of their 162 00:09:14,973 --> 00:09:22,933 Speaker 5: specialist short form players. Interesting stuff coming across the African continent. 163 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:27,973 Speaker 5: What didn't cost the West Indies the Test match they 164 00:09:28,013 --> 00:09:30,773 Speaker 5: played against Australia. They had cause to question some of 165 00:09:30,813 --> 00:09:34,653 Speaker 5: the decisions made by TV Empire Abian Holdstock during the match. 166 00:09:35,173 --> 00:09:38,133 Speaker 5: Darren Sammy said after the play, and he probably got 167 00:09:38,213 --> 00:09:40,933 Speaker 5: himself a slap over the knuckles for it, he was 168 00:09:41,013 --> 00:09:44,053 Speaker 5: unhappy with some of the decisions given by the South 169 00:09:44,093 --> 00:09:49,053 Speaker 5: African Empire using the technology. He said that the West 170 00:09:49,093 --> 00:09:52,893 Speaker 5: Indies concerns started on the white ball tour of. 171 00:09:52,853 --> 00:09:53,893 Speaker 3: England last month. 172 00:09:53,893 --> 00:09:56,613 Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what happened there, but I saw 173 00:09:56,733 --> 00:09:59,573 Speaker 5: some of those dismissals and I got to say they 174 00:09:59,613 --> 00:10:05,733 Speaker 5: did have reason, particularly one where and you've seen I 175 00:10:05,773 --> 00:10:07,453 Speaker 5: think you've seen the incident, Jerry, and you might have 176 00:10:07,493 --> 00:10:12,533 Speaker 5: also seen the photo so Alex Carey apparently taking a catch. 177 00:10:12,573 --> 00:10:15,453 Speaker 5: It was given out, but it's touching the ground and 178 00:10:15,493 --> 00:10:19,893 Speaker 5: I'm sorry to my mind that technology to me confirms 179 00:10:20,133 --> 00:10:23,253 Speaker 5: it's not out and should not have been given out 180 00:10:23,453 --> 00:10:25,813 Speaker 5: as it was by Umpire Holdstock. 181 00:10:25,893 --> 00:10:28,333 Speaker 4: The third umpire change the rule. 182 00:10:28,373 --> 00:10:32,133 Speaker 6: Didn't they remember to start taking a catch down at 183 00:10:32,213 --> 00:10:37,013 Speaker 6: fine leg and sliding along the ground, and even though 184 00:10:37,093 --> 00:10:39,253 Speaker 6: really he took the catch, but it was a mistake 185 00:10:39,373 --> 00:10:41,453 Speaker 6: as a player makes. And as long as you've got 186 00:10:41,493 --> 00:10:43,573 Speaker 6: the ball on the ground even though you're holding it, 187 00:10:44,133 --> 00:10:46,573 Speaker 6: they say that the ground is assisting you to take 188 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:47,173 Speaker 6: the catch. 189 00:10:47,973 --> 00:10:49,173 Speaker 4: And that's what it seemed to me. 190 00:10:49,773 --> 00:10:51,773 Speaker 6: I didn't see a lot of that match, was just 191 00:10:51,853 --> 00:10:57,413 Speaker 6: bits and pieces, and I did see that moment, and 192 00:10:57,493 --> 00:11:00,493 Speaker 6: I thought that that was not out. According to the 193 00:11:00,573 --> 00:11:04,373 Speaker 6: latest rule that they've made, you can't have the ball 194 00:11:04,453 --> 00:11:06,053 Speaker 6: resting on the ground. 195 00:11:07,453 --> 00:11:10,093 Speaker 4: To hold the cat. It's not allowed any longer. 196 00:11:12,573 --> 00:11:15,133 Speaker 6: And the other one I saw, I think was Cameron 197 00:11:15,213 --> 00:11:19,453 Speaker 6: Green was an LBW. Yeah, So it looked to me 198 00:11:19,573 --> 00:11:21,893 Speaker 6: as if it had brushed the front pad. To be 199 00:11:21,973 --> 00:11:24,933 Speaker 6: really honest, if you look at the registration of the 200 00:11:25,613 --> 00:11:27,533 Speaker 6: you know that you have when the book all goes 201 00:11:27,573 --> 00:11:29,693 Speaker 6: past the pad or the bat or anything like that, 202 00:11:29,933 --> 00:11:33,093 Speaker 6: as long as nothing else is scuffing the ground. It 203 00:11:33,133 --> 00:11:35,253 Speaker 6: looked to me as if it were hit the pad 204 00:11:35,493 --> 00:11:39,773 Speaker 6: before it went further back, and bats and pads and 205 00:11:39,813 --> 00:11:42,453 Speaker 6: all sorts of things were involved, weren't they, But it 206 00:11:42,493 --> 00:11:45,093 Speaker 6: had already hit the pad in the front, I had thought, 207 00:11:46,853 --> 00:11:49,093 Speaker 6: but we all have you know, we all have views 208 00:11:49,133 --> 00:11:54,213 Speaker 6: on this, and it's a shame, a shame that, you know, 209 00:11:54,373 --> 00:11:58,733 Speaker 6: you get to these situations that they feel that it. 210 00:11:59,613 --> 00:12:02,493 Speaker 4: I don't think it cost them the game on a 211 00:12:02,613 --> 00:12:03,213 Speaker 4: larger on. 212 00:12:03,213 --> 00:12:09,173 Speaker 6: A larger larger point though, Wads I thought, while the 213 00:12:09,213 --> 00:12:11,773 Speaker 6: ball nipped around a bit in that game, didn't it? 214 00:12:12,653 --> 00:12:15,293 Speaker 4: And Haazel would showed us that later on. 215 00:12:15,973 --> 00:12:24,533 Speaker 6: You know, Jaden seals Shama Joseph, and then you know 216 00:12:24,613 --> 00:12:27,933 Speaker 6: they had Alzari Joseph and then the guy justin Greeves 217 00:12:27,973 --> 00:12:31,413 Speaker 6: as well. They look to be quite a useful and 218 00:12:31,573 --> 00:12:36,853 Speaker 6: developing medium fast attack. And now they're coming out for 219 00:12:36,893 --> 00:12:40,133 Speaker 6: three tests in New Zealand. If they can keep those 220 00:12:40,173 --> 00:12:44,573 Speaker 6: three four bowlers together. There was Roston Chase as well. 221 00:12:44,613 --> 00:12:47,053 Speaker 6: He was there, wasn't he as a bowler and they 222 00:12:47,053 --> 00:12:49,133 Speaker 6: had a couple of bats and Shy Hope was there. 223 00:12:49,133 --> 00:12:50,973 Speaker 4: It wasn't he in a guy called cart He looked 224 00:12:50,973 --> 00:12:51,533 Speaker 4: okay for. 225 00:12:51,493 --> 00:12:55,893 Speaker 6: A while, and again Chase, they they've got you know, 226 00:12:56,013 --> 00:13:00,773 Speaker 6: at the moment they could be not the pushover that 227 00:13:00,933 --> 00:13:02,653 Speaker 6: perhaps they might be. 228 00:13:02,733 --> 00:13:04,093 Speaker 4: It might have been in the past. 229 00:13:04,933 --> 00:13:07,413 Speaker 6: I thought their seam bowling attack looked, Okay, I don't 230 00:13:07,453 --> 00:13:08,173 Speaker 6: what did what did you? 231 00:13:08,893 --> 00:13:09,133 Speaker 4: Yeah? 232 00:13:09,493 --> 00:13:11,533 Speaker 5: I think that they're going to be very dangerous in 233 00:13:11,573 --> 00:13:14,813 Speaker 5: our conditions because they've got good pace, they've got the 234 00:13:14,933 --> 00:13:16,253 Speaker 5: kind of accuracy you want. 235 00:13:16,533 --> 00:13:18,013 Speaker 3: There's venom in that attack. 236 00:13:18,053 --> 00:13:21,293 Speaker 5: Alzari Joseph seems to hate everything that carries a bat 237 00:13:21,613 --> 00:13:24,493 Speaker 5: and he shows it out on the park and really 238 00:13:24,893 --> 00:13:26,853 Speaker 5: litterp So that's going to be interesting when they get 239 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:29,973 Speaker 5: out here later in the year. And we will watch 240 00:13:30,013 --> 00:13:33,053 Speaker 5: this series a little more closely. 241 00:13:33,333 --> 00:13:37,493 Speaker 4: Brian Waddle, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot, on the. 242 00:13:37,493 --> 00:13:40,613 Speaker 5: Front foot, the white ferns. A side is midway through 243 00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:44,653 Speaker 5: an important development tour of England. Three ODI's and three 244 00:13:44,773 --> 00:13:48,533 Speaker 5: T twenties. The ODI series has been completed two narrow 245 00:13:48,573 --> 00:13:51,773 Speaker 5: deve feats and well, I suppose a heavy loss in 246 00:13:51,853 --> 00:13:55,173 Speaker 5: Game three by six wickets, But I wonder whether the 247 00:13:55,253 --> 00:13:59,253 Speaker 5: significance of this tour may be more than just straights results. 248 00:13:59,613 --> 00:14:01,533 Speaker 5: A chance to find out from one of the coaches, 249 00:14:01,573 --> 00:14:06,973 Speaker 5: Craig McMillan, who joins OTFF again. And it's in Chilsford, 250 00:14:06,973 --> 00:14:10,573 Speaker 5: the home of Essex Aunt Equicket Club, and they're preparing 251 00:14:10,613 --> 00:14:12,893 Speaker 5: for the first T twenties Mecca, thanks for joining us 252 00:14:13,093 --> 00:14:17,653 Speaker 5: once again. Two close ones and then a bit of 253 00:14:17,653 --> 00:14:21,173 Speaker 5: a blip on the radar of the third game you 254 00:14:21,373 --> 00:14:22,373 Speaker 5: changed venues. 255 00:14:23,173 --> 00:14:25,573 Speaker 7: Yeah, yesterday was disappointing. We didn't get things right with 256 00:14:25,613 --> 00:14:27,853 Speaker 7: the bat. We lost too many wickets and clumps and 257 00:14:27,853 --> 00:14:32,093 Speaker 7: put ourselves under presser after two really competitive, close, close 258 00:14:32,173 --> 00:14:34,013 Speaker 7: matches in the first two games where we lost both 259 00:14:34,053 --> 00:14:36,893 Speaker 7: six runs and two runs, and those sorts of games 260 00:14:36,893 --> 00:14:39,173 Speaker 7: then go either way, so the girls are really disappointed 261 00:14:39,173 --> 00:14:41,693 Speaker 7: that they didn't get over the line in those first 262 00:14:41,693 --> 00:14:44,253 Speaker 7: two matches. But there's some great learnings from this side. 263 00:14:45,013 --> 00:14:48,693 Speaker 7: A number away on tour for the first time. You know, 264 00:14:48,813 --> 00:14:51,453 Speaker 7: the average age of the group's twenty three, The oldest 265 00:14:51,493 --> 00:14:54,413 Speaker 7: is twenty nine, the youngest is nineteen, so there's going 266 00:14:54,493 --> 00:14:56,533 Speaker 7: to be some great experiences for them on and off 267 00:14:56,573 --> 00:14:59,493 Speaker 7: the field throughout this tour and the standard of cricket 268 00:14:59,613 --> 00:15:03,173 Speaker 7: a cricket is so important the women's game, so it's 269 00:15:03,173 --> 00:15:04,573 Speaker 7: going to be a good too. We've got three t 270 00:15:04,573 --> 00:15:07,693 Speaker 7: twenties left, a couple and chanted over the next three 271 00:15:07,773 --> 00:15:09,533 Speaker 7: or four days, which we're really looking forward to. 272 00:15:10,573 --> 00:15:12,533 Speaker 5: Yes, and these ladies are going to be part of 273 00:15:12,573 --> 00:15:16,973 Speaker 5: our international scene pretty soon, aren't they. There's some already 274 00:15:17,053 --> 00:15:20,693 Speaker 5: there and some who are pushing the door open. 275 00:15:21,493 --> 00:15:25,253 Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, And that's the thing. There's a number of them. 276 00:15:25,293 --> 00:15:27,613 Speaker 7: I think there's nine or ten that have actually played 277 00:15:27,613 --> 00:15:30,333 Speaker 7: for the White Fans, but a number of them have 278 00:15:30,413 --> 00:15:32,493 Speaker 7: only played two or three games, so just in the 279 00:15:32,533 --> 00:15:35,973 Speaker 7: infancy really of their international careers. So an a two 280 00:15:36,173 --> 00:15:39,453 Speaker 7: like this is so important. It's a high standard of cricket. England, 281 00:15:39,453 --> 00:15:41,893 Speaker 7: as you know, are always strong, they have great depth 282 00:15:41,973 --> 00:15:46,373 Speaker 7: and their teams over here. There's a number of players, 283 00:15:46,613 --> 00:15:49,453 Speaker 7: like I mentioned, on their first tours, so this is 284 00:15:49,453 --> 00:15:51,813 Speaker 7: a step up from domestic level in New Zealand. So 285 00:15:51,853 --> 00:15:54,573 Speaker 7: it's a good experience for them to see the level 286 00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:56,853 Speaker 7: and the skill set that they need to get to 287 00:15:56,893 --> 00:16:00,653 Speaker 7: if they want to play international cricket. And we've been 288 00:16:00,733 --> 00:16:03,293 Speaker 7: very lucky so farwards we've been in England, haven't had 289 00:16:03,333 --> 00:16:05,333 Speaker 7: a day of rain. The weather has been great, so 290 00:16:05,413 --> 00:16:06,813 Speaker 7: it's just been perfect for cricket. 291 00:16:07,533 --> 00:16:09,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the great process. 292 00:16:09,573 --> 00:16:14,293 Speaker 5: In terms of what any side wants I mentioned at 293 00:16:14,293 --> 00:16:18,213 Speaker 5: the start, you know, winning against development. I know every 294 00:16:18,213 --> 00:16:20,853 Speaker 5: side wants to win, but you have to change your 295 00:16:20,853 --> 00:16:23,253 Speaker 5: side too, don't you. So that everybody gets a fair 296 00:16:23,293 --> 00:16:23,893 Speaker 5: crack of the whip. 297 00:16:24,813 --> 00:16:25,373 Speaker 8: Yeah, you do. 298 00:16:26,613 --> 00:16:30,173 Speaker 7: Winning is important obviously every game you play. That's in 299 00:16:30,213 --> 00:16:32,333 Speaker 7: the back of your mind, isn't it. But there is 300 00:16:32,333 --> 00:16:34,893 Speaker 7: a bigger picture with this group, there's no doubt about that. 301 00:16:35,293 --> 00:16:37,853 Speaker 7: As I mentioned, the average age is twenty three, so 302 00:16:37,893 --> 00:16:41,893 Speaker 7: some of them are still very fresh, still learning their games, 303 00:16:42,933 --> 00:16:44,973 Speaker 7: and that's a great thing about the squad. They're keen 304 00:16:45,053 --> 00:16:47,693 Speaker 7: to learn, they want to get better, they want to 305 00:16:47,733 --> 00:16:52,293 Speaker 7: be coached and that's exciting. So yeah, there is a 306 00:16:52,373 --> 00:16:56,293 Speaker 7: degree of development. But this a program is so important. 307 00:16:56,413 --> 00:16:58,493 Speaker 7: I know, it's something that is on cricket if committed 308 00:16:58,533 --> 00:17:02,533 Speaker 7: to within the women's game. Because the one thing you 309 00:17:02,573 --> 00:17:04,853 Speaker 7: notice when you come to England, and I think you've 310 00:17:04,893 --> 00:17:07,053 Speaker 7: been on a number of tours at different times over 311 00:17:07,093 --> 00:17:09,653 Speaker 7: the years, it's just how much cricket has played in 312 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:14,693 Speaker 7: England and it's quite remarkable how much women's cricket has 313 00:17:14,693 --> 00:17:17,573 Speaker 7: played now over here and you can see how the 314 00:17:17,573 --> 00:17:21,013 Speaker 7: growth of the game, how upskilled and good the players 315 00:17:21,053 --> 00:17:23,973 Speaker 7: get just through the amount of cricket they play, and 316 00:17:23,973 --> 00:17:27,293 Speaker 7: it's something that we have to keep pushing really hard 317 00:17:27,333 --> 00:17:28,813 Speaker 7: on domestically in New Zealand. 318 00:17:29,613 --> 00:17:31,653 Speaker 8: I think it would help to play more cricket for 319 00:17:31,693 --> 00:17:32,133 Speaker 8: these girls. 320 00:17:32,173 --> 00:17:34,773 Speaker 7: They train a lot, but perhaps we don't get the 321 00:17:34,813 --> 00:17:37,773 Speaker 7: experience that we need with game time. So tours like this, 322 00:17:38,573 --> 00:17:42,813 Speaker 7: where you've got different conditions, you're touring for a month, 323 00:17:43,333 --> 00:17:44,493 Speaker 7: are just so invaluable. 324 00:17:45,413 --> 00:17:47,533 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the challenge for all of our game, 325 00:17:47,613 --> 00:17:50,813 Speaker 5: isn't it as such? But these young ladies are just 326 00:17:50,973 --> 00:17:55,013 Speaker 5: starting to take the major steps. What is your role 327 00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:59,213 Speaker 5: as a coach as such? Is it coaching technique and 328 00:17:59,493 --> 00:18:01,293 Speaker 5: the skills of the game, or is it working on 329 00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:04,813 Speaker 5: the mental approach and how they go about getting into 330 00:18:04,853 --> 00:18:07,333 Speaker 5: positions because I think in Game two they probably got 331 00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:09,733 Speaker 5: into a winning position and died with a couple of 332 00:18:09,813 --> 00:18:13,173 Speaker 5: runs to go. And we've been lucky to see some 333 00:18:13,213 --> 00:18:16,013 Speaker 5: of it here in New Zealand two on the English 334 00:18:16,253 --> 00:18:20,053 Speaker 5: Cricket Board website, so it's been nice to be able 335 00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:23,933 Speaker 5: to watch some of that cricket. What's the coach's role. 336 00:18:25,093 --> 00:18:26,253 Speaker 8: All of those things you mentioned? 337 00:18:26,293 --> 00:18:29,453 Speaker 7: To be honest, Look, it's when you're on tour you're 338 00:18:29,493 --> 00:18:33,173 Speaker 7: talking talking the technical side, watch to me is so 339 00:18:33,253 --> 00:18:36,493 Speaker 7: important and quite often forgotten. Quite often as players you're 340 00:18:36,493 --> 00:18:38,573 Speaker 7: always thinking about the technical side. 341 00:18:39,573 --> 00:18:42,013 Speaker 8: What are my hands doing, are my feet moving? All 342 00:18:42,053 --> 00:18:42,933 Speaker 8: those sorts of things. 343 00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:46,893 Speaker 7: Quite often, when you're thinking technical, you're forgetting about the 344 00:18:47,013 --> 00:18:51,733 Speaker 7: basics of watching the ball, finding gaps, running hard, doing 345 00:18:51,773 --> 00:18:55,373 Speaker 7: the basics well, So there's a real technical side, and 346 00:18:55,453 --> 00:18:58,093 Speaker 7: some of the situations that the girls have found themselves 347 00:18:58,093 --> 00:19:01,693 Speaker 7: in over there, especially those first two matches where we 348 00:19:01,813 --> 00:19:05,053 Speaker 7: felt we should have won both matches, are going to 349 00:19:05,093 --> 00:19:07,613 Speaker 7: be invaluable. They will be in those positions again, so 350 00:19:07,653 --> 00:19:08,173 Speaker 7: they all have. 351 00:19:09,053 --> 00:19:09,933 Speaker 8: Experience to. 352 00:19:11,453 --> 00:19:14,293 Speaker 7: Go back onto where last time I did this it 353 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:17,413 Speaker 7: didn't work right. I'm going to try something different to 354 00:19:17,413 --> 00:19:19,333 Speaker 7: see if that will get us over the line that 355 00:19:19,413 --> 00:19:22,773 Speaker 7: will be successful. So you can't replicate that at training 356 00:19:22,973 --> 00:19:27,093 Speaker 7: was you really can't those pressure situations where you're chasing 357 00:19:27,133 --> 00:19:29,533 Speaker 7: down A total of two hundred and eighty plus watches 358 00:19:29,533 --> 00:19:32,653 Speaker 7: a high total in the women's game. But as you 359 00:19:32,693 --> 00:19:34,653 Speaker 7: can see with some of the scores around the world, 360 00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:38,653 Speaker 7: the girls are getting better and better powers be coming 361 00:19:38,693 --> 00:19:41,413 Speaker 7: into the game now the women's game, so higher scores 362 00:19:41,693 --> 00:19:44,253 Speaker 7: are becoming more prevalent. So the ability to deal with 363 00:19:44,333 --> 00:19:47,493 Speaker 7: pressure in those situations is one of the real keys 364 00:19:47,533 --> 00:19:49,893 Speaker 7: and one of the real learnings that these girls will 365 00:19:49,893 --> 00:19:50,613 Speaker 7: get from this tour. 366 00:19:51,493 --> 00:19:54,293 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I guess from the England day point of view, 367 00:19:54,613 --> 00:19:58,133 Speaker 5: they too have something special to play for because their 368 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:01,053 Speaker 5: top side is struggling. They were given a thrashing by 369 00:20:01,373 --> 00:20:04,173 Speaker 5: India recently, so you know there could be places for 370 00:20:04,253 --> 00:20:05,733 Speaker 5: them and they want to be playing for that that 371 00:20:05,933 --> 00:20:07,813 Speaker 5: they seem to be a pretty useful side. 372 00:20:08,573 --> 00:20:10,813 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, the top side got beat them by 373 00:20:10,853 --> 00:20:14,733 Speaker 7: India the other other day at Nottingham. They've got a 374 00:20:14,773 --> 00:20:16,613 Speaker 7: new coach on board, so they've had some change. 375 00:20:16,653 --> 00:20:17,013 Speaker 8: England. 376 00:20:17,093 --> 00:20:20,293 Speaker 7: I mean they've always been in the top three sides 377 00:20:20,293 --> 00:20:22,733 Speaker 7: in the world, which is no surprise with the resource 378 00:20:22,813 --> 00:20:26,813 Speaker 7: and the playing numbers and the game time that they get, 379 00:20:27,053 --> 00:20:29,173 Speaker 7: so they are always a challenge. Their A side is 380 00:20:29,293 --> 00:20:32,413 Speaker 7: very strong, a number of players have played for England, 381 00:20:32,413 --> 00:20:36,613 Speaker 7: so they're pushing for positions in that top side. So 382 00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:38,733 Speaker 7: there's a lot to play for for them as well. 383 00:20:39,013 --> 00:20:41,693 Speaker 7: And that's what you want, a competitive series that's going 384 00:20:41,773 --> 00:20:44,453 Speaker 7: to test you in different situations. And for some of 385 00:20:44,453 --> 00:20:47,533 Speaker 7: our girls, it's a new experience this standard and it's 386 00:20:47,533 --> 00:20:51,253 Speaker 7: finding your feet and that's not always easy. But you 387 00:20:51,293 --> 00:20:54,213 Speaker 7: know what I like about this New Zealand side, WADS 388 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:56,293 Speaker 7: is that a lot of the girls are adapting very quick, 389 00:20:56,613 --> 00:20:58,933 Speaker 7: and that's really important. There's no doubt the talent's there, 390 00:20:58,973 --> 00:21:01,653 Speaker 7: because a number of these girls are going to play 391 00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:03,613 Speaker 7: a lot of cricket for the White Ferns and years 392 00:21:03,613 --> 00:21:06,733 Speaker 7: to come, and this tour is just going to be 393 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:08,693 Speaker 7: one of those stepping stones for a lot of them. 394 00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:09,453 Speaker 3: Yeah. 395 00:21:09,533 --> 00:21:11,933 Speaker 5: I know it's hard for coaches to talk about individuals, 396 00:21:12,013 --> 00:21:15,053 Speaker 5: but I've been watching some of them play and I'm 397 00:21:15,093 --> 00:21:17,773 Speaker 5: quite excited by the development of them. The one who 398 00:21:17,853 --> 00:21:21,413 Speaker 5: really excites me the most out of that squad is 399 00:21:21,413 --> 00:21:25,893 Speaker 5: your left arm Seemer pree Illing someone who bowls left 400 00:21:26,013 --> 00:21:30,213 Speaker 5: arm and swings the ball and you know she may 401 00:21:30,213 --> 00:21:31,893 Speaker 5: be giving away a few runs here and there, but 402 00:21:32,373 --> 00:21:36,453 Speaker 5: the development that I've noticed from the home summer to 403 00:21:36,573 --> 00:21:39,733 Speaker 5: now in her play is quite amazing. 404 00:21:40,773 --> 00:21:43,493 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good point, and she's been excellent for us, 405 00:21:43,813 --> 00:21:47,373 Speaker 7: and it's a good example. I think of finding a 406 00:21:47,413 --> 00:21:50,053 Speaker 7: player with the talent and the skill set you think 407 00:21:50,213 --> 00:21:53,213 Speaker 7: can be successful at the next level and then exposing 408 00:21:53,253 --> 00:21:56,453 Speaker 7: here to that level. And she has gone forward and 409 00:21:56,533 --> 00:22:00,613 Speaker 7: leaps and bounds. Is no doubt about that. Despite what 410 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:02,373 Speaker 7: you see in this series where there's a number of 411 00:22:02,453 --> 00:22:06,013 Speaker 7: left hand batters and left arm bowlers from England. Generally, 412 00:22:06,093 --> 00:22:08,973 Speaker 7: left handers and left armors are quite a rarity in 413 00:22:09,013 --> 00:22:11,373 Speaker 7: the women's game. I know it, certainly, Dylan. 414 00:22:11,453 --> 00:22:15,373 Speaker 8: They are. So Bree is a real standout. 415 00:22:15,413 --> 00:22:16,933 Speaker 7: She's got that X fact and when you've got a 416 00:22:17,013 --> 00:22:20,333 Speaker 7: left armor who can swing the ball make life difficult 417 00:22:20,373 --> 00:22:24,453 Speaker 7: for right handers. Yeah, she's a real weapon and something 418 00:22:25,053 --> 00:22:27,933 Speaker 7: someone that we've seen for a week while. But her 419 00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:31,413 Speaker 7: transformation and the way she's gone over the last twelve 420 00:22:31,493 --> 00:22:32,813 Speaker 7: months has been awesome. 421 00:22:33,253 --> 00:22:34,653 Speaker 5: You made the point that I was going to ask 422 00:22:34,693 --> 00:22:37,213 Speaker 5: about the number of left handers because I don't know 423 00:22:37,373 --> 00:22:40,453 Speaker 5: the women's game internationally to that extent, but you know 424 00:22:40,493 --> 00:22:43,093 Speaker 5: there aren't a lot of left arm bowlers in particular 425 00:22:43,893 --> 00:22:45,173 Speaker 5: who are at the top level. 426 00:22:46,293 --> 00:22:46,813 Speaker 8: No, there's not. 427 00:22:47,253 --> 00:22:50,453 Speaker 7: I mean in New Zealand we've got roughly two betters. 428 00:22:50,453 --> 00:22:54,653 Speaker 7: Flora Devonshire Brooke Halladay are really the only two left 429 00:22:54,653 --> 00:22:57,733 Speaker 7: handers that we have played to Mistic cricket in terms 430 00:22:57,773 --> 00:23:00,333 Speaker 7: of left arm armors are even more of a rarity. 431 00:23:00,453 --> 00:23:03,373 Speaker 7: So it makes Brie a standout, it really does, and 432 00:23:03,373 --> 00:23:07,053 Speaker 7: gives her that X factor. It's been surprised over here 433 00:23:07,093 --> 00:23:09,253 Speaker 7: to see how many there are in England a side 434 00:23:09,293 --> 00:23:14,813 Speaker 7: because it's most unusual, but I guess it's something that, yeah, 435 00:23:15,293 --> 00:23:19,773 Speaker 7: you just have to work with and I guess get 436 00:23:19,853 --> 00:23:23,093 Speaker 7: used to because it's a little bit different. But having 437 00:23:23,093 --> 00:23:24,933 Speaker 7: that left armor swing the ball at the type and 438 00:23:24,973 --> 00:23:28,373 Speaker 7: we saw yesterday in that third ady I gore Bob 439 00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:31,093 Speaker 7: beautifully for England, didn't she. She swung the ball and 440 00:23:31,173 --> 00:23:34,053 Speaker 7: made life difficult for our top order. So anyone that 441 00:23:34,093 --> 00:23:36,093 Speaker 7: can swing the ball at the top, especially left armor, 442 00:23:36,133 --> 00:23:36,893 Speaker 7: is a week diamond. 443 00:23:37,813 --> 00:23:40,373 Speaker 5: Are we starting to see the real talent of as 444 00:23:40,413 --> 00:23:44,013 Speaker 5: he Gaze with the bat? She played an outstanding innings 445 00:23:44,053 --> 00:23:47,653 Speaker 5: in I think the first game, and she's a very 446 00:23:47,813 --> 00:23:53,013 Speaker 5: aggressive and I think a talented who's prepared to go 447 00:23:53,133 --> 00:23:54,493 Speaker 5: just a little bit wider than the. 448 00:23:54,453 --> 00:23:58,453 Speaker 7: Traditional Yes, she is, and remembering what she's only twenty 449 00:23:58,493 --> 00:24:00,973 Speaker 7: one years old. She seems like she's been in that 450 00:24:01,013 --> 00:24:04,053 Speaker 7: white fournd side for quite a while, but she is 451 00:24:04,093 --> 00:24:05,413 Speaker 7: still developing her game. 452 00:24:05,813 --> 00:24:09,413 Speaker 8: She played beautifully in that first match where she has. 453 00:24:09,293 --> 00:24:11,693 Speaker 7: The ability to hit the ball hard, fine gaps and 454 00:24:11,693 --> 00:24:15,893 Speaker 7: actually put bowlers under pressure. Unfortunately, she's had a little 455 00:24:15,893 --> 00:24:18,413 Speaker 7: bit of a niggle, hasn't played the last couple of games, 456 00:24:18,453 --> 00:24:20,773 Speaker 7: but now will be fit for the T twenty series, 457 00:24:20,773 --> 00:24:23,013 Speaker 7: so she will come back into her side and she'll 458 00:24:23,053 --> 00:24:26,133 Speaker 7: be an important member of that. But her development again 459 00:24:26,293 --> 00:24:29,493 Speaker 7: has been it's taken some time. And that's the thing 460 00:24:29,693 --> 00:24:33,413 Speaker 7: was that things don't happen necessarily really quickly. You need 461 00:24:33,453 --> 00:24:37,133 Speaker 7: to put time and effort and resource into these girls. 462 00:24:37,613 --> 00:24:40,133 Speaker 7: And as he Gays is probably an example that she 463 00:24:40,213 --> 00:24:43,093 Speaker 7: has been around the scene for two or three years, 464 00:24:43,613 --> 00:24:46,213 Speaker 7: and I think over the next two or three years 465 00:24:46,253 --> 00:24:48,013 Speaker 7: is when we're going to see how good a player 466 00:24:48,053 --> 00:24:50,133 Speaker 7: she is. And again she's going to score a lot 467 00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:51,093 Speaker 7: of runs to New Zealand. 468 00:24:51,653 --> 00:24:54,373 Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about the time and the development, though 469 00:24:54,613 --> 00:24:56,733 Speaker 5: it has to be done earlier too, doesn't it in 470 00:24:56,813 --> 00:25:01,093 Speaker 5: terms of the level of cricket that these women are 471 00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:05,013 Speaker 5: playing club level, college level right the way through the development, 472 00:25:05,053 --> 00:25:08,053 Speaker 5: we shouldn't be saving it to the A grade when 473 00:25:08,453 --> 00:25:10,733 Speaker 5: you know this time next year just about all of 474 00:25:10,773 --> 00:25:12,173 Speaker 5: them could be in the white fans. 475 00:25:12,813 --> 00:25:15,013 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good point and it's one of those 476 00:25:15,093 --> 00:25:19,053 Speaker 7: challenges I think for the women's game, just because of 477 00:25:19,173 --> 00:25:22,773 Speaker 7: numbers of teens that are played, there's just not the 478 00:25:22,773 --> 00:25:25,613 Speaker 7: amount of cricket from an early age that perhaps the 479 00:25:25,653 --> 00:25:28,973 Speaker 7: boys have in terms of that volume of cricket, So 480 00:25:29,213 --> 00:25:31,133 Speaker 7: it does take a little bit longer in terms of 481 00:25:31,173 --> 00:25:34,693 Speaker 7: that development. And that's when his cricket are doing some 482 00:25:34,813 --> 00:25:38,813 Speaker 7: very good stuff in terms of winter coaching groups, getting time, 483 00:25:38,893 --> 00:25:42,893 Speaker 7: getting specialist coaching into these talented girls, taking them away 484 00:25:42,893 --> 00:25:45,053 Speaker 7: on tours like this so that we can try and 485 00:25:45,093 --> 00:25:48,253 Speaker 7: speed up that learning process and that skill set process 486 00:25:48,333 --> 00:25:51,453 Speaker 7: so that once they hit the domestic scene, once they 487 00:25:51,493 --> 00:25:54,213 Speaker 7: hit the white fans and the international scene, that they 488 00:25:54,213 --> 00:25:54,933 Speaker 7: are ready to go. 489 00:25:56,253 --> 00:25:58,653 Speaker 5: One of those players who should be benefiting and I 490 00:25:58,653 --> 00:26:01,013 Speaker 5: suppose there's a touch of parochialism here from my point 491 00:26:01,053 --> 00:26:02,013 Speaker 5: of view, Georgia Plummer. 492 00:26:02,933 --> 00:26:03,733 Speaker 3: We heard a lot. 493 00:26:03,613 --> 00:26:07,373 Speaker 5: About her and she didn't deliver early on, although the 494 00:26:07,413 --> 00:26:10,733 Speaker 5: talent was there. Now we're starting to see changes in 495 00:26:10,773 --> 00:26:14,533 Speaker 5: her game and the innings are starting to bear fruit 496 00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:14,933 Speaker 5: for her. 497 00:26:15,653 --> 00:26:18,933 Speaker 8: Yeah, they are. It's been a big twelve months for Georgia. 498 00:26:19,373 --> 00:26:22,893 Speaker 7: I remember, and she played against Australia and Brisbane actually 499 00:26:22,933 --> 00:26:24,733 Speaker 7: on the way to the T twenty World Cup where 500 00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:28,693 Speaker 7: and you know what it's like was sometimes as a player, 501 00:26:29,293 --> 00:26:32,293 Speaker 7: you need that one innings against the good opposition to 502 00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:35,133 Speaker 7: have that belief that I belong at this level. And 503 00:26:35,213 --> 00:26:37,533 Speaker 7: she scored fifty in that match, and I felt that 504 00:26:37,693 --> 00:26:40,573 Speaker 7: was quite an important innings for her, just in terms 505 00:26:40,573 --> 00:26:44,133 Speaker 7: of that self belief that she was good enough to 506 00:26:44,213 --> 00:26:46,573 Speaker 7: play at that level. And she's really gone from strength 507 00:26:46,653 --> 00:26:49,853 Speaker 7: to strength. Played beautifully during that T twenty World Cup. 508 00:26:50,533 --> 00:26:53,413 Speaker 7: She hits the ball hard, she gets some good positions. 509 00:26:54,093 --> 00:26:56,093 Speaker 7: She hits the ball nice and straight too. What do 510 00:26:56,093 --> 00:26:58,533 Speaker 7: you always like as a coach when someone's hitting the 511 00:26:58,613 --> 00:27:01,773 Speaker 7: ball straight and down the ground and hitting the side screen. 512 00:27:02,933 --> 00:27:05,653 Speaker 7: And again for her, she's played sixty odd matches for 513 00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:09,493 Speaker 7: the White Fern squads, but again she's still very raw 514 00:27:09,533 --> 00:27:10,133 Speaker 7: in terms of. 515 00:27:11,693 --> 00:27:12,853 Speaker 8: Understanding her game. 516 00:27:13,173 --> 00:27:15,973 Speaker 7: That development has taken a while, but now we're seeing 517 00:27:16,373 --> 00:27:18,013 Speaker 7: I think, the benefits of her and she's scored a 518 00:27:18,093 --> 00:27:21,293 Speaker 7: very good hundred in that second match. She was disappointed 519 00:27:21,413 --> 00:27:23,893 Speaker 7: to get out at the stage that she did because 520 00:27:24,373 --> 00:27:28,493 Speaker 7: she was playing so well right throughout that innings and 521 00:27:28,533 --> 00:27:30,253 Speaker 7: that was one of the learnings that we took in 522 00:27:30,333 --> 00:27:32,813 Speaker 7: terms of Georgia getting to one hundred, and then we 523 00:27:32,893 --> 00:27:36,253 Speaker 7: talked about it's time to reset and quite often players 524 00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:39,693 Speaker 7: get out just after they score one hundred and milestone 525 00:27:40,733 --> 00:27:44,493 Speaker 7: and the ability to reset is so important. So there's 526 00:27:44,493 --> 00:27:46,653 Speaker 7: a lot of things that have been learned, not only 527 00:27:46,693 --> 00:27:49,333 Speaker 7: on the field but off the field, which, as I mentioned, 528 00:27:49,333 --> 00:27:50,693 Speaker 7: makes this to so valuable. 529 00:27:51,533 --> 00:27:51,733 Speaker 3: Yeah. 530 00:27:51,853 --> 00:27:54,293 Speaker 5: Right, so you move to two twenties. Now, how does 531 00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:58,373 Speaker 5: that change for the coaches? A change of mental approach? Again, 532 00:27:58,853 --> 00:28:01,333 Speaker 5: the skills of the same, aren't they, although sometimes you 533 00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:04,373 Speaker 5: have to do or they try to do something a 534 00:28:04,413 --> 00:28:08,213 Speaker 5: little bit different, the reverse sweeps and the scoops and 535 00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:11,453 Speaker 5: everything else that comes in the old Craig ncmullon shot. 536 00:28:12,973 --> 00:28:14,653 Speaker 7: I never used to play those words. What are you 537 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:19,533 Speaker 7: talking about? Yes, there's a little bit more freedom, which 538 00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:23,013 Speaker 7: T twenty is great. It allows batters to play with 539 00:28:23,053 --> 00:28:26,573 Speaker 7: that freedom, to be expressive, to not fear hitting the 540 00:28:26,613 --> 00:28:29,453 Speaker 7: ball in the air. From a bowling point of view, 541 00:28:29,493 --> 00:28:31,653 Speaker 7: you've got to be very precise with your fields and 542 00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:35,453 Speaker 7: what sort of delivery you're trying to bowl. So I 543 00:28:35,533 --> 00:28:37,973 Speaker 7: really look forward to the T twenty series. I think that, 544 00:28:38,853 --> 00:28:41,373 Speaker 7: you know, the fundamentals are still important. Words, You still 545 00:28:41,373 --> 00:28:44,693 Speaker 7: need partnerships. Once a player gets in, they still have 546 00:28:44,773 --> 00:28:48,173 Speaker 7: to bat on, but they just have to do it 547 00:28:48,173 --> 00:28:50,333 Speaker 7: in shorter periods. It's only a twenty over game, so 548 00:28:50,373 --> 00:28:53,213 Speaker 7: everything's just a little bit shorter, but the fundamentals are 549 00:28:53,253 --> 00:28:55,973 Speaker 7: still the same. If there's a good ball, you still 550 00:28:56,013 --> 00:28:58,373 Speaker 7: have to respect it, but you're trying to put some 551 00:28:58,413 --> 00:29:01,773 Speaker 7: pressure back on the bowling side, so it'll be a 552 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:04,733 Speaker 7: competitive series. England are very strong, as I've mentioned, but 553 00:29:05,093 --> 00:29:07,973 Speaker 7: I'm really looking forward to to this T twenty series 554 00:29:07,973 --> 00:29:08,933 Speaker 7: starting on Thursday. 555 00:29:09,573 --> 00:29:11,293 Speaker 5: Yeah, exciting year for the women do, isn't it because 556 00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:15,333 Speaker 5: there's a World Cup coming up and there's plenty of crickets. 557 00:29:15,453 --> 00:29:18,613 Speaker 5: The emphasis is very much on the international game for 558 00:29:18,773 --> 00:29:21,653 Speaker 5: the women now, so it's pretty exciting stuff and you'll 559 00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:23,853 Speaker 5: be involved of course as batting coach with the White Fance. 560 00:29:24,133 --> 00:29:25,693 Speaker 8: Yeah, looking forward to it. You're right, it's a bit 561 00:29:25,733 --> 00:29:26,693 Speaker 8: busy twelve months. 562 00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:29,733 Speaker 7: We head to India for a fifty over World Cup 563 00:29:30,653 --> 00:29:35,133 Speaker 7: in late September October. Watch everyone's looking forward to it. 564 00:29:35,133 --> 00:29:38,853 Speaker 7: Will be challenging and yeah, but it's just one of 565 00:29:38,853 --> 00:29:41,373 Speaker 7: those years where I think the home summer we've got 566 00:29:41,493 --> 00:29:44,373 Speaker 7: Zimbabwe who we haven't played, so there'll be a new 567 00:29:44,413 --> 00:29:46,213 Speaker 7: opponent that we haven't seen a lot of in South 568 00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:47,133 Speaker 7: Africa coming out. 569 00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:49,933 Speaker 8: So it's a busy schedule again. 570 00:29:50,013 --> 00:29:52,773 Speaker 7: But yeah, those World Cups seem to roll around a 571 00:29:52,813 --> 00:29:55,333 Speaker 7: lot quicker than what they did in my day was 572 00:29:55,373 --> 00:29:57,293 Speaker 7: that every sort of second year there seems to be 573 00:29:57,293 --> 00:29:59,813 Speaker 7: a World Cup, whether it's T twenty or od I 574 00:29:59,973 --> 00:30:02,853 Speaker 7: where some years gone by it was every four years. 575 00:30:02,853 --> 00:30:06,093 Speaker 7: But I looked, I look at the schedule, and we 576 00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:08,333 Speaker 7: won the World Cup T twenty World Cup last year 577 00:30:09,053 --> 00:30:11,853 Speaker 7: and we're defending it next year in England twenty twenty six. 578 00:30:11,973 --> 00:30:14,653 Speaker 8: So they do roll around rather quickly. 579 00:30:15,373 --> 00:30:17,693 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I suppose that's the top level of the 580 00:30:17,693 --> 00:30:22,093 Speaker 5: game that both the men and the woman will enjoy. 581 00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,453 Speaker 5: And it'll be nice to have the home summer with 582 00:30:24,533 --> 00:30:27,413 Speaker 5: somebody other than England or Australia to play against as well, 583 00:30:27,453 --> 00:30:30,533 Speaker 5: because they've been regular visitors here. Not that there's anything 584 00:30:30,573 --> 00:30:32,653 Speaker 5: wrong with that, but it's nice to see the South 585 00:30:32,693 --> 00:30:36,853 Speaker 5: Africans and and Zimbabwe playing on our shores because it's 586 00:30:36,853 --> 00:30:40,013 Speaker 5: going to be a long white ball summer, particularly after 587 00:30:40,413 --> 00:30:43,933 Speaker 5: Christmas for both the men's and the women's teams. 588 00:30:44,733 --> 00:30:48,293 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's definitely a lack of red bull cricket, which 589 00:30:48,373 --> 00:30:50,173 Speaker 7: I know the New Zealand fans will be a little 590 00:30:50,213 --> 00:30:56,413 Speaker 7: bit disappointed by, but also having South Africa and on 591 00:30:56,493 --> 00:30:58,933 Speaker 7: our shows, White Bull cricket. It will be entertaining. There 592 00:30:58,933 --> 00:31:00,813 Speaker 7: are two very good sides. I'm looking forward to the 593 00:31:00,813 --> 00:31:04,533 Speaker 7: summer ahead and I think New Zealand and the men's 594 00:31:04,533 --> 00:31:06,253 Speaker 7: side have a Tea twenty World Cup in the middle 595 00:31:06,293 --> 00:31:09,493 Speaker 7: of it, don't they so, and we've got I think 596 00:31:09,533 --> 00:31:11,453 Speaker 7: England at the start of the summer, Australia at the 597 00:31:11,493 --> 00:31:14,293 Speaker 7: start of the summer in terms of the men and 598 00:31:14,333 --> 00:31:16,413 Speaker 7: the women will be playing Super Smash as well. 599 00:31:16,493 --> 00:31:19,173 Speaker 8: So a lot of exciting cricket to come up. Again. 600 00:31:19,533 --> 00:31:22,733 Speaker 7: It's a tough schedule that you know, with these World 601 00:31:22,773 --> 00:31:25,853 Speaker 7: Cups that seem to all champions trophy Land in the 602 00:31:25,853 --> 00:31:27,973 Speaker 7: middle of our summer, which makes it difficult for New 603 00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:31,453 Speaker 7: Zealand cricket in the prime time slot of the summer. 604 00:31:31,493 --> 00:31:33,853 Speaker 7: But again we'll have some good sides on our shores 605 00:31:33,853 --> 00:31:34,933 Speaker 7: what you always look forward to. 606 00:31:35,493 --> 00:31:38,933 Speaker 5: Yeah, nice to hear from Macca and I got a 607 00:31:38,973 --> 00:31:42,813 Speaker 5: feeling Jerry that he's going to be an important part 608 00:31:43,293 --> 00:31:46,053 Speaker 5: in the re emergence of this New Zealand women's team. 609 00:31:46,093 --> 00:31:51,293 Speaker 5: I think his coaching ideas, his coaching style is one 610 00:31:51,653 --> 00:31:53,613 Speaker 5: of getting. 611 00:31:53,333 --> 00:31:54,173 Speaker 3: Back to the basics. 612 00:31:55,373 --> 00:31:57,973 Speaker 5: Talking about the t twenties they're going to play well, 613 00:31:57,973 --> 00:32:00,413 Speaker 5: They're going to be a little bit more innovative, but 614 00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:06,373 Speaker 5: solving problems and being able to get the best out 615 00:32:06,373 --> 00:32:10,453 Speaker 5: of themselves by playing than getting out is starting to 616 00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:16,173 Speaker 5: show some good results. And many of these a ladies 617 00:32:16,293 --> 00:32:19,133 Speaker 5: are going to be the White Fans of the future, 618 00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:19,573 Speaker 5: aren't they. 619 00:32:19,973 --> 00:32:22,853 Speaker 4: Look, I'm totally behind. 620 00:32:23,973 --> 00:32:28,293 Speaker 6: What New Zealand Cricket are doing in developing we've got. 621 00:32:28,373 --> 00:32:31,693 Speaker 6: We're putting a lot of work, aren't we. With a 622 00:32:31,693 --> 00:32:34,693 Speaker 6: a teams for the men and now a teams for 623 00:32:34,733 --> 00:32:38,693 Speaker 6: the women. That's fantastic as far as I'm concerned. They 624 00:32:38,733 --> 00:32:42,133 Speaker 6: will all be better for it, and I do feel 625 00:32:42,773 --> 00:32:47,573 Speaker 6: that a player like Craig McMillan has a very important 626 00:32:47,693 --> 00:32:50,013 Speaker 6: role to play in the development of some of those 627 00:32:50,093 --> 00:32:54,213 Speaker 6: younger players. They are going to come through and they're 628 00:32:54,213 --> 00:32:57,253 Speaker 6: going to be better for it. Yes, they're going to 629 00:32:57,413 --> 00:33:01,893 Speaker 6: experience some some difficulties for a while and some losses 630 00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:04,973 Speaker 6: for a while. We've got to take a slightly longer view. 631 00:33:05,093 --> 00:33:08,933 Speaker 6: I think about that he's very aware that we can't 632 00:33:09,013 --> 00:33:12,733 Speaker 6: keep losing forever and that we've got to still have 633 00:33:12,853 --> 00:33:16,453 Speaker 6: victories along the way to sort of sign post that 634 00:33:16,493 --> 00:33:18,493 Speaker 6: we are going in the correct direction. 635 00:33:19,053 --> 00:33:21,493 Speaker 4: So I'm all behind that. 636 00:33:21,613 --> 00:33:24,973 Speaker 6: I don't know whether you feel it's a waste of money, 637 00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,093 Speaker 6: important money from New Zealand cricket. 638 00:33:27,133 --> 00:33:28,853 Speaker 4: I don't think it is. No. 639 00:33:29,293 --> 00:33:31,533 Speaker 5: I think they waste their money in other places, which 640 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,413 Speaker 5: offends me to some extent. But I think when you're 641 00:33:34,453 --> 00:33:38,173 Speaker 5: starting to develop your players, and remember the women's game 642 00:33:38,253 --> 00:33:41,613 Speaker 5: doesn't develop through the grades the way the men do. 643 00:33:41,893 --> 00:33:44,053 Speaker 5: You know, they need to be able to develop it 644 00:33:44,093 --> 00:33:48,773 Speaker 5: at college level, domestic lower level, so that these players 645 00:33:48,933 --> 00:33:52,213 Speaker 5: have a grounding for when they go into the White 646 00:33:52,253 --> 00:33:54,133 Speaker 5: fans or go on the A tours. And you know, 647 00:33:54,213 --> 00:33:57,733 Speaker 5: we're seeing, as we mentioned in that inde with Macca 648 00:33:57,973 --> 00:34:03,253 Speaker 5: plimmer and gaze and Bree illing for sleift arms. I 649 00:34:03,413 --> 00:34:06,493 Speaker 5: love left armers in the bowling attack and I think that, 650 00:34:06,813 --> 00:34:08,493 Speaker 5: you know, she could be a real star of the 651 00:34:08,493 --> 00:34:09,133 Speaker 5: women's game. 652 00:34:09,493 --> 00:34:14,133 Speaker 1: Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the front foot Jerry. 653 00:34:14,213 --> 00:34:16,933 Speaker 5: Just before we go on to a quick look at 654 00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:19,533 Speaker 5: what New Zealand might pick for their test team, I 655 00:34:19,573 --> 00:34:22,413 Speaker 5: was reading one of the English websites at one of 656 00:34:22,453 --> 00:34:30,493 Speaker 5: their contributors wrote about the Australian West Indies game. He said, 657 00:34:30,773 --> 00:34:33,893 Speaker 5: watching the West Indies versus of the convicts over tea 658 00:34:34,693 --> 00:34:37,173 Speaker 5: What is the point of var He's obviously been watching 659 00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:43,533 Speaker 5: a bit too much. It's d RS batsman out w 660 00:34:43,773 --> 00:34:45,813 Speaker 5: W despite clearly enging the ball out of the bat, 661 00:34:46,093 --> 00:34:48,973 Speaker 5: carry caught a magnificent catch behind the stumps. However, on 662 00:34:49,013 --> 00:34:51,053 Speaker 5: the replay was in his glove and on the ground. 663 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:54,453 Speaker 5: Despite looking many times, it went in favor of the Aussies. 664 00:34:54,573 --> 00:34:58,053 Speaker 5: I hope we don't get South afric englumpires in the winter. Yeah, 665 00:34:58,133 --> 00:35:01,053 Speaker 5: well that may be something that they can have a 666 00:35:01,053 --> 00:35:06,533 Speaker 5: look at. We may get them for our next Test 667 00:35:06,573 --> 00:35:09,773 Speaker 5: matches back here at home against the West Indies, but 668 00:35:09,813 --> 00:35:14,373 Speaker 5: before that we've got two Tests in Zimbabwe. Tim Saldi 669 00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:17,053 Speaker 5: won't be there from the last Test team. Devin Conway 670 00:35:17,493 --> 00:35:20,213 Speaker 5: maybe here because he's recovered from injury, but I can't 671 00:35:20,213 --> 00:35:24,373 Speaker 5: see too many new players coming to the forefronts. Who's 672 00:35:24,413 --> 00:35:28,453 Speaker 5: going to replace Southe And you know you don't just 673 00:35:28,653 --> 00:35:30,973 Speaker 5: give people Test caps, do you. They've got to have 674 00:35:31,053 --> 00:35:33,573 Speaker 5: been there and earned their cap and it won't be 675 00:35:33,573 --> 00:35:39,013 Speaker 5: being ceous because he's recovering from injury. I guess Duffy 676 00:35:39,173 --> 00:35:44,173 Speaker 5: Jamison are the most likely contenders for the new Ball 677 00:35:44,333 --> 00:35:44,933 Speaker 5: in that role. 678 00:35:45,613 --> 00:35:48,333 Speaker 6: I can't see too many changes wads either. 679 00:35:50,133 --> 00:35:51,293 Speaker 4: You know, you got a new coach. 680 00:35:53,093 --> 00:35:56,133 Speaker 6: I don't think he will want to take a broom 681 00:35:56,413 --> 00:36:00,213 Speaker 6: and just sweep everything that New Zealand has done before. 682 00:36:01,173 --> 00:36:04,293 Speaker 6: He will want to, I think, see how things go. 683 00:36:06,573 --> 00:36:10,453 Speaker 6: So I don't know what who What was our last test? 684 00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:15,933 Speaker 6: Was it England Test three at Hamilton? Yeah? Well that 685 00:36:16,093 --> 00:36:19,333 Speaker 6: was Young, Lathan Williamson, Ravendra Mitchell. And I can't see 686 00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:22,653 Speaker 6: any of that top order batting changing too much unless 687 00:36:22,653 --> 00:36:24,533 Speaker 6: Conway does come back. 688 00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:29,693 Speaker 3: In Conway, he's done the business. He was injured. 689 00:36:30,173 --> 00:36:32,373 Speaker 5: And you know it's tough on will Young I know, 690 00:36:32,493 --> 00:36:34,413 Speaker 5: I know that. But he's got to be in the squad. 691 00:36:34,413 --> 00:36:36,653 Speaker 5: He's got to be that extra batter in the squad, doesn't. 692 00:36:36,373 --> 00:36:39,093 Speaker 6: He Well, that's right, And and then it's it's a 693 00:36:39,173 --> 00:36:42,533 Speaker 6: question of a little bit of mounting pressure I think 694 00:36:42,573 --> 00:36:46,613 Speaker 6: on Tom Blundell, but you know he hasn't quite got 695 00:36:46,693 --> 00:36:51,013 Speaker 6: the runs he might have liked. And it's just a 696 00:36:51,093 --> 00:36:55,093 Speaker 6: question of how they how they viewing the long term. 697 00:36:55,573 --> 00:36:56,893 Speaker 4: I mean, here what he'll want runs. 698 00:36:56,933 --> 00:36:59,533 Speaker 6: It's as simple as that really, And then it's a 699 00:36:59,613 --> 00:37:03,973 Speaker 6: case of does Santana play I guess you've got braceful 700 00:37:04,213 --> 00:37:06,733 Speaker 6: in the wings there as a one who turns the 701 00:37:06,773 --> 00:37:08,653 Speaker 6: ball a little more than some of the others. 702 00:37:09,053 --> 00:37:10,493 Speaker 4: Ye sat in a different. 703 00:37:10,213 --> 00:37:12,413 Speaker 6: Type of bowler, more of a flight bowler in the 704 00:37:12,453 --> 00:37:17,853 Speaker 6: air before it pictures. Phillip's more of a one day 705 00:37:17,893 --> 00:37:20,333 Speaker 6: bowler angling it into legs, stump a bit. 706 00:37:20,213 --> 00:37:21,333 Speaker 4: More and more flat. 707 00:37:22,133 --> 00:37:26,373 Speaker 6: But Henry obviously, O'Rourke obviously, and then as you say, 708 00:37:27,173 --> 00:37:32,453 Speaker 6: Jamison stands out and Yeah and Duffy are the only 709 00:37:32,773 --> 00:37:35,373 Speaker 6: the only two around really aren't they. I mean, Folks 710 00:37:35,373 --> 00:37:37,933 Speaker 6: has come into the T twenty, but he's more of 711 00:37:37,973 --> 00:37:41,333 Speaker 6: and he's gone into the A side as well to 712 00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:47,453 Speaker 6: to Bangladesh. He's made that that T twenty side to go, 713 00:37:47,653 --> 00:37:50,213 Speaker 6: so they're obviously having a look at that. They like 714 00:37:50,253 --> 00:37:55,773 Speaker 6: his variations, so I can't see too many changes wadds 715 00:37:55,853 --> 00:37:57,533 Speaker 6: for that for that series. 716 00:37:57,773 --> 00:37:58,493 Speaker 3: No, I don't think. 717 00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:01,453 Speaker 5: So we'll know that next week they're in camp apparently 718 00:38:01,693 --> 00:38:05,133 Speaker 5: at Mount Monganui, so they're going to be indoors too, 719 00:38:05,173 --> 00:38:10,973 Speaker 5: because like your territory, Jerry, the weather is at its 720 00:38:11,453 --> 00:38:17,653 Speaker 5: lowest and wettest at the moment, so at your place, so. 721 00:38:17,653 --> 00:38:21,413 Speaker 6: Do I I wasn't there haven't. I wasn't washed away. 722 00:38:23,573 --> 00:38:25,453 Speaker 6: I could, I could get the car. I didn't even 723 00:38:25,493 --> 00:38:27,893 Speaker 6: have a car there I was. I wasn't even blocked 724 00:38:27,893 --> 00:38:30,013 Speaker 6: off in any way at all. So it was fine 725 00:38:30,053 --> 00:38:33,813 Speaker 6: really for me, clearing the roads very well. 726 00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:36,493 Speaker 5: Now, yeah, by the time you get back to to 727 00:38:36,493 --> 00:38:39,893 Speaker 5: get well, we'll hope that'll be the case. Never mind, 728 00:38:39,933 --> 00:38:42,253 Speaker 5: we've been able to track you down. You can actually 729 00:38:42,653 --> 00:38:48,293 Speaker 5: enjoy your Indian summer watching India play England in the 730 00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:51,813 Speaker 5: second Test match and that's going to be pretty fascinating. 731 00:38:51,893 --> 00:38:53,613 Speaker 3: We'll report on. 732 00:38:53,613 --> 00:38:57,573 Speaker 5: That next week and the outcome. Thanks for your time. 733 00:38:57,813 --> 00:39:01,853 Speaker 5: Go back to the Oval, and I hope you enjoy 734 00:39:02,693 --> 00:39:06,293 Speaker 5: the remaining What how many overs do you get? 735 00:39:06,293 --> 00:39:08,253 Speaker 3: One hundred overs a day those games? 736 00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:11,453 Speaker 6: Ninety six, but it might be more on the last day, 737 00:39:11,533 --> 00:39:12,813 Speaker 6: mightn't it. Who knows? 738 00:39:13,053 --> 00:39:16,813 Speaker 5: Yeah, well so yeah, no, look at it. 739 00:39:18,493 --> 00:39:21,493 Speaker 6: It's kind of the coaches are also just sending a 740 00:39:21,533 --> 00:39:25,093 Speaker 6: message to people like Rob p who've tried this experiment 741 00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:28,893 Speaker 6: with the kookobarraball. It hasn't worked in England, and it's 742 00:39:29,013 --> 00:39:31,533 Speaker 6: kind of they've got four games out of fourteen. It's 743 00:39:31,733 --> 00:39:34,453 Speaker 6: and I think the feeling generally from over here is 744 00:39:34,493 --> 00:39:39,053 Speaker 6: that they might be ruining the actual tournament and the 745 00:39:39,173 --> 00:39:43,973 Speaker 6: championship that they're playing. So they're a bit cheesed off 746 00:39:44,333 --> 00:39:48,253 Speaker 6: actually with the way that you know it's ostensibly it's 747 00:39:48,293 --> 00:39:52,093 Speaker 6: meant to improve bowlers for the England side. Well, of 748 00:39:52,093 --> 00:39:53,973 Speaker 6: course none of the England bowlers are here in the 749 00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:58,893 Speaker 6: championship anyway, so it's rather ironic that none of the 750 00:39:59,493 --> 00:40:01,733 Speaker 6: England bowlers are using it so. 751 00:40:02,613 --> 00:40:04,213 Speaker 3: And they wouldn't want to anyway. 752 00:40:05,093 --> 00:40:07,813 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's a bit weird. 753 00:40:08,413 --> 00:40:10,293 Speaker 5: Well that's the challenge they're going to face for the 754 00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,053 Speaker 5: remainder of the series as well. 755 00:40:12,093 --> 00:40:12,733 Speaker 3: Going enjoy it. 756 00:40:12,853 --> 00:40:16,453 Speaker 5: Stay on the front foot, Jerry, and you really hammer 757 00:40:16,533 --> 00:40:17,653 Speaker 5: them over the boundary. 758 00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:22,693 Speaker 6: Rope as I always used to neirdling another little single 759 00:40:22,693 --> 00:40:24,693 Speaker 6: of an inside edge onto my pad. 760 00:40:26,613 --> 00:40:29,053 Speaker 4: Exactly. All right mate, nice to hear from you. You 761 00:40:29,133 --> 00:40:30,373 Speaker 4: look at it well, take care. 762 00:40:30,693 --> 00:40:34,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, summer. 763 00:40:40,973 --> 00:40:43,893 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks B listen live on air 764 00:40:44,093 --> 00:40:46,813 Speaker 1: or online and keep our shows with you wherever you 765 00:40:46,853 --> 00:40:49,293 Speaker 1: go with our podcasts on IR Radio