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Speaker 1: Afternoon. The government's hoping to speed up building work by

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Speaker 1: giving builders, plumbers and drain layers the power to inspect

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Speaker 1: their own work. It will also introduce mandatory targets for

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Speaker 1: inspection wait times by the end of the year. Chris

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Speaker 1: Pink is the Building in Construction Minister and is with

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Speaker 1: us now, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Chris, Hello, good afternoon to So who's.

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Speaker 1: Going to be able to self certify?

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Speaker 2: Well, in the case of plumbers and drain layers, it'll

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Speaker 2: be experience qualified registered personnel who are able to tick

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Speaker 2: all the boxes that are already met by electricians and

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Speaker 2: others who are already self certify. And actually they in

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Speaker 2: some cases are already able to do their own work

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Speaker 2: in relation to drain excuse me, gas fitting work. So

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Speaker 2: just really creating a level playing field there. And then

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Speaker 2: in terms of building companies, we haven't named the companies yet.

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Speaker 2: They've got to meet the criteria that we're going to

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Speaker 2: set out. But think those that are building at scale, reputable,

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Speaker 2: good track record, good and solvency or solvency position rather

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Speaker 2: so they can be trusted to sign off their own work.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is, though sometimes you can't see

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Speaker 1: the mistakes that you make right, isn't there value in

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Speaker 1: having a set as a second set of eyes on it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, having a good quality assurance process that they

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Speaker 2: would undertake is part of it. And there will be

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Speaker 2: standards obviously that they've got to continue to meet. And

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Speaker 2: you know, they've got to have the right sort of

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Speaker 2: assurances and insurance in place as well, so they've got

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Speaker 2: every incentive to get it right. And you know, between

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Speaker 2: that and ordering kind of arrangements to make sure that

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Speaker 2: they remain on the straight and arrow, we're really confident

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Speaker 2: will add up to actually at least as good quality

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Speaker 2: as we've got at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Now, the mandatory targets for inspection, right, you want eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of the inspections to be done within three working days.

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Speaker 1: How close is that to what is happening at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, it depends actually counsel by counsel, which is another

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Speaker 2: story for another day in terms of those being quite variable.

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Speaker 2: But in some cases, actually we're okay. In other cases

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Speaker 2: they will find it challenging and those are the ones

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Speaker 2: that need to spend more time and efforts taking a

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Speaker 2: risk proportioned approach, which means using remote inspection kind of

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Speaker 2: technology and so on. But actually we're really hopeful that

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Speaker 2: it will be easy enough to meet for those councils

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Speaker 2: that are well organized and doing their work, partly because

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Speaker 2: one in every three inspections at the moment is in

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Speaker 2: relation to plumbing work, which, as we've just been discussing,

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Speaker 2: we won't require old mate from the council to turn

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Speaker 2: up with a clipboard to look at as well.

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Speaker 1: Chris, thanks very much, appreciate it, Chris, Building and Construction Minister.

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