1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Very so, per senior political correspondence with US now High Barry, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: good afternoon. As the government claiming credit for the inflation 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: coming down sufficiently to have an OCR cut again. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Well your cockles will be warmed, no doubt, Heather, and 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: it seems that we all should be feeling much warmer 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: as a result of this fifty point drop. Nikola Willis 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: cheerfully gave us one example. A family with a five 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: hundred dollars five hundred thousand dollars mortgage on a twenty 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: five year term would expect to be better off by 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: about one hundred and eighty bucks a week, she says. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: But that's providing the bank drops the rate from seven 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: to five point seven five percent. I don't see bank 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: dropping rates that much. I haven't seen them come down 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: that much. The average mortgage interstraight in New Zealand is 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: just under eight percent, seven point ninety four percent. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Is this floating? 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: No, that's that's the average floating. Sorry, and the fixed 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: rate is five point nine percent. But if you listen 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: to Adrian or it's both good and uns certain news, 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: with all saying there's likely to be another fifty basis 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: point cut in the OCR early next year. But warns 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: of a slow recovery. 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: Economic growth is expected to recover during twenty twenty five 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: as lower interest rates encourage investment and other spending. Employment growth, however, 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: it is expected to remain weak until at least mid 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and for some financial stress will take 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: time to ease. The Monasty Policy Committee agreed that having 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: consumer price inflation close to the midpoint of its target 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: ban puts US in the best position to respond to 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 3: any shocks to inflation looking forward. 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: So that's good and sort of good news. I suppose, 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: of course, the government like you indicated earlier as putting 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: a very glossy picture or painting a glossy picture on 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: the latest fall. It's a year since they were sworn 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: in today on they're beginning their first day today. Mister 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: Nicola Willa says they've delivered what they said they would. 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: We promised that with careful fiscal management, we'd get inflation 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: back under control. We have. We promised that when inflation 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: was back under control, interest rates would drop. 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: They are. 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: We promised we would deliver fiscally neutral tax relief to 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: three point five million New Zealanders. 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: We have. 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: And for those who say, oh, well, it's just inevitable 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: that inflation and interest rates come down. Just look over 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: the ditch. 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well the Ossie rate is about the same as 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: ours two point eight percent. And mortgage rates, She's right, 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: the mortgage rates are still pretty high in Australia, about 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: seven point or seven and a half percent. So you 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: know New Zealand's are doing slightly better than Australia but 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: not significantly. 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: Well what on the are you measuring it on the OCR. 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: On the mortgage rates when the OCR there? 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not quite sure what Jesus has taking us 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: a while to do slightly better than they've been doing 57 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: better than us the whole other time. 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 59 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Hey, so tomorrow is it tomorrow or is it today? 60 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: That it was the first day in they begin. 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: Their first day? 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: Ye? 63 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: Today, it was a year ago. Yeah, And I know 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: whether you saw the Winston Peters interview in the Herald today, 65 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: it reminded me of just what the situation was like 66 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: in the lead up to the last election when you 67 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: came to particularly David Seymour and Winston Peters. Seymour had 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: described Winston Peters as a crook and the least trustworthy 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: people person in New Zealand Politics, and Peters responded and 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: kind of calling Seymour a political cuckold from EPSOM and 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: comparing him to Chihuahua barking at the front gate. And 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: they are now sitting around the cabinet table in coalition. 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: But it was interesting also I thought that you remember 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: the prime or not the Prime minister. Then the leader 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: of the opposition, Chris Luxon, was constantly being asked whether 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: he would sit down with Winston Peters after the election. 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: He equivercated all the way through, and then finally he 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: said that yes, he would pick up the phone to 79 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: Winston Peters if necessary. And it's interesting to me to 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: see these three personalities and who is actually getting on 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: better at the moment. And I suggest that Winston Peters 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: is getting on much better with Chris Luxon, maybe because 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: he's overseas or he's been overseas for much of the 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: past year than what David Seymour now I reckon. 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Because he's he's just more flexible on his principles. 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, he has been round of politics and 87 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: a long more tea. 88 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: He's much more pragmatic, isn't he He is. 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: More pragmatic and David Seymour, he knows what he wants 90 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: and he sets out to get it. But sometimes he 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: obviously gets under one not sometimes quite a lot gets 92 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: under Chris Luckson's skin. 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Tell you what, Let's have a look at the next 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: election though, see which of these two parties goes up 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: or retains as much of their their vote show and 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: we'll know which is the right approach to take. Hey, 97 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: so when is this David Seymore Willy Jackson debate going 98 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to happen? 99 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. Well, what David Seymour has said, 100 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: and I've had messages to him, to Dan, he's responded 101 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: that he's not going to debate Willie Jackson unless Willie 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Jackson apologize, apologizes for calling him a liar. Well, Jackson 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: refused to do that in the house, and remember he 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: has kicked out by Jerry Brownlee and Seymour would argue 105 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: that you've got to have better parliamentary standards and the 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: factor is hitter. It's quite easy for Willy Jackson to 107 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: get a debate with David Seymour simply by asking him 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: a question. 109 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: In the house. 110 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: In the House, and he's able to do that. Do 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: you know he's only done it once in the past year. Well, 112 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: I suggest to Willie he gets his thinking cap on, 113 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: sits down and comes up with a good question and 114 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: they can have a debate to and fro in the house. 115 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Right advice, actually, Barry, Thank you very much, barrisso for 116 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: seeing your political correspondent. 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 118 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio.