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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: A'd be congratulations Jack, Are you getting much sleep? Ha

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Speaker 2: ha ha. Well we all know the answer to that. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's fair to say that our sun seems more focused

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Speaker 2: on feeding and sleeping at the moment, and that's absolutely

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Speaker 2: fine by me. But yeah, we're getting.

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Speaker 3: Used to that.

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Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of routine at the moment

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Speaker 2: on that front. But I'm sure it's I'm sure it's

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Speaker 2: going to come. I am pleased that he's managed to

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Speaker 2: time has run for the champions Trophy, so that at

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Speaker 2: the very least, if we are sitting there waiting for

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Speaker 2: him to finally nod off, I can just grab my

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Speaker 2: iPad and just check in on the latest game. Ninety

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Speaker 2: to some of your messages very shortly. Kevin mill is

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Speaker 2: with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Morning, sir, well in and congratulations Jack to you and Marba.

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Speaker 3: Your life's changed forever, of course, and and your peace

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Speaker 3: was just superb.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgivin. Yeah, I just feel like all the cliches are

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Speaker 2: all the cliches ring true, you know, like all of

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Speaker 2: the kind of the whole crazy blend of emotions and

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Speaker 2: you know, and the sweeping feelings of love and all

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Speaker 2: of that stuff is so true. But I can also

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Speaker 2: see why everyone has a birth story everyone, you know,

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Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, here's what happened to me, Here's what

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Speaker 2: happened to me. Here's what happened to me. It feels

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Speaker 2: like this really what's strange about it. It feels like a crazy,

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Speaker 2: kind of wild and definitely traumatic experience. But you have

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Speaker 2: these really intense positive emotions and these really intense kind

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Speaker 2: of you know, fearful emotions and all these other things.

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Speaker 2: You have it, but but no one else in your

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Speaker 2: life is having it. So you and your your partner

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Speaker 2: are having it. No one else in your life is

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Speaker 2: having having it. And then you have it, and then

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Speaker 2: three hours later, with a bit of luck, things are

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Speaker 2: all good and you know, and the world's gone to

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Speaker 2: normal and you're moving on.

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Speaker 3: It's oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now what do I

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Speaker 3: take it that your lovely baby boy doesn't have those

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Speaker 3: piercing blue eyes, Well, they've.

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Speaker 2: Sort of got his We think they've caught it kind

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Speaker 2: of gray blue at the moment, and so we and

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Speaker 2: and Google says that it's going to take a few

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Speaker 2: months for that to be finalized. So yeah, we're waiting

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Speaker 2: to see if he's got there. He has inherited my

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Speaker 2: pink skin, which is I mean, my wife's good because

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Speaker 2: she's Middle Eastern, you know, she's got the lovely kind

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Speaker 2: of olive's skin. And we did look at it and

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Speaker 2: look at him the other day and we thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: maybe he is looking a bit olive. Them We're saying

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Speaker 2: to each other, that's good. He's got a bit of

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Speaker 2: the olive undertones to his skin. And then the nurse

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Speaker 2: walked in and she said, oh, your baby's looking a

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Speaker 2: bit jaund us. I probably need to take him outside,

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Speaker 2: give him it a son. Okay, but yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Kevin, you want to talk about baby names

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Speaker 2: this morning?

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought, saying that we waited for the official

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Speaker 3: announcement of your gorgeous baby boy's name. I talk about

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Speaker 3: baby naming firstly, McKee advice not to you, but to

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Speaker 3: the listeners really is, if you're not one of the parents,

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Speaker 3: stay out of it. But I admit that I've been

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Speaker 3: unable to resist trying to help my son and his

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Speaker 3: partner with names for their boys. For the record, they've

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Speaker 3: not gone with any suggestion I made for either of

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Speaker 3: their two boys, and good on them. The second point

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Speaker 3: I'd say i'd reckon is that if you don't like

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Speaker 3: the name that someone else has given their child, don't

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Speaker 3: say anything negative. The line has drawn the curse that

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Speaker 3: has cast. As Bob Dinnan had put it, no one

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Speaker 3: is going to change the name of their baby because

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Speaker 3: you don't like it, but they may well remember for

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Speaker 3: the rest of their lives that you express the dislike

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Speaker 3: for their child's name. I think even subtle statements of dislikes,

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Speaker 3: such as well that's an odd one or a cheerless

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Speaker 3: never heard that name before, is unwelcome. Nor can you

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Speaker 3: get away with saying nothing. In my opinion, there's only

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Speaker 3: one way to react when parents announce the name of

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Speaker 3: their baby. It is fabulous, love it. I think it's

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Speaker 3: reasonable to ours parents why they chose the name and

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Speaker 3: where did that name come from, as long as you're

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Speaker 3: genuinely interested in not just trying to make a point.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting how babies names come under intense scrutiny, jack,

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Speaker 3: isn't it when when they're announced. I remember when our

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Speaker 3: daughter was born and we called her Tommy, people would

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Speaker 3: look puzzled and say, but that's a boy's name. Did

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Speaker 3: they think that we had somehow made a mistake, we'd

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Speaker 3: bought the book of names and had chosen from the

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Speaker 3: wrong list, the boy's list. When people said to me,

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Speaker 3: but Tommy's a boy's name, I've found it somewhere simple

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Speaker 3: just to say it isn't anymore. So there we go,

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Speaker 3: and we look forward to hearing in good time the

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Speaker 3: wonderful name. I'm sure you'll come up with.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny how you get six weeks I think,

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Speaker 2: or so six weeks or so to kind of finalize

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Speaker 2: it and decide it which is good. And we've you know,

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Speaker 2: we've we've i mean been given it a bit of thought.

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Speaker 2: And my wife and I have slightly different approaches because

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Speaker 2: she's I've been like, let's get organized, come on, let's

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Speaker 2: was like, no, I've got to I've got to meet

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Speaker 2: him before I can, before I can, So we sort

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Speaker 2: of had a bit of a long list. Tell you

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Speaker 2: the other thing, that is the thing that has changed

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Speaker 2: baby naming these days. Chat GPT.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's one of them.

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Speaker 2: It's really because you know, there are all sorts of

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Speaker 2: apps for baby naming in these things these days, but

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Speaker 2: you can go to go to something like chat GPT

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Speaker 2: and you can say, oh, you know what, what's a

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Speaker 2: three syllable name of Persian origin that starts with the

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Speaker 2: letter T, and then it'll come up with lots of

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Speaker 2: different you know, lots of different options like that, and

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Speaker 2: then you can say, what does that name mean? Compare

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Speaker 2: it to some other options. It's yeah, it's it's changed

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Speaker 2: the game a little bit. So I will make sure

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Speaker 2: to report back on that front when we've when we've

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Speaker 2: got a lockdown.

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Speaker 3: Given, I've no doubt. Well, congratulates again, Jack, absolutely brilliant.

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Speaker 3: Please hear things gone well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really appreciate it. Kevin keving on with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all your lovely messages as well, so

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Speaker 2: says Jack. I cry with joy this morning. That's beautiful. Oh,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Sue. Oh, it's you and our son together.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's my words. It's moving him necessarily. Jack.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to you and Marva. Great news. I really enjoyed

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Speaker 2: your story this morning, says Carol, I appreciate it, Carol.

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