1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,613 Speaker 1: from news Talks at. 3 00:00:11,653 --> 00:00:15,333 Speaker 2: B are Happy with your House? 4 00:00:16,253 --> 00:00:19,173 Speaker 1: I climb afters. 5 00:00:20,573 --> 00:00:20,813 Speaker 2: Head? 6 00:00:21,773 --> 00:00:23,293 Speaker 3: What does the head not hair? 7 00:00:23,413 --> 00:00:29,853 Speaker 4: A passive fire, fire, passion, a sort of chief. 8 00:00:30,573 --> 00:00:32,613 Speaker 3: A surface. 9 00:00:33,293 --> 00:00:40,213 Speaker 4: I was cooking on the knee. This is Gorilla's interesting. 10 00:00:40,293 --> 00:00:43,773 Speaker 4: He That song is called the God of Lying. They've 11 00:00:43,813 --> 00:00:46,973 Speaker 4: just released a new album, it's called The Mountain, twenty 12 00:00:47,013 --> 00:00:51,013 Speaker 4: five years since their eponymous debut. Chris Schultz Music Review 13 00:00:51,053 --> 00:00:53,293 Speaker 4: has been listening to the album and he's with us 14 00:00:53,293 --> 00:00:56,093 Speaker 4: this morning. Good morning, Chris, you're to Jack. 15 00:00:58,013 --> 00:01:02,493 Speaker 2: That song is a great example of what's going on 16 00:01:02,493 --> 00:01:05,733 Speaker 2: on this album. You can hear the circus melody in 17 00:01:05,773 --> 00:01:09,093 Speaker 2: the background and it's almost quite wat but then you 18 00:01:09,133 --> 00:01:13,013 Speaker 2: hear the vocals and it's quite dark. It's it's that's 19 00:01:13,053 --> 00:01:15,773 Speaker 2: the Idols front man, the great Scottish rock band there. 20 00:01:16,813 --> 00:01:21,933 Speaker 2: It's this is an album about death and grief and 21 00:01:21,973 --> 00:01:24,493 Speaker 2: if you really listen to those lyrics, that's what they're 22 00:01:24,493 --> 00:01:29,053 Speaker 2: getting into. It's got this crazy backstory. You know, the 23 00:01:29,053 --> 00:01:32,173 Speaker 2: band's front man Damon Alban from Blur. You know he 24 00:01:32,213 --> 00:01:34,533 Speaker 2: could be touring the world with Blur if he wanted 25 00:01:34,573 --> 00:01:36,493 Speaker 2: to be doing that. He clearly does it. He's turned 26 00:01:36,493 --> 00:01:39,853 Speaker 2: the side hustle with Gorillas into his main hustle. He 27 00:01:39,893 --> 00:01:43,133 Speaker 2: went off to India after their twenty twenty three album 28 00:01:43,173 --> 00:01:48,253 Speaker 2: Cracker Island with his Gorilla's bandmates Jamie Hewlett, and while 29 00:01:48,253 --> 00:01:50,813 Speaker 2: they were there, both their dads died and so it 30 00:01:50,933 --> 00:01:53,173 Speaker 2: sort of turned into this. You know, people go to 31 00:01:53,173 --> 00:01:56,093 Speaker 2: India for these kind of spiritual awakenings. I guess it's 32 00:01:56,093 --> 00:02:00,853 Speaker 2: a pretty corny cliche these days, but it has resulted 33 00:02:01,093 --> 00:02:03,493 Speaker 2: and probably their best album since. 34 00:02:03,293 --> 00:02:04,413 Speaker 3: Their first album. 35 00:02:04,453 --> 00:02:07,253 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's a it's a 36 00:02:07,293 --> 00:02:11,493 Speaker 2: great listen. It's got that Gorilla's trick of teasing you 37 00:02:11,573 --> 00:02:15,293 Speaker 2: in with this like cartoon facade. Right, it's very accessible. 38 00:02:15,613 --> 00:02:18,013 Speaker 2: This band is very accessible. All their music videos are 39 00:02:18,493 --> 00:02:23,053 Speaker 2: cartoon characters. Kids actually love it because of that, but 40 00:02:23,093 --> 00:02:25,853 Speaker 2: when you actually listen to it. 41 00:02:25,013 --> 00:02:27,173 Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a bit grim, it's a little 42 00:02:27,253 --> 00:02:28,693 Speaker 3: it's a neat trick they pulled. 43 00:02:28,733 --> 00:02:31,973 Speaker 2: They deliver these quite heavy themes on you and this 44 00:02:32,133 --> 00:02:36,853 Speaker 2: is about death and grief, a bit lighten it up 45 00:02:36,933 --> 00:02:40,693 Speaker 2: with this kind of like yeah, almost like a circus atmosphere. 46 00:02:40,853 --> 00:02:43,813 Speaker 2: The other thing they're doing here is that he's got 47 00:02:44,053 --> 00:02:47,293 Speaker 2: voices from all these collaborators over the years. He saved 48 00:02:47,373 --> 00:02:50,093 Speaker 2: up all these audio files, the snippets from the studio, 49 00:02:50,933 --> 00:02:54,973 Speaker 2: and even people who who have been long since died 50 00:02:55,893 --> 00:02:57,813 Speaker 2: are featured on this album. So he's sitting and listening 51 00:02:57,853 --> 00:03:00,933 Speaker 2: to it and suddenly Bob Bobby Womack turns up the 52 00:03:00,973 --> 00:03:02,013 Speaker 2: actor Dennis Hopper. 53 00:03:02,453 --> 00:03:06,213 Speaker 3: His voice is in there. Yeah, and then the craziest story. 54 00:03:06,253 --> 00:03:10,333 Speaker 4: I kind of posthumous, posthumous get contributors. 55 00:03:10,453 --> 00:03:13,693 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yes, it's that kind of weird mix of 56 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:16,213 Speaker 2: the past in the present. But the storial of the 57 00:03:16,293 --> 00:03:20,093 Speaker 2: most is Eminem's old hype man Proof died in two 58 00:03:20,173 --> 00:03:23,133 Speaker 2: thousand and six, one day after nine to eleven. In 59 00:03:23,133 --> 00:03:25,533 Speaker 2: two thousand and one, Damon Alban got him into the 60 00:03:25,573 --> 00:03:28,973 Speaker 2: studio to try and reckon with you know this this 61 00:03:29,173 --> 00:03:33,573 Speaker 2: tragic event, and the vocals from that session are on 62 00:03:33,653 --> 00:03:36,693 Speaker 2: this album. It's on a song called the Manifesto and 63 00:03:36,733 --> 00:03:40,373 Speaker 2: he's he's rapping about like murder and then five years 64 00:03:40,413 --> 00:03:44,733 Speaker 2: later he was actually murdered in a pool gang shooting. 65 00:03:44,933 --> 00:03:48,333 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's just eerie moments like that sort does 66 00:03:48,373 --> 00:03:50,013 Speaker 3: this come out the more you listen. 67 00:03:49,773 --> 00:03:53,813 Speaker 2: To it it's a it's a pretty like thrilling listen 68 00:03:53,813 --> 00:03:55,653 Speaker 2: you when you get into the nitty gritty of it, 69 00:03:55,733 --> 00:03:57,093 Speaker 2: like you do want to listen to it from start 70 00:03:57,133 --> 00:04:00,293 Speaker 2: to finish because it is a full album experience. 71 00:04:01,093 --> 00:04:03,693 Speaker 4: And is it kind of melancholic because they do have 72 00:04:03,733 --> 00:04:06,333 Speaker 4: a bit of a melancholic Yeah, yeah, right vibe. 73 00:04:06,653 --> 00:04:09,813 Speaker 2: Damon Albarn strikes me as a pretty depressive sort of type. 74 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:14,173 Speaker 2: I mean everything he sings sounds kind of morose and mournful. 75 00:04:14,973 --> 00:04:17,133 Speaker 2: He just is that kind of guy. I mean, blues 76 00:04:17,173 --> 00:04:19,133 Speaker 2: albums are full of those kind of ballads, right, Like, 77 00:04:19,173 --> 00:04:19,533 Speaker 2: that's what. 78 00:04:19,493 --> 00:04:20,533 Speaker 3: He loves them for. 79 00:04:20,973 --> 00:04:22,493 Speaker 2: But he does it here and that is the sort 80 00:04:22,533 --> 00:04:24,773 Speaker 2: of blue that holds us together. His voice floats in 81 00:04:24,813 --> 00:04:29,413 Speaker 2: and out of all these other collaborators and all the 82 00:04:29,493 --> 00:04:31,493 Speaker 2: instruments that he's got going on here. I mean, there's 83 00:04:31,573 --> 00:04:33,893 Speaker 2: so many different instruments here. You're going to hear flutes 84 00:04:33,893 --> 00:04:36,293 Speaker 2: and sitars and you know, all this crazy stuff. 85 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:38,573 Speaker 3: But yeah, then there's his voice. You did right. 86 00:04:38,893 --> 00:04:43,053 Speaker 2: It's it's him holding it together. It's this kind of sorrowful, 87 00:04:43,853 --> 00:04:47,213 Speaker 2: mournful thing going on. But it's not sad. It's not 88 00:04:47,253 --> 00:04:49,133 Speaker 2: a sad album. I didn't listen to this and feel 89 00:04:49,173 --> 00:04:53,613 Speaker 2: like depressed or sad. I felt it's quite uplifting and 90 00:04:53,693 --> 00:04:56,253 Speaker 2: it's got that like those circus melodies, like that song 91 00:04:56,293 --> 00:04:56,893 Speaker 2: you played earlier. 92 00:04:56,933 --> 00:04:58,453 Speaker 3: It's got that winning through it too. 93 00:04:59,013 --> 00:05:01,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, not very good? So what did you give it? 94 00:05:02,573 --> 00:05:05,093 Speaker 3: I love this album. This is really got to me. 95 00:05:05,133 --> 00:05:05,493 Speaker 3: I don't know. 96 00:05:05,493 --> 00:05:07,493 Speaker 2: It just speaks to me about this moment I think 97 00:05:07,533 --> 00:05:08,173 Speaker 2: something about it. 98 00:05:08,253 --> 00:05:10,333 Speaker 3: So I'm four stars. I'm all in on this. 99 00:05:10,413 --> 00:05:13,413 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm very good. Okay, I'm looking forward to listening 100 00:05:13,413 --> 00:05:16,293 Speaker 4: to that. I haven't like loved gorilla stuff of late. 101 00:05:16,693 --> 00:05:19,453 Speaker 4: So but that the way you've described it really does 102 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:20,973 Speaker 4: sound like a bit of me. Hey are you going 103 00:05:21,053 --> 00:05:21,893 Speaker 4: to Symphony tonight? 104 00:05:22,893 --> 00:05:25,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the it's the last kind of big sort 105 00:05:25,973 --> 00:05:27,333 Speaker 2: of summer festival, if you like. 106 00:05:27,373 --> 00:05:28,533 Speaker 3: It's not really summer anymore. 107 00:05:28,533 --> 00:05:30,773 Speaker 2: But this is the swan song of what we've all 108 00:05:30,773 --> 00:05:32,853 Speaker 2: just been through with Electric Avenue and Lane Way. It's 109 00:05:32,853 --> 00:05:36,293 Speaker 2: tonight at Auckland Domain. They're expecting thirty five thousand plus people. 110 00:05:36,373 --> 00:05:39,133 Speaker 2: Symphony has just become this juggernaut. 111 00:05:39,293 --> 00:05:39,973 Speaker 3: People don't ask you. 112 00:05:40,093 --> 00:05:42,813 Speaker 4: That's the worst juggernaut. It's huge. 113 00:05:43,453 --> 00:05:46,293 Speaker 2: People don't understand that this thing is like different part 114 00:05:46,453 --> 00:05:48,853 Speaker 2: like kinds of iterations of it are touring the world 115 00:05:48,933 --> 00:05:50,293 Speaker 2: almost like Sir to Silay. 116 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:53,213 Speaker 3: You know, there's all these different delays. 117 00:05:52,733 --> 00:05:55,693 Speaker 2: Play in different parts of the world. It's the same thing. 118 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:58,653 Speaker 2: They're playing festivals through Europe with one version of it. 119 00:05:58,893 --> 00:06:00,853 Speaker 2: They're opening hotels in Vegas. 120 00:06:01,093 --> 00:06:04,693 Speaker 3: They're on the Formula one starting grid sometimes playing it's 121 00:06:04,813 --> 00:06:06,693 Speaker 3: it's serious. 122 00:06:06,493 --> 00:06:08,773 Speaker 2: Crazy, yeah, yeah, it's if you go and look at 123 00:06:09,013 --> 00:06:10,853 Speaker 2: everything they're doing, you know, there's like. 124 00:06:10,973 --> 00:06:12,453 Speaker 4: On the Formula one starting Roud. 125 00:06:13,453 --> 00:06:16,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have open Formula ones, They've opened hotels. 126 00:06:16,493 --> 00:06:19,133 Speaker 3: It's wild what this thing has become. 127 00:06:19,173 --> 00:06:21,293 Speaker 2: I think their ambition has to become like the the 128 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:25,453 Speaker 2: biggest covers events in the world. And if they're not, 129 00:06:25,493 --> 00:06:29,493 Speaker 2: they're already they're well on the way because but but yeah, 130 00:06:29,813 --> 00:06:31,693 Speaker 2: the one of the domain is where they sort of 131 00:06:31,893 --> 00:06:34,893 Speaker 2: trial the new shows, where they work out the new music, 132 00:06:34,933 --> 00:06:37,453 Speaker 2: and then they take it overseas. So it's a new 133 00:06:37,453 --> 00:06:39,893 Speaker 2: show tonight. I think it's Symphony number seven. There's a 134 00:06:39,893 --> 00:06:43,173 Speaker 2: whole festival lineup. Faithless are on there, the Exponents, the 135 00:06:43,173 --> 00:06:43,853 Speaker 2: Black Seeds. 136 00:06:43,853 --> 00:06:46,533 Speaker 3: It starts at like two pm, i think, and there's 137 00:06:46,853 --> 00:06:48,253 Speaker 3: there's two stages. 138 00:06:47,813 --> 00:06:50,133 Speaker 2: Now, so it really has grown in Auckland as well 139 00:06:50,173 --> 00:06:52,013 Speaker 2: as the rest of the world. 140 00:06:52,493 --> 00:06:55,693 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, it's going to be amazing enjoy. 141 00:06:56,093 --> 00:06:58,333 Speaker 2: And it's a little sad, a little sad for me 142 00:06:58,373 --> 00:07:00,573 Speaker 2: because you know, it's the last festival I've got to 143 00:07:00,813 --> 00:07:01,853 Speaker 2: you know, wait another stuff. 144 00:07:02,853 --> 00:07:05,493 Speaker 4: It's been a pretty good summer, hasn't it, Chris. 145 00:07:05,813 --> 00:07:06,253 Speaker 3: It's been. 146 00:07:07,733 --> 00:07:10,253 Speaker 4: For choice, But yeah, I get it, I get it. 147 00:07:10,413 --> 00:07:12,093 Speaker 4: It's probably not a bad time to have a little 148 00:07:12,093 --> 00:07:16,653 Speaker 4: bit of an opportunity to recharge the batteries and gear 149 00:07:16,733 --> 00:07:18,773 Speaker 4: up for the next ones. But yeah, thank you and 150 00:07:18,933 --> 00:07:21,253 Speaker 4: very much looking forward to listening to the Mountain. So 151 00:07:21,293 --> 00:07:23,213 Speaker 4: you can hear more from Chris on his sub stack 152 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:26,333 Speaker 4: of course, boiler Room, four Stars, he Reckons the Mountain 153 00:07:26,373 --> 00:07:29,173 Speaker 4: Bike Gorillas is Worth will pick a good track from 154 00:07:29,253 --> 00:07:30,653 Speaker 4: that album and play it for you in a couple 155 00:07:30,653 --> 00:07:31,053 Speaker 4: of minutes. 156 00:07:31,613 --> 00:07:34,733 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 157 00:07:34,813 --> 00:07:37,613 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B from nine am Saturday, or 158 00:07:37,693 --> 00:07:39,613 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.