1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,655 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:14,255 Speaker 1: from News Talk, Seat by Squeaky Door. 3 00:00:14,535 --> 00:00:15,535 Speaker 2: Or Squeaky Floor. 4 00:00:15,695 --> 00:00:19,055 Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder 5 00:00:19,255 --> 00:00:20,535 Speaker 1: on news Talk seat by. 6 00:00:22,055 --> 00:00:27,775 Speaker 3: The house sizzor who even when it's dark, even when 7 00:00:27,775 --> 00:00:32,735 Speaker 3: the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when 8 00:00:32,775 --> 00:00:37,015 Speaker 3: the dog is too old to bar, and when you're 9 00:00:37,055 --> 00:00:42,935 Speaker 3: sitting at the table trying not to start scissor. 10 00:00:42,655 --> 00:01:06,615 Speaker 4: Hole, even when we leave a ban, even when you're therellone. 11 00:01:01,055 --> 00:01:06,455 Speaker 5: House sizzle hole, even when there's ghost even when you 12 00:01:06,535 --> 00:01:08,735 Speaker 5: go around from the ones you love, your. 13 00:01:10,855 --> 00:01:13,535 Speaker 3: Screamed broken pains, peeing in front of. 14 00:01:15,975 --> 00:01:27,655 Speaker 5: Locals when they're leavings, even when Wilman, even when you're. 15 00:01:27,455 --> 00:01:38,975 Speaker 6: In there alone, and a very very good morning, Welcome 16 00:01:39,015 --> 00:01:41,295 Speaker 6: along to the Resident Builder on Sunday. 17 00:01:41,335 --> 00:01:43,855 Speaker 2: You're with me, Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and 18 00:01:44,015 --> 00:01:48,015 Speaker 2: this is your opportunity to talk all things building. That's 19 00:01:48,175 --> 00:01:51,535 Speaker 2: all things building houses, all things building apartments, all things 20 00:01:51,575 --> 00:01:56,615 Speaker 2: building fences, decks. In my case yesterday, a temporary excess 21 00:01:56,775 --> 00:02:02,175 Speaker 2: ramp for a mate who'd basically broken his leg and 22 00:02:02,615 --> 00:02:05,295 Speaker 2: was going to find it very difficult to transition from 23 00:02:05,495 --> 00:02:09,975 Speaker 2: the entrance to to the front door, so it was like, hey, 24 00:02:09,975 --> 00:02:11,695 Speaker 2: can you find someone to do it? And to be fair, 25 00:02:11,735 --> 00:02:14,135 Speaker 2: it was in the end I had a little bit 26 00:02:14,175 --> 00:02:17,895 Speaker 2: of time on Saturday and grab some ply and some 27 00:02:17,935 --> 00:02:19,935 Speaker 2: timber and then trying to figure out how do you 28 00:02:19,975 --> 00:02:22,335 Speaker 2: make a platform that's level when the deck is falling 29 00:02:22,375 --> 00:02:24,815 Speaker 2: twenty five mil and then the ramp that comes off 30 00:02:24,815 --> 00:02:27,455 Speaker 2: the side of it has to fall at a certain rate, 31 00:02:27,535 --> 00:02:30,775 Speaker 2: but then it intersects with the slope of the deck 32 00:02:30,935 --> 00:02:33,775 Speaker 2: and that's got to be a smooth trendition. Anyway, it 33 00:02:33,815 --> 00:02:35,815 Speaker 2: was a nice little job. It was one of those 34 00:02:35,895 --> 00:02:38,335 Speaker 2: jobs made so much easier by the fact that I'd 35 00:02:38,335 --> 00:02:42,535 Speaker 2: finished another project just a day or so earlier, had 36 00:02:42,575 --> 00:02:45,295 Speaker 2: been able to have a cleanup in the workshop, and 37 00:02:45,415 --> 00:02:48,975 Speaker 2: my workbench, which is typically either covered in projects or 38 00:02:49,095 --> 00:02:53,695 Speaker 2: just stuff, was absolutely empty. So the workshop was tidy, 39 00:02:53,735 --> 00:02:56,455 Speaker 2: or my workspace was tidy, the bench was empty. It 40 00:02:56,455 --> 00:02:58,735 Speaker 2: was almost like it was waiting for me to do something, 41 00:02:59,015 --> 00:03:01,295 Speaker 2: and along came that job on a Saturday. So if 42 00:03:01,335 --> 00:03:07,215 Speaker 2: you are building something, maintaining something, renovating something about getting 43 00:03:07,695 --> 00:03:12,215 Speaker 2: new products, new ideas, working with contractors, anything to do 44 00:03:12,375 --> 00:03:15,695 Speaker 2: with owning or looking after your own home. Oh, eight 45 00:03:15,775 --> 00:03:18,335 Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. You 46 00:03:18,375 --> 00:03:20,735 Speaker 2: can text, of course, that's nine two nine two or 47 00:03:20,815 --> 00:03:23,135 Speaker 2: zbzb from your mobile phone if you just want to 48 00:03:23,175 --> 00:03:25,655 Speaker 2: send a quick text. I do try and get to 49 00:03:25,695 --> 00:03:28,495 Speaker 2: most of those, but don't always get to every single one, 50 00:03:28,535 --> 00:03:30,695 Speaker 2: but hey, send them through. We'll have a crack at 51 00:03:30,695 --> 00:03:33,575 Speaker 2: that and you can email me if you like. That's 52 00:03:33,615 --> 00:03:38,495 Speaker 2: Peaked Pete at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz if you've 53 00:03:38,535 --> 00:03:40,775 Speaker 2: got something, particularly if you want every now and then 54 00:03:40,815 --> 00:03:43,295 Speaker 2: someone says, oh, I've tried to text you a picture, 55 00:03:43,335 --> 00:03:45,775 Speaker 2: which I know we all can from our mobile phones 56 00:03:45,855 --> 00:03:48,935 Speaker 2: these days, doesn't work with a text machine here, okay, 57 00:03:49,015 --> 00:03:50,655 Speaker 2: So if you need to send me a photograph of 58 00:03:51,975 --> 00:03:55,295 Speaker 2: something that's falling down, something that's rotting, something that's fallen off, 59 00:03:56,175 --> 00:03:59,615 Speaker 2: you can email that to me. That's Peaked at NEWSTALKSTB 60 00:03:59,855 --> 00:04:03,735 Speaker 2: dot co dot Nz Radio. Let's get into it because 61 00:04:04,015 --> 00:04:08,375 Speaker 2: it's a slightly shorter show. So much excitement in the 62 00:04:08,415 --> 00:04:11,655 Speaker 2: world of rugby that the Wallabies, I hope everyone knows 63 00:04:11,735 --> 00:04:15,615 Speaker 2: this came back from what were they twenty two zero 64 00:04:15,695 --> 00:04:19,815 Speaker 2: down after twenty minutes to beat the spring box? Was 65 00:04:19,855 --> 00:04:22,455 Speaker 2: it thirty eight or thirty nine to twenty two, so 66 00:04:22,655 --> 00:04:26,095 Speaker 2: phenomenal performance. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing 67 00:04:26,215 --> 00:04:28,535 Speaker 2: for the All Blacks ahead of the Argentina game. The 68 00:04:28,735 --> 00:04:32,135 Speaker 2: Argentina game, we hand over to the sports team at 69 00:04:32,175 --> 00:04:35,375 Speaker 2: eight forty five this morning, so Rudd will be with 70 00:04:35,535 --> 00:04:37,535 Speaker 2: us a little bit earlier. We'll try and give him 71 00:04:37,535 --> 00:04:40,015 Speaker 2: a decent amount of space. Ridd will join us a 72 00:04:40,055 --> 00:04:43,495 Speaker 2: bit earlier, just after eight twenty, and then we will 73 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:46,575 Speaker 2: hand over to the sports commentary team from eight forty 74 00:04:46,655 --> 00:04:49,175 Speaker 2: five ahead of kickoff I think just a couple of 75 00:04:49,255 --> 00:04:53,295 Speaker 2: minutes after nine o'clock, so a slightly shorter show this morning, 76 00:04:53,695 --> 00:04:56,495 Speaker 2: but let's rip into it. So if you've got questions 77 00:04:56,575 --> 00:05:01,895 Speaker 2: of a building, nature, maintenance, renovations, alterations, just looking after 78 00:05:02,015 --> 00:05:04,975 Speaker 2: the place, you can give me a call right now 79 00:05:05,415 --> 00:05:08,855 Speaker 2: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you are thinking 80 00:05:08,895 --> 00:05:12,015 Speaker 2: about lots of still lots of changes to legislation, so 81 00:05:12,135 --> 00:05:14,815 Speaker 2: maybe there's something out there that you're thinking about. You know, 82 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:17,855 Speaker 2: when can I do it? Can I do it now? 83 00:05:18,575 --> 00:05:20,855 Speaker 2: I tell you what I'm a little bit curious about too, 84 00:05:21,615 --> 00:05:26,815 Speaker 2: particularly the announcement that was made by both David Seymour 85 00:05:27,015 --> 00:05:32,215 Speaker 2: and Chris Pink. This is sort of a response to 86 00:05:32,335 --> 00:05:36,815 Speaker 2: a tip from the Red Tape Tip Hop hotline. Apparently, 87 00:05:38,015 --> 00:05:39,935 Speaker 2: you know, why can't I put a garden shed right 88 00:05:40,015 --> 00:05:43,215 Speaker 2: up against the boundary? The rules have always been it 89 00:05:43,335 --> 00:05:44,935 Speaker 2: needs to be the height of the boundary, or the 90 00:05:45,015 --> 00:05:47,615 Speaker 2: height of the shed away from the boundary, or an 91 00:05:47,615 --> 00:05:52,335 Speaker 2: adjacent building. Which look, I don't think anyone ever did, 92 00:05:52,535 --> 00:05:54,655 Speaker 2: And if they did do it, they realized they were 93 00:05:54,695 --> 00:05:56,615 Speaker 2: losing a lot of space, so they tended to sneak 94 00:05:56,655 --> 00:05:59,375 Speaker 2: it back towards the fence. I'll put my hand up 95 00:05:59,455 --> 00:06:03,175 Speaker 2: to that as well. So now if it's less than 96 00:06:03,215 --> 00:06:05,815 Speaker 2: tens or up to ten square meters, it can go 97 00:06:06,015 --> 00:06:10,815 Speaker 2: harder to the boundary. Does that then mean that if 98 00:06:10,855 --> 00:06:13,855 Speaker 2: you've already got a shed that might be close to 99 00:06:13,975 --> 00:06:19,135 Speaker 2: the boundary, that it now becomes legal. I guess it does. 100 00:06:19,255 --> 00:06:21,815 Speaker 2: I don't think it's just for those sheds that might 101 00:06:21,975 --> 00:06:27,015 Speaker 2: be built after they're expecting the legislation come through towards 102 00:06:27,015 --> 00:06:28,775 Speaker 2: the end of the year. You may care to comment, Oh, 103 00:06:28,815 --> 00:06:31,095 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call 104 00:06:31,215 --> 00:06:33,735 Speaker 2: if you've got a question of a building nature. We've 105 00:06:33,815 --> 00:06:36,415 Speaker 2: got things set up and ready to go. So the 106 00:06:36,495 --> 00:06:39,495 Speaker 2: lines are open. The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 107 00:06:40,055 --> 00:06:42,215 Speaker 2: Remind me, I must tell you I went to what 108 00:06:42,415 --> 00:06:47,855 Speaker 2: felt like the Laddin's Cave of woodworking tools the other day. Well, no, 109 00:06:48,055 --> 00:06:51,815 Speaker 2: not really in the Laddin's Cave, because it wasn't free. 110 00:06:51,935 --> 00:06:54,655 Speaker 2: It was a store and it was absolutely freaking amazing. 111 00:06:54,695 --> 00:06:56,135 Speaker 2: It was fantastic. I'll tell you about that a little 112 00:06:56,135 --> 00:07:00,375 Speaker 2: bit later on. Robin, very good morning to you. Now 113 00:07:00,375 --> 00:07:02,375 Speaker 2: we going morning. I'm very well Robin yourself. 114 00:07:03,455 --> 00:07:08,335 Speaker 7: I'm das just trying to sell my house at the moment. 115 00:07:08,735 --> 00:07:12,615 Speaker 7: And so they come up on a reporting a possibility 116 00:07:12,815 --> 00:07:16,015 Speaker 7: as the loss from the nineteen eighties house of in 117 00:07:16,175 --> 00:07:21,855 Speaker 7: nineteen twenty eight when they did a renovation two thousand 118 00:07:21,895 --> 00:07:25,335 Speaker 7: and nine. Would there have been a chance all that 119 00:07:25,415 --> 00:07:27,495 Speaker 7: stuff would have been picked up when they had to 120 00:07:27,615 --> 00:07:31,495 Speaker 7: do renovation through a council. I just can't to find 121 00:07:31,535 --> 00:07:34,935 Speaker 7: anything on any reports con find it. 122 00:07:35,135 --> 00:07:36,535 Speaker 8: And so what do I do? 123 00:07:40,575 --> 00:07:40,735 Speaker 9: See? 124 00:07:41,615 --> 00:07:45,935 Speaker 2: It raises a couple of issues. One is around to 125 00:07:46,055 --> 00:07:50,615 Speaker 2: be blunt the professionalism of people doing pre purchase house inspections, right, 126 00:07:51,695 --> 00:07:54,535 Speaker 2: so you know, I mean it's a fair point to 127 00:07:54,655 --> 00:07:59,535 Speaker 2: say there could be asbestos in a property nineteen eighties. 128 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:02,975 Speaker 2: I mean, the unfortunate thing is we were still using, 129 00:08:04,375 --> 00:08:06,735 Speaker 2: if not asbestos in the way that we tend to 130 00:08:06,815 --> 00:08:09,775 Speaker 2: imagine it. You know, sheets of a fiber cement type 131 00:08:09,815 --> 00:08:13,215 Speaker 2: product that had asbestos in it, but a lot, a 132 00:08:13,375 --> 00:08:17,375 Speaker 2: surprising and disturbing number of products are what they call ACM, 133 00:08:17,535 --> 00:08:21,895 Speaker 2: so asbestos containing material, and some asbestos was still coming 134 00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:25,055 Speaker 2: into New Zealand as late as two thousand, right, So 135 00:08:25,175 --> 00:08:29,175 Speaker 2: it's not a it's not a completely unrealistic question to ask. 136 00:08:29,615 --> 00:08:33,615 Speaker 2: But if your house is a nineteen eighties house in 137 00:08:34,175 --> 00:08:38,255 Speaker 2: what particular area did the pre purchase inspector say that 138 00:08:38,415 --> 00:08:41,255 Speaker 2: they had some concerns about asbestos? Where where did they 139 00:08:41,335 --> 00:08:41,935 Speaker 2: identify it? 140 00:08:43,415 --> 00:08:46,215 Speaker 7: While they didn't say where, he just said he couldn't 141 00:08:46,575 --> 00:08:51,975 Speaker 7: identify the claning on the house when he went through, 142 00:08:52,015 --> 00:08:55,615 Speaker 7: he could have confirmed what the planning was, and just 143 00:08:55,735 --> 00:09:00,615 Speaker 7: the question open. I do know there was an extension 144 00:09:00,735 --> 00:09:05,695 Speaker 7: done two thousand and nine where they had to obviously 145 00:09:05,775 --> 00:09:10,655 Speaker 7: be a portion of that, and I just don't know 146 00:09:12,015 --> 00:09:17,055 Speaker 7: back two thousand and nine, was that the twok of 147 00:09:17,095 --> 00:09:19,855 Speaker 7: the century for where as we speak about it. 148 00:09:19,895 --> 00:09:24,415 Speaker 2: To day, I think it would be very close to 149 00:09:24,495 --> 00:09:28,375 Speaker 2: when new legislation was introduced, but possibly just a little 150 00:09:28,415 --> 00:09:32,335 Speaker 2: bit before it, so there was kind of a directive 151 00:09:32,415 --> 00:09:36,055 Speaker 2: through WorkSafe, and there's there's new legislation that puts the 152 00:09:36,215 --> 00:09:41,295 Speaker 2: onus on determining whether or not the product is asbestos 153 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:44,935 Speaker 2: or ACM, on the homeowner and in some degree on 154 00:09:45,015 --> 00:09:49,375 Speaker 2: the contractor. Right, So if you don't know, the responsibility 155 00:09:49,495 --> 00:09:54,175 Speaker 2: is on you to test. And that's that's sort of 156 00:09:54,255 --> 00:09:57,895 Speaker 2: how we all see it now. So for example, you know, 157 00:09:57,975 --> 00:10:00,855 Speaker 2: if you were going to a nineteen sixties bricantile that 158 00:10:01,015 --> 00:10:05,575 Speaker 2: had some sort of flat sheeting for this defeat, you'd go, actually, 159 00:10:05,735 --> 00:10:09,735 Speaker 2: given its age, given the type of material, it's worth testing. Right, 160 00:10:09,855 --> 00:10:12,815 Speaker 2: You test it, and then you determine how you're going 161 00:10:12,855 --> 00:10:15,735 Speaker 2: to proceed with drilling a hole for a new extraction fan. Right, 162 00:10:15,855 --> 00:10:18,695 Speaker 2: There's that sort of thing. So that's similar to what 163 00:10:18,775 --> 00:10:21,975 Speaker 2: you're talking about back in two thousand and seven. You 164 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:25,575 Speaker 2: were saying two thousand and nine when they cut through 165 00:10:25,695 --> 00:10:30,295 Speaker 2: those weather boards. So I mean, look, if you had 166 00:10:30,335 --> 00:10:33,335 Speaker 2: a concern, you'd look at the weatherboard and go if 167 00:10:33,375 --> 00:10:36,095 Speaker 2: it's you know, if it's timber, we know there's not 168 00:10:36,175 --> 00:10:36,615 Speaker 2: a problem. 169 00:10:36,735 --> 00:10:36,855 Speaker 10: Right. 170 00:10:37,255 --> 00:10:40,095 Speaker 2: If it's a fiber cement board of some description, and 171 00:10:40,135 --> 00:10:43,495 Speaker 2: there's probably four or five different types of them. Then again, 172 00:10:43,615 --> 00:10:48,695 Speaker 2: if it's nineteen eighties, it's really unlikely that, but you 173 00:10:48,775 --> 00:10:55,615 Speaker 2: could test, right, see, I find that sort of thing 174 00:10:55,855 --> 00:11:02,975 Speaker 2: for it's it's risk averse to the point of being nonsensical. 175 00:11:03,375 --> 00:11:08,415 Speaker 2: Like I'm not diminishing the potential for harm from exposure 176 00:11:08,455 --> 00:11:13,975 Speaker 2: to asbestos, right, it is unbelievably awful way. Basically, it's 177 00:11:14,015 --> 00:11:17,695 Speaker 2: a really awful way to die, you know, as a 178 00:11:17,735 --> 00:11:20,975 Speaker 2: result of exposure to asbestos. So I'm not at all 179 00:11:22,135 --> 00:11:25,655 Speaker 2: saying you shouldn't be concerned, but in a report like that, 180 00:11:26,655 --> 00:11:29,695 Speaker 2: not being able to identify the cladding, you know, to 181 00:11:29,815 --> 00:11:31,895 Speaker 2: be fair, there's not that many types of cladding around. 182 00:11:31,935 --> 00:11:34,375 Speaker 2: You should be able to have at least a reasonable idea. 183 00:11:35,415 --> 00:11:37,495 Speaker 2: You could do a quick Google search and determine it. 184 00:11:37,615 --> 00:11:40,375 Speaker 2: So to leave something as open ended as that in 185 00:11:40,535 --> 00:11:44,535 Speaker 2: the report I think is a little bit unfair and 186 00:11:44,935 --> 00:11:50,575 Speaker 2: not terribly professional in my opinion. So look, I mean, 187 00:11:50,815 --> 00:11:52,655 Speaker 2: if you're going to sell the house and given that 188 00:11:52,735 --> 00:11:55,975 Speaker 2: it's on the report, and then potentially that's reports being 189 00:11:56,015 --> 00:11:58,655 Speaker 2: shared with the agent, the agent then has a duty 190 00:11:58,735 --> 00:12:06,815 Speaker 2: to disclose under their responsibilities you know, theoretically, every person 191 00:12:06,855 --> 00:12:08,655 Speaker 2: that comes through the house and ask the agent is 192 00:12:08,695 --> 00:12:10,855 Speaker 2: there a concern with it, the agent's going to have 193 00:12:10,935 --> 00:12:12,655 Speaker 2: to say, oh, by the way, I saw a report 194 00:12:12,695 --> 00:12:17,935 Speaker 2: that indicated there might be asbestos, right, I would suggest 195 00:12:18,175 --> 00:12:20,455 Speaker 2: that the simplest way is for you to remove a 196 00:12:20,575 --> 00:12:23,215 Speaker 2: section of that cladding, you know, maybe somewhere around the 197 00:12:23,255 --> 00:12:25,455 Speaker 2: back of the house or underneath a scriber that you 198 00:12:25,495 --> 00:12:28,175 Speaker 2: could put the scriber back on, take it to a lab, 199 00:12:28,375 --> 00:12:35,095 Speaker 2: get it tested, and then you know, yeah, obviously there's 200 00:12:35,135 --> 00:12:38,055 Speaker 2: a small risk with that. So for example, if it 201 00:12:38,175 --> 00:12:41,775 Speaker 2: did happen to come back as asbestos or ACM, you 202 00:12:41,855 --> 00:12:45,735 Speaker 2: would need to declare that to the person who's listening 203 00:12:45,815 --> 00:12:48,255 Speaker 2: your property. But if it comes back clear, which I 204 00:12:48,335 --> 00:12:51,975 Speaker 2: suspect is most likely, the great thing is you can say, yep, 205 00:12:52,175 --> 00:12:54,655 Speaker 2: I know that that was done. I've gone ahead, I've 206 00:12:54,735 --> 00:12:59,775 Speaker 2: been proactive, I've had a test done. He's the test results. Yeah, 207 00:13:00,455 --> 00:13:05,255 Speaker 2: you know, science is good. So I would run with that, 208 00:13:06,295 --> 00:13:08,255 Speaker 2: and good luck was selling the house. I know it's 209 00:13:08,535 --> 00:13:09,935 Speaker 2: still a bit of a funny old market. 210 00:13:11,735 --> 00:13:14,015 Speaker 7: Oh no, it has only been off for two weeks, 211 00:13:14,055 --> 00:13:18,735 Speaker 7: and sorry being an opera on it, so bastudents of it, 212 00:13:18,975 --> 00:13:22,135 Speaker 7: so nice a lot around around our whole neighborhood and 213 00:13:22,215 --> 00:13:25,175 Speaker 7: there's like many hours is it the same build in 214 00:13:25,255 --> 00:13:28,535 Speaker 7: that same era, So I guess there will just be 215 00:13:28,895 --> 00:13:29,375 Speaker 7: the you know, it. 216 00:13:29,455 --> 00:13:30,615 Speaker 11: Is what it is for the EU. 217 00:13:32,455 --> 00:13:33,655 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's final. 218 00:13:35,175 --> 00:13:35,335 Speaker 9: Done. 219 00:13:35,535 --> 00:13:37,735 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the safest spect robin. And the 220 00:13:37,815 --> 00:13:40,575 Speaker 2: other thing too, to really be clear on is that 221 00:13:41,055 --> 00:13:44,535 Speaker 2: asbestos when it's essentially inert, right, so it's on you 222 00:13:44,615 --> 00:13:46,855 Speaker 2: weather boards, it's got a coat of paint over the 223 00:13:46,935 --> 00:13:51,055 Speaker 2: top of it. There is there is basically zero risk, right. 224 00:13:52,135 --> 00:13:55,015 Speaker 2: The concern comes when, like when they were doing the renovation, 225 00:13:55,415 --> 00:13:57,455 Speaker 2: you take an angle grinder to it and you cut 226 00:13:57,575 --> 00:14:00,055 Speaker 2: through it and you're not wearing a mask and all 227 00:14:00,095 --> 00:14:02,415 Speaker 2: the rest of it, and you can and if there 228 00:14:02,495 --> 00:14:05,415 Speaker 2: were asbestos fibers in it, you inhaled those. That's where 229 00:14:05,455 --> 00:14:07,815 Speaker 2: the risk is. So when you cut it, drill it, 230 00:14:08,295 --> 00:14:10,935 Speaker 2: you know, break it, that sort of thing, the fibers 231 00:14:11,015 --> 00:14:14,255 Speaker 2: become airborne and that's the risk where they are on 232 00:14:14,415 --> 00:14:18,175 Speaker 2: your place right now, no risk whatsoever? All right, well, 233 00:14:18,295 --> 00:14:19,015 Speaker 2: very little risk. 234 00:14:19,735 --> 00:14:22,175 Speaker 7: So where we replaced the windows, we didn't cut that. 235 00:14:22,415 --> 00:14:25,295 Speaker 2: We're all just perfect. 236 00:14:28,455 --> 00:14:30,935 Speaker 7: Decide to watch straight back in, so we didn't touch 237 00:14:31,535 --> 00:14:33,655 Speaker 7: or upset anything that was already original. 238 00:14:34,775 --> 00:14:39,975 Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, perfect, do some testing mate, all right, all 239 00:14:40,015 --> 00:14:43,455 Speaker 2: the best to you, take care see Robin bob o. 240 00:14:43,535 --> 00:14:48,975 Speaker 2: Then I keep forgetting I realize every now and then 241 00:14:49,015 --> 00:14:50,455 Speaker 2: I say, oh, I must talk to you about that 242 00:14:50,535 --> 00:14:52,015 Speaker 2: later on. Then I forget to do it and I 243 00:14:52,095 --> 00:14:54,615 Speaker 2: get angry texts about it. Where I went it was 244 00:14:54,615 --> 00:14:56,375 Speaker 2: actually a couple of weeks ago, and I kept meaning 245 00:14:56,415 --> 00:15:03,655 Speaker 2: to mention this' I'd seen something online right, a tool 246 00:15:03,775 --> 00:15:05,975 Speaker 2: that I didn't have, and I'm like, that looks awesome, 247 00:15:06,015 --> 00:15:07,695 Speaker 2: that could really useful. It was kind of like a 248 00:15:08,175 --> 00:15:14,215 Speaker 2: heavy metal ruler with a sliding stop on it, so 249 00:15:14,615 --> 00:15:19,335 Speaker 2: sort of like a marking gauge, but slightly different. Anyway, 250 00:15:19,375 --> 00:15:21,295 Speaker 2: I saw one and then I saw where they had them, 251 00:15:21,815 --> 00:15:24,015 Speaker 2: and I was off to visit Mum the other day 252 00:15:24,095 --> 00:15:27,815 Speaker 2: and I called into carb a Tech, which is out 253 00:15:28,015 --> 00:15:31,655 Speaker 2: in where are the Harris Road out in East Tarmaki. 254 00:15:32,255 --> 00:15:37,055 Speaker 2: Walked in there and I was like, oh my goodness, Like, 255 00:15:37,215 --> 00:15:39,775 Speaker 2: how am I going to leave here without buying way 256 00:15:39,935 --> 00:15:43,375 Speaker 2: more stuff than I thought I was going to buy. Anyway, 257 00:15:43,415 --> 00:15:46,415 Speaker 2: I got the sliding ruler or sliding Yeah. Ruler. I'll 258 00:15:46,415 --> 00:15:49,095 Speaker 2: get the right name for it off the website. Soon 259 00:15:49,535 --> 00:15:54,495 Speaker 2: found that found a little taper measuring gauge which is 260 00:15:54,615 --> 00:15:57,495 Speaker 2: super handy for trying to measure the gap of something, 261 00:15:57,615 --> 00:16:01,135 Speaker 2: and then actually found some replacement braces for my apron 262 00:16:01,255 --> 00:16:05,535 Speaker 2: as well. There. I was lucky to get out actually 263 00:16:05,735 --> 00:16:09,375 Speaker 2: and a delight full chat to the owners and talked 264 00:16:09,375 --> 00:16:14,495 Speaker 2: about woodworking and wood turning. Apparently New Zealand's like the 265 00:16:14,695 --> 00:16:18,255 Speaker 2: home of wood turning these days globally, and that whenever 266 00:16:18,335 --> 00:16:22,935 Speaker 2: these international wood turning competitions, New Zealanders are always exceptionally 267 00:16:23,015 --> 00:16:26,895 Speaker 2: well represented there. I think it's some like World wood 268 00:16:26,975 --> 00:16:31,535 Speaker 2: turning competition some time ago. Out of the top ten, 269 00:16:31,695 --> 00:16:34,615 Speaker 2: three came from New Zealand. And we make lathes here, 270 00:16:35,455 --> 00:16:39,535 Speaker 2: which is even more amazing as well. Anyway, look, if 271 00:16:39,575 --> 00:16:45,295 Speaker 2: you're into your tools, new tools, obviously I can't can't 272 00:16:45,335 --> 00:16:50,175 Speaker 2: recommend it highly enough. It was a fantastic day. Might 273 00:16:50,215 --> 00:16:53,095 Speaker 2: even make me visit mymum more. Oh, eight hundred eighty 274 00:16:53,175 --> 00:16:55,895 Speaker 2: ten eighty. It is twenty two minutes after six. We'll 275 00:16:55,935 --> 00:16:57,135 Speaker 2: be back with Pam after the. 276 00:16:57,135 --> 00:17:01,215 Speaker 1: Break, helping you get those DIY projects done right. The 277 00:17:01,415 --> 00:17:05,215 Speaker 1: resident builder with Peta wolfcaf call Oh eight hundred eighty 278 00:17:05,375 --> 00:17:07,535 Speaker 1: youth talksa'd be see. 279 00:17:07,375 --> 00:17:11,615 Speaker 2: Now, I'm kind of in trouble because during the break 280 00:17:11,735 --> 00:17:14,295 Speaker 2: I thought i'd go through the website to see if 281 00:17:14,375 --> 00:17:16,615 Speaker 2: i could find the proper name of the tool that 282 00:17:16,695 --> 00:17:21,495 Speaker 2: I've purchased, which now has me trailing through pages and 283 00:17:21,575 --> 00:17:24,695 Speaker 2: pages of other tools that I don't have that are 284 00:17:24,775 --> 00:17:27,895 Speaker 2: now kind of tempting as well. Right oh, twenty six 285 00:17:27,975 --> 00:17:31,855 Speaker 2: minutes after six pam. Good morning, good. 286 00:17:31,775 --> 00:17:32,695 Speaker 11: Morning, good morning. 287 00:17:33,015 --> 00:17:35,415 Speaker 12: A couple of weeks ago, I had a quita debt 288 00:17:36,095 --> 00:17:41,655 Speaker 12: installed for my patio and I have very heavy, old. 289 00:17:41,535 --> 00:17:44,335 Speaker 11: Type wicker chairs on top of it. 290 00:17:44,735 --> 00:17:49,015 Speaker 12: Yes, I've noticed around the legs of the chairs the 291 00:17:49,215 --> 00:17:53,575 Speaker 12: queler is starting to bleed, and I was wondering if 292 00:17:53,615 --> 00:17:56,655 Speaker 12: you could help me because I don't quite know what 293 00:17:56,815 --> 00:17:57,375 Speaker 12: to do with it. 294 00:17:58,015 --> 00:18:00,495 Speaker 2: When you say the quiller has started to bleed, So 295 00:18:00,655 --> 00:18:03,775 Speaker 2: where the chair sits on top, that's where you're seeing 296 00:18:03,815 --> 00:18:05,735 Speaker 2: a mark on the quiller or is the mark on the. 297 00:18:05,815 --> 00:18:08,095 Speaker 12: Chair Michael a Quila? 298 00:18:09,935 --> 00:18:15,415 Speaker 2: Okay, Quila, like a couple of other hardwoods, obvious, he 299 00:18:15,535 --> 00:18:18,135 Speaker 2: has a lot of resin in it and it always 300 00:18:18,175 --> 00:18:22,975 Speaker 2: bleeds right, and that stops after a period of time. 301 00:18:23,575 --> 00:18:27,215 Speaker 2: So I just wonder whether just removing the furniture and 302 00:18:27,775 --> 00:18:32,095 Speaker 2: leaving it, let's say until early summer, you know, the 303 00:18:32,215 --> 00:18:35,215 Speaker 2: end of spring, early summer, and then putting your furniture 304 00:18:35,255 --> 00:18:39,255 Speaker 2: back should be okay, and where those marks are unless 305 00:18:39,375 --> 00:18:42,375 Speaker 2: what's happened is something from the wicker. But is the 306 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,655 Speaker 2: wicker furniture older furniture okay? 307 00:18:46,655 --> 00:18:50,495 Speaker 12: No, and they purchased it about four years ago. 308 00:18:50,935 --> 00:18:53,775 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but it's been outside, hasn't it. 309 00:18:54,535 --> 00:18:55,535 Speaker 12: It's over the porch. 310 00:18:56,975 --> 00:18:59,655 Speaker 2: Yeah. What I'm thinking is sometimes, I mean even I've 311 00:18:59,655 --> 00:19:03,775 Speaker 2: seen it with new hardwood. Outdoor furniture will leach out 312 00:19:03,815 --> 00:19:05,895 Speaker 2: as well, So people put it on the concrete tiles, 313 00:19:05,935 --> 00:19:11,135 Speaker 2: for example, and it leaches the queeler leaches out into that. Look. 314 00:19:11,215 --> 00:19:15,735 Speaker 2: I just think that whatever's happened, it'll probably just evaporate. 315 00:19:17,215 --> 00:19:19,815 Speaker 2: So I would just take the furniture off, if you 316 00:19:19,855 --> 00:19:21,855 Speaker 2: could store it somewhere else. You know, at this time 317 00:19:21,895 --> 00:19:23,775 Speaker 2: of year, you're probably not sitting out there that much. 318 00:19:27,655 --> 00:19:29,615 Speaker 2: You want to be out there every day enjoying your 319 00:19:29,655 --> 00:19:36,655 Speaker 2: brand new deck. Yes, what sort of mark has it left? Like, 320 00:19:36,775 --> 00:19:37,655 Speaker 2: what's the concern? 321 00:19:38,695 --> 00:19:39,135 Speaker 9: It's like. 322 00:19:40,735 --> 00:19:44,735 Speaker 12: Dropping a liquid from above it it's sort of just 323 00:19:45,735 --> 00:19:50,015 Speaker 12: not splatters. But oh, I can't explain it really. 324 00:19:53,175 --> 00:19:57,935 Speaker 2: I think I know what you mean. It might just 325 00:19:58,095 --> 00:19:59,855 Speaker 2: be that you have to wait for the deck to 326 00:19:59,975 --> 00:20:03,255 Speaker 2: sort of acclimatize. Right, it's a brand new deck. It 327 00:20:03,415 --> 00:20:06,295 Speaker 2: will bleed that that sap that's in there, that resis 328 00:20:06,295 --> 00:20:09,295 Speaker 2: and that's in there will want to come out. And 329 00:20:10,415 --> 00:20:14,095 Speaker 2: that's just a patience thing. So I do wonder whether 330 00:20:14,135 --> 00:20:16,175 Speaker 2: you might just have to move the furniture off for 331 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:19,575 Speaker 2: a period of time, allow the deck to settle down, 332 00:20:19,695 --> 00:20:21,375 Speaker 2: and then bring your furniture back out again. 333 00:20:22,495 --> 00:20:26,335 Speaker 12: But would it be useful to wrap something around the 334 00:20:26,455 --> 00:20:27,815 Speaker 12: leges or the chairs. 335 00:20:28,735 --> 00:20:34,655 Speaker 2: In terms of preventing contact. Yes, look, it wouldn't hurt. 336 00:20:34,975 --> 00:20:37,015 Speaker 2: It wouldn't hurt. Even if you got some of those little, 337 00:20:37,935 --> 00:20:42,735 Speaker 2: you know, single sided adhesive chair pads that you can 338 00:20:42,775 --> 00:20:45,295 Speaker 2: buy and put those on the bottom. They probably won't 339 00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:47,815 Speaker 2: stick very well for very long, but it would would 340 00:20:47,895 --> 00:20:50,575 Speaker 2: give you some separation. Might look a little bit tidier 341 00:20:50,655 --> 00:20:56,975 Speaker 2: than than putting down, you know, like wrapping some tape 342 00:20:57,015 --> 00:21:01,015 Speaker 2: around the bottom of the feet, right, So that's another 343 00:21:01,055 --> 00:21:06,695 Speaker 2: option for you. Separating the two surfaces might help a little. 344 00:21:06,815 --> 00:21:11,255 Speaker 2: Take care pet eight hundred eighty Good morning peak. Composite 345 00:21:11,295 --> 00:21:15,815 Speaker 2: decking versus timber decking. Are composite materials i ecodic or 346 00:21:15,895 --> 00:21:19,175 Speaker 2: bamboo worth considering? Are they slippery when dry or wet? 347 00:21:20,255 --> 00:21:24,815 Speaker 2: Do they fade? Are they brittle? Uv resistant? Generally, there 348 00:21:24,935 --> 00:21:27,895 Speaker 2: are they worth considering. I'm aware they're dearer, but cheaper 349 00:21:28,015 --> 00:21:30,935 Speaker 2: as quicker to install. Thank you very much, says Mary. 350 00:21:32,615 --> 00:21:36,215 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Look, I've used them right, composite 351 00:21:36,255 --> 00:21:38,015 Speaker 2: decking particularly m. 352 00:21:41,015 --> 00:21:41,175 Speaker 3: Ah. 353 00:21:41,455 --> 00:21:42,775 Speaker 2: The name will come back to me in a minute. 354 00:21:43,575 --> 00:21:46,095 Speaker 2: So yes, they are worth considering. I think you've got 355 00:21:46,175 --> 00:21:48,735 Speaker 2: to go for a company perhaps that's been around for 356 00:21:48,775 --> 00:21:51,855 Speaker 2: a while. Every now and then new products arrive on 357 00:21:51,935 --> 00:21:54,055 Speaker 2: the market and then they disappear, so you want something 358 00:21:54,095 --> 00:21:57,575 Speaker 2: that's been in the market for a while. Yes, there 359 00:21:57,655 --> 00:22:01,215 Speaker 2: are some advantages they do. Movement tends to be the 360 00:22:01,255 --> 00:22:04,375 Speaker 2: biggest issue with them. Over the length there might be 361 00:22:04,695 --> 00:22:08,055 Speaker 2: like two or three millimeters meter of board where you 362 00:22:08,175 --> 00:22:13,935 Speaker 2: get expansion and contraction. Some people don't like that. There 363 00:22:14,055 --> 00:22:17,815 Speaker 2: was a new wood fiber decking that I saw at 364 00:22:18,015 --> 00:22:22,215 Speaker 2: building said the other day. I'll try and find the details. 365 00:22:23,615 --> 00:22:26,935 Speaker 2: That was looked quite impressive as well, So yes, not 366 00:22:27,095 --> 00:22:33,935 Speaker 2: worth dismissing, and in some instances, perhaps where you're concerned 367 00:22:33,935 --> 00:22:38,255 Speaker 2: about like slip resistance for example, they can actually genuinely 368 00:22:38,415 --> 00:22:42,015 Speaker 2: be a benefit. So hopefully that helps. They are worth 369 00:22:44,095 --> 00:22:46,375 Speaker 2: they are worth looking at. Diane, good morning to you. 370 00:22:47,495 --> 00:22:50,055 Speaker 9: Oh, good morning, good morning. I'm a little bit croaky. 371 00:22:50,215 --> 00:22:51,975 Speaker 2: So anyway, both. 372 00:22:53,855 --> 00:23:00,815 Speaker 9: Now, in a house I've just bought, there are tiles everywhere, 373 00:23:00,935 --> 00:23:04,735 Speaker 9: but there's tiles in the toilet and the tiles in 374 00:23:04,855 --> 00:23:09,175 Speaker 9: the bathroom. From the floor, you're up to about waist 375 00:23:09,535 --> 00:23:14,575 Speaker 9: line your waist. So I'm wondering, how could you get 376 00:23:14,655 --> 00:23:18,295 Speaker 9: the tiles off the wall without damaging the walls? 377 00:23:20,135 --> 00:23:25,895 Speaker 2: Sure, any sort answer is pretty much no. So I 378 00:23:25,935 --> 00:23:28,615 Speaker 2: don't mean to be blunt or dismissive, but typically what 379 00:23:28,695 --> 00:23:32,015 Speaker 2: would happen is it depends you know. Let's say, is 380 00:23:32,095 --> 00:23:33,495 Speaker 2: it a relatively new house. 381 00:23:34,335 --> 00:23:39,615 Speaker 9: No, it's about nineteen ages. Well, no, it may have 382 00:23:39,815 --> 00:23:42,975 Speaker 9: been updated at some state, right right. 383 00:23:43,855 --> 00:23:46,575 Speaker 2: Look, I think Well, as you can imagine, the tiles 384 00:23:46,615 --> 00:23:50,135 Speaker 2: are stuck with glue to the substrate, right, So if 385 00:23:50,255 --> 00:23:53,615 Speaker 2: that is a plaster board, then the glue will stick 386 00:23:53,655 --> 00:23:56,015 Speaker 2: to the paper. So when you take the tile off 387 00:23:56,335 --> 00:23:58,735 Speaker 2: and take the glue off with the adhesive off. It's 388 00:23:58,775 --> 00:24:02,895 Speaker 2: going to rip the paper surface off most likely, in 389 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:05,855 Speaker 2: which case you are talking about having to remove the 390 00:24:05,975 --> 00:24:10,015 Speaker 2: wall lining or line over the wall lining in order 391 00:24:10,175 --> 00:24:13,375 Speaker 2: to get it back to a smooth surface. So if 392 00:24:13,455 --> 00:24:16,135 Speaker 2: what you're thinking is I don't really like the tiles, 393 00:24:16,295 --> 00:24:21,455 Speaker 2: I would like to have more, but you know, more 394 00:24:21,495 --> 00:24:24,735 Speaker 2: painted surfaces, then yeah, you'd rip the tiles off and 395 00:24:24,855 --> 00:24:26,375 Speaker 2: replace the billboard. 396 00:24:26,495 --> 00:24:31,935 Speaker 9: They're royal blue, they're really deep, right. Do you know 397 00:24:32,015 --> 00:24:33,535 Speaker 9: if you can paint tiles? 398 00:24:34,895 --> 00:24:40,495 Speaker 2: You can, but it will always just look like painted tiles, right, 399 00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:47,015 Speaker 2: and that's it's never going to be great, right, And 400 00:24:47,135 --> 00:24:49,455 Speaker 2: I know that our razine experts that are on the show, 401 00:24:49,535 --> 00:24:53,895 Speaker 2: we get that question quite a bit. So yes, you 402 00:24:53,975 --> 00:24:54,935 Speaker 2: can do it, but it. 403 00:24:54,895 --> 00:24:55,615 Speaker 11: Won't look great. 404 00:24:56,855 --> 00:24:59,295 Speaker 9: So that really I just have to live with them. 405 00:25:01,815 --> 00:25:05,495 Speaker 2: It might be that's the case. Yeah, but ye're taking 406 00:25:05,575 --> 00:25:09,015 Speaker 2: the tiles off and reusing the wall board underneath it 407 00:25:09,615 --> 00:25:12,775 Speaker 2: very unlikely it's going to be a cost effective solution. 408 00:25:12,895 --> 00:25:16,455 Speaker 2: I think most likely you're going to end up pulling 409 00:25:16,535 --> 00:25:19,055 Speaker 2: that off and replacing the wall lining so that you 410 00:25:19,095 --> 00:25:20,335 Speaker 2: can get a surface you can paint. 411 00:25:21,375 --> 00:25:25,295 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, very all right. 412 00:25:25,415 --> 00:25:28,375 Speaker 2: Sorry about that. All right, see you then bye bye 413 00:25:28,975 --> 00:25:30,895 Speaker 2: your news talks the'd be it is coming up twenty 414 00:25:30,935 --> 00:25:34,815 Speaker 2: five minutes away from seven. Just a reminder, of course, 415 00:25:34,895 --> 00:25:38,215 Speaker 2: we've got the rugby the All Blacks versus the Pumas 416 00:25:38,335 --> 00:25:43,535 Speaker 2: Lost Boomers live from Argentina kickoff just after nine o'clock, 417 00:25:43,855 --> 00:25:45,935 Speaker 2: so at around eight forty five this morning we will 418 00:25:46,015 --> 00:25:49,095 Speaker 2: hand over to the sports team for their live commentary, 419 00:25:49,135 --> 00:25:51,495 Speaker 2: which means Ruod will be along a bit earlier this 420 00:25:51,655 --> 00:25:53,935 Speaker 2: morning as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 421 00:25:54,055 --> 00:25:55,095 Speaker 2: spear lines await. 422 00:25:55,415 --> 00:25:59,015 Speaker 1: Measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first VI 423 00:25:59,255 --> 00:26:01,895 Speaker 1: worcav the resident builder News Talk sa'd be. 424 00:26:02,735 --> 00:26:06,255 Speaker 2: Oh now feeling bad because I've been on the web 425 00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:09,775 Speaker 2: site to see the proper name for the rule that 426 00:26:09,855 --> 00:26:12,695 Speaker 2: I bought what happens to be a very simple name 427 00:26:12,775 --> 00:26:17,015 Speaker 2: actually a stop rule three hundred milimeters stop rule, which 428 00:26:17,375 --> 00:26:20,575 Speaker 2: I bought the other day. But I must have got 429 00:26:20,615 --> 00:26:23,055 Speaker 2: the last one because they're out of stock now. Anyway, 430 00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:25,495 Speaker 2: shouldn't stop you going and having a look around. Oh 431 00:26:25,535 --> 00:26:28,615 Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Lena, A very good 432 00:26:28,695 --> 00:26:32,175 Speaker 2: morning to you. I love these update stories. What's going on? 433 00:26:32,415 --> 00:26:32,655 Speaker 3: Lina? 434 00:26:33,655 --> 00:26:35,615 Speaker 13: It might be a good morning. But I'm not too 435 00:26:35,695 --> 00:26:37,495 Speaker 13: sure whether my problem is right. 436 00:26:37,975 --> 00:26:38,335 Speaker 8: Go for it. 437 00:26:38,415 --> 00:26:43,335 Speaker 13: It could be a multi problem. Now I live in Theicago, 438 00:26:43,655 --> 00:26:47,055 Speaker 13: and I have a shop in a small shopping center 439 00:26:47,655 --> 00:26:50,895 Speaker 13: which was originally built round about the nineteen sixty four 440 00:26:51,095 --> 00:26:56,175 Speaker 13: sixty six areap. Now I have a corner shop, and 441 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,255 Speaker 13: I had a new roof put on a few years 442 00:26:59,295 --> 00:27:04,575 Speaker 13: ago and a downpipe which went into the grounds right now. 443 00:27:04,895 --> 00:27:07,655 Speaker 13: Over the last few years, my shop next to a 444 00:27:07,855 --> 00:27:12,335 Speaker 13: shop next door for a shop, and then a rather 445 00:27:12,695 --> 00:27:16,735 Speaker 13: very very large chemist shop put new roofing on theirs. 446 00:27:17,735 --> 00:27:22,815 Speaker 13: They then attached their down pipe to my downpipe. Yes, 447 00:27:25,175 --> 00:27:28,935 Speaker 13: every time it rains, I get soaking wet feet getting 448 00:27:28,975 --> 00:27:32,255 Speaker 13: out of my car, and the whole area is all 449 00:27:32,455 --> 00:27:36,695 Speaker 13: full of moths. Now I have approached to the city 450 00:27:36,815 --> 00:27:41,175 Speaker 13: council and they say not their problem. I ask them 451 00:27:43,855 --> 00:27:48,895 Speaker 13: if they had maps for the drainage, and they say 452 00:27:49,015 --> 00:27:54,015 Speaker 13: they don't have. So I want to know whether it's 453 00:27:54,175 --> 00:27:58,375 Speaker 13: legal for some other shop to put attached their down 454 00:27:58,495 --> 00:28:02,255 Speaker 13: pipe to my downpipe and all the resulting problems. 455 00:28:02,775 --> 00:28:05,655 Speaker 2: Look, I think you know I'm pretty much one hundred 456 00:28:05,655 --> 00:28:06,655 Speaker 2: percent confidence on this. 457 00:28:07,135 --> 00:28:07,175 Speaker 13: No. 458 00:28:07,855 --> 00:28:11,135 Speaker 2: Right, it's a simple no. So what I'd suggest you 459 00:28:11,295 --> 00:28:14,415 Speaker 2: do is maybe contact, you know, if you've got some 460 00:28:14,575 --> 00:28:17,255 Speaker 2: contacts with a drain layer, ask them to come and 461 00:28:17,415 --> 00:28:20,615 Speaker 2: visit and sort of give you a basic summary of 462 00:28:20,775 --> 00:28:25,935 Speaker 2: what your rights are. And then in the end Council's 463 00:28:26,095 --> 00:28:29,495 Speaker 2: not going to be interested in this unfortunately, so you'll 464 00:28:29,535 --> 00:28:32,735 Speaker 2: have to take it up with the owner of the 465 00:28:32,815 --> 00:28:33,695 Speaker 2: adjacent building. 466 00:28:35,215 --> 00:28:35,415 Speaker 8: Yeah. 467 00:28:35,415 --> 00:28:38,295 Speaker 13: Well, I have been in contact with the one owner 468 00:28:38,335 --> 00:28:41,855 Speaker 13: Bela is in christ Church. The other one next door, 469 00:28:41,975 --> 00:28:44,895 Speaker 13: it's his. One is a very small building, so it's 470 00:28:44,975 --> 00:28:46,975 Speaker 13: not even as big as way, So who did you 471 00:28:47,095 --> 00:28:48,495 Speaker 13: say that I should contact. 472 00:28:49,175 --> 00:28:51,015 Speaker 2: I suppose what you need is a little bit of evidence, 473 00:28:51,135 --> 00:28:55,415 Speaker 2: right to say, actually, what you've done is, if not illegal, 474 00:28:55,535 --> 00:28:59,575 Speaker 2: then incorrect. And so I wonder whether a local drain 475 00:28:59,655 --> 00:29:02,495 Speaker 2: layer who's familiar with the rules and regulations from the 476 00:29:02,615 --> 00:29:05,855 Speaker 2: council come along look at it, take a couple of photographs, 477 00:29:06,375 --> 00:29:08,935 Speaker 2: end you a quick email going hey, look I've noticed this, 478 00:29:09,375 --> 00:29:12,375 Speaker 2: this work is not as it should be, and then 479 00:29:12,535 --> 00:29:14,735 Speaker 2: that gives you some evidence when you talk to the 480 00:29:14,855 --> 00:29:19,535 Speaker 2: neighbors to go, hey, guys, this is not right. And 481 00:29:19,615 --> 00:29:22,135 Speaker 2: I guess if there's sort of absentee landlords in the 482 00:29:22,175 --> 00:29:24,095 Speaker 2: sense that one of them's in christ Church that sort 483 00:29:24,135 --> 00:29:27,295 Speaker 2: of thing. Maybe they're not aware, but if you can 484 00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:30,015 Speaker 2: send some photographs and a brief summary, I think that 485 00:29:30,135 --> 00:29:33,015 Speaker 2: will give you a little bit more go forward. So 486 00:29:34,015 --> 00:29:37,175 Speaker 2: good luck on that, and please do let me know 487 00:29:37,295 --> 00:29:39,655 Speaker 2: how you get on. I think this. We talked about 488 00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:42,095 Speaker 2: this last week and the plumber or whoever did the 489 00:29:42,175 --> 00:29:46,415 Speaker 2: roofing work and connected the downpipe got our inaugural Cheeky 490 00:29:46,455 --> 00:29:49,175 Speaker 2: Bugger of the Week award for that sort of work. 491 00:29:49,975 --> 00:29:51,975 Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to 492 00:29:52,055 --> 00:29:54,655 Speaker 2: call quick tech. Someone says, hey, I've painted over tiles 493 00:29:54,695 --> 00:29:57,095 Speaker 2: in the bathroom. Worked fine, got the products I used 494 00:29:57,175 --> 00:30:00,215 Speaker 2: from Razine. It does look painted, but it looks better 495 00:30:00,295 --> 00:30:02,215 Speaker 2: than before. So in that sense, you've got to be 496 00:30:02,295 --> 00:30:04,455 Speaker 2: a little bit sort of realistic. Yes, I mean, if 497 00:30:04,495 --> 00:30:06,375 Speaker 2: it's a dark blue tile and you're not really to 498 00:30:06,455 --> 00:30:10,135 Speaker 2: dark blue tiles and you painted them white, then chances 499 00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:12,655 Speaker 2: are they'll look better than blue, but they will just 500 00:30:12,735 --> 00:30:16,695 Speaker 2: look like painted tiles, which could be worthwhile. Oh eight 501 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:21,135 Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty the number. Karen, Good morning, Good morning, 502 00:30:21,175 --> 00:30:22,535 Speaker 2: How I am don't care very well? 503 00:30:24,855 --> 00:30:28,375 Speaker 14: Yeah, So I just bought my first home which was 504 00:30:28,455 --> 00:30:34,455 Speaker 14: pretty moment. So it's a three bedroom, three story townhouse. Yeah, 505 00:30:34,455 --> 00:30:38,015 Speaker 14: and I just wanted your advice with my two bathrooms, 506 00:30:38,015 --> 00:30:39,895 Speaker 14: one on the second floor in my en suite on 507 00:30:40,015 --> 00:30:43,615 Speaker 14: the top floor. I've noticed that the condensation does build 508 00:30:43,695 --> 00:30:47,575 Speaker 14: up under paper towel tests on the extract. The fans 509 00:30:47,855 --> 00:30:49,935 Speaker 14: and they all got out. 510 00:30:50,735 --> 00:30:52,655 Speaker 11: I wanted to see. I wanted to see if. 511 00:30:52,535 --> 00:30:56,495 Speaker 14: You could tell me, like, as would they use a 512 00:30:56,615 --> 00:31:00,855 Speaker 14: more water water, okay, paint in the bathrooms because the 513 00:31:00,935 --> 00:31:02,535 Speaker 14: house is a couple of years old. Is that a 514 00:31:02,615 --> 00:31:06,855 Speaker 14: regulation or should I be worried that I can see drips? Oh? 515 00:31:07,095 --> 00:31:10,215 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. 516 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,375 Speaker 2: So there will still be a bit of what they 517 00:31:12,455 --> 00:31:15,655 Speaker 2: call surfactant leeching. So when there's a lot of moisture 518 00:31:15,735 --> 00:31:18,535 Speaker 2: in there, you'll see it running down the walls. I 519 00:31:18,695 --> 00:31:22,295 Speaker 2: tell you what you know. I can imagine first home buyer, congratulations, 520 00:31:22,695 --> 00:31:25,295 Speaker 2: you're probably a bit strapped for cash because you've tipped 521 00:31:25,295 --> 00:31:29,015 Speaker 2: everything you've got into getting the house. But if it's 522 00:31:29,255 --> 00:31:33,815 Speaker 2: if it's a relatively new house with some hopefully well 523 00:31:33,895 --> 00:31:37,695 Speaker 2: it'll have adequate but not great extraction, but it will 524 00:31:37,775 --> 00:31:42,215 Speaker 2: have extraction in both of those bathrooms, won't it. Yeah, yeah, 525 00:31:42,575 --> 00:31:45,295 Speaker 2: and that definitely goes to outside. 526 00:31:47,095 --> 00:31:50,295 Speaker 14: Yep, yep, and yeah, and I made sure that both 527 00:31:50,335 --> 00:31:53,175 Speaker 14: the fans like you put the pizza toilet out the. 528 00:31:54,735 --> 00:31:59,095 Speaker 2: Great Okay, I suppose that one option would be is 529 00:31:59,295 --> 00:32:06,575 Speaker 2: to I'm guessing that is the fan on its own switch. Yeah, yeah, okay, 530 00:32:06,935 --> 00:32:10,455 Speaker 2: So you can get an electrician to install a run 531 00:32:10,535 --> 00:32:13,615 Speaker 2: on timer. So let's say, as most of us do, 532 00:32:14,215 --> 00:32:16,575 Speaker 2: get up in the morning, jump in the shower, rush 533 00:32:16,655 --> 00:32:18,695 Speaker 2: off to work, and then you know, as soon as 534 00:32:18,735 --> 00:32:20,495 Speaker 2: we've finished in the shower, we turn the lights off, 535 00:32:20,575 --> 00:32:22,655 Speaker 2: turn the fan off, and go. But there's still quite 536 00:32:22,655 --> 00:32:25,215 Speaker 2: a lot of moisture in there. So one option is 537 00:32:25,295 --> 00:32:27,855 Speaker 2: to put in a run on timer that will keep 538 00:32:28,055 --> 00:32:30,655 Speaker 2: that fan running, let's say, for another ten minutes or so, 539 00:32:30,895 --> 00:32:33,055 Speaker 2: which is going to be a benefit. The other thing, 540 00:32:33,175 --> 00:32:35,375 Speaker 2: and I picked one up on Friday and I'm putting 541 00:32:35,415 --> 00:32:37,655 Speaker 2: it into a rental property that I look after on 542 00:32:37,935 --> 00:32:42,335 Speaker 2: Tuesday is a fan by a company called Simmis SIMX, 543 00:32:43,015 --> 00:32:46,575 Speaker 2: and it's a constant flow fan. So I would ditch 544 00:32:46,695 --> 00:32:50,055 Speaker 2: the old extractor replace it with this new one. And 545 00:32:50,215 --> 00:32:53,415 Speaker 2: what it does is it senses when there's humidity and 546 00:32:53,655 --> 00:32:57,655 Speaker 2: ramps up to full extraction. But then for the rep 547 00:32:57,815 --> 00:32:59,895 Speaker 2: for the full twenty four hours of a day, it 548 00:33:00,055 --> 00:33:05,375 Speaker 2: will run constantly just drawing moisture and air out of 549 00:33:05,495 --> 00:33:08,775 Speaker 2: that space. So you know, if yours is a relatively 550 00:33:08,895 --> 00:33:11,455 Speaker 2: new build it's got lots of insulation, it's got reasonable 551 00:33:11,535 --> 00:33:15,695 Speaker 2: quality joinery, it's probably not thermly broken aluminium. So that's 552 00:33:15,695 --> 00:33:17,815 Speaker 2: where you're getting a little bit of condensation as well. 553 00:33:18,975 --> 00:33:22,455 Speaker 2: But because our buildings are becoming more and more air tight, 554 00:33:22,655 --> 00:33:25,975 Speaker 2: or moving towards air tightness, we're not getting that ventilation 555 00:33:26,175 --> 00:33:28,375 Speaker 2: through our houses. They tend to get locked up and 556 00:33:28,455 --> 00:33:32,095 Speaker 2: they tend to start sweating from the inside. And so 557 00:33:32,255 --> 00:33:34,775 Speaker 2: there's lots and lots of discussion and sort of building 558 00:33:34,855 --> 00:33:39,775 Speaker 2: science circles at the moment around it's a bit over dramatic, 559 00:33:39,895 --> 00:33:42,815 Speaker 2: but you know, leaky buildings two point zero. You know, 560 00:33:43,535 --> 00:33:46,135 Speaker 2: as we've moved towards air tightness, which is a good thing, 561 00:33:46,295 --> 00:33:48,815 Speaker 2: a very very good thing, we need to balance that 562 00:33:48,975 --> 00:33:51,975 Speaker 2: with some ventilation and extraction, and we haven't that, we 563 00:33:52,055 --> 00:33:55,135 Speaker 2: haven't caught up with that. So my suggestion would be 564 00:33:55,255 --> 00:33:58,895 Speaker 2: to have a look for a constant flow fan and 565 00:33:59,695 --> 00:34:03,095 Speaker 2: put the money into taking out both of those extractors 566 00:34:03,175 --> 00:34:06,495 Speaker 2: and both bathrooms and replacing them with constant flow extra action. 567 00:34:08,415 --> 00:34:11,215 Speaker 14: Okay, all right, just right, thank you very much. 568 00:34:11,375 --> 00:34:13,575 Speaker 2: Or at the very least a run on timer that 569 00:34:13,695 --> 00:34:16,175 Speaker 2: allows it to run for longer to extract more of 570 00:34:16,215 --> 00:34:21,215 Speaker 2: that moistire. Okay, thank you, have a look online. Cheers, buddy, 571 00:34:21,295 --> 00:34:23,455 Speaker 2: all the best, Bob. I think your news talk said be. 572 00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,575 Speaker 2: We need to take another break. Then we'll be back 573 00:34:25,615 --> 00:34:26,655 Speaker 2: with Willie after. 574 00:34:26,535 --> 00:34:30,055 Speaker 1: The break doing other house sorting the garden. Asked Pete 575 00:34:30,095 --> 00:34:35,095 Speaker 1: for a hand the resident builder with Peter wolfkeab call eighty. 576 00:34:35,255 --> 00:34:36,095 Speaker 1: News talks'd be. 577 00:34:36,935 --> 00:34:39,015 Speaker 2: Indeed news talks. He'd be coming up ten minutes away 578 00:34:39,055 --> 00:34:41,055 Speaker 2: from seven, of course news sport, and we're the top 579 00:34:41,095 --> 00:34:43,335 Speaker 2: of the hour at seven. Might have time for one 580 00:34:43,375 --> 00:34:48,135 Speaker 2: more call as well, Willy, good morning, good morning, very 581 00:34:48,215 --> 00:34:52,735 Speaker 2: well yourself. Yeah, not too that, what's going on. 582 00:34:52,855 --> 00:34:57,615 Speaker 8: I bought a house in twenty nineteen. I've been looking 583 00:34:57,695 --> 00:35:03,415 Speaker 8: for two years, books Bay. I bought a founder house 584 00:35:04,055 --> 00:35:06,055 Speaker 8: for two years and I thought, yop, this is exactly 585 00:35:06,135 --> 00:35:06,735 Speaker 8: what I want. 586 00:35:07,415 --> 00:35:07,975 Speaker 11: I bought it. 587 00:35:08,655 --> 00:35:10,935 Speaker 8: I knew there was a lot of people interested, so 588 00:35:11,095 --> 00:35:16,055 Speaker 8: I bought it outright without any consent, any builders reports 589 00:35:16,135 --> 00:35:18,295 Speaker 8: or anything else. I thought, if there's anything there, I'm 590 00:35:18,375 --> 00:35:23,215 Speaker 8: sure I can fix it. So anyway, I down the 591 00:35:23,295 --> 00:35:26,015 Speaker 8: line of it. I've put a garage in the done 592 00:35:26,055 --> 00:35:28,255 Speaker 8: other consents, and I went into the council with the 593 00:35:28,295 --> 00:35:33,055 Speaker 8: other data, play the final consent and asked if they 594 00:35:33,175 --> 00:35:36,295 Speaker 8: had any the original plans of the house. Yes, they 595 00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:38,295 Speaker 8: had the original plans. I said, oh, could I have 596 00:35:38,495 --> 00:35:40,495 Speaker 8: a copy of them? Yes, I don't have a copy 597 00:35:40,535 --> 00:35:42,855 Speaker 8: of them. And I had a look and I said, oh. 598 00:35:43,695 --> 00:35:46,295 Speaker 8: They said what's up? And I should there's a change. 599 00:35:46,295 --> 00:35:49,295 Speaker 8: I said yes with the outside. No to the inside, 600 00:35:51,655 --> 00:35:55,575 Speaker 8: and obviously I've had the place ensured, not knowing that 601 00:35:55,735 --> 00:35:58,775 Speaker 8: there was no consent or anything else to the changes. 602 00:35:59,655 --> 00:36:04,135 Speaker 8: There is a beam. They've removed a wall inside and 603 00:36:04,295 --> 00:36:07,655 Speaker 8: put it open plan, which is great, but there is 604 00:36:07,775 --> 00:36:09,415 Speaker 8: no consent for the change. 605 00:36:09,895 --> 00:36:10,055 Speaker 3: Right. 606 00:36:11,095 --> 00:36:14,855 Speaker 8: The council said they won't do anything about it. It's 607 00:36:15,055 --> 00:36:20,015 Speaker 8: not their problem. Yeah, it's more my problem when I 608 00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:24,655 Speaker 8: come to sell it, if someone decides to do some diligence. 609 00:36:24,775 --> 00:36:30,295 Speaker 8: And yeah, and also I also had to pay my insurance, 610 00:36:31,215 --> 00:36:34,215 Speaker 8: and I know the insurance lady, and I said to her, Okay, 611 00:36:34,375 --> 00:36:38,455 Speaker 8: now I put a spanner in the works here. What 612 00:36:38,695 --> 00:36:41,495 Speaker 8: if there's something in the house that has not been 613 00:36:43,015 --> 00:36:45,815 Speaker 8: And she said, well, previously, if you hadn't told me 614 00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:48,255 Speaker 8: and you didn't know, nothing would happen. But now that 615 00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:51,255 Speaker 8: you know, we've got to do something about it. So 616 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,535 Speaker 8: it's my past place is still insure. But I've got 617 00:36:53,615 --> 00:36:57,055 Speaker 8: to find someone that can give me a report to 618 00:36:57,175 --> 00:37:01,055 Speaker 8: say that the theme is legal. Yes, where would I go? 619 00:37:01,455 --> 00:37:08,175 Speaker 2: Okay, you're going you going to probably need In fact, 620 00:37:08,455 --> 00:37:11,255 Speaker 2: I'm almost a hundred percent sure. So in terms of 621 00:37:11,615 --> 00:37:14,895 Speaker 2: getting someone with the right credentials to prepare a report 622 00:37:14,975 --> 00:37:18,255 Speaker 2: that will be acceptable to counsel, it will need to 623 00:37:18,335 --> 00:37:21,375 Speaker 2: be someone like a building survey, right, So if you 624 00:37:21,535 --> 00:37:24,495 Speaker 2: go to building survey dot org dot nz I think 625 00:37:24,535 --> 00:37:27,495 Speaker 2: it is, or just search for n z ibs SO 626 00:37:27,655 --> 00:37:34,215 Speaker 2: the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys ibs SO Institute 627 00:37:34,255 --> 00:37:38,575 Speaker 2: of New Zealand, Institute of Building Surveys. They and have 628 00:37:38,695 --> 00:37:42,055 Speaker 2: a look through that they'll find there's a tab there 629 00:37:42,095 --> 00:37:46,135 Speaker 2: that goes, you know, find a local building survey. You'll 630 00:37:46,215 --> 00:37:48,815 Speaker 2: find someone in the Bay of Plenty. In fact, I 631 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:51,735 Speaker 2: know some people who work in that area because they're 632 00:37:51,775 --> 00:37:57,215 Speaker 2: on the executive. Oh sorry, hawks Bay, same thing. So 633 00:37:57,375 --> 00:38:00,815 Speaker 2: there'll be people there. Some of them will sort of 634 00:38:01,215 --> 00:38:04,735 Speaker 2: note what their specialty is, and so what you'll be 635 00:38:04,815 --> 00:38:09,655 Speaker 2: looking for is someone who who does certificate of acceptance. Right, 636 00:38:11,815 --> 00:38:16,055 Speaker 2: so someone will come along, they'll inspect the building. You 637 00:38:16,295 --> 00:38:22,415 Speaker 2: may have to do some destructive testing, like to like 638 00:38:22,575 --> 00:38:25,895 Speaker 2: can you tell what size and type of beam that's 639 00:38:25,935 --> 00:38:29,975 Speaker 2: been installed? You know, is it a steel beam, is 640 00:38:30,015 --> 00:38:32,575 Speaker 2: it a glue lamb beam? Is it two types of 641 00:38:32,615 --> 00:38:33,135 Speaker 2: beams with a. 642 00:38:33,135 --> 00:38:36,775 Speaker 11: Flip the roof? 643 00:38:37,415 --> 00:38:39,855 Speaker 2: Then that's fantastic. If you can do that, then you 644 00:38:39,895 --> 00:38:42,535 Speaker 2: can see what type of beam, what the span is, 645 00:38:42,615 --> 00:38:45,135 Speaker 2: what the load might be, how it's braced, has it 646 00:38:45,215 --> 00:38:48,695 Speaker 2: impacted on the total bracing elements for the wall. Prepare 647 00:38:48,775 --> 00:38:53,495 Speaker 2: a summary, including an updated floor plan and maybe a 648 00:38:53,535 --> 00:38:56,615 Speaker 2: cross section of that area, present that to council and 649 00:38:57,575 --> 00:39:01,415 Speaker 2: request a certificate of acceptance. And if the building surveyor 650 00:39:01,895 --> 00:39:05,415 Speaker 2: prepares that for you, council typically will just rub a 651 00:39:05,455 --> 00:39:07,695 Speaker 2: stamp it right, They'll make it and then they'll go 652 00:39:08,135 --> 00:39:11,415 Speaker 2: and do that, and then that brings all of your 653 00:39:11,455 --> 00:39:16,375 Speaker 2: building because you've had subsequent building consents issued for your property. 654 00:39:17,455 --> 00:39:20,535 Speaker 2: That what that certificate of acceptance gets attached to the 655 00:39:20,575 --> 00:39:23,455 Speaker 2: property file and then anyone coming to look at it 656 00:39:23,615 --> 00:39:29,895 Speaker 2: realizes that basically you've solved the problem. Right, it won't 657 00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:37,175 Speaker 2: be an expensive process. Okay, right, you know, if I. 658 00:39:37,255 --> 00:39:39,735 Speaker 8: Know an engineer, could I get an engineer to do it? 659 00:39:41,095 --> 00:39:44,615 Speaker 2: Yes, an engineer could prepare a report. That still need 660 00:39:44,775 --> 00:39:48,135 Speaker 2: you'd still need to get plans done, but yes, an engineer. 661 00:39:49,055 --> 00:39:51,015 Speaker 8: I actually do a floor plan and took it to 662 00:39:51,135 --> 00:39:54,655 Speaker 8: the insurance to show them where they because I've done 663 00:39:54,735 --> 00:39:56,775 Speaker 8: flaw plans before, so I've done that. 664 00:39:57,215 --> 00:40:01,575 Speaker 2: Look, you know, it's it's going to counsel with professional 665 00:40:01,735 --> 00:40:06,175 Speaker 2: advice from someone who has the qualifications to give prof 666 00:40:06,335 --> 00:40:10,335 Speaker 2: national advice to go here. You know, like I didn't 667 00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:13,175 Speaker 2: do this work. I've bought the property. I didn't realize 668 00:40:13,215 --> 00:40:16,015 Speaker 2: that it had been done. Now I'm fixing the problem. 669 00:40:16,415 --> 00:40:19,415 Speaker 2: And here's the evidence to say that the work that's 670 00:40:19,455 --> 00:40:21,895 Speaker 2: being done complies with the Building Act and with the 671 00:40:21,935 --> 00:40:26,375 Speaker 2: Building Code and all with the building code, and here's 672 00:40:26,495 --> 00:40:30,375 Speaker 2: the evidence for it. So if your engineer can provide 673 00:40:30,375 --> 00:40:31,615 Speaker 2: that evidence, that's fantastic. 674 00:40:32,615 --> 00:40:35,615 Speaker 8: Okay, so awesome, thank you very much. 675 00:40:36,935 --> 00:40:39,495 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, you know, I get it. Not everyone 676 00:40:39,735 --> 00:40:43,255 Speaker 2: gets a pre purchase inspection. But I and I guess 677 00:40:43,295 --> 00:40:45,855 Speaker 2: it's the sort of thing that even your lawyer doing 678 00:40:46,015 --> 00:40:51,615 Speaker 2: the conveyancing might not have been aware of, because they 679 00:40:51,695 --> 00:40:54,055 Speaker 2: may not have looked at the original plans and asked 680 00:40:54,095 --> 00:40:57,095 Speaker 2: you if the plans line up with what's there at 681 00:40:57,095 --> 00:40:57,455 Speaker 2: the moment. 682 00:40:58,615 --> 00:41:01,615 Speaker 8: No, that's right, I don't know. Even the real estate 683 00:41:01,695 --> 00:41:08,295 Speaker 8: agent wouldn't have right. Yeah, I mean, I love my 684 00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:10,855 Speaker 8: house and I enjoy living here, so I'll I'll just 685 00:41:10,935 --> 00:41:15,015 Speaker 8: sort it all and look otherwise I'll just start here 686 00:41:15,095 --> 00:41:15,655 Speaker 8: and someone else. 687 00:41:16,695 --> 00:41:16,815 Speaker 13: Oh. 688 00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:18,975 Speaker 2: Look, I think if you can get it sorted out, 689 00:41:19,135 --> 00:41:22,855 Speaker 2: it look at it as an investment in the value 690 00:41:22,895 --> 00:41:24,775 Speaker 2: of your home, because when you go to sell it 691 00:41:25,015 --> 00:41:27,695 Speaker 2: and you don't have that problem, no one's going to 692 00:41:27,815 --> 00:41:30,295 Speaker 2: use that problem to drive the price down. Good luck 693 00:41:30,455 --> 00:41:32,175 Speaker 2: and all the very best. Lovely chatting with you this 694 00:41:32,335 --> 00:41:35,135 Speaker 2: morning radio. We're right on top of news, top of 695 00:41:35,175 --> 00:41:37,295 Speaker 2: the hour at seven o'clock if you'd like to join 696 00:41:37,375 --> 00:41:38,935 Speaker 2: us after the break is a call now, oh eight 697 00:41:39,055 --> 00:41:40,135 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. 698 00:41:42,695 --> 00:41:45,575 Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering 699 00:41:45,615 --> 00:41:47,735 Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give a feeder, 700 00:41:47,815 --> 00:41:52,815 Speaker 1: Wolf Cap call on eighty the resident builder on Youth Dogs' 701 00:41:52,895 --> 00:41:53,615 Speaker 1: b Well. 702 00:41:53,655 --> 00:41:55,455 Speaker 2: Very good morning, welcome back to the show. It is 703 00:41:55,815 --> 00:41:59,455 Speaker 2: six minutes after seven. Kind of a miserable on nighte 704 00:41:59,575 --> 00:42:02,735 Speaker 2: wasn't it. I had plans to do outdoor work yesterday, 705 00:42:02,935 --> 00:42:05,255 Speaker 2: which I still got done. Actually, just put a raincoat 706 00:42:05,295 --> 00:42:08,135 Speaker 2: on it. Only rain folks. If you've got to get 707 00:42:08,175 --> 00:42:10,575 Speaker 2: it done, just get it done. Oh eight hundred eighty 708 00:42:10,655 --> 00:42:14,015 Speaker 2: ten eighty. Let's rip into your calls and questions if 709 00:42:14,135 --> 00:42:20,255 Speaker 2: you've got Sorry, I'm just distracted by a text that's 710 00:42:20,295 --> 00:42:24,655 Speaker 2: come through when reporting on European soccer. Why on earth 711 00:42:24,695 --> 00:42:26,855 Speaker 2: does news talks that'd be only talk about the English sides? 712 00:42:26,975 --> 00:42:29,215 Speaker 2: Not true? Every now and then they'll talk about other 713 00:42:29,255 --> 00:42:34,295 Speaker 2: European sides as well. Yes, football's back, Yeah right, let's 714 00:42:34,335 --> 00:42:36,775 Speaker 2: get into it. Let's talk all things building construction. Oh 715 00:42:36,855 --> 00:42:39,295 Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 716 00:42:39,415 --> 00:42:43,015 Speaker 2: Here's an interesting one as well. Just off our call 717 00:42:43,175 --> 00:42:47,615 Speaker 2: with Willie just before the break. Hey, Pete, the person 718 00:42:47,695 --> 00:42:50,255 Speaker 2: with the unconsented work should speak with her lawyer about 719 00:42:50,295 --> 00:42:52,455 Speaker 2: recovering the costs from the people she bought it off. 720 00:42:52,495 --> 00:42:56,655 Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, the standard real estate contract used throughout 721 00:42:56,695 --> 00:42:59,815 Speaker 2: New Zealand contains vendor warranties that if they carried out 722 00:42:59,895 --> 00:43:03,095 Speaker 2: any building work, they did so in accordance with the 723 00:43:03,135 --> 00:43:06,935 Speaker 2: Building Act and local council requirements, she may be able 724 00:43:07,015 --> 00:43:09,335 Speaker 2: to recover the cost of complying, even though it is 725 00:43:09,615 --> 00:43:12,495 Speaker 2: through the Disputes Tribunal for a breach of contract. Thank 726 00:43:12,495 --> 00:43:15,415 Speaker 2: you very much for pointing that out, Jeff, that's really helpful. 727 00:43:16,095 --> 00:43:18,255 Speaker 2: So Willy, if you're listening, maybe it is worth a 728 00:43:18,295 --> 00:43:21,575 Speaker 2: conversation with your lawyer to go, Hey, in this instance, 729 00:43:21,815 --> 00:43:25,455 Speaker 2: if work was done that everybody knows needs a consent 730 00:43:25,655 --> 00:43:29,175 Speaker 2: and was done without it, and that wasn't revealed in 731 00:43:29,295 --> 00:43:32,455 Speaker 2: the sale and purchase agreement, could you go back to them? 732 00:43:32,655 --> 00:43:35,655 Speaker 2: Maybe the time is too much. Time has passed, but hey, 733 00:43:35,695 --> 00:43:39,055 Speaker 2: look it's worth inquiring, absolutely to be fair. When I 734 00:43:39,095 --> 00:43:42,815 Speaker 2: first started reading that text, I was assuming that the 735 00:43:42,895 --> 00:43:45,935 Speaker 2: text was going to suggest that Willie goes back to 736 00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:48,415 Speaker 2: her lawyer and goes, how come you didn't pick that up. 737 00:43:50,775 --> 00:43:53,855 Speaker 2: I'm aware of one case where someone who purchased land 738 00:43:54,215 --> 00:43:56,295 Speaker 2: that turned out to be less than what they thought 739 00:43:56,375 --> 00:44:00,055 Speaker 2: they were buying. Right, there was a mistake in the 740 00:44:00,135 --> 00:44:03,535 Speaker 2: listening and both the real estate agent and the lawyer 741 00:44:04,575 --> 00:44:08,535 Speaker 2: ended up paying some compensation to the purchaser when they 742 00:44:08,695 --> 00:44:11,095 Speaker 2: realized that where they thought they could get three houses 743 00:44:11,135 --> 00:44:13,135 Speaker 2: on the development site, they could only get two. That 744 00:44:13,215 --> 00:44:15,415 Speaker 2: makes quite a big difference. Oh, eight hundred and eighty 745 00:44:15,495 --> 00:44:18,095 Speaker 2: ten eighty that number to call. Good morning, Peat Wolf 746 00:44:18,175 --> 00:44:20,215 Speaker 2: Camp here and Gavin, Good morning to you. 747 00:44:21,535 --> 00:44:22,095 Speaker 15: Good morning. 748 00:44:22,255 --> 00:44:26,895 Speaker 10: Hey there, Hey, I've just got some tiles laid yesterday 749 00:44:27,135 --> 00:44:32,255 Speaker 10: in my bathroom. This is going around the bath and vanity. 750 00:44:34,375 --> 00:44:38,255 Speaker 11: Today. I was hoping to nail some skirting on the 751 00:44:38,295 --> 00:44:39,135 Speaker 11: opposite wall. 752 00:44:39,775 --> 00:44:43,815 Speaker 2: Is it to ah, you're worried about sort of rumbling 753 00:44:43,895 --> 00:44:44,215 Speaker 2: them off? 754 00:44:45,175 --> 00:44:45,375 Speaker 3: Yeah? 755 00:44:48,415 --> 00:44:51,015 Speaker 2: Are you going old school with your nailing, as in 756 00:44:51,375 --> 00:44:58,055 Speaker 2: a hammer and a nail? Wow? Awesome? No, Look now 757 00:44:59,175 --> 00:45:01,775 Speaker 2: how we used to do it for forever, wasn't it 758 00:45:02,495 --> 00:45:08,695 Speaker 2: until these flash hairy nail guns came along? Oh no, 759 00:45:08,855 --> 00:45:10,175 Speaker 2: I think you'd probably be okay. 760 00:45:10,335 --> 00:45:14,015 Speaker 11: You know, I'll just leave it to the later part 761 00:45:14,095 --> 00:45:14,495 Speaker 11: of the day. 762 00:45:15,135 --> 00:45:20,255 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, hours, I think so. I mean, look, 763 00:45:21,215 --> 00:45:23,615 Speaker 2: have the tiles been grouted yet? No, if they were, 764 00:45:23,895 --> 00:45:25,735 Speaker 2: if they were stuck on yesterday. 765 00:45:26,255 --> 00:45:30,335 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it's an ultramestic. 766 00:45:31,495 --> 00:45:31,815 Speaker 13: Glue. 767 00:45:32,215 --> 00:45:34,935 Speaker 10: So I was looking at the label, and it didn't 768 00:45:35,015 --> 00:45:36,375 Speaker 10: have any indication. 769 00:45:36,495 --> 00:45:43,975 Speaker 2: Of drying time or the curing time. M M. Look, 770 00:45:44,055 --> 00:45:46,895 Speaker 2: I think it'd be relatively low risk, right, I mean, 771 00:45:46,975 --> 00:45:49,575 Speaker 2: it's not if you said to me, I want to 772 00:45:49,935 --> 00:45:52,575 Speaker 2: frame up a wall adjacent it or something like that. 773 00:45:52,815 --> 00:45:56,175 Speaker 2: That's a lot more vibration, isn't it. I think if 774 00:45:56,415 --> 00:45:59,015 Speaker 2: you know, if it was me, i'd probably get on 775 00:45:59,175 --> 00:46:05,415 Speaker 2: do the scoutings as well. Yeah, yep, yeah, a simple one. 776 00:46:06,575 --> 00:46:08,655 Speaker 2: Just don't don't start to really. I know it's ten 777 00:46:08,735 --> 00:46:11,455 Speaker 2: past seven, but you know, swing and a hammer at 778 00:46:11,495 --> 00:46:16,535 Speaker 2: this hour of the morning's probably just I'd have a breakfast, 779 00:46:16,615 --> 00:46:18,655 Speaker 2: maybe listening to the rugby, and then get started. 780 00:46:19,775 --> 00:46:22,815 Speaker 11: Yea, yeah, I got some tight time frames. 781 00:46:23,015 --> 00:46:26,135 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you 782 00:46:26,855 --> 00:46:30,215 Speaker 2: fair enough to look just be cautious, but I'm sure 783 00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:35,375 Speaker 2: you'd be fine to take care. I love this text. 784 00:46:35,455 --> 00:46:37,215 Speaker 2: How do you peak? No such thing as bad whether 785 00:46:37,255 --> 00:46:39,855 Speaker 2: you've just got the wrong jacket, been my philosophy for years. 786 00:46:39,935 --> 00:46:43,095 Speaker 2: Also quite funny you point out the apprentice, point out 787 00:46:43,215 --> 00:46:50,135 Speaker 2: to the apprentice they're actually born waterproof. Oh that's quite good. Actually, 788 00:46:50,135 --> 00:46:52,455 Speaker 2: I quite like that, Chris. Thank you. It makes me laugh, 789 00:46:52,535 --> 00:46:55,335 Speaker 2: have a good day and to you too, Chris. Hey, Look, 790 00:46:55,415 --> 00:46:58,015 Speaker 2: actually I did wear a jacket yesterday. That was that 791 00:46:58,175 --> 00:47:01,095 Speaker 2: was absolutely fine. It wasn't terribly rainy. And I tell 792 00:47:01,095 --> 00:47:03,095 Speaker 2: you what I don't like about working in the rain 793 00:47:03,335 --> 00:47:07,415 Speaker 2: is ruining you gear, right, That's pretty much which my 794 00:47:07,735 --> 00:47:09,295 Speaker 2: kind of cut off point. If I have to do 795 00:47:09,455 --> 00:47:13,335 Speaker 2: something where, you know, having a drop saw sitting out 796 00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:18,935 Speaker 2: in the rain, I can't stand that. I just don't 797 00:47:18,935 --> 00:47:21,535 Speaker 2: want to do it, or table saws and that sort 798 00:47:21,535 --> 00:47:24,535 Speaker 2: of thing. If it's something like yesterday, which was basically 799 00:47:24,695 --> 00:47:27,255 Speaker 2: just pulling apart some pipe and clip scaffolding that I 800 00:47:27,535 --> 00:47:30,935 Speaker 2: put up. Before everybody freaks out about me doing my 801 00:47:31,015 --> 00:47:33,855 Speaker 2: own scaffolding, it was very load of the ground. It 802 00:47:33,935 --> 00:47:36,415 Speaker 2: was just a platform that allowed me to get to 803 00:47:36,495 --> 00:47:39,215 Speaker 2: where I needed to get to replace all the ballasters 804 00:47:39,215 --> 00:47:41,655 Speaker 2: at the back of the deck. So I built it. 805 00:47:41,815 --> 00:47:43,575 Speaker 2: It was loaded the ground. It was just a really 806 00:47:43,655 --> 00:47:46,975 Speaker 2: sensible and easy way of being able to get access, 807 00:47:47,095 --> 00:47:51,255 Speaker 2: which actually made the whole job so much easier. So 808 00:47:51,455 --> 00:47:53,335 Speaker 2: rather than having to because it was over the top 809 00:47:53,375 --> 00:47:55,655 Speaker 2: of a garden, so I basically built a platform over 810 00:47:55,695 --> 00:47:57,815 Speaker 2: the top of the garden, which allowed me to wander 811 00:47:57,895 --> 00:47:59,975 Speaker 2: up and down there and work on the handrails and 812 00:48:00,375 --> 00:48:02,655 Speaker 2: the decking boards when I needed to. It was great. 813 00:48:03,615 --> 00:48:07,495 Speaker 2: Wasn't so great for the lavenders. I've basically killed those. 814 00:48:07,615 --> 00:48:10,215 Speaker 2: But back to the point about working in their own 815 00:48:11,295 --> 00:48:13,735 Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to work in the rain. And 816 00:48:13,815 --> 00:48:19,495 Speaker 2: you're right about the jackets. Tell you what, just quickly, 817 00:48:19,815 --> 00:48:22,935 Speaker 2: I cast your mind back, if you're in the Auckland 818 00:48:22,975 --> 00:48:26,415 Speaker 2: area to the January twenty third floods of twenty twenty 819 00:48:26,455 --> 00:48:30,815 Speaker 2: three or January twenty twenty three floods. Right, We as 820 00:48:30,855 --> 00:48:33,415 Speaker 2: a family had decided to go on the night when 821 00:48:33,455 --> 00:48:35,095 Speaker 2: they didn't tell us that we were going to have 822 00:48:35,455 --> 00:48:38,095 Speaker 2: one of the biggest storms we've ever had to the 823 00:48:38,175 --> 00:48:42,975 Speaker 2: Elton John concert. So we left home, hopped on the ferry, 824 00:48:43,055 --> 00:48:45,415 Speaker 2: came across the town and got picked up by another 825 00:48:45,495 --> 00:48:48,815 Speaker 2: family member, drove out to Mount Smart Stadium, went into 826 00:48:48,855 --> 00:48:52,695 Speaker 2: the stadium. Standing in the stadium, we'd got this is 827 00:48:52,775 --> 00:48:55,175 Speaker 2: the concert that we'd waited two years for because he 828 00:48:55,255 --> 00:48:58,815 Speaker 2: got sick last time he was here. And then we're 829 00:48:58,815 --> 00:49:02,775 Speaker 2: standing at Mount Smart Stadium, will go Media Stadium, it's called. 830 00:49:02,815 --> 00:49:07,095 Speaker 2: Now in the pouring rain and a couple of inches 831 00:49:07,135 --> 00:49:10,335 Speaker 2: of water on the playing field with this decking over 832 00:49:10,415 --> 00:49:13,135 Speaker 2: the top of it. And then guy comes out and goes, oh, look, hey, 833 00:49:13,215 --> 00:49:14,975 Speaker 2: by the way, we've been told to cancel a concert. 834 00:49:15,015 --> 00:49:17,975 Speaker 2: You've all got to go home. Carnage, right, what a 835 00:49:18,415 --> 00:49:21,335 Speaker 2: nightmare of a day. Only good thing about it was 836 00:49:21,655 --> 00:49:25,495 Speaker 2: I was wearing a Cactus rain coat. Cactus is a 837 00:49:25,535 --> 00:49:28,375 Speaker 2: New Zealand brand. They make them in christ Church. And 838 00:49:28,695 --> 00:49:30,575 Speaker 2: so for all of that rain, for all of the 839 00:49:30,655 --> 00:49:32,775 Speaker 2: walking around, and the day just got worse and worse 840 00:49:32,815 --> 00:49:35,135 Speaker 2: and worse. Right, people lost their keys. We had to 841 00:49:35,175 --> 00:49:37,335 Speaker 2: wander around looking for keys and the pouring. It was 842 00:49:37,375 --> 00:49:41,615 Speaker 2: a disastrous night. Got home eventually at about I don't know, 843 00:49:41,735 --> 00:49:45,055 Speaker 2: midnight or something like that. Bone dry. Thank you very much. 844 00:49:46,855 --> 00:49:49,175 Speaker 2: So you're right, there's no such thing as bad weather. 845 00:49:49,415 --> 00:49:52,655 Speaker 2: You've just got the wrong jacket. I hadn't wileheartedly agree 846 00:49:52,695 --> 00:49:55,535 Speaker 2: with you, Chris, And I love that, you know, pointing 847 00:49:55,535 --> 00:49:57,615 Speaker 2: out to the apprentice that they're actually born water fruit, 848 00:49:58,095 --> 00:50:01,295 Speaker 2: or as my mum would say, and still does, you're 849 00:50:01,335 --> 00:50:08,815 Speaker 2: not made of sugar. I agree. Good morning, Good morning, 850 00:50:08,895 --> 00:50:10,935 Speaker 2: How are you willing very well? Thank you? How can 851 00:50:10,975 --> 00:50:11,255 Speaker 2: I help? 852 00:50:11,335 --> 00:50:14,415 Speaker 10: Good? Hey, we were just we were just talking earlier 853 00:50:14,415 --> 00:50:15,935 Speaker 10: and I only picked up the tail the end of 854 00:50:15,975 --> 00:50:20,935 Speaker 10: it about the disclosure of putting when you when you 855 00:50:21,015 --> 00:50:23,535 Speaker 10: put your property on the market, and maybe having done 856 00:50:23,655 --> 00:50:24,615 Speaker 10: some of the why. 857 00:50:24,615 --> 00:50:25,135 Speaker 4: Work on it. 858 00:50:25,695 --> 00:50:30,295 Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, we're we we only just last week that 859 00:50:30,455 --> 00:50:32,655 Speaker 10: had been through the same thing, but with our properly 860 00:50:32,695 --> 00:50:35,775 Speaker 10: going on the market, and we put a number of 861 00:50:35,935 --> 00:50:42,255 Speaker 10: disclosures together, yes, for the sale, so that the lights 862 00:50:42,295 --> 00:50:44,655 Speaker 10: of what we've done is that we have we have 863 00:50:45,615 --> 00:50:48,895 Speaker 10: constructed or reconstructed the tail the end of our house 864 00:50:48,975 --> 00:50:52,495 Speaker 10: into a studio and having been in a very fortunate 865 00:50:52,615 --> 00:50:55,455 Speaker 10: situation where the studio once upon a time was a flat. 866 00:50:56,735 --> 00:50:59,535 Speaker 10: So when we came to when we came to with 867 00:50:59,655 --> 00:51:02,455 Speaker 10: the real estate agent of how we go about this, 868 00:51:02,775 --> 00:51:06,255 Speaker 10: and we've got a very comprehensive folder of photos. 869 00:51:05,775 --> 00:51:06,775 Speaker 7: And that sort of thing. 870 00:51:07,335 --> 00:51:09,815 Speaker 10: Any building work that we undertook light when we took 871 00:51:09,895 --> 00:51:12,975 Speaker 10: walls out and put themes in it, and in place 872 00:51:13,055 --> 00:51:16,895 Speaker 10: of walls, where we took windows out and put in windows, 873 00:51:16,935 --> 00:51:19,815 Speaker 10: couple based windows and that sort of thing, we had 874 00:51:19,855 --> 00:51:23,895 Speaker 10: a builder do that. So that was that's all good 875 00:51:24,095 --> 00:51:28,495 Speaker 10: under the licensed Building practitioner's license. 876 00:51:28,895 --> 00:51:31,655 Speaker 7: Okay, No, we did. 877 00:51:34,455 --> 00:51:38,895 Speaker 2: Like taking a wall out like we'll come back to that. Yep. Okay, 878 00:51:39,015 --> 00:51:42,855 Speaker 2: so you did some work that now is any of 879 00:51:42,935 --> 00:51:45,855 Speaker 2: the work that you're describing, did any of that work 880 00:51:45,975 --> 00:51:47,335 Speaker 2: require a building consent? 881 00:51:48,335 --> 00:51:48,375 Speaker 8: No? 882 00:51:49,095 --> 00:51:50,455 Speaker 2: What about taking a wall out? 883 00:51:51,895 --> 00:51:54,655 Speaker 10: It was only an internal walls that was nonstructural, okay, 884 00:51:54,815 --> 00:51:58,335 Speaker 10: ye right, so so so so to go back to 885 00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:02,935 Speaker 10: anything anything that was taken out was nonstructural, yes, okay. 886 00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:06,135 Speaker 10: So we had we had builders, we had builders put 887 00:52:06,175 --> 00:52:11,375 Speaker 10: in two beams of where we took out two nonstructural 888 00:52:11,495 --> 00:52:15,575 Speaker 10: walls okay, and where we had windows put in, we 889 00:52:15,735 --> 00:52:18,135 Speaker 10: had them fitted by the by the builders. So we've 890 00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:20,895 Speaker 10: got the invoices and the and the sign off for that. 891 00:52:22,295 --> 00:52:25,295 Speaker 2: And the window side didn't change, No. 892 00:52:25,935 --> 00:52:28,255 Speaker 10: We had the windows, we had the windows made to side. 893 00:52:28,295 --> 00:52:32,615 Speaker 10: So we structurally we didn't change anything too drastically in 894 00:52:32,695 --> 00:52:37,055 Speaker 10: the house. Right, So with the likes of when we 895 00:52:37,215 --> 00:52:40,295 Speaker 10: go we re lined the bathroom that that was obriginally 896 00:52:40,375 --> 00:52:43,175 Speaker 10: done in hard attacks, right, So it's quite an old house. 897 00:52:43,535 --> 00:52:46,935 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, So we had it all. 898 00:52:47,095 --> 00:52:51,735 Speaker 10: We had all that done in aqua jib and that 899 00:52:51,855 --> 00:52:55,655 Speaker 10: sort of in that style of product, and again it 900 00:52:55,815 --> 00:53:01,095 Speaker 10: was all it was all done with the correct success 901 00:53:01,455 --> 00:53:04,735 Speaker 10: and that sort of thing, so we just we just 902 00:53:04,815 --> 00:53:06,695 Speaker 10: put it on the we just put it the closure 903 00:53:07,135 --> 00:53:12,135 Speaker 10: together right and basically being sold on it as is 904 00:53:12,295 --> 00:53:16,655 Speaker 10: where is basis, So it's up to the purchaser to 905 00:53:16,855 --> 00:53:20,815 Speaker 10: do their due diligence. 906 00:53:22,095 --> 00:53:22,255 Speaker 9: Right. 907 00:53:22,895 --> 00:53:26,895 Speaker 10: So basically it said that we're selling on an ass 908 00:53:27,095 --> 00:53:29,255 Speaker 10: where is basis. The whole house has been done with 909 00:53:29,295 --> 00:53:33,255 Speaker 10: the extension of the roof, It's all been insulated to 910 00:53:33,455 --> 00:53:37,855 Speaker 10: the required building app one. Unit Unit two does not 911 00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,935 Speaker 10: have a heat hunt in it, so that's part of 912 00:53:40,015 --> 00:53:43,455 Speaker 10: our disclosure as well, and that sort of thing. So 913 00:53:43,895 --> 00:53:46,615 Speaker 10: just to try and make it easy for the purchaser 914 00:53:47,935 --> 00:53:49,655 Speaker 10: to come in and go, I need to do that, 915 00:53:49,815 --> 00:53:51,655 Speaker 10: I need to do that. I need to identify that. 916 00:53:52,135 --> 00:53:55,375 Speaker 2: When you say it's been insulated, is that insulation in 917 00:53:55,415 --> 00:53:57,575 Speaker 2: the underfloor and the and the roof space, not on 918 00:53:57,655 --> 00:53:58,095 Speaker 2: the walls. 919 00:53:59,135 --> 00:54:02,295 Speaker 10: We were really fortunate that the house that we bought, 920 00:54:02,655 --> 00:54:05,815 Speaker 10: the sea has big the floor had already been done. 921 00:54:07,615 --> 00:54:12,535 Speaker 10: He had to do was the ceiling and the walls 922 00:54:12,575 --> 00:54:16,615 Speaker 10: and units two and three. So Unit one was all 923 00:54:16,695 --> 00:54:20,175 Speaker 10: forty done, all it was all it was all compliant 924 00:54:21,255 --> 00:54:23,815 Speaker 10: and it's been a four year project. We've just been 925 00:54:23,895 --> 00:54:26,215 Speaker 10: progressively working through the whole fact. 926 00:54:27,455 --> 00:54:30,055 Speaker 2: Just just on the wall, on the wall installation. So 927 00:54:30,175 --> 00:54:33,295 Speaker 2: did you add insulation to an existing exterior wall? 928 00:54:35,575 --> 00:54:36,135 Speaker 11: Yeah, we did. 929 00:54:36,415 --> 00:54:40,215 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that requires a building consent. 930 00:54:41,455 --> 00:54:44,455 Speaker 10: After it was after that war was repaired. 931 00:54:45,855 --> 00:54:51,295 Speaker 2: That requires a building consent. Interestingly enough told that, well 932 00:54:51,335 --> 00:54:59,935 Speaker 2: it does. Yeah, And I'm not I'm not trying to 933 00:54:59,975 --> 00:55:03,055 Speaker 2: play gotcha or anything like that. It's just and and look, 934 00:55:03,135 --> 00:55:06,935 Speaker 2: I for taking that a step further. I actually think 935 00:55:06,975 --> 00:55:09,535 Speaker 2: that that's the sort of work that should be under 936 00:55:09,575 --> 00:55:11,815 Speaker 2: Schedule one of the Building Act in terms of work 937 00:55:11,855 --> 00:55:14,815 Speaker 2: that can be done without necessarily requiring a consent, should 938 00:55:14,855 --> 00:55:18,495 Speaker 2: be done by a licensed building practitioner, but right now 939 00:55:18,855 --> 00:55:23,575 Speaker 2: it's not. And installing exterior insulation into an existing exterior 940 00:55:23,655 --> 00:55:29,935 Speaker 2: wall requires a consent. So yeah, anyway, look, I think 941 00:55:29,975 --> 00:55:32,775 Speaker 2: the way in which you've approached it is really sound, right. So, 942 00:55:33,375 --> 00:55:35,495 Speaker 2: you know, one of the concerns often is that people 943 00:55:35,615 --> 00:55:39,175 Speaker 2: do work. Sometimes it should have had a consent. Sometimes 944 00:55:39,215 --> 00:55:41,775 Speaker 2: that might not, but they don't keep any records of it, 945 00:55:41,975 --> 00:55:48,415 Speaker 2: and so there's an uncertainty. In Willie's example, they've purchased 946 00:55:48,495 --> 00:55:52,135 Speaker 2: something they didn't know that there was once a wall there. 947 00:55:52,215 --> 00:55:54,975 Speaker 2: They've discovered that there was one there there's no evidence 948 00:55:55,135 --> 00:55:58,215 Speaker 2: to say it was done correctly, and it makes it 949 00:55:58,415 --> 00:55:59,375 Speaker 2: very very difficult. 950 00:55:59,855 --> 00:56:00,015 Speaker 11: You know. 951 00:56:00,135 --> 00:56:02,735 Speaker 2: It sounds like you've taken a really thorough approach. You're 952 00:56:02,735 --> 00:56:04,775 Speaker 2: recording everything, you're providing evidence. 953 00:56:05,215 --> 00:56:05,375 Speaker 3: You know. 954 00:56:05,415 --> 00:56:08,335 Speaker 2: It's even things like if you if I'm not suggesting 955 00:56:08,375 --> 00:56:10,415 Speaker 2: people do, but if you did put a beam in 956 00:56:11,495 --> 00:56:14,135 Speaker 2: and take a photograph of the fixings, right and the 957 00:56:14,655 --> 00:56:17,215 Speaker 2: posts that go underneath it before you line it, and 958 00:56:17,335 --> 00:56:20,015 Speaker 2: then that becomes and then if you then want to 959 00:56:20,055 --> 00:56:22,615 Speaker 2: get someone to formalize it with a certificate of acceptance, 960 00:56:22,975 --> 00:56:25,055 Speaker 2: you could provide that as evidence. They can review the 961 00:56:25,095 --> 00:56:27,975 Speaker 2: evidence and go, hey, there's enough here for me to 962 00:56:28,215 --> 00:56:30,735 Speaker 2: conclude that the work was done in accordance with the 963 00:56:30,775 --> 00:56:31,975 Speaker 2: building code. Simple. 964 00:56:33,895 --> 00:56:37,415 Speaker 10: Yeah, we've basically put it together so that they can 965 00:56:37,455 --> 00:56:41,295 Speaker 10: see for themselves, what what what we have done? Yes? 966 00:56:41,535 --> 00:56:44,415 Speaker 10: And then a nutshell the only thing that has the 967 00:56:44,495 --> 00:56:45,735 Speaker 10: roots painted. 968 00:56:46,175 --> 00:56:52,295 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Look, I think as a general thing, there 969 00:56:52,375 --> 00:56:54,975 Speaker 2: was there was a phrase that was coined by I 970 00:56:55,015 --> 00:56:58,495 Speaker 2: think it was actually Green Building Council ages ago when 971 00:56:58,535 --> 00:57:02,095 Speaker 2: I did the Home Star program, that we should encourage 972 00:57:02,095 --> 00:57:05,175 Speaker 2: people to have a hug right a home user guide, 973 00:57:05,615 --> 00:57:08,815 Speaker 2: so you know, keep all of that documentation. If you've 974 00:57:08,895 --> 00:57:11,455 Speaker 2: done electrical work, if you've had plumbing work done, if 975 00:57:11,495 --> 00:57:15,055 Speaker 2: you've bought new appliances, keep all of that stuff. Put 976 00:57:15,095 --> 00:57:17,815 Speaker 2: it in a file or create a digital file, store 977 00:57:17,855 --> 00:57:21,175 Speaker 2: it in the cloud, and then you know, and I 978 00:57:21,375 --> 00:57:24,215 Speaker 2: know sometimes acting for people who are looking at it. 979 00:57:25,215 --> 00:57:27,735 Speaker 2: I went and did one on Friday, right, someone said, 980 00:57:27,735 --> 00:57:29,015 Speaker 2: could you have a look at this house with me 981 00:57:29,095 --> 00:57:31,975 Speaker 2: before I'm thinking of making an offer? On the table 982 00:57:32,455 --> 00:57:36,495 Speaker 2: was the complete property file, copies of the consents, receipts, 983 00:57:36,735 --> 00:57:40,255 Speaker 2: everything was there, and you go, that's fantastic. So you know, 984 00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:42,215 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's great if we can 985 00:57:42,295 --> 00:57:46,815 Speaker 2: move towards more and more people doing exactly the same thing. Yeah, yeah, 986 00:57:47,495 --> 00:57:50,255 Speaker 2: appreciate the call. Good luck and is this property now 987 00:57:50,375 --> 00:57:53,535 Speaker 2: up for sale the properly marketed? 988 00:57:54,495 --> 00:57:54,655 Speaker 11: WEK? 989 00:57:54,855 --> 00:57:59,855 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, good luck, Yeah, thank you, no trouble at all. 990 00:58:00,415 --> 00:58:04,135 Speaker 2: A nice jetting, good stuff, all the best, you two 991 00:58:04,255 --> 00:58:09,095 Speaker 2: take care. Oh wait eighty ten eighty interesting call someone 992 00:58:09,135 --> 00:58:10,615 Speaker 2: to text through there and go why would you put 993 00:58:10,615 --> 00:58:14,175 Speaker 2: a beaman when removing a non structural wall, you still 994 00:58:14,375 --> 00:58:16,775 Speaker 2: might have things like ceiling strapping and that sort of 995 00:58:16,815 --> 00:58:18,855 Speaker 2: thing that you want to pick up right, so you know, 996 00:58:20,215 --> 00:58:23,055 Speaker 2: in some cases the wall is holding up structural ailments. 997 00:58:23,295 --> 00:58:27,975 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just holding up you know, ceiling batons and 998 00:58:28,015 --> 00:58:30,735 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So and also putting in a 999 00:58:30,815 --> 00:58:32,695 Speaker 2: beaman means you don't have to try and level out 1000 00:58:32,735 --> 00:58:35,695 Speaker 2: the ceilings and those sorts of things. Eight hundred eighty 1001 00:58:35,775 --> 00:58:38,295 Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. A couple of 1002 00:58:38,335 --> 00:58:40,295 Speaker 2: good texts coming through, but I'll take your calls first, 1003 00:58:40,335 --> 00:58:42,615 Speaker 2: so get in now. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1004 00:58:42,935 --> 00:58:47,575 Speaker 2: We've got a slightly shorter show today because we've got 1005 00:58:47,615 --> 00:58:50,815 Speaker 2: the Rugby All Blacks v. Pumas kick off just after 1006 00:58:50,895 --> 00:58:53,575 Speaker 2: nine o'clock. We will hand over to the commentary team 1007 00:58:53,615 --> 00:58:55,975 Speaker 2: at eight forty five, which means we'll get ridden a 1008 00:58:56,095 --> 00:58:59,975 Speaker 2: little bit earlier, so give us a call now. Basically, 1009 00:59:00,095 --> 00:59:02,255 Speaker 2: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. 1010 00:59:03,095 --> 00:59:05,175 Speaker 2: Squeaky door or squeaky floor. 1011 00:59:05,415 --> 00:59:08,695 Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peta Wolfcare, the resident builder 1012 00:59:08,975 --> 00:59:11,375 Speaker 1: on NEWSTALKSB you. 1013 00:59:11,415 --> 00:59:13,415 Speaker 2: A news talks 'b if you've got a building question 1014 00:59:13,815 --> 00:59:18,695 Speaker 2: or a question around you know, products new ideas. Did 1015 00:59:18,735 --> 00:59:21,775 Speaker 2: I ever update people about the whole vice thing? And 1016 00:59:21,855 --> 00:59:25,375 Speaker 2: I apologies for people that go stop talking about their 1017 00:59:25,415 --> 00:59:28,335 Speaker 2: vice anyway, just quickly. I think a couple of weeks ago, 1018 00:59:28,335 --> 00:59:30,415 Speaker 2: I mentioned that I'd stripped an old vice off the bench, 1019 00:59:31,855 --> 00:59:34,775 Speaker 2: beautiful old English made, you know, made in Britain, stamped 1020 00:59:34,815 --> 00:59:37,295 Speaker 2: on the front and the castings, cleaned it all up, 1021 00:59:37,455 --> 00:59:39,695 Speaker 2: and then wanted something to spray on it that would 1022 00:59:39,775 --> 00:59:42,815 Speaker 2: keep the rust at bay, basically, so I ended up 1023 00:59:42,895 --> 00:59:47,415 Speaker 2: using that penetrol and look, it's worked well. I put 1024 00:59:47,455 --> 00:59:49,775 Speaker 2: it all back together again. I put the vice back 1025 00:59:49,815 --> 00:59:51,895 Speaker 2: onto the bench and actually, when I was in the 1026 00:59:51,935 --> 00:59:55,055 Speaker 2: workshop yesterday, I was trying to drill a hole into 1027 00:59:55,055 --> 00:59:56,975 Speaker 2: a small piece of timber and it's all a little 1028 00:59:56,975 --> 00:59:59,095 Speaker 2: bit hazardous and all the rest of it, and I 1029 00:59:59,175 --> 01:00:02,455 Speaker 2: was like, hang on, I've replaced my vent, I've fixed 1030 01:00:02,495 --> 01:00:05,135 Speaker 2: my vice. I can use the vice, which I did, 1031 01:00:05,255 --> 01:00:08,295 Speaker 2: and it worked. It's great, and it's still looking pretty good. 1032 01:00:08,295 --> 01:00:11,535 Speaker 2: Actually I left it sort of in that patina of 1033 01:00:11,735 --> 01:00:13,895 Speaker 2: rust and wear and a few bits of glue and 1034 01:00:14,015 --> 01:00:16,735 Speaker 2: paint stuck on it, and then just hopefully that pinatrol 1035 01:00:16,735 --> 01:00:19,095 Speaker 2: will keep the rust at bake, which will be awesome. Kate, 1036 01:00:19,295 --> 01:00:24,455 Speaker 2: good morning to you, Greetings Pete, how are you very well? 1037 01:00:24,655 --> 01:00:26,775 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and you good, thank you. 1038 01:00:27,095 --> 01:00:27,735 Speaker 13: I'm well, thank you. 1039 01:00:27,735 --> 01:00:31,095 Speaker 15: A quick question, I hope for you. I've got some 1040 01:00:31,375 --> 01:00:35,575 Speaker 15: cyber cement weather boards, and there are the three hundred ones. 1041 01:00:36,135 --> 01:00:39,095 Speaker 15: I've maintained the house very well. It's been painted every 1042 01:00:39,175 --> 01:00:42,975 Speaker 15: ten years and washed regularly. But recently one of my 1043 01:00:43,535 --> 01:00:46,095 Speaker 15: darling tenants, and I don't want her to play for this, 1044 01:00:47,055 --> 01:00:50,175 Speaker 15: has driven her car just a little too close and 1045 01:00:50,375 --> 01:00:53,735 Speaker 15: cracked cracked as the lowest board. But the thing is 1046 01:00:54,215 --> 01:00:57,135 Speaker 15: that the crack is such that the lower part of 1047 01:00:57,175 --> 01:01:00,415 Speaker 15: the crack is proud, and so it might be collecting water. Yes, 1048 01:01:01,455 --> 01:01:04,495 Speaker 15: And I don't know what to use to fill that. 1049 01:01:04,775 --> 01:01:06,575 Speaker 15: I presume I can just feel. I've got a few 1050 01:01:06,615 --> 01:01:09,495 Speaker 15: other cracks elsewhere, but they're vertical and they've never been 1051 01:01:09,535 --> 01:01:13,575 Speaker 15: a problem. Yes, So can I just fill it with 1052 01:01:13,695 --> 01:01:15,455 Speaker 15: something side or wood? 1053 01:01:16,735 --> 01:01:16,855 Speaker 3: Uh? 1054 01:01:17,335 --> 01:01:17,535 Speaker 14: Yeah? 1055 01:01:17,735 --> 01:01:21,615 Speaker 2: Probably. There's there's kind of two approaches. One, as you 1056 01:01:21,695 --> 01:01:24,135 Speaker 2: put a filler in there, you've just got to get 1057 01:01:24,135 --> 01:01:27,815 Speaker 2: something that's going to bond to the surface, right, which 1058 01:01:27,975 --> 01:01:30,175 Speaker 2: might you know, getting a filler to stick to the 1059 01:01:30,295 --> 01:01:35,255 Speaker 2: paint and presume it's been painted, it may not stick 1060 01:01:35,335 --> 01:01:37,055 Speaker 2: that well, in which case they kind of peel off 1061 01:01:37,455 --> 01:01:40,415 Speaker 2: So for example, builder's bog, which people use a lot, 1062 01:01:41,655 --> 01:01:44,135 Speaker 2: you can't use if the surface is being painted right. 1063 01:01:44,295 --> 01:01:48,935 Speaker 2: So I actually I use one that I got the 1064 01:01:49,055 --> 01:01:54,575 Speaker 2: other day. It's like a two pot epoxy filler, but 1065 01:01:54,695 --> 01:01:58,135 Speaker 2: it's quite light and easy to send later on called 1066 01:01:58,255 --> 01:02:01,735 Speaker 2: EPO tech E p O T E C. You've got 1067 01:02:01,815 --> 01:02:03,015 Speaker 2: to kind of look that up and look for a 1068 01:02:03,055 --> 01:02:06,895 Speaker 2: local distributor. I've been using that really like it. The 1069 01:02:07,015 --> 01:02:09,935 Speaker 2: other approach that I've taken with five or cement boards 1070 01:02:10,175 --> 01:02:13,415 Speaker 2: is I'll actually go and get some flashings made, like 1071 01:02:13,495 --> 01:02:16,775 Speaker 2: a big wide soka. So you need to find a 1072 01:02:16,815 --> 01:02:19,855 Speaker 2: sheet metal guy. Just let's say that I imagine if 1073 01:02:19,895 --> 01:02:22,215 Speaker 2: the towbar hit it, you know, you might have a 1074 01:02:22,255 --> 01:02:26,135 Speaker 2: crack that's sort of one hundred millimeters across. I would 1075 01:02:26,175 --> 01:02:30,415 Speaker 2: get a two hundred millimeter piece of flat sheet folded 1076 01:02:30,455 --> 01:02:32,335 Speaker 2: with a little return on the bottom which is probably 1077 01:02:32,375 --> 01:02:35,015 Speaker 2: about seven or eight millimeters for the thickness of the board, 1078 01:02:35,535 --> 01:02:37,895 Speaker 2: and then allow it to go up ten or fifteen 1079 01:02:37,935 --> 01:02:42,295 Speaker 2: millimeters past the underside of the board above. So it 1080 01:02:42,455 --> 01:02:45,255 Speaker 2: requires kind of levering that board out very gently without 1081 01:02:45,335 --> 01:02:47,655 Speaker 2: cracking that one as well. And I just put a 1082 01:02:47,775 --> 01:02:51,695 Speaker 2: soka over the whole thing and painted in because that's 1083 01:02:52,455 --> 01:02:54,175 Speaker 2: pretty much guaranteed to be weather tight. 1084 01:02:55,295 --> 01:02:56,775 Speaker 15: Well, it gets your permission to hit it again, I 1085 01:02:56,815 --> 01:02:57,375 Speaker 15: suppose to that. 1086 01:02:57,935 --> 01:02:59,815 Speaker 2: Well, it gives you a target. Yeah, don't paint that 1087 01:02:59,975 --> 01:03:03,535 Speaker 2: red or put a bullseye on it. Yeah. So yes, 1088 01:03:04,095 --> 01:03:06,935 Speaker 2: some fillers look and if it's like a vertical crack, 1089 01:03:06,975 --> 01:03:09,975 Speaker 2: which happens sometimes you can kind of gently rake it 1090 01:03:10,095 --> 01:03:12,495 Speaker 2: out a little bit and then apply a bead of 1091 01:03:12,655 --> 01:03:14,575 Speaker 2: sealant to that that's paintable. 1092 01:03:15,815 --> 01:03:18,175 Speaker 15: The key is so just down a bit and make it, 1093 01:03:18,255 --> 01:03:19,815 Speaker 15: give it a rough surface to hear. 1094 01:03:19,815 --> 01:03:22,575 Speaker 2: Or even with a sharp knife, just just go along 1095 01:03:22,695 --> 01:03:25,175 Speaker 2: the edge of the crack and kind of create like 1096 01:03:25,215 --> 01:03:27,895 Speaker 2: a little v because otherwise, you know, if it's a 1097 01:03:27,935 --> 01:03:30,335 Speaker 2: hairline crack and you apply a bead of sealant, it's 1098 01:03:30,415 --> 01:03:33,295 Speaker 2: just sitting on the surface. Whereas if you can even 1099 01:03:33,335 --> 01:03:35,415 Speaker 2: if you ended up making it kind of straight, putting 1100 01:03:35,415 --> 01:03:37,455 Speaker 2: a roller there and cutting a v in and then 1101 01:03:37,575 --> 01:03:41,335 Speaker 2: filling that v and then painting over it would leave 1102 01:03:41,375 --> 01:03:42,935 Speaker 2: a nice clean surface. 1103 01:03:44,295 --> 01:03:46,455 Speaker 15: So now you're talking about the EPO tax for the 1104 01:03:46,535 --> 01:03:47,215 Speaker 15: vertical crack. 1105 01:03:47,375 --> 01:03:49,815 Speaker 2: No, that would be like a sealant, like a flexible 1106 01:03:50,015 --> 01:03:55,855 Speaker 2: paintable sealant that you could use. Yeah, that's that's what 1107 01:03:55,975 --> 01:03:59,655 Speaker 2: I would do in those instances if I didn't want 1108 01:03:59,695 --> 01:04:03,775 Speaker 2: to do a flashing. Okay, yeah, so a couple. 1109 01:04:03,615 --> 01:04:06,895 Speaker 15: Of different the other on the other the oratical ones 1110 01:04:06,935 --> 01:04:10,015 Speaker 15: on a different property next door. Sure don't seem to 1111 01:04:10,095 --> 01:04:12,815 Speaker 15: get wet at all because the water just runs. They're 1112 01:04:12,935 --> 01:04:16,055 Speaker 15: very small. They just go through a door, door frame. 1113 01:04:16,495 --> 01:04:17,375 Speaker 8: It's just piny. 1114 01:04:18,255 --> 01:04:20,975 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, if you know, if you're not concerned about 1115 01:04:21,015 --> 01:04:24,095 Speaker 2: moisture ingress, right, water getting into the building, then just 1116 01:04:24,215 --> 01:04:27,095 Speaker 2: ceiling it with some paint or some sealant will be okay, 1117 01:04:27,575 --> 01:04:31,615 Speaker 2: something like that. That's where it's been dislocated. Let's say 1118 01:04:31,655 --> 01:04:35,775 Speaker 2: where it's it's uneven. You know the tricky thing. I 1119 01:04:35,815 --> 01:04:38,295 Speaker 2: suppose in this instance it's being pushed in. But typically 1120 01:04:38,335 --> 01:04:40,935 Speaker 2: when a board gets pushed in, part of it pops out, 1121 01:04:41,015 --> 01:04:45,255 Speaker 2: so you'll have one part that's slightly proud, in which 1122 01:04:45,375 --> 01:04:51,575 Speaker 2: case you might, yeah, consider the flash to. 1123 01:04:51,655 --> 01:04:53,415 Speaker 15: Do the flashing. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea. 1124 01:04:53,615 --> 01:04:56,615 Speaker 2: It's a it's what i'd call a belt embraces approach. Right, 1125 01:04:56,975 --> 01:04:59,495 Speaker 2: so you're covering the area you know it's going to 1126 01:04:59,495 --> 01:05:02,895 Speaker 2: be weather tight. And yes it does stand out a 1127 01:05:02,935 --> 01:05:06,215 Speaker 2: little bit, but you just know that it'll work. 1128 01:05:07,855 --> 01:05:08,455 Speaker 11: Yeah, brilliant. 1129 01:05:08,895 --> 01:05:11,135 Speaker 15: Well it's going to be painted next year anyway, against 1130 01:05:11,215 --> 01:05:12,895 Speaker 15: you for a paint, so it will be covered well. 1131 01:05:13,095 --> 01:05:14,575 Speaker 15: For flashing, you can punt the flashing. 1132 01:05:14,695 --> 01:05:16,575 Speaker 2: You can paint the flashing any color you like. 1133 01:05:18,015 --> 01:05:18,295 Speaker 15: Thank you. 1134 01:05:18,735 --> 01:05:22,455 Speaker 2: All right, that's to chat with you all the very Okay, 1135 01:05:22,535 --> 01:05:25,015 Speaker 2: take care, k bye oh eight hundred and eighty ten eight. 1136 01:05:25,015 --> 01:05:27,135 Speaker 2: If you'd like to join me and have a chat 1137 01:05:27,215 --> 01:05:31,815 Speaker 2: about all things building, we can do exactly that morning 1138 01:05:31,895 --> 01:05:37,615 Speaker 2: I mentioned the extractor Simmis s I m X. Do 1139 01:05:37,815 --> 01:05:40,095 Speaker 2: you have a really good high end bassroom fan please, 1140 01:05:40,135 --> 01:05:42,575 Speaker 2: one that looks great and works well. Look, there's all 1141 01:05:42,655 --> 01:05:45,215 Speaker 2: sorts out there. The reason I mentioned the Simmix one 1142 01:05:45,495 --> 01:05:50,375 Speaker 2: is that so s I m X and it's a 1143 01:05:51,695 --> 01:05:53,815 Speaker 2: I can find it. I think it's a four nine 1144 01:05:54,175 --> 01:05:56,655 Speaker 2: zero four nine or something. I'll get the right number 1145 01:05:56,695 --> 01:05:59,655 Speaker 2: for you in a minute. It's a constant flow fan, 1146 01:05:59,975 --> 01:06:04,775 Speaker 2: so it will run all of the time, just allowing 1147 01:06:04,975 --> 01:06:09,055 Speaker 2: for airflow, right, so it'll ramp up when it needs 1148 01:06:09,095 --> 01:06:11,455 Speaker 2: to when it detects humidity. So it's got a little 1149 01:06:11,535 --> 01:06:14,575 Speaker 2: humidity sensor in it, so in a bathroom, it'll ramp 1150 01:06:14,695 --> 01:06:18,335 Speaker 2: up maximum extraction when there's humidity are you when you're 1151 01:06:18,335 --> 01:06:21,295 Speaker 2: having a shower using the bath and then once that 1152 01:06:21,775 --> 01:06:25,815 Speaker 2: humidity level has dropped down, the rate of flow will 1153 01:06:25,935 --> 01:06:28,535 Speaker 2: drop down or the rate of extraction, and it will 1154 01:06:28,615 --> 01:06:31,695 Speaker 2: run just to allow air circulation through the room. The 1155 01:06:31,815 --> 01:06:36,455 Speaker 2: other thing that's sometimes overlooked with bathrooms and bathroom extraction 1156 01:06:36,775 --> 01:06:39,935 Speaker 2: is if you're going to be extracting so many liters 1157 01:06:40,055 --> 01:06:42,935 Speaker 2: of air per minute out of a bathroom, you've got 1158 01:06:42,975 --> 01:06:44,975 Speaker 2: to be able to allow that to go in. Otherwise, 1159 01:06:45,015 --> 01:06:47,775 Speaker 2: what you're doing is creating a vacuum. So if you 1160 01:06:47,975 --> 01:06:51,415 Speaker 2: don't have a sufficient gap underneath the door and you 1161 01:06:51,495 --> 01:06:53,575 Speaker 2: want to keep the door closed in the bathroom when 1162 01:06:53,615 --> 01:06:56,455 Speaker 2: you're using the bathroom, you'll need to make sure that 1163 01:06:56,535 --> 01:06:59,535 Speaker 2: you increase that gap between the floor and the underside 1164 01:06:59,575 --> 01:07:02,895 Speaker 2: of the door to allow airflow. Obviously, leaving the door 1165 01:07:02,935 --> 01:07:06,975 Speaker 2: open would help. Leaving a window open helps, but it 1166 01:07:07,295 --> 01:07:11,615 Speaker 2: tends to create a funny flow, I think, So make 1167 01:07:11,655 --> 01:07:14,175 Speaker 2: sure that the a gap underneath the door. That's really 1168 01:07:14,255 --> 01:07:17,335 Speaker 2: really important as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1169 01:07:17,455 --> 01:07:21,215 Speaker 2: If you have a question of building about building, we 1170 01:07:21,255 --> 01:07:24,535 Speaker 2: can talk about that morning Peak. Last Sunday, following the 1171 01:07:24,535 --> 01:07:27,135 Speaker 2: advice of a caller, I went and bought some Patrol, 1172 01:07:27,735 --> 01:07:33,895 Speaker 2: used it, loved it. I now Patrol. Yeah, I'm within 1173 01:07:34,015 --> 01:07:35,015 Speaker 2: an inch of its life. 1174 01:07:36,895 --> 01:07:37,095 Speaker 3: Ah. 1175 01:07:39,935 --> 01:07:43,255 Speaker 2: Oh, that's fantastic. Thank you very much for your text. 1176 01:07:43,855 --> 01:07:45,255 Speaker 2: It is good when you give a new product and 1177 01:07:45,335 --> 01:07:47,255 Speaker 2: you like it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the 1178 01:07:47,375 --> 01:07:48,895 Speaker 2: number to call will take a break. We'll be back 1179 01:07:48,895 --> 01:07:49,935 Speaker 2: with Peggy after the break. 1180 01:07:50,255 --> 01:07:53,775 Speaker 1: We're helping you get those DIY projects done. Right the 1181 01:07:53,975 --> 01:07:57,335 Speaker 1: resident builder with Peter Wolfcat call. Oh eight hundred eighty 1182 01:07:57,575 --> 01:07:59,975 Speaker 1: eight Youth Talks Envy right. 1183 01:08:00,135 --> 01:08:02,615 Speaker 2: Oh, very good morning, welcome back to the show, and Peggy, 1184 01:08:02,775 --> 01:08:03,615 Speaker 2: good morning to you. 1185 01:08:04,415 --> 01:08:04,975 Speaker 16: Good morning. 1186 01:08:06,535 --> 01:08:06,655 Speaker 15: Now. 1187 01:08:06,815 --> 01:08:12,455 Speaker 16: I had had an overflowing hot water pipe that came 1188 01:08:12,575 --> 01:08:17,495 Speaker 16: down inside and when the new roof on about four 1189 01:08:17,655 --> 01:08:22,095 Speaker 16: years ago, when the plumber got up, there was a 1190 01:08:22,175 --> 01:08:25,415 Speaker 16: slight there was a split or a little hole around 1191 01:08:25,495 --> 01:08:28,975 Speaker 16: the base of the hot water pipe. Now that would 1192 01:08:28,975 --> 01:08:32,055 Speaker 16: have been viewed when the roof was put on, and 1193 01:08:33,375 --> 01:08:35,695 Speaker 16: I've been thinking. I woke up the other night and 1194 01:08:35,815 --> 01:08:40,255 Speaker 16: suddenly remembered because when I'm inside looking at the wallpaper, 1195 01:08:40,775 --> 01:08:46,175 Speaker 16: there's a split in one corner down from the Scotia 1196 01:08:46,535 --> 01:08:51,495 Speaker 16: right down the wall, slipped wallpaper and made it raised. Yes, 1197 01:08:51,855 --> 01:08:53,695 Speaker 16: they see there's been movement there. 1198 01:08:55,015 --> 01:08:55,175 Speaker 13: Now. 1199 01:08:55,695 --> 01:08:58,855 Speaker 16: I roke up here the other night and I've been 1200 01:08:58,975 --> 01:09:01,575 Speaker 16: wondering why the hell has this happened on a new roof, 1201 01:09:02,575 --> 01:09:06,055 Speaker 16: And I remembered, going back about three years. It was 1202 01:09:06,335 --> 01:09:13,095 Speaker 16: after the cyclone. I had a leaking pipe outside on 1203 01:09:13,295 --> 01:09:17,895 Speaker 16: the one end of the building. I rang a plumber, 1204 01:09:18,335 --> 01:09:20,175 Speaker 16: got him to come in, and I asked him to 1205 01:09:20,215 --> 01:09:23,015 Speaker 16: put a new washer in that tap. He didn't put 1206 01:09:23,055 --> 01:09:25,375 Speaker 16: a new washer, and he tore the tap off. I 1207 01:09:25,495 --> 01:09:29,135 Speaker 16: stood beside him and I watched him. Book Now, when 1208 01:09:29,215 --> 01:09:33,855 Speaker 16: he removed the tap, he wrenched it and he actually, 1209 01:09:34,095 --> 01:09:38,655 Speaker 16: because I was alarmed, the the in flow from the street. 1210 01:09:39,695 --> 01:09:42,535 Speaker 16: So it was the main tap onto the side house. Yep, 1211 01:09:43,535 --> 01:09:46,015 Speaker 16: he bent that pipe where it came up. There's a 1212 01:09:46,095 --> 01:09:49,895 Speaker 16: concrete path right along the front of my house which 1213 01:09:50,055 --> 01:09:53,735 Speaker 16: goes downhill. It meets the drive, which is also concrete. 1214 01:09:55,615 --> 01:09:59,375 Speaker 16: And he wrenched that pipe and put he had to 1215 01:09:59,415 --> 01:10:03,255 Speaker 16: put a join on, but he split the top of 1216 01:10:03,295 --> 01:10:07,935 Speaker 16: that pipe. And when he new pipeon, he was going 1217 01:10:08,015 --> 01:10:10,335 Speaker 16: to leave, and I said, hey, you've split that pipe. 1218 01:10:11,775 --> 01:10:12,415 Speaker 13: And he said, I. 1219 01:10:12,375 --> 01:10:15,055 Speaker 16: Haven't got time to fix it now, I'll come back tomorrow. 1220 01:10:15,495 --> 01:10:17,135 Speaker 16: Well he didn't come back tomorrow. 1221 01:10:19,375 --> 01:10:20,255 Speaker 13: He left it for. 1222 01:10:22,135 --> 01:10:26,855 Speaker 16: Three to five weeks. I can't remember exactly how long now, 1223 01:10:27,055 --> 01:10:31,015 Speaker 16: but that split got bigger and bigger as the days 1224 01:10:31,055 --> 01:10:34,575 Speaker 16: went on, because I was watching it a bank up 1225 01:10:34,895 --> 01:10:38,735 Speaker 16: from the other end of the house, right along that 1226 01:10:38,975 --> 01:10:42,895 Speaker 16: path to the leaking tap, and by the time he come, 1227 01:10:43,055 --> 01:10:48,135 Speaker 16: it was running it quite a force. He didn't come. 1228 01:10:48,295 --> 01:10:52,615 Speaker 16: He sent and I got a second builder, and he 1229 01:10:52,735 --> 01:10:55,295 Speaker 16: refused to do the job because he said that farmer 1230 01:10:55,335 --> 01:11:00,095 Speaker 16: should come back and repair it. So he left didn't 1231 01:11:00,135 --> 01:11:02,735 Speaker 16: do anything about it. So that tap was running. I 1232 01:11:02,975 --> 01:11:06,175 Speaker 16: was waiting down that path to the other end. It 1233 01:11:06,455 --> 01:11:11,615 Speaker 16: was over the top of my gumbers foot so that 1234 01:11:11,935 --> 01:11:17,375 Speaker 16: water was there for that whole time, and I'm wondering 1235 01:11:19,135 --> 01:11:22,375 Speaker 16: whether that has what damage would that have done to 1236 01:11:22,535 --> 01:11:25,255 Speaker 16: my past. I was so worried. I climbed under the 1237 01:11:25,295 --> 01:11:27,495 Speaker 16: house one part, but I couldn't get to that boil 1238 01:11:28,215 --> 01:11:30,895 Speaker 16: alther end was dry, so I just took it that 1239 01:11:31,015 --> 01:11:33,735 Speaker 16: it wasn't coming in under the house, but it must 1240 01:11:33,775 --> 01:11:38,335 Speaker 16: have been running somewhere because that was that split pipe 1241 01:11:38,495 --> 01:11:39,175 Speaker 16: was running. 1242 01:11:38,975 --> 01:11:41,575 Speaker 2: Quite and it was the So it's the mains that 1243 01:11:41,695 --> 01:11:43,895 Speaker 2: had to split in them, and so you're getting water 1244 01:11:44,015 --> 01:11:49,175 Speaker 2: out of the mains, saturating the ground and potentially causing 1245 01:11:49,415 --> 01:11:51,655 Speaker 2: movement that's causing the split. 1246 01:11:51,815 --> 01:11:54,015 Speaker 16: That's what I finally woke up for the other night. 1247 01:11:53,935 --> 01:11:58,575 Speaker 2: And thought, look, it's not outside of the realm of 1248 01:11:58,695 --> 01:12:01,695 Speaker 2: possibility in the sense that if you get a lot 1249 01:12:01,735 --> 01:12:04,775 Speaker 2: of water in one area and it saturates the ground, 1250 01:12:04,895 --> 01:12:09,655 Speaker 2: the ground will become less stable and piles can move. 1251 01:12:10,055 --> 01:12:11,695 Speaker 2: I was talking about it with someone the other day 1252 01:12:11,735 --> 01:12:14,335 Speaker 2: exactly that you get water underneath the building and piles 1253 01:12:14,375 --> 01:12:17,175 Speaker 2: will move, and then you know, whether that's winter in 1254 01:12:17,215 --> 01:12:22,255 Speaker 2: summer or in this event, a flood event, it's possible. 1255 01:12:22,335 --> 01:12:24,815 Speaker 2: But I think from what you were describing at the beginning, 1256 01:12:24,935 --> 01:12:27,975 Speaker 2: where there was an issue with a pipe in the ceiling, 1257 01:12:28,175 --> 01:12:31,855 Speaker 2: that's more likely to have contributed to the wallpaper. And 1258 01:12:32,335 --> 01:12:35,735 Speaker 2: you know, if it's just the wallpaper that's opened up, 1259 01:12:36,255 --> 01:12:37,655 Speaker 2: you can just stick that back with a bit of 1260 01:12:37,735 --> 01:12:40,735 Speaker 2: PVA glup. But if it's the wallpapers opened up because 1261 01:12:40,775 --> 01:12:43,695 Speaker 2: the wall has started to crack, and that crack has 1262 01:12:43,735 --> 01:12:47,575 Speaker 2: occurred somewhere close to where that pile is, then yes, 1263 01:12:47,735 --> 01:12:52,175 Speaker 2: that's not an a logical conclusion. The question is, you know, 1264 01:12:52,415 --> 01:12:55,295 Speaker 2: after this much time, will the plumber come back? Will 1265 01:12:55,335 --> 01:12:58,415 Speaker 2: the plumber address it as an issue? Probably unlikely, So 1266 01:12:59,055 --> 01:13:00,935 Speaker 2: it's going to be a case of repair it and 1267 01:13:01,335 --> 01:13:04,615 Speaker 2: then just get on. I guess that's the really challenging. 1268 01:13:04,695 --> 01:13:07,855 Speaker 2: But it's always it's always sad when I hear stories 1269 01:13:07,855 --> 01:13:10,735 Speaker 2: about you know, plumbers or any trades people who don't 1270 01:13:10,775 --> 01:13:14,015 Speaker 2: do a great job. And you know, if you've made 1271 01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:16,815 Speaker 2: a mistake, just fix it right. And if you've split 1272 01:13:16,895 --> 01:13:19,975 Speaker 2: a pipe, waiting three to four weeks to come back 1273 01:13:20,015 --> 01:13:21,375 Speaker 2: and fix it, that's not great, is it? 1274 01:13:22,415 --> 01:13:22,455 Speaker 13: No? 1275 01:13:22,775 --> 01:13:26,015 Speaker 16: Because but I'm worried that am I going to have 1276 01:13:26,255 --> 01:13:28,695 Speaker 16: ongoing problems with that corner of the house. 1277 01:13:29,455 --> 01:13:29,495 Speaker 3: No. 1278 01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,855 Speaker 2: I think if you fix the problem, the ground will 1279 01:13:31,975 --> 01:13:35,095 Speaker 2: dry out, but there might have been some movement and 1280 01:13:35,215 --> 01:13:38,615 Speaker 2: that won't change. So if it has moved and sunk 1281 01:13:38,975 --> 01:13:42,215 Speaker 2: a little bit, the ground drying out isn't going to 1282 01:13:42,335 --> 01:13:45,295 Speaker 2: help that. So, yes, there is a possibility that the 1283 01:13:45,415 --> 01:13:51,015 Speaker 2: issue becomes you know, kind of proving causation, which is 1284 01:13:51,495 --> 01:13:55,495 Speaker 2: very difficult. It's possible, but it's not conclusive, so I'm 1285 01:13:55,535 --> 01:13:58,615 Speaker 2: not sure. You just have to keep an eye on it, basically, 1286 01:13:58,695 --> 01:14:01,855 Speaker 2: and if you needed to have some investigation done, it 1287 01:14:01,975 --> 01:14:05,135 Speaker 2: becomes a structural engineering issue, etc. It just gets really 1288 01:14:05,215 --> 01:14:09,175 Speaker 2: complicated really quickly. It's worth keeping an eye on. That's 1289 01:14:09,215 --> 01:14:11,535 Speaker 2: the best advice right now. Good luck with that, Peggy, 1290 01:14:12,015 --> 01:14:14,655 Speaker 2: your news stalk said, be it is almost bang on 1291 01:14:14,815 --> 01:14:17,295 Speaker 2: quarter to eight, remember at around eight twenty, so a 1292 01:14:17,335 --> 01:14:20,415 Speaker 2: bit earlier this morning. Red Cline Pass will be with us. 1293 01:14:20,455 --> 01:14:23,615 Speaker 2: We'll jump into the garden and then we will hand 1294 01:14:23,655 --> 01:14:26,135 Speaker 2: over to the commentary team in an hour's time at 1295 01:14:26,175 --> 01:14:30,095 Speaker 2: eight forty five, ahead of the All Blacks v. Pumas game. 1296 01:14:30,295 --> 01:14:34,055 Speaker 2: Life from Argentina will come and chat with Louise straight 1297 01:14:34,095 --> 01:14:34,655 Speaker 2: after the break. 1298 01:14:35,135 --> 01:14:39,495 Speaker 1: Matter twice god was but maybe golfete first. Fida Wolfgav 1299 01:14:39,655 --> 01:14:43,535 Speaker 1: the resident builder News Talk said, b right your new. 1300 01:14:43,495 --> 01:14:45,895 Speaker 2: Stalks SIDB eleven minutes coming up, eleven minutes away from 1301 01:14:45,975 --> 01:14:48,335 Speaker 2: eight and Louise, good morning to you. 1302 01:14:49,935 --> 01:14:50,055 Speaker 8: Hi. 1303 01:14:51,375 --> 01:14:54,215 Speaker 17: I've probably got a bit of an idiot question here. 1304 01:14:55,775 --> 01:15:00,935 Speaker 17: I have a car port and it has kind of 1305 01:15:01,095 --> 01:15:03,615 Speaker 17: like a brick, well it isn't kind of. It is 1306 01:15:03,655 --> 01:15:09,815 Speaker 17: a brick all around it, and it's starting to develop 1307 01:15:10,215 --> 01:15:13,495 Speaker 17: maybe leech a bit of white powdery stuff out of 1308 01:15:13,575 --> 01:15:17,175 Speaker 17: the bricks. Yes, And I just wondered I need to 1309 01:15:17,335 --> 01:15:19,895 Speaker 17: do anything about it, like is it something to be 1310 01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:23,175 Speaker 17: worried about, or do I just crush it off? Or 1311 01:15:23,615 --> 01:15:25,295 Speaker 17: can I just didn't happen? 1312 01:15:25,655 --> 01:15:27,815 Speaker 2: Now that you're talking about it being a cardboard, is 1313 01:15:27,895 --> 01:15:30,535 Speaker 2: it a block wall or a brick wall? So when 1314 01:15:30,575 --> 01:15:32,295 Speaker 2: you look at it, if it's a block wall, the 1315 01:15:32,335 --> 01:15:35,695 Speaker 2: blocks are about four hundred long two hundred high and 1316 01:15:35,815 --> 01:15:40,255 Speaker 2: a light gray color or is it actually no, it's bricks. 1317 01:15:40,735 --> 01:15:45,935 Speaker 17: Bricks yep. And it would have been built in the 1318 01:15:46,015 --> 01:15:48,855 Speaker 17: late sixties yep. Yeah. 1319 01:15:49,135 --> 01:15:52,815 Speaker 2: So and that white powder is coming out of the 1320 01:15:52,895 --> 01:15:54,415 Speaker 2: bricks themselves. 1321 01:15:54,735 --> 01:15:58,015 Speaker 17: Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, And suddenly enough I thought it's 1322 01:15:58,215 --> 01:16:00,735 Speaker 17: probably that age of the bricks. But then I went 1323 01:16:00,855 --> 01:16:03,375 Speaker 17: to see a client this week who's in the new 1324 01:16:03,535 --> 01:16:07,775 Speaker 17: build of apartment blocks, and red bricks are doing exactly. 1325 01:16:08,695 --> 01:16:13,335 Speaker 2: Yeah. So what it is is it's efflorescence. Right, So 1326 01:16:13,455 --> 01:16:18,495 Speaker 2: it's salt, and salt is often part of masonry because 1327 01:16:18,575 --> 01:16:23,655 Speaker 2: we collect sand from the beach, right, and so sand, 1328 01:16:24,335 --> 01:16:27,695 Speaker 2: beach salt, water salt is in the sand. It should 1329 01:16:27,735 --> 01:16:31,055 Speaker 2: be thoroughly washed before it's used in manufacture. But it 1330 01:16:31,175 --> 01:16:33,655 Speaker 2: seems like you know, in some cases, there's still a 1331 01:16:33,735 --> 01:16:36,495 Speaker 2: bit of salt in there, right, and it's that salt 1332 01:16:36,735 --> 01:16:40,975 Speaker 2: that when it gets reactivated by moisture and migrates to 1333 01:16:41,095 --> 01:16:46,175 Speaker 2: the outside, so it's efforescence. It's a salt. There are 1334 01:16:46,335 --> 01:16:48,895 Speaker 2: some products that you can use that will help dissolve 1335 01:16:48,935 --> 01:16:50,855 Speaker 2: it and clean it off. So if you just search 1336 01:16:50,975 --> 01:16:54,455 Speaker 2: for concrete cleaning efforescence something like that, you'll find some 1337 01:16:54,535 --> 01:16:57,575 Speaker 2: products there are now. Thankfully it used to be basically 1338 01:16:57,695 --> 01:17:00,855 Speaker 2: acid based. A lot of the products are now not 1339 01:17:01,135 --> 01:17:04,535 Speaker 2: acid based, which is an advantage. You can clean it off. 1340 01:17:04,775 --> 01:17:06,815 Speaker 2: There might be a little bit of it coming back, 1341 01:17:08,175 --> 01:17:10,215 Speaker 2: but you could clean that off again and eventually it 1342 01:17:10,295 --> 01:17:14,415 Speaker 2: will it will stop. The other question though, is what 1343 01:17:14,935 --> 01:17:18,215 Speaker 2: how is the moisture getting into the wall? So what 1344 01:17:18,575 --> 01:17:21,855 Speaker 2: you're seeing is behind the bricks that you're seeing, is 1345 01:17:21,975 --> 01:17:26,375 Speaker 2: that like the rest of the building, is it exposed 1346 01:17:26,415 --> 01:17:28,895 Speaker 2: to the elements on the outside, Like where is that 1347 01:17:29,055 --> 01:17:30,495 Speaker 2: moisture coming from? Is the question? 1348 01:17:32,375 --> 01:17:32,575 Speaker 9: Well? 1349 01:17:34,255 --> 01:17:39,215 Speaker 17: Probably twofold So definitely the weather, because like it's that's 1350 01:17:39,375 --> 01:17:42,615 Speaker 17: where you know, all the rain that we've had. That's 1351 01:17:42,775 --> 01:17:47,375 Speaker 17: definitely where it's sure it gets wet, but also there's 1352 01:17:47,535 --> 01:17:54,615 Speaker 17: a down pipe from the So it's a car port 1353 01:17:55,055 --> 01:18:02,415 Speaker 17: and there's spouting along the cap. Yes, and there's definitely 1354 01:18:02,695 --> 01:18:04,615 Speaker 17: a down pipe thing there. 1355 01:18:05,535 --> 01:18:07,255 Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, so. 1356 01:18:09,935 --> 01:18:12,775 Speaker 17: To say just wipe it with this and that will 1357 01:18:12,815 --> 01:18:13,295 Speaker 17: be fine. 1358 01:18:14,375 --> 01:18:17,535 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, someone steps through this is I haven't 1359 01:18:17,615 --> 01:18:22,495 Speaker 2: tried this, but apparently baking soda and water. Right, so 1360 01:18:22,815 --> 01:18:25,335 Speaker 2: in the same way that if I if I burn 1361 01:18:25,415 --> 01:18:27,375 Speaker 2: the pan, I put a bit of baking soda in 1362 01:18:27,455 --> 01:18:31,735 Speaker 2: there and leave it overnight. Yeah, you know that will work. 1363 01:18:31,815 --> 01:18:34,975 Speaker 2: There are some chemical treatments, there are some industrial treatments. 1364 01:18:37,855 --> 01:18:40,415 Speaker 2: Someone suggested that, you know, once you sort of cured it, 1365 01:18:40,535 --> 01:18:44,135 Speaker 2: you could seal the block work as well, but that 1366 01:18:44,335 --> 01:18:48,735 Speaker 2: that would mean sealing all of the exterior brickwork of building. 1367 01:18:49,735 --> 01:18:51,975 Speaker 17: And it's only in one particular area. 1368 01:18:52,215 --> 01:18:52,415 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1369 01:18:52,775 --> 01:18:55,375 Speaker 2: Look, I think treat it to remove it and then 1370 01:18:55,655 --> 01:18:57,735 Speaker 2: a little bit of it might come back, but it 1371 01:18:57,815 --> 01:18:58,415 Speaker 2: probably won't. 1372 01:19:00,055 --> 01:19:01,015 Speaker 17: Oh that's interesting. 1373 01:19:01,255 --> 01:19:04,255 Speaker 11: Okay, that's all the very best. 1374 01:19:04,575 --> 01:19:07,895 Speaker 2: Take Louise probably and Carl, good morning to you. 1375 01:19:10,895 --> 01:19:11,055 Speaker 3: Too. 1376 01:19:11,135 --> 01:19:15,935 Speaker 11: Well. Yeah, I've got a I've got wooden floors in 1377 01:19:16,015 --> 01:19:19,215 Speaker 11: my house and just by the door where the sun 1378 01:19:19,335 --> 01:19:22,855 Speaker 11: comes in, it's sort of the varnish or whatever is 1379 01:19:23,055 --> 01:19:27,535 Speaker 11: kind of wearing offs, you know, I mean, what do 1380 01:19:27,655 --> 01:19:29,535 Speaker 11: I need to do to maintainer? Do I need to 1381 01:19:30,335 --> 01:19:33,415 Speaker 11: revanish it or send it down or what do I do? 1382 01:19:34,615 --> 01:19:36,975 Speaker 2: I mean, look varnishes or you know, any sort of 1383 01:19:37,015 --> 01:19:39,615 Speaker 2: polyurethane that we tend to put on our Presume it's 1384 01:19:39,695 --> 01:19:43,175 Speaker 2: it's natural timber floor. Right, So it's a remo or 1385 01:19:43,175 --> 01:19:46,935 Speaker 2: a matti or car or something like that. Right, those 1386 01:19:47,215 --> 01:19:51,295 Speaker 2: those surfaces, I guess have a lifespan. At a certain 1387 01:19:51,335 --> 01:19:55,535 Speaker 2: point it will start to decay in an area like 1388 01:19:55,615 --> 01:19:58,815 Speaker 2: that near a front door. Possibly it gets exposure to sunlight, 1389 01:19:59,015 --> 01:20:01,615 Speaker 2: also wet feet, that sort of thing that that tends 1390 01:20:01,655 --> 01:20:05,615 Speaker 2: to accelerate it. Most of the time, what's involved is 1391 01:20:05,655 --> 01:20:08,055 Speaker 2: actually seen the floor back to be a timber and 1392 01:20:08,135 --> 01:20:11,855 Speaker 2: then re polyurethaning. But you can only do that once 1393 01:20:12,015 --> 01:20:18,335 Speaker 2: or twice. The really challenging thing. And funnily enough, I 1394 01:20:18,455 --> 01:20:22,015 Speaker 2: was doing this on Thursday, right, I pulled out a 1395 01:20:22,295 --> 01:20:26,055 Speaker 2: toilet that was sitting on a cowry timber floor, and 1396 01:20:26,255 --> 01:20:29,295 Speaker 2: the new toilet was going to have a slightly smaller 1397 01:20:29,375 --> 01:20:34,695 Speaker 2: footprint than the existing one, and so where there would 1398 01:20:34,695 --> 01:20:38,815 Speaker 2: be a bit of exposed timber left. In fact, it 1399 01:20:38,935 --> 01:20:41,775 Speaker 2: wasn't even exposed. It was from the original renovation side 1400 01:20:41,815 --> 01:20:45,575 Speaker 2: of being polyurethane, so it samed that polyurethane off and 1401 01:20:45,735 --> 01:20:49,135 Speaker 2: then try and blend in some new polyurethane to match 1402 01:20:49,695 --> 01:20:53,935 Speaker 2: the blonded floor that had been done. Not a lot 1403 01:20:53,975 --> 01:20:59,135 Speaker 2: of success to be fair, right, Well, it's really difficult. 1404 01:20:59,255 --> 01:21:05,855 Speaker 2: Like typically you don't put polyurethane over polyurethane because they 1405 01:21:05,895 --> 01:21:09,655 Speaker 2: don't right or if they do bond, you're still reliant 1406 01:21:09,735 --> 01:21:12,255 Speaker 2: on the first coat not letting go. So typically the 1407 01:21:12,295 --> 01:21:14,495 Speaker 2: approaches I'm going to send that off, but if it's 1408 01:21:14,575 --> 01:21:18,295 Speaker 2: only let's say at the front door, then you're going 1409 01:21:18,375 --> 01:21:23,215 Speaker 2: to have a join at a certain stage. This is 1410 01:21:23,335 --> 01:21:26,935 Speaker 2: just these things have a lifespan, right, and so it's 1411 01:21:27,095 --> 01:21:31,735 Speaker 2: serviceability over time which is the issue. What I could 1412 01:21:31,775 --> 01:21:35,695 Speaker 2: suggest is is phone around a couple of floor sanders 1413 01:21:35,815 --> 01:21:38,815 Speaker 2: in your area and get someone who's proficient with it 1414 01:21:38,895 --> 01:21:41,175 Speaker 2: to come out and gives you some advice. You could 1415 01:21:41,295 --> 01:21:45,255 Speaker 2: go to maybe a supplier of polyurethanes to see whether 1416 01:21:45,335 --> 01:21:47,815 Speaker 2: they've got a solution. So in Auckland, for example, it's 1417 01:21:47,895 --> 01:21:51,815 Speaker 2: Handley's do a lot of polyurethane supply for floor sanders. 1418 01:21:52,695 --> 01:21:55,855 Speaker 2: I rang my mate Phil from freedom flooring to go, hey, 1419 01:21:55,935 --> 01:21:58,695 Speaker 2: what can I do? And he kind of stepped me 1420 01:21:58,775 --> 01:22:03,415 Speaker 2: through it. Look it looks okay, it's not perfect, but 1421 01:22:03,855 --> 01:22:06,695 Speaker 2: what I've done worked Okay, So I send it back, 1422 01:22:07,855 --> 01:22:10,175 Speaker 2: made up a little bit of blonding myself, and then 1423 01:22:10,255 --> 01:22:14,335 Speaker 2: put it in there. Oh yeah, but if it's an 1424 01:22:14,375 --> 01:22:16,255 Speaker 2: area in front of there, you could just mask it 1425 01:22:16,335 --> 01:22:18,775 Speaker 2: off and have that area send it and redone. But 1426 01:22:18,935 --> 01:22:20,535 Speaker 2: typically you try the floor. 1427 01:22:21,055 --> 01:22:23,255 Speaker 11: Yeah, but little pictures. 1428 01:22:23,535 --> 01:22:28,375 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit challenging because you know, obviously blending 1429 01:22:28,455 --> 01:22:31,375 Speaker 2: it in is kind of hard. But look, if you've 1430 01:22:31,415 --> 01:22:33,655 Speaker 2: got some contacts, reach out to a floor standing guy 1431 01:22:33,775 --> 01:22:35,095 Speaker 2: and see if they can come and have a look 1432 01:22:35,255 --> 01:22:37,895 Speaker 2: at at it and give you some professional advice on 1433 01:22:38,015 --> 01:22:41,335 Speaker 2: that that it might be a whole restrip and start again. 1434 01:22:42,015 --> 01:22:44,895 Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Carl. We will continue with your 1435 01:22:44,975 --> 01:22:47,855 Speaker 2: calls briefly after the break. News at eight is now. 1436 01:22:50,295 --> 01:22:52,775 Speaker 1: Doing up the house, storting the garden, asks Pete for 1437 01:22:52,855 --> 01:22:58,415 Speaker 1: a hand. The resident builder with Peter Wolfcab calls dogs. 1438 01:22:59,575 --> 01:23:03,415 Speaker 2: Yeah, News talks, Welcome back to the show. Slightly truncated 1439 01:23:03,495 --> 01:23:06,815 Speaker 2: today because of course there is nuts anticipation. Head of 1440 01:23:07,455 --> 01:23:13,095 Speaker 2: the All Blacks versus Lost Bomas versus Australia Argentina kickoff 1441 01:23:13,295 --> 01:23:17,135 Speaker 2: just after nine o'clock. We will start coverage here at 1442 01:23:17,175 --> 01:23:20,975 Speaker 2: Newstalk SEDB from eight forty five this morning, so the 1443 01:23:21,055 --> 01:23:27,055 Speaker 2: Root will be along shortly and then we will jump 1444 01:23:27,135 --> 01:23:29,535 Speaker 2: into the garden with Root from about eight twenty this morning. 1445 01:23:29,815 --> 01:23:32,095 Speaker 2: Still got time for a couple of building questions. If 1446 01:23:32,095 --> 01:23:34,175 Speaker 2: you'd like to fire them through, you can call me 1447 01:23:34,335 --> 01:23:38,855 Speaker 2: right now on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty actually 1448 01:23:39,215 --> 01:23:43,575 Speaker 2: just quickly. I went along to the New Zealand Green 1449 01:23:43,735 --> 01:23:49,855 Speaker 2: Building Council Property Summit twenty twenty five earlier this week, 1450 01:23:50,815 --> 01:23:55,135 Speaker 2: which was awesome to be fair, and this is you know, 1451 01:23:55,495 --> 01:23:57,815 Speaker 2: I mean there's there's people who are presenting who have 1452 01:23:58,575 --> 01:24:01,935 Speaker 2: represent property portfolios that are worth two billion dollars. So 1453 01:24:02,495 --> 01:24:07,015 Speaker 2: there's there's some fairly heavy hitters there, these sort of 1454 01:24:07,095 --> 01:24:12,895 Speaker 2: property managers, property owning companies that have vast developments. And 1455 01:24:13,015 --> 01:24:15,615 Speaker 2: what's interesting is they're there at a green property summit, 1456 01:24:15,735 --> 01:24:18,615 Speaker 2: right So they're there because they want their buildings to 1457 01:24:18,775 --> 01:24:22,015 Speaker 2: be more energy efficient, they want their buildings to be 1458 01:24:22,215 --> 01:24:24,415 Speaker 2: better for the environment, they want their buildings to be 1459 01:24:24,495 --> 01:24:27,375 Speaker 2: better for the people that occupy them. And then there 1460 01:24:27,455 --> 01:24:30,295 Speaker 2: was a number of experts who are presenting on You know, 1461 01:24:30,415 --> 01:24:33,295 Speaker 2: for example, glenn Brook Steel Mill is putting in an 1462 01:24:33,375 --> 01:24:36,855 Speaker 2: electric arc furnace. Now that's going to be a significant 1463 01:24:36,935 --> 01:24:40,975 Speaker 2: change to how we make steel in New Zealand because suddenly, 1464 01:24:41,095 --> 01:24:44,095 Speaker 2: instead of a lot of carbon heavy products, we're going 1465 01:24:44,175 --> 01:24:46,655 Speaker 2: to be able to use electricity as part of that process. 1466 01:24:47,695 --> 01:24:50,295 Speaker 2: So there was lots of really technical stuff in there. Well, 1467 01:24:50,295 --> 01:24:53,975 Speaker 2: I tell you what. The thing that ne're listening to 1468 01:24:54,055 --> 01:24:57,495 Speaker 2: the presenters chatting with people, talk to a couple of 1469 01:24:57,495 --> 01:25:00,455 Speaker 2: people who have been on this program, for example, over 1470 01:25:00,495 --> 01:25:05,295 Speaker 2: the years, and my takeaway was, and I think this 1471 01:25:05,495 --> 01:25:09,135 Speaker 2: is a tremendous success for the Green Building Council New 1472 01:25:09,215 --> 01:25:12,055 Speaker 2: Zealand Green Building Council and the people that work there 1473 01:25:12,895 --> 01:25:17,215 Speaker 2: and the Elite leader Chief Executive Andrew Eagles, is that 1474 01:25:17,455 --> 01:25:22,175 Speaker 2: they have managed to make green buildings simply good buildings. 1475 01:25:22,855 --> 01:25:24,855 Speaker 2: So when people are talking about I'm going to get 1476 01:25:24,975 --> 01:25:29,375 Speaker 2: a Green Star rating for my office complex here in town, 1477 01:25:29,655 --> 01:25:32,655 Speaker 2: or my warehouses which can now be eligible for Green 1478 01:25:32,735 --> 01:25:35,735 Speaker 2: Star ratings as well, it's simply because they know in 1479 01:25:35,855 --> 01:25:38,775 Speaker 2: the end they're going to be just better buildings. So 1480 01:25:39,815 --> 01:25:43,935 Speaker 2: I've been involved with us for ten twelve thirteen years 1481 01:25:44,055 --> 01:25:46,295 Speaker 2: or thereabout. So did the Home Star course way back then, 1482 01:25:47,655 --> 01:25:49,695 Speaker 2: and then it was all about sort of green being 1483 01:25:49,815 --> 01:25:52,735 Speaker 2: a kind of political or a social movement and so on, 1484 01:25:52,895 --> 01:25:55,615 Speaker 2: Whereas I think what's really really interesting now is that 1485 01:25:55,735 --> 01:25:59,695 Speaker 2: green buildings are simply better buildings. It's as simple as that. 1486 01:26:00,415 --> 01:26:02,375 Speaker 2: You want a really good building that doesn't cost your 1487 01:26:02,455 --> 01:26:05,895 Speaker 2: fortune to heat or to call that's a healthier environment 1488 01:26:05,935 --> 01:26:07,975 Speaker 2: for people to live in. You're going to have a 1489 01:26:08,055 --> 01:26:11,335 Speaker 2: green building. And from commercial point of view, it seems 1490 01:26:11,375 --> 01:26:14,135 Speaker 2: that they are very very attractive to corporates who are 1491 01:26:14,175 --> 01:26:16,335 Speaker 2: looking for what's the best place for my people to 1492 01:26:16,415 --> 01:26:18,215 Speaker 2: work in. I'm going to get a green building, So 1493 01:26:19,015 --> 01:26:21,415 Speaker 2: hats off to the Green Building Council for being part 1494 01:26:21,455 --> 01:26:23,695 Speaker 2: of that movement. I thought it was a great day, 1495 01:26:23,735 --> 01:26:26,655 Speaker 2: actually really enjoy it. Lots of people, lots of passion, 1496 01:26:27,895 --> 01:26:32,495 Speaker 2: and phenomenal level of detail from the experts that were 1497 01:26:32,535 --> 01:26:34,935 Speaker 2: presenting too, So it was a great day. Rdio ten 1498 01:26:34,975 --> 01:26:36,935 Speaker 2: minutes after eight. You've got a couple of minutes if 1499 01:26:36,975 --> 01:26:39,055 Speaker 2: you'd like to jump in and ask a question before 1500 01:26:39,095 --> 01:26:42,215 Speaker 2: we change gear and get into the garden with Redcline past. 1501 01:26:42,655 --> 01:26:46,215 Speaker 2: Here's a great text we are doing alterations to a batch. 1502 01:26:46,695 --> 01:26:49,975 Speaker 2: I've lined the raking ceiling with standard ply. It's unpainted 1503 01:26:50,015 --> 01:26:51,535 Speaker 2: and we haven't been back for a couple of weeks, 1504 01:26:51,575 --> 01:26:54,535 Speaker 2: so it's been shut up as in the building's been 1505 01:26:54,575 --> 01:26:58,575 Speaker 2: closed in. I've noticed that there's mold starting to appear 1506 01:26:58,655 --> 01:27:01,575 Speaker 2: on parts, which I assume is from the moisture that's 1507 01:27:01,615 --> 01:27:03,775 Speaker 2: trapped in the room as we're unable to leave the 1508 01:27:03,815 --> 01:27:06,935 Speaker 2: windows open the rooms about six by seven. What's the 1509 01:27:07,055 --> 01:27:08,975 Speaker 2: best way to get rid of it? And should we 1510 01:27:09,135 --> 01:27:13,655 Speaker 2: be worried, we will paint it soon. There's two parts 1511 01:27:13,695 --> 01:27:15,455 Speaker 2: of that. There's the practical part of what do I 1512 01:27:15,575 --> 01:27:18,295 Speaker 2: do now that there's some mold growth on the ceiling. 1513 01:27:18,735 --> 01:27:21,895 Speaker 2: The other part of it is this is a perfect 1514 01:27:22,055 --> 01:27:28,815 Speaker 2: example of many of the concerns being raised about. We've 1515 01:27:28,895 --> 01:27:33,015 Speaker 2: got one part of the building envelope working properly in 1516 01:27:33,135 --> 01:27:35,655 Speaker 2: terms of air tightness, but we haven't got the other 1517 01:27:35,775 --> 01:27:38,975 Speaker 2: part of building science, the other balance to that, which 1518 01:27:39,055 --> 01:27:42,495 Speaker 2: is ventilation. And so this is a perfect example of 1519 01:27:42,535 --> 01:27:47,895 Speaker 2: what happens when buildings aren't able to be ventilated. The 1520 01:27:48,135 --> 01:27:51,135 Speaker 2: moisture will be there, the warmth will be there, and 1521 01:27:51,255 --> 01:27:54,335 Speaker 2: the combination of the truth too will promote mold growth. 1522 01:27:56,535 --> 01:27:58,855 Speaker 2: So no constellation to you, but thank you for that 1523 01:27:59,055 --> 01:28:03,695 Speaker 2: science experiment indicating what happens when we have moisture. Because 1524 01:28:03,695 --> 01:28:06,935 Speaker 2: it's new building products, right, they all contain moisture some degree. 1525 01:28:07,695 --> 01:28:11,335 Speaker 2: The framing will have moisture in it, the lining possibly 1526 01:28:11,375 --> 01:28:15,135 Speaker 2: will have moisture in it, and then you've closed that 1527 01:28:15,215 --> 01:28:17,295 Speaker 2: space up and so you've trapped all of that moisture 1528 01:28:17,335 --> 01:28:20,135 Speaker 2: and don't have the ventilation. So practical thing would be 1529 01:28:20,855 --> 01:28:22,735 Speaker 2: you're going to have to come back there. You're going 1530 01:28:22,815 --> 01:28:24,695 Speaker 2: to have to ventilate that space. You're gonna have to 1531 01:28:24,735 --> 01:28:26,895 Speaker 2: get the moisture content down, and then you're going to 1532 01:28:26,935 --> 01:28:31,335 Speaker 2: have to treat that plywood with something that will remove 1533 01:28:31,495 --> 01:28:35,495 Speaker 2: that mold and let it thoroughly dry out before if 1534 01:28:35,575 --> 01:28:37,415 Speaker 2: you're going to paint it, I'm presuming going to use 1535 01:28:37,495 --> 01:28:41,815 Speaker 2: like a flat paint on there, do the primer. If 1536 01:28:41,855 --> 01:28:45,335 Speaker 2: it's tongue and groove for example, it might be treated, 1537 01:28:45,375 --> 01:28:47,495 Speaker 2: in which case you probably need to use an oil 1538 01:28:47,535 --> 01:28:51,055 Speaker 2: based primer or a stain blocking primer and then paint. 1539 01:28:51,135 --> 01:28:53,575 Speaker 2: But it's going to be key to test the moisture 1540 01:28:53,615 --> 01:28:57,535 Speaker 2: content to make sure that you're down around seventeen eighteen 1541 01:28:57,615 --> 01:29:01,135 Speaker 2: degrees moisture content in that space before you start painting 1542 01:29:01,255 --> 01:29:04,255 Speaker 2: and treat that mold. But a fantastic example of what 1543 01:29:04,375 --> 01:29:07,455 Speaker 2: happens when we don't ventilate our bil things properly. Another 1544 01:29:07,535 --> 01:29:10,735 Speaker 2: quick one just before the break as well, just repairing 1545 01:29:10,775 --> 01:29:14,415 Speaker 2: a badly split window sill. What's the best glue and 1546 01:29:14,815 --> 01:29:19,455 Speaker 2: filler to fix and seal blue screw and builder's bog 1547 01:29:19,535 --> 01:29:23,175 Speaker 2: then paint. I would suggest Greg that if you can 1548 01:29:23,215 --> 01:29:26,295 Speaker 2: get like what was I using the other day, I 1549 01:29:26,415 --> 01:29:30,575 Speaker 2: think it's epiglass builder's glue, so a two part blue, 1550 01:29:31,655 --> 01:29:34,735 Speaker 2: mix it up, pop that into there, so increase the 1551 01:29:34,775 --> 01:29:37,295 Speaker 2: split a little bit, open it up, either clamp it 1552 01:29:37,535 --> 01:29:41,775 Speaker 2: or screw it together. And then increasingly I've been using 1553 01:29:41,855 --> 01:29:44,975 Speaker 2: this Epo Tech filler, which you'll have to go online 1554 01:29:45,055 --> 01:29:50,975 Speaker 2: to find a local distributor, so ep O Tec Epo Tech. Again, 1555 01:29:51,055 --> 01:29:55,095 Speaker 2: it's a two pot one. It takes twelve hours to cure, 1556 01:29:55,655 --> 01:29:58,935 Speaker 2: so it's a chemical reaction for it to cure. I 1557 01:29:59,055 --> 01:30:01,335 Speaker 2: found it really easy to sand when I've painted it. 1558 01:30:01,495 --> 01:30:06,215 Speaker 2: It actually takes paint really well, and that would be 1559 01:30:06,495 --> 01:30:10,015 Speaker 2: my approach. So a two pot adhesive and then a 1560 01:30:10,095 --> 01:30:13,815 Speaker 2: two pot filler as well, oh, eight hundred eighty ten 1561 01:30:13,895 --> 01:30:16,175 Speaker 2: eighty might have time for your calls, and then we're 1562 01:30:16,175 --> 01:30:18,935 Speaker 2: into the garden. Rid climb past will be with us shortly. 1563 01:30:18,855 --> 01:30:21,735 Speaker 1: Whether you're painting with ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering 1564 01:30:21,775 --> 01:30:23,935 Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. 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Couple of other texts have come through as well. 1589 01:31:49,855 --> 01:31:52,455 Speaker 2: Now this is a fairly serious one, I think, Wendy 1590 01:31:54,375 --> 01:31:55,335 Speaker 2: hopefully still listening. 1591 01:31:55,695 --> 01:31:55,935 Speaker 11: Pete. 1592 01:31:55,975 --> 01:31:58,895 Speaker 2: I recently bought an older house that's been rewired, including 1593 01:31:59,135 --> 01:32:02,735 Speaker 2: undergrounding from the road. I now understand that this should 1594 01:32:02,855 --> 01:32:07,375 Speaker 2: have a certificate of compliance as COC it does. I 1595 01:32:07,455 --> 01:32:09,855 Speaker 2: believe the real estate agent should have known this and 1596 01:32:09,975 --> 01:32:12,575 Speaker 2: declared that it didn't. Could I go back to the 1597 01:32:12,655 --> 01:32:15,295 Speaker 2: agent and get them or the seller to rectify this. 1598 01:32:16,295 --> 01:32:20,535 Speaker 2: When you say recently bought, I presume that's sometime in 1599 01:32:20,655 --> 01:32:28,095 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Would should the real estate 1600 01:32:28,135 --> 01:32:30,815 Speaker 2: agent have known only if they were informed by the 1601 01:32:31,135 --> 01:32:34,935 Speaker 2: owner by the vendor right either way. I mean, I 1602 01:32:35,095 --> 01:32:36,935 Speaker 2: find it hard to believe that there's not a paper 1603 01:32:37,015 --> 01:32:39,735 Speaker 2: trail for the undergrounding of power because in the end, 1604 01:32:40,295 --> 01:32:46,335 Speaker 2: while a electrician could do the trenching, put the conduit in, 1605 01:32:46,775 --> 01:32:49,215 Speaker 2: maybe even put the mains, they can't connect to the 1606 01:32:49,295 --> 01:32:53,575 Speaker 2: pole right, and they they need to get that signed 1607 01:32:53,615 --> 01:32:58,015 Speaker 2: off by since the power company. Right, they'll send out 1608 01:32:58,015 --> 01:33:00,455 Speaker 2: an inspector. So there should be a paper trail for that. 1609 01:33:00,935 --> 01:33:05,415 Speaker 2: But certainly any electrical work should have a certificate of 1610 01:33:05,655 --> 01:33:12,975 Speaker 2: compliance without a doubt. So yes, you could go back 1611 01:33:13,015 --> 01:33:14,495 Speaker 2: to the cellar and say, hey, look do you have 1612 01:33:14,615 --> 01:33:17,015 Speaker 2: the paperwork to support the work that's been done, if 1613 01:33:17,055 --> 01:33:23,175 Speaker 2: that work was done recently. Again, last year sometime I 1614 01:33:23,295 --> 01:33:27,415 Speaker 2: was involved with a project where overhead lines were being 1615 01:33:27,495 --> 01:33:29,695 Speaker 2: removed and so they had underground to a property that 1616 01:33:29,775 --> 01:33:32,295 Speaker 2: I'd done some work on, and I was able to 1617 01:33:32,375 --> 01:33:34,935 Speaker 2: talk to the contractors about how they were going to 1618 01:33:35,055 --> 01:33:38,095 Speaker 2: get onto the property, which what was the pathway for 1619 01:33:38,255 --> 01:33:41,415 Speaker 2: the underground cable, how they were going to get the 1620 01:33:41,535 --> 01:33:44,975 Speaker 2: new cable which previously had been overhead to come up 1621 01:33:45,095 --> 01:33:47,575 Speaker 2: and into the distribution or to the meter box on 1622 01:33:47,615 --> 01:33:49,495 Speaker 2: the outside of the building, and at the end of 1623 01:33:49,535 --> 01:33:52,175 Speaker 2: that they sent me through the paperwork to say who 1624 01:33:52,255 --> 01:33:54,295 Speaker 2: had done it, who'd inspected it, and it was kind 1625 01:33:54,295 --> 01:33:56,935 Speaker 2: of double checked by two different inspectors because obviously it's 1626 01:33:57,175 --> 01:34:00,655 Speaker 2: incredibly high risk work putting in a new Maine so yes, 1627 01:34:00,815 --> 01:34:03,375 Speaker 2: there should be paperwork for that, RIGHTO, We're going to 1628 01:34:03,415 --> 01:34:05,175 Speaker 2: take a short break, then we're going to jump into 1629 01:34:05,255 --> 01:34:08,695 Speaker 2: the garden. Ad pass with us through till eight forty five, 1630 01:34:08,735 --> 01:34:12,975 Speaker 2: when we'll hand over to our sports team. Cool, squeaky 1631 01:34:13,015 --> 01:34:14,655 Speaker 2: door or squeaky floor. 1632 01:34:14,895 --> 01:34:18,175 Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder 1633 01:34:18,415 --> 01:34:22,695 Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB. For more from the Resident Builder 1634 01:34:22,775 --> 01:34:25,695 Speaker 1: with Peter Wolfcamp, listen live to News Talk SEDB on 1635 01:34:25,815 --> 01:34:29,415 Speaker 1: Sunday mornings from six, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio