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Speaker 1: Devin Gray are UK correspondents with me. Now, Hi, Gevin,

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Speaker 1: Hi have what do we know about this terrorism plot

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Speaker 1: that's been foiled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like two different plots because the eight

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Speaker 2: who were arrested are being told that the one group

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Speaker 2: of five arrested around England, another group of three around London,

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Speaker 2: two separate police investigations, they're saying. But what we do

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Speaker 2: know is that seven of the eight arrested are Iranian.

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Speaker 2: They're still being questioned. They've been held overnight, They've been

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Speaker 2: questioned by counter terrorism investigators and if it's arrests under

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Speaker 2: the counter Terrorism Command then they could spend a fortnight

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Speaker 2: before either being released or charged with something. So the

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Speaker 2: police have got plenty of time on this. What's been

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Speaker 2: really interesting though about the arrests, apart from the fact

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Speaker 2: that they are Iranian, and we do know that just

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Speaker 2: a couple of years back, the head of MI five

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Speaker 2: that since twenty twenty two they had responded, the security

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Speaker 2: services had responded to twenty plots backed by Iran whiched

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Speaker 2: or presented potentially lethal threats to British citizens, and so

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Speaker 2: the threat from Iran ever growing, and perhaps this highlights this,

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Speaker 2: but the very fact these arrests were in daylight. The

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Speaker 2: very fact that they were done in one case, in

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Speaker 2: front of lots of people in a big town center

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Speaker 2: busy with shoppers, shows that obviously they thought time is

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Speaker 2: of the essence, that they needed to act now to

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Speaker 2: make the arrests before. Perhaps those plots were enacted, but

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Speaker 2: we simply don't know yet. We're waiting for more details.

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Speaker 1: Kevin. Can we say this is it for Harry? They're

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Speaker 1: not going to let him back into the royal fold

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Speaker 1: if he carries on like this, are they?

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Speaker 2: No? I think it's a really odd way giving an

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Speaker 2: interview to talk about how disappointed you are that you've

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Speaker 2: lost a court case, only to then start talking about

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Speaker 2: how your father, the King, Charles the third, doesn't talk

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Speaker 2: to you, and how frankly you know the royals he

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Speaker 2: would forgive them for various misdemeanors in the past, and

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Speaker 2: is said that the whole security issue that he's been

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Speaker 2: trying to overturn, which is a downturn in his security

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Speaker 2: level when he comes back to the UK, he said,

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Speaker 2: describes that as a security sort of stitch up, an

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Speaker 2: establishment stitch up. So no, this is not the way

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Speaker 2: to endear yourself to the rest of your family, and

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Speaker 2: at times he does seem I don't know, slightly desperate

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Speaker 2: in the interview and certainly very sad either way. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're all used to family disputes, but playing it out

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Speaker 2: in front of the world's media, let alone the world's people,

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Speaker 2: is certainly not the best way of going, and we

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Speaker 2: are not therefore expecting him at the V Day commemorations

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Speaker 2: taking part today and across this week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: listening that particular line where he said, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much longer my father has live. People are taking

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Speaker 1: as some sort of an insight into the king's diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: Should we I think it's very interesting because all the time,

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Speaker 2: whenever I get in touch with any of the media

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Speaker 2: press offices, they're always say, oh, no, the treatment's going

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Speaker 2: really well. We're really pleased, he's responding terribly well, doctors

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Speaker 2: are happy with him, etc. So the fact that his

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Speaker 2: own son is saying I don't know how much longer

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Speaker 2: he's got is a very odd turn of phrase to

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Speaker 2: use if what we're hearing about the doctors is correct.

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Speaker 2: So it does make you doubt that. But At the

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Speaker 2: same time, do you know what, I'm not entirely sure

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Speaker 2: how much Prince Harry knows about his father's health. Evidently,

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Speaker 2: if they're not talking and there are very few members

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Speaker 2: of the role family probably left talking to Prince Harry,

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Speaker 2: probably with the exception of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, Prince

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Speaker 2: Andrew's children, then I'm not quite sure how much detail

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Speaker 2: he would know about it. But either way, it does

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Speaker 2: perhaps make you think, oh, actually, perhaps this treatment isn't

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Speaker 2: going the way we thought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Hey, Gavin, thank you very much. Gevin Gray

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Speaker 1: are UK corresponding? Do you know I thought about that?

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, how much do you actually know? But

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Speaker 1: then think about your family. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but literally all of us children know this that if

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Speaker 1: we tell my mum anything and then tell her not

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Speaker 1: to tell the other one, she will tell the other one.

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Speaker 1: That's how we can sometimes get messages to each other

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Speaker 1: if we can't be bothered phone each other. I'm just

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Speaker 1: come back and don't tell Ian this, but blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: And then next minute Ian calls me. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: yeah she did today, she told you. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: she did. So I just feel like in the Royal family,

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Speaker 1: if King Charles is to if the diagnosis is terminal,

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Speaker 1: They're going to be talking about it, aren't they and

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Speaker 1: be like, don't tell anybody. But then somebody will have

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Speaker 1: told Beatrice and eugeney and then be interesting, Eugene will

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Speaker 1: tell Haz because they're still talking to him, so he

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Speaker 1: will know. He will know more than than they think

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Speaker 1: he knows maybe, but God only knows why he said

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Speaker 1: that anyways, because he's dumb. This is the thing. It's

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Speaker 1: a harsh truth. Some people are hot, some people are not.

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Speaker 1: Some people are clever, some people are dumb. And it

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Speaker 1: just is the way the cookie crumbles.

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