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Speaker 1: Time down to catch up with Tom Buley. He's been

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Speaker 1: competing this year in the Porsche GT three Sprint Challenge

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Speaker 1: Series in Australia, finish with four wins and a couple

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Speaker 1: of lap records. Next step he has won. We reveal this,

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Speaker 1: I think exclusively this morning. He has won the Porsche

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Speaker 1: Scholarship to take the next step and compete in the

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Speaker 1: Career Cup next year. And Tom Buley is, well, it's

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Speaker 1: very the morning. Nice to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, How are you very well?

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Speaker 1: Indeed? Take me through this past season. Have you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been successful? Did you live your dream?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Definitely always living the dream racing and definitely across Australia

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Speaker 3: for the first time. It was an up and down

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Speaker 3: yet definitely. It was my goal going into the year

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Speaker 3: it back by the end of the season. But yeah, overall,

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Speaker 3: I think I was pretty happy with the season. I

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Speaker 1: So overalls, given you've been racing pretty much your whole life,

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Speaker 3: I think you're always learning racecraft because you're always racing

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Speaker 3: When I went to Australia, there was a whole lot

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Speaker 3: I think that's a big part. And also off track

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Speaker 3: you learn how to talk better like these and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Is there a change in the car for next year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they've actually gone back to ABS for next

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be overly reliant in the sense when you've

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Speaker 1: do you think you've become overly reliant on that then

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Speaker 3: I think this year driving no ABS will definitely help

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's gonna be give him back at.

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Speaker 1: The scholarship you've got. What's it mean to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty incredible.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's and apart from anything, and he's a

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Speaker 3: And he's just one phone call away as well, so

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Speaker 1: So the interesting thing about motorsport, you'd understand that better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, there's there's a whole lot of different paths,

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Speaker 2: Stuff like that, like what El was doing. Why I know,

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Speaker 3: But no, I think supercars I grew up watching I

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Speaker 1: you like to go from Porsche to Porsche basically, yes, definitely, Really,

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Speaker 1: what is it about something about the Porsche. It's that

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Speaker 3: I just think I've always just like endurance racing and

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Speaker 1: On you. So the endurance thing is that like running.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic something I read about you that was interesting. See

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Speaker 1: if you can explain it to me. So when you

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Speaker 3: I was the kid driving around the back, waving it

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Speaker 1: How do you balance up you talk about all these

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't become so competitive you lose a friendship.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, Because the first race you will face

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Speaker 1: For the first time, you talk about Scott McLaughlin and

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Speaker 1: that scholarship and stuff. Are those guys helpful in terms?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're awesome guys. It's a lot harder with Scotty

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Speaker 1: What's your trajectory do you think so you'll do this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends how the season goes. Obviously hopefully we

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Speaker 3: This year we'll search out for drives in Europe and

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Speaker 1: Fantastic, super so, so thrilled for you, absolutely filled for you.

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Speaker 1: I hope it goes. You've got the summer off in

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Speaker 1: that sense, so you take it easy. How easy is

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Speaker 1: car if you've had a decent gap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I find that I found that quite hard this year.

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Speaker 3: There was quite a big gap between a couple of

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Speaker 3: the rounds. So just keeping on the sim mostly and

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Speaker 3: just learn those tracks and just keeping fit and stuff

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Speaker 3: and looking at hates the video which what I did,

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Speaker 3: you know, just keeps you in the right mindset and

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Speaker 3: keeps you kind of locked in so when you go

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Speaker 3: into that race, meaning you know what you're doing well.

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Speaker 1: We wish you all the best, good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it very much, Thanks mate, Tom Burley. For more

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