1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from Newstalk zb. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:15,467 Speaker 2: But let's bring in seventy one test All Blacks front 4 00:00:15,547 --> 00:00:18,627 Speaker 2: Roll White Crockett for his analysis. Why thanks for joining 5 00:00:18,667 --> 00:00:21,227 Speaker 2: us this afternoon. You'll have enjoyed the last act of 6 00:00:21,307 --> 00:00:23,907 Speaker 2: the game, a big front rower crashing over to score 7 00:00:23,947 --> 00:00:24,907 Speaker 2: the bonus point try. 8 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:30,667 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, that was good. And I thought Lerakada did 9 00:00:30,667 --> 00:00:32,307 Speaker 3: a good week front row try in the first tart 10 00:00:32,387 --> 00:00:34,987 Speaker 3: to Deny, so he's taking some of the glory off 11 00:00:35,067 --> 00:00:36,347 Speaker 3: the lower numbers unfortunately. 12 00:00:36,987 --> 00:00:39,467 Speaker 2: Indeed, well, yeah, indeed. How happy do you think the 13 00:00:39,507 --> 00:00:42,067 Speaker 2: All Blacks coaching staff the players will be with their 14 00:00:42,227 --> 00:00:43,267 Speaker 2: performance last night? 15 00:00:44,707 --> 00:00:47,187 Speaker 3: I don't think yeah, I think they'll be really happy 16 00:00:47,227 --> 00:00:50,827 Speaker 3: to finish on a good note. You know, there's certainly 17 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:54,547 Speaker 3: semestericks that didn't go to plan, I think, but all 18 00:00:54,587 --> 00:00:56,907 Speaker 3: in all, I think it was pretty good performance. Definitely 19 00:00:56,907 --> 00:00:59,027 Speaker 3: good to see Less to get back out there, and 20 00:00:59,827 --> 00:01:01,507 Speaker 3: I thought he played really well and some of the 21 00:01:01,507 --> 00:01:04,867 Speaker 3: other young guys that have had a crack Quinty Poyor again, 22 00:01:04,907 --> 00:01:07,427 Speaker 3: I thought he played outstanding, really good off the beach 23 00:01:07,507 --> 00:01:09,907 Speaker 3: last week and really took his chances tonight. 24 00:01:10,307 --> 00:01:13,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a standout, wasn't he at center? He 25 00:01:13,707 --> 00:01:15,507 Speaker 2: hasn't played there a lot. Do you think he might 26 00:01:15,547 --> 00:01:19,387 Speaker 2: be a long term option now? In that thirteen jumper. 27 00:01:20,027 --> 00:01:22,867 Speaker 3: Well, he was outstanding, it wasn't he. I think he 28 00:01:22,907 --> 00:01:25,987 Speaker 3: came on there last week as well, but definitely I 29 00:01:26,027 --> 00:01:29,147 Speaker 3: think he's certainly put his hand up. And I thought 30 00:01:29,147 --> 00:01:32,187 Speaker 3: the other guy, obviously, I thought they might have given 31 00:01:32,267 --> 00:01:33,867 Speaker 3: Lesser a bit of a bit of time at center 32 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:37,147 Speaker 3: as well, but maybe that's something to come in the 33 00:01:37,227 --> 00:01:37,907 Speaker 3: end of your tour. 34 00:01:38,947 --> 00:01:41,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, first thirty minutes of the game, but MESSI the 35 00:01:41,907 --> 00:01:44,427 Speaker 2: connections were hard to find, just twenty four percent position 36 00:01:44,507 --> 00:01:46,547 Speaker 2: for the All Blacks in the first twenty Why do 37 00:01:46,547 --> 00:01:47,787 Speaker 2: you think it took them a little while to get 38 00:01:47,787 --> 00:01:48,267 Speaker 2: into the game? 39 00:01:49,427 --> 00:01:51,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Australia started pretty well actually, and I 40 00:01:51,987 --> 00:01:56,107 Speaker 3: was probably a little bit unfortunate with that the crocodile 41 00:01:56,187 --> 00:01:58,667 Speaker 3: rock to mess out and get on that try to 42 00:01:58,707 --> 00:02:02,267 Speaker 3: Ellen tower. But you know, they sort of brought it 43 00:02:02,267 --> 00:02:04,627 Speaker 3: in that first tast didn't they, And it was I 44 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:07,027 Speaker 3: think that the big turning set was actually a couple 45 00:02:07,027 --> 00:02:09,947 Speaker 3: of good scrum penalties in that first half sort of 46 00:02:09,947 --> 00:02:11,667 Speaker 3: got us out of trouble a couple of times and 47 00:02:11,827 --> 00:02:13,307 Speaker 3: got us down the other end of the park. And 48 00:02:13,347 --> 00:02:15,587 Speaker 3: then yeah, just in that last teen minutes, we sort 49 00:02:15,627 --> 00:02:18,507 Speaker 3: of took a couple of opportunities, didn't we And and 50 00:02:18,507 --> 00:02:20,467 Speaker 3: and that was, you know, in the end, probably the 51 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:21,227 Speaker 3: winning of the game. 52 00:02:21,787 --> 00:02:23,467 Speaker 2: What are you seeing from the All Blacks at set 53 00:02:23,507 --> 00:02:26,427 Speaker 2: pace time this year, in particular in the last couple 54 00:02:26,427 --> 00:02:26,867 Speaker 2: of games. 55 00:02:28,027 --> 00:02:30,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think we have no doubt. We 56 00:02:30,867 --> 00:02:35,587 Speaker 3: had our struggles with Safga and even at times against Argentina, 57 00:02:35,667 --> 00:02:38,867 Speaker 3: I thought, but they've they seem to have settled and 58 00:02:38,987 --> 00:02:40,467 Speaker 3: you know, we had a couple of guys coming back 59 00:02:40,467 --> 00:02:45,387 Speaker 3: from injury with to Mighty and and Tyrrel and but yeah, 60 00:02:45,427 --> 00:02:47,907 Speaker 3: this last couple of weeks, I think they've really stepped 61 00:02:48,267 --> 00:02:51,947 Speaker 3: stepped up again. And you know, particularly tonight, the scrum 62 00:02:52,107 --> 00:02:54,187 Speaker 3: was was really good and as I say, got us 63 00:02:54,187 --> 00:02:56,987 Speaker 3: out of trouble a couple of times. And I think 64 00:02:57,027 --> 00:02:59,107 Speaker 3: we've probably got the better of the Aussies again in 65 00:02:59,147 --> 00:03:03,147 Speaker 3: the lineouts, which again such a critical part of the 66 00:03:03,187 --> 00:03:06,347 Speaker 3: game is winning good quality ball. So now I think 67 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:09,547 Speaker 3: I've definitely taken a couple of strikes forward after maybe 68 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:11,987 Speaker 3: just a couple of we must help earlier on in 69 00:03:11,987 --> 00:03:14,387 Speaker 3: the season. I think, yeah, yeah, Jason run, We're a 70 00:03:14,387 --> 00:03:16,187 Speaker 3: lot happier after these two games. 71 00:03:16,387 --> 00:03:18,467 Speaker 2: Do you think to Mighty Williams and Fletcher and Newell 72 00:03:18,947 --> 00:03:22,947 Speaker 2: are putting genuine pressure on Ethan de Groot and Tyrell Lomax? 73 00:03:22,947 --> 00:03:25,787 Speaker 2: So I guess I've been the generally accepted starting front 74 00:03:25,867 --> 00:03:27,987 Speaker 2: rowers for the last little while. Do you think Tomighty 75 00:03:28,027 --> 00:03:30,467 Speaker 2: and Fletcher are putting genuine pressure on in those positions? 76 00:03:31,987 --> 00:03:35,067 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not. Yeah, I think they're certainly playing very 77 00:03:35,147 --> 00:03:38,587 Speaker 3: very well. And I think you know whether or not 78 00:03:38,627 --> 00:03:40,387 Speaker 3: they're putting pressure on the start, but I think that 79 00:03:41,027 --> 00:03:43,667 Speaker 3: you know, they've Jason will be really thinking about it, 80 00:03:43,707 --> 00:03:47,707 Speaker 3: as you know, they've got four quality props and whoever 81 00:03:47,787 --> 00:03:50,787 Speaker 3: starts or finishes the game probably at this stage doesn't 82 00:03:50,827 --> 00:03:53,707 Speaker 3: really matter too much. Which is an awesome position to outstanding, 83 00:03:53,747 --> 00:03:55,907 Speaker 3: this position to be and you know, and that's and 84 00:03:55,987 --> 00:03:59,147 Speaker 3: that's I think where they're getting to that position where 85 00:03:59,187 --> 00:04:01,827 Speaker 3: like who are we better to finish the test match with? 86 00:04:01,907 --> 00:04:03,907 Speaker 3: And who are we better to start the test match with? 87 00:04:05,587 --> 00:04:07,787 Speaker 3: And you yeah, so I don't know even know if 88 00:04:07,787 --> 00:04:09,947 Speaker 3: there's too much separation between all four of them at 89 00:04:09,947 --> 00:04:12,427 Speaker 3: the moment, it's pretty I think they're all pretty close 90 00:04:12,467 --> 00:04:13,467 Speaker 3: and playing well. 91 00:04:13,547 --> 00:04:15,227 Speaker 2: Yeah, and add a couple more and with bustle or 92 00:04:15,227 --> 00:04:17,547 Speaker 2: TOSSI George Bower last night of course as well. Why 93 00:04:17,587 --> 00:04:19,667 Speaker 2: are there certain front row forwards? Are there certain prop 94 00:04:19,707 --> 00:04:22,627 Speaker 2: forwards who are better suited to a bench roll than 95 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:23,387 Speaker 2: a starting role? 96 00:04:24,507 --> 00:04:27,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I definitely believe that 97 00:04:27,987 --> 00:04:29,587 Speaker 3: there are there some that are just a little bit 98 00:04:31,267 --> 00:04:34,587 Speaker 3: potentially a bit more mobile and you know suit that 99 00:04:34,707 --> 00:04:37,347 Speaker 3: sort of last twenty thirty minutes when the game can 100 00:04:38,107 --> 00:04:41,267 Speaker 3: break open a wee bit and there's certainly you know, 101 00:04:41,507 --> 00:04:44,547 Speaker 3: front rowers are probably more suited that first twenty where 102 00:04:44,827 --> 00:04:48,547 Speaker 3: first twenty thirty minutes of the game where you know, 103 00:04:48,827 --> 00:04:51,707 Speaker 3: it's probably a little bit but tighter teams are a 104 00:04:51,787 --> 00:04:58,827 Speaker 3: little bit more probably reserved in their attack. So yeah, 105 00:04:58,867 --> 00:05:01,947 Speaker 3: I definitely do think there's you know, you probably have 106 00:05:02,027 --> 00:05:04,307 Speaker 3: your strongest scrummager on at the start of the game, 107 00:05:04,347 --> 00:05:06,867 Speaker 3: I would say, and then you probably have your probably 108 00:05:06,947 --> 00:05:10,267 Speaker 3: more athletic ball players on them. The second half would 109 00:05:10,267 --> 00:05:12,227 Speaker 3: probably the general rule of time. 110 00:05:12,467 --> 00:05:15,027 Speaker 2: You often see you know, front rows come on and 111 00:05:15,827 --> 00:05:17,667 Speaker 2: you know, off the bench and straight away they've got 112 00:05:17,667 --> 00:05:19,827 Speaker 2: to go into a scrum happens quite a lot. How 113 00:05:19,907 --> 00:05:21,627 Speaker 2: challenging is that to come on and then just pack 114 00:05:21,707 --> 00:05:22,467 Speaker 2: down straight away? 115 00:05:23,707 --> 00:05:25,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be like I think we you know, 116 00:05:25,867 --> 00:05:27,747 Speaker 3: you work really hard at that sort of stuff. And 117 00:05:28,467 --> 00:05:30,747 Speaker 3: no doubt the guys on the on the sidelin are 118 00:05:31,387 --> 00:05:34,307 Speaker 3: you know, doing some potentially some two on twos or 119 00:05:34,307 --> 00:05:37,027 Speaker 3: three on threes and what not to to get ready 120 00:05:37,107 --> 00:05:39,507 Speaker 3: and you know mentally the you know, front Road coach 121 00:05:39,507 --> 00:05:42,587 Speaker 3: will be talking to them. I know that's certainly back 122 00:05:42,587 --> 00:05:45,747 Speaker 3: in the case case when I was playing, but yeah, 123 00:05:45,947 --> 00:05:49,067 Speaker 3: it's it's definitely a mindset thing, and you know you're 124 00:05:49,107 --> 00:05:51,907 Speaker 3: going and you know, a couple of two on twos, 125 00:05:51,987 --> 00:05:54,067 Speaker 3: this is actually going into a live eight or eight 126 00:05:54,627 --> 00:05:56,987 Speaker 3: test match scrammer. There's definitely a big step up. So 127 00:05:57,827 --> 00:06:00,667 Speaker 3: you do have to, you know, work really hard on 128 00:06:00,707 --> 00:06:04,787 Speaker 3: that and get used to that as a bench player, 129 00:06:05,467 --> 00:06:07,387 Speaker 3: making sure that when you do hit that first gram, 130 00:06:07,427 --> 00:06:09,627 Speaker 3: you're ready to go and you mentally switched on. 131 00:06:10,147 --> 00:06:12,267 Speaker 2: It's certainly a twenty three man game, now, wasn't it 132 00:06:12,747 --> 00:06:14,867 Speaker 2: the impact from the All Blacks bench? I know you 133 00:06:14,907 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 2: were quite impressed with it last week, did you did 134 00:06:17,267 --> 00:06:19,187 Speaker 2: you see the same impact off the bench last night. 135 00:06:20,707 --> 00:06:23,787 Speaker 3: It was it was a different game, wasn't it last night? 136 00:06:23,827 --> 00:06:26,667 Speaker 3: You know, the rain came down and I felt like 137 00:06:26,747 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 3: the game sort of deteriorated a wee bit in that 138 00:06:29,187 --> 00:06:32,747 Speaker 3: second half. Obviously Australia we're playing catch up footy and 139 00:06:33,827 --> 00:06:36,267 Speaker 3: and it was a little bit, yeah, just sort of 140 00:06:36,307 --> 00:06:39,027 Speaker 3: lost its structure a wee bit. So hard to say really, 141 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:42,067 Speaker 3: but you know last week I thought they were absolutely 142 00:06:42,107 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 3: outstanding and really, you know, probably one I set test match. 143 00:06:45,747 --> 00:06:50,707 Speaker 3: So some good signs obviously, you know, probably over the 144 00:06:50,787 --> 00:06:53,227 Speaker 3: last couple of years you'd have to say that, you know, 145 00:06:53,307 --> 00:06:55,467 Speaker 3: we haven't potentially finished the games as well as we 146 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:57,427 Speaker 3: would have liked a lot. I know that's something that 147 00:06:57,467 --> 00:07:00,947 Speaker 3: the coaches have talked about a bit. So some pleasing 148 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:03,627 Speaker 3: signs at the bench have been coming on and doing 149 00:07:03,707 --> 00:07:04,147 Speaker 3: good job. 150 00:07:05,027 --> 00:07:07,227 Speaker 2: So as the coach is now sort of reflect on 151 00:07:07,227 --> 00:07:08,987 Speaker 2: the Rugby Championship, they've got a bit of time off 152 00:07:09,027 --> 00:07:11,307 Speaker 2: and then they look ahead to the final Test of 153 00:07:11,307 --> 00:07:16,107 Speaker 2: the year Island Scotland England Wales November Test matches. What 154 00:07:16,187 --> 00:07:18,507 Speaker 2: do you think they'll be looking at in terms of 155 00:07:18,587 --> 00:07:21,587 Speaker 2: further growth areas. You know, obviously they've they've won seven 156 00:07:21,627 --> 00:07:24,187 Speaker 2: out of nine, so that looks good on paper. Where 157 00:07:24,187 --> 00:07:26,267 Speaker 2: do you think that the growth area is, if you 158 00:07:26,267 --> 00:07:27,667 Speaker 2: want to call them that for the All. 159 00:07:27,507 --> 00:07:31,227 Speaker 3: Blacks, Well, I think that right across the board really, 160 00:07:31,267 --> 00:07:33,067 Speaker 3: but I think, you know, they'll be really pleased with 161 00:07:33,227 --> 00:07:36,227 Speaker 3: the growth of some of the guys that have stepped 162 00:07:36,227 --> 00:07:39,667 Speaker 3: into their first Test match season and also to see 163 00:07:39,667 --> 00:07:41,787 Speaker 3: the lights of Quincy Pie coming off after some pretty 164 00:07:41,787 --> 00:07:45,347 Speaker 3: horrific injuries and coming back and really nailing his opportunity. 165 00:07:45,427 --> 00:07:49,667 Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing you know, Lester have a bit 166 00:07:49,707 --> 00:07:52,947 Speaker 3: more of a crack and a bit more time, you know, 167 00:07:53,027 --> 00:07:55,027 Speaker 3: seeing what position they look to put her out. I 168 00:07:55,147 --> 00:07:57,267 Speaker 3: notice I've been playing him in the midfield and Tasman. 169 00:07:57,307 --> 00:07:59,027 Speaker 3: I wonder whether that's a bit of a sign of 170 00:07:59,547 --> 00:08:03,067 Speaker 3: something that they're trying to think about. But yeah, I'm 171 00:08:03,067 --> 00:08:05,747 Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing you again that sort of further 172 00:08:06,027 --> 00:08:10,467 Speaker 3: develop one of those you know, that front row and 173 00:08:10,627 --> 00:08:13,427 Speaker 3: no bit locking combination, which is which has changed around 174 00:08:13,627 --> 00:08:16,547 Speaker 3: that through injury over the last few weeks. But we've 175 00:08:16,547 --> 00:08:18,987 Speaker 3: got some quality of the year now, which is which 176 00:08:19,027 --> 00:08:21,267 Speaker 3: is good to see. And yeah, so just just I 177 00:08:21,307 --> 00:08:23,787 Speaker 3: suppose to the development of what they've been doing and 178 00:08:23,787 --> 00:08:26,587 Speaker 3: and looking to yet to improve them where they've been. 179 00:08:26,787 --> 00:08:28,267 Speaker 2: Do you think they were a better side than they 180 00:08:28,307 --> 00:08:29,227 Speaker 2: were at the start of the year. 181 00:08:30,507 --> 00:08:33,347 Speaker 3: I think that they've definitely uncovered some some huge talent 182 00:08:34,787 --> 00:08:37,187 Speaker 3: and that's exciting and I think that, yeah, I do 183 00:08:37,267 --> 00:08:41,387 Speaker 3: think that they've they've they're further along in there. I 184 00:08:41,387 --> 00:08:44,267 Speaker 3: suppose the growth towards being able to have, you know, 185 00:08:44,507 --> 00:08:46,907 Speaker 3: a squad of a really strong squad of thirty to 186 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:50,587 Speaker 3: thirty five players too to go into a World Cup 187 00:08:50,907 --> 00:08:53,547 Speaker 3: where you know, this is an injury or two or three, 188 00:08:55,307 --> 00:08:58,187 Speaker 3: been that comfortable, whereas you know, I think maybe going 189 00:08:58,187 --> 00:09:00,227 Speaker 3: a bit last year they used very much. It was 190 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:04,507 Speaker 3: the same twenty three weekend week out, and you know, 191 00:09:04,707 --> 00:09:06,827 Speaker 3: I know that's been a real focus of the current group. 192 00:09:06,827 --> 00:09:11,307 Speaker 3: Has to grow that, grow that squad to a confident 193 00:09:11,387 --> 00:09:14,947 Speaker 3: dirty that can week in week out, you know, says 194 00:09:15,067 --> 00:09:19,387 Speaker 3: changes that I suppose the team doesn't change too much 195 00:09:19,387 --> 00:09:21,707 Speaker 3: with my decepted so much. So I think that's been 196 00:09:21,907 --> 00:09:23,187 Speaker 3: been a real growth this year. 197 00:09:23,507 --> 00:09:26,347 Speaker 2: You never lost the Bletter Slow Cup during your time 198 00:09:26,347 --> 00:09:29,987 Speaker 2: in the team. Was it always a focus that trans Tasman. 199 00:09:30,307 --> 00:09:32,867 Speaker 2: I know rugby World Cups are there in Rugby Championships. 200 00:09:32,867 --> 00:09:35,627 Speaker 2: But was the Bledderslow Cup always something that God specifically 201 00:09:35,707 --> 00:09:37,667 Speaker 2: talked about as a piece of silver all where you 202 00:09:37,667 --> 00:09:38,427 Speaker 2: didn't want to let go of. 203 00:09:39,267 --> 00:09:42,627 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah it did you know, we're fortunate, Well, I 204 00:09:42,707 --> 00:09:44,787 Speaker 3: think I think in some ways we're fortunate. There's some 205 00:09:44,867 --> 00:09:47,747 Speaker 3: guys in the group that had really it had been 206 00:09:47,787 --> 00:09:52,107 Speaker 3: a battle to win it back. And you know, also 207 00:09:52,147 --> 00:09:54,547 Speaker 3: having grown up in that era where Australia we're quite 208 00:09:54,547 --> 00:09:58,707 Speaker 3: dominant and and we lost quite a few closing Bleader 209 00:09:58,747 --> 00:10:02,227 Speaker 3: Zone counters. It was always spoken about the week of 210 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:05,547 Speaker 3: a Bledersow Cup how important that trophy is to New 211 00:10:05,627 --> 00:10:09,107 Speaker 3: Zealanders and right up there is the number one trophy 212 00:10:09,147 --> 00:10:12,427 Speaker 3: behind the World Cup. So we we used to love 213 00:10:12,427 --> 00:10:16,467 Speaker 3: it and you know, to retain it as a you know, yeah, 214 00:10:16,667 --> 00:10:20,907 Speaker 3: it's a real privilege and yeah, it was always a 215 00:10:20,907 --> 00:10:23,467 Speaker 3: big moment of the season to retain that cup, fill 216 00:10:23,547 --> 00:10:24,787 Speaker 3: it up and have a wely drinking out of it. 217 00:10:25,067 --> 00:10:26,867 Speaker 2: Bet I bet. And just a word on James Slipper, 218 00:10:27,187 --> 00:10:28,387 Speaker 2: you would have had a few battles with him. One 219 00:10:28,427 --> 00:10:32,147 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one Test matches all done. Now, did 220 00:10:32,187 --> 00:10:35,267 Speaker 2: you did you relish packing down against a guy like that. 221 00:10:36,107 --> 00:10:39,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we obviously played we both played Lucid so 222 00:10:39,147 --> 00:10:41,067 Speaker 3: often didn't come up against each other on a one 223 00:10:41,107 --> 00:10:44,547 Speaker 3: on one position. But yeah, just James one hundred and 224 00:10:44,547 --> 00:10:47,387 Speaker 3: firsty test matches. It's a lot of scrum machines, it's 225 00:10:47,387 --> 00:10:50,667 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of mauls and a lot 226 00:10:50,707 --> 00:10:55,347 Speaker 3: of sow saw body. So just at an incredible effort 227 00:10:55,387 --> 00:10:56,947 Speaker 3: to get through that amount of work and I think 228 00:10:56,947 --> 00:10:59,547 Speaker 3: he's he's closing in on two hundred two for rugby 229 00:10:59,547 --> 00:11:02,947 Speaker 3: games on top of that, and to still be starting 230 00:11:03,027 --> 00:11:06,987 Speaker 3: and playing the way he hears that, it's pretty incredible. 231 00:11:07,147 --> 00:11:10,027 Speaker 3: Well very yeah, not only three people have done everyone 232 00:11:10,147 --> 00:11:14,067 Speaker 3: and he's the first front rower. So congratulations to James. 233 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:18,227 Speaker 3: A wonderful career and yes, always the pleasure to play 234 00:11:18,227 --> 00:11:20,707 Speaker 3: against men like Hammie was always always good for a 235 00:11:20,747 --> 00:11:22,707 Speaker 3: beer and a chad after the game as well, which 236 00:11:22,787 --> 00:11:26,747 Speaker 3: was which was nice and it seems like a good fellow. 237 00:11:26,787 --> 00:11:28,547 Speaker 3: So congratulations, good stuff. 238 00:11:28,827 --> 00:11:31,507 Speaker 2: Really appreciate your an elysis this afternoon. Mate, Thanks for joining. 239 00:11:31,307 --> 00:11:33,107 Speaker 3: Us nowhere is it all Ponty please? 240 00:11:33,347 --> 00:11:33,427 Speaker 1: No? 241 00:11:33,547 --> 00:11:34,067 Speaker 3: Thanks? Think no? 242 00:11:34,187 --> 00:11:37,587 Speaker 2: Thanks White White Crockett. 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