1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Afternoon, So it is d day for former Green MP 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Darlene Tan of The Greens will meet in about an 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: hour and a half to vote on whether to invoke 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: the Wacker jumping legislation and boot her out of parliament now. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Darline took the party to court last month to argue 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: that their disciplinary process had been unlawful. A judge rejected 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: her claims. She's now taken it to the Court of Appeal. 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Meeting still going ahead regardless. Political analyst ed Bryce Edwards 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: is with me now, have Bryce hi, Heather, do you 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: reckon they've got the seventy five percent? 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: Oh, it's no one's going to know till about eight thirty. 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: But I would guess they have got it, because why 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: would they just continue with this process if they didn't 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: have confidence that they would get something like that, Because 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: you know, this has been so embarrassing for the Greens 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: and it's just dragged on and on, and I mean, 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: I think they should have stepped back from this many 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: months ago and avoided all embarrassment, but now they've gone 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: down the path they I think Chloe Warbrick would really 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: need to know that she's got the backing of activisties 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: to not face defeat. 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Bryce with you. I think doing this at all was 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: a mistake. But do you think going down the democratic 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: path and getting everybody to have a Kumbaya session about 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: it was a mistake, or just trying to kick her 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: out with the wacker jumping legislation at all was a mistake. 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: Look, look, they had to do that. That's in their constitution. 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: That Yes, the law says you need two thirds of 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: the caucus to vote to do this, and the Greens 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: have an add on to make it a bit more 31 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: democratic that seventy five percent of the base, the activist 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: base have to do so. 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: So ring they should have just left her up there 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: in Siberia. 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: Of course they should have. This has been so embarrassing. 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: I mean it is actually an unprincipled thing for the 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: Greens to do. Their whole history has been opposing this 38 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: bill for very good reason, and I think it will 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: be our democracy will be worse for it. It will 40 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: lead to a chilling effect on backbench MPs knowing that 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: they can be tossed out if they go against the leadership. 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you on that. Now, if 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: they do decide tonight to kick out and then they 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: manage to get the thing done by Tuesday next week. 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Then the Court of Appeal thing is for her is 46 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: just about saving face and nothing else right because she 47 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: can't be brought back. 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: And she it's a bit mysterious because no, the High 49 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Court can't reverse the Speaker's decision. So if he gets imbursed, 50 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: and my understanding is that the Greens will notify the 51 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: Speaker tonight if they get that vote, and that the 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: Speaker will do so between Narra and Tuesday, will notify 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: Tanna that she's no longer an MP and to clear 54 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: the seat vacant. The High Court can't reverse that, so 55 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: it all becomes quite absurd. 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: Does she get any you know how if you're a 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: political staffer in the BHW, do you get the three 58 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: months severance pay and all that kind of stuff? Does 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: she get that? Or is it like that's your last paypacket? 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: Lady bye? 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know that, and you know this isn't 62 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: something that we normally use, so I'm not sure they 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: have rules about such things. I mean, you know, this 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: has hardly been used that she'd been used by the 65 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: eight Party back and what about two thousand and four, 66 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: and this is the only time that's been used since 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: the current version of it came into power in twenty eighteen, 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: so it's a bit of new territory, really interesting. 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: Hey Bryce, thanks very much, appreciate your insight. That's Bryce Edwards, 70 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: political analyst. By the way, Darlene appears to be sort 71 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: of bracing herself for it to go against her today. 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: She says she's heartbroken that the Greens are forging ahead 73 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: with a plan to make her leave parliament. She says, 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: I have done nothing wrong. Five to eleven. For more 75 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news Talks. 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 77 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.