1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,695 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:12,455 Speaker 1: from News talks'b. 3 00:00:12,895 --> 00:00:14,735 Speaker 2: Right, bit of a mad rush at the end of 4 00:00:15,215 --> 00:00:18,695 Speaker 2: the last hour and that's my inability to read time. 5 00:00:19,255 --> 00:00:22,455 Speaker 2: So my thanks to Mark Roberts from Auckland Council for 6 00:00:22,655 --> 00:00:26,655 Speaker 2: joining us. And one of the things that we will 7 00:00:26,695 --> 00:00:27,975 Speaker 2: probably get them back on have a bit of a 8 00:00:28,015 --> 00:00:30,575 Speaker 2: chat about this is a team that they have that 9 00:00:30,735 --> 00:00:36,015 Speaker 2: actually actively go out and visit sites, talk to contractors 10 00:00:36,375 --> 00:00:39,095 Speaker 2: and so on about how they're managing their waste and 11 00:00:39,375 --> 00:00:41,335 Speaker 2: so on, which is a great initiative. And of course 12 00:00:41,655 --> 00:00:45,215 Speaker 2: Auckland Council, like most councils around the country, also administer 13 00:00:45,295 --> 00:00:48,815 Speaker 2: community recycling schemes which are really great. There are awesome 14 00:00:49,055 --> 00:00:53,255 Speaker 2: organizations you know, around the corner from you in many 15 00:00:53,295 --> 00:00:55,815 Speaker 2: cases that do a tremendous amount of work. I also 16 00:00:55,895 --> 00:01:01,775 Speaker 2: mentioned as part of our discussion last week waste tub 17 00:01:01,935 --> 00:01:04,895 Speaker 2: dot co dot nz is a great resource. The other 18 00:01:04,935 --> 00:01:10,615 Speaker 2: thing to do is to just simply google brands waste 19 00:01:11,055 --> 00:01:14,775 Speaker 2: or brand's resource Recovery map so b r a n 20 00:01:14,975 --> 00:01:18,615 Speaker 2: Z recovery map and then anywhere you are in the 21 00:01:18,655 --> 00:01:20,895 Speaker 2: country you just type in what you've got that you 22 00:01:21,015 --> 00:01:23,375 Speaker 2: want to dispose of and it'll tell you where to 23 00:01:23,415 --> 00:01:27,495 Speaker 2: go in the nicest possible way, which is awesome. Righty Oh, Now, 24 00:01:27,615 --> 00:01:31,255 Speaker 2: slight change to the plan today because we've got a 25 00:01:31,255 --> 00:01:33,975 Speaker 2: pretty important match between the abs and island that are 26 00:01:33,975 --> 00:01:36,335 Speaker 2: made of Mine's actually sitting in the crowd in Chicago 27 00:01:36,375 --> 00:01:40,335 Speaker 2: at the moment. Commentary begins at eight point thirty, so 28 00:01:40,415 --> 00:01:43,455 Speaker 2: we've got Rud. We've woken them up extra early. Get 29 00:01:43,495 --> 00:01:46,415 Speaker 2: them here just after eight o'clock. We'll talk all things 30 00:01:47,015 --> 00:01:50,175 Speaker 2: gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as well. Rud, 31 00:01:50,255 --> 00:01:54,495 Speaker 2: Can I jump in and go? How freaked out should 32 00:01:54,535 --> 00:01:58,255 Speaker 2: we be about this yellow legged hornet that seems to 33 00:01:58,295 --> 00:02:03,975 Speaker 2: have taken up occupation in well Auckland At this stage. 34 00:02:05,215 --> 00:02:08,215 Speaker 3: I'd bit get. I'm not too happy with these guys, 35 00:02:08,255 --> 00:02:11,135 Speaker 3: by the way, Peter. I've seen them around in Japan 36 00:02:11,455 --> 00:02:15,495 Speaker 3: and places like Indonesia, so no sense of humor. They 37 00:02:16,815 --> 00:02:20,095 Speaker 3: will go for anything that they don't like. They'll eat bees, 38 00:02:21,095 --> 00:02:23,615 Speaker 3: and that, of course gives the bee keeping industry quite 39 00:02:23,655 --> 00:02:26,375 Speaker 3: a bit of a No. It's not good. And I 40 00:02:26,415 --> 00:02:28,215 Speaker 3: am not sure where we are with the numbers at 41 00:02:28,215 --> 00:02:31,335 Speaker 3: the moment, because i've been actually I'm about a kilometer 42 00:02:31,415 --> 00:02:33,175 Speaker 3: away from you, and I tried to get to the studio, 43 00:02:33,215 --> 00:02:36,015 Speaker 3: but it wouldn't work for me because I'm working with 44 00:02:36,135 --> 00:02:37,695 Speaker 3: guess what Auckland Council. 45 00:02:38,335 --> 00:02:41,375 Speaker 2: Really Okay, well we just did mark from council on before. 46 00:02:41,415 --> 00:02:42,015 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 47 00:02:42,095 --> 00:02:45,615 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. We're doing a predator free HUI 48 00:02:45,855 --> 00:02:48,615 Speaker 3: all day to day talking about how to catch all 49 00:02:48,615 --> 00:02:51,335 Speaker 3: the Nazis, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And it's 50 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:54,095 Speaker 3: going to be a stunning day with all the people 51 00:02:54,135 --> 00:02:57,495 Speaker 3: that have subscribed to coming here today. But anyway, come 52 00:02:57,495 --> 00:03:01,295 Speaker 3: back to that that hornet, no not good, big thing. 53 00:03:03,015 --> 00:03:05,895 Speaker 3: I hope we can we can still be on the 54 00:03:05,895 --> 00:03:08,695 Speaker 3: top of the numbers. Are the numbers at the moment? 55 00:03:10,575 --> 00:03:15,735 Speaker 2: Something about yeah and yeah A couple yesterday or in 56 00:03:15,775 --> 00:03:18,215 Speaker 2: the last few days. What I what I wanted to 57 00:03:18,255 --> 00:03:20,815 Speaker 2: ask you about is that you know online and I 58 00:03:20,855 --> 00:03:23,775 Speaker 2: know social media. You know, got to be a bit 59 00:03:23,775 --> 00:03:26,855 Speaker 2: cautious about taking advice from social media. A couple of 60 00:03:26,895 --> 00:03:31,135 Speaker 2: people have suggested that there's like something that we can 61 00:03:31,295 --> 00:03:35,135 Speaker 2: do if we're and there's these little homemade traps with 62 00:03:35,175 --> 00:03:38,015 Speaker 2: a certain type of material in them that will attract 63 00:03:38,015 --> 00:03:40,775 Speaker 2: the hornets and that sort of thing. Is there any validity, 64 00:03:40,895 --> 00:03:44,495 Speaker 2: Is there anything that I can do or anyone in 65 00:03:44,495 --> 00:03:47,535 Speaker 2: Auckland can do to try and be active in terms 66 00:03:47,615 --> 00:03:51,575 Speaker 2: of trapping them and capturing and killing them basically. 67 00:03:52,895 --> 00:03:56,535 Speaker 3: Well, to be quite honest, I suppose I could do it, 68 00:03:56,575 --> 00:03:59,455 Speaker 3: because I've done things like this before, you know, as 69 00:03:59,495 --> 00:04:03,215 Speaker 3: an entomologist. But I would say, be very very careful, 70 00:04:03,255 --> 00:04:05,655 Speaker 3: don't buck around, and really the first thing you really 71 00:04:05,695 --> 00:04:09,335 Speaker 3: need to do is just get hold of MPI and 72 00:04:09,415 --> 00:04:11,255 Speaker 3: see if they could come out. They've got a good 73 00:04:11,295 --> 00:04:14,575 Speaker 3: team of people that will come and get rid of 74 00:04:14,575 --> 00:04:17,935 Speaker 3: this little rotter. You know. You know what I'm like 75 00:04:18,055 --> 00:04:21,975 Speaker 3: with having a bit of a joke about doing wasps 76 00:04:22,015 --> 00:04:25,215 Speaker 3: and that sort of stuff at night. Somebody holds the torch, 77 00:04:25,575 --> 00:04:28,015 Speaker 3: you run to the wasp, You toss it quickly into 78 00:04:28,055 --> 00:04:30,495 Speaker 3: a bag, put it in the freezer, and you've got it. 79 00:04:30,735 --> 00:04:33,375 Speaker 3: But if something goes wrong, of course the wasps or 80 00:04:33,455 --> 00:04:35,415 Speaker 3: the hornets will go to the person with the torch 81 00:04:35,455 --> 00:04:43,135 Speaker 3: in their hand. You got it, So I wouldn't. I 82 00:04:43,935 --> 00:04:49,855 Speaker 3: wouldn't do that people, No, But honestly. 83 00:04:49,575 --> 00:04:52,335 Speaker 2: That really surprised me that as I saw a photograph 84 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:54,535 Speaker 2: for the first time of the nest that the queen 85 00:04:54,575 --> 00:04:57,455 Speaker 2: makes and and it's it can be as large as 86 00:04:57,455 --> 00:04:58,135 Speaker 2: a tennis ball. 87 00:04:59,335 --> 00:05:03,095 Speaker 3: Yep, that's right. Whereas the paper wasp has got i know, 88 00:05:03,495 --> 00:05:06,095 Speaker 3: the German wash it's got one that is probably the 89 00:05:06,615 --> 00:05:09,495 Speaker 3: a goldful is that? 90 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:10,215 Speaker 4: Yeah? 91 00:05:10,255 --> 00:05:14,415 Speaker 3: And that means that is how the female basically gets 92 00:05:14,455 --> 00:05:19,135 Speaker 3: the first brood going of say twenty or thirty new 93 00:05:19,495 --> 00:05:24,295 Speaker 3: waspirits that will then help to set up the big colony. 94 00:05:24,615 --> 00:05:29,775 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But I mean we've all seen them, you know, 95 00:05:29,895 --> 00:05:31,895 Speaker 2: tucked under the eve and that sort of thing, or 96 00:05:31,935 --> 00:05:33,775 Speaker 2: somewhere earlier in the middle of a tree. You come 97 00:05:33,815 --> 00:05:38,775 Speaker 2: across these paper wasps and German wasp nests. But this 98 00:05:38,975 --> 00:05:44,495 Speaker 2: red or this yellow legged hornet, it's actually it's a 99 00:05:44,535 --> 00:05:49,855 Speaker 2: beautiful piece of architecture in a sense, but quite identifiable, 100 00:05:49,895 --> 00:05:51,695 Speaker 2: isn't it. So that's what people should be looking out 101 00:05:51,695 --> 00:05:52,255 Speaker 2: for as well. 102 00:05:52,775 --> 00:05:55,535 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a bit bigger than the normal world 103 00:05:55,855 --> 00:05:58,335 Speaker 3: that we always know, and you'll pick it. It's of 104 00:05:58,335 --> 00:06:01,895 Speaker 3: course dark in color, but it's got very bright ends 105 00:06:01,935 --> 00:06:04,655 Speaker 3: of their legs. All six legs have got nice yellow 106 00:06:04,695 --> 00:06:07,335 Speaker 3: bits at the end. You can see that from quite 107 00:06:07,335 --> 00:06:10,575 Speaker 3: a way away. They also probably will make it I 108 00:06:10,575 --> 00:06:12,855 Speaker 3: would say. What I remember is they were quite noisy, 109 00:06:13,175 --> 00:06:16,335 Speaker 3: especially when you came across them. You can hear them 110 00:06:16,455 --> 00:06:20,615 Speaker 3: kind of you know, going, and a lot more than wasps. 111 00:06:20,935 --> 00:06:24,335 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, okay, well, eyes open and if you 112 00:06:24,375 --> 00:06:25,855 Speaker 2: see it or you think you see it, get in 113 00:06:25,895 --> 00:06:26,615 Speaker 2: touch with the mp I. 114 00:06:28,015 --> 00:06:29,535 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so one. 115 00:06:29,735 --> 00:06:33,695 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. Let's uh hello, Faye, 116 00:06:33,695 --> 00:06:34,575 Speaker 2: how are you this morning? 117 00:06:35,295 --> 00:06:37,415 Speaker 3: I'm good, thank you and I'm very well. 118 00:06:37,575 --> 00:06:40,615 Speaker 2: Now can I just check? Can you hear faye? 119 00:06:41,575 --> 00:06:42,095 Speaker 4: Ah? 120 00:06:42,215 --> 00:06:44,935 Speaker 2: Now, what's happened here? Why have I not been able 121 00:06:44,975 --> 00:06:49,735 Speaker 2: to conference you guys? Right, I'll tell you what. Let's 122 00:06:50,095 --> 00:06:52,415 Speaker 2: until the break. Let's do it this way, Faye. If 123 00:06:52,415 --> 00:06:54,295 Speaker 2: you ask the question and then I'll put rude back 124 00:06:54,335 --> 00:06:55,895 Speaker 2: on to to give a response. 125 00:06:56,495 --> 00:07:00,495 Speaker 5: Go for it, Fai. I have several conifers through you, 126 00:07:00,775 --> 00:07:04,375 Speaker 5: some mag and I have just discovered in them a 127 00:07:04,815 --> 00:07:10,095 Speaker 5: moth which once I contacted mister Google, it looks like 128 00:07:10,215 --> 00:07:15,535 Speaker 5: it's called gregarious to night and I want to know 129 00:07:16,015 --> 00:07:16,975 Speaker 5: how I get rid of it? 130 00:07:17,055 --> 00:07:17,775 Speaker 6: What spray? 131 00:07:18,415 --> 00:07:21,455 Speaker 5: Is there a particular insecticide that I should use? 132 00:07:21,575 --> 00:07:21,655 Speaker 3: It? 133 00:07:21,855 --> 00:07:25,095 Speaker 5: As if somebody has thrown a mud petty at the 134 00:07:25,135 --> 00:07:26,575 Speaker 5: tree and it's woven. 135 00:07:26,775 --> 00:07:29,775 Speaker 3: It's just killing the trees. Wow, I need to know. 136 00:07:30,095 --> 00:07:35,015 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, you can hear phase questions. 137 00:07:35,335 --> 00:07:38,215 Speaker 3: I perfectly can hear it. Yeah, here we go. Pay 138 00:07:38,335 --> 00:07:42,055 Speaker 3: This is the gregarious Tenuus is one of those things 139 00:07:42,055 --> 00:07:46,855 Speaker 3: that literally makes with numbers of catabullus starts to chew 140 00:07:47,295 --> 00:07:51,975 Speaker 3: your your plants. Now, literally any insecticides will do. I 141 00:07:52,055 --> 00:07:54,455 Speaker 3: remember prinstans. What have you got with when and forget 142 00:07:55,015 --> 00:07:59,775 Speaker 3: the one you use for? For what you've got us for? 143 00:08:01,015 --> 00:08:01,135 Speaker 1: Uh? 144 00:08:01,695 --> 00:08:10,055 Speaker 3: What do you what about? I've forgotten. It's the thing 145 00:08:10,175 --> 00:08:15,495 Speaker 3: that does the pictures that make the webs. What do 146 00:08:15,575 --> 00:08:19,335 Speaker 3: you call the web things? Spiders? You know, spiders and 147 00:08:19,375 --> 00:08:21,815 Speaker 3: things like that. Yeah, yeah, so sorry, I've just think 148 00:08:22,375 --> 00:08:24,055 Speaker 3: but there there was a cool name for it that 149 00:08:24,095 --> 00:08:26,415 Speaker 3: I've forgotten. The name, it doesn't matter. But if you 150 00:08:26,455 --> 00:08:29,695 Speaker 3: get that spider stuff and you spray that into your tree, 151 00:08:29,895 --> 00:08:32,775 Speaker 3: you will get rid of them. It's as simple as that. Also, 152 00:08:33,015 --> 00:08:36,575 Speaker 3: there are other spider materials or other insecticides that you 153 00:08:36,615 --> 00:08:40,935 Speaker 3: can use because they contain prometron that will work really well. 154 00:08:41,215 --> 00:08:44,415 Speaker 3: And talking about prometron, you can get some of the 155 00:08:44,815 --> 00:08:47,775 Speaker 3: by retroid things that we use on aircraft by safe 156 00:08:47,815 --> 00:08:51,335 Speaker 3: works safe works with an X they would work too 157 00:08:51,375 --> 00:08:53,975 Speaker 3: if you get an aerosol. How many of those trees 158 00:08:54,015 --> 00:08:56,015 Speaker 3: do you have their faith about? 159 00:08:56,055 --> 00:08:56,295 Speaker 4: Ten? 160 00:08:57,695 --> 00:09:00,015 Speaker 3: Okay, oh that's a lot. Now you better get something 161 00:09:00,055 --> 00:09:02,575 Speaker 3: that is that that'll that'll go for the long row? 162 00:09:03,255 --> 00:09:07,015 Speaker 3: Do it once? Doo, second time, say about three weeks later. 163 00:09:08,095 --> 00:09:10,015 Speaker 5: And do I have to sort of open up those 164 00:09:10,055 --> 00:09:16,175 Speaker 5: little mud petties as such, because the aunted caterpillar is totally. 165 00:09:16,015 --> 00:09:19,975 Speaker 3: Entwined in them. I know, I know, but the problem is, 166 00:09:20,095 --> 00:09:22,375 Speaker 3: of course that you to do that one by one 167 00:09:22,495 --> 00:09:24,695 Speaker 3: is a bit tricky. But if you made those things 168 00:09:24,735 --> 00:09:28,615 Speaker 3: wet with the insecticides, you'll find that that particular caterpillar 169 00:09:28,935 --> 00:09:31,735 Speaker 3: and will not stand stand exactly. 170 00:09:32,815 --> 00:09:36,335 Speaker 2: Thanks really, thank you very much for that. We'll just 171 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:37,775 Speaker 2: take a short break because we've got a couple of 172 00:09:37,775 --> 00:09:40,855 Speaker 2: ads to get through before the commentary, which will begin 173 00:09:41,015 --> 00:09:46,415 Speaker 2: at around eight thirty this morning. All Blackspy Ireland coming 174 00:09:46,495 --> 00:09:49,495 Speaker 2: up soon. Ruder is with us. Not much time today 175 00:09:49,495 --> 00:09:51,655 Speaker 2: because we have the rugby coming up. But Berry, you 176 00:09:51,655 --> 00:09:52,535 Speaker 2: want to talk about. 177 00:09:52,295 --> 00:09:55,975 Speaker 3: The wasps before we go to the wash? Well, just 178 00:09:56,015 --> 00:09:58,575 Speaker 3: before I wanted to talk to Barry, but you know why, 179 00:09:58,615 --> 00:10:01,695 Speaker 3: I couldn't remember that name of Wedn't forget it was 180 00:10:01,775 --> 00:10:09,055 Speaker 3: called miss Muffett and I forgot you know what I mean. 181 00:10:09,095 --> 00:10:11,815 Speaker 2: Anyway, go Berry, get on with it, right, yeah, hang on, 182 00:10:11,895 --> 00:10:15,055 Speaker 2: here we go, very there we go, Berry, go for it. 183 00:10:15,895 --> 00:10:20,495 Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning. I'm just wondering, for children's sake, is 184 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:25,095 Speaker 6: a sting from the Nazi wath compared to the hornets? 185 00:10:25,095 --> 00:10:26,295 Speaker 6: Are they similar or. 186 00:10:28,175 --> 00:10:31,255 Speaker 3: Can I about at the same They're the same strength, 187 00:10:31,295 --> 00:10:34,335 Speaker 3: if you like. Not very funny at all. Yeah, not 188 00:10:34,615 --> 00:10:39,015 Speaker 3: very good and similar, I would yeah, I would say 189 00:10:39,095 --> 00:10:41,215 Speaker 3: very similar. But what I would do is just stay 190 00:10:41,215 --> 00:10:43,615 Speaker 3: away from them, really because it does hurt for you. 191 00:10:43,695 --> 00:10:45,495 Speaker 3: As you know, when you get done by a wasp, 192 00:10:45,575 --> 00:10:46,735 Speaker 3: it verse for quite a while. 193 00:10:47,855 --> 00:10:50,095 Speaker 2: And I have to say, rude looking at the photographs 194 00:10:50,095 --> 00:10:54,055 Speaker 2: of these yellow leagued hornets, the stinger on the back, 195 00:10:54,495 --> 00:10:56,935 Speaker 2: it's not a stinger. It looks like a buddy anti 196 00:10:56,975 --> 00:10:57,735 Speaker 2: aircraft gun. 197 00:11:00,215 --> 00:11:01,015 Speaker 5: Good description. 198 00:11:01,455 --> 00:11:04,175 Speaker 3: There you go. That's exactly what it is. Yes, and 199 00:11:04,215 --> 00:11:07,175 Speaker 3: it's full of that material that makes you so a right. 200 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:10,135 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well I'm not rushing out to test it, 201 00:11:10,215 --> 00:11:13,655 Speaker 2: thank you very much. No, don't no, no, okay, all right, 202 00:11:14,615 --> 00:11:16,335 Speaker 2: Actually we'll take the break now and then we'll come 203 00:11:16,375 --> 00:11:18,535 Speaker 2: back the through it and a final question ahead of 204 00:11:18,575 --> 00:11:20,735 Speaker 2: the live commentary of the All Black Smatch back in 205 00:11:20,735 --> 00:11:20,975 Speaker 2: the Bow. 206 00:11:22,095 --> 00:11:25,215 Speaker 1: God. They would steal shops battery system. Kids get a 207 00:11:25,255 --> 00:11:26,815 Speaker 1: second battery half price. 208 00:11:27,135 --> 00:11:28,335 Speaker 2: Literally two minutes to go. 209 00:11:28,575 --> 00:11:28,775 Speaker 3: Ray. 210 00:11:28,895 --> 00:11:29,775 Speaker 2: Brussels sprouts? 211 00:11:30,815 --> 00:11:33,695 Speaker 4: Yeah, Brussels sprouts? How many do I pull off them? 212 00:11:34,095 --> 00:11:36,335 Speaker 4: If I would say I started off with six and 213 00:11:36,375 --> 00:11:39,015 Speaker 4: now I'm down to two the weather has been bad 214 00:11:39,135 --> 00:11:42,295 Speaker 4: or whatever. Now they started to put some Brussels spouts 215 00:11:42,335 --> 00:11:45,775 Speaker 4: on them? Do I pull every second one off or 216 00:11:46,135 --> 00:11:46,815 Speaker 4: whatever I do? 217 00:11:48,175 --> 00:11:50,695 Speaker 3: What do you mean with you've gone from six to two? 218 00:11:51,255 --> 00:11:53,015 Speaker 3: The number of plants that survived? 219 00:11:53,455 --> 00:11:55,815 Speaker 4: Yeah, the lumber of plants that have survived. 220 00:11:56,575 --> 00:11:58,055 Speaker 3: What have you got into soil there? 221 00:11:58,255 --> 00:12:02,255 Speaker 4: Ray, Well, it's a pretty over hat. They're in pots. 222 00:12:05,335 --> 00:12:10,015 Speaker 3: Yeah, big pots, I hope, because they really do like 223 00:12:10,095 --> 00:12:12,375 Speaker 3: their their roots to be going all over the place 224 00:12:12,415 --> 00:12:13,215 Speaker 3: to get their food. 225 00:12:13,255 --> 00:12:20,335 Speaker 4: Of course, Oh okay, all right, they're chippy enough then. 226 00:12:20,655 --> 00:12:24,055 Speaker 3: And what is the constitution of it? Is that organic 227 00:12:24,095 --> 00:12:28,535 Speaker 3: material or is it is it? Is it soil as well? 228 00:12:29,855 --> 00:12:37,375 Speaker 4: And plenty of path in horses? The horses? What the horses? 229 00:12:39,135 --> 00:12:41,255 Speaker 3: I know what you mean with horses? What they leave thee. 230 00:12:41,335 --> 00:12:42,855 Speaker 3: I think you might have gone over the top a 231 00:12:42,895 --> 00:12:45,295 Speaker 3: little bit with that because the amount of nitrogen there 232 00:12:45,735 --> 00:12:49,615 Speaker 3: is so much that you probably went too far. And 233 00:12:50,015 --> 00:12:53,295 Speaker 3: the and the other thing is not just organic material 234 00:12:53,375 --> 00:12:58,775 Speaker 3: and horse poo. Sorry, nearly said the wrong word here. 235 00:12:59,855 --> 00:13:02,495 Speaker 3: I think you need to do at least more than 236 00:13:02,535 --> 00:13:06,295 Speaker 3: fifty of mineral soil. That means, you know, the stuff 237 00:13:06,335 --> 00:13:09,615 Speaker 3: did you get in loan and play and and things 238 00:13:09,695 --> 00:13:13,255 Speaker 3: like that, because I can't just be organic material, Honestly, 239 00:13:13,335 --> 00:13:14,575 Speaker 3: it's not gonna work like that. 240 00:13:15,215 --> 00:13:20,295 Speaker 4: Sorry, I water them. I've got the horse govern and 241 00:13:20,335 --> 00:13:23,415 Speaker 4: a plastic container, and I use the water to water 242 00:13:23,535 --> 00:13:24,135 Speaker 4: down the roade. 243 00:13:25,415 --> 00:13:27,815 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it is the case of too much of 244 00:13:27,815 --> 00:13:28,295 Speaker 2: a good thing. 245 00:13:28,375 --> 00:13:31,415 Speaker 3: Rude, Yes, it is far too much of a good thing. 246 00:13:31,415 --> 00:13:33,055 Speaker 3: And if I would, if I would put you in 247 00:13:33,095 --> 00:13:37,135 Speaker 3: a horse pool by bucket, I think you wouldn't like that, 248 00:13:37,935 --> 00:13:41,055 Speaker 3: to be quite honest, Ray. 249 00:13:40,055 --> 00:13:43,455 Speaker 2: Fantastic, Look there, that's wise words for anyone. 250 00:13:43,815 --> 00:13:44,015 Speaker 4: Ray. 251 00:13:44,095 --> 00:13:47,215 Speaker 2: Hope that helps the red climb pass. Enjoy your day, 252 00:13:47,455 --> 00:13:48,815 Speaker 2: educating people, take care. 253 00:13:49,775 --> 00:13:50,775 Speaker 4: Sea all this. 254 00:13:54,815 --> 00:13:57,775 Speaker 1: For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen 255 00:13:57,855 --> 00:14:00,615 Speaker 1: live to news talks they'd be on Sunday mornings from six, 256 00:14:00,975 --> 00:14:03,015 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio