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Speaker 3: It is out, The test is over.

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Speaker 3: On the front foot again this week and talking about

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Speaker 3: well let us direct one off with Afghanistan turned into

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Speaker 3: a debacle or is it just bad luck? It appears

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Speaker 3: a fully prepared ground and a trailer to get any

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Speaker 3: played for five days? What is the responsibility? Like Jernka

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Speaker 3: overtake England on the World Pitch Championship leather after an

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Speaker 3: impressions test win at the Oval, the White Burns to

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Speaker 3: the Emirates for the Worldy Coreittee chose a little change

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Speaker 3: from the embarrassing encounter with England. What are their chances

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Speaker 3: and does the World Test Championship lead a complete up people?

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Coney and also Garth Galloway with us on this

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Speaker 3: week's program, Jerry, the Test match in Afghanistan, what a

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Speaker 3: Fesgo that was we know it rains, but I don't

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Speaker 3: know that it was a good time of year to

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Speaker 3: have a test, was it?

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Speaker 6: Well, I told you last week you knows, and Garth,

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Speaker 6: I told you last week.

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Speaker 4: Was there was?

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Speaker 6: It was just after the monsoon, wasn't it? And they

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Speaker 4: And obviously surprised them.

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Speaker 6: But it became the highlight of my day, I've got

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Speaker 6: to say, tuning in to see the latest development and

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Speaker 6: a whole lot of people trying to get a ground

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Speaker 6: epilogue now with Jabbagal Shrewn at the match ref. He'll

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Speaker 6: consign the great annoyder ground I think to corporate days

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Speaker 6: in dog training. I mean, in fact, they're the greater

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Speaker 6: noid lack of authority, aren't they? Really?

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Speaker 4: They were.

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Speaker 6: They were surprised that beneath the grass it was clays

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Speaker 6: enough of them to cover the area. Poor old Ibrahim Zadran.

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Speaker 6: He was injured before the game started. Wasn't he sort

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Speaker 6: some fielding training. Look, they had no equipment to deal

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Speaker 6: with it, did they, And everybody tells you, but everything

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Speaker 6: they left it too late. They got a new groundsman

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Speaker 6: finally to arrive with covers, and they got some supersoppers,

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Speaker 6: didn't they from the local cricket association, But they didn't

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Speaker 4: They did try.

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Speaker 6: I loved the way they got the electric fans from

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Speaker 6: officers around the ground and none of the industrial ones

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Speaker 4: Up, and they did cut out and repair an area.

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Speaker 6: I noticed that what was needed, though, was they had

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Speaker 4: Replace it all.

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Speaker 6: They got a new band of laborism that was good,

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Speaker 6: John Clees could not have done better on one of

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Speaker 4: And the costs. Think of the costs.

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Speaker 6: Thirty forty people are TV, all the travel and accommodation,

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Speaker 3: There's the sermon according to the Reverend Jeremy Coney on cricket.

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Speaker 3: Could you please respond it doesn't rain in Dunedin, where

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Speaker 2: It's hard to it's very hard to respond to that.

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Speaker 2: Deary has completely stolen the show as usual. And I

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Speaker 2: it's been a long winter, hasn't it? Jerry, Oh, there's

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Speaker 4: Of our better shows, one of our better ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Peter Sharp was with us rip Peter. It

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Speaker 7: And I see just reading an article on precond for

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Speaker 2: Steve Dunn was involved in both of those matches the umpire.

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Speaker 7: The commentator in nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 3: Well, you used to grab anybody in those days, you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean the first abandoned one was was eighteen

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Speaker 2: in that series England won the series two. Now that

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Speaker 7: Thirty four first class matches.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what New Zealand used to do when they

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Speaker 3: it pretty well. I mean there have been other games

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether that can be regarded as one

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Speaker 3: good look for cricket to try and feed these Test

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Speaker 3: it's it's not a good look for cricketers who say

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Speaker 7: Couldn't it. It's not a good look.

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Speaker 2: And I think you know, from New Zealand's point of view,

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Speaker 7: Couldn't be worse.

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Speaker 5: Well, personally, I was disappointed. We were very excited to.

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Speaker 9: Play against the scene and and and sort of put

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Speaker 5: The players have worked really hard.

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Speaker 9: We've been here and had warm up games and the

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, the weather's you know, played its.

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Speaker 9: Part, and you know it's made it to feel for

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Speaker 9: So yeah, at the facilities, obviously disappointed that we haven't

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Speaker 9: play some cricket.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 8: It's frustrating for us, I mean, and it was our

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Speaker 3: The match timing and venue should not prevent both sides

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Speaker 8: I'd like that to happen. I don't make the decisions

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Speaker 8: Afghanistan have not just about every top team in the

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Speaker 2: that they lose. It happens in the domestic game a lot,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they're poor at chasing and sides fall

440
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Speaker 2: apart when they're under pressure. And when you look at

441
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Speaker 2: players like like Georgia Plummer who's now played quite a

442
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Speaker 2: lot of international cricket and really just continues to deliver

443
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Speaker 2: poor performances the same around you know, Maddy Green who

444
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Speaker 2: improved recently but seems to have gone back into into

445
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Speaker 2: sort of into mediocrity really. And then you look at

446
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Speaker 2: players like they brought back Casperrick, who I think is

447
00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:07,773
Speaker 2: a really good off spinner from from Wellington, wasn't packed

448
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Speaker 2: in the World Hup squad when they played over here,

449
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Speaker 2: So you know, there's a lot there's a lot of

450
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Speaker 2: experience in some of the older players. But I'm afraid

451
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Speaker 2: they're a very poor side and culturally I question it.

452
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Speaker 2: The younger players continue to get packed they did, they

453
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Speaker 2: don't deliver and I think they need also a lot

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Speaker 2: more from the senior players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the important thing. The likes of Baits,

456
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Speaker 3: Divine et cetera. Have got to deliver more, don't they,

457
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Speaker 3: durm do that are the ones that hold the side together,

458
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Speaker 3: and they've got to be consistently better. They're good players,

459
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Speaker 3: but they're not consistent, are they.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But you can't ask them to keep doing it

461
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Speaker 6: time after time after time after time, and and that's

462
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Speaker 6: the issue really as well. I mean, clearly it's a

463
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Speaker 6: very predictable team. You've said that it underlines the lack

464
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Speaker 6: of choice of replacements for to work quick, so that

465
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Speaker 6: comes back to the ground level of the game. But

466
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Speaker 6: Maddie green Brook, Holiday just kerve, Molly Penn, Hannah Road.

467
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Speaker 6: I mean there are just lots of as Garth has

468
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Speaker 6: just been saying, lots of people who have played a

469
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Speaker 6: lot are not performing now they've got no one to.

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Speaker 4: Replace them with. That's the issue.

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Speaker 6: So they keep getting picked and we all know they've

472
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Speaker 6: got a very slim chance of getting through.

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Speaker 4: They've got Australia and India in their group and.

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Speaker 6: Only two go through from each group and that's and

475
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Speaker 6: so look, we've talked about this ad nauseum, haven't we.

476
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Speaker 6: We've got to start at the lower level and work

477
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Speaker 6: our way up again until more people are coming through

478
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Speaker 6: from the from the first class and from club level

479
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Speaker 6: and so on.

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Speaker 4: It's very simple.

481
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Speaker 3: Well, let's hope they've got that under nineteen side prepared.

482
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to come through in a

483
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Speaker 3: hurry as under nineteen players, but they're getting the opportunities

484
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Speaker 3: and that is going to be important for the women's

485
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Speaker 3: game over the next few years.

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Speaker 1: Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.

487
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Speaker 3: If you want to have a view of anything on

488
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Speaker 3: the program, on the front foot send us an email

489
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Speaker 3: on the front Foot twenty at gmail dot com. That's

490
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Speaker 3: exactly what Christian did, and I'm not sure where Christian's from,

491
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Speaker 3: but it was an interesting one because it poses a

492
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Speaker 3: few points that we've been talking about the World Test

493
00:26:43,013 --> 00:26:46,933
Speaker 3: Championship and he suggests that he would like to see

494
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Speaker 3: the Test Championship and the style similar to the America's Cup.

495
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Speaker 3: The idea would be that the holder of the trophy

496
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Speaker 3: defend it against the challenger, and Test cricket over three

497
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Speaker 3: years is used to find that challenger. Under the model,

498
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Speaker 3: result against the champion wouldn't count towards the table during

499
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Speaker 3: that three year period, allowing the remaining six sides to

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Speaker 3: play home or away over the three years. I'm not

501
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Speaker 3: sure I totally agree with the holder being given a

502
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Speaker 3: free pass through. I'd like to see them all play,

503
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Speaker 3: but you know, let's have a look at the idea

504
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Speaker 3: of the World Test Championship. What do you think, Gath,

505
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Speaker 3: what did you think of Christian's idea?

506
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Speaker 7: Interesting?

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Speaker 2: I suppose like you, what's the first thing that occurs

508
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Speaker 2: to me is the free pass for the holder over

509
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Speaker 2: a period of time. I think that makes it less interesting, really,

510
00:27:37,453 --> 00:27:41,853
Speaker 2: and you know science will change and fluctuate, so you

511
00:27:41,893 --> 00:27:44,813
Speaker 2: know that that three year pass that they get seems

512
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Speaker 2: to me to be pretty unattractive. But I like the

513
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Speaker 2: I like the way that Christian's thinking about it and

514
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Speaker 2: proposing new things. What I struggle with is, you know,

515
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Speaker 2: the World Test Championship seems like a real curiosity when

516
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Speaker 2: you look at the table and you think it's all

517
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Speaker 2: about win percentages. England have played sixteen games in it,

518
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Speaker 2: New Zealand have played six, as a Bangladesh Africa. You know,

519
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Speaker 2: it's a bizarre competition where there are uneven numbers of matches,

520
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Speaker 2: there seems to be a lot of inconsistency around who

521
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Speaker 2: the opposition is and it's all done on a win ratio,

522
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Speaker 2: so it doesn't feel it's a bit like trying to

523
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Speaker 2: follow the you know, the NPC and rugby and work

524
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Speaker 2: out who's you know, who's on top and way.

525
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Speaker 7: It doesn't feel like the right format for me at

526
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Speaker 7: the moment.

527
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, there are a couple of major points. I

528
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Speaker 6: think the America's Cup thing three years to find a challenger.

529
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Speaker 6: To me, I just think the holder plays those games

530
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Speaker 6: matches as far as the points are concerned, don't count.

531
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Speaker 4: I don't like that part.

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Speaker 6: You know, that means you played basically Christian seems to

533
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Speaker 6: have what how many sides?

534
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Speaker 5: Seven?

535
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Speaker 4: He's got six teams.

536
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Speaker 6: So he's actually for a start throwing out Bangladesh who

537
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Speaker 6: are currently fourced and he he's also throwing out Pakistan,

538
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Speaker 6: quite a senior side not playing very well at the moment.

539
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure, but so he would have in his case,

540
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Speaker 6: the winner of last year going through and playing basically

541
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Speaker 6: twelve series.

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Speaker 4: You know, So.

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Speaker 6: He's got a seventeen competition, hasn't he? Currently we've got

544
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Speaker 6: nine in their iteration at the moment. So his seven

545
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Speaker 6: series you play, you know, base six other sides you've

546
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Speaker 6: played twelve tests as a minimum, two test series that

547
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Speaker 6: don't matter at all towards the final. I don't think

548
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Speaker 6: we can do that. We're already complaining about teams not

549
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Speaker 6: playing enough against each other and quite often, you know,

550
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Speaker 6: we've got sides. If it was the current one, you'd

551
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Speaker 6: have eight series that didn't count because of the winner

552
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Speaker 6: and you're playing against them. And if you actually, I

553
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Speaker 6: think of New Zealand beat the current holder, you know,

554
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Speaker 6: which is Australia, isn't it that would matter quite a lot, frankly,

555
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Speaker 6: and we'll claim those points, you know, most of all

556
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Speaker 6: by beating the top dog. I don't know. I just

557
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Speaker 6: think six and the T six in a series, as

558
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Speaker 6: he says, that's fourteen percent of the tests that don't

559
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Speaker 6: matter because of the winner not counting their games at all.

560
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Speaker 6: And if it's nine, as we've got at the moment,

561
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Speaker 6: that's eleven percent of the tests mean absolutely nothing. And

562
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Speaker 6: it's a big chunk of tests to be meaningless, isn't it.

563
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Speaker 6: Teams already they could play anybody really in those games,

564
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Speaker 6: couldn't they. They bring in all the new boys to

565
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Speaker 6: play against the top team. It sort of undermines the

566
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Speaker 6: games a wee bit. And we're already complaining about, you know,

567
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Speaker 6: how long tests take. I mean, I don't know about you.

568
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Speaker 6: All sides playing each other is quite a nice concept

569
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Speaker 6: from Christian I think. But I'm going to ask you guys,

570
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Speaker 6: do you it's three years too long to sustain interest

571
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Speaker 6: at a time when people are complaining about the ODI

572
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Speaker 6: and the T twenty World Cup being too long.

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Speaker 3: The amount of time they commit to test matches. Probably

574
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Speaker 3: you need three years because you don't get enough chance.

575
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Speaker 4: But who's going to follow. People still going to talk

576
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Speaker 4: what about it?

577
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Speaker 6: In some countries, what about all the fans if you

578
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Speaker 6: only have six teams or seven sides, sorry, if you

579
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Speaker 6: only have seventeens, what about all the fans that are missing?

580
00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:52,853
Speaker 6: All their fans are out of the Test competition.

581
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Speaker 7: Is not an issue, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think that that people are starting to look at

583
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Speaker 2: the format of it because and how it could change.

584
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Speaker 2: Because when you look at what's happening in this twenty

585
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Speaker 2: three to twenty five World Test Championship, India are going

586
00:32:06,813 --> 00:32:10,333
Speaker 2: to play nineteen games in it, England are playing twenty two,

587
00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:14,933
Speaker 2: Bangladesh played ten, Sri Lanka play eleven, New Zealand play fourteen.

588
00:32:14,973 --> 00:32:19,453
Speaker 2: I mean, it is just bizarre. Australia play seventeen, so

589
00:32:19,453 --> 00:32:24,053
Speaker 2: they're all inconsistent. Bangladesh, you know, in their ten matches,

590
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Speaker 2: they don't get to play against Australia, they don't play

591
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Speaker 2: against England, and they don't play against Pakistan. And you

592
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Speaker 2: just think, you know, it doesn't feel like a World

593
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Speaker 2: Test Championship.

594
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Speaker 7: It's just a shamozzle.

595
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Speaker 6: It's not a World Test Championship. We've known that as

596
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Speaker 6: soon as you say all sides don't play each other,

597
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Speaker 6: it's not a league. And that means that some sides,

598
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Speaker 6: as New Zealand did when they won it, enjoy easier

599
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Speaker 6: draws than other people. And that's what I think you're

600
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Speaker 6: saying there, Gath. They try and bring in this percentage

601
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Speaker 6: thing to cover the different number of games that teams play,

602
00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:10,253
Speaker 6: but that doesn't address the unicola about the more you play,

603
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:15,253
Speaker 6: the better you get at that format. So that's not

604
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Speaker 6: fair really either. But the issue then becomes if every

605
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Speaker 6: side plays each other, which we'd all I think agree

606
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Speaker 6: a I've got to ask you, do you need a

607
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Speaker 6: final or do we just take the guy in charge

608
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Speaker 6: who's right at the top, and that's a league and

609
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Speaker 6: you don't have a final, it's just whoever's at the top.

610
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Speaker 6: You've played everybody, the winner's the guy at the top

611
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Speaker 6: at the end of it. Or do you play for

612
00:33:41,253 --> 00:33:45,733
Speaker 6: longer your sudden your cycle of playing moves out from

613
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Speaker 6: two years to three years at least, And therein lies

614
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Speaker 6: I think a problem. And if you shorten it, which

615
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Speaker 6: is what Christian is saying, instead of having nine teams

616
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Speaker 6: in it, and let's have only seven, then is it

617
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Speaker 6: a World Test Championship? So it doesn't feel like it,

618
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Speaker 6: and I would personally. I mean, at the moment he's

619
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Speaker 6: suggesting that one team. I like the promotion relegation aspect

620
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Speaker 6: he was suggesting. I think that's a good idea. But

621
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Speaker 6: at the moment, only three sides are out of this

622
00:34:22,373 --> 00:34:28,493
Speaker 6: competition Zimbabwe, Ireland, Afghanistan, and presumably they would be playing

623
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Speaker 6: each other and they would have been joined by to

624
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Speaker 6: others in his case, Bangladesh and Pakistan, so you'd have

625
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Speaker 6: another little competition going on to see who's going to

626
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Speaker 6: be at the top of that. The problem is about

627
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Speaker 6: those lower sides. They haven't got the cash, nor have

628
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Speaker 6: we really and that's why we're getting different numbers of games.

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Speaker 6: Only the wealthy ones can afford to have people for

630
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Speaker 6: that length of time in their country. Those lower teams

631
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Speaker 6: can't afford to hold test series at home.

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Speaker 4: It's better that they travel away.

633
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's one of those situations that there's a lot

634
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Speaker 3: of comment about what should be done, and I think

635
00:35:11,893 --> 00:35:14,653
Speaker 3: it's fair that what exists at the moment is not

636
00:35:14,853 --> 00:35:18,733
Speaker 3: the ultimate but the ICC. All they seem to worry

637
00:35:18,773 --> 00:35:21,613
Speaker 3: about is making sure they've got a final at some venue.

638
00:35:21,813 --> 00:35:25,213
Speaker 3: It happens to be lord's big crowd, big television, the audience,

639
00:35:25,253 --> 00:35:28,293
Speaker 3: big money that comes in without really thinking about what

640
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Speaker 3: the competition is offering to those fans who go along

641
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Speaker 3: and pay the money.

642
00:35:32,893 --> 00:35:36,933
Speaker 6: Well, part of the problem is that the ICC are

643
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:40,333
Speaker 6: part of the problem. They have World Cups every year.

644
00:35:41,253 --> 00:35:46,813
Speaker 6: Now every year they are taking an already hugely busy

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Speaker 6: schedule and making it worse.

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Speaker 3: Yep, and that's the way the ICC thinks, I guess

647
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Speaker 3: coming out of India. The new chairman is another Indian

648
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Speaker 3: added to the leadership of the group. So it'll take

649
00:36:02,133 --> 00:36:07,453
Speaker 3: some time to get the ultimates outcome for the Test

650
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Speaker 3: Match Championship, but we'll just have to wait and see.

651
00:36:10,693 --> 00:36:13,453
Speaker 3: Chris down Thank you very much for your email and

652
00:36:13,573 --> 00:36:15,373
Speaker 3: if you good one like to comment or have an

653
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Speaker 3: idea to offer, then do so on the front foot

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Speaker 3: twenty to zero at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 7: Nothing to add, No, No, that's been a good discussion.

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Speaker 2: I just look at it, you know, this table that

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Speaker 2: I've been looking at, and the competition's just bizarre, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, as far as New Zealand to concern wads, if

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Speaker 6: they are going to make this you know final, I'm

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Speaker 6: afraid it doesn't look great, does it?

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Speaker 4: No, they really need to win.

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Speaker 6: They've got I don't know how many points, I can't remember,

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Speaker 6: but they need five wins. I sort of sat down

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Speaker 6: and tried to work it out five wins and two

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Speaker 6: draws or six wins from the remaining.

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Speaker 4: Eight games.

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Speaker 6: So realistically, in you'd need to get two draws okay,

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Speaker 6: and a loss. Maybe that's the best they could hope

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Speaker 6: for out there, there's their two draws. Sri Lanka you'd

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Speaker 6: have to have two wins. That's going to be very difficult.

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Speaker 6: And England you're going to have to have three wins,

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Speaker 6: very difficult. So you know, if they get through that,

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Speaker 6: that's a fantastic performance.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, Yes, well, things to ponder for the New Ziaders.

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Speaker 3: They're fifty percent at the moment in third place, but

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Speaker 3: it's going to be hard to stay there. That brings

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Speaker 3: to an end another edition on the front foot. I'm

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Speaker 3: just going to go away, Gath and try and ponder

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Speaker 3: whether I can get a five day washout test to

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Speaker 3: keep Jerry interested during the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, something to do.

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 4: Like watching a series.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling it's great, day after day week after we're watching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was so sad for SkyTV, not

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Speaker 3: even their equipment work that went on still pictures and

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Speaker 3: they had to drop out. Sorry for this interruption. We're

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Speaker 3: trying to get the connection back again and so the

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Speaker 3: rain had obviously got into their stuff. Never mind, Hopefully

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Speaker 3: when it comes to Sri Lanka, we will have fine

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Speaker 3: weather and it'll be able to get those two test

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Speaker 3: matches in the World Test Championship. Thanks for your time,

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Speaker 3: gasping forward to joining us again and you two as ever, Jerry,

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Speaker 3: thank you for putting time together to watch some of

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Speaker 3: those with weather goes.

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Speaker 10: Good to see you guys, wonderful summer.

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