1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,747 Speaker 1: from News Talks B Sunday afternoons. 3 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:16,227 Speaker 2: We get the pleasure of the company of James mcconey, 4 00:00:16,267 --> 00:00:20,467 Speaker 2: crag Goes Wild, alternative commentary, Collective, various other media platforms 5 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:22,227 Speaker 2: and other things too that you know don't need to 6 00:00:22,267 --> 00:00:25,107 Speaker 2: be discussed here. Hello James, Hi, how. 7 00:00:25,027 --> 00:00:27,627 Speaker 3: Are you pony? Yeah, it's good to be here. Plenty 8 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:30,507 Speaker 3: of platforms, mate, it's what you need. Absolutely my way 9 00:00:31,467 --> 00:00:32,427 Speaker 3: reinforced ones. 10 00:00:33,147 --> 00:00:35,587 Speaker 2: Well, I always say they can't all fire you at once. 11 00:00:36,067 --> 00:00:38,587 Speaker 2: So if you if you have plenty of plenty of 12 00:00:38,627 --> 00:00:42,267 Speaker 2: income streams. I think it's good. Hey, the Warriors are. 13 00:00:42,107 --> 00:00:46,547 Speaker 3: Back, our back baby, and I gave them no chance 14 00:00:46,587 --> 00:00:49,307 Speaker 3: of betting Manly. But this is the whole thing with 15 00:00:49,347 --> 00:00:51,827 Speaker 3: those teams that seems stacked. But then you look at 16 00:00:51,827 --> 00:00:54,827 Speaker 3: Manly and there's you know, Tom Javoievitch has always been 17 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:57,227 Speaker 3: in jury prone daily Cherry Evans, I think might be 18 00:00:57,267 --> 00:01:00,827 Speaker 3: the oldest player in the NRL. You know, sometimes it's 19 00:01:00,827 --> 00:01:05,787 Speaker 3: about being healthy and and methodical, and I thought exactly 20 00:01:05,827 --> 00:01:10,027 Speaker 3: that's what the Warriors were on Friday night. They didn't 21 00:01:10,267 --> 00:01:12,627 Speaker 3: you know, they didn't get scared. They didn't freak out 22 00:01:12,667 --> 00:01:15,827 Speaker 3: after that early manly try. Just bit by bit they 23 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:21,267 Speaker 3: put together nice moves and and I thought, for Webbe, 24 00:01:21,627 --> 00:01:24,907 Speaker 3: the carrige ander Webster, he must have been so stoked 25 00:01:24,907 --> 00:01:28,667 Speaker 3: because he's he's got a plan and they absolutely stuck 26 00:01:28,707 --> 00:01:31,307 Speaker 3: to it. And we're a team, let's be honest, that 27 00:01:31,627 --> 00:01:34,587 Speaker 3: is lacking the big stars. So on paper we should 28 00:01:34,587 --> 00:01:35,427 Speaker 3: not have won that game. 29 00:01:35,707 --> 00:01:37,587 Speaker 2: I must say, you said they didn't freak out after 30 00:01:37,627 --> 00:01:39,547 Speaker 2: conceding the first try. I must say I was a 31 00:01:39,547 --> 00:01:42,907 Speaker 2: little bit concerned. After they considered that first try. I 32 00:01:42,947 --> 00:01:44,787 Speaker 2: wondered what was going to get, what was going to happen. 33 00:01:44,787 --> 00:01:47,347 Speaker 2: I actually feared for us a little bit. 34 00:01:48,267 --> 00:01:50,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's the thing I think when you look 35 00:01:50,747 --> 00:01:54,947 Speaker 3: at the Warriors team. Even I still don't believe Rogers 36 00:01:55,067 --> 00:01:58,507 Speaker 3: Uvasishik should play on the wing. But look, we've got 37 00:01:58,507 --> 00:02:00,907 Speaker 3: to trust him. We'll we trust in the process because 38 00:02:01,627 --> 00:02:04,827 Speaker 3: you know what's what happened there is Ali lad Taua 39 00:02:04,907 --> 00:02:08,987 Speaker 3: had a good game. We saw were even our has 40 00:02:09,027 --> 00:02:12,467 Speaker 3: started to combine really nicely. We needed to see that 41 00:02:12,667 --> 00:02:15,507 Speaker 3: because to me, the X factor comes from someone like 42 00:02:15,627 --> 00:02:18,787 Speaker 3: letter Halasima off the bench, and I've popped on about 43 00:02:18,867 --> 00:02:21,187 Speaker 3: him for a while, But he's a guy who could 44 00:02:21,187 --> 00:02:23,987 Speaker 3: be a superstar. How we manage him is important. But 45 00:02:24,067 --> 00:02:27,227 Speaker 3: also we can't let him go like Eli Kator to 46 00:02:27,307 --> 00:02:31,387 Speaker 3: the storm. So the process of getting him to that 47 00:02:31,467 --> 00:02:35,347 Speaker 3: next level is vital. But I mean, I'm always a 48 00:02:35,387 --> 00:02:37,947 Speaker 3: believer that someone like Rogers Tvasis she should be a 49 00:02:37,947 --> 00:02:40,427 Speaker 3: bit like the way Larry Day moved closer to the 50 00:02:40,427 --> 00:02:44,627 Speaker 3: ball as his career went on and should almost be 51 00:02:44,667 --> 00:02:46,467 Speaker 3: a standoff by now. But hey, as long as we 52 00:02:46,507 --> 00:02:48,827 Speaker 3: winning games have come out on the wing, let's just 53 00:02:48,907 --> 00:02:49,467 Speaker 3: keep it that way. 54 00:02:49,587 --> 00:02:53,307 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now the rooster is a next they beat the Panthers, 55 00:02:53,307 --> 00:02:56,147 Speaker 2: they beat Penrith James, I know. 56 00:02:56,347 --> 00:02:57,947 Speaker 3: And the thing is, I was looking at this as 57 00:02:57,987 --> 00:03:01,587 Speaker 3: a player there Alfahu White who played for Kelston Boyce 58 00:03:01,667 --> 00:03:06,587 Speaker 3: Hi for fifteen rugby and just you know, sometimes just 59 00:03:06,627 --> 00:03:08,347 Speaker 3: go where's that guy from it? And you go, I 60 00:03:08,387 --> 00:03:11,267 Speaker 3: remember seeing him somewhere and yeah, just down the road 61 00:03:11,307 --> 00:03:16,107 Speaker 3: here from my house in west Auckland. So seeing this 62 00:03:16,147 --> 00:03:18,267 Speaker 3: is the thing. There's a lot of players who are 63 00:03:18,267 --> 00:03:22,387 Speaker 3: starting to mature and turn into really solid pros, and 64 00:03:22,507 --> 00:03:27,547 Speaker 3: watching them, I guess boss the Pedris side around there 65 00:03:27,587 --> 00:03:29,547 Speaker 3: was a bit of a comeback here, and it came 66 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:34,627 Speaker 3: down to the last seconds. But really they looked solid 67 00:03:34,707 --> 00:03:38,307 Speaker 3: after a terrible start. So this is what you want 68 00:03:38,307 --> 00:03:40,907 Speaker 3: from the competition, really, is that anybody can bid anybody, 69 00:03:40,907 --> 00:03:44,747 Speaker 3: because Super Rugby is doing that for sure, and I 70 00:03:44,747 --> 00:03:49,387 Speaker 3: mean I think Super Rugby has probably been even more entertaining. 71 00:03:49,467 --> 00:03:52,147 Speaker 3: But the n I was getting into its work, isn't it? 72 00:03:52,187 --> 00:03:53,907 Speaker 2: And dat it is? And that its well, it's got 73 00:03:53,907 --> 00:03:56,587 Speaker 2: to Rugby. Nice seguey because the Chiefs are top, but 74 00:03:56,707 --> 00:03:59,987 Speaker 2: from the second place Crusaders down to the bottom place 75 00:04:00,027 --> 00:04:04,027 Speaker 2: to Morena Pacifica. There's only eight points between those ten teams. 76 00:04:04,067 --> 00:04:07,707 Speaker 2: And it's exactly what you just said. Anyone can beat anybody, 77 00:04:08,027 --> 00:04:11,307 Speaker 2: true jeopardy and some cracking games of rugby. 78 00:04:12,547 --> 00:04:15,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's no natural alpha, you know. That's 79 00:04:15,147 --> 00:04:17,147 Speaker 3: what I quite like about it. So it is like 80 00:04:17,227 --> 00:04:19,907 Speaker 3: the end of that scene in Jurassic World where they 81 00:04:19,907 --> 00:04:22,387 Speaker 3: had that sort of like the one that the dinosaur 82 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:25,187 Speaker 3: cooked up in the lab versus t Rex. I don't 83 00:04:25,227 --> 00:04:28,067 Speaker 3: know if I'm going too far from your wheelhouse of 84 00:04:28,107 --> 00:04:32,387 Speaker 3: movies here, Poney, but we saw that with the Blues 85 00:04:32,387 --> 00:04:34,907 Speaker 3: and the Chiefs last night. I know, Minty on your 86 00:04:34,907 --> 00:04:37,307 Speaker 3: show was oh, by the way, have you seen Jurassic World? 87 00:04:37,427 --> 00:04:39,107 Speaker 2: I know I haven't, but I feel like I have 88 00:04:39,267 --> 00:04:40,667 Speaker 2: now that you've explained the ending. 89 00:04:41,427 --> 00:04:45,507 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, great battle between those two. But I 90 00:04:45,547 --> 00:04:47,947 Speaker 3: mean Minty is the chiefs man and God bless him, 91 00:04:47,947 --> 00:04:51,147 Speaker 3: but he's definitely the glass artful Chiefs version. I'm the 92 00:04:51,187 --> 00:04:53,507 Speaker 3: glass harp empty guy at the moment, because you know, 93 00:04:53,547 --> 00:04:56,987 Speaker 3: it was just a conversion shaving the upright the cost 94 00:04:57,307 --> 00:05:01,707 Speaker 3: that cost. The Blues are really solid victory against the 95 00:05:01,707 --> 00:05:04,107 Speaker 3: odds last night, and yeah, the Chiefs have got a 96 00:05:04,147 --> 00:05:06,267 Speaker 3: few things they need to go away and work on. 97 00:05:06,627 --> 00:05:09,227 Speaker 3: I think it's good to see two strong hookers out 98 00:05:09,227 --> 00:05:11,467 Speaker 3: there with Brady McAllister coming into the fray and then 99 00:05:11,507 --> 00:05:16,107 Speaker 3: the one two punch with him and SUMMERSONI Tokyaho, but 100 00:05:16,747 --> 00:05:20,947 Speaker 3: really I think they got lucky. And when I looked 101 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:25,187 Speaker 3: at Zavi Taly and then Cam Christie, pretty much two 102 00:05:25,227 --> 00:05:29,267 Speaker 3: guys on debut looking so good for the Blues. They 103 00:05:29,267 --> 00:05:32,467 Speaker 3: are the future. And Talley has been touted quite a 104 00:05:32,467 --> 00:05:34,507 Speaker 3: bit under twenties captain, I think, and you know he's 105 00:05:34,547 --> 00:05:37,787 Speaker 3: been everyone talks about them. But Cam Christie out of 106 00:05:37,867 --> 00:05:40,347 Speaker 3: Audioway College, I mean, I thought there were only rest 107 00:05:40,387 --> 00:05:43,907 Speaker 3: homes in Audioway, but yet there is a college there 108 00:05:44,147 --> 00:05:48,227 Speaker 3: and senior kids to just normal state schools. Because it 109 00:05:48,267 --> 00:05:50,067 Speaker 3: doesn't they can still rise to the top. 110 00:05:50,107 --> 00:05:53,507 Speaker 2: Pony, You're so right about the kick because that slightly 111 00:05:53,547 --> 00:05:56,507 Speaker 2: to the left. Then we're having a different conversation as 112 00:05:56,547 --> 00:05:59,547 Speaker 2: we are of Sam Gilbert's drop goal at the end 113 00:05:59,627 --> 00:06:02,827 Speaker 2: of the game on Friday night is slightly more to 114 00:06:02,907 --> 00:06:07,547 Speaker 2: the right. You know, they are very small margins between 115 00:06:08,027 --> 00:06:11,187 Speaker 2: defeat and victory and Super Regular this year, which again 116 00:06:11,707 --> 00:06:14,067 Speaker 2: is what we're after. But yeah, it's funny how small 117 00:06:14,067 --> 00:06:17,427 Speaker 2: margins can can have such huge impacts. 118 00:06:17,467 --> 00:06:19,787 Speaker 3: Just one thing. On the end of that Highlanders game, 119 00:06:20,027 --> 00:06:22,187 Speaker 3: there was a high tackle by Peter among the Jensen 120 00:06:22,227 --> 00:06:24,747 Speaker 3: and I was thinking, okay, did the rest missed that? 121 00:06:24,907 --> 00:06:27,107 Speaker 3: And they said it's not yellow cart threshold, But that's 122 00:06:27,147 --> 00:06:30,107 Speaker 3: still really a high tackle that I think a TMO 123 00:06:30,227 --> 00:06:32,907 Speaker 3: should rule on, And there seems to be a few 124 00:06:32,907 --> 00:06:36,427 Speaker 3: of those discrepancies. Rugby is absolutely riddled with it at 125 00:06:36,467 --> 00:06:39,027 Speaker 3: the moment because there was a kind of potential headbut 126 00:06:39,147 --> 00:06:41,147 Speaker 3: by this French hook in Malvaca this morning in the 127 00:06:41,187 --> 00:06:44,107 Speaker 3: Six Nations, and that was I thought it was going 128 00:06:44,147 --> 00:06:46,987 Speaker 3: to be upgraded to red and stayed yellow. So who 129 00:06:47,027 --> 00:06:50,427 Speaker 3: knows what the hell's going on upstairs? Because I mean, 130 00:06:50,467 --> 00:06:52,547 Speaker 3: are they like me? They just like triple screening and 131 00:06:52,547 --> 00:06:55,467 Speaker 3: looking on Instagram while they're watching the game because potentially 132 00:06:55,507 --> 00:06:56,507 Speaker 3: they might be Yeah. 133 00:06:56,507 --> 00:07:00,107 Speaker 2: So they don't have their full focus where they should have. 134 00:07:00,227 --> 00:07:02,387 Speaker 2: In other words, yeah on. 135 00:07:02,347 --> 00:07:05,667 Speaker 3: The twisties like myself or whatever, you know, like chips 136 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:08,787 Speaker 3: and dirt and so TMO is just focus people. We 137 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:10,667 Speaker 3: need to actually need you to contribute. 138 00:07:10,827 --> 00:07:13,067 Speaker 2: Do you ever when you're watching Sky do you have 139 00:07:13,107 --> 00:07:15,507 Speaker 2: a pause it and then you know, to do whatever 140 00:07:15,547 --> 00:07:17,867 Speaker 2: and then and then start it again and then forget 141 00:07:17,907 --> 00:07:20,587 Speaker 2: that you're actually about a couple of minutes behind, even 142 00:07:20,587 --> 00:07:23,107 Speaker 2: when you go through halftime all the time. 143 00:07:23,147 --> 00:07:25,667 Speaker 3: And then I get annoying text from the Crowdo's wild 144 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:28,307 Speaker 3: group chat and I just go, okay, right, that's some 145 00:07:28,667 --> 00:07:31,787 Speaker 3: I'm miles behind here. And even the Tryback, which is 146 00:07:31,827 --> 00:07:33,467 Speaker 3: a really good app for people out there if you 147 00:07:33,507 --> 00:07:36,707 Speaker 3: love your sport, tried as a New Zealand act that's 148 00:07:36,707 --> 00:07:39,747 Speaker 3: got all your favorite sporting sporting teams. But they'll give 149 00:07:39,747 --> 00:07:41,867 Speaker 3: me an a lit and I'll find out, oh okay, 150 00:07:42,027 --> 00:07:43,907 Speaker 3: you know or can you see you've scored? And it's 151 00:07:43,987 --> 00:07:46,987 Speaker 3: like I'm watching the game and it's there. 152 00:07:47,147 --> 00:07:49,227 Speaker 2: You're still watching the You're still watching the pre game, 153 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:53,627 Speaker 2: still watching the pre game. Hey, Liam Lawson's going to 154 00:07:53,987 --> 00:07:56,987 Speaker 2: going to take to the track at Albert Park this afternoon. 155 00:07:57,667 --> 00:07:59,907 Speaker 2: In about three hours or so, he'll be out there. 156 00:07:59,907 --> 00:08:03,387 Speaker 2: It's going to rain. What what are you expecting from 157 00:08:03,827 --> 00:08:05,147 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson this afternoon. 158 00:08:06,147 --> 00:08:09,227 Speaker 3: Well, apparently he's good in the wet I've heard, so 159 00:08:09,347 --> 00:08:13,147 Speaker 3: that's that's great. I mean, he grew up and book Kobe. 160 00:08:13,267 --> 00:08:15,227 Speaker 3: Everyone loves the Book of Kelly Bogan. Whether it's the 161 00:08:15,267 --> 00:08:18,547 Speaker 3: late great Possum Born, you know, everybody's sort of every 162 00:08:18,587 --> 00:08:20,907 Speaker 3: great driver has really cut their teeth there. But he 163 00:08:20,987 --> 00:08:24,227 Speaker 3: is actually from there, from humble beginnings, which is really 164 00:08:24,267 --> 00:08:27,867 Speaker 3: hard to do in Formula one. You know, it does 165 00:08:27,907 --> 00:08:29,547 Speaker 3: look like a rich kid with his blonde here who 166 00:08:29,547 --> 00:08:31,947 Speaker 3: looks like Draco Malfoy out of Harry Potter. Do you 167 00:08:31,987 --> 00:08:33,147 Speaker 3: know that reference? Pony? No? 168 00:08:33,227 --> 00:08:35,027 Speaker 2: But again I'm learning all the time. 169 00:08:35,187 --> 00:08:39,307 Speaker 3: Okay, but this is the thing. Here's his car. Sounds 170 00:08:39,347 --> 00:08:43,107 Speaker 3: like my car. It's got major problems. It barely passes 171 00:08:43,107 --> 00:08:46,307 Speaker 3: the War on of Fitness I've had huge issues. When 172 00:08:46,307 --> 00:08:47,907 Speaker 3: I got war on the fitness the other day for 173 00:08:48,027 --> 00:08:51,227 Speaker 3: my car, it was almost second happiest day after my 174 00:08:51,907 --> 00:08:54,627 Speaker 3: daughter's birth, you know, like it was that big of 175 00:08:54,707 --> 00:08:59,147 Speaker 3: a deal. This car is so crap. But seeing him 176 00:08:59,787 --> 00:09:03,347 Speaker 3: get the probably the worst, the lesser mechanics, the lesser engineers, 177 00:09:03,387 --> 00:09:05,827 Speaker 3: and him having engine problems while the staff and it's 178 00:09:05,867 --> 00:09:10,107 Speaker 3: just flying. It's just typical, isn't it. Really. Of course, 179 00:09:10,187 --> 00:09:12,747 Speaker 3: supposely you can overcome that and get a warrant. 180 00:09:13,707 --> 00:09:16,387 Speaker 2: It's hope. So let's hope he passes it. They can 181 00:09:16,427 --> 00:09:18,547 Speaker 2: put a new sticker on his screen. It's not even 182 00:09:18,547 --> 00:09:20,387 Speaker 2: a sticker anymore. Is that you're sort of slotted into 183 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:22,867 Speaker 2: its little into a little case, now, don't you. You 184 00:09:22,867 --> 00:09:24,267 Speaker 2: don't stick it on the screen anymore. 185 00:09:25,267 --> 00:09:27,067 Speaker 3: There's still a sticker, there's still a ceremony, and it 186 00:09:27,147 --> 00:09:29,747 Speaker 3: lasts for a year. Piny, it's the greatest thing feeling 187 00:09:29,747 --> 00:09:32,307 Speaker 3: of relief you'll ever feel in your life. Go get one. 188 00:09:33,027 --> 00:09:36,907 Speaker 2: I'll go and get one when when the need arises. 189 00:09:36,947 --> 00:09:39,107 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, look forward to many more. 190 00:09:39,227 --> 00:09:44,987 Speaker 2: Niche references from you next Sunday, and you just know, yes, 191 00:09:45,027 --> 00:09:47,467 Speaker 2: so you're not just you're not just you're not just 192 00:09:47,627 --> 00:09:51,067 Speaker 2: making it up for our benefit. Got on you, James. 193 00:09:51,107 --> 00:09:53,427 Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, James mcconey a huge part of our Sundays 194 00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:54,387 Speaker 2: here on News Talks. 195 00:09:54,147 --> 00:09:57,827 Speaker 1: Heb for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 196 00:09:57,907 --> 00:10:01,507 Speaker 1: live to News Talks HEADB weekends from midday, or follow 197 00:10:01,547 --> 00:10:03,107 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio