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Speaker 1: Another departure at the Rugby Union, the longtime All Blake's

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Speaker 1: head of Performance, Nick Gill, after twenty years, is after

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Speaker 1: the NFL and the Baltimore Ravens, where he will become

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Speaker 1: vice president VP of Health and Performance. Next with us, Nick, morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning. Thanks for having me, not at.

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Speaker 1: All as an NFL tragic myself. This has got to

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Speaker 1: be a dream job.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, still still pinching myself as we speak. It's

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Speaker 2: it's hell a hell of an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Are you an NFL fan per se?

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Speaker 2: I have sort of been for the last couple of years.

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Speaker 2: I've loved it for for for a little while. I

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Speaker 2: sort of tried to get into a long time ago,

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Speaker 2: but then didn't probably understand the game enough. But now, no,

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Speaker 2: I've been a bit of an NFL fanatic the last

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Speaker 2: two years.

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Speaker 1: Have you visited the because if you look at programs

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Speaker 1: like hard knocks and stuff, the facilities and the medical

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Speaker 1: and the health and the money around those teams and

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Speaker 1: players is next level, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, you know, I've the past couple of years,

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Speaker 2: I've been to the Bears forty nine ers and then

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Speaker 2: from my interviewer that the Ravens. So the facilities are

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Speaker 2: just ridiculous. Yeah, just absolutely mind blown huge squads of players,

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Speaker 2: so they have to be big, but it's the fact

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Speaker 2: that it's just what they have. They have everything you

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Speaker 2: need and not one of them, they have ten of them,

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Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, that's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: And when you talk about huge squads, so fifty three

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Speaker 1: play at any given moment, then you've got the practice squad,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got all the training in the off

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Speaker 1: season stuff. So you're dealing with many, many different sorts

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Speaker 1: of people. And I what's your assessment of the greats?

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Speaker 1: I look at it like a Dereck Henry or a

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and what physically they can do. Are they

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Speaker 1: the greatest athletes in the world? Do you think or

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Speaker 1: would the All Blacks match them? In certain areas?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Like, I think I think it's just different. We've

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Speaker 2: got some, like the All Blacks have got some freakishly

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Speaker 2: talented athletes, and I think it's just what I see

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Speaker 2: in the likes of a lamarje Exon for example, is

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Speaker 2: you know, it's executing, you know, the most finest skill

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Speaker 2: and high high pressure at high speed, and we have

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Speaker 2: athletes that do that in rugby. It's just it's just different.

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Speaker 2: So physically, you know that there's some talent physically in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, just like in rugby, from a skill of

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Speaker 2: decision making under pressure and skill execution under pressure. It's

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Speaker 2: just different. But but I you know, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not downplaying how special some of these athletes are in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But we've got them in ragby two.

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Speaker 1: What have you when you say health and performance, health

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Speaker 1: holistically or what they eat or everything.

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Speaker 2: Everything injury, regabilitation, nutrition, sports, science, well being, just everything.

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Speaker 2: You know, you want to perform at the highest level

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Speaker 2: every single week, kend you know, and and and and

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Speaker 2: play your best game every week. You know, health and

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Speaker 2: performance is about that. It's about mind, body and soul.

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Speaker 2: You know, like we need we need neggles to be sorted,

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Speaker 2: we need to not get hurt. We need to be

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Speaker 2: physically dominant to be able to dominate the opposition. So

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Speaker 2: we need a strong and powerful and to do that,

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Speaker 2: you've got to eat well. You got to eat well,

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Speaker 2: you got to sleep well. You know, you need message,

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Speaker 2: you need all these things. You know, you need to

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Speaker 2: be able to switch on and switch off. So that's

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Speaker 2: that's the program. The program that I'll be leading is

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Speaker 2: all encompassing, so it's pretty much everything away from the

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Speaker 2: football field.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore's really cold in winter.

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Speaker 2: Ray Yeah, yeah, I was there a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: It was a pretty cold. There was no everywhere, There

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Speaker 2: was no everywhere, And this is this little key we

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Speaker 2: rocked up in the shorts, didn't he so forgot?

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Speaker 1: Well listen, go well, I think it's just the greatest

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Speaker 1: thing I've heard in a decent period of time. I

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Speaker 1: assume you'll be pinching yourself and you just live the

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Speaker 1: dream and you can't ask more than that one percent.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a hell of an invent So

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Speaker 2: I have never done an HOI mate, So I'm treading

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Speaker 2: it like that.

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Speaker 1: Good on you go, well, appreciate it very much, Doctor

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Speaker 1: Nick Gill All blacks headed performance heading off to the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Imagine dealing with Lamar Jackson, if you know,

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Speaker 1: if this means anything, if you're just dealing with Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson on a daily basis, would you call him sir

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Speaker 1: or Lamar or yo? Jacko? What do you how about that?

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Speaker 1: Arm buddy?

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