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Speaker 3: Sex News and Views you trust has Starne Your Day

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Speaker 3: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's furniture beds and a flying store.

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Speaker 1: News talk said, be honestly, they didn't spend so much

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Speaker 1: Doesn't the Navy have insurance for the boat that's sunk?

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Speaker 1: That sank? We will ask ron Mark. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: the Herald this morning. Fast Track to controversy. This is

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Speaker 1: This is mining of the Taarannaki Sea bed. There was

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Speaker 3: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and smit City New

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Speaker 1: News Talk said B. Fourteen minutes after five, news Talk

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Speaker 1: the Straterra Mining Chief executive. Josie, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: What do you say to the naysay is the opposition

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Speaker 1: who says this is going to wreck havoc on our environment?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I say progress and jobs are good.

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Speaker 4: Contributing to the global supply chain of minerals everyone needs

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Speaker 1: But the protections are greatly reduced for the environment. Ut

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Speaker 4: We don't believe that that will happen in mining, because

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Speaker 5: So we're not going to see standards slip.

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Speaker 5: Things happen faster and more efficiency.

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Speaker 4: So what we had before was a system where the

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Speaker 4: No, and I don't think there will be detrimental impacts

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Speaker 4: There's spent millions of dollars on science to show that

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Speaker 4: Any Well, the research in science that TTR of God

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Speaker 1: All right, Josie, thank you very much for your time

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Speaker 1: News Talk Zippy twenty two minutes after five, loads of

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Speaker 1: feedback coming in on the fast Track Bill, which the

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Speaker 1: government has named the projects. Now we have a list

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Speaker 1: Good morning, greetings, right and you a lot going on elsewhere?

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Speaker 1: But this is just rare territory. They've just got such poise.

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Speaker 6: that need to be addressed at some point? Cameron Munsters

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Speaker 6: is alleged to have been involved in a biting incident

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Speaker 1: any bloods?

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven after five News Talk ZIBB. Why the thinking

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Speaker 3: First with the News, First with the Views, its early

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Speaker 2: Good morning, It's five point thirty. I'm never ready.

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Speaker 1: Manu.

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Speaker 2: The longer the hm NZ it is Manawanui stays in

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Speaker 2: the ocean, the worst comes for the nearby environment. The

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Speaker 2: and sank off the Sarmon coast yesterday morning. All seventy

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Speaker 2: deployed to Sarmour to help the cleanup and aid the crew.

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Speaker 2: Marine ecologist Phil Ross says how badly the marine life

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Speaker 4: You know, it would have been a pretty spectacular place.

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Speaker 2: I imagine tragedy for the community. After a vehicle went

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Speaker 2: recovering the three bodies still inside. The government's making it

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Speaker 2: clear projects on its Fast Track Approvals Bill are not

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Speaker 2: set in stone. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop selected one hundred

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Speaker 2: renewed push for more tangible support for Palestinians from the government.

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Speaker 2: Today marks a year since the October seven harmactan on Israel,

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Speaker 2: Fire and Emergency have been using drones overnight to check

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Speaker 7: There is no active fire front and Fire and Emergency

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Speaker 2: A warning to Southland boaties to be aware of changing

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Speaker 6: Today's talks, he'd be sports Pendroth have secured the Estatus

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Speaker 6: is Australian League's greatest club team since nineteen sixty six,

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Speaker 6: claiming their fourth straight premiership fourteen to six over Melbourne

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Speaker 6: in the NRL Final. Second ra and Triscore Liam Martin

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Speaker 1: He was his initial reaction, oh.

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Speaker 6: Well before he collected his thoughts on Sky Sport.

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Speaker 1: Oh I've gone, then have your boys drag me along?

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Speaker 1: And then are you guys. The fans just love you, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: We don't hear.

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Speaker 6: coverage with Pitstop get a free warrantor fitness check with

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Speaker 6: fifty six in the third and final Dead Rubber Tiny

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Speaker 6: and in Vericago, the Silver Fern has lost third quarter

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Speaker 6: in Wellington on October twenty. Captain Amita and Eginasi has

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Speaker 6: told Sky Sport the Diamonds will require more application.

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Speaker 8: It'll just be figuring out what important things we've got

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Speaker 2: But we know we have to step up again and

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Speaker 6: eighth in her career, with a straight sets victory of

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Speaker 6: The twenty year old American became the youngest champion at

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Speaker 6: of seven victories in hardcore WTA finals. In Premier League Football,

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Speaker 6: Chelsea and Nottingham Forest have drawn one all. The Manchester

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Speaker 6: United and Aston Villa have drawn nil all. Tottenham lead

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Speaker 6: Brighton two nil at halftime. I'm Andrew Alderson and that's

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Speaker 6: News Talks. He'd be News and sport to twenty five

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Speaker 6: minutes to six.

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Speaker 1: That's apparently a worry something you should be concerned about

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Speaker 1: this morning, twenty two minutes away from six.

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Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge, going.

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Speaker 1: To our reporters around the country. Callum Proctor is in

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Speaker 1: the need and for us, Colum, we missed you on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Everything all right at your place.

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Speaker 9: Look a bit damp, Ryan, but certainly not as bad

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Speaker 9: as many other residents around the city. It's been a

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Speaker 9: weekend of cleaning up, that's for sure, after Friday's floods.

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Speaker 9: As of four o'clock yesterday, though here, Dunedin's state of

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Speaker 9: emergency was lifted, as was the case for the Kluther district.

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Speaker 9: Look the strain as we know, saw residents evacuated, roads closed,

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Speaker 9: many slips and also problems with water supply. Mayor Jills

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Speaker 9: Raddick says there's been a considerable number of slips. That's

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Speaker 9: their priority now with a few homes read sticket as

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Speaker 9: a result in the next few weeks of recovery for

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Speaker 9: that may take some time. He says, skips will be

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Speaker 9: dispose of sandbags and rubbish. State Highway eighty eight to

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Speaker 9: Port Charmers due to reopen at six o'clock this morning.

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Speaker 1: Callum, how is your weather looking today? I know you've

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Speaker 1: got some bad weather coming back later in the week,

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Speaker 1: but today.

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Speaker 9: Well showers this afternoon, some possibly thundery, says the Met Service,

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Speaker 9: so we'll keep an eye on them. Light wins today's

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Speaker 9: high seventeen.

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, thank you for that clear Surewards and

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Speaker 1: christ Church Claire. Good morning to you locals looking to

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Speaker 1: buy a slice of Banks Peninsula.

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Speaker 8: Yes, s Lebon's Bay Conservation Trust has been hoping to

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Speaker 8: raise four hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a thirty

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Speaker 8: nine hectare property on Old Wolf Road. Its intention is

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Speaker 8: to use this land to create a reserve, to do

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Speaker 8: some planting and also protect native wildlife. The Trust turned

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Speaker 8: to crowdfunding in order to raise the funds it needs.

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Speaker 4: Jefferson.

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Speaker 8: Matthew McDonald says, with two undred and seventy five thousand

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Speaker 8: dollars in the bag, it is clear that people want

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Speaker 8: to preserve the environment. That's exactly what he wanted, something

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Speaker 8: which will be a lasting legacy from the people of

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty five to the people of twenty one twenty five.

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Speaker 8: The trust has until March to raise the funds it needs.

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Speaker 8: McDonald's adamant they'll.

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Speaker 1: Get there all right. How's your weather today?

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Speaker 2: Clear, often cloudy.

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Speaker 8: There is the chance of some fog today, some afternoon

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Speaker 8: and evening showers, possibly heavy and thundery, light winds and

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Speaker 8: a maximum of twenty Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Lots of questions coming in on the Manawanui. Andrew and

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Speaker 1: Taranaki says, I have a question about this. How many

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Speaker 1: hells does a real navy ship have? How many hells

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Speaker 1: does the Manawannui have? I believe money was saved by

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Speaker 1: building it with a single hell. We bought it off.

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Speaker 1: Was it the Norwegians? We bought it off Norway. It

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Speaker 1: was a surveying ship for mining up in Norway. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to ask ron Mark all these questions right

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Speaker 1: now though, we're going to Claudia O'Neil for our Wellington

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Speaker 1: News Claudia, good morning. Wellington City Council starting to chase

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Speaker 1: down those who aren't paying their rates.

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Speaker 10: Yes, so a small number of disgruntled rates payers in

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Speaker 10: the capital are boycotting the twenty one percent average rates increase.

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Speaker 10: Pens and A. Julie roll Off and her her husband

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Speaker 10: have been living it in their home for their sorry

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Speaker 10: let me talk again, and her husband have been living

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Speaker 10: in their home for thirty years, but fear of rates

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Speaker 10: continue to increase, they won't be able to afford it anymore.

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Speaker 10: She's decided to take his stand and is refusing to

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Speaker 10: pay the increase, only paying her rates bill at last

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Speaker 10: year's level. A handful of other rate payers of following suit,

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Speaker 10: and the councils declining to comment.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, that sounds spicy. I say good on them.

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Speaker 1: But in the end the council does come for you,

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Speaker 1: don't they remember Penny Bright refused to pay rates and

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Speaker 1: then they said, well we'll take your house off you

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Speaker 1: Claudia House. See Wellington weather.

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Speaker 10: Today cloudy, curious hours later in the day and a

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Speaker 10: high of sixteen degree.

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Speaker 1: Thank you neveras and Auckland. Good morning, Neva, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Claudia's leaving so I'm going to grab her here because

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Speaker 2: time's a tough one. We've only got one cheer. Came

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Speaker 2: back from Wellington.

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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yes, right nice, yeah nephews twenty First.

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Speaker 2: Can I say I missed the quake. I slept through it.

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Speaker 2: I was parting till two am, and then I went

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Speaker 2: back to the hotel room and went to sleep. I know,

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Speaker 2: and then I thought, is that a noise? I thought

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Speaker 2: it was the next door, you know that the people

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Speaker 2: next door. I thought it was the headboard. I went,

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Speaker 2: is that people next door?

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Speaker 1: And I went, is it? And then I went back

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Speaker 1: to sleep.

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Speaker 2: And then when I woke up at eight am, everyone

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Speaker 2: or there was so many terist there for a while.

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Speaker 2: I was really good vibe there in Wellington, and everyone

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Speaker 2: in the hotel was talking about it. They were all

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Speaker 2: quite shaken. Eye said, what about you miss Did you

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Speaker 2: feel it? I mean I missed it completely.

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Speaker 7: I was fast asleep.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's probably a good thing. Hey, how's the weather?

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Speaker 1: In Auckland today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well look there's a oh the weather rain possibly heavy,

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Speaker 2: was scawny, thunderstorms turning to showers this morning, then easing

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. Bit of a mixed bad but we've got

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Speaker 2: strong winds as well. Still warm, high of twenty quite Maggie.

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Speaker 1: Last night I have to say in bed sixteen and

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Speaker 1: a half degrees at midnight.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 11: And because it's currently sixteen now.

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Speaker 1: Oh so basically the same thing. Neva, Thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for that. That's Neva in Auckland for us and

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Speaker 1: our reporters around the country, eighteen minutes away from six

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Speaker 1: just before six. Ron Mark on the Manamanui. Also next,

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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray out of the UK. You're on news Talk

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Speaker 1: Look at the monominerin a sick and right now. Though

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Speaker 1: Gavin Gray is in the UK, here's how you can

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Speaker 1: Europe correspondent Gavin good morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Morning there.

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Speaker 1: Tell us there's been a resignation at Number ten.

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Speaker 12: Yes, Sue Gray. Now she's not an MP, she's not

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Speaker 12: a member of the cabinet. She is instead the chief

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Speaker 12: of staff for Secure Starmer or should I say our

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Speaker 12: Prime Minister's former chief of staff. Because she has resigned

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Speaker 12: she was caught up in lots of rows about pay

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Speaker 12: materialized she was being paid more than the Prime minister.

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Speaker 12: That was leaked by dissatisfied colleagues who had actually taken

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Speaker 12: a pay cup. And also it was really last few

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Speaker 12: weeks have been dominated by freebies, by the donations given

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Speaker 12: to the Prime Minister, his wife and indeed to other

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Speaker 12: ministers that I don't know, many say not been handled

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Speaker 12: very well. So Sue Gray is going to move to

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Speaker 12: a new role as the Prime Minister's Envoy for Nations

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Speaker 12: and Regions. But make no mistake her resignation, she said,

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Speaker 12: was because she'd become a distraction to the part of

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Speaker 12: the government. There will be plenty of people in the

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Speaker 12: opposition benches who were in government who will be delighted.

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Speaker 12: After all, Sue Gray led the investigation into parties at

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Speaker 12: Downing Street, which ultimately led to Boris Johnson's downfall.

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Speaker 1: Interesting move, isn't it. Let's go to the situation in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. The Israeli Prime Minister leshing out at

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Speaker 1: Emanuel Machrom.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 12: So the seventh of October is the first anniversary of

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Speaker 12: Hammers's attack on Israel, in which about two hundred people

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Speaker 12: were killed in two hundred and fifty one taken hostage.

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Speaker 12: So it was an odd time for the French President

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Speaker 12: Emmanuel Macron to call for a holt on arms deliveries

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Speaker 12: to Israel for use in Gaza. Immediately, the Israeli Prime

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Speaker 12: Minister Benjamin Yetnaho hit back, saying effectively, this is shame

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Speaker 12: on them. He said, Israel will win with or without

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Speaker 12: their support, calling it a disgrace. Well, the French have

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Speaker 12: hit back saying that France is a steadfast friend of

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Speaker 12: Israel and that Netanyah whose reaction is excessive and detached

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Speaker 12: from the friendship between France and Israel. Will others, however,

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Speaker 12: begin to make plain their feelings on the matter. Will

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Speaker 12: America change heart with its tactics, Well not at the moment,

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Speaker 12: but I think this gives some indication ran as to

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Speaker 12: how upset frustrated so many in the European ranks are

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Speaker 12: and whether it'll make any difference, of course, to Benjamin Mettnia,

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Speaker 12: who is a completely different question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly, as thank you for that. Givin gray are UK,

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Speaker 1: your correspondent just gone nine minutes away from Sex and

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Speaker 1: Bridge Rich So the Mona Minui has sunk Defense Minister

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Speaker 1: Judith Collins at the press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 4: This could have been a truly terrible day, but actually

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Speaker 4: it's a bad day.

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Speaker 1: Purchased in twenty eighteen from Norway, it was used in

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Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry there. It cost US one

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Speaker 1: hundred and three million dollars to buy and convert into

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Speaker 1: a navy ship which was ready for service in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: The guy who signed the cabinet paper to get that

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Speaker 1: done was Ron Mark, former Defense Minister. He's with us

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Speaker 1: live this morning. Ron. Good morning, Good morning Ryan.

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Speaker 5: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, thank you? How are you feeling about this?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm gutted. IM pretty sad and I guess you

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Speaker 5: know fair to say this one hurt not just for

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Speaker 5: me but for my entire for my former ministerial staff team.

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Speaker 5: We work at butts off on a range of cabinet

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Speaker 5: papers at that time and brought into service, upgraded the frigates.

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Speaker 5: We bought this ship into service. We completed the project

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Speaker 5: that former government had started with Altro introduced that vessel

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Speaker 5: into service as well. To lose a ship that brought

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Speaker 5: such an amazing capability to the Royal New Zealand Navy

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Speaker 5: into New Zealand as a whole, which quietly stunned a

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Speaker 5: lot of our Five Eyes and other partners because of

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Speaker 5: its capability and the innovation and thinking that was behind

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Speaker 5: its purchase. Yeah, lose that ship. We knew it should

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Speaker 5: be a stopgap for about fifteen minute fifteen years, not

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Speaker 5: fifteen minutes and fifteen year stop gap to cover the

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Speaker 5: resolution and the former money were knowing one being a

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Speaker 5: survey ship, the other being the dive ship. We thought

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Speaker 5: it was a very innovative and smart purchase and get

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Speaker 5: cabinet sign off was a wonderful thing, and particularly at

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Speaker 5: that time because I'd been left with a bit of

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Speaker 5: a disaster with a frigate system's upgrade and a project

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Speaker 5: which had gone over one hundred and forty million because

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Speaker 5: it had been stalled for ten years, sitting there waiting

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Speaker 5: for the government, the previous government to sign off on it,

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Speaker 5: and we had to fill find money from somewhere. We've

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Speaker 5: pulled the money out of the latoral vessel that was

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Speaker 5: meant to be purchased and put it in to sign

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Speaker 5: off the FSH and get that done. And then we

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Speaker 5: bought bought Mono Nui or Eda from as she was

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Speaker 5: known back then.

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Speaker 1: In a way hugely important asset to us. What are

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Speaker 1: you hearing about what went wrong?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a bit dangerous for me to even repeat

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Speaker 5: any of the speculation that's out there, because Ryan, as

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Speaker 5: you know, the Navy will stand up a court of inquiry,

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Speaker 5: a convenient officer will clearly be the chief of Navy.

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Speaker 5: He will be looking for people the right expertise. I'd

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Speaker 5: expect that within forty eight hours there will be an

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Speaker 5: announcement on that. I'd expect it it'll be very, very quick,

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Speaker 5: because they want to ascertain exactly how and why the

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Speaker 5: ship ended up in peril and sinking the way it did.

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Speaker 5: I guess they'll know that we've got to wait to

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Speaker 5: hear the results of that court are acquiring. As a

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Speaker 5: former Minister of Defense, it wouldn't do meaning good to

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Speaker 5: be speculating in the media and corrupting the process.

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Speaker 1: No, fair enough, one quick question on that process. Could

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Speaker 1: a commanding office a big court martialed for something like that? If?

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't even want to spark fair conversation around that,

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Speaker 5: because all right now, I'd say the commanding of the

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Speaker 5: Skipper will be feeling it really really hard now. One

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Speaker 5: of the things I do know is that the skipper

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Speaker 5: made a call, a very tough call, which some might

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Speaker 5: have thought was a bit premature. But at the end

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Speaker 5: of the day, everyone got off that vessel. No one died,

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Speaker 5: and the vessel did go to the bottom. And yet

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Speaker 5: well show disadvantage. Yeah, well it.

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Speaker 1: Just goes to show that it was the right call

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Speaker 1: in the end, wasn't it. And seventy five souls are

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Speaker 1: living today to tell the tale. Ron, thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for that. That's Ron Mark, former Defense minister with US.

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Speaker 1: He's signed off on the cabinet paper to upgrade and

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Speaker 1: bring that in from Norway. It is eight minutes away

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Speaker 1: from six.

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Speaker 3: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's

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Speaker 3: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture,

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Speaker 3: beds and a playing store. You've talk Sidby.

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Speaker 1: Five away from six. Roy has a novel approach on smoking.

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Speaker 1: He says, just make smokes two dollars a packet for

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Speaker 1: adults and stop ripping people off.

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Speaker 11: You see this debate about Ryan. Hello, it's Heather here.

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Speaker 1: I'm like one of those welcome yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 11: I'm like one of those people that just joins the

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Speaker 11: phone conversation like your husband's on the phone and the

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Speaker 11: speaker and you just chip in, that's me right now,

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Speaker 11: you've tried. The debate is about these.

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Speaker 1: What are they called coss Have you ever tried? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I have tried one of them.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I tried them two like years and years ago.

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Speaker 11: Because I've actually been on the market for eight yes,

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Speaker 11: and because I used to smoke when I was young,

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Speaker 11: like twenty years ago, and so from time to time,

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Speaker 11: you know, you have a couple of beers and then

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Speaker 11: you think, oh, that would be loveling. No, it's not

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Speaker 11: a good idea. And one time it was actually I

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Speaker 11: think with an employee of Philip Morris and tried it.

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Speaker 11: And I don't really understand the argument quite. I mean,

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Speaker 11: this is not science, but I can kind of see

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Speaker 11: how Casey Costello could say that they may not be

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Speaker 11: as harmful as Siggi's because it's not nearly as harsh

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Speaker 11: as a SIGI when.

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Speaker 1: You know, tried it, as can she prove it right?

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Speaker 1: And that's what the whole debate is about. And what

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Speaker 1: evidence is she using to prove it? We've just had

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Speaker 1: case the Cassell on the show.

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Speaker 11: To that point. Can I say also to that point,

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Speaker 11: we can't say that vaping is less harmful than smoking.

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Speaker 1: We don't have long term well I know, we don't

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Speaker 1: have long term right right.

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Speaker 11: It'd be just as bad, if not worth your smoking.

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Speaker 11: But it's bringing all these weird chemicals in.

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Speaker 1: But if you do it, you know it, do you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? And feel as Yeah, no, it doesn't.

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Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying. Right, So SIGI is like your

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Speaker 11: nuclear option of yuckness. Then the Q cost or whatever

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Speaker 11: it's called, like whatever, you know, that thing that's less,

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Speaker 11: and then the vaping feels less as well.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, what are you doing today?

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Speaker 11: We're going to talk to the Chief Executive Health New

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Speaker 11: Zealand after seven o'clock because a five hundred million dollar

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Speaker 11: surplus in May turned into a billion dollar deficit for

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Speaker 11: the jude How does that happen?

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Speaker 1: Quite messy? All right, we'll look forward to that. Heather

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Speaker 1: with your next have a great weekend. I'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Monday.

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Speaker 12: Bye bye.

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