1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk st B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,013 --> 00:00:22,733 Speaker 2: It's very trick. 4 00:00:23,333 --> 00:00:30,373 Speaker 3: It is out, The test is over, smooths. 5 00:00:29,053 --> 00:00:31,973 Speaker 4: A beauty, It is out. 6 00:00:30,933 --> 00:00:34,493 Speaker 2: And here he goes. This delivery has in uses evolved. 7 00:00:36,373 --> 00:00:39,773 Speaker 1: On the Front foot where Brian Ronnell and Jeremy Coney, 8 00:00:40,093 --> 00:00:43,973 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks dead B at iHeart Radio. 9 00:00:45,893 --> 00:00:49,053 Speaker 4: Hello, we're back on the front foot celebrating success. The 10 00:00:49,173 --> 00:00:53,733 Speaker 4: A's given South Africa AIS banking, celebrating selections, four new 11 00:00:53,773 --> 00:00:57,013 Speaker 4: players and the white men of the World Cup sleeping 12 00:00:57,093 --> 00:01:01,373 Speaker 4: Roscoe out of retirement and we're laughing at KP. It's 13 00:01:01,453 --> 00:01:06,173 Speaker 4: Kevin Petterson, not Kyle Preston, who dislikes all black celebrations. 14 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:10,853 Speaker 4: Did you watch the cricket anywhere lately? Goodness me Jerry 15 00:01:11,693 --> 00:01:16,933 Speaker 4: Kevin Peterson on two PI Vice celebrating South Africa game. 16 00:01:17,293 --> 00:01:19,493 Speaker 4: He was an embarrassment, he said of two by guy. 17 00:01:20,293 --> 00:01:25,533 Speaker 4: All Blacks rugby was built on respect and tradition. Celebrating 18 00:01:25,613 --> 00:01:29,453 Speaker 4: turnovers like you've won the World Cup is up of nonsense. Well, 19 00:01:29,493 --> 00:01:32,133 Speaker 4: like I said, did you ever watch that game of 20 00:01:32,213 --> 00:01:35,333 Speaker 4: fifty four that was played this week at Cardiff between 21 00:01:35,373 --> 00:01:38,693 Speaker 4: England and South Africa, or any cricket games anywhere recently. 22 00:01:38,853 --> 00:01:45,093 Speaker 5: Goodness me, hello Wadds and Garth. Look, haven't I haven't 23 00:01:45,453 --> 00:01:47,533 Speaker 5: sort of heard of that Wadds. To be honest, I 24 00:01:47,613 --> 00:01:51,333 Speaker 5: didn't see the game, so I don't know really what 25 00:01:51,533 --> 00:01:54,493 Speaker 5: the celebration was. Garth probably saw it. He's got three 26 00:01:54,573 --> 00:01:57,853 Speaker 5: or four television sets down in his place and bound 27 00:01:57,893 --> 00:01:58,453 Speaker 5: to have sky. 28 00:01:59,253 --> 00:02:01,813 Speaker 4: It was pointless me asking you that then, mustn't it? 29 00:02:01,813 --> 00:02:03,453 Speaker 5: It was totally pointless. 30 00:02:03,453 --> 00:02:09,573 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Galloways. Galloways, did you see it? I mean 31 00:02:09,813 --> 00:02:11,373 Speaker 4: I did. 32 00:02:11,373 --> 00:02:14,213 Speaker 6: I'm finding it difficult to sort of have enough oxygen 33 00:02:14,253 --> 00:02:18,053 Speaker 6: to even talk about it, you know. But he obviously 34 00:02:18,053 --> 00:02:20,213 Speaker 6: hasn't seen some of the England rugby teams who have 35 00:02:20,253 --> 00:02:23,653 Speaker 6: done exactly the same thing over a sustained period of time. 36 00:02:25,253 --> 00:02:27,613 Speaker 6: Kind of bizarre and it shows, I think, the danger 37 00:02:27,693 --> 00:02:30,693 Speaker 6: of people getting carried away on social media in a 38 00:02:30,733 --> 00:02:34,973 Speaker 6: moment of anger and frustration. Just you know, advice to 39 00:02:35,053 --> 00:02:36,453 Speaker 6: Kevin just breathe. 40 00:02:36,493 --> 00:02:39,653 Speaker 5: Hasn't he seen Warner jumping up and down as soon 41 00:02:39,693 --> 00:02:42,293 Speaker 5: as he gets to seventy three or something like that. 42 00:02:43,133 --> 00:02:45,893 Speaker 5: I mean, Heaven's above he will he won the high 43 00:02:45,933 --> 00:02:48,173 Speaker 5: jump several times. He would have won the high jump 44 00:02:48,173 --> 00:02:48,893 Speaker 5: at the Olympics. 45 00:02:49,573 --> 00:02:52,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, not quite as bad as Stewart national I suppose. 46 00:02:52,453 --> 00:02:55,693 Speaker 4: But never mind, there's so much going on on television 47 00:02:55,733 --> 00:02:59,453 Speaker 4: these days in terms of celebration, you know, the full 48 00:02:59,533 --> 00:03:01,493 Speaker 4: up on Loop Kiss and all that sort of stuff. 49 00:03:01,533 --> 00:03:05,053 Speaker 4: I mean, goodness, gracious me, never mind, we'll laugh at 50 00:03:05,133 --> 00:03:07,773 Speaker 4: Kevin Peterson. You know, we've happily acknowledged down his In 51 00:03:07,853 --> 00:03:11,453 Speaker 4: and Day Men team for their success recently Australia, India, 52 00:03:11,933 --> 00:03:15,733 Speaker 4: Bangladeshan now South Africa, a fifty over win under Duckworth 53 00:03:15,773 --> 00:03:18,973 Speaker 4: Lewis and the commanding win in Potchstrom. That was why 54 00:03:18,973 --> 00:03:21,493 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty five runs and they scored six 55 00:03:21,613 --> 00:03:25,853 Speaker 4: hundred and seven in the first innings. One of the 56 00:03:25,853 --> 00:03:29,973 Speaker 4: stars in the most recent win was Canterbury's Rees Marriu, 57 00:03:30,373 --> 00:03:32,733 Speaker 4: and he joins on the front foot and Rees, that 58 00:03:32,893 --> 00:03:35,853 Speaker 4: success and the personal success you achieved must be highly 59 00:03:35,893 --> 00:03:37,133 Speaker 4: satisfying for you. 60 00:03:37,733 --> 00:03:39,133 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was an awesome match. 61 00:03:40,293 --> 00:03:42,093 Speaker 8: So when a fourd I match away from home is 62 00:03:42,493 --> 00:03:45,013 Speaker 8: always a pretty good achievement, so it's got to be 63 00:03:45,013 --> 00:03:45,453 Speaker 8: a part of it. 64 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:48,693 Speaker 4: Yeah, I looked at your stats and I don't know 65 00:03:48,733 --> 00:03:52,813 Speaker 4: how much interest you put into stats, but scored nearly 66 00:03:53,173 --> 00:03:55,453 Speaker 4: a double one hundred at a run of ball to 67 00:03:56,373 --> 00:04:00,853 Speaker 4: fifty nine deliveries, your second double century. I think as well, 68 00:04:00,933 --> 00:04:04,533 Speaker 4: isn't it must have been something special for you. 69 00:04:05,173 --> 00:04:07,093 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty cool. It was probably lucky 70 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:09,453 Speaker 8: we won the toss in data first. Could have easibly 71 00:04:09,453 --> 00:04:12,053 Speaker 8: been on there the other side of it, so that 72 00:04:12,133 --> 00:04:14,013 Speaker 8: was always going to be nice betting test. 73 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:16,693 Speaker 4: I guess that's one of the things that is of 74 00:04:16,733 --> 00:04:19,293 Speaker 4: interest to us back here is how are you finding 75 00:04:19,333 --> 00:04:22,893 Speaker 4: the conditions and you being an opener probably the testing 76 00:04:22,933 --> 00:04:25,093 Speaker 4: board actually for the side when you start a new game. 77 00:04:25,453 --> 00:04:30,413 Speaker 8: Yeah, and Benoni, it's been been a bit difficult early 78 00:04:30,453 --> 00:04:33,853 Speaker 8: morning and potch here it's been a lot of letter 79 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:37,453 Speaker 8: and more the South Pasca that we were sort of 80 00:04:37,493 --> 00:04:41,053 Speaker 8: expecting a bit harder bit later. So it's been good, 81 00:04:41,173 --> 00:04:44,253 Speaker 8: good tests and good to sort of widen the knowledge 82 00:04:44,253 --> 00:04:47,693 Speaker 8: of how other places play compared to back home. 83 00:04:47,973 --> 00:04:51,693 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I guess the expectation is, well, it's something 84 00:04:51,693 --> 00:04:54,373 Speaker 4: that you have to test, and don't you When you 85 00:04:54,413 --> 00:04:56,693 Speaker 4: get there, you might think that conditions are going to 86 00:04:56,733 --> 00:05:00,213 Speaker 4: be suitable to you, but not necessarily the case. 87 00:05:00,293 --> 00:05:01,013 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. 88 00:05:01,573 --> 00:05:03,893 Speaker 8: You know, South Asca sort of has a victation for 89 00:05:04,013 --> 00:05:06,893 Speaker 8: being heart and fast, but it's not always the case, 90 00:05:07,293 --> 00:05:10,373 Speaker 8: especially and don't know any where it's I'm a bit 91 00:05:10,413 --> 00:05:12,933 Speaker 8: slower and a bit more tennis baller. So it's good 92 00:05:12,933 --> 00:05:16,173 Speaker 8: to actually say at fifthend and sort of adapt as 93 00:05:16,213 --> 00:05:16,973 Speaker 8: you as you play. 94 00:05:17,413 --> 00:05:20,053 Speaker 4: How did you change your game if you changed it 95 00:05:20,093 --> 00:05:24,693 Speaker 4: at all from Bangladesh to South Africa because you didn't 96 00:05:24,773 --> 00:05:27,373 Speaker 4: quite have the same amount of success in the Bangladesh series, 97 00:05:27,413 --> 00:05:28,173 Speaker 4: did you Nah? 98 00:05:28,413 --> 00:05:31,533 Speaker 8: I think it's not changing too much about what you're 99 00:05:31,533 --> 00:05:33,653 Speaker 8: planning on doing. It's just back in that what you're 100 00:05:33,653 --> 00:05:36,293 Speaker 8: going to what you're going to have is good enough 101 00:05:36,493 --> 00:05:38,413 Speaker 8: and then just eventually it'll click. 102 00:05:38,453 --> 00:05:43,733 Speaker 4: And what's your approach to batting? Is it one of 103 00:05:43,893 --> 00:05:48,333 Speaker 4: being dominant or are you someone who likes to score big? 104 00:05:48,373 --> 00:05:50,333 Speaker 4: I mean, when you look back at your record, you've played, 105 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:55,533 Speaker 4: what eighteen first class matches, you're averaging sixty one? Do 106 00:05:55,613 --> 00:05:57,933 Speaker 4: those stats play a part or as you thinking a 107 00:05:57,973 --> 00:06:00,733 Speaker 4: little away from that when you prepare for a first 108 00:06:00,733 --> 00:06:01,453 Speaker 4: class game. 109 00:06:01,933 --> 00:06:05,213 Speaker 8: Nah, it's it's merely just on sort of the enjoyment 110 00:06:05,213 --> 00:06:07,733 Speaker 8: of betting. Personally, I don't really like sitting on the 111 00:06:07,773 --> 00:06:11,333 Speaker 8: side and watching watching other people be So that's sort 112 00:06:11,333 --> 00:06:14,333 Speaker 8: of why I sort of became an openess. So it's 113 00:06:14,373 --> 00:06:17,613 Speaker 8: sort of just having the willingness to stay out there 114 00:06:17,653 --> 00:06:19,973 Speaker 8: and back myself rather than watch other people do it. 115 00:06:20,453 --> 00:06:25,333 Speaker 4: This current team is performing well. I mean New Zealand 116 00:06:25,333 --> 00:06:28,253 Speaker 4: a we look back at the matches they played Australia, 117 00:06:28,293 --> 00:06:33,373 Speaker 4: the tour to India, bangladeshas to the side is developing 118 00:06:33,453 --> 00:06:37,173 Speaker 4: some real talent and adding to the depth that the 119 00:06:37,213 --> 00:06:38,253 Speaker 4: New Zealand game has got. 120 00:06:38,613 --> 00:06:39,613 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty exciting. 121 00:06:40,013 --> 00:06:43,253 Speaker 8: There's a lot of suture black Caps and current black 122 00:06:43,253 --> 00:06:45,093 Speaker 8: Caps on the team and it's pretty cool to be 123 00:06:45,293 --> 00:06:48,613 Speaker 8: winning games away from home. As you said, we saw 124 00:06:49,173 --> 00:06:53,053 Speaker 8: the guys doing India and that was obviously amazing and 125 00:06:54,973 --> 00:06:57,453 Speaker 8: it's quite a big thing for us to win away, 126 00:06:57,973 --> 00:07:00,933 Speaker 8: especially now against good sides in their home conditions. So 127 00:07:00,973 --> 00:07:03,453 Speaker 8: it just shows the equality of the side of the moment. 128 00:07:03,733 --> 00:07:05,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess from your point of view and with 129 00:07:06,253 --> 00:07:11,853 Speaker 4: other players, it to develop for possible top level selection. 130 00:07:11,893 --> 00:07:14,133 Speaker 4: I mean, you've already made the New Zealand Black Cap side, 131 00:07:14,173 --> 00:07:16,413 Speaker 4: haven't you in terms of the short form game. But 132 00:07:16,853 --> 00:07:19,053 Speaker 4: it's a preparation for that as well, isn't it for 133 00:07:19,093 --> 00:07:21,493 Speaker 4: you and the other individuals on the side. 134 00:07:21,773 --> 00:07:22,493 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. 135 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:28,093 Speaker 8: It's about learning other conditions and testing our ability against 136 00:07:28,493 --> 00:07:31,533 Speaker 8: other quality players, and then eventually if we do get 137 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:33,933 Speaker 8: the chance to make the jump up were sort of 138 00:07:34,413 --> 00:07:37,333 Speaker 8: a little bit more prepared, then we would be just 139 00:07:37,373 --> 00:07:38,933 Speaker 8: paying domestic cricket. 140 00:07:38,973 --> 00:07:42,373 Speaker 4: Opening partnership with the Dale Phillips. I don't know how 141 00:07:42,413 --> 00:07:44,173 Speaker 4: many times you would have betted with him in the past, 142 00:07:44,173 --> 00:07:48,533 Speaker 4: but you seemed to have a good rapport and understanding 143 00:07:48,573 --> 00:07:51,773 Speaker 4: of each other's game when you battered in that first innings. 144 00:07:52,173 --> 00:07:52,373 Speaker 5: Yeah. 145 00:07:52,533 --> 00:07:54,333 Speaker 8: Yeah, me and Dale have spent quite a bit of 146 00:07:54,333 --> 00:07:56,893 Speaker 8: the Winter forgere out, obviously going to in the Dish, 147 00:07:56,933 --> 00:07:59,693 Speaker 8: and then we went to Chunai for two weeks for 148 00:07:59,733 --> 00:08:03,013 Speaker 8: a training camp, and then someone to camps and then 149 00:08:03,053 --> 00:08:05,053 Speaker 8: this as well, So you spent a lot of time 150 00:08:05,053 --> 00:08:07,093 Speaker 8: betting with each other and it's been good to sort 151 00:08:07,093 --> 00:08:09,413 Speaker 8: of learn how he goes about it and just understanding 152 00:08:09,453 --> 00:08:12,013 Speaker 8: how you know, we've fubably got different games, but they 153 00:08:12,093 --> 00:08:13,333 Speaker 8: come from in each other quite well. 154 00:08:13,373 --> 00:08:15,333 Speaker 7: And yeah, it's been good batting with something a lot. 155 00:08:15,573 --> 00:08:18,653 Speaker 4: It's hard to tell the opposition that you're up against 156 00:08:19,373 --> 00:08:22,893 Speaker 4: over there. How good have they been that there's some 157 00:08:23,053 --> 00:08:26,253 Speaker 4: pretty useful players both in the Bangladesh side and in 158 00:08:26,293 --> 00:08:28,773 Speaker 4: this South African a side that you've come up against. 159 00:08:29,013 --> 00:08:31,293 Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll come up a lot of a lot of 160 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:36,613 Speaker 8: quality players. Bangladesh had a lot of fish cricketers and 161 00:08:36,653 --> 00:08:39,533 Speaker 8: then the South Africa team's quality. Some of their bats 162 00:08:39,573 --> 00:08:43,893 Speaker 8: when are just second to none. I've played some amazing knocks. 163 00:08:44,733 --> 00:08:46,773 Speaker 8: I guess that puts a bit more on this one 164 00:08:46,893 --> 00:08:49,493 Speaker 8: here and Potch just being able to take twenty work 165 00:08:49,493 --> 00:08:51,973 Speaker 8: at since you know, a really quality team, it's been 166 00:08:52,013 --> 00:08:53,373 Speaker 8: really really cool to see. 167 00:08:54,013 --> 00:08:56,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I guess a lot of emphasis goes on 168 00:08:56,853 --> 00:09:00,293 Speaker 4: the team performance rather than individuals, and I think that 169 00:09:00,293 --> 00:09:03,093 Speaker 4: that's been evident, hasn'd in terms of different people who 170 00:09:03,133 --> 00:09:05,973 Speaker 4: stood up at different times? And that's your responsibility within 171 00:09:06,013 --> 00:09:06,733 Speaker 4: the team, isn't it. 172 00:09:07,613 --> 00:09:07,893 Speaker 5: Yeah? 173 00:09:07,893 --> 00:09:10,013 Speaker 8: Definitely you can't. You can't win a gain just some 174 00:09:10,173 --> 00:09:13,733 Speaker 8: one on performance. So it's been cool. Everyone's sort of 175 00:09:13,813 --> 00:09:17,093 Speaker 8: chipping and when they need to, and even if people 176 00:09:17,133 --> 00:09:20,013 Speaker 8: don't perform, no one's panicking or anything, because you know, 177 00:09:20,013 --> 00:09:21,813 Speaker 8: we beck each other to step up when we need to. 178 00:09:23,413 --> 00:09:28,173 Speaker 4: Have you seen anything that you didn't expect? I imagine 179 00:09:28,253 --> 00:09:32,173 Speaker 4: that you were expecting pace bowlers. They don't seem to 180 00:09:32,253 --> 00:09:35,053 Speaker 4: deliver a lot of spin. When you go across to 181 00:09:35,653 --> 00:09:39,773 Speaker 4: South Africa, where did you get basically what you were expecting. 182 00:09:41,133 --> 00:09:43,693 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of our quality pace bowlers here, 183 00:09:44,653 --> 00:09:46,733 Speaker 8: but I think the wicket here and potch Is probably 184 00:09:47,373 --> 00:09:50,853 Speaker 8: was probably more spin friendly, which we took advantage of 185 00:09:50,853 --> 00:09:53,733 Speaker 8: a Jaden and Eddie both playing a big. 186 00:09:53,573 --> 00:09:55,093 Speaker 7: Part in this match. 187 00:09:56,413 --> 00:10:02,733 Speaker 8: Whereas yeah, I think that spin was probably key, which 188 00:10:02,733 --> 00:10:06,893 Speaker 8: probably we didn't expect as much coming over. But going 189 00:10:06,933 --> 00:10:09,333 Speaker 8: back to only I think it'll go back to pace 190 00:10:09,373 --> 00:10:09,853 Speaker 8: being the key. 191 00:10:10,613 --> 00:10:14,573 Speaker 4: Are just looking at your average is little earlier on 192 00:10:15,013 --> 00:10:18,973 Speaker 4: seventeen hundred runs, an average of sixty one often unheard 193 00:10:18,973 --> 00:10:22,813 Speaker 4: of and players new to domestic cricket, because I guess, 194 00:10:22,933 --> 00:10:25,813 Speaker 4: you know, eighteen matches, you're just starting to get settled 195 00:10:25,813 --> 00:10:28,053 Speaker 4: to some extent, aren't you. You know you've had a 196 00:10:28,053 --> 00:10:32,613 Speaker 4: good look at the first class arena and those figures 197 00:10:32,613 --> 00:10:37,293 Speaker 4: are incredible added to that five hundred's and seven fifties. 198 00:10:37,933 --> 00:10:40,573 Speaker 4: Do you sort of pinch yourself at times at the 199 00:10:40,613 --> 00:10:41,613 Speaker 4: success that you've had. 200 00:10:42,573 --> 00:10:45,613 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I've been quite fortunate just in the 201 00:10:45,733 --> 00:10:49,213 Speaker 8: games that I've played up to now. I think it's 202 00:10:49,213 --> 00:10:52,373 Speaker 8: just always knowing that it's cricket's a funny game and 203 00:10:52,453 --> 00:10:55,173 Speaker 8: it's most likely going to go down from here that average, 204 00:10:55,213 --> 00:10:57,533 Speaker 8: So just being aware of that is probably pretty key. 205 00:10:58,693 --> 00:11:01,613 Speaker 7: We'll be noted, but otherwise nothing drastic will change. Now. 206 00:11:02,373 --> 00:11:05,453 Speaker 4: Are you a player who likes to plan out your 207 00:11:05,453 --> 00:11:08,933 Speaker 4: earnings and are you a seaball hitball man somebody likes to, 208 00:11:09,453 --> 00:11:12,333 Speaker 4: you know, get into the middle and make your judgments 209 00:11:12,373 --> 00:11:13,613 Speaker 4: from there. 210 00:11:16,253 --> 00:11:21,573 Speaker 8: I think I genuinely visualize stuff before I go out, 211 00:11:21,773 --> 00:11:25,333 Speaker 8: whether that's the night before or something. But I think 212 00:11:25,653 --> 00:11:29,453 Speaker 8: I'm someone who sort of learns on the go. Once 213 00:11:29,533 --> 00:11:32,253 Speaker 8: I'm out there, I sort of assess what's happening and 214 00:11:32,293 --> 00:11:35,413 Speaker 8: then sort of go from there. It's not something I 215 00:11:35,413 --> 00:11:37,093 Speaker 8: don't have, you know, I want to get a fifty 216 00:11:37,133 --> 00:11:38,893 Speaker 8: by sitting ambro bulls or anything like that. 217 00:11:39,213 --> 00:11:41,573 Speaker 7: It's more just as. 218 00:11:41,253 --> 00:11:44,293 Speaker 8: Conditions are friendly for betting than not to be positive 219 00:11:44,293 --> 00:11:48,013 Speaker 8: and if not, look to right about Oh. 220 00:11:47,893 --> 00:11:51,373 Speaker 4: Well, congratulations on what you've achieved on us a minute. 221 00:11:51,373 --> 00:11:52,813 Speaker 4: It's nice to be able to watch some of this 222 00:11:52,933 --> 00:11:57,213 Speaker 4: cricket to back home on the internet, and the quality 223 00:11:57,253 --> 00:12:01,893 Speaker 4: of the team performance was exceptional and being able to 224 00:12:01,893 --> 00:12:04,333 Speaker 4: bowl them out on that last day, you know, a 225 00:12:04,413 --> 00:12:06,933 Speaker 4: special women. Does it rate pretty highly with you? 226 00:12:08,413 --> 00:12:13,333 Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely this one in the Bangladesh game, we're very 227 00:12:13,333 --> 00:12:17,093 Speaker 8: happy with. Yeah, definitely out there in terms of achievements 228 00:12:17,093 --> 00:12:18,173 Speaker 8: with this team. 229 00:12:18,733 --> 00:12:21,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rhys Murray, who's becoming quite a star. When you 230 00:12:21,813 --> 00:12:24,093 Speaker 4: look at the players playing in the side, Jerry, I 231 00:12:24,133 --> 00:12:27,173 Speaker 4: mean we've got him, Dale Phillips packed to back hundreds 232 00:12:27,213 --> 00:12:30,293 Speaker 4: and both formats of the game, Fisher's paste bowling coming 233 00:12:30,293 --> 00:12:33,093 Speaker 4: to the fore. Addie Ashock, I love seeing him, and 234 00:12:33,133 --> 00:12:37,533 Speaker 4: of course your favorite is Jaden Lennox. What these guys 235 00:12:37,533 --> 00:12:38,533 Speaker 4: are producing. 236 00:12:38,613 --> 00:12:41,213 Speaker 5: It's good, there isn't it, Wads, And I'm sure all 237 00:12:41,293 --> 00:12:45,533 Speaker 5: three of us would would say it's very pleasing to 238 00:12:45,693 --> 00:12:48,693 Speaker 5: see this continuation of the development of some of our 239 00:12:48,773 --> 00:12:52,053 Speaker 5: younger players. I mean, it was a classic structure to 240 00:12:52,093 --> 00:12:55,773 Speaker 5: the game, wasn't it decent? Pitch one the toss and 241 00:12:56,533 --> 00:13:00,693 Speaker 5: excess in excess of six hundred runs? Now, I mean 242 00:13:00,733 --> 00:13:02,773 Speaker 5: it basically earns you the right to make all the 243 00:13:02,813 --> 00:13:06,213 Speaker 5: decisions in the game. It allows you to have longer 244 00:13:06,293 --> 00:13:10,213 Speaker 5: spells or extended spells for your bowl, especially spinners. It 245 00:13:10,253 --> 00:13:13,093 Speaker 5: allows you to have attacking fields, you earn the right 246 00:13:13,613 --> 00:13:17,853 Speaker 5: to enforce a follow on or not. How long do 247 00:13:17,933 --> 00:13:21,253 Speaker 5: you bat in the second innings and how aggressively to 248 00:13:21,373 --> 00:13:24,733 Speaker 5: set the game up, And having done that, then how 249 00:13:24,813 --> 00:13:26,813 Speaker 5: much spin you want to use in the fourth innings 250 00:13:26,853 --> 00:13:28,693 Speaker 5: of a match because you know what the pitcher's about 251 00:13:28,733 --> 00:13:32,293 Speaker 5: to do. So and New Zealand earned that right because 252 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:36,973 Speaker 5: of that first innings. And you know, we're we're getting 253 00:13:36,973 --> 00:13:41,733 Speaker 5: to a point now where we've got players, as you mentioned, 254 00:13:41,773 --> 00:13:45,333 Speaker 5: like Mario. We've got players like Dale Phillips who's emerging 255 00:13:45,373 --> 00:13:50,013 Speaker 5: as an attacking player. We've got Hayas continuing. We've got 256 00:13:50,093 --> 00:13:52,773 Speaker 5: Kelly thirty two. You worry a bit about his age, 257 00:13:53,173 --> 00:13:57,293 Speaker 5: but you know he's with a chance. Fisher's only twenty five, 258 00:13:57,973 --> 00:14:01,333 Speaker 5: Maria's twenty three. You've got O'Rourke and Seers both in 259 00:14:01,413 --> 00:14:06,173 Speaker 5: their twenties, Ravendra twenty five, folks Is twenty three, Ashoks 260 00:14:06,213 --> 00:14:09,373 Speaker 5: twenty three, are Bases twenty one. You know, it goes 261 00:14:09,453 --> 00:14:12,493 Speaker 5: on and on. They're all of an age. They're coming 262 00:14:12,533 --> 00:14:18,093 Speaker 5: through nicely together. And you know Mario's, for example, Conway 263 00:14:19,733 --> 00:14:23,493 Speaker 5: and young and perhaps lays them to a lesser extent 264 00:14:23,573 --> 00:14:27,453 Speaker 5: because he's captain. They'll all feel that. You can't tell me, 265 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:30,733 Speaker 5: they won't feel it. They'll know about that and they'll 266 00:14:30,773 --> 00:14:33,933 Speaker 5: know that that's got to transfer to runs for them. 267 00:14:34,973 --> 00:14:37,293 Speaker 4: And so they should know that as well. It's great, 268 00:14:37,533 --> 00:14:40,653 Speaker 4: that's you know, it's not good having to tell somebody 269 00:14:40,653 --> 00:14:42,413 Speaker 4: that they're a good player and you're going to leave 270 00:14:42,453 --> 00:14:44,253 Speaker 4: them out of side. GAF. But you know, some of 271 00:14:44,253 --> 00:14:45,893 Speaker 4: these guys are putting their hand up and that's what 272 00:14:45,933 --> 00:14:47,253 Speaker 4: we ask about crickets, isn't it. 273 00:14:47,573 --> 00:14:49,533 Speaker 6: Yeah, we do. But of course it's one thing for 274 00:14:49,573 --> 00:14:51,213 Speaker 6: them to put their hand up, it's another for them 275 00:14:51,253 --> 00:14:54,973 Speaker 6: to be selected. And this is you know, I think 276 00:14:55,013 --> 00:14:57,893 Speaker 6: that New Zealand really missed a trick and I set 277 00:14:57,933 --> 00:15:00,853 Speaker 6: this on a couple of radio interviews I did before 278 00:15:00,893 --> 00:15:04,693 Speaker 6: the Zimbabwe series. So not with the benefit of hindsight. 279 00:15:05,933 --> 00:15:07,933 Speaker 6: You know that Mario I think should have opened and 280 00:15:08,013 --> 00:15:11,853 Speaker 6: that in that series over there, Latham injured, they went 281 00:15:11,933 --> 00:15:14,293 Speaker 6: with Young and they went with Conway and I think, 282 00:15:14,653 --> 00:15:17,133 Speaker 6: you know, for me, it was a mistake that they 283 00:15:17,773 --> 00:15:20,253 Speaker 6: that they picked Conway. He's a free agent now. He 284 00:15:20,333 --> 00:15:23,053 Speaker 6: has struggled recently with former no He scored runs in 285 00:15:23,053 --> 00:15:27,653 Speaker 6: India a while back, but then struggled last season at home. 286 00:15:28,413 --> 00:15:32,253 Speaker 6: You know, I just I'm frustrated by the conservatism that 287 00:15:32,293 --> 00:15:36,613 Speaker 6: they showed. They picked Henry Nichols again to play in 288 00:15:36,613 --> 00:15:40,053 Speaker 6: that Zimbabwe Test, and there was an opportunity to blood 289 00:15:40,133 --> 00:15:44,733 Speaker 6: players like Mariu. So yes, it's very exciting seeing these 290 00:15:44,773 --> 00:15:49,813 Speaker 6: players coming through. But my initial feeling about Rob Robert 291 00:15:49,853 --> 00:15:53,693 Speaker 6: and the coaching as we've gone back to conservative again 292 00:15:53,813 --> 00:15:56,853 Speaker 6: or we're sticking with conservative. You know Mario's endings he 293 00:15:56,893 --> 00:15:59,853 Speaker 6: betted nearly seven hours. It's a really fine effort and 294 00:15:59,853 --> 00:16:04,973 Speaker 6: the strike rate was ninety six. We've been talking about 295 00:16:05,053 --> 00:16:07,373 Speaker 6: Mariu last season. We thought he should have played got 296 00:16:07,373 --> 00:16:10,053 Speaker 6: a run in the home here is here he should 297 00:16:10,173 --> 00:16:13,453 Speaker 6: certainly get a run against the West Indies. But again, 298 00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:16,973 Speaker 6: what an opportunity to pick them against Zimbabwe and play 299 00:16:17,013 --> 00:16:19,773 Speaker 6: them in a couple of tests. But again, you know 300 00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:22,093 Speaker 6: this this camp just feels to me like it's scared 301 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:25,173 Speaker 6: of losing again and you know, you've you've got to 302 00:16:25,213 --> 00:16:27,573 Speaker 6: just take your chances and pick these young players. But 303 00:16:27,853 --> 00:16:33,773 Speaker 6: as Jerry says, plenty of depth and excitement and obviously 304 00:16:33,973 --> 00:16:39,093 Speaker 6: the high performance program is working. And you know, and 305 00:16:39,173 --> 00:16:41,813 Speaker 6: you lock and you think, well, there's there's a bit 306 00:16:41,853 --> 00:16:43,773 Speaker 6: to pick from if there are injuries. 307 00:16:44,373 --> 00:16:49,093 Speaker 5: So I think all we're asking is some thoughtful introduction 308 00:16:50,733 --> 00:16:53,813 Speaker 5: of some of these younger players at the right time. 309 00:16:54,293 --> 00:16:56,653 Speaker 5: And everyone has their own idea of what the right 310 00:16:56,693 --> 00:17:02,933 Speaker 5: time is, and it might well be that Zimbabwe and 311 00:17:03,173 --> 00:17:06,293 Speaker 5: the West Indies may well, although the West Indies have 312 00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:09,453 Speaker 5: got some good seamers. And I when I looked at 313 00:17:09,493 --> 00:17:13,893 Speaker 5: the bowlers in that four day game against South Africa, 314 00:17:14,253 --> 00:17:16,773 Speaker 5: you had Mareki who plays for South who's played for 315 00:17:16,813 --> 00:17:19,733 Speaker 5: South Africa, had Jason Smith who was a sort of 316 00:17:19,733 --> 00:17:22,773 Speaker 5: a medium fast bowler who's played ODIs and t twenties. 317 00:17:23,053 --> 00:17:26,813 Speaker 5: The rest are younger guys and haven't played for South 318 00:17:26,853 --> 00:17:30,573 Speaker 5: Africa yet. So it wasn't their strongest bowling attack they 319 00:17:30,613 --> 00:17:33,133 Speaker 5: could have put out. They were stronger in the ODIs 320 00:17:33,773 --> 00:17:38,213 Speaker 5: with people like Putsea and Bongwa and players like that 321 00:17:38,293 --> 00:17:41,493 Speaker 5: who have played for South Africa. But you still got 322 00:17:41,533 --> 00:17:43,933 Speaker 5: to score the runs, don't you. And I take your 323 00:17:43,933 --> 00:17:48,893 Speaker 5: point about the length of time that Maray was able 324 00:17:48,933 --> 00:17:52,653 Speaker 5: to bat and runs right down the order. I mean, hey, 325 00:17:52,693 --> 00:17:55,893 Speaker 5: you got a seventy keen Simon Kean. He looks as 326 00:17:55,933 --> 00:17:58,053 Speaker 5: if he's coming out of scoring runs at the moment, 327 00:17:58,133 --> 00:18:00,933 Speaker 5: doesn't he And he got a forty yard and you 328 00:18:00,973 --> 00:18:04,173 Speaker 5: know Carter got a fifty again, So there were runs 329 00:18:04,253 --> 00:18:08,053 Speaker 5: right down there. Everybody got stuck in and that won 330 00:18:08,053 --> 00:18:10,533 Speaker 5: them the match obviously, Jerry. 331 00:18:10,693 --> 00:18:13,933 Speaker 6: They just add also when we talk about the conservatism 332 00:18:13,973 --> 00:18:18,333 Speaker 6: of New Zealand in that Zimbabwe series as again, you know, 333 00:18:18,413 --> 00:18:21,213 Speaker 6: and we talked last season about Blundle's form for New 334 00:18:21,293 --> 00:18:23,933 Speaker 6: Zealand and I you know, I think Blundell has been 335 00:18:23,973 --> 00:18:26,653 Speaker 6: struggling with the clubs over the last twelve months or so. 336 00:18:27,253 --> 00:18:30,373 Speaker 6: An opportunity to pick Hay and introduce him to Test 337 00:18:30,373 --> 00:18:32,213 Speaker 6: cricket as well, another one lost. 338 00:18:33,853 --> 00:18:37,493 Speaker 5: Look, I don't think, you know, there's nothing wrong with 339 00:18:37,613 --> 00:18:41,493 Speaker 5: asking a player to to go and have a little 340 00:18:41,493 --> 00:18:43,853 Speaker 5: bit rest, a little bit of rest and work on 341 00:18:43,893 --> 00:18:46,613 Speaker 5: their game and come back and when they're when they're 342 00:18:46,613 --> 00:18:49,333 Speaker 5: back to some fall, I don't think that's an issue. 343 00:18:49,373 --> 00:18:52,373 Speaker 5: You're not if you miss one game or two games. 344 00:18:52,573 --> 00:18:55,133 Speaker 5: You're not out of the picture, are you. I don't 345 00:18:55,133 --> 00:18:58,733 Speaker 5: think nowadays that's the case. So I don't have too 346 00:18:58,813 --> 00:19:03,173 Speaker 5: much problem with those those sorts of things. But I 347 00:19:03,253 --> 00:19:06,373 Speaker 5: just I just like the growing number that we've we've 348 00:19:06,453 --> 00:19:11,173 Speaker 5: we've just gone through showing signs now they've been to 349 00:19:11,293 --> 00:19:14,653 Speaker 5: Bangladesh and Asia. They've now been to South Africa where 350 00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,453 Speaker 5: the pictures can do a little bit more. This one 351 00:19:16,533 --> 00:19:19,693 Speaker 5: was quite decent, but and they've been to Australia and 352 00:19:19,733 --> 00:19:23,373 Speaker 5: they've done those things as well. So this must put 353 00:19:23,453 --> 00:19:27,973 Speaker 5: us in a stronger position of choice anyway, And maybe 354 00:19:28,013 --> 00:19:30,533 Speaker 5: the fact that it was maybe the fact that it 355 00:19:30,573 --> 00:19:36,373 Speaker 5: was the coach's first first tour might have been influenced 356 00:19:36,413 --> 00:19:40,413 Speaker 5: by other people around the New Zealand development side of 357 00:19:40,453 --> 00:19:41,533 Speaker 5: the game. I don't know. 358 00:19:42,013 --> 00:19:44,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they have the issues, of course of making 359 00:19:44,453 --> 00:19:46,773 Speaker 4: sure that players health has taken care of this so 360 00:19:46,893 --> 00:19:49,973 Speaker 4: much cricket now and we've got to rest everybody all 361 00:19:50,013 --> 00:19:52,453 Speaker 4: on Sundry, even though we're getting big salaries. But we 362 00:19:52,493 --> 00:19:55,653 Speaker 4: should trumpet people like Rhech Marrio. You know, if he 363 00:19:55,693 --> 00:19:58,653 Speaker 4: was in England, he'd be the greatest thing since Jacob Beth, 364 00:19:58,733 --> 00:20:00,893 Speaker 4: Or wouldn't he? I mean, for goodness sake, I mean, 365 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:04,173 Speaker 4: you know, we've we've got a star here. If it 366 00:20:04,173 --> 00:20:06,453 Speaker 4: wasn't Jacob Beth, it'll be Harry Brook, or it might 367 00:20:06,533 --> 00:20:10,933 Speaker 4: be some somebody else who becomes a star. You know 368 00:20:11,173 --> 00:20:13,773 Speaker 4: five minutes after they've picked up a cricket bat, never mine. 369 00:20:14,293 --> 00:20:17,453 Speaker 4: We look forward to their next game and hopefully when 370 00:20:17,453 --> 00:20:21,213 Speaker 4: they get back to Benoni they can recapture that kind 371 00:20:21,413 --> 00:20:22,013 Speaker 4: of form. 372 00:20:22,413 --> 00:20:26,133 Speaker 1: Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot. 373 00:20:26,613 --> 00:20:29,573 Speaker 4: While we're celebrating, Four White Funds are in line to 374 00:20:29,573 --> 00:20:32,493 Speaker 4: make their ICC Women's Cricket World Cup deboo next month 375 00:20:32,573 --> 00:20:35,173 Speaker 4: after being named in the squad for the twenty twenty 376 00:20:35,213 --> 00:20:40,293 Speaker 4: five event. Flora Devonshire from Central Hines, Polly England's from 377 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:45,773 Speaker 4: the Sparks, Bella James as Well and Auckland Hearts Brie Illing. 378 00:20:46,053 --> 00:20:51,733 Speaker 4: Some interesting selections there, Garth, I'm a big fan of 379 00:20:51,813 --> 00:20:55,253 Speaker 4: this pre Illing left arm swings the ball. She could 380 00:20:55,293 --> 00:20:58,013 Speaker 4: be an important part of the game as she develops 381 00:20:58,013 --> 00:21:01,413 Speaker 4: the consistency needed. And the other one is Flora Devonshire 382 00:21:01,573 --> 00:21:03,613 Speaker 4: in place of fran Jonas. 383 00:21:03,893 --> 00:21:06,893 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you on Elling. I've watched a 384 00:21:06,893 --> 00:21:09,773 Speaker 6: lot of the domestic at the women's Domestic cricket in 385 00:21:09,813 --> 00:21:13,573 Speaker 6: the last few seasons and being pleased to see that 386 00:21:13,613 --> 00:21:17,133 Speaker 6: the standard across the team seems to be getting stronger. 387 00:21:17,253 --> 00:21:19,533 Speaker 6: Elling has stood out for a couple of years for me, 388 00:21:20,053 --> 00:21:23,773 Speaker 6: as you say, once left arm. She's not fast, she's 389 00:21:23,853 --> 00:21:28,973 Speaker 6: medium fast, but she's accurate and she has played at 390 00:21:29,013 --> 00:21:32,373 Speaker 6: times in games where she's been put under quite a 391 00:21:32,373 --> 00:21:35,013 Speaker 6: lot of pressure and I felt she has a very 392 00:21:35,013 --> 00:21:37,693 Speaker 6: good temperament and is able to respond to that. So 393 00:21:38,533 --> 00:21:41,973 Speaker 6: I think she deserves her selection and will serve New 394 00:21:42,053 --> 00:21:46,133 Speaker 6: Zealand well. The Devonshire experiment, if I can call it, 395 00:21:46,213 --> 00:21:51,093 Speaker 6: that is as interesting in a way at Mirror's friend 396 00:21:51,173 --> 00:21:55,493 Speaker 6: Jonas in the last World Cup here a lot of 397 00:21:55,533 --> 00:22:00,853 Speaker 6: it played in christ your j obviously, and you'll remember 398 00:22:00,933 --> 00:22:03,533 Speaker 6: Jonas came in I think as a seventeen or eighteen 399 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:07,533 Speaker 6: year old, and now of course she's put to one side. 400 00:22:08,493 --> 00:22:12,093 Speaker 6: Jonas's Record's not too bad. She's played twenty six od eyes. 401 00:22:13,053 --> 00:22:15,973 Speaker 6: Her average is high at forty two, but I always 402 00:22:16,133 --> 00:22:18,173 Speaker 6: like to look at the economy rate as well, and 403 00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:20,653 Speaker 6: she's similar to a media cur at four point six, 404 00:22:22,013 --> 00:22:27,093 Speaker 6: and her twenty twenty record is pretty good, so you know, 405 00:22:27,173 --> 00:22:29,613 Speaker 6: Jonas might feel quite hard done by. They're obviously going 406 00:22:29,693 --> 00:22:31,613 Speaker 6: with you devons She's only played in a couple of 407 00:22:31,613 --> 00:22:34,213 Speaker 6: T twenty games and in those games has just bolb 408 00:22:34,213 --> 00:22:37,133 Speaker 6: with two overs, so they obviously like what they see 409 00:22:37,173 --> 00:22:40,933 Speaker 6: with her. You know, where they're playing, they will potentially 410 00:22:40,973 --> 00:22:43,773 Speaker 6: play three spinners, I would think, so you can expect 411 00:22:43,813 --> 00:22:47,253 Speaker 6: that Devonshire will get a crack. I suppose the other 412 00:22:47,293 --> 00:22:49,013 Speaker 6: thing that it occurred to me and Eden Carson's the 413 00:22:49,053 --> 00:22:52,453 Speaker 6: other player, of course, the off spinner from Otago who 414 00:22:52,493 --> 00:22:55,813 Speaker 6: they seem to like. She played a lot when they 415 00:22:55,853 --> 00:22:58,373 Speaker 6: won the T twenty World Cup in twenty twenty four. 416 00:22:59,013 --> 00:23:02,493 Speaker 6: She played in six matches in that tournament. And interesting, 417 00:23:02,533 --> 00:23:06,693 Speaker 6: Lee Caspar who is still thirty three years of age, 418 00:23:06,773 --> 00:23:10,413 Speaker 6: so not complete over the hill. You know, She's played 419 00:23:10,453 --> 00:23:14,453 Speaker 6: thirty nine One Day Internationals for New Zealand, taking sixty 420 00:23:14,493 --> 00:23:18,973 Speaker 6: five wickets at nineteen. She's played fifty two to twenty games, 421 00:23:19,013 --> 00:23:22,933 Speaker 6: taken eighty one wickets at fourteen, and she can't get 422 00:23:22,933 --> 00:23:24,933 Speaker 6: a run in the team. She only played one game 423 00:23:24,973 --> 00:23:27,373 Speaker 6: in that World Cup that I'm talking about, and you'll remember, 424 00:23:28,533 --> 00:23:31,733 Speaker 6: and it was a talking point in the World Cup 425 00:23:31,733 --> 00:23:34,253 Speaker 6: here in New Zealand. She wasn't picked on that squad either, 426 00:23:34,733 --> 00:23:38,093 Speaker 6: And those questions have never been asked were answered for me. 427 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:41,213 Speaker 6: Casperick's record is outstanding. 428 00:23:41,893 --> 00:23:46,333 Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting, Jerry. The young players are starting to develop 429 00:23:46,333 --> 00:23:48,413 Speaker 4: and the test will be how they perform and the 430 00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:54,133 Speaker 4: test of their development improvements whatever, will be how the 431 00:23:54,213 --> 00:23:58,133 Speaker 4: younger ones perform, but more so how the established senior 432 00:23:58,173 --> 00:24:02,093 Speaker 4: players perform, because the onus is on them now to 433 00:24:02,133 --> 00:24:04,733 Speaker 4: do the job. You know, everybody has to play a part, 434 00:24:05,013 --> 00:24:08,693 Speaker 4: but the senior experienced players are always important in these matches, 435 00:24:08,693 --> 00:24:09,133 Speaker 4: aren't they? 436 00:24:09,213 --> 00:24:11,613 Speaker 5: In tournaments we said that at quite a few times. 437 00:24:11,653 --> 00:24:15,893 Speaker 5: Wadds hasn't we regarding the women's side in particular, because 438 00:24:15,933 --> 00:24:21,333 Speaker 5: there's been quite a gap between Divine baits Kerr to 439 00:24:21,453 --> 00:24:25,333 Speaker 5: some of the other players. Maddie Green, we would expect 440 00:24:25,413 --> 00:24:29,013 Speaker 5: that she could keep going and her development. She started 441 00:24:29,053 --> 00:24:31,813 Speaker 5: to show some more runs last year. She's thirty two 442 00:24:31,933 --> 00:24:35,373 Speaker 5: now and Brooke Halliday is the other one, the left 443 00:24:35,413 --> 00:24:40,493 Speaker 5: hander twenty nine. I think bri Illing you mentioned Wadds. 444 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:43,613 Speaker 5: She's only twenty one, and Garth's right, she's only about 445 00:24:43,613 --> 00:24:47,573 Speaker 5: medium and maybe she because of that she can get 446 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:50,333 Speaker 5: a little bit quicker as well. But you're right, she 447 00:24:50,373 --> 00:24:53,213 Speaker 5: swings it and it's the sort of thing I think 448 00:24:53,253 --> 00:24:56,373 Speaker 5: in Asia where they're going to be playing, in India 449 00:24:56,453 --> 00:25:00,133 Speaker 5: and in Colombo, they'll be playing as well in Sri 450 00:25:00,213 --> 00:25:03,733 Speaker 5: Lanka that you need to be moving the ball as 451 00:25:03,813 --> 00:25:06,093 Speaker 5: much as you can, keep the ball moving as long 452 00:25:06,133 --> 00:25:12,093 Speaker 5: as you can. So look, I mean the order it 453 00:25:12,173 --> 00:25:15,373 Speaker 5: seems to me is going to be pretty much baits Plummer, Kerr, 454 00:25:15,893 --> 00:25:19,653 Speaker 5: then Green, Divine Halliday perhaps, and then you've got to 455 00:25:19,693 --> 00:25:22,693 Speaker 5: pick your keeper, whether you go for Izzy Gays or Polyenglis. 456 00:25:23,053 --> 00:25:25,373 Speaker 5: I like Engliss actually, I think she looks an athlete 457 00:25:25,373 --> 00:25:28,813 Speaker 5: behind the stumps. Then you've got you know, Jess Kerr, 458 00:25:28,893 --> 00:25:32,293 Speaker 5: and then presumably to who and then Illing maybe I 459 00:25:32,333 --> 00:25:34,493 Speaker 5: don't know, or whether you're going to pick your other 460 00:25:34,573 --> 00:25:39,933 Speaker 5: spinners and so on. So they've got a difficult start 461 00:25:40,453 --> 00:25:43,573 Speaker 5: in the tournament. They play Australia first and in South Africa, 462 00:25:43,613 --> 00:25:47,053 Speaker 5: and they've got a difficult finish where they finish against 463 00:25:47,093 --> 00:25:51,893 Speaker 5: India in India and then England at Vishakapatnam. They're going 464 00:25:51,933 --> 00:25:55,133 Speaker 5: to have to win. I would have thought they must 465 00:25:55,173 --> 00:25:57,413 Speaker 5: win if they're going to make the Semis. They've got 466 00:25:57,413 --> 00:26:02,293 Speaker 5: to beat Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, and that's in 467 00:26:02,613 --> 00:26:06,773 Speaker 5: Asian conditions, so that won't be necessarily very easy with 468 00:26:06,893 --> 00:26:10,413 Speaker 5: all their spinners, and they'll probably also have to beat 469 00:26:10,493 --> 00:26:14,333 Speaker 5: one of either Australia, India, South Africa or England, which 470 00:26:14,373 --> 00:26:17,493 Speaker 5: you think South Africa or England may be the easier too, 471 00:26:17,533 --> 00:26:20,893 Speaker 5: and the circumstances, but you know, we'll just have to 472 00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:23,933 Speaker 5: wait and see. Because England have got Charlie Dean, haven't they. 473 00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:27,133 Speaker 5: They've got Sarah Glenn the off spinner as well, and 474 00:26:27,213 --> 00:26:30,973 Speaker 5: Sophie eccleston of course, so they won't be easy over there. 475 00:26:31,293 --> 00:26:34,213 Speaker 5: And South Africa have their own spinners as well, so 476 00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:39,133 Speaker 5: it's not an easy competition for them. It's a longer 477 00:26:39,173 --> 00:26:43,573 Speaker 5: competition than the one they just recently won, and therefore 478 00:26:43,613 --> 00:26:45,853 Speaker 5: you can be exposed a little bit. There's more game 479 00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:50,733 Speaker 5: to be exposed, and so let's just wait and see. 480 00:26:50,733 --> 00:26:53,373 Speaker 5: They've been to Chennai, they're having a couple of games 481 00:26:53,373 --> 00:26:55,573 Speaker 5: in Dubai against England and then they've got the warm 482 00:26:55,613 --> 00:27:00,733 Speaker 5: up games. So as the coach said, you know, they're 483 00:27:00,773 --> 00:27:04,053 Speaker 5: probably the best prepared side that he's seen since he's 484 00:27:04,093 --> 00:27:04,493 Speaker 5: been there. 485 00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:08,893 Speaker 6: It'll be very interesting to see how they know how 486 00:27:08,933 --> 00:27:13,813 Speaker 6: they back up off their tournament win, their wild the 487 00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,293 Speaker 6: T twenty World Cup win, which I think you know, 488 00:27:16,453 --> 00:27:21,053 Speaker 6: everybody I think would fairly say was surprised by a 489 00:27:21,093 --> 00:27:24,893 Speaker 6: fantastic achievement by the side, and it'll be it'll be 490 00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:28,653 Speaker 6: interesting to see whether they can launch from that, or 491 00:27:28,653 --> 00:27:32,893 Speaker 6: whether they stay at sort of this or whether they regress. 492 00:27:33,093 --> 00:27:34,733 Speaker 6: I'm going to be very interested, of course, at Sophie 493 00:27:34,733 --> 00:27:38,853 Speaker 6: Divine's last tournament. She's been a very significant contributor to 494 00:27:39,013 --> 00:27:41,253 Speaker 6: New Zealand cricket over a long period of time and 495 00:27:41,293 --> 00:27:44,733 Speaker 6: I'm sure they want to send her off in a 496 00:27:44,773 --> 00:27:47,533 Speaker 6: fine style. She'll be She'll be a very important player 497 00:27:47,573 --> 00:27:50,413 Speaker 6: over there as well. And I think you know, we 498 00:27:50,533 --> 00:27:52,973 Speaker 6: talk about or think about divines batting a lot. I 499 00:27:52,973 --> 00:27:55,373 Speaker 6: think her bowling in those conditions, with their changes of 500 00:27:55,413 --> 00:27:57,693 Speaker 6: pace and things, will be a useful asset as well. 501 00:27:57,933 --> 00:28:03,693 Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting to watch how that basically develops. As Jerry said, 502 00:28:03,693 --> 00:28:05,853 Speaker 4: they've got those warm up games and they are going 503 00:28:05,933 --> 00:28:08,573 Speaker 4: to be significant because everybody needs to get a bit 504 00:28:08,573 --> 00:28:11,973 Speaker 4: of a run to be prepared for the game against Australia. 505 00:28:12,013 --> 00:28:15,173 Speaker 4: That's a hard start to any tournament, the number one 506 00:28:15,253 --> 00:28:18,293 Speaker 4: side of the world. Oh we've just got Australia, Okay, 507 00:28:18,333 --> 00:28:22,773 Speaker 4: talking about experience. Ross Taylor's coming out of retirement. He's 508 00:28:22,773 --> 00:28:26,053 Speaker 4: going to play for Samah and he could be at 509 00:28:26,093 --> 00:28:30,453 Speaker 4: the World T twenty Cup in twenty twenty six. I 510 00:28:30,533 --> 00:28:33,173 Speaker 4: always wanted to give back to the Polynesian community in 511 00:28:33,213 --> 00:28:35,693 Speaker 4: some sort of way. I always thought it would be 512 00:28:35,733 --> 00:28:39,733 Speaker 4: more in a coaching role or other avenues. I never 513 00:28:39,813 --> 00:28:45,453 Speaker 4: thought i'd play. Goodness me, he'd be pretty useful in inside. 514 00:28:45,653 --> 00:28:48,493 Speaker 4: Jerry Wady, Oh, of course he will. 515 00:28:48,613 --> 00:28:52,653 Speaker 5: Just his experience alone, I think, and he'll he'll lift 516 00:28:52,653 --> 00:28:55,173 Speaker 5: the sort of the feeling amongst them. He's forty one now, 517 00:28:57,373 --> 00:29:01,213 Speaker 5: but at the same time as mum Sarmon, he's done 518 00:29:01,253 --> 00:29:04,453 Speaker 5: his standdown period. He wants to help and give back, 519 00:29:04,733 --> 00:29:09,893 Speaker 5: as you've just said, and you know you can't. You 520 00:29:09,973 --> 00:29:12,933 Speaker 5: can't complain about any of that. I see Sean Celia 521 00:29:13,093 --> 00:29:16,533 Speaker 5: also from Auckland who was with the News z A side. 522 00:29:16,573 --> 00:29:19,893 Speaker 5: He's there as well. Tara Nutsula, he was a leg 523 00:29:19,973 --> 00:29:24,133 Speaker 5: spinner from Auckland. He's the coach. And and I think 524 00:29:24,133 --> 00:29:26,213 Speaker 5: there's someone that was there, someone else I think from 525 00:29:26,253 --> 00:29:27,173 Speaker 5: New Zealand as well. 526 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:32,653 Speaker 4: Solomon. I think, isn't it he if it's dion Nesha's 527 00:29:32,653 --> 00:29:35,693 Speaker 4: son that he is a very talented cricketer. You know, 528 00:29:36,053 --> 00:29:40,293 Speaker 4: I've seen him play a college game in Wellington towards 529 00:29:40,293 --> 00:29:44,053 Speaker 4: the end of the season, and you know he's got 530 00:29:44,093 --> 00:29:47,013 Speaker 4: some skills. I don't know if you seen any of 531 00:29:47,013 --> 00:29:51,373 Speaker 4: these Sama players, gath that you've probably seen them around 532 00:29:51,373 --> 00:29:53,093 Speaker 4: their traps at Hagley over or some of them. 533 00:29:55,093 --> 00:29:58,773 Speaker 6: That's right, Sol, Yes, no, look at I think it's 534 00:29:58,813 --> 00:30:03,493 Speaker 6: fantastic for Ross. Good on him, you know, he's I 535 00:30:03,533 --> 00:30:06,733 Speaker 6: hope it goes well for him. It won't be easy, 536 00:30:06,813 --> 00:30:09,693 Speaker 6: but I'm sure he's in tray and doing his stuff. 537 00:30:09,733 --> 00:30:12,573 Speaker 6: He's he's earn't the right really to do what he likes. 538 00:30:12,573 --> 00:30:13,013 Speaker 4: He was a. 539 00:30:12,973 --> 00:30:16,413 Speaker 6: Fantastic servant for New Zealand cricket. And you know, when 540 00:30:16,413 --> 00:30:19,533 Speaker 6: we look at I see his age as being quite tender. 541 00:30:19,573 --> 00:30:22,613 Speaker 6: When you think that Wilford Rhodes played Test cricket at 542 00:30:22,613 --> 00:30:25,973 Speaker 6: the age of fifty two. Bert Ironmonger was fifty playing 543 00:30:26,013 --> 00:30:29,573 Speaker 6: for Australia. W. G. Grays and George gunn All over fifty, 544 00:30:29,693 --> 00:30:32,133 Speaker 6: so he looks youthful compared to them. 545 00:30:32,853 --> 00:30:34,093 Speaker 4: Well were you retired, Jerry? 546 00:30:35,493 --> 00:30:39,773 Speaker 5: I retired at thirty seven. Goodness pretty late though, wasn't it. 547 00:30:40,253 --> 00:30:43,533 Speaker 5: You saw the way I was unable to move probably 548 00:30:43,573 --> 00:30:45,013 Speaker 5: the last five years I played. 549 00:30:45,453 --> 00:30:48,653 Speaker 6: But some could say a little bit too late. 550 00:30:49,373 --> 00:30:50,893 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. 551 00:30:51,173 --> 00:30:53,973 Speaker 4: Oh that's cruel, absolutly cruel. 552 00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:57,333 Speaker 5: A nice little story, isn't it. It's a good story. 553 00:30:57,693 --> 00:31:01,493 Speaker 2: Brian Waad, Jeremy Coney on the front foot. 554 00:31:02,893 --> 00:31:06,533 Speaker 4: What were you doing on February the fourth, nineteen eighty four? 555 00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:08,253 Speaker 4: Now I know what Jerry was doing. What were you 556 00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:13,773 Speaker 4: are you doing? Gas, February the fourth, nineteen eighty four, Well, 557 00:31:13,853 --> 00:31:14,213 Speaker 4: if it. 558 00:31:14,213 --> 00:31:17,973 Speaker 6: Was a during the week, I was in the University 559 00:31:18,053 --> 00:31:22,733 Speaker 6: holidays in Dunedin and I was the assistant groundsman to 560 00:31:22,853 --> 00:31:27,813 Speaker 6: former New Zealand player Ao Campbell at the University Oval. 561 00:31:27,893 --> 00:31:30,093 Speaker 6: That's exactly what I was doing, sitting on a moa, 562 00:31:30,333 --> 00:31:33,613 Speaker 6: listening to as it then was sports runder. 563 00:31:34,573 --> 00:31:37,733 Speaker 5: Jerry, where were you in which case you would have 564 00:31:37,813 --> 00:31:45,253 Speaker 5: heard probably New Zealand delivering a stumping win against England 565 00:31:45,453 --> 00:31:48,133 Speaker 5: Gas at Lancaster Park. 566 00:31:48,973 --> 00:31:52,773 Speaker 6: I did, indeed I remember it well, and Jerry, of 567 00:31:52,813 --> 00:31:55,573 Speaker 6: course your memory will be much greater than mine. But 568 00:31:55,653 --> 00:31:58,453 Speaker 6: the thing that always stood out to me the most 569 00:31:58,613 --> 00:32:01,733 Speaker 6: was the talk before the game about the green pitch 570 00:32:01,773 --> 00:32:05,853 Speaker 6: at Lancaster Park and how the team that won the 571 00:32:05,893 --> 00:32:09,533 Speaker 6: toss would insert the sigh and that would be the 572 00:32:09,653 --> 00:32:13,413 Speaker 6: end of it. And indeed it was England who won 573 00:32:13,453 --> 00:32:18,013 Speaker 6: the toss. Bob Willis was captain from memory and New 574 00:32:18,093 --> 00:32:20,693 Speaker 6: Zealand were inserted and scored three hundred and seven, with 575 00:32:20,813 --> 00:32:24,573 Speaker 6: the Great Richard Hadley scoring ninety nine of the strike 576 00:32:24,613 --> 00:32:26,533 Speaker 6: grade of one hundred and twenty two. 577 00:32:26,973 --> 00:32:30,813 Speaker 4: And day there Day two was the fourth of February, 578 00:32:30,973 --> 00:32:32,373 Speaker 4: and here were some of the highlights. 579 00:32:32,613 --> 00:32:34,813 Speaker 2: Hadley bowling to Tabareau, and Tabreau. 580 00:32:34,533 --> 00:32:34,813 Speaker 6: Edges that. 581 00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:46,013 Speaker 2: England and nine for two wickets. Is Hadley now to 582 00:32:46,373 --> 00:32:55,933 Speaker 2: give a shrug on the pack. England ten for three wickets. 583 00:32:55,813 --> 00:33:00,053 Speaker 9: Ten for three wickets, resuming from the overnight turtle of 584 00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:02,053 Speaker 9: seven for one. 585 00:33:02,253 --> 00:33:03,973 Speaker 2: And he comes in and he bowls to Randall, and 586 00:33:04,053 --> 00:33:12,453 Speaker 2: Randall is the man is caught second slip by Coney. 587 00:33:17,933 --> 00:33:19,733 Speaker 2: England is ten for four. 588 00:33:20,813 --> 00:33:27,733 Speaker 9: Randall court Coney, Bold Headley no score, candid. 589 00:33:28,133 --> 00:33:31,013 Speaker 2: Lot down the leg side and hoisted by Botham and 590 00:33:31,253 --> 00:33:35,733 Speaker 2: his caught one leg by Chatfield. Botham is out and 591 00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:40,973 Speaker 2: England are forty one for five wickets. He's cork Chatfield 592 00:33:41,493 --> 00:33:43,373 Speaker 2: vot gowns for eighteen. 593 00:33:45,173 --> 00:33:47,533 Speaker 3: Chatfield runs in bowls again and always break them in. 594 00:33:47,573 --> 00:33:52,853 Speaker 2: He's caught at the water ms out at the weather well. 595 00:33:52,893 --> 00:33:54,533 Speaker 3: He had to play that one. It was closer to 596 00:33:54,573 --> 00:33:56,493 Speaker 3: the off stump. He had no choice about playing that. 597 00:33:56,613 --> 00:33:59,333 Speaker 3: He pushed out of cans again bowls and it's been 598 00:33:59,413 --> 00:34:12,013 Speaker 3: easy part first slip by Jeff Crow England forty seven 599 00:34:12,373 --> 00:34:16,693 Speaker 3: for seven. Now with Bob Taylor caught Jeff Crowe. 600 00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:20,093 Speaker 7: I got us on four and waits for Ken's who 601 00:34:20,173 --> 00:34:22,293 Speaker 7: goes and now bowls to him. Well up and pig 602 00:34:22,333 --> 00:34:22,693 Speaker 7: All Well. 603 00:34:22,613 --> 00:34:24,933 Speaker 2: Hell back and appeal for Rob we do. Pig is out. 604 00:34:26,573 --> 00:34:29,493 Speaker 3: Once again Chatfield, this time to Willis Boles Bell used up, 605 00:34:29,613 --> 00:34:34,733 Speaker 3: knocked out Willis Vowl Chatfield. It's nine for seventy two 606 00:34:35,013 --> 00:34:36,013 Speaker 3: and Willis is gone. 607 00:34:36,213 --> 00:34:38,933 Speaker 9: Chatfield comes in down bowls to Cohns and Cowns gets 608 00:34:38,973 --> 00:34:41,213 Speaker 9: a ball and he's caught by Cony, beautifully diving to 609 00:34:41,293 --> 00:34:46,813 Speaker 9: his right. A second slip, A moment's hesitation by the 610 00:34:46,933 --> 00:34:51,173 Speaker 9: umpire to make sure looked at mister Goodall, and Cown's 611 00:34:51,293 --> 00:34:54,653 Speaker 9: beautifully caught by Coney diving to his right. England's innings 612 00:34:54,733 --> 00:34:58,693 Speaker 9: has ended at eighty two, the lowest total against New 613 00:34:58,773 --> 00:35:01,613 Speaker 9: Zealand at Lancaster Park in the history of Test cricket. 614 00:35:01,813 --> 00:35:06,213 Speaker 4: Now you were Jerry one of the two dismissals and 615 00:35:06,333 --> 00:35:12,733 Speaker 4: test cricket for les Tony Pigot. Yeah, both Wellington boys, 616 00:35:12,773 --> 00:35:13,853 Speaker 4: you and Bruce Edgar. 617 00:35:14,693 --> 00:35:19,573 Speaker 5: Yeah, both of the He got both of us out. Yeah. Look, 618 00:35:21,013 --> 00:35:25,373 Speaker 5: I do remember that they had difficulty finding an eleven. 619 00:35:25,413 --> 00:35:29,093 Speaker 5: They wanted to play four seamas I think, and Neil 620 00:35:29,173 --> 00:35:33,493 Speaker 5: Foster got his toe you know, hit at training just 621 00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:35,933 Speaker 5: leading up to it by Bob Willis, so he was out. 622 00:35:36,893 --> 00:35:39,773 Speaker 5: And then Graham Dilly was going to come in to 623 00:35:39,933 --> 00:35:42,173 Speaker 5: the side and he failed a fitness test, so they 624 00:35:42,253 --> 00:35:46,653 Speaker 5: started looking round and so that's where lest the pigate. 625 00:35:47,373 --> 00:35:49,693 Speaker 5: I suppose the other person Garth would know would be 626 00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:53,573 Speaker 5: Neil Mallinder would have been around in those days for Otargo. Yeah, 627 00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:59,213 Speaker 5: Leicester Leicester was playing for us for Wellington and the other. 628 00:35:59,933 --> 00:36:02,013 Speaker 5: The thing about Leicester though that he had he had 629 00:36:02,133 --> 00:36:05,053 Speaker 5: arranged to be married on the Monday of the match, 630 00:36:06,453 --> 00:36:10,293 Speaker 5: and when he got the offer from England management, he 631 00:36:10,413 --> 00:36:13,093 Speaker 5: struck a blow for cricket really because he postponed the 632 00:36:13,173 --> 00:36:17,773 Speaker 5: wedding immediately and with us one chance to play for England. 633 00:36:18,933 --> 00:36:24,293 Speaker 5: And this meant that Paddles Richard Hadley was delighted because 634 00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,653 Speaker 5: he came and when he came into bat with me. 635 00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:32,653 Speaker 5: Chopper had just got out and he said, give me 636 00:36:32,893 --> 00:36:36,893 Speaker 5: plenty of Pygoate. I love facing him. I smash him 637 00:36:37,373 --> 00:36:41,373 Speaker 5: when we play Sussex in England. And that's exactly what 638 00:36:41,493 --> 00:36:47,373 Speaker 5: he did. I dutifully got singles and Pigott Pigot, and 639 00:36:47,453 --> 00:36:49,653 Speaker 5: I at the non strikers in got a crick in 640 00:36:49,733 --> 00:36:52,413 Speaker 5: our neck watching the ball fly back over the bowler's head, 641 00:36:52,853 --> 00:36:56,173 Speaker 5: just little seamers coming back into him, swing bowling coming 642 00:36:56,213 --> 00:36:59,453 Speaker 5: back into him, and paddles just took to him. As 643 00:36:59,493 --> 00:37:01,853 Speaker 5: you say, you got ninety nine. I remember that day, 644 00:37:03,213 --> 00:37:05,693 Speaker 5: which was more than England got in either of their innings, 645 00:37:06,973 --> 00:37:09,853 Speaker 5: wasn't it on that? But that pitch was really quite 646 00:37:09,933 --> 00:37:13,893 Speaker 5: crusty and quite nasty. I remember about the fifty or 647 00:37:14,093 --> 00:37:16,493 Speaker 5: must been the fifteenth ball of the match, something like that. 648 00:37:17,493 --> 00:37:20,053 Speaker 5: One took off from Willis bowling from the porthill ends 649 00:37:20,133 --> 00:37:24,653 Speaker 5: to writing and it just flew as he came forward, 650 00:37:25,213 --> 00:37:29,493 Speaker 5: flew over his head, over Bob Taylor's head bounced twice 651 00:37:29,613 --> 00:37:32,333 Speaker 5: before the boundary. All of us went and got our 652 00:37:32,413 --> 00:37:35,573 Speaker 5: other bats and thought, right, we'll take our really aggressive 653 00:37:35,693 --> 00:37:38,573 Speaker 5: bat out there and score as many as we can 654 00:37:38,733 --> 00:37:41,013 Speaker 5: before a number comes up on it, you know, our 655 00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:45,213 Speaker 5: number comes up and it could have been any ball really, 656 00:37:46,493 --> 00:37:54,533 Speaker 5: but we just bowled really well. They bowled appallingly. We thought, well, 657 00:37:55,733 --> 00:37:58,493 Speaker 5: and you know that was really it. I mean I 658 00:37:58,613 --> 00:38:02,973 Speaker 5: remember Hogan taking a catch off Bosom at batpad Bocky 659 00:38:03,053 --> 00:38:06,613 Speaker 5: getting a wicket very early on. I mean, everything just 660 00:38:06,733 --> 00:38:12,013 Speaker 5: went well. Best catch I took at slip off Lamb 661 00:38:12,733 --> 00:38:16,373 Speaker 5: and you know, as both of them left, actually he 662 00:38:16,453 --> 00:38:19,853 Speaker 5: said to me, I'll see you at Elton John's concert tonight. 663 00:38:20,693 --> 00:38:24,013 Speaker 5: You know, they were really they were gone the English 664 00:38:24,053 --> 00:38:26,253 Speaker 5: at that time. It was called the Six Drugs Rock 665 00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:27,533 Speaker 5: and Roll Tour, wasn't it. 666 00:38:28,093 --> 00:38:28,453 Speaker 4: Where was it? 667 00:38:30,573 --> 00:38:33,653 Speaker 5: No? That was the concert was in christ Church. The 668 00:38:33,733 --> 00:38:38,333 Speaker 5: concert was in christ Church, so yeah, I don't know. 669 00:38:38,453 --> 00:38:43,293 Speaker 5: There was stories of backstage parties and then there were 670 00:38:43,373 --> 00:38:46,253 Speaker 5: rumors of smoking marijuana in the dressing room too. I 671 00:38:46,373 --> 00:38:48,933 Speaker 5: went and I couldn't smell any and I think there 672 00:38:48,973 --> 00:38:52,653 Speaker 5: was a bit of mythology in that. Yeah, but you 673 00:38:52,733 --> 00:38:56,133 Speaker 5: know it was just a cracker of a match, really 674 00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:57,533 Speaker 5: it was. 675 00:38:57,733 --> 00:39:00,733 Speaker 6: But deary, I mean incredible because England, you know, bowled 676 00:39:00,773 --> 00:39:05,053 Speaker 6: out for eighty two and ninety three play New Zealand 677 00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:07,253 Speaker 6: three hundred and seven. And when you look at the 678 00:39:08,373 --> 00:39:10,253 Speaker 6: because you know the run rates weren't as high in 679 00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:13,133 Speaker 6: those days and the pitch was my recollection anyway, and 680 00:39:13,213 --> 00:39:15,493 Speaker 6: I stand to be corrected, was that it was thought 681 00:39:15,573 --> 00:39:18,133 Speaker 6: to be, you know, green and seeming on the first 682 00:39:18,253 --> 00:39:22,853 Speaker 6: day New Zealand better for seventy two overs and scored 683 00:39:22,933 --> 00:39:25,373 Speaker 6: three hundred and seven. And you talked about Bocky picking 684 00:39:25,453 --> 00:39:28,613 Speaker 6: up a wicket early. I remember him. He got Graham Fowler. 685 00:39:29,093 --> 00:39:30,613 Speaker 6: You know, there were only a couple of overs to 686 00:39:30,733 --> 00:39:37,173 Speaker 6: bowl up he boldsday and he bowled Fowler and quickly 687 00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:40,813 Speaker 6: just coming back to neil Meleander as well. No one 688 00:39:41,013 --> 00:39:45,253 Speaker 6: in Otago could understand why they packed Pycot over Melender. 689 00:39:45,813 --> 00:39:49,373 Speaker 6: Melender was quick, but it came from playing for Northens 690 00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:53,453 Speaker 6: in those days in an unfashionable county. He ended up 691 00:39:53,613 --> 00:39:55,733 Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety two playing a couple of Tests for 692 00:39:55,773 --> 00:39:58,413 Speaker 6: England and took ten wickets at twenty one, never to 693 00:39:58,493 --> 00:39:59,173 Speaker 6: be seen again. 694 00:40:00,013 --> 00:40:02,893 Speaker 4: So wonderful memories. And you were probably preparing pitches down 695 00:40:02,933 --> 00:40:07,333 Speaker 4: there Gath for warren Lees and under his instructions was 696 00:40:07,373 --> 00:40:09,973 Speaker 4: he anything to do with them the team? Then? 697 00:40:10,973 --> 00:40:13,493 Speaker 6: Well he was, but I was preparing pitches for the 698 00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:14,813 Speaker 6: club games I was playing and. 699 00:40:17,933 --> 00:40:18,613 Speaker 5: Shirt fronts. 700 00:40:18,853 --> 00:40:22,093 Speaker 6: Yeah, so when we played against against Koker as he 701 00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:25,173 Speaker 6: played for, he would run in and bowl and try 702 00:40:25,213 --> 00:40:27,293 Speaker 6: and bounce me. It would pitch halfway down the pitch 703 00:40:27,373 --> 00:40:29,733 Speaker 6: and come up to about my ankles and he would grin. 704 00:40:30,213 --> 00:40:32,453 Speaker 6: I'd spent eight hours a day on the roll. 705 00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:38,653 Speaker 4: Great memories, the things we did for our own performance 706 00:40:39,173 --> 00:40:41,733 Speaker 4: in club Quicken and then of course you came to 707 00:40:41,813 --> 00:40:44,453 Speaker 4: Wellington and really set us on our backside. Garth. That 708 00:40:44,573 --> 00:40:46,493 Speaker 4: was really good. We do with FA a bit of 709 00:40:46,573 --> 00:40:49,373 Speaker 4: time here. Thanks very much for joining us. This week 710 00:40:50,053 --> 00:40:53,453 Speaker 4: time comes to an end. We'll look at rules. There's 711 00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:57,013 Speaker 4: some big changes I haven't been able to understand myself, 712 00:40:57,093 --> 00:41:00,893 Speaker 4: particularly the one about why they change the ball and 713 00:41:01,093 --> 00:41:04,613 Speaker 4: have only one ball in the last sixteen overs of 714 00:41:04,693 --> 00:41:07,013 Speaker 4: a one day international. We'll have to have a look 715 00:41:07,053 --> 00:41:10,493 Speaker 4: at that and discuss on the future occasion. Thanks for 716 00:41:10,573 --> 00:41:13,693 Speaker 4: doing us, guys, for makes your memories. So we'll talk 717 00:41:13,693 --> 00:41:14,333 Speaker 4: again a. 718 00:41:14,413 --> 00:41:16,693 Speaker 6: Right, I want to see that it is a one guys, 719 00:41:17,213 --> 00:41:24,613 Speaker 6: All the wadysumming. 720 00:41:27,053 --> 00:41:28,453 Speaker 2: For more from News Talk st B. 721 00:41:28,773 --> 00:41:31,973 Speaker 1: Listen live on air or online and keep our shows 722 00:41:32,053 --> 00:41:35,333 Speaker 1: with you Wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio,