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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Have I been boring you in the last five minutes

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Speaker 3: No, I actually enjoy talking to people who don't have

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Speaker 1: Fantastic what I find fascinating about what you do. And

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Speaker 3: So one massive thing that we talked about and we

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Speaker 1: Individual events that you were so good at at what

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Speaker 3: I you know, I think at the start of a

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Speaker 3: new Olympic cycle, obviously we do a lot of infliction

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Speaker 3: and planning for the future. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of it isn't what is the field doing,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, how can I make myself better? Knowing

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Speaker 3: that every single athlete in the field is also thinking

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Speaker 3: the same thing. So we don't know what's going to

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Speaker 3: happen in terms of everyone else's development. What I can

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Speaker 3: control is my development, and that's what I'm going to

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Speaker 3: focus on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are your weak points?

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Speaker 2: My weak points? I'd say.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about this a little earlier, but

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Speaker 3: I think I have a lot to do in the gym,

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Speaker 3: in the upper body.

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Speaker 2: That is a massive thing for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm quite messy on my bike, especially when I'm absolutely fatigued.

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Speaker 3: I do, you know, flip a little a little bit

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Speaker 3: all over the show. So I think for me, it's just, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the first thing is that stability, that strength, but of

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Speaker 3: course always consistency in training. Not that I haven't had

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Speaker 3: that and not that I don't do that, but you know,

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Speaker 3: this year has been up and down with the crash

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Speaker 3: and all of that kind of stuff. So I think

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Speaker 3: for me, it's just consistency and getting all those little

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Speaker 1: One of the best things about the whole games for

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Speaker 1: me and watching you, was it the end. I can't

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Speaker 1: remember what med it was, but you said, I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of how I carried myself through this. Where does that

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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of the whole entire week because of

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Speaker 3: how massive it was.

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Speaker 2: I knew that it was going to be like that

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Speaker 2: going in.

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Speaker 3: I knew that, you know, all going well, I was

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Speaker 3: going to be racing every day, six days, and that's

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Speaker 3: scary and it's daunting and looking at that from the

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Speaker 3: beginning of a competition is a lot. So I think

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Speaker 3: to get to the end where I sort of was

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Speaker 3: feeling those emotions, I was so proud of how I

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Speaker 3: turned up every day. But even when I was exhausted,

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Speaker 3: I turned up and I made sure to give absolutely

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Speaker 1: Fantastic.

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Speaker 3: When's your next tournament in November? Yeah, so I'm very

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Speaker 3: excited for that. It's it's quite a fun little league,

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Speaker 3: and so I hit to Europe for that, a.

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Speaker 1: Fun little leg. Once you're a gold middle it's a

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Speaker 1: fun little thing. I'll between the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm very excited for it. It's sort of like

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Speaker 3: the only the only event in the year that's that's

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Speaker 3: more about entertainment than it is about Yeah, getting out there.

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Speaker 1: Well was congratulations on it all, well done, been great

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Speaker 1: to me and talk with you. Appreciate it very much

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