1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from news Talk said, be. 3 00:00:13,933 --> 00:00:15,973 Speaker 2: You're taking off your shoes, she. 4 00:00:17,773 --> 00:00:23,893 Speaker 1: Yielder, Sonny is she pretty? And she was only Anna? 5 00:00:23,933 --> 00:00:31,493 Speaker 1: And are your conversations called gure you even interesting? Tell 6 00:00:31,573 --> 00:00:35,973 Speaker 1: me if she takes you far, far a boy, from 7 00:00:36,053 --> 00:00:40,653 Speaker 1: all the baggage you've been carry a better. This is 8 00:00:41,093 --> 00:00:45,333 Speaker 1: Gracie Abrams. That song is called Blowing Smoke. She just 9 00:00:45,493 --> 00:00:48,493 Speaker 1: released a second album, it's called The Secret of Us, 10 00:00:48,813 --> 00:00:51,493 Speaker 1: and our music review at Stelle Clifford has been taking 11 00:00:51,533 --> 00:00:52,293 Speaker 1: a bit of a lesson. 12 00:00:52,493 --> 00:00:55,573 Speaker 2: Hey, Stelle killed her morning I had Blonde Smoke's actually 13 00:00:55,613 --> 00:00:56,253 Speaker 2: one of my faves. 14 00:00:56,293 --> 00:00:59,453 Speaker 3: And she describes it as catchy, said girl stuff. 15 00:00:59,853 --> 00:01:01,333 Speaker 1: Which is kind of like her in general. 16 00:01:01,453 --> 00:01:04,733 Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, no, no, no, no, no, totally yeah, 17 00:01:04,893 --> 00:01:06,973 Speaker 3: like Billie eilash Fobe and. 18 00:01:07,973 --> 00:01:10,333 Speaker 1: That is it cool for me to be like, you know, 19 00:01:10,413 --> 00:01:12,413 Speaker 1: there's a kind of a thing at the moment with like, 20 00:01:12,573 --> 00:01:15,333 Speaker 1: you know, young female musicians with beautiful voices making kind 21 00:01:15,373 --> 00:01:16,893 Speaker 1: of whispery music in their bedrooms. 22 00:01:17,373 --> 00:01:18,653 Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what it is. 23 00:01:18,693 --> 00:01:21,213 Speaker 2: And you know, she actually says Gracie says she didn't 24 00:01:21,493 --> 00:01:24,253 Speaker 2: she always wrote music and she always wanted to do music, 25 00:01:24,333 --> 00:01:26,613 Speaker 2: but she didn't want to do the performance side of things, right, 26 00:01:27,053 --> 00:01:29,133 Speaker 2: so that you kind of get that whole pop girl 27 00:01:29,213 --> 00:01:31,253 Speaker 2: in the bedroom, which is actually how she first did 28 00:01:31,253 --> 00:01:35,133 Speaker 2: her first concerts. During Lockdown, one hundred people online watching 29 00:01:35,213 --> 00:01:35,773 Speaker 2: her performance. 30 00:01:36,413 --> 00:01:37,813 Speaker 3: He's become a bit of a sort of cliche. 31 00:01:38,373 --> 00:01:40,893 Speaker 2: It has, and you know it's generational, though, isn't it, 32 00:01:40,933 --> 00:01:43,773 Speaker 2: because that's how they've come through the ranks. They couldn't 33 00:01:43,813 --> 00:01:45,493 Speaker 2: go and tour their music, which she said she was 34 00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:47,933 Speaker 2: grateful for because that's the one thing. Signing a record 35 00:01:48,013 --> 00:01:50,893 Speaker 2: deal she wasn't into. So I don't really want to do. 36 00:01:50,973 --> 00:01:54,373 Speaker 1: That, but the only way to make money now, Well. 37 00:01:54,613 --> 00:01:56,973 Speaker 3: Then you get packed up by Taylor Swift to open. 38 00:01:58,493 --> 00:02:00,333 Speaker 2: And I feel like you kind of say yes to that, 39 00:02:00,813 --> 00:02:03,773 Speaker 2: and you go from one hundred people online watching you too. 40 00:02:04,133 --> 00:02:06,293 Speaker 3: I don't even know like how many people have stayed. 41 00:02:06,293 --> 00:02:07,093 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. 42 00:02:07,613 --> 00:02:09,653 Speaker 2: This album is interesting for her and I think you know, 43 00:02:09,773 --> 00:02:12,173 Speaker 2: she is evolving as a musician, but it's definitely more 44 00:02:12,293 --> 00:02:15,773 Speaker 2: poptastic than probably some of her other stuff that people 45 00:02:15,853 --> 00:02:20,173 Speaker 2: might have heard from. Gracie definitely influenced by Phoebe Bridges, 46 00:02:20,253 --> 00:02:22,773 Speaker 2: Johnny Mitchell, all those kind of artists, which is which 47 00:02:22,853 --> 00:02:25,373 Speaker 2: is cool to cover a few decades of music, But 48 00:02:25,573 --> 00:02:27,893 Speaker 2: this one, I would say, if you think Taylor Swift 49 00:02:28,053 --> 00:02:32,093 Speaker 2: slash Olivia Rodrigo, that you're right on the money. And 50 00:02:32,173 --> 00:02:34,573 Speaker 2: I think she even has that that kind of voice 51 00:02:34,653 --> 00:02:37,733 Speaker 2: that sort of matches that too. Probably no surprise that 52 00:02:37,813 --> 00:02:41,653 Speaker 2: she has a single collaboration with Taylor Swift on this album, 53 00:02:43,413 --> 00:02:45,573 Speaker 2: which just completely sounds Taylor Swift to me. 54 00:02:47,733 --> 00:02:50,093 Speaker 3: Like if it was on Taylor's album. This is a 55 00:02:50,373 --> 00:02:51,533 Speaker 3: yeah yeah Again. 56 00:02:51,653 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 2: She's also used the same producers, so Aaron Desner is 57 00:02:54,853 --> 00:02:59,253 Speaker 2: on it, Jack Antonoff, Taylor's producer on this as well, 58 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:03,293 Speaker 2: and I think they're just trying to make her honer craft. 59 00:03:03,413 --> 00:03:07,173 Speaker 2: I guess that maybe is quite universal, yes right, yeah, 60 00:03:07,253 --> 00:03:09,373 Speaker 2: right yeah, And if that is the business woman of 61 00:03:09,453 --> 00:03:13,333 Speaker 2: Tata behind you promoting your music, then I guess go 62 00:03:13,453 --> 00:03:13,653 Speaker 2: for it. 63 00:03:15,293 --> 00:03:16,973 Speaker 3: So way more slick and production. 64 00:03:17,173 --> 00:03:19,533 Speaker 2: You've still got that girl and her guitar kind of 65 00:03:19,653 --> 00:03:23,093 Speaker 2: those moments too, and a little bit of that rock 66 00:03:23,973 --> 00:03:26,613 Speaker 2: sort of undertone to some of the pot but mostly 67 00:03:26,853 --> 00:03:30,333 Speaker 2: like just full go there, like you say, wistful, dreamy, 68 00:03:31,293 --> 00:03:32,813 Speaker 2: but then every now and then a bit of a 69 00:03:33,373 --> 00:03:37,053 Speaker 2: bit of a jam, right, So, but I think the 70 00:03:37,453 --> 00:03:39,773 Speaker 2: catchy said girl thing is like just a great way 71 00:03:39,813 --> 00:03:42,613 Speaker 2: to sort of go there. A song you're going to 72 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:45,453 Speaker 2: play in a few minutes close to you. That's the 73 00:03:45,533 --> 00:03:48,373 Speaker 2: final track on the album. It is, it's the most 74 00:03:48,853 --> 00:03:52,093 Speaker 2: closest to going to the dance floor with the tunes. 75 00:03:51,853 --> 00:03:52,373 Speaker 3: She's got on this. 76 00:03:52,853 --> 00:03:52,973 Speaker 1: Right. 77 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:56,053 Speaker 2: She actually wrote it like several years ago, didn't really 78 00:03:56,253 --> 00:03:59,013 Speaker 2: like it, gave a little teaser on social media, and 79 00:03:59,053 --> 00:04:02,213 Speaker 2: then ever since like seven years or something, right, been 80 00:04:02,293 --> 00:04:03,333 Speaker 2: like what is that song? 81 00:04:03,773 --> 00:04:05,853 Speaker 3: When are you going to go there? You hand it 82 00:04:05,893 --> 00:04:07,573 Speaker 3: over to some one like AARONNNR and he's like, that 83 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:08,653 Speaker 3: is where you should go with it. 84 00:04:09,093 --> 00:04:11,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's finally here and it actually ties in 85 00:04:11,893 --> 00:04:14,533 Speaker 2: with the album and gives her one of those singles 86 00:04:14,613 --> 00:04:17,893 Speaker 2: to advertise the album quite well, I think, right considering 87 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:19,973 Speaker 2: she's about to do a headline tour and do some 88 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:22,253 Speaker 2: festivals and things, it's right. 89 00:04:22,253 --> 00:04:22,773 Speaker 3: Kind of song. 90 00:04:22,853 --> 00:04:24,853 Speaker 2: It's a real jam, you know, like makes you want 91 00:04:24,853 --> 00:04:27,133 Speaker 2: to dance, And I think that's really cool still sometimes 92 00:04:27,173 --> 00:04:29,893 Speaker 2: with those melancholy lyrics that we kind of love of 93 00:04:29,973 --> 00:04:30,693 Speaker 2: said good music. 94 00:04:30,853 --> 00:04:34,933 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, she's good. I think she's good. I 95 00:04:34,973 --> 00:04:35,493 Speaker 3: think she's good. 96 00:04:35,493 --> 00:04:38,693 Speaker 2: I think that when she finds what else to evolve 97 00:04:38,813 --> 00:04:40,413 Speaker 2: her music, or if she's going to stay in this 98 00:04:40,533 --> 00:04:44,253 Speaker 2: pop line, then she will evolve. I think as an artist. 99 00:04:44,453 --> 00:04:46,573 Speaker 2: She's twenty four or whatever, right, so plenty of time. 100 00:04:48,613 --> 00:04:51,013 Speaker 1: For some Yeah, well kind of the best team, get 101 00:04:51,013 --> 00:04:53,533 Speaker 1: the best team behind her now as well. Yeah, it 102 00:04:53,973 --> 00:04:54,973 Speaker 1: sounds sounds pretty good. 103 00:04:55,373 --> 00:04:57,533 Speaker 2: Look, it's a nice lesson. I don't know if it's 104 00:04:57,533 --> 00:05:00,173 Speaker 2: something that's going to be in my high collection. Doesn't 105 00:05:00,253 --> 00:05:01,173 Speaker 2: it doesn't challenge you? 106 00:05:01,373 --> 00:05:03,573 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, want to challenge you. I'm not trying 107 00:05:03,573 --> 00:05:05,333 Speaker 1: to be too critical because I haven't had enough of 108 00:05:05,373 --> 00:05:07,373 Speaker 1: the album yet, but always going to have opinions on 109 00:05:07,413 --> 00:05:09,493 Speaker 1: things you don't know about. So, I mean, it just 110 00:05:09,573 --> 00:05:14,533 Speaker 1: feels like maybe we're maximum sad, whispery young woman in 111 00:05:14,613 --> 00:05:15,093 Speaker 1: the bedroom. 112 00:05:15,533 --> 00:05:16,933 Speaker 3: Where do we need a change? Now? Right? 113 00:05:17,133 --> 00:05:18,693 Speaker 2: We've we've kind of done that, and we've heard a 114 00:05:18,693 --> 00:05:19,853 Speaker 2: lot of it, and every time I bring you a 115 00:05:19,893 --> 00:05:22,413 Speaker 2: pop artist, I feel like I'm saying quite a similar. 116 00:05:22,133 --> 00:05:22,573 Speaker 3: Sort of thing. 117 00:05:22,933 --> 00:05:24,813 Speaker 1: Yeah, well here yeah, yeah. 118 00:05:24,773 --> 00:05:27,493 Speaker 2: So it's something that's obviously working for them to perform 119 00:05:27,573 --> 00:05:30,053 Speaker 2: it and also to sell it. Yeah, Okay, so I 120 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:32,373 Speaker 2: get that, but I think that there's an evolution for her. 121 00:05:32,493 --> 00:05:34,933 Speaker 2: She hasn't quite cracked that album that you're like, whoa, 122 00:05:35,053 --> 00:05:38,133 Speaker 2: this is her signature sound and her signature album. 123 00:05:38,413 --> 00:05:41,333 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, but there's time the secret of 124 00:05:41,413 --> 00:05:46,213 Speaker 1: Us for Gracie Abrams. Okay, listened to Have you listened 125 00:05:46,253 --> 00:05:48,533 Speaker 1: to the Have you heard the Lord Charlie Seek song? 126 00:05:48,933 --> 00:05:49,173 Speaker 3: Yeah? 127 00:05:49,413 --> 00:05:49,893 Speaker 1: What do you think? 128 00:05:50,653 --> 00:05:53,173 Speaker 2: I'm on the fence about it, So I'm yeah, yeah, 129 00:05:54,373 --> 00:05:58,813 Speaker 2: that's right. First to come back and just do her stuff, right, 130 00:05:58,933 --> 00:05:59,813 Speaker 2: so we will come. 131 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:01,493 Speaker 1: Back and do your stuff when she wants. Yeah, I'm 132 00:06:01,533 --> 00:06:03,013 Speaker 1: sure right. 133 00:06:03,093 --> 00:06:04,133 Speaker 3: And dog, isn't that power? 134 00:06:04,253 --> 00:06:06,573 Speaker 1: Like I love that totally. But I mean I've only 135 00:06:06,653 --> 00:06:07,973 Speaker 1: listened to it a couple of times. I saw it 136 00:06:08,013 --> 00:06:10,213 Speaker 1: have been released head bit of a listen, Yeah, yeah, 137 00:06:10,373 --> 00:06:13,533 Speaker 1: I mean here is more Charlie xcy xtend is Lord 138 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:13,893 Speaker 1: in a way? 139 00:06:14,413 --> 00:06:16,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess we're looking at it being like, yes, 140 00:06:16,533 --> 00:06:18,413 Speaker 2: Lord's back, but actually nope, she's. 141 00:06:18,333 --> 00:06:21,133 Speaker 3: Doing that co lab thing, which she's not pushing herself 142 00:06:21,173 --> 00:06:24,013 Speaker 3: to the forefront. So yeah, we'll wait, Katie Pie will wait. 143 00:06:24,253 --> 00:06:26,493 Speaker 1: Very good. Thank you so much, Stelle. 144 00:06:26,653 --> 00:06:27,573 Speaker 3: We will talk to you again. 145 00:06:27,613 --> 00:06:30,013 Speaker 1: Next week. Caste Cliffe is our music reviewer, seven out 146 00:06:30,053 --> 00:06:32,533 Speaker 1: of ten, she Reckons Gate, Gracie Abrams, The Secret of 147 00:06:32,693 --> 00:06:34,333 Speaker 1: Us is Worth. We've picked out one of the bang 148 00:06:34,373 --> 00:06:35,853 Speaker 1: of songs though, so we'll play that in a couple 149 00:06:35,893 --> 00:06:39,173 Speaker 1: of minutes. For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 150 00:06:39,413 --> 00:06:42,533 Speaker 1: Listen live to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, 151 00:06:42,813 --> 00:06:44,853 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.