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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on Heather du for see Ellen drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand, let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be good afternoon coming up. Farmac's boss quits on

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Speaker 3: a Friday afternoon Chair Paula Bennett tells us why now

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop wants developers paying more for roads and pipes.

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Speaker 3: Gene Hackman legendary actor. How did he die? How did

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Speaker 3: were they all found at the same time? Will Cross

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Speaker 3: live to Hollywood? Nikki Starrs and Matt Brown are on

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Speaker 3: these sports huddle tonight.

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Speaker 2: Bridge.

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Speaker 3: You've got to hand it to the Brits today, don't

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Speaker 3: you What a performance they put on at the White

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Speaker 3: House For a president who loves flattery, loves pomp, and

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Speaker 3: loves a bit of ceremony, who doesn't, Frankly, what else

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Speaker 3: do you bring a billionaire president who's got everything but

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Speaker 3: a letter from the King And it was an invite

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Speaker 3: the King and said, this is unprecedented. Trump was beside

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Speaker 3: front of the world's media. Great move. Of course, he

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Speaker 3: Starmer is appealing to Trump's ego. He's shelling out sixteen

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Speaker 3: And it is hard to argue with that. Trump's speeches

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Speaker 3: They're designed to shake the tree, to rattle the tree

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Speaker 3: Trump's anti diplomacy gets results. Ryan Bridge, nine minutes after

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Speaker 3: is a doozy Wellington City Council ripped out car parks

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Speaker 3: for cycle ways near the botanical gardens. You'll know the

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Speaker 3: Hi Diane, Hi Ryan. What a mess?

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Speaker 4: Well, yes it is, but just because it's a mess

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Speaker 4: And that's what we're that's what we're trying to do,

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Speaker 3: Did you vote for this.

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Speaker 4: Originally? No, because I had listened to a lot of

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Speaker 3: And who was telling you that it would that this

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Speaker 3: Well, but you guys have Wellington hasn't found the balance.

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Speaker 3: I've got my family lives in Wellington. I spent a

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Speaker 3: Who's the cycle mafia down there? Because they must be

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Speaker 3: STA It doesn't sound like it, Diane, bring back the

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Speaker 3: car parks. Good luck with that, Diane Calverts and Wellington

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Speaker 3: City councilor nine two nineties the number to text. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: The only other option is to go through Thornton Key.

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Speaker 3: thirteen after four news talks. Here Big Jason Pine. Here

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Speaker 3: Sixteen after four news Talks EBB. Dan Mitchison's coming away

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Speaker 3: Pines here weekend sports host. Hey, Jason gid a Ryan. Now,

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Speaker 3: the NRL season underway on Sunday twenty twenty five. Is

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 7: This is probably the twenty fifth time that question has

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Speaker 7: and you think, well, actually that's a big chunk taken out.

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Speaker 7: to build them up ahead of Weekend One. Ryan, as

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Speaker 7: you can probably tell, I think their favorites to beat

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Speaker 7: there is quite sensational. But look, long season, is it

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Speaker 3: Right across twenty twenty five. How many thousands and thousands

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, and I think a few have come from all

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Speaker 3: How any upsets you think coming for Super Rugby Round three?

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Speaker 7: I've just had a look and I'm thinking maybe on

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Speaker 7: the on the odds, the Blues are favorites, are favorite

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Speaker 7: two They've lost both of their games so far the season.

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Speaker 7: The Hurricanes are at home at Sky Stadium. They haven't

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm Hurricanes fans, so I kind of have

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Speaker 7: If the Blues are oh and three after three games,

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Speaker 7: you know that's getting into you know, not absolutely concerning territory,

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Speaker 7: but for the defending champions, they'd want to be doing

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Speaker 7: a bit better than that. And I actually don't mind

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Speaker 7: more one a Pacifica tonight against the Highlanders. Highlanders beat

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Speaker 3: Me Good afternoon, twenty five way five year News Talks dB.

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Speaker 3: This is your Friday afternoon at TV and ZI has

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Speaker 3: Letter, very very special. Indeed, another memorable moment from Sirkias

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of acronyms in this business, and.

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Speaker 3: Magic Merry, who's the fairest of them all?

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Speaker 3: All Right, Dan Ititston's a US correspondent. Hi Dan, Hey,

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Speaker 16: This is just such a fascinating the case. At first,

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk all about the Jeffrey Epstein files that

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Speaker 16: We kept waiting and waiting and waiting, and then they

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 16: And these are really just names. The President's name, by

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Speaker 16: going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just finally, we've spoken a lot of this afternoon

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Speaker 3: already about President Trump and the UK Prime Minister Sakis Dama.

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Speaker 3: What is the American priestmaking of the meeting?

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Speaker 16: Well, I think, like you said, I mean, there's nobody

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Speaker 16: that says no to President Trump. Really, I think people

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Speaker 16: are and I and I have no disrespect to the

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Speaker 16: British PM, but I think people are actually looking beyond

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Speaker 16: him too tomorrow when President Trump is going to meet

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Speaker 16: with Ukraine's president to sign this minerals deal. But as

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Speaker 16: for today, I think there were a lot of questions.

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Speaker 16: One reporter had asked whether he and the PM and

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Speaker 16: the President had discussed the desire to annex Canada as

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Speaker 16: the fifty first state, and and the PM said, I

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Speaker 16: think you're trying to find a divide between us. It

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Speaker 16: doesn't exist. And Trump just kind of blew that reporter

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Speaker 16: way and let's let's let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 16: But while the interaction I think was very friendly, very chummy,

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Speaker 16: although there was one point where the President was corrected

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Speaker 16: by the British Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: But it seemed to go pretty well.

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Speaker 3: I would say, interesting stuff, Dan, Thanks so much for that,

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitchson. Now US correspondent time is just one eighteen

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Speaker 3: minutes away from five. Here's the audio by the way

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Speaker 3: of the nine one one called Americans are so crazy,

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Speaker 3: Like you just have a crime committed, or you have

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Speaker 3: an investigation launched by the police, and within you know,

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes, you've got all of their files, all of

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Speaker 3: their photos, all of their audio. Here is the nine

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Speaker 3: to one one call reporting the death of Gene Hackman

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Speaker 3: and his wife Betsy. Are they awake?

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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Are they breathing?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm not inside the house. It's closed.

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Speaker 2: It's a long as I can't go in.

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Speaker 1: But I see them let police laying down on from

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Speaker 1: the window or alerts. No no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Are they moving not all no, dude, They're not moving.

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Speaker 2: Just seen somebody up here really quick.

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Speaker 3: That was the caretaker of the home. Gene Hackman was

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Speaker 3: ninety five years old. Seventeen to five. Barry Soper is

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Speaker 3: here next.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centric credit. Check your customers and get payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: It is quarter to five news talk z B, which

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Speaker 3: means you've got fifteen actual an hour and fifteen minutes

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Speaker 3: if you've got some fairies you'd like to sell to

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Speaker 3: the government. Just very Soper is here, senior political correspondent,

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Speaker 3: Hey Barry.

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Speaker 6: No, you've got an hour and fifteen. Actually it closes

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Speaker 6: at six o'clock, so you've got more time.

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Speaker 17: If you want to submit to build an inter island ferry,

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Speaker 17: then you know you've got an hour and a courter

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Speaker 17: now to convince Treasury, who will then put up a

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Speaker 17: case to the government. Interestingly, the board Faery Holdings Board.

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Speaker 17: I don't know whether you noticed it. A couple of

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Speaker 17: weeks ago the membership was announced. Heather Simpson is on it,

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Speaker 17: Helen Clark's former chief of staff. Yes, that's right, So

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Speaker 17: there'll be in making decisions in late March about the

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Speaker 17: best proposal it comes forward now. Winston Peters of course,

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Speaker 17: as a Minister of Rail and that was at his

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Speaker 17: behest when Nichola Willis had something ready to go last December,

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Speaker 17: it was canned. The ferry contract. You remember that the

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Speaker 17: Labor government had negotiated was Kent' and now they're looking

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Speaker 17: at reparation. This is my high Undi Mipu is looking

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Speaker 17: now for some sort of payout clause. Winston just happens

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Speaker 17: to be in Korea and he's going to be meeting

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Speaker 17: with this particular company now, dare I say it, he's

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Speaker 17: like another deal maker that is in the international news

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Speaker 17: at the moment. But the thing about Winston's deal, if

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Speaker 17: he can strike one with the contract that was canceled, we'll.

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Speaker 3: Never know how much we saved exactly.

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Speaker 6: We don't know how much was outlaid in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Jegy Pokery.

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Speaker 17: Whatever happens Ryan, my view is that Winston will claim

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Speaker 17: it's a great success, We've saved hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 17: But of course the public will never really know, and

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Speaker 17: they're not likely to get an argument from Nikola Willis

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Speaker 17: because that's the deal that coalition partners have. Don't argue

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Speaker 17: too publicly with each other.

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Speaker 3: That's right, and don't ask, don't tell, basically exactly Chinese.

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Speaker 3: This is fascinating from the Foreign Minister in the Chinese

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Speaker 3: Foreign Minister in Australia who's come out and basically said, yes,

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Speaker 3: we were there in your waters. Nothing to apologize for

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Speaker 3: and we're becoming more thank you? Is the Chinese ambassador

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Speaker 3: actually forgive me?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, because Winston don't forget. He's met with the Chinese

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Speaker 17: Foreign minister in Beijing and clearly that was discussed, no doubt,

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Speaker 17: and he said, you know, not only that the Cork

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Speaker 17: Island's issue was discussed as well. We won't know publicly,

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Speaker 17: of course, exactly what was said, but i'd imagine that

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Speaker 17: Winston would say how disappointed New Zealand was, particularly with

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Speaker 17: this exercise by three Chinese warships off the coast of

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Speaker 17: Australia in the Tasman Sea, not that far away from

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Speaker 17: New Zealand. But the Chinese, the ambassador says, they've got

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Speaker 17: nothing to apologize for. They were operating in international waters.

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Speaker 17: They conducted live firing, but he said, we don't have

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Speaker 17: to buy international law give warnings of that. Nevertheless, above

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Speaker 17: airlines had to divert flights because they were concerned about it.

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Speaker 17: But the Chinese are not going to apologize. Indeed, what

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Speaker 17: they say is there'll be more exercises in the Tasman

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Speaker 17: by China, so they're not going back on that, no doubt.

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Speaker 17: We'll see more activity in the Taiwanese Straits at some stage.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we will. Now the action was all at

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Speaker 3: the White House and we both watched this press conference, Berry,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure you had a similar reaction to me

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Speaker 3: with Kiers Starmer just really laying it on thick.

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Speaker 6: It's amazing, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: That look I never really knew kissed kiss starma, I

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Speaker 17: must say. And you know I thought he's a labor

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Speaker 17: prime minister, a bit boring, but look, he's really come in.

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Speaker 2: To his eye.

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Speaker 3: He has.

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Speaker 17: He was sitting so close to Donald Trump. He is

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Speaker 17: touching him on the shoulder on the old occasion, on

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Speaker 17: the arm, you know, in a friendly sort of a way.

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Speaker 17: But it was during the meeting, interestingly, that Starmer appealed

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Speaker 17: to Trump's to Trump to reach a historic peace deal

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Speaker 17: with the Ukraine, and he said that there can't be

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Speaker 17: peace that rewards the aggressor. Now that was quite, you know, provocative,

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Speaker 17: I've thought for the British Prime minister to say. But

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Speaker 17: he flattered and flatted Donald Trump so much that he

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Speaker 17: could have said anything to the man sitting alongside him.

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Speaker 17: Of course, in the Oval office, Starmer was most invivial

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Speaker 17: and he reached into a suit pocket at one stage

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Speaker 17: and pulled out a letter and presented the President with it.

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Speaker 6: From King Charles. Trump read it before asking the British

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Speaker 6: Prime Minister to read a bit from it. Perhaps you'd

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Speaker 6: like to say what that very important paragraph.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so this is a letter from his much Dave,

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Speaker 11: the King. It's an invitation for a second stage visit.

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Speaker 2: This is really special. This has never happened before.

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Speaker 11: This is unprecedented, and I think that just symbolizes the

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Speaker 11: strength of the relationship between us. So this is a

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Speaker 11: very special letter. I think the last state visit was

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Speaker 11: a tremendous success. His match, the King wants to make

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Speaker 11: this even better than that.

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Speaker 2: So this is this is truly my story.

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Speaker 6: A talk about laying on with the trial.

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Speaker 17: I laughed that you played that Graham about Orcus and

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Speaker 17: Trump not knowing what it meant. But the other thing

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Speaker 17: was he was asked whether he thought that Zelenski, who

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Speaker 17: will be meeting the Ukrainian president later today, asked him

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Speaker 17: whether he thought he was a dictator, and he replied,

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Speaker 17: did I say that, I can't believe I said.

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Speaker 3: That He's a memory I said earlier, I said Trump

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Speaker 3: is the oratory equivalent of a bullet. He just says anything,

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Speaker 3: and as he's just demonstrated, doesn't know what he's seen.

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Speaker 6: I can't remember, so we can't hold him accountable.

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Speaker 3: Execut Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent here at News talks'd

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Speaker 3: be heaving Dury Friday afternoon. Berry, it's coming up to

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Speaker 3: nine minutes away from five here on Zaid B Coming

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Speaker 3: up after five, We're going to talk to Paula Bennett

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Speaker 3: about FARMAC because the chief executive has quit. Now Paula

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Speaker 3: Bennet's taken over as chair. Why has she quit? Why

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Speaker 3: is she going? Why is she staying for two months

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Speaker 3: then going on guardingly for two months before leaving. We'll

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Speaker 3: ask Paula Bennett.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast the power business.

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Speaker 18: Heading to another winter applies increases in cold implortation. Energy

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Speaker 18: Minister Simon Wattson's with us. How worried about winter are you?

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Speaker 13: I am worried, Mike. Situation's pretty acute. I think most

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Speaker 13: people know it's pretty dry out there at the moment,

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Speaker 13: Like levels are lower than what they were at this

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Speaker 13: time last year. We still haven't got guest supplied that

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Speaker 13: means that it's going to be a tight winter.

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Speaker 18: Did you say what you see because you needed to

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Speaker 18: say it or just full some headlines? In other words,

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Speaker 18: are they scurrelous and are now going to have to

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Speaker 18: tidy their ACKed up? Or were they decent players?

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Speaker 13: Anyway, Look, Mike, the circumstances changed. We need some action

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Speaker 13: and we need to see everyone playing their part. We

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Speaker 13: need more generation, but we also need a competitive market.

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Speaker 18: Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: the Rain drove of the last News.

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Speaker 3: Talk ZB just gone five away from five here on

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. Great to have your company on this

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Speaker 3: Friday afternoon. As somebody who's texted and pointing out, this

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Speaker 3: is from Christian. This is about the death of Gene

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Speaker 3: Hackman over in Santa Fe in New Mexico and the

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Speaker 3: United States. Hey, Ryian. The emergency call that you played

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Speaker 3: earlier from the gardener who found the bodies at the

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Speaker 3: house said the house was locked, so he was wondering.

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Speaker 3: The caller was asking can you see them or hear

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Speaker 3: them breathing, or check for a pulse, and he said

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Speaker 3: the door's locker can't get in. But earlier the correspondent.

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Speaker 3: You rightly point out Christian said that the door was open,

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Speaker 3: so we don't worry. We're doing more on this because

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Speaker 3: it's a fascinating story. You kind of want to figure

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Speaker 3: out exactly what went wrong when you've got a ninety

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Speaker 3: five year old green hackman, you've got his wife, Betsy

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Speaker 3: the pianist, and you've got the dog all dead in

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Speaker 3: the same house, but in different locations within the same house.

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Speaker 3: Very very strange circumstances. We'll do more on that at

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Speaker 3: quarter past five. Ryan Bridge just gone four minutes too. Now,

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Speaker 3: have you ever lost your keyfob for your car? I

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Speaker 3: lost mine the other week, actually my partner's car, which

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Speaker 3: is an old BMW like an old one, but it's

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Speaker 3: got a key fob, and it cost us nine hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: There was an article in the news today. If you've

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Speaker 3: got a VDUB, you can pay around six hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: for a new one, six hundred and eighty dollars for

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Speaker 3: a Toyota Corolla one, and apparently for a fat punto

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Speaker 3: you'll pay about four hundred dollars. Question is, why are

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Speaker 3: they so goddamn expensive? Because you just want to I

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Speaker 3: mean and what's wrong with a key? You know what

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Speaker 3: is wrong with a good old fashioned key, A lot cheaper. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. Apparently there is a good reason.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. It's got a little bit to

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Speaker 3: do with microchips. That's coming up after five. You're on

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Speaker 3: News Talks V.

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy Allen Drive

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Speaker 3: Be good E being seven after five on your Friday

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Speaker 3: afternoon and battled FARMAC chief executive Sarah Fitt is gone.

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Speaker 3: She's resigned. She's been there for about seven years. In

655
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Speaker 3: that time, huge controversy of course, the uproar just most

656
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Speaker 3: recently the switching of the menopause patches. She's been accused

657
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Speaker 3: of making patients feel they were being treated with contempt,

658
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Speaker 3: and she also exchanged emails with staff where they insulted

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Speaker 3: the critics in the media. You'll remember that Paula Bennett

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Speaker 3: is the FARMAC chair Paula, Hello, Hi Ryan, thanks for

661
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Speaker 3: being with me. Did Sarah resign of her own accord

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Speaker 3: or did you force her out?

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Speaker 16: No?

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Speaker 5: She signed she resigned of her own accord. You know,

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Speaker 5: she reflected over summer and seven years in the CE

666
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Speaker 5: role and twelve years at FARMAC. I think she just

667
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Speaker 5: sort of came made the decision that it was time

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Speaker 5: to move on.

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Speaker 3: She held on through a lot of flack though, didn't she.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of pressure on her

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Speaker 3: to resign for a long time. What's is something suddenly happened.

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Speaker 5: Or No, I don't think so. I think she's incredibly

673
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Speaker 5: proud of the work that FARMAC has done, particularly in

674
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Speaker 5: the last sort of eight months since they got the

675
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Speaker 5: uplift and budget, I mean, fifty seven more medicines, you know,

676
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Speaker 5: going to literally tens of thousands of New Zealanders, and

677
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Speaker 5: you know she's led that work. So I think, you know,

678
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Speaker 5: from her perspective, she's going out feeling like she's done,

679
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Speaker 5: you know, some pretty remarkable work in a short period

680
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Speaker 5: of time and over the years. And that the timing's

681
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Speaker 5: kind of right.

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Speaker 3: She's going on leave for tub so from for April

683
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Speaker 3: and May she'll be on leave and then finishing in May.

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Speaker 3: Why is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's part of you know, leave during a notice

686
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Speaker 5: period is within contractual negotiations, so that's absolutely fine. We

687
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Speaker 5: thought a month so that we get the acting and

688
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Speaker 5: you know, make sure we're all tidy there, and then

689
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Speaker 5: you know it is, it's changed, right, so let's get

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Speaker 5: on with it. And in that context, I think that

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Speaker 5: her being on garden garden leaves and entirely appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Oh so it's gardening leave. Is she and gardening leave immediately?

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Speaker 5: Then as of late from the thirty eighth of March,

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Speaker 5: so she'll be in the office for March and then

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Speaker 5: April May is she's on garden leave.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's weird, isn't it. Normally you do gardening leave

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Speaker 3: straight away.

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Speaker 5: No, I just needed to I really need a month,

699
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Speaker 5: and she really wanted to do another month and finish

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Speaker 5: off a couple of projects and make sure that that's

701
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Speaker 5: all tidy and then but she'd given the three months notice,

702
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Speaker 5: so we just sort of felt that, yes, she might

703
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Speaker 5: have gone leave.

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Speaker 3: Okay, does this mean a major cultural shift is happening

705
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Speaker 3: or is about to happen? Yes to what it does?

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Speaker 5: You know things, well, things have to change, right, there's

707
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Speaker 5: just you know, no two ways about it. And it's

708
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Speaker 5: not all farm ex faults. But you know, the got

709
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Speaker 5: themselves into a situation where there weren't great relationships with

710
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Speaker 5: the whole lot of the external stakeholders. There weren't being

711
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Speaker 5: as transparent and open. We're effectively, you know, working on

712
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Speaker 5: a model that was put in a nineteen ninety one

713
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Speaker 5: and so we need to be refreshing, resetting, and that

714
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Speaker 5: is going to look quite different. I think you see

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Speaker 5: a very different organization by the end of this year.

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Speaker 3: Do you need more money still, I mean, I suppose

717
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Speaker 3: you could always have more money, but the way that

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Speaker 3: you've shaped that you're going to shape the organization, Will

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Speaker 3: that mean that you get more drugs with the same money.

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Speaker 5: Not really, not really, It just means hopefully some will

721
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Speaker 5: be faster, our processes will be more efficient, will be

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Speaker 5: engaging with people earlier in a more transparent way. But

723
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Speaker 5: of course we need more money for more medicines. You know,

724
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Speaker 5: we're still far too far behind countries. You know, the

725
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Speaker 5: similar ELK can still get access to medicines that we can't,

726
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Speaker 5: and that's because we know. We spend every dollar of

727
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Speaker 5: that budget and do everything we can and save as

728
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Speaker 5: much as we can. But we've got a lot more

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Speaker 5: to do if we want to be world leading.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, do Paula, thanks your time. Paula being a chair

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Speaker 3: of Farmac and battled Farmac chief executive Sarah Fitt resigned today,

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Speaker 3: Bears is text into the program. Come on, you know

733
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Speaker 3: that she was pushed. It's as obvious as the nose

734
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Speaker 3: on your face. I say good ridance to her and

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Speaker 3: certainly wouldn't be giving her the gardening leaves as Bears

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Speaker 3: just gone eleven minutes after five. Ryan Bridge government has

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Speaker 3: announced a rafter changes. It should make it easier for

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Speaker 3: local councils to finance infrastructure around new housing developments. Currently

739
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Speaker 3: rate payers are left picking up the tab for sewage lines,

740
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Speaker 3: local streets and water. Changes will in theory ensure that

741
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Speaker 3: developers are paying their affairs share. Christ Bishop's the infrastructure minister.

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Speaker 3: He's announced it today, minister, welcome, good afternoon. So at

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Speaker 3: the moment, what is the shortfall at the moment between

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Speaker 3: what the developers are paying to the councils and what

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Speaker 3: the councils are having to make up.

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Speaker 19: It will vary from development to development. Just give you

747
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Speaker 19: an example I talked about in the speech today at

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Speaker 19: at Drury. The Auckland Council's short three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 19: million dollars because there's a development going on out there,

750
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Speaker 19: and the way the rules work is complicated. But the

751
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Speaker 19: way the rules work is they could only charge development

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Speaker 19: contributions on a very small amount of the development, and

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Speaker 19: they're short about three thirty million, So all of that's

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Speaker 19: being paid for by every other ratepayer, when in reality

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Speaker 19: it should be falling on the developers and also the

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Speaker 19: beneficiaries of the new housing. And that's that's why we're

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Speaker 19: changing the system today to move to a more flexible

758
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Speaker 19: levy based system.

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Speaker 3: What about places like the one that you're describing with

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Speaker 3: is already a shortfall. There's a place out west we've

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Speaker 3: found around a few developers today at wis whether it's

762
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Speaker 3: so bad they haven't planned obviously, haven't planned for all this,

763
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Speaker 3: and they having to use wagons in some areas to

764
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Speaker 3: remove waste. I mean, what do you do about those situations?

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Speaker 19: That's precisely the problem we're trying to solve. Right so

766
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Speaker 19: that the funding system for infrastructure for housing is broken,

767
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Speaker 19: you've got under recovery of the growth charges. We're not

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Speaker 19: planning ahead far enough when it comes to wastewater and

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Speaker 19: storm water, for example, and that's because the system underlying it,

770
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Speaker 19: and the Local Government Act is broken. So what we're

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Speaker 19: doing is changing it to a much more flexible system.

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Speaker 19: We're giving councils the ability to recover for all of

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Speaker 19: the growth charges that come from new housing and make

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Speaker 19: sure that when a development turns up that the council

775
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Speaker 19: can say, okay, well you can build there, but the

776
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Speaker 19: charge is for your wastewater? Is this the charge for

777
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Speaker 19: your storm water?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 19: The charge for the community infrastructure, your parks and the beautification,

780
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Speaker 19: is this the charge for the local streets?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 19: Everyone knows where they stand. The council knows how much

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Speaker 19: they'll get, The developer knows how much it will cost.

784
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Speaker 19: They can make their decisions around where and what they

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Speaker 19: build based on that, and so there's a much more

786
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Speaker 19: predictable transparenc everybody.

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Speaker 3: But we know the developer is not going to pay

788
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Speaker 3: this and sales. They'll pass it on to the home buyers,

789
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Speaker 3: potentially first home buyers. Do you know how much it

790
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Speaker 3: might push house prices up by well?

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Speaker 19: And actually what we're trying to do is lower house

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Speaker 19: prices over time because the problem at the moment is

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Speaker 19: we've got a shortage of land right because we zone

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Speaker 19: land in a very restrictive way, and then we don't

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Speaker 19: sort out the infrastructure funding that I'm talking about so

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Speaker 19: that the land can actually be developed. So what's happened

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Speaker 19: over in Auckland in particular over the last.

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Speaker 3: I can see, yeah, land, I can see the long

799
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Speaker 3: term benefit that you're talking about, but in the short

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Speaker 3: term you will have I mean, if you're a developer

801
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Speaker 3: and you were going to build something that the council

802
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Speaker 3: was going to pay three hundred million dollars for and

803
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Speaker 3: now they're not, that's going to cost you, right, it

804
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Speaker 3: will go.

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Speaker 19: Backwards into the land price, so it be reflected in

806
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Speaker 19: prices that people are willing to pay for land. And

807
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Speaker 19: so our aim is to actually drive down the cost

808
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Speaker 19: of land. And the price of land. Land is so

809
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Speaker 19: expensive because of the shortage of it. But we don't

810
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Speaker 19: have a shortage of land. We have a shortage of

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Speaker 19: land that can actually be developed.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

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Speaker 19: So we're fixing that with the announcement of Chris Bishop.

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Speaker 3: Thanks your time, the Infrastructure Minister. Chris Bishop. Time is

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Speaker 3: fourteen minutes after five here on news Talk said be

816
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Speaker 3: some people I mentioned earlier about the fobs for your

817
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Speaker 3: car and how much it costs. Someone has paid sixteen

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars for a vdub fob to get back into

819
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Speaker 3: their car, just to replace the little you know what

820
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Speaker 3: used to be a key. Sixteen hundred dollars. And there's

821
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Speaker 3: another guy here from christ Church. He says he knows

822
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Speaker 3: how to get them for twenty to thirty bucks. So

823
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you about that. Next five seventeen news Talk

824
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Speaker 3: said b just had Chris Bishop on the program talking

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Speaker 3: about the fact they want to charge developers more and

826
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Speaker 3: rate Pay is less for building new roads and pipes

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Speaker 3: and stuff that you put under new subdivisions. And no

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Speaker 3: one is buying this line that the developers won't pass

829
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Speaker 3: on the cost to land owners. Ryan, I'm a developer

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Speaker 3: and I will definitely pass on the charges to the buyer,

831
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Speaker 3: says Chargo. Another here says developers and Ratepay has already

832
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Speaker 3: put a lot and there's no way that the developers

833
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Speaker 3: will be eating that cost. It will be passed on.

834
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Speaker 3: Santa Fe police this is in the United States say

835
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Speaker 3: the death of Oscar winning actor Gene Hackman and his

836
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Speaker 3: wife is suspicious enough to warrant investigation. The actor was

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Speaker 3: found dead alongside his wife, Betsy and the dog yesterday

838
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Speaker 3: the Sheriff's office saying you'd been dead for some time,

839
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Speaker 3: although they're not sure if foul play was involved. It's

840
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Speaker 3: a little unclear at this point. Sean Mandel is the

841
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: entertainment reporter with the New York Post. He's based in

842
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles. Sean, good evening, Good evening, Good to have

843
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Speaker 3: you on the program. What is the latest with this story?

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Speaker 20: What we do know at this point is that there

845
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Speaker 20: has been a press release sent out by the sheriff

846
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Speaker 20: in Santa Fe County, New Mexico, as well as a

847
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Speaker 20: released AFFI David that gave startling details about the police

848
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Speaker 20: and their discovery of the body of Gene Hackman and

849
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Speaker 20: his wife, Betsy Arakawa. Police arrived on Wednesday afternoon after

850
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Speaker 20: a maintenance for kers showed up at the property and

851
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Speaker 20: was unable to get a whole of either Gene Hackman

852
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Speaker 20: or his wife. He then contacted the local neighborhood security.

853
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Speaker 20: The couple lived in a very posh, high end, multimillion

854
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Speaker 20: dollar estate area in a gated community that had local security.

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Speaker 20: They then the local security then went and observed through

856
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Speaker 20: a window the bodies of Gene Hackman and his wife

857
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Speaker 20: called nine one one, and at that point police arrived

858
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Speaker 20: on the scene, and as you said, there is enough

859
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Speaker 20: evidence based on what they mentioned in their Affidavid, that

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Speaker 20: they believe that this is suspicious because of the nature

861
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Speaker 20: of the bodies both being found at the same time,

862
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Speaker 20: as well as some disturbing details about Hackman's wife and

863
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Speaker 20: the state of decomposition that she was in, which goes

864
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Speaker 20: to it leads to a question about how long they

865
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Speaker 20: were in fact there. Toxicology results are pending. They did

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Speaker 20: do toxicology tests on both Hackman and miss Arakawa, including

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Speaker 20: testing for carbon monoxide, which the family. Members of the

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Speaker 20: family have come out and said that they believe that

869
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Speaker 20: could have been a contributing factor or in fact the

870
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 20: cause of both of their debts and the death of

871
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Speaker 20: one of their dogs, but it's going to take several

872
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Speaker 20: weeks for those test results to come back.

873
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned the decomposition on her body. Was it different

874
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 3: to the decomposition on his body? Is that why police

875
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Speaker 3: are a little concerned.

876
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 20: Well, it's actually unclear in the way that police have

877
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 20: worded it in their documentation so far. They said that

878
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 20: Hackman's body was found and showed signs of death, that

879
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 20: were similar and consistent with his wife's body. Now that

880
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 20: could be that's a little vague. It could just mean

881
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 20: that they were passed out on the floor. That could

882
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 20: mean the details of the level of decomposition that were

883
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 20: found to be present on his wife's body, which included

884
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 20: mummification is the official word of her hands and feet

885
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 20: and a bloated and her face apparently was quite bloated.

886
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 20: But the law enforcement noted that a space heater seemed

887
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 20: to have been was on the floor near her body

888
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 20: that may have been knocked off of the counter, as

889
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 20: well as a pill container that was opened with prescription

890
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 20: pills scattered on a countertop. So there's a lot that

891
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 20: is left unclear here and certainly makes sense why police

892
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 20: would now need to conduct this investigation. But it really

893
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 20: will come down. Even the sheriff has said today that

894
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 20: they believe it will come down to these toxicologies.

895
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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting stuff, Sean, Thanks for that. Sean Mandel, who's

896
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Speaker 3: the la entertainment reporter with the New York Times. Brian

897
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 3: Forgive the New York Post twenty two minutes after five

898
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 3: on News Talk SVB. Just really weird that they turn

899
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 3: up the police turn up the first thing they say

900
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: to media is it's not there's no foul play here,

901
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: and then they turn around later and say, actually, they're

902
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: potentially foul play or something a bit suspicious going on.

903
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: So very very a weird case. Indeed, I'm just blown

904
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: away by the number of texts we have had in

905
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: the last half an hour from people how much they

906
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: are spending on key fobs for their cars. And they're

907
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: not fancy cars necessarily, But there is one here from

908
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: a guy who says from Steve. He says, Hi, Ryan,

909
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: for our VDUB golf. We just went down to the

910
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 3: local Chinese mall had a fob made for one hundred

911
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: and twenty dollars and it works beautifully, So you had

912
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: a new bespoke one made. Apparently the reason they're so expensive.

913
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 3: And I don't know whether this is just guff from

914
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: the car companies. This is from the Motor Industry Association.

915
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: They include RFID, bluetooth and near field communication, which you

916
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: can understand because they've got to work. That makes them

917
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: very expense, and some of them have a then you

918
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: know the vehicle identification number written to individual vehicles by

919
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 3: the manufacturer, so that you can only open your car

920
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: and no one else can open your car when you're

921
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: not there. Twenty three minutes after five, News Talk said,

922
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Speaker 3: b I'll give you an update on Caleb Clark next.

923
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: Moving the big stories of the day forward.

924
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on Hither duper c Allen drive with

925
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: one New Zealand.

926
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: Let's get connected. News Talks ed B.

927
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: Twenty six after five. Caleb Clark is a big deal

928
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 3: in rugby. He started in nine of the AB's test

929
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: last season. His dad was an All Black. He's one

930
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: of the most well known faces in the country right,

931
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: which is what makes this story about him running away

932
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: from the cops just so crazy. The Herald got the

933
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: court documents today, so we've found out all of the details.

934
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 3: He was driving on the Western Motorway in Auckland. Police

935
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: cocked him speeding. They signaled for him to stop, They

936
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: used the lights, they put the sirens on and instead

937
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 3: of stopping, he speeds up and takes off. At one

938
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: point the cops reckon. He was doing one hundred and

939
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: ten kilometers an hour in a fifty k zone and

940
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: he was being tracked by police Eagle helicopter. One of

941
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 3: the most famous people in New Zealand being tracked by

942
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: the police chopper. He then stops and surrenders. I'm assuming

943
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: he's come to his senses. He says later that he

944
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: just panicked when the cops started chasing him. They had

945
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: the lights going et ce, he just panicked and he

946
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: took off. He's put his hand up in court and

947
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 3: he has said that he is guilty. He's pled guilty

948
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: on Monday. So the next step is his sentencing. The

949
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: question is does he get a discharge without conviction. Couple

950
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: of things to note. He's young, he's had no run

951
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: ins with the law before, he has a good job.

952
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: He's remorseful. He eventually came to his senses. He is

953
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: very lucky no one got hurt. Otherwise this would be

954
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: a completely different situation. And he's cooperated with police. And

955
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 3: more importantly, just because you're an all black, it doesn't

956
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: mean you're perfect. Nobody is perfect, and nor should they

957
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: have to be. They're rugby players, for goodness sakes. They're

958
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 3: not priests, they're not politicians, they're not a higher moral authority.

959
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: They're just young guys who throw a ball around a

960
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: paddock and run fast. So I don't think he should

961
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: be held to a standard any higher or lower than

962
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: anyone else, And from what we know about who Caleb

963
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: is outside of these few shameful minutes running from the cops,

964
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: I don't think a life or career ending consequence is

965
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: the answer for Caleb Clark breast Rich twenty eight minutes

966
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 3: after five. We're going to Las Vegas after the news

967
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 3: at five point thirty because obviously the league's going on there,

968
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: and we're also going to go to our sports huddle

969
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 3: for the Friday evening. Nicky Styrus is with us, you know,

970
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: Nikki Styris. Matt Brown is joining us on the sports

971
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 3: tuittle for Friday night, So looking forward to that. They'll

972
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 3: obviously have something to say about CAYLEB. Clark, no doubt.

973
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 3: News Talks hid.

974
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: By recamping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

975
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duper see Ellen Drive with

976
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: one New Zealand, let's get connected. News Talks dB.

977
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: You Yeather, Cold Dies.

978
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: The weather, Welcome to your Friday evening is twenty four

979
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 3: minutes away from sixth grade to heavy company. So Caleb

980
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: Clark pleaded guilty this week to charge just relating to

981
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: him fleeing police on his motorbike. We've just been discussing

982
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: that here on the show, and BOYD people have opinions. Unsurprising.

983
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: It's an important issue, Rob says Ryan regarding Caleb. Discharge

984
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: without conviction simply undermines the entire judicial system. It's the

985
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: deterrent dimension that counts. This one is from Lance, who

986
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: says he's a police officer. Ryan, fleeing drivers are one

987
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: of the most dangerous things that we deal with. If

988
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: I had done this as an officer, I wouldn't get

989
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: a discharge without conviction. Even if I did get one,

990
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 3: I would be kicked out of the police and lose

991
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 3: my career. Why should he be any different? Hmm. We'll

992
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 3: ask our panel our sports huddle on the show tonight.

993
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: Necki Starrs and Matt Brown are here after this. It's

994
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: twenty three.

995
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: Two six, Ryan Bridge.

996
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: First, though, the NRL is back this weekend, with the

997
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: opening round kicking off in the glistening lights of Las Vegas.

998
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: The Warriors are one of four teams playing in Sin

999
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: City this weekend. It's the NRL is looking to expand

1000
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: the game into America. Brad Walter is a very fucking man.

1001
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 3: He's there. He's a rugby league journalist for NRL Digital Bread.

1002
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: First of all, where are you? What's it like where

1003
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: you are?

1004
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 15: Yeah, so I'm at the fan fest in Fremont's Street

1005
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 15: in Vegas. It's like a big mall and it's absolutely heaving.

1006
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 15: There's thousands and thousands of people all in NRL or

1007
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 15: Super League jerseys for as far as the eye can see,

1008
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 15: in every direction. And it's yes, they're just jam packed

1009
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 15: in this in this mall. It's it's incredible. There's just

1010
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 15: the atmosphere here in Las Vegas this week and the

1011
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 15: build up to the to the game has been that's

1012
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 15: a that's a massive step up on last year. I

1013
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 15: think just that's the English fans bring so much, you know,

1014
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 15: the singing and the chants and things like that. You

1015
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 15: just see English stands around. But the one thing I've

1016
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 15: noticed everywhere is the number of Warriors jerseys. It's incredible.

1017
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 15: I would say the Warriors will be the most supported

1018
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 15: team at Allegian Stadium on the weekend.

1019
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: Are they Kiwis or are they Americans or Brits or.

1020
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 15: What well they could be I don't know, to be honest,

1021
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 15: I mean, yeah, look, there's a there's a lot of

1022
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 15: kiwis here, whether they whether they live in the States

1023
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 15: or whether they they've flown over for the game. I'm

1024
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 15: not sure, but I think thirty eight percent of tickets

1025
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 15: have been sold in the United States, so I don't

1026
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 15: know everyone. He's got a head url Jersey on, so

1027
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 15: those people living in the States obviously followed the NRL

1028
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 15: as well. But I think there's I do feel like

1029
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 15: that there's a lot of maybe a lot of people

1030
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 15: who saw it last year and maybe they've been told

1031
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 15: about it by friends or they are aware of rugby League,

1032
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 15: like I'm talking about Americans, and you know, maybe they

1033
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 15: and they've decided to come as well, because there's definitely,

1034
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 15: you know, there's definitely a lot of local interests, and

1035
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 15: you sort of feel like now too that now that

1036
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 15: the game was here last year, or that the event

1037
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 15: was here last year, and that the NRL's come back

1038
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 15: this time, people are much more aware of what's happening

1039
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 15: the event itself, and also of what of the difference

1040
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 15: between rugby league and rugby union, which certainly wasn't the

1041
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 15: case last year.

1042
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 3: Is Dana White there yet? What's he What's he actually

1043
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: going to do? Do you know?

1044
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 15: I don't know he's been invited. I don't look, I

1045
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 15: don't know if he's here, and I don't know what

1046
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 15: he's going to do if he is here. But I

1047
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 15: know that he has been invited to blow the Raiders horn,

1048
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 15: the Viking horn before the game against the Warriors. I

1049
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 15: don't know whether that's that's come off or not. I'm

1050
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 15: not I'm not really sure who's going to blow the

1051
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 15: horn for the Raiders, or whether whether Danah White or

1052
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 15: Donald Trump or any of those people you know, who

1053
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 15: will be here. But I think one thing I will

1054
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 15: say that is that, yeah, there's definitely more interest and

1055
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 15: more you know, I think maybe more high profile American

1056
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 15: athletes in particular that are keen to come. You know,

1057
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 15: there's a lot of Pacific people with Pacific Island heritage

1058
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 15: in the States and especially on the West Coast, and

1059
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 15: a lot of athletes in the NFL in particular who

1060
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 15: have like a connection with the game, you know, whether

1061
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 15: it be rugby league or rugby union.

1062
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: Hey bread, just quickly before you go. The Raiders Warriors

1063
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: game is going to be broadcast on Fox. They have

1064
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: a distribution from one hundred and twenty five million homes.

1065
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: Do you know how many people they are expecting to

1066
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 3: watch it.

1067
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 15: No, I don't know, but hopefully, you know, hopefully that's hopefully.

1068
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: A lot of people, but hopefully all of them.

1069
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 15: Hopefully all of them. One thing I think, like everybody agrees,

1070
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 15: is that any American who sees rugby league likes it,

1071
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 15: They're just going to be exposed or so hopefully they

1072
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 15: tune in because if they do, they can relate to it.

1073
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 15: You know, the six tackles is like downs in NFL

1074
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 15: American football, and I think they really like the contact

1075
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 15: and the game. For me of the weekend, well, you know,

1076
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 15: the Warriors Raiders is going to be a tracking game.

1077
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 15: But for me, I think Americans are going to be

1078
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 15: absolutely blown away when they see the physicality and skill

1079
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 15: and athleticism of the Australian and England women's players. I

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Speaker 15: think that's going to be a shocked because last year

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Speaker 15: they were all raving about no pats, no helmets when

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Speaker 15: the men played, well, the women played exactly. They played

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Speaker 15: just as hard as.

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Speaker 8: The men do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quite true. Brad, Hey, good luck this weekend. Hang

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Speaker 3: in there, Drink lots of water. Brad Walter, rugby league

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Speaker 3: journalist Interel Digital in Las Vegas. Time is eighteen away

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Speaker 3: from five. It's Friday evening and it's time for the

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Speaker 3: Sports Huddle.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southebeast, International realty,

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Speaker 1: local and global exposure like no other.

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Speaker 3: Partner.

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Speaker 9: The last five seconds of the preliminary final.

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Speaker 2: History has been my.

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Speaker 6: Years here and Warriors. I'll endo the Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: Johnson's still going dog.

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Speaker 12: The Star Warriors with the Grand Final.

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Speaker 21: Johnson, Yeah, the Wariors. So one go away from the

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Speaker 21: NRL Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to your sports huddle for Friday night. Matt Brown

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Speaker 3: is with us A Ciana Football Confederation and giggling in

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Speaker 3: the background as Nicky Star as sports journalists and Warriors groupie.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, guys, Nicky, are you holding out? You're always

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Speaker 3: holding out, hope, aren't you?

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Speaker 1: This is our year.

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Speaker 22: I'm starting to sound like Mike Cosking.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Look, oh hey, we as die hard Warriors fans are

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Speaker 22: always holding out. But you know, like any year, you

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Speaker 22: win some, you lose some, and you lose some good players.

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Speaker 22: You won some good players. So Craky, I don't have

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Speaker 22: a crystal ball at the stage.

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Speaker 9: How what do you want to Nicki NICKI took my

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Speaker 9: line the Mike Costkin mine. I think I was going

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 9: to say the same thing. But look, I think I

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Speaker 9: think they're probably going to be better than last year.

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Speaker 9: Let's face it, last year was not a good year,

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Speaker 9: and I think that with Adam vanua Blake going that

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 9: that's a bit of a bayer upfront, to be honest,

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Speaker 9: But look who they've replaced him with in Fisher Harris.

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Speaker 9: He's an outstanding, outstanding prop and I think he's still

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Speaker 9: got his best years ahead of and Peraps. I met

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Speaker 9: the Warriors, so he'll be he'll be big for them.

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Speaker 9: I think the Fords will go well. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 9: going to be optimistic. Luke Metcalf of course has the

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Speaker 9: Shawan Johnson shoes to fill.

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Speaker 6: That'll be tough, but look, let's be.

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Speaker 9: Optimistic and not quite I'm not going to say that

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Speaker 9: this is the year, but I think they're going to

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Speaker 9: get better than last year.

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Speaker 3: How much do you wish you were actually there in Vegas, Nikki.

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Speaker 22: Well, I'll tell you we story then. So about I'm

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Speaker 22: going to say about seven or eight years ago, I

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Speaker 22: went Scott and I went on the Vegas flight for

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Speaker 22: with some of those Warriors players. It was grab a

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Speaker 22: Seat's fifth birthday, so we did that fan flight and

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Speaker 22: oh my gosh, it was just five days of so

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Speaker 22: much fun to Vegas. And I actually messaged one of

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Speaker 22: the guys that runs it and said, where was our invite?

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Speaker 2: We wanted to go.

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Speaker 22: It just looked like so much fun. So yes, I'm

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Speaker 22: just a little bit jealous that I'm not there, but hey,

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Speaker 22: what a fantastic spectacle. So, you know, pats off to

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Speaker 22: them for doing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother's over there at the moment, and I

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Speaker 3: text them two days ago, haven't heard back. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back in just a second. We've got the Sports Huddle

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Speaker 3: for your Friday night. Matt Brown and Nicki Styrus here

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Speaker 3: on News talksb.

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Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

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Speaker 1: Elevate the Marketing of.

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Speaker 3: Your Home twelve to six On the Sports Huddle, Matt

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Speaker 3: Brown and Nicki Styrus, Welcome back, guys. Matt Caleb Clark,

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Speaker 3: He's played guilty. He's a young guy. He made us

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00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: what sounds like a very stupid mistake and says that

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Speaker 3: he freaked out when he was being chased by the police.

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Speaker 3: The holicopter was up there, the lights are on, the

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Speaker 3: sirens and going all of that sort of stuff. But

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Speaker 3: he takes off, and he takes off really quickly. What

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Speaker 3: do you think should happen to him, Matt.

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Speaker 9: Well, I've got a pretty clear view and it I

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Speaker 9: think he should be treated just like you or I

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Speaker 9: would be will you as a celebrity, me as a

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Speaker 9: media and comms manager. My job involves me. I mean

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Speaker 9: one of the excuses he's got to travel internationally. In

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Speaker 9: some countries you know, don't let you in if you've

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Speaker 9: got a criminal conviction. But I would think that if

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Speaker 9: I did that, and I did the book thrown at me,

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Speaker 9: I would impact my jobs.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not going to do it.

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Speaker 9: So I think personal responsibility plays a big part, and

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Speaker 9: I don't believe an athlete should be treated different to

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Speaker 9: anyone else who's working, you know, working for a living,

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Speaker 9: and whether you're working or playing support for a living,

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Speaker 9: I think you should be treated the same. So yeah,

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Speaker 9: I do think he should be committed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, interesting because I mean regardless of that, nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with who he is or what his job is,

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Speaker 3: but just just somebody that age who's had that record

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Speaker 3: who's you know, otherwise been good society, who has a job, etc. Nikki,

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Speaker 3: What's what's your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 22: I'd like to see the stats on other young people

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Speaker 22: whether they receive the same treatment. You know, how many

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Speaker 22: kids are discharged without conviction, So you're sort of comparing

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Speaker 22: apples with apples, I think. And of course the other

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Speaker 22: thing too is you know, is it a career ending conviction?

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Speaker 22: Doesn't mean that it's going to really impact his career

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Speaker 22: so much that you know they would take that into consideration.

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Speaker 22: The other thing I would say is, speaking of law,

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Speaker 22: if you look at precedent, which is often what judges do.

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Speaker 22: You know, I can give you an entire first fifteen

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Speaker 22: of players that have been discharged without conviction in prior years,

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Speaker 22: ranging from drink driving to you know, quite serious assault

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Speaker 22: George Moala to Vita Lee, Julian Savi and Larzi Filippo

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Speaker 22: pretty whipper in the list actually goes on. So I

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Speaker 22: would be very surprised if this particular judge, on the

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Speaker 22: seemings of judge not a jury go you know, we

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Speaker 22: are I'm going to go against you know, president here

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Speaker 22: and actually convict you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what about having what about though?

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Speaker 9: The impact of you know, in the reality is if

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Speaker 9: you can get it, if people keep getting away with it,

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Speaker 9: it doesn't encourage people to change their ways. And if

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Speaker 9: or anybody you know, so and so some of these players,

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Speaker 9: you know, if things do happen and they do get convicted,

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Speaker 9: them might just make some people think twice.

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Speaker 22: I couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. But what if

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Speaker 22: it actually happens, I'll be quite surprised.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, interesting, All right, let's move on talk about

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Speaker 3: something different. Let's let's go with gen worries. What about

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Speaker 3: Sky TV. I saw in Shane Curry's colin this week

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Speaker 3: he was talking to the boss of Sky TV, the chair,

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Speaker 3: I should say, saying essentially, we're not going to buy

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Speaker 3: those Rugby rights at any cost. And this interview took

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Speaker 3: place before Design. The rumors of Design coming in with

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Speaker 3: their own bid propped up and cropped up in the media.

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Speaker 3: But I guess, I mean, they don't just have an

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Speaker 3: empty check, do they? Sky? They will have, But if

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Speaker 3: they don't get the rights, then I guess what happens

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Speaker 3: to them?

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Speaker 9: Matt Well, I think Sky would be in trouble because

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Speaker 9: I think I think still and I'm not updated on

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Speaker 9: the latest stats. But I do think the rugby rights

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Speaker 9: are the sort of the holy grail.

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Speaker 16: There always have been, the.

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Speaker 9: All Blacks have always been, you know, on Sky since

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Speaker 9: professional rugby, and they've got what four hundred and sixty

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Speaker 9: odd thousand subscribers. How many would they lose if they

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Speaker 9: lost the rugby rights. I think there would be a

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Speaker 9: considerable number, and it would have a massive impact on

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Speaker 9: Sky and what they can do, So it would be massive,

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Speaker 9: and I think that may be the most one of

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Speaker 9: the most likely options because of the rugby union's desperate

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Speaker 9: desire for more cash and more money to fund everything

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Speaker 9: they are doing. Is maybe, you know, with Dazzen coming in,

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Speaker 9: maybe does own. I think there's been a suggestion maybe

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Speaker 9: they could potentially buy Sky. I don't know, they're that big.

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Speaker 9: It's not beyond the realms of possibility, so that could be.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, competition, Look, the reality is for the rugby union,

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Speaker 9: competition is good. Let's face it, they're driving the price

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Speaker 9: up for them. They need the cash and it's it's

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Speaker 9: going to be interest fascinating to see how this one

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Speaker 9: plays out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you Sky?

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I think Sky definitely needs the rugby I guess

1246
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 22: for the question is does the rugby union need Sky.

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Speaker 22: I mean, let's not forget too though, that the NZR

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Speaker 22: have a five percent share in Sky. There's a conflict immediately,

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Speaker 22: so you know, do they need to do they need

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Speaker 22: to protect that share. I mean, I think it sort

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Speaker 22: of equates too. And I did a little bit of

1252
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Speaker 22: homework on this. I think they get about eighteen million

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Speaker 22: dollars from that percentage share. So if Sky, you know,

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Speaker 22: the bottom falls out of Sky, they lose that as well. However,

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Speaker 22: also New Zealand rugby has a lot of its own issues,

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Speaker 22: don't they. You know, they've got, you know, issues with

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Speaker 22: the grassroots. They've got funding for their team women's teams,

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Speaker 22: and so they've got a lot of expenditure and so

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Speaker 22: then I guess they have to look at their base

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Speaker 22: costs and go, well, if we don't, if we hold

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Speaker 22: onto Sky, we have to somehow save this money somewhere else.

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Speaker 22: So I think it's a very interesting prospect and i'd

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Speaker 22: like to I'm looking forward to sing it playout.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, same, thank you guys, we have to leave it.

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Speaker 3: They've also got an any sized hole in their budget too,

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Speaker 3: that's right. That Brown Oceana Football Federation Media manager. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for being with us. Matt great to

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Speaker 3: have you on, and Nicki Styrus, sports journalist for your

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Speaker 3: Friday night sports huddle. It is seven minutes away from six.

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Speaker 3: After six, we're going to talk to TV and ZED,

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Speaker 3: speaking of television, TV and z's boss about the results

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Speaker 3: that we're out today. Quite a good one from them.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: My Art Radio powered by News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. It is four minutes away from six.

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Speaker 3: Coming up after six o'clock, we're going to talk TV

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Speaker 3: and Z. We're going to sort out what their numbers

1278
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Speaker 3: were from today and we're going to find out a

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Speaker 3: little bit more about where their revenue is coming from.

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Speaker 3: And have you ever wondered how many people are watching

1281
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Speaker 3: the news when you sit down at whatever time you

1282
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Speaker 3: watch the TV on an evening, How many people are

1283
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Speaker 3: watching on terrestrial television, how many are watching on digital?

1284
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Speaker 3: We'll ask about that as well. Peter Lewis is here

1285
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Speaker 3: after six thirty. Here's our Asia Business correspondent. You know,

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Speaker 3: we've been talking a lot this week about Chinese warships

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Speaker 3: and a lot of talk has been chat has been

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Speaker 3: had about the Taiwan Straight. Well, Taiwan has actually caught

1289
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Speaker 3: a Chinese own ship that wasn't a navy ship, but

1290
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Speaker 3: caught a Chinese own ship cutting a sub sea cable

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Speaker 3: in the Taiwan Strait, which is basically the same place

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Speaker 3: that we drive our boat sailed our boats through with

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Speaker 3: the Aussies and September last year. So we'll talk to

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Speaker 3: Peter lets about that after six point thirty. Lots more

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Speaker 3: to come here on News Talk Cbod's.

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Speaker 1: Up, what's down one with a major cause and how

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Speaker 1: will it affect the economy? The big business questions on

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and mass Insurance and investments,

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Speaker 1: Grow your Wealth, Protect your Future.

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Speaker 3: News talks at be Good even coming up Barry Soaper

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Speaker 3: erhaps the Political Week. China has been caught ripping up

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Speaker 3: an undersea cable in the Taiwan Straight And we are

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Speaker 3: live to London for the latest from our UK correspondent

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray. TVNZ has returned to profit. Sodown Broadcasters posted

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Speaker 3: a net profit after tacks fifty three point one million

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Speaker 3: bucks for This is for the six months to December.

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Speaker 3: That includes a forty one million dollar non cash adjustment

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Speaker 3: to remove cost the operational earnings eleven point eight million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's not all good news though for TVNZ it isn't

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Speaker 3: sure whether the full year result will be a profit

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Speaker 3: or a loss. Jody O'Donnell is the tvn Z CEO.

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Speaker 3: Jody good evening, Ryan, Hi, how are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? You must be pleased with this result.

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Speaker 23: Look, I am really placed. It's encouraging, not just from

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Speaker 23: what we've seen in the last six months, but what

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Speaker 23: the next six months looks like, which is most encouraging.

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Speaker 23: A lot of people forget that TVZ isn't funded by

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Speaker 23: the taxpayer, so we are a commercial business. Ninety seven

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Speaker 23: percent of our revenue comes from advertising, so to be

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Speaker 23: amongst a lot of businesses that have been challenged over

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Speaker 23: the last couple of months, we've had to live within

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Speaker 23: our means. So I'm really encouraged with the result today.

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Speaker 3: How much of this is to do with the fall

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Speaker 3: of news Hub and TV three's advertising revenue.

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Speaker 23: I would say a very small amount, and that is

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Speaker 23: because obviously the overall market has been down. So yes,

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Speaker 23: we have enjoyed some increased viewership, but actually the overall

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Speaker 23: market has been down, So I would say small returns

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Speaker 23: which have come from those additional audiences.

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Speaker 3: Have those additional audiences resulted in extra revenue or are

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Speaker 3: you saying that that you've got more viewers but you

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Speaker 3: haven't got more money.

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Speaker 23: What I'd say is that with platform TVs Plus, we've

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Speaker 23: introduced a newstab and within that we're now producing more

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Speaker 23: news on hundred thousand kei. We are now watching news

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Speaker 23: every single week on TVs Plus with news clips, and

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Speaker 23: so I would say that would be additional audiences and

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Speaker 23: therefore additional revenue.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned in your release that half of your revenue

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Speaker 3: now your revenue now comes from digital. Is that is

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Speaker 3: that correct?

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Speaker 23: Twenty five percent our revenue is coming from digital. Our

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Speaker 23: ambition is for it to be half.

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Speaker 3: So twenty five percent at the moment. How quickly is

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Speaker 3: your your terrestrial dropping off?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, So we've got a five year strategy and at

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Speaker 23: the end of the five years we expect that at

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Speaker 23: least fifty percent of our revenue will be from digital

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Speaker 23: and the other fifty percent will be from broadcasts. So

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Speaker 23: there will be a point where they cross, and it

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Speaker 23: could be twenty eight to twenty nine anywhere between there,

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Speaker 23: and how much is.

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Speaker 3: An AD on tallyworth versus an AD on digital, the

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Speaker 3: cost must be completely different.

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Speaker 23: It's a really different cost base and I think that's

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Speaker 23: what's contributed to our digital revenue growth. We can now

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Speaker 23: engage with small New Zealanders who previously had thoughts they

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Speaker 23: couldn't afford to advertise on TV, But on TVNZ plus

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Speaker 23: you can spend as little as one thousand dollars advertising

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Speaker 23: with us and still reach a large audience. So it's

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Speaker 23: really open to the opportunities for us to talk to

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Speaker 23: lots of small businesses as well as the bigger, more

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Speaker 23: corporate businesses which have tended to invest more on television.

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Speaker 3: How much longer will you have free to air television air?

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Speaker 23: I've said that by twenty thirty, and that's our digital strategy.

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Speaker 23: We'll have the ability to turn off DTT. But that's

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Speaker 23: a conversation that we would need to have obviously in

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Speaker 23: line with our shareholder.

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Speaker 3: The government.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that's right to make sure that all New Zealanders

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Speaker 23: can still access television. That's a really important part of

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Speaker 23: our mandate.

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Speaker 3: How many of your viewers are currently watching your content

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Speaker 3: on TV versus your TVNZ plus?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, good question every night about two million New Zealanders

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Speaker 23: are watching on our broadcast channels, our TV channels, and

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Speaker 23: every week one point sixty five New Zealanders are streaming

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Speaker 23: our content on TVNZ plus.

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Speaker 3: How do you shift them over?

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Speaker 23: Well, they're actually doing a bit of both at the moment.

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Speaker 23: So yes, there will always be an audience that still

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Speaker 23: watches terrestrial TV so the way they have always watched it,

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Speaker 23: and that audience is getting older. But actually you've still

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Speaker 23: got a really broad audience across TV. So bringing in

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Speaker 23: new shows such as Day of the Jackal, dropping it

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Speaker 23: first on our streaming platform TVs Plus means that viewers

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Speaker 23: can switch between the two options, either watching it as

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Speaker 23: live on broadcast TV or streaming it on TV's plus

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Speaker 23: when they want to. And that's what we've been experimenting

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Speaker 23: with is dropping different pieces of content at different times,

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Speaker 23: either on our broadcast channels or on TVNZ Plus to

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Speaker 23: allow viewers to use both options. Because at some stage

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Speaker 23: we will need to say, guess what, there's a better

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Speaker 23: way to watch and it's called tvnz plus.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Dave the Jackal. That's a British TV series,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. When will you be investing more in new

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Speaker 3: Zealand content.

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Speaker 23: We've still got over one hundred local shows that are

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Speaker 23: in production or in development over the next twelve.

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Speaker 3: Months and you haven't cut any of that back.

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Speaker 23: So we're still investing hugely into our local content. So

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Speaker 23: we've said about so we haven't this year. We did

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Speaker 23: last year on FY twenty four, but this year I

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Speaker 23: have a fifty percent of our content investment will still

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Speaker 23: be across local that includes news, sport and local productions.

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Speaker 3: News is bloody expensive, isn't it?

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Speaker 23: No comment, And it's the thing about news is it's

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Speaker 23: you need it.

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Speaker 3: It's important, but it's annoyingly expensive to produce. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's look, I've just come from a place where that

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Speaker 3: was proved true.

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Speaker 23: Look, news and sport are the two pieces of content

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Speaker 23: that bring people into our platform every single day. So

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Speaker 23: whilst it's expensive, it's really important. It's important for the

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Speaker 23: daily usage of our channels and of our streaming platform,

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Speaker 23: and so we certainly looking for more efficiencies that we

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Speaker 23: can get out of our news product And like I

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Speaker 23: said earlier, heavy news the news tab on TVNZ Plus

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Speaker 23: allows us to reuse that news so that it doesn't

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Speaker 23: just get used once at six o'clock. And then it's

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Speaker 23: on the cutting room floor. It's reused and therefore able

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Speaker 23: to be monetized. So I think we just need to

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Speaker 23: think a bit differently around how actually we do distribute news.

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Speaker 23: It's not just a one time once only anymore.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Jody, thank you very much for being with me.

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Speaker 3: Jodyo O'donald TVNZ's chief executive on the half year result.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen minutes after six. Now they're full year result. They're

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Speaker 3: expecting operational earnings of between five and negative five million

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Speaker 3: dollars for the full year. You're on News Talk CB.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, Barry Soper wraps the political week that was.

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Speaker 3: Lots to discuss the four year terms, the Chinese boats,

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Speaker 3: you name it, Barry's doing it.

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Speaker 1: Next, it's the Heather Duper Cell and Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on my Heart Radio, empowered by Newstalk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 3: News Talk zb Very Soper is our senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 3: He's with us every Friday to wrap the week that was. Barry,

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Speaker 3: Hello again, Good a Ryan, Good to have you back.

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Speaker 3: So get the retailers. Are they going to start tackling

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Speaker 3: these shoplifters?

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, if you listen to the reaction, Ryan

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Speaker 17: you'd say that's what is the expectation is that anytime

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Speaker 17: a crop comes in, burly or not, he'll be tackled

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Speaker 17: by a poor store owner and the store owner will

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Speaker 17: be worse off. But it's not going to be that way.

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Speaker 17: I mean, this has got to go through a select

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Speaker 17: committee process for a start before the law comes into being,

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Speaker 17: so there'll be a lot of submissions made on it.

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Speaker 17: But the thing is it gives them that tool if

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Speaker 17: they want to use it.

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Speaker 4: It's some.

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Speaker 17: Toe rag at fourteen wanders in to grab a couple

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Speaker 17: of packets and cigarette, then the store owner can detain

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Speaker 17: them and call the cops, and the cops can come

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Speaker 17: and do what they will with them. And it's like,

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Speaker 17: you know, Goldriz Garriman, as I talked to you earlier

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Speaker 17: this week, she was leaving a shop with a tote bag.

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Speaker 17: Somebody wanted to look in it, she had stolen property

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Speaker 17: in it. She wouldn't turn it over and left the shop,

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Speaker 17: only to have it delivered later by somebody else. But

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Speaker 17: you know, you would tackle somebody like that. But if

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Speaker 17: he's a barly one hundred and twenty cagey big fellow

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Speaker 17: walking out of a supermarket with a trolley full of

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Speaker 17: stolen goods. You're hardly likely as a store owner or

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Speaker 17: an employee of the company to tackle the person.

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Speaker 3: Probably not, and probably will apply more to the dairies

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Speaker 3: than to any other big markets. Anyway, Now, Andrew Bailey

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Speaker 3: falling on his sword this week, it was all a

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Speaker 3: bit weird and hush where she was last week technically,

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Speaker 3: but then falling.

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Speaker 6: On carried on and on and on, and now we

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Speaker 6: only found out about it this week.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, you know, the nobody actually has really said

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Speaker 17: what occurred.

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Speaker 6: And you will have.

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Speaker 17: Heard Mike hosking and that laborious three minutes of him

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Speaker 17: trying to get the Prime Minister to admit that he

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Speaker 17: would have sacked him.

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Speaker 6: If he hadn't fallen on his sword.

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Speaker 17: Well, the fact is, Mike I felt was going totally

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Speaker 17: over the top because everything he's complained about the media,

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Speaker 17: and that's basically us being obsessed with a sacking culture,

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Speaker 17: us concentrating on the Minushai, us doing all sorts of things.

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Speaker 17: He did everything himself as an interviewer. When he interviewed

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Speaker 17: the Prime Minister, the Prime Minister was reluctant to say

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Speaker 17: he would sack him. He simply mentioned the word demote,

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Speaker 17: so Mike didn't quite get the sack that he wanted,

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Speaker 17: that he had accused the media of being bloody minded

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Speaker 17: about in the past. Nevertheless, that having been said, I

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Speaker 17: think the explanation could be and I've done a lot

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Speaker 17: of work around the beehive talking to people that are fairly.

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Speaker 6: Close to the situation. It wasn't a sackable offense. Basically,

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Speaker 6: it was a newbie in his.

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Speaker 17: Office, a young person that wasn't used to be cut

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Speaker 17: and trust of politics. Obviously, Andrew Bailey is a tactile man.

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Speaker 17: If you know yes, he's always touching people.

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Speaker 3: Even if you don't know him.

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Speaker 17: He's a tactics and he touched this guy on the

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Speaker 17: The guy lodged a formal complaint and Baby looked at

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Speaker 17: it and thought, this has now got to go through

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Speaker 17: a process. I can't be bothered anymore than he says,

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Speaker 17: I understand it. So he said, okay, I'll resimnble portfolios.

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Speaker 3: Which is what would have made it so difficult for

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister to answer the question right, because because

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Speaker 3: you don't, you don't want to say I wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: sacked him, because then everyone on the other side will

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Speaker 3: go oh, for goodness sake, you're a week, you're a

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Speaker 3: weekly a week and he's punched him or something, you know.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, all right, let's move on legislation to be introduced.

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Speaker 3: This is for a four year term of parliament. But

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Speaker 3: mean it's a long complicated process, Barry, it's going to

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01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 3: take a lot longer than four years to get there.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, it's a typical David Seymour.

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Speaker 17: And this is not to insult David Seymour, but if

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Speaker 17: you look at the end of life Choice Bill, he

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Speaker 17: introduced that and it went on and on for years.

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Speaker 17: Treaty Saidlemen's bill. The idea is out there, people cogitate

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Speaker 17: on the idea, they debate it similarly, four year term

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Speaker 17: and I think, you know, David Tema was pretty good

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Speaker 17: at doing this, putting out an idea, getting the public

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Speaker 17: like we are at the moment, to discuss it and

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Speaker 17: have a thought about it, and then maybe further down

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Speaker 17: the track there will be a binding referendum on it.

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Speaker 17: I think there would be an appetite now as there

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Speaker 17: wasn't too previous referenda to vote it down. I think

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Speaker 17: people would vote for.

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Speaker 3: The interesting I've done my column on for the heal

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 3: on Sunday saying exactly the opposite barrier. So I've never

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Speaker 3: read of that. Hey, the Chinese warships and now the

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01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: Chinese ambassador to Australia has come out and has said, well,

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Speaker 3: we've got nothing to apologize for this, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to keep doing this.

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Speaker 6: They'll do it more often. He's suggesting that.

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Speaker 17: So, yeah, the Chinese are not being apologetic at all,

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Speaker 17: and it comes as no surprise. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 17: they were within their rights internationally. I don't know whether

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Speaker 17: they are in the rights to go in the Australian

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Speaker 17: economic zone, but nevertheless they did and they've been there.

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Speaker 3: But as long as they went fishing, I think that's

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Speaker 3: the thing.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's actually true.

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Speaker 17: It is, yeah, I mean the live firing exercise, you

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Speaker 17: would think they would have had the good, well not

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01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 17: the good, the good diplomatic duty to let both Australia

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01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 17: New Zealand nine. We had to divert flights and that's

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Speaker 17: quite serious, so you know, I think they had to know.

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Speaker 3: Finally, you have to hand it to the Brits, don't

1547
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 3: you going to the White House with all of the charm.

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01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it was brown nosing. It's at its worst,

1549
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 3: but with the charm and the letter from the King,

1550
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: and Trump was just a peg and shit, wasn't he?

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 2: Well?

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01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 17: Like I said, you know, Trump loves the sort of

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01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 17: adoration and kissed arm, the left of center prime minister

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01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 17: from Britain getting on with the right of center President

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01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 17: of the United States, and the way he did, he

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01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,480
Speaker 17: knew to charm Trump. Charm was falling over himself, oozing

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01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 17: with charm. I mean to watch them together, I found

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Speaker 17: it highly amusing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so did I. And he kept saying, this letter

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01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 3: is unprecedented, exactly strong rooming here it is. He'll be

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Speaker 3: back very Sopher, great to see you.

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Speaker 6: Nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Ryan, good on you. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent from

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Speaker 3: News Talks B. It is twenty two minutes after six.

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Speaker 3: It is a Friday evening. Our numbers nine two nine

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Speaker 3: to if you want to flick text. Coming up after

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Speaker 3: the news at six thirty, we are going to our

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Speaker 3: Asia Business correspondent. Lots to discuss, including this undersea cable

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Speaker 3: that's been given the snip snip by the dwell. The

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Speaker 3: Taiwanese say it's been given the snip snip by the Chinese,

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Speaker 3: and we'll find out whether there's truth and that if it's.

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Speaker 2: To do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Rich and Mayor's Insurance and Investments,

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01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: Grow your Wealth, Protect your Future.

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01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 3: News talks edb big mystery out of Santa Fe, New

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01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,839
Speaker 3: mex in the US tonight. This is about Gene Hackman,

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Speaker 3: who's the actor, was ninety five years old, sadly passed

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Speaker 3: away along with his wife Betsy at a Kawa. They

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Speaker 3: were reportedly a very happy couple living together with lots

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Speaker 3: of animals, including a dog that was also found dead

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Speaker 3: at the home. Now we've been talking this afternoon. We

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Speaker 3: had Damn Mitch snoelm We've had a reporter out of

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01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: LA because they're obviously across it there with his Hollywood connections.

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Speaker 3: But they have now released the police released. They do

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Speaker 3: this very quickly, but a preliminary autopsy into the case

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Speaker 3: and they have found the police according to the police

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Speaker 3: release on the autopsy, no external trauma to either individual.

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Speaker 3: So Gene Hackman was found in the mud room by

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Speaker 3: the front door, Betsy was found in the bathroom, and

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 3: the dog was apparently found in another area of the home.

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Speaker 3: And there were some pills, some prescription medication that was

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Speaker 3: spelt on the floor in the bathroom near Betsy. But

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Speaker 3: apart from that, it's all a bit of a mystery.

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01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: Initially people thought, oh, it was it a gas leak

1595
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: because all three of them, the two humans and the pet,

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01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: had passed away and in seemingly all at the same time.

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Speaker 3: The answer to that question was no, because they did

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Speaker 3: some checks. So still the mystery remains at this point.

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Speaker 3: The toxicology reports they're hoping will give them more information.

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven minutes after six were off to Asia and

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Speaker 3: London right after the news.

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Speaker 2: Day. Oh aren't you one? Need you Olga h need.

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful things that are crunching the numbers and getting

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01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 2: the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the business hour and mass insurance

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: and investments.

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Speaker 2: Grew your wealth, protect your future. News dogs that'd be.

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Speaker 14: From the sound Enjoy twenty five away from seven.

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Speaker 3: You're on news Talk se b I hope you're enjoying

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01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: your Friday evening. A lot of people have been texting

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Speaker 3: in after our sports huddle earlier with Nicky Styrus and

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Speaker 3: Matt Brown, just asking what time is the Warriors game

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Speaker 3: on in New Zealand because it's obviously been played over

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas. It's one PM New Zealand time Warriors

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Speaker 3: Fee Raiders. And I can confirm that I've now heard

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Speaker 3: from my brother because obviously it's Las Vegas, it's the

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01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: city of sin and I hadn't heard from him in

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01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 3: two days and I was starting to get a little

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01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: bit worried. Anyway, He's just sent through a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of photos having great time with his mates, along with

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01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 3: apparently hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other Kiweks who

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Speaker 3: were all wearing Warriors jerseys. Twenty four away from.

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Speaker 2: Seven, Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: He looks like me just ugbia.

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Speaker 2: You're interested, Ryan Bridge?

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Speaker 3: If Peter Lewis is our Asia business correspondent, high hi

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Speaker 3: o Ryan. And Now Indonesia and Apple are apparently agreeing

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 3: on terms to lift an iPhone sixteen band. What's this about?

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01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 10: Yes, well, this is to do with a regulation that

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 10: smartphones that are sold in India have to have forty

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01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 10: percent of their contents and their components sourced locally. Now,

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01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 10: this forty percent role has been a problem for a

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01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 10: lot of manufacturers in Indonesia because it's quite hard to meet.

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01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 10: It's actually very difficult to find all the bits and

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 10: components that you need locally to be able to put

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Speaker 10: into a smartphone like an iPhone sixteen. Well, it was

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Speaker 10: deemed by the Indonesian government that Apple didn't meet this

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Speaker 10: forty percent requirement, so they banned sales altogether of the

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01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 10: iPhone sixteen until it was resolved. Now, the interesting thing

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 10: about this is that Apple has tried very hard to

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01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 10: resolve it because Indonesia is a very big market. There's

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Speaker 10: about three hundred million people there, so it's certainly a

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01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 10: market that Apple wants to operate in. It initially offered

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01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 10: ten million dollars to invest that was nowhere near enough.

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01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 10: It offered one hundred million dollars then to go and

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Speaker 10: invest in Indonesia, and then finally it offered one billion

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Speaker 10: dollars to completely build a new plant in India, but

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01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 10: the government turned it down and said, despite it being

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Speaker 10: a billion dollars, you still weren't sourcing forty percent of

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01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 10: your components locally. What they have now done is they've

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01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 10: come to an agreement where there are going to be

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01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 10: a couple of new plants from Apple in Indonesia and

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Speaker 10: they're going to invest about three hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 10: So what the Indonesian government hasn't explained here is how

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Speaker 10: they've ended up going down from a one billion dollar

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Speaker 10: investment to three hundred and fifty million dollars. Why didn't

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01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 10: they accept the ini or one billion dollars because you know,

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Speaker 10: this is a very significant investment in an emerging market

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Speaker 10: like Indonesia. But anyway, everyone seems to be happy. The

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 10: government seems to be happy. Apple seems to be happy.

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Speaker 10: They're going to be providing jobs for local people there

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01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 10: when they build this factory, which will be Apple's very

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Speaker 10: first one in Indonesia.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating and what a low ball to start with the

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Speaker 3: ten million dollars. I'm glad they go.

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01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 10: That's someone in the Indonesian government hasn't got the art

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01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 10: of the deal.

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01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 3: No, certainly not. Now Taiwan has apparently caught a Chinese

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: own ship cutting a sub seed cable' what's this about?

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01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 3: What was the cable for? And have we had confirmation

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01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 3: from the Chinese on the salt or what?

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Speaker 10: We haven't heard a word from the Chinese. The Taiwanese

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01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 10: governments say that they caught red handed this boat attempting

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Speaker 10: to cut an underwater cable. These are the cables that

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01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 10: vide international data traffic and provide Internet. We've seen this

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01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 10: in the Baltics with Russia cutting cables around the Baltic

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Speaker 10: States and around Finland. Now in Taiwan, they call this

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01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 10: gray zone activities. In other words, it's sort of activities

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01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 10: that fall short of an act of war, but nevertheless

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01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 10: they're very intimidating. So the thought sort of things that

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 10: Taiwan that China does here is providing putting blockades around

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01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 10: the island, harassing local fishermen and fishing boats, cyber attacks

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01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 10: and so on. So this is part of those what

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01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 10: they call gray zone operations have been going on now

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01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 10: for quite a while around Taiwan, as you know, to

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Speaker 10: China wants to have a reunification between the mainland and Taiwan.

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Speaker 10: The Coastguard caught the boat. It was just staffed with

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Speaker 10: with Chinese nationals. They've been taken back to Taiwan and

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01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 10: local prosecutors are investigating. But this all comes at a

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01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 10: rather difficult time for Taiwan because they're watching nervously what

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01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 10: is going on with Ukraine, and there is a feeling

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01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 10: obviously that Ukraine is maybe being sold down the water

1693
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 10: here and what is the US's stance going to be

1694
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 10: on Taiwan. Donald Trump hasn't actually said so far what

1695
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 10: his thoughts are about Taiwanese, about the harassment that's going

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01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 10: on around Taiwan, and about the reunification of China, of

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Speaker 10: mainland China and the island. So we wait to see.

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01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 10: But people in Taiwan are quite nervous about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can imagine now Trump at the White House

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01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 3: taking aim on Chinese trade and investment. We know that

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01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 3: he's put some of those tariffs on Then how's that

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01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 3: been received there?

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01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 10: Well, this is this is going to become a big

1704
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 10: issue because just in the last twenty four hours Taiwan,

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01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 10: Trump has said he's going to double the tariffs that

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01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 10: are on Chinese goods. They were originally set at ten percent.

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Speaker 10: These were actually, out of all the tariffs that he's threatened,

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Speaker 10: the only ones that actually went into effect at the

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01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 10: beginning of the month. Well as of March the fourth,

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Speaker 10: they are going to become twenty percent, along with twenty

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01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 10: five percent tariffs on Mexico and Canada. It's not totally

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01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 10: clear why they're being doubled on China. It's made clear

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01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 10: that he's unhappy with Mexico and Canada because of fentanyl

1714
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 10: going over the border, which he says is flooding in

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Speaker 10: through Canada and Mexico. China and the US have been

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Speaker 10: working quite hard in the last year or so on

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Speaker 10: the fentanyl issue, and China believes it had made quite

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Speaker 10: good progress with the US on this, so it's rather

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Speaker 10: bemused as to why it's now had these how it

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Speaker 10: is doubled. It'll be interesting to see what China will do.

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Speaker 10: Last time, at the beginning of the month, they introduced

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Speaker 10: their own tariffs within minutes of the US ones coming

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Speaker 10: into effects. The problem is, there aren't a lot of

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Speaker 10: things that China can put tariffs on, So the best

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Speaker 10: thing that it can do here while all this is

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Speaker 10: going on is try and boost its own domestic economy.

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Speaker 10: It's what known as the two Sessions coming up next week,

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Speaker 10: which is the annual meeting of the Chinese legislature. They're

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Speaker 10: going to focus on the economy and trying to find

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Speaker 10: ways of boosting the local economy. This will be the

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Speaker 10: best way of trying to counter all these actions. Trump's

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Speaker 10: talking about other things as well. He wants Mexico to

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Speaker 10: put tariffs on Chinese goods because some countries are rerouting

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Speaker 10: their products through Mexico, and is also threatening to put

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Speaker 10: a tariff on any Chinese made ship that docks anywhere

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Speaker 10: in the US. Now, as he does that, that's going

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Speaker 10: to have a huge, huge impact on international trade and

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Speaker 10: relations with not just China, but with a host of

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Speaker 10: other countries as well. So it seems that, you know,

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Speaker 10: China may be the main target of all these tariffs

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01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 10: because Trump is certainly ramping up the pressure at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Certainly is Thank you so much for that, Peter, A

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01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 3: very comprehensive wrap from you. Peter Lewis our Asia business

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Speaker 3: correspondent with US with the ladies from the region. Just

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01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 3: gone seventeen minutes away from seven coming up next to

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray. Now, don't get sick of Trump. It's not

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01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,919
Speaker 3: about Trump. It's about the economic relationship between the countries

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Speaker 3: that he's currently engaging with. So we've just spoken about China.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, we're going to talk about the UK.

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Speaker 3: We know that there's been talk or threats of tariffs.

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Speaker 3: He's done it to the EU. He hasn't done it

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Speaker 3: to the UK. They don't have a trade surplus with

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01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 3: the Brits at the moment, but what he is talking

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01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 3: about now is potentially a trade deal, which is a

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Speaker 3: completely different prospect. Indeed, Gavin Gray next, whether it's.

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Speaker 1: Macro micro or just playing economics, it's all on the

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Speaker 1: business hours with Ryan Bridge and Mayor's insurance and investments,

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01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 3: He's talksv thirteen minutes away from seven. Gavin Gray's a

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent, Gavin Good evening.

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Speaker 2: Hi there right.

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Speaker 3: I've got to say I've been a little skeptical about Starma,

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01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 3: but he is. What a performance he put on. We're

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Speaker 3: calling him Starma charmer or charmer Starma over here at

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Speaker 3: the White House, very shrewd, playing to Trump's ego, all

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Speaker 3: of those things, and potentially a trade deal or talks

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Speaker 3: of one at least.

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Speaker 24: Yes, I'm a very interesting press conference to pair. Held

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Speaker 24: for nearly thirty minutes. He and of course Donald Trump.

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Speaker 24: There was talk about Ukraine. He didn't get his way.

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Speaker 24: I don't think on that very much. He's offering to

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01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 24: send troops, but he wants American air cover. The President

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01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 24: sounded very dubious about that, suggesting Europe provided, but on

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01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 24: trade much much more upbeat, and sakist Armer arrived with

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01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 24: the sort of major gift, which is a second state

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01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 24: visit to the UK by Donald Trump. That would be unprecedented.

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01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 24: I think he definitely played his ego there. Immediately Trump

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01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 24: said he would come and describe the king as a

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01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 24: wonderful man, and what a great honor it would be.

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Speaker 24: He's a huge raph fan, So yeah, Sakis Stamer took

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01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 24: that knowing that that would go down extremely well. But

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01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 24: he let the President do most of the talking and

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01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 24: certainly seem to be getting on pretty well with him.

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Speaker 24: They are so different people, they're real chalk and cheese.

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Speaker 24: But I think sakis Starmer had learned to play, as

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01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 24: you said, a bit to his ego, and this talk

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01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 24: about a trade deal would be a huge relief. They've

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01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 24: been talking about this trade deal now for years and

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01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 24: years and years, and when Joe Biden took over the

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01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 24: administration it seemed to be even further away. He seemed

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Speaker 24: to go the other way. But Donald Trump, I think,

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01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 24: very keen to get a trade deal. But what is

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01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 24: the UK going to have to give in in order

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01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 24: to get that, and will it mean that we don't

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01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 24: have to suffer from the tariffs, which he's holding over

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01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 24: as some kind of threat to the EU and also

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01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 24: partially to the UK.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these second busiest airport in London and courses getwork.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be allowed to expand to two simultaneously

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Speaker 3: functioning runways given.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, so the government has made since July a big

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01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 24: pledge of getting growth going in the UK. We really

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01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 24: haven't had substantial growth and they say we're.

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01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 2: Going to build as well.

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01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 24: And one of these sort of low hanging bits of

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01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 24: fruit there Ryan. In other words, an easy take is

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01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 24: this allowing to use a second runway at Gatwick Airport,

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01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 24: the second busiest runway, second busiest.

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01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Airport in the UK.

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Speaker 24: It's just to the south of London. It already has

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01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,879
Speaker 24: two runways, but it only operates as a single runway airport.

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01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 24: So that's why I describe it as the easy option.

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01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 24: The northern runway is currently only used for taxiing or

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01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 24: as a backup, so it wouldn't take a huge amount

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01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 24: to make it operational, say within the next five years.

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01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 24: It's a huge plan, costing well over five billion New

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01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 24: Zealand dollars, but we're not there yet. It still requires

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01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 24: planning permission, some MPs are against it. Of course, even

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01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 24: within the government's own party local authorities, the local councilors

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01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 24: are against some of them. And indeed it will still

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01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 24: have to get this planning permission through and there'll no

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01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 24: doubt be an environmental kickback on that. But this is

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01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 24: seen to be as perhaps one of the most obvious

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01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 24: decisions to make when the government talks about growth, and

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01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 24: in theory, as I mentioned, could be done by the

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Speaker 24: early twenty thirties.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Hey, this Colombian guy who's been caught trying to

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Speaker 3: smuggle drugs, what's he doing? How's he doing it?

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Speaker 24: Well, he's effectively taped the drugs to the underside of

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01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 24: a wig and then put the wig on his head

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01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 24: and he's tried to smuggle some eighteen thousand worth and

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01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 24: New Zealand dollars worth of cocaine. However, as we probably

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01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 24: all could say, Ryan, we've seen some very convincing wigs,

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01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 24: and then we've seen some not so convincing wigs. And

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01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 24: I have to say this man who came from the

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01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 24: Raphael Nunez International Airport flying into Amsterdam, Netherlands, had perhaps

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01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 24: the least convincing wig I've seen the forty year old

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01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 24: attempted to board the plane and footage shows him being

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01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 24: talked to by police, showing the wig being cut off

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01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 24: from the man's head to reveal nineteen capsules of the substance,

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01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 24: weighing some two hundred and twenty grams worth of cocaine.

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01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 24: He's been arrested on suspicion of trafficking and no doubt

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01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 24: the Dutch authority is very pleased to be keeping that

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Speaker 24: drug out of their nation.

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01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 3: Certainly given and always always buy the good wig. I

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01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 3: guess this is them all of the story, Kevin Gray,

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Speaker 3: UK Chorus won and thanks so much for your time, Gevin.

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Speaker 3: Nine minutes away from seven News Talk Zibby.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto to See Allan Drive full show podcast

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01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk Zibby.

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Speaker 3: What a week six minutes away from seven before we

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01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: go today, just a quick update on the Jeff Bezos front,

1853
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 3: the billionaire who owns Amazon. He also owns the spaceflight

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01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 3: company Blue Origin and they are sending an all female

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01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,879
Speaker 3: flight up into space. Who's going? I hear you asking?

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Speaker 3: Katie Perry, the pop singer, Gail King, Lauren Sanchez, Aischabao,

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01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 3: Amanda Neunion, and Carrie Anne Flynn. I know two of

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01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 3: those people, so there you go. Actually is it one

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01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 3: of them his wife or his new wife? I think

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01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 3: one of them might be, So there you go. They're

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01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,799
Speaker 3: going to go up in Blue Origin's eleventh Human Voyage.

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01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 3: It's going to be an all female ship into space

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01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 3: and that'd be fun. Little girl's weekend away.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was gonna say, I'd probab married you bok.

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01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 8: I'm and I got go to space as well, and

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01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 8: money'd be nice too. Superstylin by groov Armada to play

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01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 8: us out tonight Ryan Arden's Music Festival. It's actually happening

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01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 8: right now in Auckland at the Auckland to Main and

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01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 8: it's a two day festival. So tonight Wilkinson nineteen ninety

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Speaker 8: ninety one culture shop people for generally kind of the

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01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,160
Speaker 8: younger audience, and then tomorrow is the stuff for the

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01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 8: older audience. We've got groovar Mada too many DJs and

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Speaker 8: Robin s as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll all be playing.

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Speaker 3: Sounds, good love, a bit of groover of Marta. Thank

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01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 3: you and thank you everybody for listening for all of

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01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 3: your texts and your feedback. It's been a great week

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01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 3: we'll see you on Monday.

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Speaker 25: So we dropped on the line one time lyric and

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Speaker 25: mustake on your mark to this your spirit on your mind.

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Speaker 12: Tom maybe that's.

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Speaker 6: We're like, we're like.

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Speaker 2: And indeed on slogating and we begin throwing them in

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Speaker 2: this center.

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Speaker 12: They watched me with him, Watch the way we drop

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01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 12: it in a mixed time rise and amplifying.

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Speaker 25: Then we're coming with these wings, just trying arm and

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01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 25: it climb into position with things. So life from Ata

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Speaker 25: getto with maximising some of the googama that was.

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Speaker 12: So fustil

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