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Speaker 2: Welcome today Winston and his new ship's new data on

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Speaker 2: our smoking rates. We've got good news on the school

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Speaker 2: Little hops in from the UK pasking welcome to the

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Speaker 2: day seven past six. Might one day Clay Higgins of

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Speaker 2: Louisiana turn out to be an American hero. He was

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Speaker 2: the vote, the one vote on the Epstein decision who

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Speaker 2: said no. As it turns out, he said no for

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Speaker 2: very solid reasons. If you read it, if an acted

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Speaker 2: in its current form, this type of broad reveal of

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Speaker 2: criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely

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Speaker 2: result in innocent people being hurt. He said he would

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Speaker 2: only look at it again if it came back from

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Speaker 2: the Senate. A mended Chuck Schumer said at the time

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Speaker 2: it won't be the case, and it isn't. Higgins makes

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Speaker 2: valid points. He's also on the Oversight committee, by the way,

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Speaker 2: that conducted the Epstein probe. His concerns also include the

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Speaker 2: fact that this all abandons two hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 2: of criminal justice procedure. In the papers, he points out,

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Speaker 2: there are thousands of innocent people, witnesses, people who've provided

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Speaker 2: Alibia's family members, all of whom will be caught up

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Speaker 2: through no fault of their own, simply because hysteria ruled

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Speaker 2: and a mass dump of all information was voted on.

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Speaker 2: As an aside, Kevin Rudd has engaged a lawyer to

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Speaker 2: write to a publication that was going to put out

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Speaker 2: a piece by Michael Wolfe and which he says Rudd

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Speaker 2: was at a cocktail party with Epstein. Rudd can prove

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Speaker 2: no such thing happen. Now that's not a big deal,

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Speaker 2: of course, but it is an example of how simple

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Speaker 2: it is to create a wrong, none of which is

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Speaker 2: to defend the Epstein actions, of course, all Maxwell's, or

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Speaker 2: any of the legitimate political noise that has swelled around

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Speaker 2: all of this. But just last week, the frenzy around

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Speaker 2: small snippets of detail involving the word Trump were screaming

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Speaker 2: of law really nailed Trump to Epstein's must, and that's

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Speaker 2: at the core of all of this. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people want Trump and their death spirit for a connection

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Speaker 2: strong enough to finish them to a degree, everyone has

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Speaker 2: lost their heads. Rules around procedures out massisteria ensues. But

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Speaker 2: in one vote, even fleetingly Higgins of Louisiana tried to

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Speaker 2: remind us that amid the they say one million bits

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Speaker 2: of evidence might lie some sort of smoking gun, or

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Speaker 2: it might not, but just that prospect that sniff is

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Speaker 2: more than enough to trample over innocence and legal standing.

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Speaker 2: The longer this goes with no gotcha moment, the smarter

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Speaker 2: Higgins of Louisiana looks.

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Speaker 1: Why news of the world in ninety second.

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Speaker 2: So let's wrap. The Saudi visited at the White House.

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Speaker 2: Ronaldo popped in his star turn. Trump made this claim,

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Speaker 2: they'd like very much to.

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Speaker 3: Make a deal with us, and they call us and

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Speaker 3: we'll end up probably doing that.

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Speaker 2: That's Iran, Yeah, so Iran, which well came as a

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Speaker 2: surprise to Iran.

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Speaker 4: You have to make the very small to be sure

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Speaker 4: they already to engage because on the conditions that they put.

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Speaker 2: Move or no move anyway. Meantime, Beck in Britain Sakia,

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Speaker 2: who allegedly now has eighty. Beck is looking for a

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Speaker 2: skelp as busy sprooking next Wednesday's budget.

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Speaker 5: It'll be a labor budget, mister Speaker, with labor values.

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Speaker 5: That means we will concentrate on cutting NHS waiting lists,

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Speaker 5: cutting debt and cutting a cost of living. And because

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Speaker 5: of the decisions we've already made, inflation is down this morning.

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Speaker 2: Significant to the eighty By the way, is that's the

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Speaker 2: number you need for a challenge? The Tories can't waite.

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Speaker 6: He says.

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Speaker 7: The budget is next week, but we read all about

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Speaker 7: it in the papers. This is the first budget to

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Speaker 7: unravel before it's even been delivered. The Chancellor's cluelessness, i'm afraid,

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Speaker 7: is damaging the economy now. The Prime Minister needs to

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Speaker 7: end this shambles.

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Speaker 2: Upside is Rachel the aforementioned from Starmer. She got a

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Speaker 2: power decent inflation number today.

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Speaker 8: I recognize that inflation, the cost of living is still

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Speaker 8: a big burden on families right across the country. And

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Speaker 8: that's why in the budget next week, I'll be taking

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Speaker 8: targeted action to bring down inflation, to address the cost

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Speaker 2: North of the border. This still fizzing over the Denmark

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Speaker 2: victory and the ticket to the Cup, including the first Minister.

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Speaker 9: I am here having been at Hampden Park last night

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Speaker 2: All that layes ahead, isn't it? Finally, it's auction season.

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Speaker 2: I have art you shortly, but also sold as a

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Speaker 2: pocket watch for a new record. It's a nineteen oh

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Speaker 2: seven piece by Coventry watchmaker Joseph Player, sold in Geneva.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the world's most complicated vintage pocket watches.

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Speaker 2: It has moonfase tracking, it's got an alarm and built

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Speaker 2: in thermometers. It is nineteen oh seven. It's incredible. Sold

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Speaker 2: for four point nine million dollars and that is news

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Speaker 2: three point four, and officially the Epstein thing has cleared

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Speaker 2: both chambers. It is now with the President. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Zevy speaking of Epstein, the former Treasury secretary mentioned yesterday

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Speaker 2: Larry some as he was withdrawing from public life basically,

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Speaker 2: but he's still on the bord of open Ai. That

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Speaker 2: was until overnight when you decided to quit. And interestingly,

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Speaker 2: the Hyundai chief executive has said, this goes back to

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Speaker 2: House has rung Hyundai, and indeed the governor of Georgia

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Speaker 2: has rung Hyundai and apologized, which is half decent. Fifteen

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Speaker 2: past six, I'm sure in partner's Andrew Klahoe, how are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm very well, thank you, Michael.

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Speaker 2: Has the world still turning as we wait for in video?

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Speaker 2: Does that the whole world stop or just a few people?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's really no other story in town at the moment.

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Speaker 11: It's a little unusual, I guess, and particularly for people

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Speaker 11: cannot deny that at the moment, sentiment is a powerful

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Speaker 10: Will always be a spotlight on it.

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Speaker 11: But given the fact that we've seen sort of markets

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Speaker 11: sort of calm the farm here a little bit, Mike.

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Speaker 10: Just look at the numbers. The NASA Condex has fallen

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, the NaSTA rose almost eighteen percent

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Speaker 10: In Video, though, has been a real focus.

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Speaker 10: Look, and Video has been under a bit of pressure recently.

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Speaker 11: shortening the stock as well, Mike, I just think, just

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Speaker 11: just how much should you be prepared to pay for

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Speaker 11: what is the impact on what's happening with China, what's

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Speaker 10: Point at the moment. But they all will be revealed

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Speaker 2: One yes, indeed it will these job numbers tomorrow. Is

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Speaker 11: Look, they're sort of they're they're in catch up mode

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Speaker 11: So Thursday morning, US time, we finally get an official

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Speaker 10: But we have had some data mic there's been some

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Speaker 10: It's a big deal.

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Speaker 11: It has importance and influence over the next move by

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Speaker 11: the US Fed Reserve, and in that vein there's now

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Speaker 11: a ninety percent chance. That's also putting pressure on share markets.

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Speaker 10: Be given less importance if there are concerns over quality.

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Speaker 11: The backdrop is important because the Fed has a dual

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Speaker 11: mandate jobs market and inflation. There are concerns over inflation,

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Speaker 11: but the job market's potentially looking a little weak.

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Speaker 10: And we know because jur and.

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Speaker 11: Power told us the Fed Committee has divided. So both

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Speaker 11: these things in video. These they add up to a

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Speaker 2: And thirty seven cents seed tomorrow Mane Andrew kelliher Jo

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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sports, entertainment, opinion, and Mike

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Speaker 1: estate differently since nineteen seventy three news togs dead been

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Speaker 2: Read in Italy which doesn't play well from Maloney. So

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Speaker 2: more from Joe shortly back here at twenty three to seven.

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Speaker 2: Late yesterday, the Health Minister tells us they're pausing the

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Speaker 2: prescription for puberty blockers. They're concerned about long term impacts

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Speaker 2: existing patients, so we'll continue. The changes come into effect

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Speaker 2: December nineteen. A doctor John Cameron registered gp IS with

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Speaker 2: us John morning as an issue you know and all

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Speaker 2: Where does puberty blockers sit.

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Speaker 13: It's a very small part of our life. I probably

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Speaker 2: And if I round up one hundred GPS to get

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Speaker 13: If you've got one hundred GPS, you've got two hundred opinions.

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Speaker 13: It's a normal way of life.

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Speaker 14: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Where's this decision come from? Is this an out of

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Speaker 13: No, no, no, It's been a discussion in medical circles

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Speaker 13: for a long period of time. A major thing was

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Speaker 13: going to be the long term health outcomes from puberty blockers. Now,

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Speaker 13: puberty blockers are not gender reidentification medicines, so they don't

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Speaker 13: turn male into female, female into male. All they do

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Speaker 13: if and when you decide to change your gender, you're

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Speaker 13: So you've got to put it into that perspective for

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Speaker 13: a state. The problem that we've got is that ESAP

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Speaker 13: to be absolutely safe. If they weren't safe, we would

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Speaker 13: be stopping all access to these medicines. But as you said,

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Speaker 13: just don't have enough evidence for long term safety and effectiveness.

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Speaker 13: So we're talking twenty thirty forty years because we're starting

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Speaker 13: these medicines and children of nine years of age. Now,

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Speaker 13: I would hope that the decision has been made on

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Speaker 2: That was my very next question. Do you think it's ideological?

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Speaker 2: And as if it is ideological, if a change of

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Speaker 13: I doubt it that this has been in big discussions,

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Speaker 13: And the problem with any discussion medicine you get completely

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Speaker 13: probably a good idea. It does not mean that we're

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Speaker 13: going to stop caring for these individuals. It means that

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Speaker 13: should be doing this in primary care, in conjunction with

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Speaker 13: We've got other tools to use, it's just this one's

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, John good insight. I appreciate it. Doctor John

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Speaker 2: these GDP numbers. I don't think you had much growth

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Speaker 14: saying that, you know, she's the one who is here

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Speaker 14: to revive the economy, and she's constantly talking about a

439
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Speaker 14: boom and all the good stuff she's doing. I'm not

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Speaker 14: sure people really believe that. And we're going to see

441
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Speaker 14: the impact of the tariffs from Trump and the international

442
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Speaker 14: uncertainty I think having an impact as well.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I've got a question for you about military

444
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Speaker 2: in the minment with a civilian military unit to combat

445
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Speaker 2: hybrid warfare?

446
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Speaker 1: What is that?

447
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Speaker 2: What do they mean?

448
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Speaker 14: Look, it sounds a bit vague to me, but the

449
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Speaker 14: Defense Minister, Guido Corosseto has released a report talking about

450
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Speaker 14: these threats that we're seeing allegedly from Russians attacking infrastructure

451
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Speaker 14: across Europe, and he's talking about the need for a

452
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Speaker 14: civilian military unit that sounds like a tech unit of

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Speaker 14: some kind to monitor and try and get ahead of

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Speaker 14: some of these hybrid attacks.

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Speaker 2: Five thousand people's a lot of people. Where are they

456
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Speaker 2: getting them from?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: Exactly are they going to recruit new people? A. They're

459
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Speaker 14: going to recruit experts, and they're going to recruit them

460
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Speaker 14: from already from existing military It's not very clear.

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Speaker 2: My military question, and you mentioned Germany it triggered me,

462
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Speaker 2: is that they're looking for the sort of military service.

463
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Speaker 2: They're looking to boost their standing army by tens of

464
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Speaker 2: thousands over the next handful of years. Do you still

465
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Speaker 2: in Italy have that military service at eighteen that you've

466
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Speaker 2: got to go do some time?

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Speaker 14: No, In fact, it doesn't exist really anymore. It's voluntary.

468
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Speaker 14: So I think that's going to be an issue for

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Speaker 14: the Italians going forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Anyway, influences rules around influence. What's an influencer?

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Speaker 2: Do they define that?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: They do.

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Speaker 14: I don't think it's going to affect me. Apparently, you

475
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Speaker 14: have to have at least a million subscribers to qualify

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Speaker 14: for this new registry, and you have plenty of supporters

477
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Speaker 14: and some financial income coming from all your influence as well,

478
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Speaker 14: and I think the fines are quite hefty though. The

479
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Speaker 14: influencers have to register with the government. They risk fines

480
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Speaker 14: of six six hundred thousand euros if they violate this

481
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Speaker 14: new code of conduct, trying to get more regulation on

482
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Speaker 14: those who are on the web and using their influence

483
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Speaker 14: to make a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you register and then you, having registered, you

485
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Speaker 2: have to adhere to a set of rules. What are

486
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Speaker 2: the rules? I mean, is it like, because I'm thinking

487
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Speaker 2: you have only fans, I mean, does that make you

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Speaker 2: an influencer you go down mat track or is it

489
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Speaker 2: just selling stuff or what?

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Speaker 16: I think?

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Speaker 14: There's a pretty detailed I haven't seen all the details,

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Speaker 14: but it's say it's applying to people who publish at

493
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Speaker 14: least twenty four pieces of content, they have an engagement

494
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Speaker 14: rate of two percent or higher on at least one

495
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Speaker 14: social media platform. There's a lot of requirements that are

496
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Speaker 14: not quite clear to me, but it's certainly designed to

497
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Speaker 14: stop exploitation and false information.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Now I'm reading the other day sky Scanner, which

499
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Speaker 2: is an international market research company, and they did a

500
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Speaker 2: whole twenty two thousand people under the radar destinations and

501
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Speaker 2: up popped in number seven. Albia in Italy and I've

502
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Speaker 2: never heard of it. Have you heard of Albia?

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Speaker 16: I haven't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see that's I think it's so under the radar.

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Speaker 2: Nonzeb you heard it? And if you're living in Italy

506
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Speaker 2: and you've never heard of Albia, apparently this is the

507
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Speaker 2: place that people want to go, so I know that.

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Speaker 14: Oh okay, okay, another lother location.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Olbia and Italy. Can you do some research

510
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Speaker 2: on that and workout whether it is a place worth

511
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Speaker 2: going to because Jaipour's up there, Bowdrum, Madeira. I've heard

512
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Speaker 2: of all of these veil Bill, bau Michinoster or famous places,

513
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Speaker 2: but this albe a place I've never heard of in

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 14: Oh Albia is? It is coming to mind now. It's

516
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Speaker 14: a beautiful beach location in Grandinia, so that certainly requires

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Speaker 14: more research.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, now get onto that for us, Joe and

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Speaker 2: I'll check back in next Thursday with you acable fantastic. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that is Joe McKenna in Italy. By the way, just

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Speaker 2: to help me out if you went to I'm not

522
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Speaker 2: anticipating anyone went to Metallica last night. Who's listening at

523
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Speaker 2: this hour of the morning. I may be wrong, but

524
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Speaker 2: I don't think I am. If you went to Metallica,

525
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Speaker 2: let me know whether it was worth it. If you

526
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Speaker 2: went to Cliff Richard, let me know in what form

527
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Speaker 2: is Cliff Richard these days concert wise? Because he's in

528
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Speaker 2: the country, He's done a couple of shows and I'm

529
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Speaker 2: just one. Where's he at performatively speaking? These days? You're

530
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Speaker 2: getting a good show? How long the show? As he

531
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Speaker 2: playing the old favorites? Is he interacting with the audience?

532
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Speaker 2: What's going on? The other one I want to know

533
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Speaker 2: is Priscilla Presley, who was who's in the country also

534
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Speaker 2: talking about herself, and I want to know if you

535
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Speaker 2: went to that show and you've seen her, what the

536
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Speaker 2: show's like, what happens? Would you go back for more?

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Speaker 2: Was there any merch you know, like do you buy

538
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Speaker 2: a Priscilla T shirt or whatever signed book? And how

539
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: did that go for you? So just some feedback on

540
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: that if you could text me ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Costing Breakfast with the Defender and use Tom

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Speaker 1: said be as.

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Speaker 2: I should tell you. Ryan Mettal who they make things

544
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Speaker 2: that go bang for Wars forecast sales of fifty eight

545
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Speaker 2: billion by twenty thirty, up from ten billion currently ten

546
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Speaker 2: to fifty eight billion. There is nothing like a war

547
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Speaker 2: to boost business if you make things that go bang.

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Speaker 2: Mike spenttime o'b be your last year. Stunning little porttown

549
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Speaker 2: in northern Sardinia. Unbelievably beautiful beaches, lesser known so no crowds, friendly,

550
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Speaker 2: authentic people. Highly recommend it, Mike. We stayed in Albeita

551
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Speaker 2: this year in June. Nothing special there, you see, everyone's

552
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Speaker 2: a critic all be your inside, didn't you, Mike. Fantastic

553
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Speaker 2: place there in June this year. Death will go back Andrew.

554
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Speaker 2: The other person doesn't have a name. Both people there

555
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Speaker 2: in June. One loved it, one didn't. Funny a Mike,

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Speaker 2: I went to Metallica last night. Good on you. I'm

557
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Speaker 2: so pleased you're up early. We went to Metallica. Last

558
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: night's show was great. Trains afterwards were a shambles. Well,

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Speaker 2: you're telling me nothing there. Flying home to duneed in

560
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Speaker 2: this morning. Metallica was fantastic, intense energy, full volume. Loved it.

561
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Speaker 2: I was at Metallica beyond amazing. God bless you for

562
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Speaker 2: being up after Metallica. Mike, Cliff Richard, older, slower, more tentative,

563
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Speaker 2: but still a great voice. Really enjoyed it. Well done, Craig,

564
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Speaker 2: appreciate that. Nothing from the Priscilla crowd. I think that's

565
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Speaker 2: not until tonight. Now she was in christ You yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I sees, yeah, we're nationwide and we go all over

567
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Speaker 2: the country, and so she was in christ You yesterday, Auckland.

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Speaker 2: I believed tonight at the Bruce Mason. So if you

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Speaker 2: were at Priscilla, I need to know. So I've got

570
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: good Metallica feedback, decent Cliff Richard feedback. All I need

571
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Speaker 2: is Priscilla to complete the quanella five minutes away from seven,

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Speaker 2: all the ins.

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Speaker 12: And the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the beiz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: No, I got good news rolling it. Actually I didn't

577
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Speaker 2: get to the informetric stuff. I said I'd get to

578
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: that and I haven't done it. God, I'm hopeless. Anyway,

579
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Speaker 2: let me give you the zespri stuff. That's good. November

580
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: forecast twenty five to twenty six season returns are up

581
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: per tray on everything, basically per hectar level. We're now

582
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: expecting record returns for green organic green and gold. Over

583
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: All the season we exported a record turner fifteen million trays.

584
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: Indications are we going to go better? These are forecasts

585
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: between August and November per tray so zespre green, you're

586
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: getting nine ten to nine sixty five, which is above

587
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Speaker 2: the top of the indicative brains back in August, good good,

588
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: Good Organic Green twelve thirty eight to thirteen oh three,

589
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: once again above the top range. Sun Gold from eleven

590
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: thirty to eleven seventy Organic sun Gold fourteen eighty three

591
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: to fifteen forty six above the top of the range.

592
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: And the new zespe Green fourteen. What's that? What's that?

593
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: Sam Green? But sweet swen Green fourteen? Small increase there

594
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: from mine fifty forty to nine sixty eight.

595
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Speaker 12: Can you tell it?

596
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: At the end of the year. Ruby Red fifteen seventy

597
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: six to fifteen eighty eight. That's why I'm spreaking the

598
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: Ruby red for Thinness sake. Get into the Ruby red.

599
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: I personally am not a huge fan of it. I

600
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: go green, but I know the health benefits of green. Actually,

601
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: I've got time to give you the infometric September quarterly

602
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: update zero point nine percent. Great, This is the whole GDP.

603
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: That's the whole shooting match. Zero point nine percent, they say,

604
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: more meaningful economic gains across most regions. All regions of

605
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: the South Island are growing faster than the national average.

606
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: That's no surprise. The metro areas. Here's your good news

607
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: collectively zero point seven percent, So thank the good Lord

608
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: for that improvement. For residential consents, that's house building up

609
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: three point six percent. Lived in professional service activity. Yes,

610
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: employment across the five South Island regions this quarter is

611
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: tailing off. They think the last it's going to be

612
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: the last to turn. We all know that employment's going

613
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: to be the last to turn. And they've still got

614
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: some worries around employment or unemployment as the case may be.

615
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: But if we get AQ three reading of zero point nine,

616
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: that is a very good number. Well, speaking of numbers,

617
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: Winston sent out the lads to sort something out around

618
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: around the two fairies. We need a little bit of

619
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Speaker 2: infrastructure build here. We've got this contract locked in with

620
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Speaker 2: the Chinese, so we'll talk to him about that very shortly.

621
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: And more good news than the schools. It seems the

622
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Speaker 2: phone ban is actually working.

623
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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

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Speaker 1: Mike the mic Hosking breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life

625
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Speaker 1: Your Way News togs Head by.

626
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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So we've got a faery deal to

627
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: new ships five hundred and ninety six million, pulled infrastructure

628
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: one point two billion. They arrive in twenty nine. They're

629
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: bigger than we currently have. And for the environmentalists their hybrids.

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Speaker 2: Whinston Peters stitched together the dealies with us good Morning,

631
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Speaker 2: Good Morning as an exercise. How competitive were the various

632
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Speaker 2: punters in this particular game. Was there a variation and

633
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: price or not?

634
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: Well, there were a number of tenders, of course, and

635
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: in the end the best one and one best analyzed

636
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: to cover all the requirements we had was out of China, and.

637
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: They were best on price or just best overall.

638
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: Were very very competitive on price, but best overall.

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00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Okay, the reassurances you have on price is that locks

640
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: locked in.

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00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: Well, you know this sort of business of going into

642
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: contracts and then the cost plus going forward is not

643
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: what they're going to do. And so yes, it's going

644
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: to be seriously locked and there is a four hundred

645
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: mill incontingency as part of this planning. But in the end,

646
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Speaker 4: this is a very very good deal.

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Speaker 2: The delivery timing is locked in or not.

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Speaker 4: It is yes ear twenty twenty nine one at the

649
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Speaker 4: end of tween.

650
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: So what's the bigger issue. Is the bigger issue local

651
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: construction here on the work you need to do there

652
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: around cost and timing, or the Chinese delivering the ships.

653
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Speaker 4: Now I'm real confident about the Chinese delivering the ships.

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Speaker 4: They've got a very good record on this. But look,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you have a look at what's

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Speaker 4: happening in Tasmania. They've got two big new fairies, they've

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Speaker 4: got no infrastructure and the whole thing's are They're They're

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Speaker 4: in a very embarrassing situation, which is exactly what would

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Speaker 4: have been next year in the year after that, because

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Speaker 4: there's no way in twenty twenty three they hadn't insigned

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Speaker 4: one contract on infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: No, no, we understand, we understand all of that, which

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Speaker 2: brings us to yesterday in the back and forward in

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Speaker 2: the business. I mean, at the end of the day,

665
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Speaker 2: you've got the problem solved, you've got two ships coming,

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Speaker 2: You've saved us a lot of money. That's the beginning,

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Speaker 2: in the middle and the end of it. Isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Well, Look, first of all, I got to read a

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Speaker 4: really hard nosed, tough, experienced team to do the job,

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Speaker 4: and we owe them a huge debt. They've got a

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Speaker 4: marve's job. And how shall I say that, how that

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Speaker 4: carve on working when with all the citizens around what

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Speaker 4: they were trying to do, which was in less in

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Speaker 4: less than eleven months, they have put together the solution.

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Speaker 4: So it all ends.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So given that, what are the learnings out of

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Speaker 2: this in government procuring services or product going forward?

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Speaker 4: Well, look, we've got so many examples. We've got Transmission Gully,

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Speaker 4: We've got poor to walk with her. Every contract blew

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Speaker 4: out massively and there were huge delays. We can't afford

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Speaker 4: to have that sort of behavior from central government. And

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying to a lot of people is some

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Speaker 4: of the politicians need to get out of down way

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Speaker 4: and get the right smart experienced business people, experienced trades people,

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Speaker 4: the captains and the ship owners and people like that

686
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Speaker 4: there who might know something. But what they're talking about

687
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Speaker 4: that we're going to farm all that in the future

688
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Speaker 4: rather than this cost plus blowout and massive expensive and

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Speaker 4: zeal taxpayer all.

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Speaker 2: Right, appreciate it. Winston Peters who is the Royal Minister.

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Speaker 2: Of course him in it's past seven. Smoking data out

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Speaker 2: this morning, so we're at six point eight percent six

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Speaker 2: point eight percent of smoke these days, which is down

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Speaker 2: zero point one percent on the previous year. Vaping though

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Speaker 2: at eleven point seven that's up from three point five

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Speaker 2: five years ago. Casey Costello's the Associate Health Minister, mourning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, it's six point eight about it. I mean

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Speaker 2: they're the hard cause they're not giving up. We're done.

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Speaker 17: No, I think there's still movement. The fifty five to

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Speaker 17: sixty four age bracket is our target market. The upsiders,

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Speaker 17: our young people aren't smoking under twenty fours of three

702
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Speaker 17: point two, which is below the five percent threshold, but

703
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Speaker 17: there is still real opportunity and the quit smoking providers

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Speaker 17: can see in your opportunity to target that sort of

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Speaker 17: the stubborn smokers. I think the trouble we had was

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Speaker 17: we got a real confusion around the message around vaping.

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Speaker 17: Nobody said it was safe, We said it was safer

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Speaker 17: than smoking. If you don't smoke, don't vade, But if

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Speaker 17: you smoke, faything can help. And we got really conflated, confused,

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Speaker 17: messages through.

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Speaker 2: That completely cocked it up and we were always going

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Speaker 2: to But having said that, do we know hard data

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Speaker 2: how many people vape will take up vaping because it's

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Speaker 2: cool and fun versus how many use it as a

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Speaker 2: genuine cessation tool.

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Speaker 17: The encouraging part. And we're waiting to see the ASH Survey,

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Speaker 17: which will come out in the next week or so.

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Speaker 17: ASH Survey does the sort of year ten eleven, and

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Speaker 17: they've been doing this for a number of years. The

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Speaker 17: last two years of seeing the young people vaping coming down,

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Speaker 17: which suggests that this coolness component is shifting. That we

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Speaker 17: are seeing that vaping is much more accessible. We've done

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Speaker 17: a huge investment and enforcement around the vaping that didn't

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Speaker 17: exist before we came in, and we've a massive drive

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Speaker 17: to ensure that we're keeping our young under eighteens out

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Speaker 17: of the vaping environment completely. And I think that's starting

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Speaker 17: to pay dividence.

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Speaker 2: Have we made this too political? I get you, you

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Speaker 2: know it's about health and you don't want to end

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Speaker 2: up leaving the health system. I get all of that,

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Speaker 2: But I mean most of this is how much personal

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Speaker 2: responsibility do we take on this. I's listened to Hipkins

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Speaker 2: in the House yesterday with this weird dodgy survey on

734
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Speaker 2: FASO in any of that crap anyway, the point being,

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Speaker 2: if you want to smoke, you're going to smoke. And

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Speaker 2: nothing that Hipkins or you were telling it is going

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Speaker 2: to change.

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Speaker 17: It, is it. I think you still got to because

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Speaker 17: of the level of palm smoke tobacco does. We've still

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Speaker 17: got to keep driving to build awareness. And yes, you

741
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Speaker 17: know people will make bad choices, but sometimes they make

742
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Speaker 17: bad choices through just you know, it's too hard. So

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Speaker 17: we've still got to keep leaning in to provide that support.

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Speaker 17: But absolutely we got too political. We saw the narrative

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Speaker 17: shifting that we were always about smoke free. Suddenly we've

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Speaker 17: got all of these other conflated issues being dragged into it.

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Speaker 17: And where we started being anti nicotine, well, we've been

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Speaker 17: doing nicotine replacements for decades. Nicotine wasn't the enemy. It

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Speaker 17: was the mechanism under which nicotine has delivered to you,

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Speaker 17: which is the issue. And that's what we've got to challenge.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Casey, appreciate it, Casey Costello, who's the Associate

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Speaker 2: Health Minister. Thirteen minutes past seven, I get went to

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Speaker 2: Doja cat last night. She was amazing. That's not me.

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Speaker 2: That's the text of Mike. I went Metallica. This is

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Speaker 2: I had to google how old these blokes are Kirk

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Speaker 2: the lead guitarist at a birthday yesterday. They're as good

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Speaker 2: as they were forty years ago. Show was nothing short

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Speaker 2: of amazing. Mike. You're going to get heaps of responses.

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Speaker 2: Metallica was awesome. Just over two hours of back to

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Speaker 2: back bangers. Average AGEB fifty five. I guess well worth

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Speaker 2: my four hundred and fifty dollars ticket took my two

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Speaker 2: sons up from Nelson worth every cent, Mike. Metallica was

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Speaker 2: epic on my way to work, But I am gen x. Mike,

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Speaker 2: you'd be wrong in thinking that. Went to Metallica last

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Speaker 2: night on a first date with someone who's not a

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Speaker 2: metal fan at all. We had a blast, cool fireworks,

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Speaker 2: fun crowd, great music. Of course more where that came from.

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Speaker 2: Shortly fourteen past the.

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Speaker 2: B get to the phone band data and schools in

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Speaker 2: just a couple of moments. Seems to be working, which

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Speaker 2: is good. Seventeen past seven Insight meantime into tourism. Our

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Speaker 2: cycle trails are working. These are the great rides. They're

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Speaker 2: pumping one point to eight billion. We find out this

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Speaker 2: morning Interregional News and visitors spending up thirty five percent

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Speaker 2: on five years ago. Janet Perty are interesting in the

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Speaker 2: international tourists make up seventeen percent of all trips now.

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Speaker 2: Janet Purty is the cycle Trails to you for executive

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Speaker 2: and is with this Janet Morning, I've cured a mic

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Speaker 2: not a criticism, but seventeen percent strikes me as a

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Speaker 2: small number. I would have thought there'd be more international

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Speaker 2: So it's all basically locals enjoying this.

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Speaker 17: Well.

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Speaker 18: Actually, when the borders were closed obviously we didn't have

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Speaker 18: any internationals coming in. So it's actually a big increase

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Speaker 18: from the last five years. And whilst it's seventeen percent,

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Speaker 18: it's actually a twenty eight percent of that one point

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Speaker 18: to eight billion, so they actually bring in even more money.

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Speaker 18: They spend about one thousand dollars more than our domestic visitors.

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Speaker 2: That's encouraging. So you will say, when I get you

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Speaker 2: back on in five years time, that number internationals will

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Speaker 2: go up because they are spenders, aren't They absolutely.

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Speaker 18: And you know, we're saying we're marketing into Australia, we're

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Speaker 18: marketing into the States. So our plan is to bring

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Speaker 18: a lot more internationals here to do.

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Speaker 17: Our cycle trails.

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Speaker 2: How do you market do your market cycling or do

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Speaker 2: you market the region or outback or adventure tourism.

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Speaker 18: We're actually specifically marketing the great right, but the regional

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Speaker 18: tourism organizations will be marketing come to a region and

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Speaker 18: we're looking at that as well. You know, come to

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Speaker 18: Central Otago is about five great rides there. It's a

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Speaker 18: really good place to face yourself and golf and have

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Speaker 18: these cycling adventures. So there's a lot of interest. The

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Speaker 18: global sort of market is estimated to be two hundred

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Speaker 18: and thirty four billion US dollars in twenty and thirty.

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Speaker 2: So you know we want a piece of that, of course,

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Speaker 2: you do. Good summer lined up, Janet, Oh fantastic.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm hoping to get out on a few trails

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Speaker 18: this summer.

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Speaker 12: Good on.

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Speaker 2: You're nice to talk to. You appreciate it, Janet Perting.

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Speaker 2: Who's the New Zealand Cycle Trails Chief executive? Mike Metallica

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Speaker 2: epic amazing crowd connecting over a shared love of heavy rock,

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Speaker 2: great settlist, the old boys still have it. Merchover price,

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Speaker 2: long whitees, well priced, great night, well worth it would

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Speaker 2: do it again. Mike Metallica was excellent last night, played

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Speaker 2: their great songs, put on a wonderful show and the

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Speaker 2: crowd was into it big time. Only problem was the

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Speaker 2: enormous traffic jam getting out of Auckland due to the

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Speaker 2: one lane at Bombay. Well, that's not a surprise. Mike

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Speaker 2: Cliff was okay, age is showing not being disrespectful. I

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Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoyed it. But the old microphone was a long

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Speaker 2: way from his mouth a few times, but we could

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Speaker 2: still hear him fine and the old ventriloquest moment if

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Between songs though, good bend

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Speaker 2: to history of his life and HiT's happy to laugh

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Speaker 2: at himself. A good night. A few of the elderly

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Speaker 2: crowd charged out of their seats to tell others to

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Speaker 2: sit down. Good entertainment. Mike went to see Bill Bailey.

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Speaker 2: God is everyone here? Is everyone here? At the moment?

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Speaker 2: Bill went to see Bill Bailey. Knew Plymouth last night

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Speaker 2: what a talented man laughed for two hours, was impressed.

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Speaker 2: A Doja cat Bill Bailey, Metallica, Priscilla Presley and Cliff Richard.

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Speaker 2: by two other Catholic schools, sort of a like there's

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Speaker 2: a quota of catholicness just to reinforce the catholicness of

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Speaker 2: it all. The article tells us it takes inspiration from

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Speaker 2: the church's secretive branch Opus Day, made famous by the

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Speaker 2: Da Vinci Code movie and book Who Secretive. It's not

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Speaker 2: until we're several paragraphs into this particular story that we

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Speaker 2: find out the actual reason for the school standing up

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Speaker 2: from the crowd. It offers the Cambridge system at primary level.

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Speaker 2: And it's well into the piece before we find out

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Speaker 2: the significance of that, and that is it's the only

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Speaker 2: primary school to offer Cambridge in the country. In other words,

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Speaker 2: it's a first at last we get there, they bury

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Speaker 2: the lead Cambridge if you don't know a sort after.

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Speaker 2: It's widely seen by many to be superior to what

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Speaker 2: is offered in standard schooling. That, my friends, is what

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Speaker 2: charter schools are supposed to be about. And yet you

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Speaker 2: don't read as much about that as you do about

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Speaker 2: the angst and opahs. Day choice seems to be a problem.

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Speaker 2: And the strangest thing about the whole debate is it

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Speaker 2: seems indisputable that the system so many appear desperate to

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Speaker 2: defend isn't actually that good. It's based on a one

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Speaker 2: size fits all model, and I think we can safely

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Speaker 2: say one size does not fit all. So how about

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Speaker 2: a bit of divergence, a bit of an alternative, a

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Speaker 2: different approach. Why is offering something a bit different, so weird,

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Speaker 2: so scary, so angst inducing, total a point off as

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Speaker 2: a curriculum that parents pay a fortune and private schooling

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Speaker 2: for the school will offer it for free. Here's a question,

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Speaker 2: what if it works, what are the kids learn better,

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Speaker 2: attend more, pass more, do more, walk out better off?

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Speaker 2: They're going to write about that or bury the success

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Speaker 2: because it doesn't suit their agenda. Fasci Mike went to

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Speaker 2: see Rob Thomas x mac is literally everyone here as

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Speaker 2: anyone not When to see Rob Thomas x match Box

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Speaker 2: twenty in Wellington. He was just as good as always.

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Speaker 2: Interacted with the crowd. Epic night, Everything's inn epic night.

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Speaker 2: Mike went to John Bishop, John Bishops here Metallica was

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Speaker 2: lip syncing. Were they? I don't think so. I don't

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Speaker 2: think hard rockets lip sync. Here's my problem with the

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Speaker 2: other road cones story this morning is the road cones story.

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Speaker 2: If you're missing it. Brook van Velden did the hot line.

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Speaker 2: They went out, few people looked at road cones. Only

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Speaker 2: seven point five percent of sites visited had a road

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Speaker 2: cone problem. Here's where I think it's gone wrong. Is

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Speaker 2: it our perception of road cones. So we look at

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Speaker 2: the road cones and go, oh, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: road cones, and then we make a big fuss about it.

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Speaker 2: So Brook opens a hot line when in reality, all

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Speaker 2: along even though you and I looked at the road

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Speaker 2: cones and went, that's ridiculous. They always complied with the law.

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Speaker 2: In other words, it's the law that's the problem. The

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Speaker 2: rules that drive the road cone layout via the problem,

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Speaker 2: not our perception of them. And so what they should

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Speaker 2: have done is change the rules and gone, you need

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Speaker 2: two cones and a ute in front of it and

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Speaker 2: get on with the job. That would be the mic

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Speaker 2: hosting rule for fixing the roads. Two cones, max ute

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Speaker 2: in front of it, get on with the job. Then

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't have had your hotline, and then you would

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Speaker 2: have had the problem. This morning, you see see how

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Speaker 2: much better it's going to be when I'm running the

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Speaker 2: country news for you.

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Speaker 1: Next credible, compelling the breakfast show you can't best. It's

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Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast were the defender Embrace the impossible news.

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Speaker 10: Togsa'd been shen sort of.

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Speaker 2: Developing news on the war that's going to go nowhere,

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Speaker 2: but I'll outline the details for you in just a

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Speaker 2: couple of moments. Twenty three minutes away from it looks

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Speaker 2: like the old cellphone band in schools is working. New

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Speaker 2: ro report tells us classroom learning is improved, Kids are

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Speaker 2: more sociable and we have a reduction in bullying compliance

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Speaker 2: though well less than forty percent apparently of the year

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Speaker 2: twelve thirteen's are handing them in. Ruth Sheanoda is the

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Speaker 2: head of the Ero Education Evaluation Center, and she's back, Well,

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Speaker 2: this is Ruth, good morning to you.

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Speaker 19: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So what are the numbers you've gotten in terms of

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Speaker 2: if they're not handing them in at years twelve and thirteen,

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Speaker 2: so are they doing it at nineteen and eleven for example?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely so if you said, really encouraging results so

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Speaker 19: far from their cell phone band which came in last year,

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Speaker 19: improved focus, improved achievement, reduced bad behavior, and reduction in bullying.

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Speaker 19: So two thirds and secondary leaders the same billiing's gone down.

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Speaker 19: But this is despite the fact that half the secondary

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Speaker 19: school students don't comply all the time. And the number

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Speaker 19: one reason they don't comply is actually to contact all

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Speaker 19: be contacted by their parents.

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Speaker 2: Right, and so are the rules around that if you

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Speaker 2: can a kid just say to a teacher, I'm not

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Speaker 2: giving you the phone, and that scene to their desert.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 19: So in primary school, what happens is they generally confiscate

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Speaker 19: them at the beginning of the day and then they

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Speaker 19: give them back at the end of the day. In

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Speaker 19: secondary schools they tell them to put them away the day,

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Speaker 19: but the way it phones away for the day is

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Speaker 19: in fact the requirement. Secondary school students are so sneaking

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Speaker 19: at break times, bathrooms, popping out, using them in other places,

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Speaker 19: and when they're caught. The number one reason they say

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Speaker 19: they're doing it is because they're contacted by or are

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Speaker 19: contacting their parents. And so we're saying to parents today

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Speaker 19: up and down the country, if your phone, if you

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Speaker 19: want to phone your child today in the school office,

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Speaker 19: if your child's phones you don't answer them at the

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Speaker 19: end of the day, tell them the phone is supposed

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Speaker 19: to be away, because we know that it makes a

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Speaker 19: difference to learning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also they're not ringing the parents, and the

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Speaker 2: parents aren't ringing them. You must understand that, ruth. That's

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Speaker 2: the first excuse they come up with. What they're doing

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Speaker 2: is gaming and texting and sitting on Instagram.

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Speaker 19: Actually it's a bit of a mixture. So we did

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Speaker 19: talk to parents and they did say they are contacting

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Speaker 19: their students. You know, things like if you've got this kid,

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Speaker 19: are you picking up here a third of parents actually

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Speaker 19: worry about not being able to contact their students through

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Speaker 19: the day. So we're saying it's an an am. Yes,

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Speaker 19: we need to make sure that we've got parents backing schools,

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Speaker 19: because we found if parents resist, students are twice as

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Speaker 19: likely to be breaking the rules. There's a really strong

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Speaker 19: relationship there. I'll tell you what works though, taking the

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Speaker 19: phone off kids, confiscating it, notifying the parents.

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Speaker 4: Schools that do that have.

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Speaker 19: Strong enforcements students compliance doubles good.

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Speaker 2: The results you're getting it is I take it observation also.

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Speaker 2: In other words, they're telling you they think that bullying

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Speaker 2: is down. There's nothing hard dataous about it. It's just

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Speaker 2: an observation. Is that fear.

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Speaker 19: So what we know is that teachers know really well

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Speaker 19: what's going on in their class. So we had ten

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Speaker 19: thousand teachers, leaders, students and parents and boards telling us

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Speaker 19: what's going on in schools. We also interviewed. We have

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Speaker 19: board assurance statements where they report to HERO and of

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Speaker 19: course Eero goes in and looks at schools. Everything is

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Speaker 19: reporting the same thing, and teachers both generally say billing

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Speaker 19: has gone down. If it hasn't, there's certainly not two

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Speaker 19: thirds of school leaders. So they're seeing a big shift,

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Speaker 19: and that's because you know what it's like. If they

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Speaker 19: can't take the phone out and clip people fighting, people

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Speaker 19: fight us. If they can't send each other aggressive texts

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Speaker 19: and messages in paths really reduces the billing. But you're

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Speaker 19: right when you said earlier that whilst getting rid of

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Speaker 19: cell phones is a great first step, we still have

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Speaker 19: got more to do good stuff.

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Speaker 12: Forth.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always. Ruth Shanada, who's the hit

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Speaker 2: of the Eero evaluation that's center at some twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: away from Itte asking business. This has been reported by

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Speaker 2: a number of people at the moment in the No

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration in Russia have been meeting behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes to draw up a plan. This is the latest

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Speaker 2: plan to end the war with Ukraine. Sweeping new proposal,

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Speaker 2: major concessions required from Kiev. They are urging Zilanz to

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Speaker 2: get this point to take it so it's still at

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Speaker 2: a framework stage. Apparently it has been conveyed to Keev

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Speaker 2: this week by Steve Whitkoff. Would amount to Ukraine giving

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Speaker 2: up sovereignty if Kiev accepted the plan, seed the remainder

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Speaker 2: of the eastern don Bass, including the land currently under

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Speaker 2: Keep's control, cut the size of its armed forces by half.

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Speaker 2: That's all I need to tell you, because obviously it's

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Speaker 2: not going anywhere. Nineteen to two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At be Mike Mattellica. Definitely a great night. I'm in

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Speaker 2: my mid twenties. Son and I went to Suicidal Tendencies

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Speaker 2: at the Power Station Tuesday night as well, and the

1033
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Speaker 2: whole family had tickets for Tool at Spark Arena this weekend.

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Speaker 2: What a great week That's fantastic. I was just talking

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Speaker 2: about the economic implications of all of this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: just in this morning's discussion, which has been brief, you've

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Speaker 2: got tens of thousands, if not close to a well

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Speaker 2: in excess of one hundred thousand people. If you go

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Speaker 2: back to Lenny Kravitz at the weekend, you take all

1040
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Speaker 2: the minor players like Bill Bailey and Bishop the comedian

1041
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Speaker 2: was there, and you talk about Cliff Richard several times over,

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00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: you've dealt with many, many, many, many many millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars into the economy, and well in excess of one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand people. Allegedly in the so called cost of

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00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: living crisis, which I don't think there is anymore. Some

1046
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Speaker 2: people struggle, of course, they do, always have, always will.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is we seem to get exercised

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00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 2: about butter when really we've got four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: dollars for a concert ticket. I mean, work it out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got four hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 2: for a concert ticket, you don't have problems with butter.

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Speaker 2: Do your Morning Mike read the rail project coming under budget?

1053
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Speaker 2: Why would you use air a sound clip stating the

1054
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Speaker 2: cost of canceling the contract should be included with Any

1055
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Speaker 2: decent person with financial now knows not to include a

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Speaker 2: sunk cost in an assessment. The news reporters mischievous. Yeah,

1057
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Speaker 2: there's no right and wrong. I mean, you're right, But

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Speaker 2: I mean this is the sort of myopic nonsense we

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Speaker 2: get into in this country. Unfortunately, what we got yesterday

1060
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Speaker 2: on the Fairies was a problem solved. Now, if you

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Speaker 2: want to spend some time going back and forward about

1062
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Speaker 2: what got spent and what didn't got spent, and what

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Speaker 2: got canceled and what the break free was, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you want to waste your time doing that. I

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Speaker 2: suppose you can do it, but others are moving on.

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Speaker 2: We have two ships. They are bigger ships than the

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Speaker 2: one we have currently. They will be delivered in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty nine. They will be paid for with a great

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Speaker 2: deal less money than was going to be paid for

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Speaker 2: under the IRAX project. That's about all we need to know.

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Speaker 2: Is the problem solved?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Do we have ships?

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Speaker 20: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are they better than what we've got yes? Did we

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Speaker 2: save money in the process, yes. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: else you need to spend your time on. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if you want to watch a video why Superior Speed

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Speaker 2: isn't selling EVS, it's in CNBC. It's well worth watching

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Speaker 2: because initially were sold on the idea that you have

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00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: all this instant talk and you could have a battery.

1082
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: And they went really fast and even though they didn't

1083
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: go broombroom, it's quite exciting. This is on the morning.

1084
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: By the way, that Portion internationally have globally launched their

1085
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: kN which is what I would call mid size. I

1086
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: think they call it a large suv. Anyway, it's fully

1087
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 2: electric and it's their first electric k in. It comes

1088
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: in at one thousand, one hundred break horse power. It's

1089
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: just absurd. I mean, no one will ever use one thousand,

1090
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 2: one hundred break horsepower. And in that is one of

1091
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: the many, many, many, many many problems with evs. By

1092
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: the way, in Wonderlust magazine, I don't know if you

1093
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: subscribe to it, but I do. Wonderlust Magazine twenty two categories,

1094
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: four point eight million votes. It's UK based magazine. We

1095
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: are moderately desirable. As it turns out, we're the eighth

1096
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: most desirable country in the world. This is tourism again,

1097
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: going back to the cycle trails and stuff like that.

1098
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Twenty two different categories in this, but we're the eighth

1099
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: most desirable country in the world. One a series is

1100
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 2: the most city where the third most desirable for adventure

1101
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: to destination. Got to tell you about Murray. Murray's a

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00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: mate of one of our son. Murray's from Scotland, and

1103
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: so Murray's here on holiday at the moment, and there

1104
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: was some consternation within family circles around Murray's adventure into

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00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 2: New Zealand. So Murray he rang us the other day,

1106
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: Old Josh and he said, Murray's coming out to New Zealand,

1107
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 2: and we went, oh God, this is the right time

1108
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: of year. What's he doing out here in New Zealand.

1109
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: And it wasn't explained to us what Murray was here for.

1110
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: But it turns out Murray as a tourist from Scotland,

1111
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: never been to New Zealand before, came through Australia into

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00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: New Zealand. He is extending his time. He's having the

1113
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: greatest time of his life. And what wasn't told to

1114
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: us was Murray is an adventure tourist and so he's

1115
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 2: come to New Zealand and he's jumped off everything, he's

1116
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: ridden on everything that goes fast. Yesterday I think he

1117
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: was in Rotorua, going down the hill in the Zorb

1118
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: and he just cannot believe the cool stuff you can

1119
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 2: do in New Zealand that involves putting your life at risk,

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00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: and he just thinks it's the greatest thing ever. Weather's

1121
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: been shite, but he's from Scotland, so you know it's

1122
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: probably an improvement. So he's come at the wrong time

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00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: of the year. He's trading in his forty two p

1124
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 2: to get a New Zealand dollar. He cannot believe how

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00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 2: far his money's going. He cannot believe how high up

1126
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: in the air, you can go on a plane to

1127
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: leap out of it. And he is just he is

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Speaker 2: a poster child for New Zealand.

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Speaker 19: There's a lot of stuff you can do here that

1130
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 19: we won't even charge him to put his life at resk.

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But he is having the best time. So

1132
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: we were initially worried thinking on jeez, I don't know

1133
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: about tourism in New Zealand these days, but he is

1134
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: going to go back to Scotland and he's going to go. Oh,

1135
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: you should have seen what I did in New Zealand,

1136
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 2: and good on him. So if Murray's listening, I'm glad

1137
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: you're having a good time. Ten minutes away from.

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00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: It the make Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate newstalg

1139
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: zib it.

1140
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Is even as away from a to AI is arriving

1141
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: at your ed department. We got a new AI scribe

1142
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: from Heidi Health that's been rolled out in nationwide, so

1143
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: pilots and Hawks Bay saw clinicians see one extra patient

1144
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: per shift. They save seventeen minutes on average, and they

1145
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 2: cut down ADMIN work by eighty one percent. Now Being

1146
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: condent doctor Being Content is a clinical director at Heidi

1147
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: health and as with.

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Speaker 10: Us Bend Morning Morning, Mike, thanks for having me on.

1149
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 2: Not at all is Heidi Health's just one of a

1150
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: number of AI tools out there. If you're looking for AI.

1151
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 12: Tools, there are certainly a number of scribes out in

1152
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 12: the market, but where one of them and growing quickly,

1153
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 12: which is really exciting.

1154
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: So the magic is the magic at eighty one percent

1155
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: cut and admin, is that as good as it gets?

1156
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: Or might you cut Edmond out completely and you just

1157
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: talk and AI does it all for you.

1158
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 12: At the moment, that's pretty good. We're hoping to improve

1159
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 12: it slightly with a broader roll out, but certainly in

1160
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 12: time we're hopeful that we can remove ADMIN completely from

1161
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 12: doctor's day and just allow them to focus on treating

1162
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 12: their patents.

1163
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: And just to be clear, seeing a lot of people

1164
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: don't quite get the head around AI. At the most

1165
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 2: I get at the doctor when I go to the GP,

1166
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 2: they're just talking. It's all being transcribed, and then two

1167
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: minutes later you get a complete print out of what

1168
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: you've just discussed.

1169
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 12: As that is that's correct. So creating a written transcript

1170
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 12: and then using some templates that your doctor can set up,

1171
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 12: it can create not just a medical note, but also

1172
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 12: you discharge summary, you refer a letter and any other

1173
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 12: note that you need at the click of a button.

1174
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: What are the legals around it in terms of if

1175
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: something goes wrong I said this, No you didn't, Yes,

1176
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: I did, and there it is. You know, are you

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: one hundred percent certain that what has taken down and

1178
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: transcribed through AI is accurate.

1179
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 12: It's really important for everyone to know that the doctor

1180
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 12: is still responsible for the note, So the time saving

1181
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 12: comes from them having a note ready to review in

1182
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 12: real time. What happens at the moment is doctors often

1183
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 12: save all they're not taking until the end of a

1184
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 12: clinical end of a shift, so they're making a note

1185
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 12: hours later, which can also be fought with errors. So

1186
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 12: really we're hoping that they're able to save as much

1187
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 12: time but still can have confidence in the accuracy of

1188
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 12: the document because they're reviewing it in real time.

1189
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: Are you health specific? In other words, why wouldn't the

1190
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: cops roll us out when they're interviewing somebody.

1191
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 12: So Heidi is trained on clinical language, So any kind

1192
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 12: of person with a clinical background, not just doctors, but nurses, physios.

1193
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 12: We've had vets use US as well. They can use Heidi,

1194
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 12: but certainly we have non clinical people using it for

1195
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 12: things like taking meeting minutes as well.

1196
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: What's your take on this as a thing in changing

1197
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: the world and changing our lives. Are you sort of

1198
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: fully bullish on AI and this is transformational or we're

1199
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 2: still discovering what it will be.

1200
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 12: I'm really bullish, particularly in this use case. I think

1201
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 12: we've seen across the world doctors, nurses being burnt out

1202
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 12: working harder than ever before. But as our populations get

1203
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 12: older and more sick, So any relief we can give

1204
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 12: our clinical staff and make their work a little bit easier,

1205
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 12: but also give them more time to do what they

1206
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 12: want to do, which is see and treat patients I

1207
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 12: think is going to be a real game changer for

1208
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 12: the health system.

1209
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: Good stuff. I appreciate it very much. Doctor Ben Condon,

1210
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 2: who's a clinical director at Highly Healthy's up early for

1211
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: us in Australia. It's not that early. I mean it's

1212
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: five minutes away from six asking Yeah, well done, Glenn.

1213
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: I was just waiting for that now. The landmark federal

1214
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: rule in court ruling in Australia employers must request, not

1215
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: require staff to work public holidays. So this came out

1216
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: of BHP. They got fined. They said, to people who

1217
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: didn't want work Christmas Day, you got to work Christmas Day.

1218
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. They took them to court.

1219
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: The judge cited a quote inherent power in balance. So

1220
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: they paid one hundred thousand dollars fifteen thousand dollars in

1221
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: fines eighty three thousand dollars in compay to eighty five

1222
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: different workers failed to consult them before rostering them for

1223
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: Christmas Day. This was back in twenty nineteen, so once

1224
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: again a very good example of the wheels of justice

1225
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 2: moving very slowly. Just as Darryl Rangier. I don't know

1226
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: whether this gets appealed or not, but it's a precedent

1227
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: setting idea that you can no longer go by the

1228
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: way of rosterdu on Christmas Day. You must request and

1229
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm assuming as part of that request they've got the

1230
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: right to say no, thank you. And there is no

1231
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: specific comeback page. TAPA now page came in in twenty

1232
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: twenty one and she sang as a song and we

1233
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: had a chat, and ever since then she's gone on

1234
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: to big and wonderful things. And that makes it sounds

1235
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: like because she came into this program, things happened for her,

1236
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: which is not what I was trying to say at all.

1237
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: That just happens. In the ensuing period of time, big

1238
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: and wonderful things have happened to her. She's got a

1239
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: new EP coming. One of the songs she's going to

1240
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: be playing for us, so we will have a classic

1241
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking song and a chat with Page after the news,

1242
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: which is next. He refused, talk set being.

1243
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the Mike Hosking breakfast with

1244
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: Bailey's real estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy

1245
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: three News Talk said.

1246
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 16: You wanted last flights, I wanted my lights. If you

1247
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 16: wanted deaf friend things, he wanted my spocks. Another long

1248
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 16: tucks that wasn't harding.

1249
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: It is seven minutes past eight, five years after the

1250
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: debut EP came out. Page Tartara's music has but while

1251
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: it's taken all around the world, we first first caught

1252
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: up with her in twenty twenty one. Since then there

1253
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: have been three studio projects. She's a big deal these

1254
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: days in Korea. Debut EP always growing, that's gone platinum.

1255
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: She's actually just come back from South Korea, having performed

1256
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: her first ever Asia headline show in Seoul. Her new

1257
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: p EP which was out Friday. Page's Space, which I

1258
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: quite like. Nice to see you.

1259
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 21: Good to see it.

1260
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 2: Pages space as your handle on socials on social media. Yeah,

1261
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: so it sounds good. I watched your video yesterday. You're

1262
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: in Japan. I'll get to Korea in just a moment.

1263
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: Do you like Japan?

1264
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 21: I love Japan. Have you been to Japan?

1265
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: I have been to And do you like it? I

1266
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: love it.

1267
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 21: I can't imagine people not liking it.

1268
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: It's a very good way of putting it. People are polite,

1269
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: it's well organized, It's buzzy and vibey in terms of

1270
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: people in size and all that sort of stuff. I

1271
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: just adore.

1272
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think because there's so many people that have

1273
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 21: to be mindful of each other, and I really love that.

1274
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 21: But then Korea has a lot of people, but they

1275
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 21: don't have that same.

1276
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: No, you know, you've got hot in Korea? What's going

1277
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: on here?

1278
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 21: Because I'm Mowson. No, I don't know, because I'm great

1279
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 21: mic No, I don't know.

1280
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 9: I think like.

1281
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

1282
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 21: Music that wasn't K pop was popular in Korea.

1283
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 22: That's a bit naive with me, but I've noticed that

1284
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 22: they like a bit of pop with a hint of

1285
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 22: soul slash R and B, like neo soul, and I

1286
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 22: guess because my music is that it kind of works

1287
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 22: over there. But online there were some people that covered

1288
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 22: one of my songs too Much to Hate, like five

1289
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 22: years ago, and then it kind of just started moving

1290
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 22: and then you know, just tried to light the spark

1291
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 22: and how was.

1292
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: The show and the headline act? And you're loving it?

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Speaker 2: They loving you?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 22: I think it's so hard when you're so far away

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Speaker 22: and you don't know if people are going to show

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Speaker 22: up or whatever. Because streaming numbers, you know, you can

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Speaker 22: do streaming numbers, but that doesn't necessarily translate to life.

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Speaker 21: No, but it was cool that people came.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, been tattoo, so you'll be back?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, I really want to go back.

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: How just taught me through the journey since you were

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Speaker 2: here in twenty twenty one, So the last four years,

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Speaker 2: how's it been clearly successful? Pleas are going?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean it's been.

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Speaker 22: I mean, being an artist is rewarding, but it's also

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Speaker 22: there's moments where it's soul crushing as well. I think

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Speaker 22: going to Asia, because I went to Asia in twenty

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Speaker 22: twenty three as well. I think that felt really validating

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Speaker 22: to me, kind of being like, oh, people really like

1313
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 22: the music. That's great, Like you know, there's something it

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Speaker 22: feels like it's.

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Speaker 21: Worth it.

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Speaker 20: Good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And creatively speaking, are you changing in the last

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Speaker 2: four years the way you write before? The type of music?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I think yeah. I think with

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Speaker 21: life experience and growing.

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 22: I guess my first EP Always Growing was about kind

1322
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 22: of my early to late teen years, and now I'm

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 22: near like I'm heading towards thirty, so I'm kind of

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Speaker 22: experiencing more real life stuff.

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Speaker 21: So I think that's really affected the songwriting. Stylistically, I

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Speaker 21: think I've stayed the same. I'd like to explore more

1327
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 21: R and B type sounds. Yeah, so it's kind of

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Speaker 21: what I'm heading towards.

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Speaker 2: How does that work? Creatively speaking, You're allowed to do

1330
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to do in terms of record labels

1331
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: and pressure and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 12: You just be you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I get like I get a lot of support

1335
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 22: in terms of I think they kind of help ground me.

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01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 22: They kind of I'm quite chaotic. So I think about

1337
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 22: I want to do a million genres in one album,

1338
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 22: which is what I did in my album that came

1339
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 22: out in twenty twenty three. And they were kind of like,

1340
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 22: you don't need to do that, you know, And I

1341
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 22: was like, yeah, ye're true. Like they kind of helped

1342
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 22: me put things into perspective a little bit.

1343
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: Because the difficulty from their point of view is because

1344
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: you don't strike me as person's got a huge ego.

1345
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: So but you know, well a lot of people, you

1346
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: know in the music industry got an ego, and you

1347
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: got to treat carefully. You don't want to say something

1348
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: that creatively is going to send them off into a

1349
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: mad fury, do you. But it's good. It's good to

1350
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: get a bit of advice. The Jonas Brothers thing, I

1351
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: can't get my head around. So so you performed with them, right?

1352
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 23: Yeah?

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: So how did that come about?

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 21: I I was just I bought tickets.

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01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 22: The day that I bought tickets, I was like, oh man,

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 22: I would love to sing with them, just because I've

1357
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 22: I'm a big camp rock Disney Channel girl.

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Speaker 9: Yees.

1359
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 22: So I started posting online being like I want to

1360
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 22: sing with the Jonahs brother is like, here's me singing

1361
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 22: my song, and I didn't think that.

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 21: They would see it. The first video they saw.

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01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 22: They commented, but they didn't really give me anything, and

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01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 22: I was like, Okay, I'll keep trying because it was

1365
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 22: quite fun.

1366
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 21: It was fun for everyone to watch that little segment.

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: Because, by way, background, that's sort of how you started,

1368
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: wasn't it. You used to do covers and stick them

1369
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: out on social media?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, and I'd done a lot of Jonas brothers

1372
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 22: stuff before that, so it felt like a bit of

1373
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 22: a oh, let me just see what happens kind of thing.

1374
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 22: And I think also it's good training, like mental wires,

1375
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 22: because as an artist it's so hard to put yourself

1376
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 22: out there online and potentially embarrass yourself. So it felt

1377
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 22: like good practice.

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01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. But anyway, but next thing, you know, you're standing

1379
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: there with them.

1380
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 21: Yeah, and how good?

1381
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: Well was it everything you wanted and thought it was?

1382
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 22: I think like doing music, I'm like, I just want

1383
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 22: to do it because it's so fun. And that was

1384
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 22: something where I was like, you know, why not just

1385
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 22: go all in and just.

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: I reckon that's an age thing. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah,

1387
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: I think that because we all wanted to sing with

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: our musical heroes. Yeah, yeah, But one, you've got the

1389
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: social media, so you've got the access to be able

1390
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: to do it until you come or you've grown up

1391
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 2: in an age where I think, you, what the hell,

1392
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: why wouldn't I do it? Whereas once upon a time,

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: look you, no one would think of doing that.

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 16: So good on you.

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: So it's a winner. What are you going to play

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 2: for us after the break?

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01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 21: I'm going to play a song that I put out

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 21: last Friday, Why do We Want to be in Love?

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: It's barely old. It's a couple of days old. More

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: from page is it Paige still or page tops? It

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: was just we're just.

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Speaker 21: Page Whatever you want, Mike, it's up to you.

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: More from page shortly thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio,

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Speaker 1: Power by News Talks.

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: News Talks seventeen past eight. Page is our guest Page

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Speaker 2: of Space was out on Friday. This is the new EP.

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Speaker 15: This is this?

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Speaker 12: This?

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Speaker 2: Do you call it a single anymore?

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Speaker 22: It's just well it's all singles. They okay, out of

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Speaker 22: singles and then it's like, oh, let's.

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Speaker 6: Call it any pain?

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 20: So yeah, hit me with it.

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 21: This is why do we want to be in love?

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 6: Trying to be patient in my heart?

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01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 16: It fools a little more logic, call it it be fun?

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Speaker 6: This isn't this?

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 16: They flowers and this the good feelings on all? Please

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 16: recippricated your love?

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 6: Kai the socks. It hits you, then it runs. So

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Speaker 6: why why do you wanna be? Wanna be? Met him?

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Speaker 24: We had some love, had soda poppins, so is up

1424
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 24: in the west, apartments so hot that we'd have to

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Speaker 24: block it with old tee shirts and cuts the carpet loved.

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Speaker 6: You too, them mounting them back again.

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Speaker 24: You l even me.

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Speaker 16: It wasn't part of the plan. I guess love Ki

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Speaker 16: the sucks. It hits you, then it runs. Yeah, So Whitely,

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Speaker 16: why a lie?

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Speaker 6: You wanna be? Wanna be him?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not that fun. It hits you like a bis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So why do you why dowiek you wanna be? Wanna

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Speaker 6: be him? Lone say?

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Speaker 16: Love is patient? It's just complicated, feel so updated?

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Speaker 6: No good to me? Yay, I don't want to be

1439
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 6: I don't wanna be in love?

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Speaker 16: Left and empty spaces, all pollinated, no sign of life too.

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Speaker 6: Come rescue me? Yeah, why do we wanna be? Why thee?

1442
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 6: Why do we wanna be? Wanna be in?

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful?

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It was good on the video too. I think it's

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01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 2: a bit of here, so we recorded that once it

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: could be smash it twice over. Yeah, please go listen.

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Speaker 2: You have a lovely holiday season, Christmas and all that

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Speaker 2: of you, g Mike. That girl can sing. What a

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Speaker 2: lovely voice and she shears a lightful woman as well.

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Speaker 2: You always enjoy having young tellor. I was just saying

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Speaker 2: off here, she's one of those, but you know some people.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, Ah, what's the Missy Higgins. She was

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Speaker 2: at the Ari's yesterday and was looking at a picture

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Speaker 2: of her this morning. Missy Higgins would go down as

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Speaker 2: probably one of the bigger pains in the asses on

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Speaker 2: this program over the years in terms of coming in

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Speaker 2: and demanding things and bringing people and things with them,

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Speaker 2: and you just think, honestly, it's just a chat and

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Speaker 2: a song. Calm down, anyway, someone like Page comes in,

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Speaker 2: she rocks them with a guitar, nice orangewood guitar. Have

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Speaker 2: you ever heard of orange Wood? I've never heard of

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Speaker 2: you some guitars. So she got an orange Wood deal.

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Speaker 2: It's a lovely it's a little have a look at

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01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 2: the video when we put it up. It's what I

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Speaker 2: would call a three quarter sized guitar, and it's a

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Speaker 2: lovely little guitar, beautiful wood, and she plays it just

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Speaker 2: a natural, just comes in, chats, sings a song. And

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Speaker 2: I love people like that. Mike went out to dinner

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Speaker 2: at christ which is terrorist last night. Duffy was the

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Speaker 2: other one. You remember when Duffy came in, she was

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Speaker 2: a bit intense, And I thought at the time, when

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Speaker 2: Duffy came in, I thought she was because she was

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Speaker 2: going to be like the big deal for a while there.

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Speaker 2: Duffy was going to be like next level and then

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Speaker 2: she just sort of she disappeared. There's a story behind

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Speaker 2: why she disappeared, of course, and she sort of partially

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Speaker 2: explained that. But she was another one. And then I

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Speaker 2: came to the conclusion that it's British artists. British artists

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Speaker 2: in general have too many hangers on and they caused

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Speaker 2: too many problems.

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Speaker 19: But John Mayo when he broke the string and then

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Speaker 19: wouldn't play, Yeah, break the string, warming up the guitar,

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Speaker 19: and it's like, you're like the best guitarist in the world.

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Speaker 2: Exactly can you restring the guitar? Exactly? I offered to

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Speaker 2: do it for him, did you. Yeah, Well, that's probably

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Speaker 2: why I didn't play. Lynn, that's your fight. I didn't

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: realize all these years later it was actually your fault.

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Speaker 2: He said. At the end of the interview, goes, we're

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01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 2: going to see each other again. I know we will,

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Speaker 2: And I thought, what have I mate? Honestly have you no?

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course I happened. George Israel was another one.

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Speaker 2: He came in with his guitar and a hanger. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how many he have that? Eight hundred eight hundred hangers on?

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: My moon boohoop is my moon? And you know, all

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Speaker 2: the hangers on standing outside through the double glazing, tapping

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Speaker 2: their feet, nodding their here goes, it's beautiful, George, George,

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: you're wonderful, George. Don't talk to George. George's finished. It's

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01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: all going to be in the book. We were going

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01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: to get any of these people back in, I'd bring you.

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Speaker 2: If Mayo rang up and apologized, I'd let him back.

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01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: If he said, sorry, sorry about the string, sorry about

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01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: the comment, I'll come back in, I'd let him back.

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Speaker 2: Israe's okay. Israel just had hangers on. He was a

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: nice guy, he was a cool guy. He was a

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: cool guy, but just just tainted by the hangers.

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Speaker 10: Maybe that's why he had so many hangers on.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's cool. Is that why we don't any hangers on?

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: Because we're not cool, So we thought of each other's

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 2: hangers on out where we are. We just hang on

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Speaker 2: with each other. That sound weird. Probably sounded but weird,

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: didn't it. Fortunately the news is coming up next to

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 2: save us all, and then we'll go to Britain and

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Speaker 2: rod here on the my asking.

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Speaker 1: Cheers opinion edit, Informed und apologetic. The Mike Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Veda retirement, communities, life your Way, news talks head be.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mike, I thought I'd died gone to heaven listening

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Speaker 2: to Paige celestial voice, delightful personality with the Chrisoge. We

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Speaker 2: got some We got some fans. This morning, twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: Business, we go on a little morning to you and

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Speaker 12: my friend, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Just as watching PMQ's and this budget, tell you what.

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01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: By the time we get to the budget, it's either

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Speaker 2: going to be the greatest calamity in the history of

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 2: modern politics or a complete fizzer. And I can't work

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Speaker 2: out what it was. But as watching PMQ's and and

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01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: Stamer was busy trying to defend him, the suggestion being

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Speaker 2: that this guy Clive Lewis can swappers seat out with

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Speaker 2: Andy Burnham. Tell me I'm not correct and saying you

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01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 2: can't just do that. In a modern political system, you

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 2: don't swap seats. You'd actually need to be elected.

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Speaker 20: You do have to be elected. Yes, he can't do that.

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01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 20: I think mister Lewis is mentally challenged. Yes, having followed

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 20: his career with some interest over the last ten years.

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Speaker 20: He is, you know, I mean, to the left of

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Speaker 20: Jeremy Corbyn in many respects, and I can't see actually

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01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 20: that much of a called app between him and Andy Burnham.

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Speaker 20: But what it is, Mike, is more evidence of incredible

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01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 20: dissatisfaction on the backbenches of the Labor Party. Fronder kind

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 20: of unholy alliance which has grown up between the soft left,

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01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 20: of which Andy Burnham is a part, the hard left,

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 20: of which Clive Lewis is apart, and the Blair Rights,

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 20: of which I suppose Lucy Powell is kind of a part.

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 20: So he has got all these people against him. It

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01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 20: only takes seventy or eighty I forget the exact to

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 20: trigger yeah, it's eighty, yeah, to trigger a leadership election.

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Speaker 20: I don't have much doubt that that will be coming.

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Speaker 20: It remains to be seen who the stalking horse will be,

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01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 20: you know, at a guess someone like Rosy Duffield maybe,

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 20: who let the Labor Party whip a year ago because

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 20: she was so distressed by the way which Secia Starmer

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Speaker 20: was handling business.

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Speaker 2: Well, so if they've got the eighty and they mount

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01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: a challenge, that's different from having the numbers to roll them.

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Speaker 2: Do they have the numbers or would they you know,

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01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: would they have enough numbers to put the frighteners up them?

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Speaker 20: Depends how the budget goes down. And if one assumes,

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Speaker 20: as Anne, I think your first analysis was correct that

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 20: it's going to be the worst budget in the history

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Speaker 20: of budget, then yes, I think they do have the numbers.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, how what happens then? You know what happens then

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01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: is that well, he's wounded fatally, you might argue, But

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Speaker 3: who does it leave open to take over? And you

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01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 3: know west Streeting is obviously one of the one of

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Speaker 3: the people in the running for it, and the most likely,

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Speaker 3: I suppose, But the left wouldn't like.

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Speaker 20: Him very much. Eider shabarnament mood they would hate even more,

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Speaker 20: though she would be popular with the public. And the

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Speaker 20: man who actually could do something quite good for them

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Speaker 20: is Andy Burnham, but he has no prospect of getting

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Speaker 20: a seat other than this strange swap with Clive Lewis.

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Speaker 2: These factions you talk of within the Labor Party, would

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Speaker 2: they be as omnipresent if the Labor Party hadn't won

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: so spectacularly and had such a large caucus.

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Speaker 20: That's a great question. That is a great question, do

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Speaker 20: you know. I think that if Labor had been elected

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Speaker 20: with a majority of about fifty that it would have

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 20: been a lot easier for k Suki Stama to run

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Speaker 20: the country, a lot lot easier. But instead he's got

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Speaker 20: a majority of you know, one hundred and seventy, and

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Speaker 20: a large proportion of those are new people to politics

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Speaker 20: who have got wafer thin maturities and therefore nothing to lose.

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Speaker 2: He can't in a funny way. We've talked about it

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Speaker 2: so much. I can't wait for next week's budget because

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Speaker 2: I'm just intrigued. Beyond measure is too. If she's not

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Speaker 2: going to do Texas, how does she fill the hole?

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Speaker 2: If she doesn't fill the whole, how does she explain it?

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Speaker 2: How does the market react to the bond yields, the

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Speaker 2: interest rates, the economy all? It's sort of all to

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Speaker 2: play for, isn't it?

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Speaker 17: It is?

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 20: I don't know what she's going to do, you know,

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Speaker 20: I've tried to. It looks to me as if the

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Speaker 20: working class person I Labour's call vote is going to

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Speaker 20: be the hardest hit by this fiscal drag of not

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Speaker 20: raising the amount which puts you into each tax band,

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Speaker 20: So that will hit the most aspirational labor voters and

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Speaker 20: that will be a huge problem for them electorally. Other

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01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 20: stuff mansioned tax, you know, maybe a change to stamp duty.

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Speaker 20: I can't see it, you know, shifting the counter one

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Speaker 20: way or the other. But it all depends if she

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Speaker 20: has anything more up a sleeve on tax.

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Speaker 2: What is the worst problem the budget or the asylum seekers?

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Speaker 20: The budget the butget the asylum seekers are bad. But

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01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 20: at least Labor is based in the knowledge that the

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01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 20: Tories did no better and they do have shabarnament mood

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Speaker 20: who seems to be doing something. So the budget is

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Speaker 20: by far and away the biggest issue for them, can.

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Speaker 2: You explained to me? And I was reading a piece yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So in Australia they've got this deal, this Nauru deal,

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Speaker 2: And there's an argument in Australia at the moment as

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Speaker 2: to whether they ever released the details or contents of

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Speaker 2: the contract. It's a two and a half billion dollar contract.

1647
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Speaker 2: It lasts for thirty years. There are some people in

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Speaker 2: Australia that were banged up in jail. The judges you

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: can't bang these people and jailer got to let them

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Speaker 2: out now. They're all rapists and murderers and stuff, and

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01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: so they've done a deal with our rudership them off right.

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: Can you explain to me how they can do that

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Speaker 2: deal in Australia and get away with it? And yet

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: what is the law or the problem in Britain that

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Speaker 2: stops you from doing exactly the same thing with another country?

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Speaker 20: The European Convention on Human Rights technically and the judges

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Speaker 20: therefore who abide by that dictum is the thing which

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 20: would stop us doing that. But he would beyond the

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01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 20: chr We have such sticklers for the legal niceties that

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Speaker 20: he would just never get through.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just quickly, while I've got you those lasers from

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Speaker 2: the Russian ships and the Chinese spying this in the

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Speaker 2: last twenty four to forty eight hours. Is that people

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 2: worried about it any more than they have been previously

1665
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 20: They're not as worried about it as perhaps they should be.

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Speaker 20: Nor still yet from the report from the Defense Select Committee,

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Speaker 20: that we are nowhere near a fighting strength to take

1669
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 20: on any enemy that might wister, harry, or invade us.

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01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 20: We are woefully out of step militarily, and I don't

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Speaker 20: think we have the remotest idea of how to grapple

1672
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Speaker 20: with Chinese subter fuse.

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Speaker 2: All right, Rob, good to talk to you. I'll see

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Speaker 2: you next week. Appreciate it. So that was Dan Jervis,

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Speaker 2: yesterday's security minister telling us about em I five and

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Speaker 2: the warnings over the Chinese and this morning Russian spyship

1677
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: on the edge of UK waters using the lasers and

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01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: the government was taken quite quite deeply dangerous move, extremely seriously,

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01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: so I don't know what that means. And the other

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Speaker 2: just quickly out of Europe. If you follow this, and

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Speaker 2: it's an interesting story. This goes back to the next period.

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Speaker 2: Next Peria is the Chinese company in Holland. They make

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01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: the chips, the bits and pieces for cars the car industry.

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: The Dutch government grab them, big scrap between America, China

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Speaker 2: and the Dutch government. The Dutch government has now released

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Speaker 2: that company from their control. They're back making the chips.

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Speaker 2: That particular problem seems to for now to have been sold.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 15: At B.

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Speaker 2: Just a reference to that Naru deal yesterday was making

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01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 2: news because two and a half billion dollars. So the

1693
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 2: government said officially it's not going to release the details

1694
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: of this deal with NARU. This is the Home Affairs

1695
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: Minister Tony Burke blame the Liberal Party for stoking discord

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01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: over immigration, which of course is complete crap. People just

1697
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 2: want to know what they've signed up for, because, of

1698
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: course the argument at the moment is the two and

1699
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: a half billion dollars, good chunks of it are going

1700
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: to gang members and all sorts of nefarious operators in

1701
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: NARU who are gerrymandering the system and taking money for themselves.

1702
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: So Australian taxpayers quite rightly want to know that the

1703
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: whole system isn't a stitch up. It's a thirty year deal.

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01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: And so unless they're challenged in court, which maybe they

1705
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 2: will be, they're not releasing the contents of the contract,

1706
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: which I thought is an interesting approach to take. I

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: was just thinking about Britain. I was watching a thing

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Speaker 2: yesterday Hannah Ricketts is worth having a look at. Hannah Ricketts.

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Speaker 2: Every Saturday morning in New Zealand, Time releases a video

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01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: of a hotel that she's reviewed in London, and I

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01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: like watching those hotels. Just you know, next time you're

1712
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: in London, you go, geez, I want to where I

1713
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: should stay? Well, you know, that's the sort of thing

1714
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: you look at, and she does. Anyway, The point is

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Speaker 2: she has also just started doing Christmas videos, and nobody

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01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: does Christmas like the British, and they just go nuts

1717
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: for Christmas. Who're talking to a couple of friends the

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Speaker 2: other day and they're in London for the first time

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01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: and the lights are on and the streets are festooned

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01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: with festivity and Christmas chair and they just absolutely love it. Anyway,

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01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: she did a video of Selfridges, which is my favorite

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01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: department store in the whole world, and they have a

1723
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: as you can imagine, just probably the greatest Christmas shop

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: on earth. And she went in there and looked at

1725
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: all the decorations and the trees and the things you

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: can buy, and we just don't do Christmas the way

1727
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: they do. Anyway, just so I was full of the

1728
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: joys of Christmas. But then she looked at the individual

1729
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: these are little trinkets and stuff for your Christmas tree,

1730
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: and this is where your dollar comes in, your forty

1731
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 2: two cents, forty two p's. She picked up just the

1732
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: just the bog awful little standard trinkets for your Christmas tree,

1733
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: and they're ten pounds and that's twenty five dollars. And

1734
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: then the next one was fourteen pounds and that's like

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01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 2: thirty three dollars. And she bought she saw a little

1736
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 2: away in a manger type set up that was six

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01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: hundred pounds, which is like fifteen sixteen hundred dollars. And

1738
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: you're thinking, I can't afford Christmas anymore. And nothing in

1739
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: that shop, I know it Selfridges, but nothing in that shop.

1740
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: If your shopping in New Zealand dollars was even close

1741
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: to being affordable. Hence your Christmas is ruined. So I

1742
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: came away actually quite depressed. Nine away from nine.

1743
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: With the mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender and us

1744
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Tom Dead b No.

1745
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 2: You've heard the ad featuring Neville in the Bay of Plenty,

1746
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: and this one, this one shows the real difference that

1747
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 2: resonate health can make. So he was he had this competitor, right,

1748
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: competitor told them you can't wear your hearing aids on

1749
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: your motorbike, and you shouldn't wear them mowing the lawn.

1750
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: That's what he was told. So and Nebel thought, well,

1751
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: hold on, he how am I supposed to wear these

1752
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: things at all? So he returned them, and then he

1753
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: saw an ad for Resonate Health and he went and

1754
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: dealt with them. And because they're good at what they do,

1755
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: he hasn't looked back, because Resonate Health actually listened. So

1756
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: if he has any issues, he just jumps on his bike.

1757
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 2: He rides on over. They sort it out on the spot,

1758
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: and Nebel says, it's absolutely brilliant nagging and hearers da

1759
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: catti properly. Again, He's lucky man on never's got a

1760
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: da catti. Anyway, if you ride, you'll know exactly what

1761
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: that means when he says, what a beautiful soundlading it makes. Anyway,

1762
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 2: that's what the right hearing care does. It basically gives

1763
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: you your life back, and your hobbies back, and your

1764
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: joy back. And that's why people love them so much.

1765
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred seven three seven sixty six to two.

1766
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 2: That is eight hundred seven three seven sixty six two.

1767
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: Or you can do it online if you like Resonatehealth

1768
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 2: dot co dot Nzetsky. Mike went out to dinner at

1769
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: Christuches Terrorist last night. Couldn't believe how vibrant and busy

1770
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: it was. It's because Priscilla Presley was in town. Why

1771
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: that was the vibe was so positive via christ Ucher

1772
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: is booming at the moment. No one not a single

1773
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 2: bit of feedback on Priscilla Presley this morning. That's unfortunate,

1774
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: isn't It got feedback on every other act in town

1775
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 2: bar Priscilla Presley. So Priscilla is on tonight. I only

1776
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: to believe in Auckland. So if you're going along, you'll

1777
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: need to give me the review on the program tomorrow.

1778
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: Speaking of reviews, sort of five minutes away from nine.

1779
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Walls keeping Kiwi's healthy.

1780
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 23: All year round. Hi, trueblo. Don't say you're gone, say.

1781
01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: Knocked for a smoker. This was lovely actually. John Williamson,

1782
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: who is probably one of the world's nicest people, and

1783
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: I met him in two thousand at the Sydney Olympics.

1784
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: Neither of us were competing, but I met him at

1785
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: the end of a wharf because some idiot with television

1786
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: at the time. Some idiot decided to be good to

1787
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 2: film him at the end of a wharf. Anyway, I've

1788
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 2: loved John Williamson my whole life. I think he's absolutely brilliant. Anyway,

1789
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 2: he was there yesterday at the state funeral of John Laws,

1790
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: and he died the other day at the age of ninety.

1791
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,919
Speaker 2: Also there was Russell Crowe, who delivered the eulogy.

1792
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 15: A long long time ago, John asked me if I

1793
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 15: would speak at his funeral.

1794
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 10: I said yes, And then he just kept on living.

1795
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: Year after year after year. I mean, he lived so

1796
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: long that I've thought at one point I might.

1797
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 10: Have lost the gift.

1798
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 15: However, here we are.

1799
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 12: Now.

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01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 15: Obviously I've planned all these remarks. The idea, though, is

1801
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 15: that I give you the impression I'm just telling you

1802
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 15: stories off the top of my cat. It'll take a

1803
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 15: bit of acting, let's see. However, it's kind of like

1804
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 15: cash for comments, but less obvious.

1805
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: That was his best line up of so it was

1806
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: very nice. And John Williamson, who is now eighty, and

1807
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 2: it's always a test, of course to see somebody who's

1808
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: eighty with a guitar in front of an audience and

1809
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 2: all the acoustic problems a church may or may not

1810
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: put up. But he was brilliant. Howard was there, John Howard,

1811
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: A lot of radio was there. Chrismins was there. The

1812
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: current premiere of New South Wales who gave him the

1813
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: state funeral. So all in all lasted a bit over

1814
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Speaker 2: and now he's a very nice piece of work and

1815
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: a very good tribute. That is us for the day.

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Speaker 2: Back for Friday Morning from six Happy Days.

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