1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Callahan UK correspondence with that's hello. 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Elizabeth, Hello Heather, how are you, Mike. Great to be 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: with you again. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: I cannot believe the absolute cluster that happened with that 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: migrant six offend. How did that even happen? 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, yesterday the Justice Secretary David Lammy was in Parliament 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: being grilled in a House of Commons by MP's into 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: how on earth a forty eight year old asylum seeker 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: who had been convicted of a number of sexual assaults 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: was accidentally released from prison and left to roam the 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: streets for forty eight hours. He went off to London. 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: But you know this, apparently, no surprise, was a human error. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: According to the Justice Secretary, he has announced an independent 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: investigation into exactly what went wrong. The prison h MP 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Chelmsford is in Essex, in the southeast of the country 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: and this was a really high profile case of this 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: offender who had come over from Ethiopia on a small 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: boat back in June. In July he committed an offense 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: against a fourteen year old girl and another woman as well. 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: It led to huge protests outside the migrant hotel where 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: he had been staying in Epping in Essex and then 22 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: he was sentenced to twelve months last month in September 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: and jailed and that was where we thought he would 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: be spending most of his time before being deported. So 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: he had been due to be transferred to an immigration 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: detention center but instead was released into the community. It's 27 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: you know that there have been extra checks are already 28 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: being put on. They're effective immediately. That's another thing that 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Justice Secretary has announced, but really huge questions to be 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: It's a massive embarrassment for the government as to how 31 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: this person was at large. Fortunately was re released very 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: quickly earlier over the weekend. David Lammy, the Justice actually 33 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: said that he would be deported today later today, but 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: yesterday or this week, But yesterday he didn't mention that again, 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: so I'm not sure what's going on with that, but 36 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: I think the quicker that he is deported, the better 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: it's going to look for the government. 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely couldn't agree more. Now, what do you think the 39 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: King needs to do about Andrew given that this has 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: got to Hickling territory. 41 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: I couldn't possibly give my own opinion on that, but 42 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: it's again a huge embarrassment for the King, for the 43 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: whole of the royal family who have Prince Andrew and 44 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: his connections to Epstein, the fact that he's been living 45 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: in this thirty room mansion for several years, rent free 46 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: for twenty years with his ex wife. Yesterday, the King 47 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: was doing the rounds during a visit to the cathedral, 48 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: greeting crowds as he often does so so well with 49 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: members of the public, when a protester who had got 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: into the crowd shouted out, how long have you known 51 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: about Andrew and Epstein? Have you asked the police to 52 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: cover it up for Andrew? And then he went on 53 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: to say should MPs be allowed to debate the royals 54 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: in the House of Commons, which is something that certainly 55 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: the liberal Demotocrats are trying to get to get done. 56 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: But the King, ever professional, didn't respond to the questions, 57 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: carried on greeting fans as he would and actually a 58 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: lot of the people people that come out and greet 59 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: the Queen the King a generally big royalists, so a 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: lot of them were very annoyed that this man was 61 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: upsetting the whole event, was telling him to shut up 62 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: and go, oh, go away, go leave him alone, Leave 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: the King alone. So yes, at the moment the situation 64 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew, you know, there's newspaper story after newspaper story. 65 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: The latest thing is his living arrangements, as I said, 66 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: and it looks like he may move out of this 67 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: Thursday bedroom mansion, the Royal Lodge on the Crown Escape 68 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Estate in Windsor potentially going to Prince Harry and Meghan's 69 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: old class Frogmore cottage. But then he also apparently and 70 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: the Palace is not commenting on any of his living arrangements. 71 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: Sarah Ferguson his ex wife. He wants her to have 72 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Adelaide Cottage, which is where the Prince and Princess so 73 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: Welles will be moving out of next month. So whether 74 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: he'll get his way, whether he deserves anything, frankly, you know, 75 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: but of course he denies any wrongdoing in regards to 76 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: any of the allegations against him. But certainly there is 77 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: starting to be an appetite for a debate in the 78 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: comments about his living arrangements which effectively come out of 79 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: taxpayers money and his connection with Epstein. 80 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, as they should be. Hey, thank you very much, 81 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: really appreciate Elizabeth. That's Elizabeth Callahan, UK correspondent for more 82 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, Listen live to news talks 83 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 84 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio