1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: You wonder how long it would take for someone to 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: work out that the injunction over Tom Phillips and the 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: various bits and pieces weren't allowed to talk about would 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: done well be talked about. Maybe this is widely understood, 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: maybe it isn't. But an injunction is imposed by a 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: New Zealand court is applicable only in New Zealand. It's 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: an effective mechanism if you're living in nineteen seventy nine 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: or even nineteen ninety nine, but post the Internet and 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: especially social media, it borders on being pointless. So what 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: we have post the injunction on Phillips and the various 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: issues around his family is everyone knows what's in it 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: and have done basically from the start. Offshore operators are 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: spreading it about the place like no tomorrow, which led 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: some people Friday to raise it with the Justice Minister, 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: who is quote unquote having a look at it as 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: though that means anything, but he is not optimistic, no kidding, 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: which leads to the obvious question why go for an 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: injunction and also why would a judge offer an injunction 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: knowing no one internationally is going to adhere to it. 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Answer to the first, I don't know answer to the second, 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: My guess is no judge wants the state wants to 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: state the obvious by admitting defeat, because in turning it down, 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: because it's pointless, you are in effect setting a precedent, 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: and every application going forward would be open to that precedent. 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: And therefore you don't want to be the person who 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: blew it all up. Also, do not underestimate I don't 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: think the egos associated with the judiciary, who, despite the 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: modern world, still hold the idea that they count for 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: something and they hold sway over the discourse of matters 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: in their courts. The other major issue, international outlets or not, is, 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: of course, the vacuum create a vacuum, it gets filled 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: with nonsense. Now I know what's in the injunction. I've 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: been told by people who know as well, So I 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: know the weirdness that's out there that isn't real or 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: indeed even close to it. So all in all, what 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: you've got the whole thing's monumental mess. Gossip rules the roost. 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: The real story is there to be had. It's all 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: over the world, and the judiciary might want to think 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: about how they handle these matters going forward because the 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: horse has bolted and the Justice Minister I can assure 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: you will not be offering anyone anything by way of solution. 42 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: news talks that be from six weekdays, or follow the 44 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio