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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: Today the Labor Party gets together a list of promises

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Speaker 3: and whether they mean any things. Zelenski blinks on territory

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Speaker 3: and the rebels are fired up in Syria. We're looking

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Speaker 3: to launch our own state controlled satellites, apparently, lads in

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Speaker 3: the commentary Bucks after a g Richard Ardel and Thanksgiving

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Speaker 3: Comer and Stea Lights as If Pasky, Welcome to the week,

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Speaker 3: seven past six. The National Public Health Service are exactly

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with this country? The Health Minister, who shouldn't

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Speaker 3: have had to intervene over the weekend and their submission

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Speaker 3: to the district council looking at the application for McDonald's

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Speaker 3: and Wonaica. Now, why was the Health Service offering a

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Speaker 3: submission because the council asked them to. So who's more

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Speaker 3: at fault? The answer, of course is both of them.

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Speaker 3: But who's more at fault the Council for creating work

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Speaker 3: in waste or the service for creating work in waste?

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Speaker 3: The Health Service, among other things, talked of health. They

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Speaker 3: talked of health and the widest possible context, the World

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Speaker 3: Health Organization context, which essentially means anything can be dragged

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Speaker 3: into the health sphere if you are determined, in my word,

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Speaker 3: where they determined, they won't be in future because Shane

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Speaker 3: Ricky told them to stop wasting everybody's time. And the

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Speaker 3: ironing of the outcome is the submission wasn't even correct,

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Speaker 3: hinting perhaps that these people have little of any knowledge

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Speaker 3: of what they're actually doing and simply fill their days

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Speaker 3: with pointless exercises. They cited tatiity. Of course, what tatillity

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Speaker 3: has to do with fries and a chocolate shake. I've

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Speaker 3: got no idea, and I suspect they don't either. But

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Speaker 3: that is why this is also criminal. Tatillity is everywhere

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Speaker 3: for no particular purpose. It's over reach is reached well

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Speaker 3: the point of absurdity. So hundreds of submissions, days of

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Speaker 3: hearings and the treaty and a government department admolished by

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Speaker 3: the minister. That's why nothing gets done, and that is

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Speaker 3: why this country is in the state. It's these people

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Speaker 3: want to sell a Hamburg. They want to employ locals,

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Speaker 3: they want to contribute to the growth of the community.

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Speaker 3: They want to pay their tax. They simply want to

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Speaker 3: do business. Why is the industry and the apparatus in

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Speaker 3: not doing business so vast, so complicated, so expensive, and

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Speaker 3: so wasteful. And who's blowing it up and win.

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Speaker 4: Views of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: It's not what the election used to smart defection find

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Speaker 3: one the Irish, but the other two major parties look

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Speaker 3: set to count a deal. So this bloke is back.

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Speaker 5: Anybody who makes any projection about who is going to

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Speaker 5: be the largest party or the construct of the next government,

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Speaker 5: I think they're a braver person that I am. But

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Speaker 5: what I am very confident about is in my party

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Speaker 5: we'll have a very significant role to play in the

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Speaker 5: years ahead. And I'm cautiously optimistic and excited.

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Speaker 3: Out of the Trump victory. Comes to the appointment this

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Speaker 3: morning of Cash Bettel is the head of the FBI.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't want the status quo. He wants to clean house.

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Speaker 6: He wants an FDI that's accountable to the American people,

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Speaker 6: that restores our system of justice and restores credibility. They've

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Speaker 6: lost all credibility right now. And I think this is

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Speaker 6: a tremendous pick. I think it's really exciting what President

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Speaker 6: Trump has put out the end.

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Speaker 3: Of the great immigration divide in the UK, so Friday

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Speaker 3: Stam who was giving speeches looking to have a good crackdown,

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Speaker 3: but the net fig is vice for last year look

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Speaker 7: Some of the measures that we have put in place

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Speaker 7: will is already bring. They are already bearing fruit as

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Speaker 7: we've seen the removal, for example, of the ability of

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Speaker 7: international students to bring dependence. That is the main reason

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Speaker 7: why immigration has gone down in these latest figures.

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Speaker 3: But trouble for labor. It's all very well having targets,

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Speaker 8: So setting a number and seeing that's the magic let's

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Speaker 8: say it was one hundred thousand or two hundred dozand

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Speaker 8: or whatever it was. What happens when we need a

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Speaker 8: skilled worker for the two hundred and first thousand jobs exactly.

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Speaker 3: Then we have the Greg Wallace Mastership disaster. Greg decided

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Speaker 3: that taking to social media would help us cause.

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Speaker 9: In the newspaper, I can see the complaints coming from

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Speaker 9: a handful of middle class women of a certain age,

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Speaker 4: This isn't right.

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Speaker 3: Kirsty Alsop of Location Location local decided, as she quite

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Speaker 10: Within an hour of meeting grab ballis this is what

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Speaker 10: she put on X. He told me of a sex

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Speaker 10: act that he and his partner at the time enjoyed

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Speaker 10: every morning. And then she signed off that first tweet

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Speaker 10: by saying, I'm a hashtag middle class woman at a

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Speaker 3: Finally, the treasure hunt is. John Collins Black has written

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Speaker 3: a book called The Treasure in Sight. It was inspired

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Speaker 3: by games like Dungeons and Dragons. Inside a hints as

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Speaker 3: to where the five chests are around the US must

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Speaker 3: be might be inside on and we got we got

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Speaker 3: sports memorabilia, we got gold, we got stones, we've got jewelry,

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Speaker 3: we got rare Pokemon cards. Each chest is actually worth

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Speaker 3: a couple of million dollars.

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Speaker 11: He says.

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Speaker 3: None of the chests are in dangerous areas that require

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Speaker 3: going up, mountains, are underwater, and if some remain hidden,

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Speaker 3: He's going to write a second book in a couple

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Speaker 3: of years time. News of the World of note. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the interesting thing about the Irish folk one well, it

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Speaker 3: the poles turned out to be dangerously accurate. So Shinfein

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Speaker 3: technically won with twenty one point one, fine, Gael at

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Speaker 3: twenty one and fail at nineteen point five. But Gale

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Speaker 3: and fail of course, as you if you followed Irish

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Speaker 3: politics had the last government and so they'll form the

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Speaker 3: next government so someone can win, but they don't get

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Speaker 3: to be a winner. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: Evy can't even tell you what a cluster, the quitar races,

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Speaker 3: Hultenberg's out, Periers gone, Strolls gone, or Corn's gone, Colar

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Speaker 3: Pinto's gone, Hamilton Screwgy's about to finish. Norris is under investigation.

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Speaker 3: Sonoda and Lawson are on softs. They're at the back

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Speaker 3: Fifteen past six. Eurozone inflation, by the way, which was

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Speaker 3: Management Morning. More so, oh, come on, it's Christmas time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the A and Z Roy Morgan consumer

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Speaker 2: confidence So yeah, that's againting the celebratory mood. Things are

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Speaker 2: appear to be the factors, so offsetting and rising unemployment

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Speaker 2: of course. But the report was titled optimistically almost back

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Speaker 2: at par so future conditions they are up. Perceptions of

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Speaker 2: still negative. Some regional differences. Won't surprise Wellingtonians that they

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Speaker 2: But overall a net twenty two percent appear to be

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Speaker 2: up eight points. House price inflation that's seen as lifting

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Speaker 2: Perceptions regarding the economic OUTLOK twelve months time rose eleven points,

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Speaker 2: thirteen percent say it's a bad time. But that is

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Speaker 2: and they do seem to be taking some convincing on

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Speaker 2: So those they'd see two year inflation expectations at four percent,

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Speaker 2: still very tough out there for many, but you will

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we well, just speaking of positives the

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Speaker 3: Black Friday, the Thanksgiving business seems to be going well stateside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to game very well, particularly online. So

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Speaker 2: retail sales on the the day after Thanksgiving they grew

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Speaker 2: three point four percent according to a master card that's

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Speaker 2: we've had this Black Friday thing for about I suppose

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Speaker 2: the rowdy tourists, and chaoses ensued well, and perhaps kiwis

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Speaker 3: Rowdy preps might nice.

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Speaker 3: What are the numbers?

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Speaker 2: So we've got a positive end of the week as

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Speaker 2: well in the US. Obviously fairly light trading given Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: but the day up point four percent to a new

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Speaker 2: up against Ozzie ninety point nine, stealing forty six point four.

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Speaker 2: That's flat. Just looking ahead this week, speaking of salesforce

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Speaker 3: focused on getting through. Well, it's time to give yourself

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Speaker 3: getting a loan from a bank. In fact, taxi funding

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Speaker 3: summer break, knowing that you've got a source a business

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Speaker 3: funding available. So for businesses business purposes only teas and

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Speaker 3: to learn that we've got yet another accident because of

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Speaker 3: a vessel on autopilot. No kidding, you think you dismayed?

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Speaker 3: And for goodness sake, should be the biggest scandal. We

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Speaker 3: should be doing nothing but talking about the sort of

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Speaker 3: stuff this morning we will after seven o'clock six forty five.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ENSI Eye Insurance. Peace of mind for

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Speaker 1: New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Richard Arnold, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh well, good wedding.

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Speaker 11: Way.

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Speaker 3: Now the FBI picked another interesting choice.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's another confirmation paddle ahead, it seems, with Trump

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Speaker 16: naming cash for Teller is his choice to head the agency.

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Speaker 16: Patella is someone who has been signed by side with

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Speaker 16: Trump for some years now, speaking out on the need

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Speaker 16: for retribution against what he calls the deep state. Now

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Speaker 16: there are several contentious choice through his cabinet and other aids,

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Speaker 16: of course, but this could be the biggest one of them.

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Speaker 16: After the first Trump term, Bill Barr, who served as

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Speaker 16: Trump's ag wrote in his memoir that Cash Pateel was

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Speaker 16: suggested at one point as someone who might become deputy

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Speaker 16: in the FBI. Over my dead body, wrote Bill Barr.

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Speaker 16: In a recent interview, Patel has said he wants to

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Speaker 16: shut down the FBI headquarters and then reopen the place

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Speaker 16: as a museum after seating all power to the president,

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Speaker 16: and Patel said, quote, We're going to come after the

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Speaker 16: people in the media who lied about American citizens who

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Speaker 16: helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections end quote. So Patell

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Speaker 16: has signed on to the campaign statements by Donald Trump

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Speaker 16: that he would carry out quote retribution against quote unquote

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Speaker 16: the enemies in the side. One initial issue is that

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Speaker 16: the FBI post isn't open. The current FBI Director, Chris Ray,

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Speaker 16: has more than three years left in his ten year

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Speaker 16: term unless he resigns under pressure or is sacked by Trump.

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Speaker 16: Ray was appointed by Donald Trump during his first term,

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Speaker 16: but their relationship soured early on, and then things worsened

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Speaker 16: when the FBI issued search warrant for classified documents that

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Speaker 16: Trump had refused to return and kept in the barthroom

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Speaker 16: and elsewhere at more Lago. That case, of course, collapsed

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Speaker 16: with Trump's reelection. Jake Sullivan, the current National Security Advisor, says,

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Speaker 16: the FBI role has been shaped so it does not

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Speaker 16: become a partisan operation.

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Speaker 21: We would like to ensure that the FBI remains an

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Speaker 21: independent institution insulated from politics.

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Speaker 16: Well, we'll see why, don't we. Some Republicans agree with

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Speaker 16: that this has yet to be determined. They've been remarkably

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Speaker 16: weak in defending US government systems when they're challenged by Trump.

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Speaker 16: Democratic Senator Chris Murphy says he is a no vote

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Speaker 16: on Patel.

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Speaker 22: Caspartel's only qualification is because he agrees with Donald Trump

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Speaker 22: that the Department of Justice should serve to punish, lock

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Speaker 22: up and intimidate Donald Trump's political opponents.

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Speaker 16: Well, Patel was alongside Trump during much of his New

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Speaker 16: York trial. He has also taken in hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 16: of dollars a year in advising Trump related groups. So

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Speaker 16: this will be in a historic confirmation fight.

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Speaker 3: And we got the hostage video.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was brutal.

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Speaker 16: The release of that three and a half minute hostage

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Speaker 16: video showing one of the Americans held captive, Eden Alexander,

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Speaker 16: basically pleading for his life. His mum has reacted.

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Speaker 1: Wendy cried, I just want to hold them and I

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Speaker 1: want him to know that we are doing everything that

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Speaker 1: we can to bring him home well.

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Speaker 16: President Biden also has responded with this message to Hamas.

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Speaker 16: We are working actively, says the President, in relation to

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Speaker 16: all of this, the only way out is to release

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Speaker 16: the hostages, including American citizens, which.

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Speaker 11: They hold well.

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Speaker 16: National Security Advisor Sullivan is offering some hope. Perhaps take

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Speaker 16: a listen to what he's saying.

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Speaker 21: We are working actively to try to make it happen.

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Speaker 21: We are engaged deeply with the key players in the region,

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Speaker 21: and there is activity even today. There will be further

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Speaker 21: conversations and consultations, and our hope is that we can

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Speaker 21: generate a ceasefire and hostage deal.

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Speaker 17: But we're not there.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I've had similar comments so many times, haven't we.

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Speaker 16: Even Alexander has been health more than four hundred and

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Speaker 16: twenty days, totally inhumane in the midst of his ongoing

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Speaker 16: in humanity all round, All.

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Speaker 3: Right, catch up Wednesday, appreciate it. Richard Arnold states, so,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Greg gave us the US numbers or

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Speaker 3: some of the US numbers out of Thanksgiving in Black Friday, spending,

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Speaker 3: Cyber Monday and all that sort of stuff looks like

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Speaker 3: a record in Australia as well. Roy Morgan and forecasting

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Speaker 3: six point seven billion over the four days. That'll be

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Speaker 3: the biggest on record, five point five percent increase compared

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Speaker 3: with twelve months ago. Retailers quote unquote a feeling cautiously optimistic,

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Speaker 3: which is good here from all my reading, and we

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Speaker 3: won't get anything until today. Sometime didn't look nearly as good.

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Speaker 3: It was over hyped, I think. So we'll report on

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Speaker 3: the numbers tomorrow. For you're ten to seven.

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Speaker 4: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate used talk.

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Speaker 3: Zby I have for you this morning. The twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five World's Best Cities Report Resonance, in collaboration with IPSOS,

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Speaker 3: talked to a lot of people twenty two thousand people

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Speaker 3: around the world in thirty countries. They looked at liverability, lovability,

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Speaker 3: and prosperity, which are very world category. So I'm deeply

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Speaker 3: suspicious of the whole thing. But it's Christmas, so let's

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Speaker 3: have some fun. So Singapore tenth most lovable city in

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Speaker 3: the world, mainly because of the food seen in the shopping.

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Speaker 3: Berlin because it's ig call that is true. Do buy

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Speaker 3: at number eight because basically they are the world's playground

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Speaker 3: now and I think that's probably fair as well. Madrid

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Speaker 3: it's seven. You don't want to be defined as a

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Speaker 3: tourist because they'll squit you with a water pistol. But

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Speaker 3: apart from that, they got a lot of parks and

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Speaker 3: they got a lot of outdoor spaces, which as far

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Speaker 3: as I can work out, it's the same things. An

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Speaker 3: outdoor space is a park in a park as an

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Speaker 3: outdoor space. But if you're happy in Madrid, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Seventh most lovable city in the world. That Hellna is

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Speaker 3: number six. Once again, don't identify yourself as a tourist

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Speaker 3: because they'll run you out of town. But it's got

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Speaker 3: good night life's got good beaches, got good sunshine. So

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Speaker 3: that's the sixth most lovable city in the world. Number

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Speaker 3: five Rome because of its history, so that's useful. Tokyo

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Speaker 3: restaurants and shopping. I'm sure there's more to Tokyo I mean,

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Speaker 3: having been Tokyo, there's more than that, mind you. All

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Speaker 3: I did was eating shops, so I spoke, what do

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Speaker 3: I to? So that's the fourth most lovable city in

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Speaker 3: New York, New York cultural, really New York cultural. I

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Speaker 3: suppose top tier dining. Second most lovable city Paris for

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Speaker 3: the shopping and the sight seeing and the way the

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Speaker 3: French welcome you so openly and kindly to their city.

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Speaker 3: In London, there you go. Museums and nightlife in London.

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Speaker 14: It's quite contrast, isn't it. Museums are It's quite a

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Speaker 14: contrast museums and nightlife.

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Speaker 3: Because they're not open late, so you're obviously doing something

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Speaker 3: after the museums are closed. All the museums close at five,

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Speaker 3: if not four, certainly not open on a Friday. I'm joking,

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Speaker 3: five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 4: All the ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fears with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 3: Germany's problems now infecting other people in the EU. So

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Speaker 3: when Germany gets a cold, as they say, Switzerland gets

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Speaker 3: the flu, Germany's a bar good case. So the alarm

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Speaker 3: bells are going off in Switzerland. The Swiss manufacturing sector

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Speaker 3: huge hits lately due to the current weakness in the

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Speaker 3: German industry. The Switzerland's top trading partner, the Swiss National Bank,

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Speaker 3: the SMB. They're set to make their next interest rate

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Speaker 3: cut in a couple of weeks. So far this year,

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Speaker 3: they've dropped their rate three times. They're now down to

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Speaker 3: one percent, so not much room there for movement. More

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Speaker 3: cuts to come. Seventy two percent possibility, they're telling us

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Speaker 3: for a twenty twenty eight percent chance of fifty. This

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Speaker 3: is all happening December twelve, by the way, can you

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Speaker 3: believe it's December? How mad's that the cuts have come

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Speaker 3: after inflation slowed? How much has it slowed a lot?

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Speaker 3: Inflation tends to slow when you're not doing anything as

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Speaker 3: an economy. We'd know about that zero point six percent

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Speaker 3: lowest than three years. It's within the SMB's targets, everyone's

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Speaker 3: target of zero point two percent. So that's been in

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Speaker 3: between the margin for eighteen months now. So they got

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Speaker 3: some real problems. They clearly don't have the important inflation

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Speaker 3: that we tend to have in this country. With the insurance.

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Speaker 3: I assume they've got insurance country problems. Assume they've got

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Speaker 3: local councils that are charging everybody too much. Andrew Little,

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Speaker 3: Labor Party conference over the weekend. Weird think the best

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Speaker 3: thing I think the Labor Party did over the weekend

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Speaker 3: was picked the Isaac Theater. I mean, that is a

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Speaker 3: fantastic place. If you haven't seen that since the refurbishment.

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Speaker 3: What a beautiful place to pick. So at least the

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Speaker 3: Atmos was good. They handed out a price to a

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Speaker 3: Nyama Hootera. I mean, that's the most astonishing thing. The

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Speaker 3: most incompetent foreign minister of the modern age loses a seat, vanishes,

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Speaker 3: and then she pops back after a year to pick

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Speaker 3: up a prize.

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Speaker 14: Was it like a wooden spoon or something.

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Speaker 3: It was like a really good prize. They thought she

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Speaker 3: was fantastic. It was a you're a really cool person prize.

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, come on anyway, Andrew Little is whether

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Speaker 3: it's after seven o'clock and then Chris Hipkins joins us

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Speaker 3: after seven thirty Monday morning. Sport of course, got to

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Speaker 3: get into that guy Hervelt and Andrew seven on the

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Speaker 3: commentary box. Meantime, the news is it is beautiful.

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Speaker 4: See it.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fuse the Mike Hosking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 3: Togs dad be falling seven past seven, So the Labour

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Speaker 3: Party picked the very nice spot of the Isaac Theater

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Speaker 3: and Christach to have their annual gab fest. Orcus has gone.

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Speaker 3: The Dunedin Hospital has originally promised us back in the

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Speaker 3: tobacco tax break on heated products is canceled. Bit of

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Speaker 3: a sledge at the government as well.

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Speaker 14: Look back at our history.

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Speaker 4: We excel when we bring people.

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Speaker 20: Together rather than drive them apart as this government seems to.

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Speaker 4: Want to do.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 3: The former Labor leader Andrew Little is with us. Very

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Speaker 3: good morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 3: What'd you make of it? What's the vibe?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think I think, you know, for a party

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Speaker 19: in the first year in opposition after a pretty slammed

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Speaker 19: set of result last year, they felt it together. Well

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Speaker 19: during the year it's been very disciplined. They know is

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Speaker 19: they've acknowledged things they got wrong. Well, we got wrong

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Speaker 19: in government. Things have to change and I guess this

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Speaker 19: was about checking out what the change starts to look like.

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Speaker 3: What's happened with Orcust given it started with you, and

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Speaker 3: it's sort of been this mysterious Pillar two thing and

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Speaker 3: we'll have a think in a chat and we'll work

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Speaker 3: something out and then suddenly it's gone.

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Speaker 17: What happened there, Well, good christ, I think.

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Speaker 19: I mean the reality about it is the species they

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Speaker 19: talked about not signing up to a nuclear sort of

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Speaker 19: war things, well, the reality is we were never signed

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Speaker 19: up to the nucro propelled submarines part of it, and

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Speaker 19: on all the things that in aucus, that's the one

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Speaker 19: thing that is likely to collapse because it's always needed

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Speaker 19: the approval of US Congress. It hasn't got that in

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Speaker 19: the last two and a half years, it's unlikely to

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Speaker 19: get it now for some time, so they'll probably go.

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Speaker 19: The other part of it was joining with our long

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Speaker 19: standing traditional partners UK, Australia and the US on developing

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Speaker 19: new defense technology for stuff that'st of used to us,

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Speaker 19: like remote maritime patrolling, that sort of thing. Saying we'

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Speaker 19: I'm going to sign up to it is kind of

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Speaker 19: one thing. I think the lost opportunity there in the

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Speaker 19: weekend was to say we understand that our natural security

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Speaker 19: and defense needs our changing because the situation is changing,

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Speaker 19: and this is what i've because the reality is this

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Speaker 19: current government having promised, for example, a defense capability plan,

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Speaker 19: which is the list of new investments back in June,

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Speaker 19: then to September, we still don't have it, So there's

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Speaker 19: a bit of dithering going on. Later could have distinguished

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Speaker 19: themselves in that respect exactly.

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Speaker 3: So what are we saying with the Pillar two thing

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Speaker 3: that we don't want to be closer to America and

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Speaker 3: we like China, or we're not saying that.

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Speaker 15: I don't know.

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Speaker 19: I don't quite know what the post position is that

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Speaker 19: in ours that we're not signing up to August August.

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Speaker 19: I don't know what that means in practice, because those

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Speaker 19: three partners are partners who will get most of our

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Speaker 19: defense technology from that. Anyway, we'll always get it from them,

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Speaker 19: So we're not signing up to that. We still have

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Speaker 19: to have a relationship with them what we're going to

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Speaker 19: and we still need new defense cat So I suppose

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Speaker 19: what I guess would have hoped for is a bit

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Speaker 19: of an indication about how we're going to manage those

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Speaker 19: relationships in the future.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of maritime surveillance, As the next Minister of Defense,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of the man and the revelation

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Speaker 3: that no one seems to know how to work an autopilot.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it seems to be comminent the maritime genevi out

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Speaker 19: of Teddy. But yeah, it's disappointing to see.

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Speaker 17: I mean that was you know, that was.

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Speaker 19: It displays an important role for our navy and our

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Speaker 19: relationship with the South Pacific country. It's really disappointing to

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Speaker 19: see what happened. I think due to the Collins is

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Speaker 19: right to express their disappointment, and I guess it's the

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Speaker 19: next thing is to see who's going to be held

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Speaker 19: responsible for it with the next stage of the Court

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Speaker 19: of Inquiry's cly.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you appreciate it. Andrew Little, former

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Speaker 3: labour leader, former defense industry of course. Ten minutes past seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the August thing's weird. I just don't understand it. It

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Speaker 3: seems to have come from nowhere. There seems to be

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Speaker 3: no logical explanation for it. We supposedly didn't know anything

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Speaker 3: about it. Anyway, We'll talk to Chris Hepkins about it

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Speaker 3: in about twenty minutes or they're about now. A couple

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Speaker 3: of international developments over the weekend. One Zelenski seems to

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Speaker 3: have blinked Russia and have some territory if Ukraine gets

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Speaker 3: to join NATO to the Syrian walls back former UK

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Speaker 3: defense attashe in Moscow, John Foreman's with us from Britain

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Speaker 3: morning or indeed does Zelensky move over the weekend week

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Speaker 3: or not?

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Speaker 13: No, I think it was a good idea. I mean,

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Speaker 13: obviously this is all about Donald Trump, and missus Lensky said,

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Speaker 13: actually his interviewed, that there'll be no ideas, that everything

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Speaker 13: needs to be more detailed. So I think missus Lenski

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Speaker 13: is trying to fill the void by putting forwards her

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Speaker 13: proposals ahead of January when Trump becomes president.

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Speaker 3: So when putincy is also we can rely on Trump.

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Speaker 3: You know, smart man, he'll sort something out. What's he

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Speaker 3: gunning for?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think I've thought for a while both sides

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Speaker 13: I heading towards some sort of cease fire MESSI compromised

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Speaker 13: deal in the new year. I mean Russia just said

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Speaker 13: out its stall earlier this year about more of us

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Speaker 13: of capitulation from the Ukraine aside from the Ukraine's and

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Speaker 13: turned now said we're ready to accept some form of

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Speaker 13: ceasefire and peaceful territory swap only with a guarantee of

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Speaker 13: security guarantees from NATO. So I think both sides on

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Speaker 13: influenced Trump, who's kept his cards very close to his chest.

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Speaker 13: Actually the only person really has is miss General Kellogg,

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Speaker 13: whose plan actually there was very much sort of negotiation

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Speaker 13: and peace through strength. Ialue that Native membership would get

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Speaker 13: de lay, but America would actually provide some form of

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Speaker 13: security assurances to Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: If Putin gets a bit of land but they get NATO,

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Speaker 3: can he sell that as a wind domestically?

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Speaker 13: I think that's difficult, because you know, we know how

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Speaker 13: much Putin set his stall against NATO in fact force

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Speaker 13: justifications of the war in.

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Speaker 17: The first place.

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Speaker 13: I think President Leski said that Putin wants Puttin thinks

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Speaker 13: that Ukraine's part of Russia. He wants to destroy Ukraine,

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Speaker 13: so that would be very difficult for him. And I

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Speaker 13: think native membership has always been an absolute firm red

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Speaker 13: line for the Russian side. So whether it's actually NATO NATO,

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Speaker 13: or whether it's a selection of NATO countries to provide

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Speaker 13: security guarantees to Ukraine in that piece deal, would that

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Speaker 13: be acception. I think we'd have to see if I

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Speaker 13: think we've got a long way to go, and I

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Speaker 13: think things will depend on how things turn out over

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Speaker 13: the winter, and you know, by the exact front line

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Speaker 13: and the exact situation, both us fund themselves in right

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Speaker 13: January February.

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Speaker 3: Flip side, can Zelenski sell NATO and but a loss

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Speaker 3: of land.

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Speaker 13: Well, we've seen I think politics hasn't gone away from Ukraine.

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Speaker 13: I think we've seen Presidents Lensk's popularity is slide and

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Speaker 13: the number of people inside Ukraine who want some called

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Speaker 13: piece deals for prison So there's that sort of tension.

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Speaker 13: It would be very difficult, after I think almost three

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Speaker 13: years of war to say we're going to give all

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Speaker 13: his temporary acquaied territories. I think was clever, but he

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Speaker 13: said we're not going to give up our claim to

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Speaker 13: all of Ukraine. This will be a temporary end to

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Speaker 13: the hot phase. And now though it's the first time

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Speaker 13: he's talked about it, these sort of rumors and discussions

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Speaker 13: have been around Kia for a long time. So this year,

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Speaker 13: especially as the situation has gone against Ukraine on the battlefield.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and then while I've got jip Syria, does Elisad

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Speaker 3: survive this why now? And Russia and Iran too busy

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Speaker 3: to help out.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm not a great expert on Syria. I would

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Speaker 13: say from the Russian respective, I think the rapid advance

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Speaker 13: of the opposition forces has caught everyone unawares, especially the Kremni,

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Speaker 13: which's been massively distracted by the war in Ukraine. Of course,

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Speaker 13: you Rand's been distracted and of course Sad allies and

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Speaker 13: has been hammered by these railers over the last a

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Speaker 13: few months. So we've seen how much Russia treats Syria

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Speaker 13: as a client, because I said, quickly pleued Moscow to

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Speaker 13: get his orders, and we've now seen a round of

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Speaker 13: purist diplomacy. But I think the problem is that, you know,

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Speaker 13: Russia has less leaders than it might have had a

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Speaker 13: few years ago. It hasn't got the troops because they've

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Speaker 13: all been bogged down in Ukraine. The aircraft we poured out,

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Speaker 13: the air defenses they gave to a said were also

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Speaker 13: pulled back, so they've resulted to bombing. But whether that

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Speaker 13: will actually affect the situation aground that it's very confused

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Speaker 13: at present. But I would say there's a lot of

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Speaker 13: people in the Syrian opposition who want to seek revenge

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Speaker 13: on the Russians for murdering tens of thousands of Syrian

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Speaker 13: civilians over the last decade.

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Speaker 3: All right, John, appreciate it. John Foreman, former UK defense

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Speaker 3: in Moscow. Cora Manel got some good news for you,

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Speaker 3: sport Up to Ride of course, fifteen past seven, first full.

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Speaker 3: News Talks seventeen past seven. Been building for something good

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Speaker 3: in the Corimandel this summer, isn't It looks good walking

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Speaker 3: access to the cathedral cove. But I'm sure you're well aware.

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Speaker 3: Is some reopen so along with twenty five A, well,

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Speaker 3: they could well be booming the Corimandal meal insult is

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Speaker 3: Will this lend very good morning to you?

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Speaker 23: Morning, Mike, can do very well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you. How big a thing is the cove in

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Speaker 3: terms of you know, bringing people to the region.

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Speaker 23: Oh, this is huge for us, but you know it's

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Speaker 23: kind of an early Christmas present, isn't it for us?

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Speaker 23: And last year we had the early Christmas present with

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Speaker 23: the opening of twenty five A ahead of schedule. So

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Speaker 23: it's don't expect this to happen every year, Mike, But no,

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Speaker 23: it's big for us.

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Speaker 3: They said December, didn't they They said it will be

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Speaker 3: opened by December, and I think they've delivered on that.

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Speaker 23: So I wrote to the Minister on the first of

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Speaker 23: December twenty twenty three and I said, congratulations on your

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Speaker 23: new job, mate, We've got a problem here. Can you

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Speaker 23: help And he came back to me and said, look,

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Speaker 23: I'm going to give you a commitment to have it

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Speaker 23: open by the first of December twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 17: And he was as good as his word.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic And is it a permanent fix in terms of

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Speaker 3: what they've done infrastructurally speaking, this is a long term thing.

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Speaker 17: No, it's a temporary fix, Mike.

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Speaker 23: And it's part of a whole reconstruction or a development

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Speaker 23: of the walking access not just down to.

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Speaker 17: The cove, but the other bays.

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Speaker 23: We've got Gemstone Bay and Stingray Bay which is still

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Speaker 23: closed to access, but there's other there's historical sites there.

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Speaker 17: There's a lot of.

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Speaker 23: Work being done with between Doc and Nati Hay, who

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Speaker 23: are local EWI and very very collaborative and respectful work

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Speaker 23: because we've got to respect, you know, the katiarchy of

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Speaker 23: the of the whole area. And there's some good work,

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Speaker 23: but it's in progress. It's probably another couple of years work.

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Speaker 3: Fantastical. I hope you have a very good summer where

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Speaker 3: a len appreciate it. Courrimandal merely insult with us. The

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Speaker 3: uchest thing, Mike just show is how addicted to ridiculous

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Speaker 3: ideologies the Labour Party is labor Gabe Pold their base.

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Speaker 3: They don't like aucust political decision, not a mature one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure half the people in the Labor Party

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Speaker 3: would know what to I don't think anyone knows what

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Speaker 3: Orcus has pillar two because no one's got to the

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Speaker 3: bottom of it. Mike, listening to Andrew Little, I think

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Speaker 3: most of the people at the Labor conference think Orchist

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Speaker 3: is a marine at Mammal. What's entirely possible they do, Mike,

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Speaker 3: is their light? Is there a light with a label

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Speaker 3: saying auto pilot clearly visible on the bridge of the ship.

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Speaker 3: Let me come back to that. In the moment seven twenty.

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893
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 3: ask you this Monday morning, when I try and link

894
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: what happened to the Manua to what is happening in

895
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: this country generally seems to me a landlubber. Admittedly, the

896
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: two major ships won, a fairy won a Navy vessel

897
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: came to grief in exactly the same way in the

898
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: same year. Admittedly, the manor will was vastly more serious,

899
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: given it to the bottom of the ocean, and the

900
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: fairy backed up and went back to wood. Autopilot is not,

901
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: I would have thought a hard concept to understand. And

902
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: yet as I watched the Head of the Navy on Friday,

903
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: in front of a picture board with an almost comical

904
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: extendable pointer, he was explaining it was though it was

905
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: the stuff of rocket science. As they adjusted the thrusters,

906
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: they didn't respond because the autopilot was on. Hmm, not

907
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 3: really that surprising. When the thrusters, he went on didn't respond,

908
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: they adjusted the thrusters again. It's time backwards once again.

909
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: As he pointed to the photos of the thrusters, they

910
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: didn't respond. That is right, because the autopilot was still on.

911
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: The message I received from his labored, pointy explanation was

912
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 3: if the auto pilot is on, the thrusters aren't in operation.

913
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Now call me a smarty pants, but that is essentially

914
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: what autopilot is it is the pilot for the ship

915
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: in an automatic mode. No real point in it if

916
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: you can just muck around with levers and knobs, And

917
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: so she ran aground listed they all bailed, and here

918
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 3: we are. It is, of course inexcusable. I would have

919
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: thought beyond any explanation and will require I assume some

920
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: people to leave the service having been booted out the

921
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: connection to the country. Well, we are wayward. We are

922
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: real disciplined, we are disheveled. We lack vigor and determination

923
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: and a desire to be better. We have lost our way,

924
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: not all orbus, but enough of us to provide an

925
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: increasingly comprehensive picture of a country of averageness of lasadaisical complacency,

926
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: a country that produces too many people asleep at the wheel,

927
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: a country on autopilot if you like, which suits us fine, until,

928
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: of course we need to wake up and change direction.

929
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 3: I haven't even got to the bit where the ship

930
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: is worth a hundred million bucks. We undoubtedly Osama a

931
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: lot of money, given it was caused by idiots, and

932
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 3: we are presumably the laughing stock of the entire military world.

933
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: But what other excuses there? How else? Do you explain

934
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: the inexplicable asking. And then we come to the CRL

935
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 3: the press release and all the French are flying in

936
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: for the special meetings in them. The alarm bells have

937
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: been rung. The press release made public was a quote

938
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: complete mistake. This comes to us from the Auckland Council

939
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: Chief Executive Phil Wilson at once again I quote it

940
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: was a cock up. It was intended for was not

941
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: intended for the public agenda. So the French construction executives

942
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: they're winging their way into the country. I think they

943
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: arrived today for a meeting tomorrow while quote unquote the

944
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: horse had bolted. The appropriate thing to do was to

945
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: move the report to the confidential section of the Council's

946
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: Order and Risk Committee. And they're going to do that tomorrow.

947
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: They're not going to do it today because there probably

948
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: it is probably a work from home day, but they'll

949
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: get back to the office tomorrow and when they get

950
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: back to the office they'll slip it to the appropriate department.

951
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: It's a seven page report now in the confidential section

952
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: under the Local Government Official Information of Meetings Act. Quote again,

953
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 3: it was a human error situation where somebody didn't tick

954
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: the confidential box. That's correct. There is a box marked confidential,

955
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: sort of like there's a button marked auto pilot. Nobody

956
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: hits the right button, and when they do, they don't

957
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: know what to do. I think on the business of

958
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: this country being a bit wayward and laxadaisical, I think

959
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: I can probably rest my case there can't I can

960
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: I then say, speaking of wayward and laxadaisical Chris Hopkins

961
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: as next door, would that be a little bit unfair?

962
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: News is mixed.

963
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

964
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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with Feeder, retirement Communities, Life your Way

965
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: News togs Head been all the.

966
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: Lads after right twenty three minutes away from my back

967
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 3: to the Labor Party conference. Who was the tax talk?

968
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: But they are keeping out of the QT for an hour.

969
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 3: What God announced was the Dunedin hospital back asked for

970
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: the original promise, the tech tobacco tax break for the

971
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: heated product is gone, orcus is off. Labor leader Chris

972
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: Hopkins with us morning, Good morning, I was saying earlier

973
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: on this morning, best thing you did was pick the

974
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: Isaac Theater. How Good's that's amazing?

975
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 20: Venue, and actually when you realize that it was mostly rebuilt,

976
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 20: so the bit they're supposed to look old is actually

977
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 20: the newest part of the theater and then the stage

978
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 20: is out the back, which you know, sort of they're

979
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 20: the bit that survived the earthquake, so exactly amazing.

980
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: Then you and as a home handyman, you would have

981
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: appreciated the workmanship.

982
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 17: I really appreciated the workmanship. I was.

983
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 20: I was most impressed with the way they'd managed to preserve,

984
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 20: you know, the historic sort of plaster work and stuff,

985
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 20: or at least replicate and restore it. Incredible building.

986
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you read Peter Dunn's article over the weekend.

987
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 20: No, I haven't seen that one.

988
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: He says the government's going pretty well and compared with

989
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: a lot of governments around the world, they're actually performing

990
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 3: quite well. You wouldn't want to hear that.

991
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 20: Oh I don't agree with that obviously. I mean I

992
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 20: think that there, you know, overall, our economy is getting

993
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 20: worse rather than getting better, and I think that some

994
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 20: of the actions of their taking and contributing to that.

995
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 20: So if you look at the twelve thousand odds fewer

996
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 20: people who are employed in building and construction at the

997
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 20: moment compared to this time last year, I think the

998
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 20: decisions of this government to stop a whole lot of

999
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 20: building projects, like statehouse building projects and school upgrades and

1000
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 20: so on, has actually contributed to that rather than made

1001
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 20: it better.

1002
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: And at no point do you accept that the six

1003
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: years of urineptitude not yours. Specifically, you're only responsible for

1004
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: a small part of that ineptitude, but no part of

1005
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: that ineptitude is responsible for where we sit now, and

1006
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: it takes more than a year to put it right.

1007
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 20: I think there's no question that the global response to

1008
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 20: the global pandemic, including in New Zealand, contributed to a

1009
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 20: number of the things that subsequently happened, including the spike

1010
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 20: in inflation. Now, a lot of that actually in New

1011
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 20: Zealand was driven by decisions that were taken independently by

1012
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 20: the Reserve Bank, but overall, the response to COVID, including

1013
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 20: things like wage subsidies and so on, had a stimulus

1014
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 20: effect which then led to inflation. So you know, New

1015
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 20: Zealand wasn't alone in that, but decisions that we took

1016
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 20: as a government did contribute to that. I think the alternative, however,

1017
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 20: was to see a who lot of people losing their jobs,

1018
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 20: which also wasn't a great alternative either.

1019
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: And you won't concede that of all the countries in

1020
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: the world, no one's had three recessions and two years

1021
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: like we have. And that's a direct outworking of your

1022
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: government and adrenal.

1023
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 20: Well, the decisions that this government have taken have contributed

1024
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 20: to the economic situation that we're into the moment. I mean,

1025
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 20: they've been in government for a year now. I know

1026
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 20: they want to including through a whole budget cycle. Another

1027
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 20: want to continue to blame the previous government for everything

1028
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 20: that's been happening, But actually they need to start accepting

1029
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 20: responsibility for the decisions that they have taken.

1030
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 17: They are the government.

1031
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 20: They've been in government for every year.

1032
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: Even though you and government spent your full six years

1033
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: blaming the previous government, so you had two full so

1034
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: you didn't take your own advice.

1035
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 17: Well, I don't think that that's true.

1036
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 20: I mean, I think we would say that some of

1037
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 20: the long term decisions that previous governments took, such as

1038
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 20: not investing in schools and hospitals and so on, had

1039
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 20: a long legacy effect, and then includes decisions of the

1040
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 20: previous government. I think we were well and truly in

1041
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 20: the position where we were accepting responsibility for the current

1042
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 20: economic situation that the country was in when we were

1043
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 20: in government the parts that we controlled. It's interesting that

1044
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 20: the current government say, now, oh, there's a whole lot

1045
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 20: of international factors that are contributing to New Zealand's economy

1046
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 20: being in the position that it's in, when just a

1047
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 20: year ago before the election they were saying, oh, it's

1048
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 20: all labor's fault and none of this is to do

1049
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 20: with international factors. Well, I don't think things have changed

1050
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 20: that much in the last year to be Frank.

1051
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: Okay, August, have you seen something specific or is this

1052
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: an ideological decision of yours over the weekend?

1053
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 20: I well, at principal, Mike, I think you know, Aucus

1054
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 20: ultimately is a nuclear submarine packed. If you look at

1055
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 20: Pillar two of Aucus, it's not something that we think

1056
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 20: is going to be in New Zealand's best interests to

1057
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 20: be involved with.

1058
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: If you have you actually specifically looked at Pillar.

1059
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 20: Two, well, only the details that are publicly available, and

1060
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 20: you know, ultimately we've made the decision that New Zealand's

1061
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 20: best interests will be best be served through our existing

1062
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 20: international arrangements, including things like the Five Country Partnership, that

1063
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 20: we have any access to things like new technology should

1064
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 20: come through the avenue, not through the ORCUST arrangement.

1065
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 3: That's fine. I'm just working to see it was under

1066
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: your government that it started and it's been sort of

1067
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: trapped ever since, and I can't work out whether anything

1068
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: actually materially has changed or whether you just decide you

1069
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 3: don't like it.

1070
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 20: Well, I think UCAS if you look at the way

1071
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 20: it's perceived internationally, including in our region, it's perceived as

1072
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 20: part of the polarization of geopolitics in our region, and

1073
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 20: I don't think that's something that's going to be in

1074
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 20: New Zealand's best interests to be actively participating in. I

1075
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 20: think we should continue to have good, you know, strategic

1076
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 20: relationships with the US, the UK and Australia, but we've

1077
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 20: also got to recognize we've got other partnerships in the

1078
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 20: in the region and they're not happy with AUCUST. Well,

1079
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 20: China is one of them, but our specific nations partners

1080
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 20: are not particularly comfortable with ORCUS either, and I think

1081
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 20: we have to be eyes wide open to that.

1082
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Dunedin Hospital to what extent will you build it,

1083
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: no matter what the bill.

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Speaker 20: We said, that will build it to the specification that

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Speaker 20: we agreed to at the last.

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Speaker 3: Election, no matter what the past election.

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Speaker 20: Well, I mean peering in mind that the previous that

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Speaker 20: the current government before the election was saying they were

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Speaker 20: going to build a hospital is even bigger than the

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Speaker 20: one that we were courting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but forget that. This is your promise that, at

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Speaker 3: no matter what cost you were, whatever it was going

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Speaker 3: to be, specification wise, you will pay that bill.

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Speaker 20: We will we will build a hospital to the respect

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Speaker 20: that we had agreed to before the last election.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, currently sitting in over three billion. Where's that

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Speaker 3: money coming from?

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Speaker 20: Well, that's not that's just not true, Mike, because that

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Speaker 20: includes the whole lot of things that were in the specification,

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Speaker 20: including a big car parking building that was never part

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Speaker 20: of the original specific.

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Speaker 3: So you think it's still one point.

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Speaker 20: But they've loaded in things like radiology, which was actually

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Speaker 20: excluded because that's likely to be built by a private sector.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's fine, But you are saying, under your

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Speaker 3: specifications you will build it. If the bill's above one

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Speaker 3: point nine, you will pay for it. Where's the money

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Speaker 3: come from, well.

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Speaker 20: The multi year capital allowance that the government has every

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Speaker 20: year to spend and so.

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Speaker 3: That's all borrow. We'll make sure because we're back, we

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Speaker 3: don't have any money.

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Speaker 20: Well, when you're building new assets, so you borrow, unreasonable

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Speaker 20: to borrow. It's not unreasonable to borrow for assets that

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Speaker 20: are going to have a forty fifty plus year lifespan

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Speaker 20: and then pay them off over the lifespan of those assets.

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Speaker 20: That's actually quite prudent biscal management.

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Speaker 3: And you would have more money, of course coming in

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Speaker 3: because of the CGT.

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Speaker 20: Well, we'd have more money coming in among other things,

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Speaker 20: because we're not going to give a taxt bak, a

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Speaker 20: two hundred million dollar taxt baak to tobacco companies, which

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Speaker 20: this current government have agreed to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the two hundred million is nothing. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's pocket change in the cost of a hospital, and

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Speaker 3: that's fine. But the CGT, how much do you reckon

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Speaker 3: that would bring in?

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Speaker 20: Well, we haven't, we haven't agreed to a CGT. Yes,

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Speaker 20: it's one of the options on the table. We've set

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Speaker 20: out our text policy. Yes, closer to the next election.

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Speaker 3: But if you did have a CGT, how much would

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Speaker 3: that be bringing in roughly.

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Speaker 20: What depends on the decisions you make about Watson scope

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Speaker 20: and what's out of scope. So there's still a lot

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Speaker 20: of water to flow under the bridge before we've agreed

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Speaker 20: a policy on that.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon out of the weekend, you're closer to

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Speaker 3: a CGT you were before it.

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Speaker 20: I think we're certainly closer to tex reform, and you know,

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Speaker 20: I think that's going to be a good thing.

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Speaker 17: If you look at it.

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Speaker 20: You know, when we started talking about this fifty years

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Speaker 20: ago as the Labor Party, we were the only people

1144
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 20: talking about it. Now everybody's saying, actually, New Zealand's tax

1145
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 20: system needs reform. So you know, I think and I

1146
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 20: think that's a good thing. I think it's good that

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Speaker 20: people are talking about it. And you know, I think

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Speaker 20: we are closer to seeing public appetite in New Zealand

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Speaker 20: for reform of our tech system.

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Speaker 3: All right, good to talk to your Precipkins Labor Party leader.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say, what do you think of that? You've

1152
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: already started telling me what you think of it, So

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Speaker 3: perhaps some of that in a moment seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio Now

1155
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: ad By News talks that'd be.

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Speaker 3: Whereas Tom and it's away from My favorite part of

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00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 3: that was this, did you read Peter Dunn's article over

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Speaker 3: the weekend?

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Speaker 17: No, I haven't seen that one.

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00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 3: Nothing's changed all the stuff I haven't read. By the way,

1161
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Speaker 3: I did read he'd done his peace over the weekend.

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00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 3: Government doing better than other global first term governments. And

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Speaker 3: he makes, as he always does, a very good point.

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Speaker 3: The United States, Britain, Germany, ALBANIZI have all had difficulties.

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00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: The jury is still out on the influence current government

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00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: policy is having on these settings. He refers to the economy.

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: There is a general, although unquantified and unsubstantial, assumption that

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Speaker 3: things are going to get better over the next couple

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Speaker 3: of years. However, the government is so far is doing

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Speaker 3: better in keeping the voting public largely on side than

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Speaker 3: other first term governments around the world. And I think

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Speaker 3: in that he is probably accurate. But of course the

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Speaker 3: Pillar two thing was fascinating, and talking to Andrew a

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Speaker 3: little earlier on and I just I assumed that Hipkins

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00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: had read some in depth secret report around Pillar two.

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Speaker 3: Have you, though actually specifically looked at Pillar two.

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Speaker 20: Well, only the details that are publicly available, so.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't thought about that.

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Speaker 20: It's just the same old courts of these days. I

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Speaker 20: don't get time to sit down and watch the news. Sorry,

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00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 20: what was that. I didn't read much of the news

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Speaker 20: over the weekend.

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Speaker 14: It's just crowdhoad day. It's absolutely groundhold day.

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Speaker 3: It brings back Mike haunting memories. Didn't answer a single question.

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Speaker 3: Mike Labor never met a TAXI didn't love. Mike Hopkins

1186
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: takes no responsibility for anything he and his government had

1187
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: inflicted on New Zealand. Are dead man walking Chippy wall is?

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Speaker 4: He?

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00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 3: Because as Kien macinnaughty was elevated to whatever the job

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00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: officially called, you know, to run the election, he sort

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00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 3: of proved he doesn't want the leadership. He said he

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00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: doesn't want the leadership. Now, hopefull you'll believe him. I

1193
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 3: believed him all along. He said it with such conviction.

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00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 3: I have no doubt he doesn't want the leadership. Mike

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00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: Good starts so then but who else? See this is

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: the point. If not Chippy, who else Mike Good start

1197
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: to Monday morning with a good laugh, poor deluded Chippy.

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Speaker 3: And so it goes as about several hundred others. But

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Speaker 3: you know how they go, tim and ten minutes away.

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Speaker 1: From the Mike Costing Breakfast with a Vida Retirement, Communities

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Speaker 1: News togs Head been.

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Speaker 3: Away from It looks like we could get into the

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Speaker 3: satellite business. Government wants to law which one that we

1204
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: can control. Currently we rely on the Brits and the Americans.

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Speaker 3: People like that. The Auckland University physics professor Richard Eastershell,

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Speaker 3: there's Richard morning, Good morning. Is this a thing? I mean,

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00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 3: this is something countries aspire to do. It's what you

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Speaker 3: want to do, it.

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Speaker 24: Is I mean, And the government has a space strategy

1210
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 24: and number one in the space strategy is to develop

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Speaker 24: our sovereign space capabilities for the National Space Mission.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, So how would we do that? How many

1213
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 3: satellites would we need? Just the one or a whole bunch?

1214
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Speaker 24: That depends. I mean, if many cases you might want

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Speaker 24: to work up to something with a couple of trial satellites.

1216
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 24: In other cases you may actually need more than one

1217
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 24: because you know, in lowest all but given satellite is

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Speaker 24: only over New Zealand maybe twenty minutes a day, and

1219
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 24: so you might want to have multiple coverage, do we?

1220
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean as Peter Beck changing the game and Elon's

1221
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 3: changing the game, and to get these things up there,

1222
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 3: it's so much cheaper. Therefore we're in the we're in

1223
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 3: plane now.

1224
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 24: I think it's more than in the case of New Zealand.

1225
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 24: And you know, completely unexpectedly, New Zealand is a huge

1226
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 24: player in the space industry as a result of Rocket Labs,

1227
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 24: and that's not something that you would have necessarily guessed

1228
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 24: fifteen years ago. You know, there's one hundred companies trying

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00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 24: to do what rocket Lab does and it's only rocket

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00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 24: Lab that's doing it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do we lose anything by piggybacking with the British

1232
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Speaker 3: of the Americans?

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Speaker 24: You lose in particular the ability to have sovereign control

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Speaker 24: of so you know where the data is coming from

1235
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Speaker 24: and nobody else can turn it off.

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00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 17: It may not be so much a.

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Speaker 24: Government that we're piggybacking with in those cases. In the

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00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 24: cases of a lot of this observation data that's increasing

1239
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 24: that they're provided by private firms, okay, and so you

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00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 24: may hope to be able to do it cheaper than them.

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00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 24: On the other hand, if you do that, then obviously

1242
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 24: you know you're trying to compete for the one off

1243
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Speaker 24: against somebody who's doing company in Bolk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if we pulled the trigger this afternoon just to

1245
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: ruin to this, could how quickly are we up in

1246
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: business and up and running.

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Speaker 24: The key thing is to decide what to do, and

1248
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 24: so I think I think the real question is whether

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00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 24: the scope of the questions that have been asked about

1250
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 24: are ambitious enough.

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Speaker 17: There's a lot of.

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Speaker 24: Countries that want to do this, and a lot of

1253
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 24: times what they produce is is what's sometimes known in

1254
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Speaker 24: the trade as a participation trophy. You know, we put

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Speaker 24: our thing up there, we put ourselves on the backup

1256
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 24: for it, but we haven't actually done anything. Novel on you, right,

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Speaker 24: And you know, given how given New Zealand's unique position

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Speaker 24: in the space industry worldwide, I would say, you know

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Speaker 24: that you'd want to be providing the minister is something

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Speaker 24: that you know she goes and tell the other space

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Speaker 24: minus is that you know that they're excited and they say, wow,

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Speaker 24: it's amazing you guys are doing that. And I think

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Speaker 24: that would be the test out. And I don't know

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Speaker 24: that that question is being asked.

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Speaker 3: It good point, Okay, Richard appreciate your expertise is always

1266
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Speaker 3: Richard Easter or Can the university physics professor. And I

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00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: assume that Peter Beck's doing it for us and those

1268
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: sort of people that probably takes the Air Force and

1269
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: the Navy out to play. Therefore, when we go and

1270
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: launch the satellite, it doesn't I don't know, to run

1271
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 3: into something or go into.

1272
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Speaker 14: Well, you mean you actually have to take it off

1273
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 14: automatic pilot or.

1274
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Speaker 3: Something like that. Four minutes away from eight asking now

1275
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Speaker 3: news talks B. This is very exciting news for Dunedin.

1276
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: And I've been battling away on this for my full

1277
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: sixteen years and I am at the peak of it.

1278
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 3: I put the flag into the ground and say hello Lujah,

1279
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: here we are one O six point two FM and Dunedin. Now,

1280
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Speaker 3: if you're listening on AM, which you will be, because

1281
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: that's all the choice you had at ten forty four,

1282
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Speaker 3: the mighty ten forty four AM, flick over to one

1283
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Speaker 3: O six point two. You won't know yourself. Believe me,

1284
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: you will not know yourself. FM has arrived in Dunedin

1285
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: for z B one O six point two. Listen to

1286
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: Andrew Saville and FM. In a couple of moments, it

1287
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: will blow your mind.

1288
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Speaker 1: You're trusted O the News Sport Entertainment's opinion and Mike

1289
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use togsbersprung room.

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Speaker 4: It's in no one, Come.

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Speaker 25: Yours and practice. The rays reels away. In celebration, he

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Speaker 25: douddles off the Liftse's leg and the Boss are encriptures.

1294
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Speaker 26: Well, there is a lovely fifty for Jacob Bethel fifty

1295
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 26: from just thirty seven balls and that signals an emphatic

1296
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 26: win for the tourists. England win this game by a quickest.

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Speaker 4: Let go Juki Sonoda in the r B. While this

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Speaker 4: team makes me at last that.

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Speaker 10: A bound three boss has go wide into the first corner,

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Speaker 10: second start.

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Speaker 3: Of this race, and already we've got cars out and.

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Speaker 19: Potentially out of the race if they can't keep their

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Speaker 19: engines running.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: with Spears Finances supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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Speaker 3: I have old Andrew Sevill both well as fellows. Good

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Speaker 3: morning to you, Good morning morning, Andrew. Don't give me

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Speaker 3: the corporate flannel. But I happened to watch a little

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Speaker 3: bit yesterday. I was watching because I'm certainly flannel. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't give me there, don't give me

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Speaker 3: the Chris Hopkins answers. So the numbers on stream, So

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Speaker 3: I'm correct in saying to watch the cricket in this country,

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Speaker 3: this is the black Caps yesterday. To watch the cricket

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Speaker 3: in this country, you've got to stream it on TV

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Speaker 3: and z AM I correct or am I completely.

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Speaker 17: It's on our Duke channel as well on Free of You.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do you have any numbers? Is anyone watching it

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Speaker 3: or not?

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Speaker 17: No, I haven't checked the numbers. I was thinking about

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Speaker 17: that last night. Maybe I should check the numbers before

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Speaker 17: I come on with Mike, but I haven't. But I'd

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Speaker 17: say they'd be very very strong also.

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Speaker 3: So not not strong on the KPIs then, So so yeah,

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Speaker 3: I let's check that before I go on with Mike.

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Speaker 3: And here we are with Mike. I'm Mike, by the way.

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Speaker 17: No, no, it was late. It was late last night.

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Speaker 17: I was singing about you before I drifted off to sleep,

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Speaker 17: and I thought, I.

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Speaker 15: That is Chris Hopkins areas not reading things read.

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Speaker 11: Much.

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Speaker 3: It's a sky have Elton Chris Hopkins on them.

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Speaker 17: And now what I'll do for you, what I'll do

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Speaker 17: for you in the next couple of days is take

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Speaker 17: out my corporate flannel win it under the tap, wash

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Speaker 17: my face and get those numbers for you. However, you're

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Speaker 17: not going to be here next week.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm not no, I'm it's.

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Speaker 15: The secret of December. This is like starting to be

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Speaker 15: like Christmas music. When are they going to start playing

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Speaker 15: Christmas music and shops Win's.

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Speaker 17: Mike, get it take me.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the thing. That's so what I've decided to

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Speaker 3: I've decided to align myself with the Christmas music. So

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Speaker 3: when the Christmas music stops, it starts.

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Speaker 4: I stop.

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Speaker 17: And when Parliament stops sitting when.

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Speaker 3: You don't even get me started on you, you take up.

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Speaker 15: I was pulling.

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Speaker 17: I was actually pulling out the advent calendars for the kids,

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Speaker 17: you said, and I thought, December first, Mike, must be

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Speaker 17: just about you to go on holiday.

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Speaker 3: That's very good sense, that's very good. So let's enjoy

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Speaker 3: these final few moments while we can. By the way,

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Speaker 3: you're not on the show next to your sav We've

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Speaker 3: sacked you.

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Speaker 17: But that's certainly using the corporate flannel, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right? Now, what do we start with our

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Speaker 3: guy to tell me? So I was watching this cricket,

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Speaker 3: just go back to cricket. First of all, did you

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Speaker 3: notice christ which looks a bit parched? Do you notice

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Speaker 3: that from the aerial shots?

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Speaker 15: I didn't think that it looked a little bit dry.

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Speaker 3: You go to the port Hills, you're getting around the

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Speaker 3: port Hills that just needed like a sprinkle.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, And considering that's the start of summer, I don't

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Speaker 15: know what it's going to be like there is the

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Speaker 15: summer if it's a dry summer. Look, the cricket was

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Speaker 15: heavily disappointing. And I've heard a lot of people talk

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Speaker 15: about selections and all that sort of stuff or the

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Speaker 15: bottom liners, And the thing here is if they took

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Speaker 15: their catches, they would have been right in that game.

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Speaker 15: They dropped eight catches. Eight catches. This is a team

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Speaker 15: that used to be the leading fielding team in the

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Speaker 15: world cricket were there by no means that anymore. And

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Speaker 15: this wasn't a one off. They have been pretty poor

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Speaker 15: in the field now for probably the part of a year,

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Speaker 15: maybe even slightly longer. I don't know what's happened in

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Speaker 15: that regard.

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Speaker 3: Because what do you do about that. There's nothing you

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Speaker 3: can do about that, is there. That's not like you

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Speaker 3: go on Monday. You go, right, guys, let's do some practice,

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Speaker 3: some catching practice, because I mean.

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Speaker 17: They do teams practice anyway, right, These teams practice catching

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Speaker 17: all the time. Okay, outfield slip catching in close the

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Speaker 17: problem and guy would know about this. Guy would know

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Speaker 17: about this because he's got two left hands anyway. But

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Speaker 17: in a cricket team, when someone drops one, yes, everyone

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Speaker 17: else thinks, oh god, I hope the ball doesn't come back.

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 3: Psychological?

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Speaker 17: It's contagious. Yeah, that happens a lot.

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Speaker 15: It's massively psychological, and says right they. I mean, I

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Speaker 15: don't know how many Black Cats trainings I've been to,

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Speaker 15: but every single training they would spend at least half

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Speaker 15: an hour, maybe forty five minutes on their catching.

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Speaker 3: And this is a funny because I would have I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know they do that. But what I'm what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying is you can't improve. You can hit a ball

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Speaker 3: up in the air and I get under it as

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Speaker 3: many times as you like, am either good at catching

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Speaker 3: or I'm not. Yeah, I mean it's not going to change.

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Speaker 3: It's not a skill you can improve.

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Speaker 15: Is it? Oh?

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Speaker 9: No, it is it is.

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Speaker 3: How can you improve you? How can you improve a

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Speaker 3: skill of catching the kitchen?

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Speaker 4: You can?

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Speaker 17: You can improve your reactions and the slips and that

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Speaker 17: using a slip cradle or whatever they use these days,

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Speaker 17: you can improve.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Isn't that.

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Speaker 17: The all Black still practice passing and catching a rug can.

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Speaker 3: Because there's nothing else to do. I mean, but what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying is if I was first slip, I'd be

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Speaker 3: a coiled spring at all moments, ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 15: And I think that's I mean, I think that's possibly

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Speaker 15: part of the test of test cricket, is that five

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Speaker 15: days you've got to be concentrating all the time. And

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Speaker 15: I don't know, maybe their concentration was slightly off.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm saying that's a mental thing.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, these catches weren't overly difficult. Yes, some of them

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Speaker 15: were hit hard, but when you're a professional that's been

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Speaker 15: playing for X amount of years and you're on the

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Speaker 15: international stage, they weren't tough. And that's the difficult thing

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Speaker 15: for me to process is that.

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Speaker 17: So you think, Mike that once you get good at catching, and.

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Speaker 3: You either can or you can't. It's like handy coordination.

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Speaker 3: There's no amount of practice on hand eye commination.

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Speaker 17: Keep practicing, of course, you.

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Speaker 3: Keep practicing, but it's not to materially improve. It's not

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Speaker 3: to go, look, hey, I know you're really useless at catching,

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Speaker 3: but let's do one hundred and see if we can

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Speaker 3: make you a black cap. Doesn't work that way. You're

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Speaker 3: either good at it or you're not.

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Speaker 15: But if you if you stopped practicing for say, let's

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Speaker 15: say they didn't do any field in practice, as you're

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Speaker 15: semi suggesting, that'd be terrible.

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Speaker 11: In the field.

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Speaker 3: Well, they were terrible in the field, so they probably

1443
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Speaker 3: need to practice more.

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Speaker 15: But that'd be even worse. I mean, it's just like,

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Speaker 15: I don't know, it's like doing anything. If you don't

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Speaker 15: do it for a while, you feel a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I've never found that guy. That's my problem. I just

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Speaker 3: I just I think you you reach a point of perfection,

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Speaker 3: and I just wonder if you were down at third man,

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01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: whether he's looking at the porthills and thought, jeez, they're

1451
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 3: a bit parched, And the next thing you know, there's

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Speaker 3: a ballway something like that. Brief Bragg more at my

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Speaker 3: and Andrew Sevil Guy have Helt fourteen past The.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

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Speaker 3: Right, so here it is morning, Mike. I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Isn't you need to catch a ball like riding a

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Speaker 3: bike once you've mastered it. It's what you do and

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Speaker 3: that is true. That's what I'm saying. So your reaction

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Speaker 3: time is what you're looking to home. But the reaction

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01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: time is something that's on the day. There's what you

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Speaker 3: do on Tuesday and Wednesday. Reaction time wise is not

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Speaker 3: applicable on a Friday or Saturday.

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Speaker 17: But you can improve your reaction time by practicing.

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Speaker 3: Can you I read the RECOI specialist?

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Speaker 17: Look, there are specialist fielders in the slips. There are

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Speaker 17: specialist fielders out in the deep who have better arms

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Speaker 17: and are faster. Yes, there are specialist positions, but you

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Speaker 17: need to practice.

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Speaker 15: Okay, on the reactions thing. Imagine let's take Lee and

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Speaker 15: Lawson for example, if if they didn't practice their reactions,

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Speaker 15: they'd be crashing all the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that would be more c I can specifically,

1478
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: so you sit in the simulator and you aim for

1479
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: the apex of the corner and when you get on

1480
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 3: and off the break and stuff like that, timing. I

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Speaker 3: get that.

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Speaker 17: But then all right, well you don't do you think

1483
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 17: Roger Feeder are one all his grand slams? And then

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Speaker 17: you know, I don't want to I'm not going to practice.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, But that's different. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying that catching is such a natural basic skill,

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01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 3: whereas putting a bit of spin on a ball and

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: putting it down the center line exactly when you want

1489
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Speaker 3: to do it, at the speed you want to do it.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole different level of and of course you

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Speaker 3: need to practice that. It's like going back, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to practice serving. You know, you don't practice serving. What

1493
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 3: you're doing is you're practicing a specific part of the serving.

1494
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Speaker 3: You're at the next level. Whereas catching is just catching

1495
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: a ball's up in the air and it falls into

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Speaker 3: your hands or not.

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Speaker 15: I agree to disagree.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hey what about Taco fall.

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Speaker 17: Well, I'm not sure if it's been the.

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Speaker 15: Best move so far. I watched the game on Friday

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Speaker 15: night or Thursday night. Was he was the first game

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Speaker 15: of their double hitter. Well, he's he's he's massive, I'll put.

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Speaker 17: It that way. He's empowering presence. Yeah, he too?

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Speaker 3: Is he so massive? He's not effective a little bit?

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Speaker 15: And I don't think he's quite got the movements around

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 15: the court that they really need, and they haven't figured

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Speaker 15: out how to play with them and use them to

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Speaker 15: their advantage the most. This is from me just watching

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Speaker 15: one of their games this.

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Speaker 3: Weekend, because they lost both of them.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and it wasn't I mean Thursday or Friday night,

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Speaker 15: whatever game it was. That first one against Llawarra was dreadful.

1513
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 15: They were dreadful and and the interesting thing about this

1514
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 15: is that if you read in between the lines from

1515
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 15: hearing from their coach, it doesn't sound like he had

1516
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 15: he wanted exactly.

1517
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: What was that about? Why as a coach, even if

1518
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 3: you even if you know you had some issues behind

1519
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: the scenes, why would you go on national television and

1520
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 3: sort of say, yeah, we got this guy I didn't

1521
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 3: really want him. I don't know what I'm going to

1522
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 3: do with them, but we'll give it a crack. I mean,

1523
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: what the hell's the point of that?

1524
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 17: He just hacked off.

1525
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 3: It was not professional, Andrew, That's what I'm saying.

1526
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 17: Look, I think what he wasn't using the corporate flannel, clearly.

1527
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 21: I think.

1528
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 17: It just might take time before to get into those

1529
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 17: into the into the into the regime and the tactics.

1530
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 17: Look under the under the basket. He can block, he

1531
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 17: can rebound because he's so much taller than everyone else,

1532
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 17: so it will probably work in the end. It'll be

1533
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 17: intriguing to see how it develops in the coming weeks,

1534
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 17: but they can't afford to lose too many more game agreement.

1535
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 3: Tell you what. The highlight of the weekend for me

1536
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 3: was at Auckland FC. They got a half decent crowd

1537
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 3: in the rain and it was a shocking day. And

1538
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: they're unbeaten. They're so far ahead on the rest of

1539
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: the table that's embarrassing. They haven't had a single goal

1540
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: scored against them. They are the Hellburg winners. I've made

1541
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: up my mind. I know we did this, and I've

1542
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 3: asked other people, but if they go in with.

1543
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 17: There's a different Halburg winner. You can't hand them out,

1544
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 17: will he?

1545
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 26: Nelly?

1546
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 17: Look, look, look fantastic womans. And what they're doing, Mike

1547
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 17: is they're playing entertaining football. They're actually quite a joy

1548
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 17: to what.

1549
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: I agree.

1550
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 17: And then you think next week, next week they were

1551
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 17: already they solved this return local derby game out.

1552
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 4: We looked up for tickets.

1553
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: You know what they're going for four hundred and hundred.

1554
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I'm not I've never been a

1555
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 15: massive football fan, but that is the thing I'm looking

1556
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 15: forward to the most this weekend is the Phoenix again.

1557
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: If you build it, they will come. And that's the point,

1558
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: isn't it. You know, you come on. So here we

1559
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: are and we're good, and we score and we draw

1560
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: a crowd and we're gonna win the championship and we're

1561
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: gonna win the hell big award.

1562
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 17: Men will start a team from scratch twelve months ago.

1563
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: Mike is that unheard of.

1564
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 17: Would often often protein like the Warriors had three or

1565
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 17: four years and to to surge into life. But this

1566
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 17: this club has done it very very quickly.

1567
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: World. Pardon the Warriors. What year did they surge into Life.

1568
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 17: Ninety ninety five. But they got the license about to

1569
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 17: or three years before that, didn't they.

1570
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm still waiting for them surgeon to life.

1571
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 11: I mean.

1572
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: Finals, all right.

1573
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 9: But.

1574
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 15: What's what's on the holiday plans?

1575
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, to be honest, it's quite as

1576
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: a suggestion.

1577
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 17: Here's a suggestion.

1578
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 4: He's got so long.

1579
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 19: It's got so long.

1580
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 15: He doesn't actually know what.

1581
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm navigating the world. You're got around the world.

1582
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 17: You hit the wine cellar in the first week, so

1583
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 17: that's a right. Hop's actually I don't suce you reread

1584
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 17: reread Guy's email about our horse racing.

1585
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: Well, aren't we waiting for the sale the page.

1586
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 17: You go Andrew the eighteen page home that he sent

1587
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 17: out to us about what sort of race horse for

1588
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 17: going to get, whether it's got four legs to two

1589
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 17: eyes or whatever. And I heard back from Mike, but

1590
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 17: I didn't hear back from you, Andrew.

1591
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: He doesn't know how to use email. Hey, listen, we've

1592
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: got to wrap it up.

1593
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 15: Guys.

1594
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 3: Listen, very merry Christmas to both of you. And I

1595
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 3: think at least one of youse back next year when

1596
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 3: we come back. So so go well, Happy holidays, Merry

1597
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 3: Christmas and all that. Andrew sevil Guy have ld A

1598
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Speaker 3: twenty three the my.

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Speaker 3: Super fifteen must be scratching their heads to be fair.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of super rugby teams. There's only two

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Speaker 3: football teams. There's a bit of that, but you can't

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Speaker 3: take anything away from what Auckland is doing. It's absolutely

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Speaker 3: Be I, Mike have just driven over three mile hill

1630
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Speaker 3: and you didn't drop out once one oh six point two.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Bridget, Now we're in business. You have

1632
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Speaker 3: the three mile hill problem. If I've had one later,

1633
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Speaker 3: I've had one thousand about the three mile hill problem.

1634
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Speaker 3: This is Dunedin AM to FM while they still got

1635
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Speaker 3: the AM if you want it, but why would you

1636
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Speaker 3: want it? One six point two FM in Dnedian and

1637
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Speaker 3: Steve Right, Well, it's across the Tasman morning mate. Good

1641
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Speaker 3: that I happen to have a little bit of the

1642
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 3: Australian Golf Open on over the weekend and they were

1643
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 3: playing two courses and I looked them up on a

1644
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 3: map and they appear to be ten minutes apart, and

1645
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 3: there was the men in the women's tournament. One was

1646
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: at Kingston Heath and the other one was at the

1647
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 3: Victorian Golf Club. Are they good golf clubs?

1648
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 17: Victoria Golf Club, Yes.

1649
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 11: I went there on Friday and walked around ten holes

1650
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 11: watching some of the best female golfers in the world.

1651
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 11: They are on the sand belt. They are about ten

1652
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 11: minutes apart right Kingston Heath. One of the members there

1653
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 11: is one of my favorite people, Ex Premier Daniel Anne. Jeez, yeah,

1654
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 11: I got him from down here Portsy but he's a

1655
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 11: member there.

1656
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 17: Beautiful golf course. Is pitty About the weather.

1657
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 3: I was going to say, it looked blowy and it

1658
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 3: looked like it could pour with rain at any moment.

1659
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 11: Did it did both things? Roaring wind and a hell

1660
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 11: of a lot of rain.

1661
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, and of course Sydney got smacked over the

1662
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: weekend with flooding and everything.

1663
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, the weather in this country must be global warming oppresent.

1664
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 11: Has been very unpredictable in the last couple of weeks.

1665
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 3: So are you forecasting a long, hot, dry summer or

1666
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: we just don't have a clue.

1667
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 17: What are you after? Clickbait?

1668
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: Not very good. The pub who is it?

1669
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 11: Well, it's a group of pubs. It's called the Australian

1670
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 11: Venue Company. This story broke Lake yesterday. I couldn't believe

1671
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 11: it when I read it. I've done some checking on

1672
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 11: who these people are. But they run two hundred venues

1673
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 11: across Australia, pubs, places where people go and drink. They've

1674
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 11: got sixty pubs in Victoria, ninety in Queensland, they've got

1675
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 11: twenty in South Australian, ten Incydney, so massive, two hundred venues.

1676
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 11: They've decided to tell all of their hotels that on

1677
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 11: the twenty sixth of January next year, you are not

1678
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 11: allowed to celebrate Australia Day because what reason. Well, quote

1679
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 11: from their media release, Australia Day on the twenty sixth

1680
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 11: of January causes sadness and hurt in the community, and

1681
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 11: so you are just to treat it as a normal day,

1682
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 11: even though it's a national public holiday and it is

1683
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 11: Australia Day. And that's what most Australians in pile after

1684
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 11: pile after poll have said that they want that day

1685
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 11: to stay the same. The wopeness in companies like this

1686
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 11: is extraordinary. When I did a bit of digging, which

1687
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 11: I hope the rest of the media do. The CEO

1688
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 11: spoke for Waterson, but this group also it's a private

1689
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 11: equity basically started up in Southeast Asia. They also own

1690
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 11: four and twenty pies, so you couldn't get more Australian

1691
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 11: than a four and twenty pie. And yet they say

1692
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 11: don't celebrate Australia.

1693
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 3: Unreal the reshuffle coming. I think it's early jan isn't it.

1694
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 3: This is just shortened or were We don't know how

1695
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: big it's going to be.

1696
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 17: To be bigger than that, I think, I mean Bill Shorten.

1697
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 11: It was from the right of the Labor Party obviously,

1698
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 11: and so the right faction would expect that they would

1699
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 11: have one of their members fill that vacancy. It seems

1700
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,959
Speaker 11: like though what Antony Albanize will do will be installed

1701
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 11: probably an ALP member from either Queensland or Western Australia

1702
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 11: where he needs to win seats at the election. So

1703
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 11: that's one of the reasons why he would do that.

1704
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,520
Speaker 11: That means that the local branches are then out campaigning

1705
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 11: vigorously for him to be re elected. Bill Shorten decided

1706
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 11: to step down. He's gone into the job as chancellor

1707
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 11: vice chancellor at Camber University on a million dollars a year,

1708
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 11: So why wouldn't you exit a government that's looking shaky

1709
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 11: at the moment the election campaigns really started already. Anthony

1710
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 11: Albanize will be out on the campaign trail today. No

1711
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 11: date yet, I can't tell you when it's going to be.

1712
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 11: You've got every date from March to April to May.

1713
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 11: I think if the poles stay the same and there's

1714
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 11: no interest rate cut, you'll hang on as long as

1715
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 11: you possibly can.

1716
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: Mind, do you want to take into account the whether

1717
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 3: you want Tom Mountain a nice Sunday Saturday, don't you probably?

1718
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 11: Which would? You could probably say that April would deliver

1719
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 11: that for you. April twelve is one date of quite consistently.

1720
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 3: Boomingham we haven't talked since Boomingham left. On the other side,

1721
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 3: is he is he a major or no?

1722
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 11: Considered a wet Probably no loss to the coalition to

1723
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 11: be honest. And so they'll have a new senator from

1724
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 11: South Australia. They wouldn't even have a clue that they're

1725
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 11: going to replace them it at this stage.

1726
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Speaker 3: Right, So I'm watching the video and the snakes, so

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Speaker 3: hand on heart, you're on and I assume it was

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Speaker 3: the freeways that it looked like the Tullamarine.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, monaster.

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Speaker 3: So the snake's coming out of your dashboard and hand

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Speaker 3: on heart and it's up your leg. Would you pull

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Speaker 3: over the way this person seemed to pull over in

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Speaker 3: an ordered manner.

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Speaker 17: No, it's stop.

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Speaker 11: That can't get out in the middle of the layer.

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Speaker 11: I don't care what man I mean, and I would

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Speaker 11: just flee. I mean, I have my partner in Australia

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Speaker 11: is a keywig and she has an absolute fear of snakes.

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Speaker 11: This woman was from Kolak in Western Victoria. It would

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Speaker 11: appear that she left the door of her car open

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Speaker 11: at some stage and the snake got in there and

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Speaker 11: it was up behind the dashboard and she was driving

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Speaker 11: along an eighty kilometers an hour, felt something on her leg,

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Speaker 11: looked down and a tiger snake, which is the fifth

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Speaker 11: most deadly snake in the world, I should point out,

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Speaker 11: was slithering up her legs. She somehow managed to shake

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Speaker 11: it off, pulled over safely on the side of the road,

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Speaker 11: got out, screaming hysterically as anyone would, was taken to

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Speaker 11: hospital in an ambulance. And some bloke turned up, who's

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Speaker 11: a snake catcher? He said, these things give off some

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Speaker 11: sort of musky scent and he has to smell la.

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Speaker 11: And it worked out that it was in the boot

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Speaker 11: of the car and grabbed it and stuck it in

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Speaker 11: a bag. That is everybody's nightmare.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, i'mreal Lydia Thorpe. I'm reading what

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Speaker 3: she did at Tullamarine Airport, So she did you know,

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01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: the business last week? Then she gets to Tellomarine Airport

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Speaker 3: and she's yelling at people, the security guards, and so

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Speaker 3: is she having a breakdown of some sort.

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Speaker 11: I wish I could say yes to that, but probably not.

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Speaker 11: I mean, she just demands it love's attention. Thinks that

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Speaker 11: screaming out free Palestine and everybody is a smart thing.

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Speaker 9: To do.

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Speaker 11: She's a senator now out of the Greens and Independent,

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Speaker 11: and she's there till twenty twenty eight. I mean, this

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Speaker 11: is the problem with our system if you get reelected

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Speaker 11: at the right time. She's on two hundred and fifty

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01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 11: thousand dollars a year to run around sticking her middle

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Speaker 11: finger up at people, ripping up bits of paper and

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Speaker 11: screaming at everyone.

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Speaker 3: So on, pretty bad, I reckon, all right, might see Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it very much. Yeah. So she's at Tellomarene Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: She goes through the crowds in the terminal. She passes

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Speaker 3: a member of the Australian Federal Police and snaps Adam.

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Speaker 3: She's still wearing her Blackfellow's Palestinians tank top, turns to

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Speaker 3: the officer demands to know if he's ready to use

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Speaker 3: his weapon a machine gun at the airport. For f's sake,

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Speaker 3: She shouts the AFP's counter terrorist first response to Team

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Speaker 3: Carey short barreled rifles at the nine major airports around Australia,

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Speaker 3: not machine gun, So she's wrong. Before the flight, she

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Speaker 3: had been spotted and enjoying a drink with three companions

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Speaker 3: in the quantas Chairman's Lounge, which of course you get

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Speaker 3: invited to if you're an MP, after spending hours on

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Speaker 3: the lawn outside Parliament at a rally denouncing what she

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01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 3: called Colonial HQ. So straight from Colonial HQ to the

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Speaker 3: Chairman's Lounge for a couple of week and then to

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Speaker 3: make a complete full of herself at the airport a

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Speaker 3: forty five the.

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Speaker 3: I should mention that the other story that's floating around it,

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Speaker 3: but even the Sydney Morning Herald, who are a well

1793
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: known left leaning sort of organization, have had a crack.

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01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 3: I happened to watch it the other day. Is guy

1795
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 3: called Kim Williams who's the new chair of the ABC

1796
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Speaker 3: Public Broadcaster, and one of the first things he did

1797
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Speaker 3: when he got there was where he's sacking a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of people at the moment, but all because they're

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Speaker 3: in dreadful shape. Like the Public Broadcaster here, they have

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01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 3: losing audience all that sort of stuff, so they're doing

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Speaker 3: something about it. And one of the first things he

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01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 3: did with the website was he said, this far too

1803
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: much fluff on this website, to far too much clickbait.

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Speaker 3: Do some proper journalism get onto it? Anyway, as a

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Speaker 3: result of that, I was looking at some numbers the

1806
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Speaker 3: other day. Their website's gone back to number one on Australia,

1807
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: so he's onto that. But anyway, gave the speech at

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Speaker 3: the Press Club the other day about public broadcasting and

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Speaker 3: all that sort of thing. So I was watching with

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Speaker 3: the deal of interest. Anyway, I woman called Jane Norman,

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Speaker 3: who's one of his reporters, asked how the National Broadcaster

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Speaker 3: could capture and similar to that of Rogan, the inference being,

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Speaker 3: of course, the ABC is not particularly popular anymore, but

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Speaker 3: Rogan is. And he said the following, I'm not a

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Speaker 3: consumer or enthusiast about mister Rogan and his work. People

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Speaker 3: like mister Rogan pray on people's vulnerabilities. They pray on fear,

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Speaker 3: they pray on ans, they prey on all the elements

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Speaker 3: that contribute to uncertainty in society, and they entrepreneur fantasy

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Speaker 3: outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being a normal part of

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Speaker 3: social narrative. He found Rogan's reach in the US deeply repulsive.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't like the popularity at all, deeply repulsive. I am

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01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: also absolutely in dismay that this can be a source

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Speaker 3: of public entertainment when it's really treating the public as

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Speaker 3: plunder for purposes that are really quite malevolent preach. Would

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Speaker 3: it surprise you to know he's a former I can't

1826
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Speaker 3: remember whether it's clarinet or flute.

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Speaker 14: But when players are other smartest layers in the orchestra.

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Speaker 3: But of course the problem is he doesn't have an

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01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 3: audience and Rogan does. That is depressing, and he hates Rogan,

1830
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 3: but he still doesn't have an audience.

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Speaker 17: So what do you do?

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Speaker 3: Turn away from nine.

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Speaker 4: On my cost your breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news dogs.

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Speaker 3: estate brand, back by a proven track record of finding

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Speaker 3: buyers others can't and putting people at the heart of

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three, and they'll keep doing things all together

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Speaker 3: better in every sector for every Kiwi for the next

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Speaker 4: The difference pasking.

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Speaker 3: Speaking in your morning Heralder is a piece under the

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Speaker 3: headline that caught my attention. What other countries do to

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Speaker 3: control chi'll on social media access? Because, of course, last

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Speaker 3: week the Australian government passed what will turn out to

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01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 3: be a foolish bit of law that will achieve basically nothing,

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Speaker 3: And so what do they do around the rest of

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Speaker 3: the rest of the Britain are no current plans norway

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Speaker 3: they propose raising the age at which children can consent

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Speaker 3: to the terms legally required to use social media to

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Speaker 3: fifteen years from thirteen. They're working on legislation to set

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Speaker 3: an absolute legal minimum, but that's gone nowhere. EU they

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Speaker 3: need parental consent. France past the law requiring platforms to

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Speaker 3: obtain parental consent. Do you think that's worked. No, technical

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Speaker 3: challenges mean it's not yet been enforced. So it's the

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Speaker 3: same thing. So what Australia thinks it's doing, I've got

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Speaker 3: no idea. Germany, parental, Belgium, Netherlands. Itally all around the

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Speaker 3: world is where you look if they do anything at all, basically,

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Speaker 3: and it's like the business of buying booths online. Are

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Speaker 3: you eighteen? Click? Yes, I am. Whether the person is

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Speaker 3: or not makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. Other story that

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Speaker 3: got up my nose this morning, this reporting of women

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Speaker 3: working for free for the rest of the year. It's

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Speaker 3: a scam as well. It's another one of the little

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01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 3: you know, send out a press release and get yourself

1879
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Speaker 3: some news. It is not women being paid less. Women

1880
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: aren't paid less. We don't sit in this country and go, oh,

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Speaker 3: you're a woman, I'll pay you less. It is the

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Speaker 3: job that is paid and women for whatever reason. And

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01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 3: that's an interesting conversation in and of itself. But it

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Speaker 3: is the job that women tend to choose to navigate

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Speaker 3: towards that is paid less. You pay for the job,

1886
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: you don't pay on gender. And until you work out

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Speaker 3: the difference between the two, we will get nowhere fast.

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Speaker 3: Five away from nine trending.

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Speaker 4: Now Queen Chemist ware House the home of big brand.

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Speaker 3: Fate of number one or two. They thought it might

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Speaker 3: be ahead. It is Thanksgivin weekend big opening. Of course,

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Speaker 3: a lot of movies opened in the last week. Most

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Speaker 3: popular song from the film according to the list, sung

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 3: by Dwayne Johnson and Rachel House.

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Speaker 4: They're faing ooh fun No.

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Speaker 3: Six hundred and fifty one million. These are all New

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Speaker 3: Zealand dollars. Oh our specific place, look at their current

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Speaker 3: exchange R six hundred and fifty one million New Zealand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Highest global opening weekend for an animated film ever three

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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy three million domestic box office opening, domestic

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Speaker 3: being the Americas for the Thanksgiving weekend three hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy three million big opening, Biggest Thanksgiving opening in the

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Speaker 3: US ever for an animated movie. Domestically overall, it was

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Speaker 3: the highest grossing Thanksgiving weekend ever seven hundred and twelve

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Speaker 3: million collected from Moana two, Gladiator two, and Wicked. Glicked

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Speaker 3: or glicked. I think that's what they came to, wasn't it.

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Speaker 14: So they didn't like my wiki aid to suggest they

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Speaker 14: did not.

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Speaker 19: They did not.

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Speaker 3: Much better than Dwayne Johnson's Black Adam film, which was

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Speaker 3: supposed to be a game changer. What there was one thirteen,

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Speaker 3: one thirteen is pretty good. Don't don't, don't don't just

1913
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Speaker 3: one thirteen, one thirteen millionaires not two.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but it didn't change the hierarchy of the DC

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Speaker 14: universe wherever, as he promised it was going.

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Speaker 4: To thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yes anyway. So that's good thing is people are back

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Speaker 3: at the movies, and if you make it, they're prepared

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Speaker 3: to spend the.

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Speaker 4: Duck any way.

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Speaker 3: Back tomorrow morning from six as always Happy Days.

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