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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty unparalleled reach

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Speaker 1: and results.

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Speaker 2: I'm huddled with me this evening. We have Richard Hill's

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Speaker 2: Auckland counselor and Mark Sainsbury Men's Health Weak Director. Hello

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Speaker 2: you two, saying zo, how do you feel about this

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Speaker 2: your first time? Do you have trepidation or were just

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Speaker 2: like taking.

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Speaker 3: It in my stre neither. I had to take a

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Speaker 3: sedative before I came on, and I was just getting

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Speaker 3: so excited.

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Speaker 2: I like the fact that you've come in all hot

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Speaker 2: and just given us a hard time. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: She's way nicer than she pretends she is.

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Speaker 2: This is what Richard has to do. He has to

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Speaker 2: go around all his lefty friends saying she's not actually

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Speaker 2: that bad. She's really nice.

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Speaker 4: She tells me that she pays me to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they still don't believe it. Rigid. The

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Speaker 2: speed limit reversals, how good.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a bit weird that they are all

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Speaker 4: about localism, telling you know, local councils that can do

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Speaker 4: everything three waters, and then they're going to make us

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Speaker 4: spend tons of money to reverse all these changes right across.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have done it in the first place. But

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Speaker 2: you spent money in the first place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but most of it was the request

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Speaker 4: I get from my community, from schools. Some of them

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Speaker 4: are angry that we haven't put it in. You've got

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Speaker 4: town centers, all of it has been consulted on. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what they keep talking about. These blanket restrictions,

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Speaker 4: our blanket possibilities. They were actually brought in by a

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Speaker 4: national before Labor Craig Foss and others led a program

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Speaker 4: around safe for communities because we have we're twenty ninth

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Speaker 4: out of thirty three OECD countries for deaths and serious injuries.

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Speaker 2: So from what I saw, it sounded to me like

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Speaker 2: it has to reverse unless the locals want it right.

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Speaker 2: So there's still the opportunity for localism.

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Speaker 4: Right, so we'll have to know. Well, what I read

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Speaker 4: from today is that we've got to reverse them all

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Speaker 4: then consult again. But we've already consulted, like schools, everyone,

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Speaker 4: local town centers around Devenport, everyone. You know, the submissions

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Speaker 4: were in favor of those things, so it's kind of

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Speaker 4: weird that we have to remove them all. I don't

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Speaker 4: know how much is going to cost to do that

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Speaker 4: and then consulting.

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Speaker 2: Say, are you ever being consulted on a speed limit?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, me neither. It's weird that Richard is getting all

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Speaker 2: this consultation. Are you into the reversal?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, you know, I like driving. I think

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Speaker 3: some of the roads if if they could have a

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Speaker 3: high speed limit. I mean, like those big the new

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Speaker 3: big huge motorways, the Whycatter Expressway and things like that.

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Speaker 3: I've got no problem with the highest speed limit on that.

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Speaker 3: Our biggest problem here is we've just got to improve

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Speaker 3: our driving if we're going to have highest speed limits.

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest problem of the New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Are you of the view saying so that we are

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Speaker 2: not good drivers in this country?

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Speaker 3: Look, we all all think suffer a bit of the

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Speaker 3: problem that we think we're really good drivers. I'm guilty

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Speaker 3: of that myself. And then you catch yourself out doing

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Speaker 3: something stupid, you know, and you change, I think as

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Speaker 3: you get older. But there's that lot of aggression on

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Speaker 3: And it's the same as you know, people do weird

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Speaker 3: past and someone's picking their nose. Why because they're obliv reading.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah too, Right do you do these things?

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Speaker 4: Richard? No, mostly on the bus so I can read

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Speaker 4: my emails and do my tweet. Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: I do. The thing says are where I sing in

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Speaker 2: the car? I think that nobody's going to see the

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Speaker 4: You do that, then you look and there's a bus

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Speaker 4: of night people looking down there.

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at you. All right, we'll take a

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Speaker 2: break with you guys, come back very shortly. Right, you're

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Speaker 2: back with the huddle, Mark Sainsbury and Richard Hill's mark.

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Speaker 2: There is some analysis OWT today. It shows the huge

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Speaker 2: difference between what some people in local government get paid

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Speaker 2: in others like Auckland's mayor gets about three hundred thousand,

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Speaker 2: but then counselors in Stratford get twenty three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the right level? Like should

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Speaker 2: councilors be paid less or more?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: Less than the less than the maya?

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Speaker 2: Low the lower end? Like should we be looking at

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Speaker 2: paying counselors around about twenty three thousand dollars. You're making

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Speaker 2: it a job for people who are competent but don't

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Speaker 2: it and then tracting better people in well do you see?

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Speaker 3: I mean this is a good thing Richards here because

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Speaker 3: you look that Stratford you're getting twenty three thousand. Now

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Speaker 3: a council in Auckland is getting paid more than four

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Speaker 3: times that. So are they doing four times for work

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Speaker 3: or there four times small responsibility or is it just

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Speaker 4: Well, Stratford, I worked out that if it was based

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Speaker 4: on population, I'd be paid four and a half million

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Speaker 4: dollars a year because Stratford has we have more staff

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Speaker 4: members than Stratford has their nine thousand.

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Speaker 2: I mean you would be doing more work than a

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Speaker 2: counselor in Stratford, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's differently in place, full time, nighttime, weekend

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Speaker 4: job like And you know, I think most people don't

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Speaker 4: realize and this is not defending counselors because everyone hates

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Speaker 4: counsel anyway, but you know, we have three times the

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Speaker 4: population of an MP does in our ward. So I'm

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Speaker 4: dealing with request constantly, and we don't have like an

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Speaker 4: I think it has to be based on effort. I

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Speaker 4: know there's some counselors that do not put in the effort,

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Speaker 4: but it is a.

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Speaker 2: Name name Richard name names I.

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Speaker 4: Will not but it is a significant role and in

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Speaker 4: some areas maybe you do need to look at That's

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Speaker 4: why amalgamation I think is a good thing, because you

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Speaker 4: have brought a you know, people working full time instead

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Speaker 4: and you're not really thinking about the council would all yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is it expected to be a full time job?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we're paid over one hundred thousand dollars, I would.

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Speaker 4: I am assuming most people would expect us to be

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Speaker 2: And I'm definitely what about in Wellington saying so is

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Speaker 2: that expected to be a full time job for your counselors?

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Speaker 3: And I think it is because I'm so surprise the

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Speaker 3: MIA and Wellington on it's one hundred and eighty three thousand.

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Speaker 3: We've got a tug down here.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think No, I don't think you do,

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Speaker 2: saying so we'll have a little chat about what Tory

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Speaker 2: has been up to. Hey sayin so, do you reckon

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Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey post the Pierce Morgan interview?

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Speaker 3: Will ever be back? It's funny. I don't know where

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Speaker 3: this climate said. It was interesting watching him and he

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Speaker 3: was talking about things. Yeah, like it wasn't you know?

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Speaker 3: He was offend of the tomb broke. I was engrossing people,

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Speaker 3: I was caressing them and all the sort of And look,

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Speaker 3: we've all worked in officers. We've seen people who behave

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Speaker 3: appallingly doing and it just sort of got waved away.

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Speaker 3: But he's he's been out there, it's in public. It's

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Speaker 3: can you possibly come back? I just think it'd be

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Speaker 3: so hard, right, Yeah, I think he should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as my boss said to me today, Richard, I

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Speaker 2: think he should too. Right, he hasn't done anything that's

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Speaker 2: been proven to be wrong. But as my boss heat today,

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Speaker 2: but who's going to put money behind this guy? Who's

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Speaker 2: going to be like, I'm spending millions and millions and

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars on a film and you're the guy

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Speaker 2: that's going to star in it.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing that the public will be the public.

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Speaker 4: They're going to put their dollar where they want to.

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Speaker 2: I'd go and watch him, would you, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Sure I didn't. I did watch Use of Cards and

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Speaker 4: didn't you think he was awesome? Well, I don't know that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't watch the interview, but having an interview with

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Speaker 4: Piers Morgan is probably a bit of a red flag

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Speaker 4: at this point of time, do you think so?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think Peers Morgan tries to be the kind of

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Speaker 4: rack everyone up? So I didn't watch the interview. It

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Speaker 4: will be up to the people, like they're always going

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Speaker 4: to put their money.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: You see all sorts of celebrities go up and down

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Speaker 4: in their careers, and that's largely because, as you say,

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Speaker 4: they'd go and pull the community and go. Would you

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Speaker 2: So's are you a little worried about the gas situation

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Speaker 2: and what's going to happen with the power this winter?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean this whole you know, I keep

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Speaker 3: I've knowing people have been in the sort of the

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Speaker 3: whole argument of you know, why we're burning filthy stuff

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Speaker 3: more ecologically sound to sort of harvest it from here.

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Speaker 3: So but that whole I mean, that's listening to listening

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Speaker 3: to that that guy he was It was actually quite frightening,

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Speaker 3: wasn't it, Beau, If you're talking about major industry can't

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Speaker 2: So we are Yeah, I agree, I reckon that is

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Speaker 2: the word that I that I think sums it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit scared of where this is going, Richard,

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Speaker 2: aren't you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think we do need to look at what the

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Speaker 4: whole world is going is dropping off coal, So US

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Speaker 4: Europe we are not going to well, we only have

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Speaker 4: popped up in twenty twenty two, and the using figures

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Speaker 4: this year from a quarter last year was our lowest

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Speaker 4: use a bit of shock taxics by saying this is

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent worse than last year. Well, if last

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Speaker 4: year was our lowest since I was off lis the

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Speaker 4: then let's not go over the top. But we do

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Speaker 4: need to look at that time. How do we be

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Speaker 4: resilient in this time when we are decarbonizing. You look

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Speaker 4: at all their businesses Fonterra are you know, changing all

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Speaker 4: their coal boilers to electric and schools are doing that.

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Speaker 4: But you don't want to flip it that you're electrifying

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Speaker 4: everything and then having to use coal. That's right, but

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Speaker 4: I think there is that We just need a bit

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Speaker 4: of sense in there. But I honestly believe if all

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Speaker 4: back and forth all the time, because I think if

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Speaker 4: those communities and people can feel like you're.

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Speaker 2: A grouping you're going to do it and work towards it.

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