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Speaker 1: I'll get to New Zealand and welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Mad Monday Podcast, brought to you, as always by the

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Speaker 1: four and twenty PI. The perfect at home snack for

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Speaker 1: watching rugby league, or the perfect snack at the ground

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Speaker 1: to have whipped off the back of your head by

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Speaker 1: a half US sporting commentator. My name is ten of

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Speaker 1: us saw A Monday Awi. I'm joined by Toy Hurley

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. Get a ben here? You getting on? Mate?

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Speaker 2: Can it be over the yet? Is it over? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I just want I just want it to end. I

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Speaker 3: just want we just need to take this season out

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Speaker 3: the back and put a bullet in its head.

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Speaker 1: Chuck it in a sack with a couple of bricks

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Speaker 1: and toss it off the nearest bridge you reckon.

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Speaker 3: It's no, I'm going to distance myself from that one.

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Speaker 3: I think it needs to be humanely dealt with. But definitely,

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Speaker 3: definitely it's it's it's a long and slow death as

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four NRL seasons for the Mighty Warriors.

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like that game, Sewan Johnson's Last

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Speaker 1: at Home, it sort of went about it was like

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Speaker 1: almost a beautiful summary of the season. It was a

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Speaker 1: lot of emotion. There was a lot of build up

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Speaker 1: to that game, all the vision of Sean Johnson before

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Speaker 1: the game. You know, her tears in his eyes when

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Speaker 1: he's running out onto the field as he should, and

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Speaker 1: emotion is just a little bit too hot. And I

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Speaker 1: think that, like you saw that clearly when he knocked

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Speaker 1: the ball on with his first touch, was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: now you've just spelled the the jitters. But the game

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Speaker 1: just went exactly how every Warriors game has so far

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Speaker 1: this season. You know, there's like twenty thirty minutes of

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Speaker 1: us being like, shit, we're on here. Then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, it just gets taken away from us, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, then there's then there's always generally one moment

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Speaker 3: in the game, one key moment, And I think that

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Speaker 3: was probably the highest shots on Roger tu vasa sheek

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Speaker 3: that Stephen Crichton just for some reason did not go

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Speaker 3: to the bin for it was eighteen sixteen at that point.

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Speaker 3: You know, a ten minute power play thirteen on twelve

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Speaker 3: would have been fantastic at that point.

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Speaker 1: There needs to be some sort of I mean, there

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Speaker 1: needs to be an investigation obviously, first off, but also

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Speaker 1: there's gotta be like if a player, I know you

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Speaker 1: can't judge on the outcome of a tackle, but if

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Speaker 1: a player has to go for an HIA, there's no

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Speaker 1: way that another player doesn't go to the band. You

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Speaker 1: don't get hiad unless someone's hit you in the head.

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Speaker 1: And then we saw it later on in the game,

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Speaker 1: Mitch Barnet got head in the head so hard I

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Speaker 1: think it was Preston that it split his eyebrow and

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Speaker 1: he just stood there, looked at the riff and he's

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Speaker 1: just like blood passing out over his eyes. He's like,

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Speaker 1: he is sious, How could that be nothing? I saw?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not only was it high, but it was a

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Speaker 3: shoulder charge as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like point to the shoulder to the cheek,

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Speaker 1: slash eye socket. Andrew Jennings is in the Mad Monday

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Speaker 1: Mondays group on Facebook. He reckons he's got a solution

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Speaker 1: to the inconsistencies coming from the bugger. He said, why

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Speaker 1: can't the same person do all the games in a round.

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Speaker 1: If I can manage to watch them all and I'm

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Speaker 1: not even getting paid to do it, why wouldn't this work?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're potentially paying for it with your marriage.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm also a massive fan. And

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Speaker 3: this goes for the other rugby code as well. There

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Speaker 3: should be a five minute send off. There should be

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Speaker 3: a five minute bin for what is deemed accidental contact

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Speaker 3: with their head. If we're going to be serious about

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Speaker 3: head contact, then that's fine. They're five minutes. If it

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Speaker 3: looks like there's intent, that's ten, or carelessness that's ten.

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Speaker 3: And if it looks like it's just out and out

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Speaker 3: dangerous play, then obviously you're off. I think there should

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point because we've changed how we're

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Speaker 1: efficiating it, but we haven't changed the punishments that are

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Speaker 1: available to the referee. I've always said in rugby union,

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Speaker 1: at least, I've been a big proponent of what I

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Speaker 1: call the Donald Duck cart, which is for incidental contact

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Speaker 1: with the head, so you know you didn't mean to

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Speaker 1: do it, you should be allowed to play on, but

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Speaker 1: you have to remove your pants. So it's like there's

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Speaker 1: you know, the fans don't get punished. The game plays on.

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Speaker 1: You still have the same guy, but he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a bit apprehensive hidden the ruck and that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff because he's got to tackle out. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: there has to be some sort of other thing at

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Speaker 1: the reff's discretion, doesn't it. You can't just be ten

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Speaker 3: I mean I guess what I would say, just to

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Speaker 3: play devil's advocate. At least in rugby league, you know,

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Speaker 3: the it isn't a hard and fast role contact with

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Speaker 3: their head just being sent off like it is in

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Speaker 3: rugby union. And and the ref did say in that

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Speaker 3: circumstances said there are mitigating circumstances, which there wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think no.

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Speaker 3: But still at least he's trying to judge it tackle

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Speaker 3: by tackle, whereas in rugby union there were there were

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Speaker 3: permas players that were just leading with their head into

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Speaker 3: tackles like just like a rhino. And then and then

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Speaker 3: they all blacks your penalized for contact with their head.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, so at least there is still some

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Speaker 3: judgment in rugby league. Yeah, yeah, we'd love to see

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Speaker 1: I know, you're right, Like a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 1: when Ethan Blackett I got bumped off and got binn

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Speaker 1: for his if it's as well because they lived with

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Speaker 1: their heads. It's like, what are you supposed to do

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Speaker 1: about that? Despite and I feel like poor Weby was

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Speaker 1: so passed off from the postmatch press conference talking about

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Speaker 1: the inconsistencies and that despite all of that, we were

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Speaker 1: lucky enough to commentate from the ground and being there

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Speaker 1: for that game was fucking awesome. Like, you know, they've

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Speaker 1: all been sellouts this year, but a lot of them

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Speaker 1: are like, you know, they've sold out all the tickets.

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Speaker 1: Some people on the night decide not to turn up,

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Speaker 1: or people show up late. This was packed out basically

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Speaker 1: The people were filing in and it was that environment

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Speaker 1: there was The atmosphere was wild. The South stand was

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Speaker 1: fucking heaving. They're packed in like sardine's there. And then

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Speaker 1: forced fun with like a standing ovation for Seawn Johnson

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Speaker 1: because he wears the number seven. But yeah, I don't know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it didn't really work because a lot of people they

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Speaker 1: what what are we doing? Standing ovation? Okay, but for

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Speaker 1: how long? And then it's in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: The only other thing I note from the game for

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Speaker 1: Lily World after the game, and oh yeah, it was loose.

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Speaker 1: It was going off, there was a DJ going, everyone

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Speaker 1: was maggot that was in there responsible and they got

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Speaker 1: the big screen playing the games. It's the best ticket

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Speaker 1: in town. Still. People were asking me like, do you

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Speaker 1: reckon Everyone's going to stop going to the games next year,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think they will because it's still the

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Speaker 1: best sporting event you can go to in New Zealand

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Speaker 1: because you go there, go to the game, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have yourself for four and twenty PI, have a

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Speaker 1: couple of Export Ultras and then watch the game after

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Speaker 1: it's going to Lily World, wait for the traffic to

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Speaker 1: die down. It's just it's just a good time, you know.

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Speaker 2: Is it still going to be that Warriors bar in Kingsland?

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Speaker 2: Is that still happening?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It is. Which I was talking to a couple

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Speaker 1: of people about it the game and they're like, do

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Speaker 1: you know how hard it is to get from Kingsland

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Speaker 1: to Mount Smart, Like there's no direct train, you have

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Speaker 1: and change two different trains which were out of town.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I live in Auckland. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: people who aren't going to the game? Is what it is?

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably both right.

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Speaker 3: I think they do need a place for the team to,

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Speaker 3: you know, descend on the adoring crowd at about eleven pm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, after a win, and that's probably going to be it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose take a couple of trains where you

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Speaker 1: half cut. You're right, though, I think that there's been

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Speaker 1: like a since we were mathematically eliminated. Then, you know,

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Speaker 1: we had a bit of artificial inflation because we were

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Speaker 1: so hyped up for Sean Johnson's last game. But now, like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: are we playing the Sharks this week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We started with the Sharks or ending with the Sharks.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't entirely certain that that's who we're playing this

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Speaker 1: weekend because I think like a lot of people were

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Speaker 1: all just sort of focused on next year. Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's talk a little bit, a little bit

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Speaker 3: about next year. We haven't made a lot of signings

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Speaker 3: I would say, obviously we're losing SJ. But I feel

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Speaker 3: like we have quite a lot of backup in that role,

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Speaker 3: in the halves role. We do get Jet Cleary as

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Speaker 3: well next year, who.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he'll roll straight into the first grade

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Speaker 3: side because he is, you know, fourteen years old or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we have we have covered there.

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Speaker 3: You know, arguably Tomato Martin was better in that jersey

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Speaker 3: than SJ was this year, certainly had more success on

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Speaker 3: the you know, just out of pure numbers. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: where do you think we need to make some signings.

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Speaker 2: In the off season?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. Who kicks goals for us next

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Speaker 1: year is my biggest problem. So Sean will be gone.

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Speaker 1: I don't think c HT will be if you certainly

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Speaker 1: won't be starting. So I know, I actually think that

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Speaker 1: Adam Pompey it gets it. You know, it's a big

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Speaker 1: tick in his favor. But then you're paying Roger to

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Speaker 1: have us a sheck, however much you're paying him. Rock

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Speaker 1: o'berry will be back next year. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: like we're losing AFB, but we gain James Fisher Harris,

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Speaker 1: we lose Jazz Tavanger, But they've just announced Aaron Clark,

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Speaker 1: who's I don't know much for muchness And if anything,

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Speaker 1: Kieren Ford's three hundredth game was on the weekend and

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Speaker 1: guess who was leading the Hocker for that. It was

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Speaker 1: Aaron Clark. So I feel like we've got a bit

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Speaker 1: of an influx of money coming our way next year.

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Speaker 1: I really, I really don't think we're losing that much,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If Shawn Johnson left at

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Speaker 1: the end of last year, I'd have been like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: that's huge. We just lost the Delian player of the

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Speaker 1: year by rights, But that time around on I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think health is going to be the biggest issue.

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Speaker 1: We've got enough players. I mean, Jackson Ford hasn't ever

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Speaker 1: been playing for the last month.

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Speaker 2: You know, well that was that was actually going to

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Speaker 2: be the position.

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Speaker 3: I thought we could do what we could do with

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Speaker 3: another really solid back rower.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we Yeah, what kind of feels like because we got.

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Speaker 3: Forward up front, right, we're good upfront, which with Mitch

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Speaker 3: Barnett and James Fisher Harris, that's a pretty good front

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Speaker 1: Commentary collective team for a massive Rugby League weekend in

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Speaker 1: And they've got so many like unique Australian animals that

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Speaker 3: this weekend, and it's basically for the top eight spot.

435
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Speaker 3: I think, assuming the Dragons lose.

436
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Speaker 2: Does that sound right?

437
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: The Dragons, Yeah, well, they play the Eels, so they're

438
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: probably not going to lose. Dolphins Broncos. Then the Broncos

439
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 1: play the Storm and then it's Spoon Bowl West Tigers

440
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: versus the Eels of it, Broncos Storm and no, no, no,

441
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Speaker 1: And that's in the last week. I remember that there's

442
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Speaker 1: actually two more games left to go. But the Warriors

443
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: have the bar and actually mercifully they have the buy

444
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the round. Now where we were thinking,

445
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 1: oh at the start of the season, we're like, this

446
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: is perfect. We're going to come into that eight rowing

447
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: ready to go, and now we're just like, oh, thank

448
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: god it's over. Do you think that the Panthers should

449
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: be worried by this result?

450
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

451
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean Nathan Cleary didn't play. Are they that reliant

452
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: on him?

453
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's been out for most of the season,

454
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 1: but when he came back, it was just like, oh,

455
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: that's right. He is immortal quality rugby league player. And

456
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: it was I believe that it was Lei who threw

457
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: that and to see it pass as well, so you

458
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: could you could arguably say he lost them the game

459
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: if you didn't like Luis for whatever is.

460
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Speaker 2: But I wonder who you're talking about. I think I

461
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: think we're in agreement.

462
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Speaker 1: On that one. Yeah. Look, I do think that that

463
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: quite reliant on him, But I also don't think like

464
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: they without him are still an excellent, excellent team. It

465
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: is going to depend on when he can come back

466
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: from his injury. And I know that Cleary was getting

467
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: stuck into them about look, we're just not playing good

468
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: enough football. But yeah, I don't know.

469
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 3: So this is the question that we unfortunately have to

470
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: ask some seasons, Mania, and that is what team are

471
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: you following through the finals?

472
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: Yeah? I've picked these guys from a while ago, and

473
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually quite glad that we've passed the torch to them.

474
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: But it is the Canterbury Banks Down Bulldogs. I was

475
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 1: gutted that it was them that we had to play

476
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: in Shawan Johnson's last game, because you know, I was

477
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,479
Speaker 1: saying last week. They allow like their defense has been

478
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: stingy all season. They allow the fewest amount of tries

479
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: per game, and in the last sort of six weeks

480
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: they've also started piling tries on from everywhere. They've been

481
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: having a crack from all areas of the field. The

482
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: most fun team to watch, and it's good because I

483
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: can't get behind them Storm or the Roosters or any

484
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: of those massive clubs. So yeah, for me, it's the

485
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: cannibary back Sound Bulldogs. Also, they seem to be having

486
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: a moment. Have you seen like the carnage that's going

487
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: on outside their home games. Vans are getting flipped and

488
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: shit's getting lit on fire and it's like full, full

489
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: scale riots every game now, So that's gonna be awesome.

490
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it's been it's been a tough few years

491
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: for the Bulldogs and obviously they had basically a they

492
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 3: basically gutted the entire organization from the from the bottom up.

493
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: And you know the fact that it's paying dividends now

494
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 3: is is nice to see. Although as you as you

495
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: say it sounds like Bulldogs fans will always be Bulldogs

496
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: fans and they will always be the most fairal I mean,

497
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: arguably rival by paramountter fans, but those two, those two

498
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: ball clubs definitely have the most rabid fans. Yeah, I

499
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: will be following. I don't think they're going to win,

500
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: but I'd love to see them do well. I'll be

501
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: following my Cowboys through the finals. I think they are

502
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: star studded across the park. Everyone kind of loves the

503
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: Cowboys a little bit. And I think Tom Didan's the

504
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: least number six in the competition.

505
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: There, I said it.

506
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: I am not far off agreeing with you there. I

507
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: think he has been absolutely outstanding. I've been flirting with

508
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: getting him into my super coach team this entire season.

509
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: He's great in origin. You're right, I think what he

510
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: suffers from is a nothing haircut. If he had some

511
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: sort of you know, Mullard even or some sort of

512
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: fade or something like that. But he's just got that

513
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: real middle of the road white guy haircut. That's doing

514
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: him no favors. He's no one's favorite player aside from

515
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: yours perhaps, But and I think and I think that's

516
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: what he's suffering from, is like no distinguishing physical features.

517
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: He's not big, He's quick enough, but that's not the

518
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: hallmark of his game.

519
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: No.

520
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: Look, the mums love him, and I don't mean they're

521
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: sexual way like something for the mums. They love them

522
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: because they remind every mum of their son.

523
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

524
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got he's got a haircut that looks

525
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: like it was done by his mum.

526
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: It does too. So yeah, that's the Raiders twenty two

527
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: to a against the Panthers. I'm not going to read

528
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: too far into that. I think the Panthers come finals time,

529
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: the two experience, they'll be in that final. But it

530
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: may show just a little bit of weakness. If you're

531
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: one of those other teams at the top, you're licking

532
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: your lips, aren't you.

533
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: So look, just to go back to this weekend's game

535
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: against the Cronola Sharks, what I would say is all

536
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: the bottom teams have had some upsets in the last

537
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: few weeks. So the Tigers two games in a row. Yeah, one,

538
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: I mean, anyone for them is an upset, to be honest, Yes,

539
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: what's it?

540
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: And upsetting?

541
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course. I think the Eels turned over

542
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: someone recently.

543
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yes, that's right with us. The Rabbit has

544
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: had a little run a few weeks back.

545
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: It would be great just to be one of those

546
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: teams that upset one of the favorites for the competition.

547
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: I don't see it necessarily happening, but yeah, I mean,

548
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: how many we lots on the road on the truck

549
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: down the four.

550
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm just scrolling back through them. Doggies got us.

551
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 1: Then the Eagles absolutely hammered us. The Dolphins beat us

552
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: with that drop goal, and then yeah the Eels, yeah four,

553
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: and then we beat the Tigers.

554
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right.

555
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we're gonna well, look, the Warriors always

556
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: win games that they shouldn't say. This one against the

557
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Sharks could be a real binand appeal for the Sharks. Anyway,

558
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and when we come back,

559
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: we're going to go reverse Hurley. Here, I've got a

560
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: reverse Hurley's Heroes. We're going to go a little bit

561
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: different this week. Curly. We're going to go We're going

562
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: to go reverse Hurley, which I understand is something you

563
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: haven't done since your UNI days. We are going to

564
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: go a top ten. How many of the top ten

565
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: most games for the Warriors can you name? So, out

566
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: of the top ten games played for the Warriors, how

567
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: many can you name?

568
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: Well? I imagined this as a tribute to Sewan Johnson.

569
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, so he's one, Yes, he has one.

570
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: He's one.

571
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 3: Now last week's Hurley, well, last time I did Hearly's Heroes.

572
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: The most kept Warrior, Simon man Ring.

573
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: That's two three hundred and one games for Simon Mannoring,

574
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: two twenty for Shawn Johnson.

575
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm going to say Manuva.

576
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Manuvatuve is third with two hundred and twenty six.

577
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. I didn't realize he's doing them in order.

578
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: Now they won't be an order.

579
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Probably Stacy Joes, Yes, Stacy Jones. Stacy Jones. It's four.

580
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: That is the top That is the top four.

581
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Even now I'm starting there.

582
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Owen Goot and Beer I think was the one club

583
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: player I imagined he he's probably in there.

584
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: There's ninth.

585
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: These ninth. Okay, that's that's fine with them, though Michael Luck.

586
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: Michael Luck is not in there.

587
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: No, it was a good run. Okay, what else? Said

588
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: Lanto higher La who high is a okay? Good? Who else?

589
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: Steve Price?

590
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: Steve Price is not in the top ten most games

591
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: played for the Warriors. Unfortunately he came came from the Bulldogs,

592
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: didn't he in the Bulldogs? And then.

593
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: Uh one one Warriors? You know one club players, Logan.

594
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Swan, Logan Swan is in at number six.

595
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so I've missed too. I think I've got one

596
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: more guess, have I?

597
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, one more guess, one more guess?

598
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: Uh, it's probably someone like Ben Muslin.

599
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: That's Ben Muzzlin or yeah, that's right, he's first. He

600
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: played two hundred and twelve games for the club. And

601
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: the one that you missed was Sam Rapeta who played

602
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: one really yeah in the changing room in the changing

603
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: rooms for Seawn Johnson's last game as well. So yeah,

604
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: your top ten. So I'm mannoring Stacy Jones, Many Buttu Fly,

605
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: Shawn Johnson, Ben Muzzolino, Logan Swan, Jacob Lillyman, Lance will Hire, Owen, Gutenbill,

606
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: Sam raupeter I don't think you've got Lilyman, did you.

607
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: No, I didn't get Lilliman either. It's a surprise. He

608
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: was a he's a Queen Cider, wasn't he played played Origin?

609
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. So yeah, that is your top ten

610
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: most played games for the Warriors. You did well in

611
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: the top five and then after that.

612
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: I think it's not a part of it. I'm all right,

613
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: seven out of ten is not bad. I'll take that.

614
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: Seven out of ten is tremendous. All right. Hopefully you're

615
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: done screaming at your device after all of the ones

616
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: have been missed, and we'll knock this one on the

617
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: head for a Monday. We'll be back on Thursday. Thank

618
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: you very much, Ben, enjoy your week, mate.

619
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: Thank you looking forward to the game, even though I

620
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: said I wasn't