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Speaker 2: Hello, you got New Zealand and Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show, Podcast number one eighty five for eighteenth

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Speaker 2: of August. It's a Monday, twenty twenty five, and we

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Speaker 2: go deep into DNA on the show. We go all

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Speaker 2: the way into sperm donorship and all the ramifications of

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Speaker 2: families of adopted kids and finding parents, and boy boy,

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Speaker 2: there's some there's some freaking great stories there.

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Speaker 3: Yep, it was great two hours of Yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Was too It tuned up being to us because we

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Speaker 2: And there was also a bit of Ferris Bueller's Day Off,

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Speaker 2: Big Day Out of Vera Biller's Big Day Out.

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Speaker 4: And if yeah, if you want to figure out how

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Speaker 2: It's fires Bueller's Big Fears Bueller's Day Off, not Fears

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Speaker 2: Biller's Big Day Out. What am I talking about? Big

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Speaker 2: day It was that music.

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Speaker 3: Festival, great concert, great movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right then, thanks so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said.

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Speaker 4: The very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday's show

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Speaker 4: after what we hope was a fantastic weekend for you.

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Speaker 3: So much sport going on.

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Speaker 4: Weather was a bit effee in some parts of the country,

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Speaker 4: but I hope you had a great break and welcome

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Speaker 4: into today's show.

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Speaker 3: Awesome to have your company. Airs always good.

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Speaker 2: A Matte good Ay, Tyler, how are you? How is everyone?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in. Hey, I just wanted to do

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Speaker 2: a bit of a shout out MC the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five Aukland Rugby Referees Association Awards night. How good at

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Speaker 2: Eden Park on Saturday night and it was just an

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Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic evening. Those those refs that get out there

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Speaker 2: you know, rugby just wouldn't work. And if you think about,

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Speaker 2: you know, the inactivity of kids these days, and the

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Speaker 2: and the social isolation, digital addiction, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Rugby Union is a great sport to get them out.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a sport that has people of every

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Speaker 2: these skilled, talented referees going out there and officiating the games.

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Speaker 2: So fantastic people what they do. But also what I

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Speaker 2: noticed is that the community of those referees, they're just

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, you know, people that were looking

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Speaker 3: Sounded like an awesome night. Absolutely unity referees.

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Speaker 2: The MC was wanting, but.

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Speaker 3: I did hear that it was mixed response.

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Speaker 4: No, I hear you did very well, mate, And it

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Speaker 4: was a fantastic night and they freaking loved you. Wow,

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Speaker 2: It was a fantastic night.

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Speaker 4: An interesting story in the Herald today about a primary

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great question, that's going to be the discussion after

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Speaker 4: three o'clock. After two o'clock, how can you know who

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Speaker 4: That was the question posed by New Zealand hero reporter

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Speaker 4: Rachel Mayers. He embarked on a journey to find the

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful, beautiful rate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, an amazing story. And look, we would love

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Speaker 2: to share some stories of donor conceived children. So have

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Speaker 2: have children, you know, you can't for whatever reason, getting

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Speaker 2: the swimmers donated is a great option. It can be

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Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. But also there are other stories out there,

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Speaker 2: the horror stories. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: We will so looking forward to that after two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: But right now, let's have a chat about importing vehicles

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Speaker 4: from Japan. Hundreds of vehicles with clocked odometers have been

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Speaker 4: and in Japan. It's been released by a recent civil

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Speaker 4: As I understand it. We're keen to hear from you, oh,

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Speaker 4: got to go through a hell of a process that

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Speaker 4: you've got to get the vin sorted, you've got to

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Speaker 4: get it on the ship, You've got to do all

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Speaker 2: I just thought that rolling back the adometer was a

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Speaker 2: thing of the past. I didn't think it was possible anyway.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that was over. You know, I've bought

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Speaker 2: secondhand cars, and I just thought, I assume this is right,

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Speaker 2: because that's sort of an old seventies, eighties, even nineties thing.

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Speaker 2: You don't you can't roll back dometers in the two thousands.

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Speaker 2: But what happens if you find that? I mean, how

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Speaker 2: can you be sure of the case?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 2: And what happens if you find out that it's been

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Speaker 2: rolled back?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, what can you do about it?

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Speaker 2: And how do you roll them back?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's no judgment here. I mean it was back

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Speaker 4: in the day. You see a movie, it's either you

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Speaker 4: go into reverse like fires Builler.

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Speaker 2: That's always annoyed me because that's not going to work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or you chuck the drill into reverse. There was

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Speaker 4: by TV shows here. You just chuck the old drill

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Speaker 4: on the drill and it starts winding it back right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but going in reverse is surely not going to

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Speaker 2: So cars have sorted that out. Very very great movie, though,

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Speaker 2: First Bill is a day off and terrible when Cam's

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Speaker 2: of the garage showroom. Hey, y, before we continue, I'd

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Speaker 2: be remissive I didn't announce who the Orkley Auckland Rugby

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Speaker 2: Referee Association Supreme ref of the Year was. Yes, please

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Speaker 2: who the winner was?

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Speaker 3: Do you want a drum?

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Speaker 6: Roll?

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Speaker 2: YEP? It was Maui mcgeelee.

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Speaker 3: Nice good man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's a good man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic right?

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Speaker 4: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

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Speaker 4: How easy is it to wind the old odometer back?

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Speaker 4: And how do you know if you import a car

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts. Yeah, my car is about to rock around

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand k, so I wouldn't mind whipping that back

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Speaker 3: So chuck and reverse it. It's fourteen pas one.

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 8: It'd be.

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Speaker 4: Very good afternoon. It is sixteen past one. So we're

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Speaker 4: talking about tampered odometers. There was a big police sting

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Speaker 3: How easy is it?

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Speaker 7: Wow?

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Speaker 2: This six is whining cars back. It's easy to do

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Speaker 2: on most as it now is now electronic and a

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Speaker 2: computer to match. All right, wow, Henry disagrees with that.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Henry.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's probably right, but you've got to be fairly

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Speaker 9: good auto electrician. Maybe you should interview an auto electrician.

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Speaker 9: A very example. I bring in things like Tesla and

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Speaker 9: this and Leaf and all late model stuff. You can't

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Speaker 4: Why can't you do it with a late model Tesla

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Speaker 4: is there software two ironclad, but it's.

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Speaker 9: Recorded on the main computer. The mileage. You know, you

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Speaker 9: can't do it. I mean you can give Tesla a

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Speaker 9: ring impossible, right, the same as the same as a

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Speaker 9: distant leaf or most electronic dashboard. And you know you're

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Speaker 9: talking about winding the clock back with a scowl. Yes,

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Speaker 9: that's an analog speed of that. You can dial it back.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 9: You've got over a fairly clever auto electrician to do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you for advice, Henry. That's like a

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 10: But you can definitely easily wind them back with a

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Speaker 2: Does it leave any leave any mark as any way

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Speaker 10: Not visually. I think that's when the when the dealerships

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Speaker 10: Well, you'd hope. So it's it's misleading information, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: My understanding is that in New Zealand, tamping with a

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Speaker 2: The maximum penalty for the offense is fifteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Seem fifteen thousand dollars, I mean, you could have made

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Speaker 4: So is there any way to find out, Sam that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fascinating, Sam, Thank you very much for giving us

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of big fans of Ferris Bueller coming through.

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Speaker 3: We all believed it at the time, though, didn't we Well,

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Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 2: It's twenty two past one and if you were in

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Speaker 12: Well you did, so I think they should show But

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Speaker 12: I think it's something called accountability, and I think showing

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Speaker 4: There'd be very good afternoon to you. Twenty five past one.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about tampering with odometers, a big sting in

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Speaker 2: I have understated the penalty for odometer tampering in New Zealand. Okay, yeakay,

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Speaker 2: So I've just looked up the Motor Vehicle Sales Act

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Speaker 3: Who now we're talking, so I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know where I got fifteen thousand dollars right.

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Speaker 3: There was no talk about getting a tasering as well.

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Speaker 2: On that legislation, a tasering and a feathering.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: So it's a risky business that involved in it, certainly is.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess I'd be interested to know

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Speaker 13: Yes, good, the way to tell it if it's start again.

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Speaker 13: Most cars these days don't have a service log because

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Speaker 7: So every time a car.

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Speaker 2: It's amazings are logged in.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so every every European can't probably every major Japanese

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Speaker 13: you've got to have it serviced every twelve months or

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Speaker 13: That's got to be logged with Toyota in Japan. So

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Speaker 13: when my wheels fill off my Rare four and it's

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Speaker 13: It's all logged, even my even my Mercury outboard has logged.

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Speaker 2: There's no carry on no no, so you finished MIC

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Speaker 13: No, So it's across the board pretty much now to

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Speaker 2: Well, considering the large penalties that you get for tampering,

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Speaker 13: So you know, because if you took it in for

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Speaker 7: It just stops all the arguments.

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Speaker 3: So that's good to know. Yeah, that's good to know

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Speaker 4: But for dealers, if they're importing, do you not you

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Speaker 13: No, no, no. But if you're a dealer, which I

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Speaker 7: You have to suspect why.

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Speaker 13: grand cheap and any other one that's been sold lately,

441
00:20:45,693 --> 00:20:48,733
Speaker 13: And it's because there's a suspicion about it. So you know,

442
00:20:48,733 --> 00:20:50,893
Speaker 13: I know people used to buy cars out of Singapore.

443
00:20:51,053 --> 00:20:53,213
Speaker 13: They knew they were all clocked, they just didn't care.

444
00:20:53,093 --> 00:20:54,213
Speaker 3: To look right.

445
00:20:54,533 --> 00:20:57,133
Speaker 4: Fascinating Mike. Thank you, yeah, thank you very much for

446
00:20:57,133 --> 00:20:59,453
Speaker 4: giving us a much. I really appreciate your expertees. Oh

447
00:20:59,533 --> 00:21:02,373
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty eighty is the number to call.

448
00:21:02,453 --> 00:21:03,653
Speaker 4: Love to you your thoughts about this.

449
00:21:03,933 --> 00:21:06,013
Speaker 2: Hi, Matt, I too was annoyed when I was ten

450
00:21:06,133 --> 00:21:09,532
Speaker 2: or so years old watching Forrest Builder's Day Off and

451
00:21:09,613 --> 00:21:12,133
Speaker 2: saying that's never going to work with the putting it

452
00:21:12,213 --> 00:21:16,013
Speaker 2: up on stocks at Cam's house up in that beautiful

453
00:21:16,333 --> 00:21:18,573
Speaker 2: show garage after they'd stolen the carf borrowed the car

454
00:21:18,693 --> 00:21:21,693
Speaker 2: for the whole whole day. I was also annoyed that

455
00:21:21,733 --> 00:21:26,693
Speaker 2: they wrecked such a beautiful car, a two fifty California Ferrari,

456
00:21:26,773 --> 00:21:29,413
Speaker 2: for a movie. Luckily, my eagle eyed car nut brother

457
00:21:29,453 --> 00:21:31,453
Speaker 2: had already noted that it was a replica because it

458
00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:36,933
Speaker 2: had British Smith's brand gaugees and not the correct Italian brand.

459
00:21:37,093 --> 00:21:39,293
Speaker 2: Cheers Andrew, Well, that is an e called eye.

460
00:21:39,333 --> 00:21:40,333
Speaker 3: Brother could spot him.

461
00:21:40,413 --> 00:21:43,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it just fires out the back. Absolutely beautiful

462
00:21:43,293 --> 00:21:46,213
Speaker 2: car that got put through its paces by the valet.

463
00:21:47,213 --> 00:21:49,493
Speaker 2: Someone else is asking who played the valet in that movie?

464
00:21:50,573 --> 00:21:51,213
Speaker 3: Great quiestion.

465
00:21:51,293 --> 00:21:54,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Fairest Buller's Day Off. What a love story

466
00:21:54,973 --> 00:21:59,133
Speaker 2: to Chicago and just such a great, great, great movie.

467
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

468
00:22:01,813 --> 00:22:03,933
Speaker 4: to call if you're a mechanic, if you're a dealer,

469
00:22:04,173 --> 00:22:07,093
Speaker 4: if you've imported from Japan before. In terms of a vehicle.

470
00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:11,733
Speaker 4: Loved to hear from you, it is twenty eight two.

471
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Speaker 14: Jus talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

472
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Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Supreme Courts hearing

473
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Speaker 14: an appeal from convicted double murderer David Tomahetty, looking into

474
00:22:22,213 --> 00:22:25,693
Speaker 14: miscarriages of justice in his first trial. He served almost

475
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Speaker 14: twenty years in jail for the murders of two Swedish

476
00:22:28,373 --> 00:22:31,933
Speaker 14: tourists in the Corimandel. Kiwis are cutting borrowing as our

477
00:22:31,973 --> 00:22:35,293
Speaker 14: collective debt reaches eight hundred and seventy billion dollars for

478
00:22:35,333 --> 00:22:38,653
Speaker 14: the year ending May, five point four percent higher than

479
00:22:38,733 --> 00:22:42,973
Speaker 14: last year. The Corrections Association says increasing community violence is

480
00:22:43,013 --> 00:22:46,973
Speaker 14: flowing into the prisons, with eleven spring Hill inmates setting

481
00:22:47,013 --> 00:22:50,413
Speaker 14: fires and refusing to leave an exercise yard on Saturday.

482
00:22:50,933 --> 00:22:54,293
Speaker 14: It says beds are running out, increasing tension because prisoners

483
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Speaker 14: can't be moved around. And Ryland Ferry and the Other

484
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Speaker 14: Tedy is making her final sailing across the Cook Strait.

485
00:23:00,973 --> 00:23:04,213
Speaker 14: He lasts hurrah before being sold off. Work on port

486
00:23:04,293 --> 00:23:08,173
Speaker 14: infrastructure will begin at her birth to accommodate new ships arriving.

487
00:23:08,173 --> 00:23:11,853
Speaker 14: In twenty twenty nine. Auckland City Mission's opened to dental

488
00:23:11,893 --> 00:23:14,653
Speaker 14: clinic for homeless people three days a week with hopes

489
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Speaker 14: it can expand. Plus Natural Health Group flor Ends has

490
00:23:18,413 --> 00:23:21,653
Speaker 14: launched a takeover bit from Manuka Honey Export a Comfita.

491
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Speaker 14: Get the full story it ends it here ONLD Premium.

492
00:23:24,493 --> 00:23:25,693
Speaker 14: Now back to Masson Tyler.

493
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Wendy. It's twenty five to two.

494
00:23:28,613 --> 00:23:31,373
Speaker 2: So we're talking about rolling dometers up back and when

495
00:23:31,413 --> 00:23:34,853
Speaker 2: you do that, people immediately think about their fantastic John

496
00:23:34,933 --> 00:23:38,333
Speaker 2: Hughes movie Forest Bueller's day off. And you can't mention

497
00:23:38,493 --> 00:23:42,613
Speaker 2: Forres Bueller's day off without playing this quote here, one

498
00:23:42,613 --> 00:23:44,573
Speaker 2: of the greatest quotes from a movie of all time.

499
00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:48,973
Speaker 7: Yep, I said it before, and I'll see it again.

500
00:23:50,133 --> 00:23:51,493
Speaker 7: Life moves pretty fast.

501
00:23:52,253 --> 00:23:54,213
Speaker 15: You don't stop and look around once in a while,

502
00:23:54,773 --> 00:23:55,573
Speaker 15: you could miss it.

503
00:24:02,293 --> 00:24:04,733
Speaker 3: A movie that's so good. I get Goosey's listening to that.

504
00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:07,413
Speaker 2: Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look

505
00:24:07,453 --> 00:24:10,053
Speaker 2: around once in a while, you could miss it. That's

506
00:24:10,093 --> 00:24:10,893
Speaker 2: advice for life.

507
00:24:10,933 --> 00:24:13,053
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

508
00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:15,653
Speaker 4: number to call. How easy is it to wind back

509
00:24:15,693 --> 00:24:17,693
Speaker 4: an odometer? We're talking about this because there was a

510
00:24:17,693 --> 00:24:20,733
Speaker 4: big police sting where they found one hundred and thirty

511
00:24:20,773 --> 00:24:23,573
Speaker 4: three cars in New Zealand that were imported from Japan

512
00:24:23,893 --> 00:24:25,653
Speaker 4: that had their odometer tampered with.

513
00:24:25,893 --> 00:24:28,133
Speaker 2: Back in the nineties, says Jem I wound the clock

514
00:24:28,213 --> 00:24:31,052
Speaker 2: back on a Diesel Toyota station Wagon for my student

515
00:24:31,093 --> 00:24:34,133
Speaker 2: brother who had gone one hundred and fifty thousand kilometers

516
00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:37,653
Speaker 2: over the runs. No, fifteen thousand kilometers over the run. Sorry,

517
00:24:37,933 --> 00:24:40,013
Speaker 2: I found when I pulled the dash out there was

518
00:24:40,053 --> 00:24:42,533
Speaker 2: an extra clip to reset the number roll they were

519
00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:43,733
Speaker 2: designed to be wound back.

520
00:24:44,293 --> 00:24:45,693
Speaker 3: That seems very easy.

521
00:24:45,973 --> 00:24:48,213
Speaker 2: My brother in law just paid, has made one hundred

522
00:24:48,213 --> 00:24:51,013
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars to correct his digital speedometer by ten

523
00:24:51,053 --> 00:24:55,052
Speaker 2: thousand k. Apparently easily done with the right device.

524
00:24:55,053 --> 00:24:56,773
Speaker 3: One hundred and fifty bucks. That is cheap.

525
00:24:57,133 --> 00:24:59,573
Speaker 2: And look at Coller has rang and said that Section

526
00:24:59,973 --> 00:25:02,253
Speaker 2: two to eight of the Crimes Act applies, so you

527
00:25:02,293 --> 00:25:06,813
Speaker 2: are liable to imprisonment of up to seven years if

528
00:25:06,853 --> 00:25:08,693
Speaker 2: you roll the domin to back.

529
00:25:08,973 --> 00:25:10,693
Speaker 3: It's a good nudge in prison. Seven years.

530
00:25:10,973 --> 00:25:13,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure no one's ever got seven years with that.

531
00:25:13,293 --> 00:25:16,613
Speaker 4: No, but as you mentioned before, fifty k for an individual,

532
00:25:16,653 --> 00:25:20,733
Speaker 4: two hundred thousand bucks for an organization, as it should

533
00:25:20,733 --> 00:25:23,653
Speaker 4: be if you're caught demporary with an odo. Barry, how

534
00:25:23,653 --> 00:25:24,573
Speaker 4: are you this afternoon?

535
00:25:25,653 --> 00:25:26,333
Speaker 8: Good things?

536
00:25:26,653 --> 00:25:26,773
Speaker 7: Hey?

537
00:25:26,853 --> 00:25:29,093
Speaker 2: Yeck you? If you don't mind me asking, Barry, how

538
00:25:29,093 --> 00:25:29,532
Speaker 2: old are you?

539
00:25:31,213 --> 00:25:31,333
Speaker 5: Uh?

540
00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:33,613
Speaker 8: Sixty plus?

541
00:25:33,813 --> 00:25:36,173
Speaker 2: All right? Because I've got a son called Barry, you see,

542
00:25:36,173 --> 00:25:38,613
Speaker 2: and I always like to I always like to know

543
00:25:38,773 --> 00:25:40,733
Speaker 2: how you know how close an age they are to

544
00:25:40,813 --> 00:25:42,853
Speaker 2: my fifteen year old son called Barry.

545
00:25:43,253 --> 00:25:44,533
Speaker 8: I've got a wee bit of experience.

546
00:25:44,693 --> 00:25:46,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a strong name Barry.

547
00:25:46,573 --> 00:25:46,853
Speaker 7: I love it.

548
00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:51,293
Speaker 2: That's why I called my son Barry. Anyway, you're crumb,

549
00:25:51,493 --> 00:25:53,373
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well he was a great New Zealand way

550
00:25:53,373 --> 00:25:55,053
Speaker 2: absolutely yeah.

551
00:25:55,173 --> 00:25:58,093
Speaker 3: Now talk to us about Windy Beck the odometer Barry.

552
00:25:59,413 --> 00:26:04,253
Speaker 8: Well, my understanding is that you basically can't do it.

553
00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:09,173
Speaker 8: You can change the display in the car quite easily

554
00:26:09,293 --> 00:26:15,253
Speaker 8: using a fifteen dollars OMDB reading device from Timu or

555
00:26:15,293 --> 00:26:19,973
Speaker 8: Ali Baba or wherever, but that doesn't change the central computer.

556
00:26:20,773 --> 00:26:25,893
Speaker 8: So as soon as you go to do anything serious

557
00:26:26,013 --> 00:26:31,093
Speaker 8: at a dealership, reputable or otherwise, they can see that Hello,

558
00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:35,053
Speaker 8: the computers reading this in the display saying.

559
00:26:36,453 --> 00:26:36,773
Speaker 3: Right.

560
00:26:36,853 --> 00:26:40,453
Speaker 4: So very difficult to do in most instances. But you've

561
00:26:40,493 --> 00:26:42,373
Speaker 4: got a car with a bit of an interesting history

562
00:26:42,373 --> 00:26:42,653
Speaker 4: as well.

563
00:26:42,653 --> 00:26:49,613
Speaker 3: Bearing that's correct, yes, tell us more. What is the history?

564
00:26:49,853 --> 00:26:54,453
Speaker 8: Well, brought from Turner's guaranteed title of course and all

565
00:26:54,493 --> 00:26:59,253
Speaker 8: the rest of it, but ends it new middle of

566
00:26:59,333 --> 00:27:05,693
Speaker 8: last century, middle of last decade, but driven around for

567
00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:10,173
Speaker 8: forty thousand k's without a war off or regio because

568
00:27:10,173 --> 00:27:15,453
Speaker 8: of course they expire after six months. So I had

569
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Speaker 8: to go through revinning the vehicle, which is you think

570
00:27:21,733 --> 00:27:25,173
Speaker 8: being in z new and it was a reputable dealership

571
00:27:25,573 --> 00:27:29,693
Speaker 8: in zid New one of the big brands. You would

572
00:27:29,693 --> 00:27:32,333
Speaker 8: think it would be a rubberstamp exercise, but no, they

573
00:27:32,373 --> 00:27:34,733
Speaker 8: have to rip the seats out, you know, they have

574
00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:38,973
Speaker 8: to tear it apart basically. So three days later they

575
00:27:38,973 --> 00:27:42,653
Speaker 8: did that, revned it and what have you. But the

576
00:27:42,773 --> 00:27:46,293
Speaker 8: thought had occurred that obviously that was a prime candidate,

577
00:27:46,453 --> 00:27:50,813
Speaker 8: having done forty thousand k's warranted and unred o with

578
00:27:50,933 --> 00:27:56,812
Speaker 8: no history over that period to clock. Yeah, I mean

579
00:27:56,893 --> 00:28:01,292
Speaker 8: I investigated and you can't do it. You can change

580
00:28:01,333 --> 00:28:06,613
Speaker 8: the display in the car, but you can't change the

581
00:28:06,653 --> 00:28:14,053
Speaker 8: engine computer. It's ROIM read only memory.

582
00:28:13,853 --> 00:28:15,973
Speaker 2: Right, and so you might be able to so you

583
00:28:16,013 --> 00:28:18,133
Speaker 2: might be able to fool the person that's buying the car,

584
00:28:18,293 --> 00:28:20,853
Speaker 2: But if there's an investigation done, then it will be revealed.

585
00:28:21,893 --> 00:28:22,293
Speaker 7: Correct.

586
00:28:22,773 --> 00:28:25,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, well bough, thank you very much.

587
00:28:25,973 --> 00:28:28,773
Speaker 2: And event, of course, is a vehicle identification number in

588
00:28:28,813 --> 00:28:29,573
Speaker 2: case you didn't.

589
00:28:29,373 --> 00:28:29,973
Speaker 3: Know, thank you.

590
00:28:30,053 --> 00:28:32,093
Speaker 4: I didn't know that, but I have heard. It's a

591
00:28:32,093 --> 00:28:33,973
Speaker 4: massive process. You never want to go through a vent

592
00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:35,253
Speaker 4: because something will get picked up.

593
00:28:36,173 --> 00:28:39,813
Speaker 2: Mate's got a twenty eighteen Colorado and a twenty twenty

594
00:28:39,813 --> 00:28:43,093
Speaker 2: one Highluks fifty dollars for ten thousand kilometers off from

595
00:28:43,133 --> 00:28:43,853
Speaker 2: a mate.

596
00:28:44,373 --> 00:28:46,733
Speaker 3: That's it's a good deal one hundred.

597
00:28:46,973 --> 00:28:50,453
Speaker 2: Most new cars actually communicate directly with the manufacturer dealerships

598
00:28:50,493 --> 00:28:54,133
Speaker 2: and send regular data. We get called regularly from BMW

599
00:28:54,373 --> 00:28:56,893
Speaker 2: telling us our car needs X y Z from its

600
00:28:56,933 --> 00:28:58,213
Speaker 2: regular data transfers.

601
00:28:58,333 --> 00:28:58,533
Speaker 8: Yeah.

602
00:28:58,573 --> 00:28:59,053
Speaker 3: Interesting.

603
00:28:59,333 --> 00:29:01,653
Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

604
00:29:01,693 --> 00:29:04,973
Speaker 4: to call. It is nineteen to two. Back very surely.

605
00:29:04,973 --> 00:29:06,373
Speaker 4: But love to hear your stories.

606
00:29:07,893 --> 00:29:12,293
Speaker 1: You're home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons

607
00:29:12,293 --> 00:29:14,853
Speaker 1: call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

608
00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:17,493
Speaker 4: Say'd be for a good afternoon cheer. We're talking about

609
00:29:17,533 --> 00:29:20,453
Speaker 4: tampering with odometers. A big police sting discovered one hundred

610
00:29:20,453 --> 00:29:23,093
Speaker 4: and thirty three vehicles had been had been imported into

611
00:29:23,093 --> 00:29:26,973
Speaker 4: the country in twenty twenty that had suspicious odometers. They

612
00:29:26,973 --> 00:29:29,453
Speaker 4: were reported from Japan. But love to hear from you

613
00:29:29,493 --> 00:29:31,653
Speaker 4: if you're in the industry, if you're a mechanic, an

614
00:29:31,653 --> 00:29:34,373
Speaker 4: electrical mechanic, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

615
00:29:34,493 --> 00:29:37,773
Speaker 4: number to call. Good text here, Hi, Matt and Tyler.

616
00:29:37,813 --> 00:29:42,773
Speaker 4: Winding backspeedos has huge implications for rucks when rucks were introduced.

617
00:29:42,773 --> 00:29:47,333
Speaker 4: For trucks, it was required fitting Habad's omitter I think

618
00:29:47,413 --> 00:29:49,333
Speaker 4: is how you say it that could not be tampered with.

619
00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:52,773
Speaker 4: Can't imagine fitting a Hubbard dome to every car in

620
00:29:52,813 --> 00:29:53,813
Speaker 4: New Zealand from gym.

621
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:57,613
Speaker 2: Thanks for that, Jim. When I was seventeen, many decades ago,

622
00:29:57,693 --> 00:30:00,333
Speaker 2: says this text. I would use my dad's car now,

623
00:30:00,373 --> 00:30:02,533
Speaker 2: and then I knew he would check the trip meter,

624
00:30:02,733 --> 00:30:05,173
Speaker 2: so I thought I was onto it, so reset it

625
00:30:05,533 --> 00:30:07,613
Speaker 2: had to do two hundred kilometers that night with all

626
00:30:07,653 --> 00:30:09,853
Speaker 2: the boys to get it back just over from when

627
00:30:09,893 --> 00:30:12,733
Speaker 2: I left. Didn't realize you also checked the Your doometer

628
00:30:13,173 --> 00:30:16,133
Speaker 2: was busted the next day. Where the heck had you been?

629
00:30:16,253 --> 00:30:20,453
Speaker 2: Did you go last night? Chairs from Glenbrook? Oh, that's

630
00:30:20,493 --> 00:30:24,573
Speaker 2: a bit of it. It's a bit like the old well,

631
00:30:25,213 --> 00:30:27,293
Speaker 2: you know, topping up the vodka with water in the

632
00:30:27,373 --> 00:30:30,213
Speaker 2: Drenks cabinet, putting a bit of tea and the whiskey.

633
00:30:30,693 --> 00:30:32,733
Speaker 2: I hope it's never discovered and it's going, you see,

634
00:30:32,733 --> 00:30:34,373
Speaker 2: how are you going to push it with your rocket fuel?

635
00:30:34,813 --> 00:30:36,933
Speaker 2: When it comes to you know, in your dad's expense

636
00:30:37,013 --> 00:30:43,773
Speaker 2: of Scott is now seventy five percent Earl gray. Yeah,

637
00:30:43,773 --> 00:30:45,573
Speaker 2: you're liable to get in trouble. That's that. That's the

638
00:30:45,613 --> 00:30:46,293
Speaker 2: car equivalent.

639
00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:50,933
Speaker 3: Exactly eight hundred eighty is the number to call George.

640
00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:51,613
Speaker 3: How are you.

641
00:30:52,213 --> 00:30:54,773
Speaker 6: God, I've got four points here very quickly, if I

642
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:58,613
Speaker 6: may go for it. One is when you're driving a

643
00:30:58,773 --> 00:31:03,093
Speaker 6: car and you push the accelerator, The accelerator pedal hangs

644
00:31:03,173 --> 00:31:07,853
Speaker 6: most vehicles or all day today, hang down from the

645
00:31:07,853 --> 00:31:11,613
Speaker 6: top and your foot sits on the floor. So when

646
00:31:11,653 --> 00:31:15,613
Speaker 6: you push the accelerator, your shoe actually rubs against the

647
00:31:15,653 --> 00:31:18,813
Speaker 6: accelerator as you push it in and out. That means

648
00:31:18,813 --> 00:31:22,933
Speaker 6: the accelerator pedal slightly gets worn continually. If you buy

649
00:31:22,933 --> 00:31:24,653
Speaker 6: a car, have a look at it and see how

650
00:31:24,733 --> 00:31:27,853
Speaker 6: worn that pedal is, because if it's a low miles

651
00:31:28,053 --> 00:31:31,733
Speaker 6: high worn pedal, you've got a problem. The other thing

652
00:31:31,893 --> 00:31:36,013
Speaker 6: is the thing is your your right hand shoe ends

653
00:31:36,053 --> 00:31:38,653
Speaker 6: up getting worn as a result. And if you look

654
00:31:38,693 --> 00:31:41,173
Speaker 6: at your right hand shoe sole, usually it gets worn

655
00:31:41,173 --> 00:31:43,573
Speaker 6: out way faster than your left hand shoe.

656
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:45,333
Speaker 3: You might be onto something they're just having and we

657
00:31:45,373 --> 00:31:46,013
Speaker 3: look at the shoes.

658
00:31:47,573 --> 00:31:50,573
Speaker 2: So if the guy's saying it right, if there's twenty

659
00:31:50,613 --> 00:31:52,533
Speaker 2: thousand on the dometer, and the guy's got a hole

660
00:31:52,573 --> 00:31:53,133
Speaker 2: in the front of.

661
00:31:53,093 --> 00:31:58,333
Speaker 6: His worn out accelerator pedal problem.

662
00:31:58,133 --> 00:31:59,413
Speaker 2: And a hole on the shoe, then you've got a

663
00:31:59,413 --> 00:32:00,613
Speaker 2: problem shoe.

664
00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:03,933
Speaker 6: The second thing is if you're buying a car second

665
00:32:03,933 --> 00:32:07,573
Speaker 6: hand and your suspect about the speed dough ask them

666
00:32:07,613 --> 00:32:10,493
Speaker 6: for the speed will note it from your advertisement and

667
00:32:10,573 --> 00:32:14,013
Speaker 6: also the registration plate, take it to your local garage

668
00:32:14,013 --> 00:32:15,533
Speaker 6: and ask them to check it up on the warrant

669
00:32:15,613 --> 00:32:18,973
Speaker 6: fitness system to see what the speedo should be for

670
00:32:19,053 --> 00:32:21,533
Speaker 6: the time of year. You know, every six months. It's

671
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:24,013
Speaker 6: been noted on the warr and a fitness sheep, so

672
00:32:24,053 --> 00:32:27,413
Speaker 6: they'll soon tell you if it's right or wrong. If

673
00:32:27,453 --> 00:32:31,213
Speaker 6: someone is winding their speedo back and running it like that,

674
00:32:31,213 --> 00:32:33,293
Speaker 6: they have got no idea about the actual miles the

675
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:35,893
Speaker 6: motor's done, and they are actually wearing the motor out

676
00:32:35,973 --> 00:32:39,413
Speaker 6: if they're not servicing it correctly as a result. The

677
00:32:39,413 --> 00:32:43,413
Speaker 6: third thing is if you do have a vehicle that's

678
00:32:43,453 --> 00:32:47,053
Speaker 6: been imported, by the time it gets for sale, it's

679
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,853
Speaker 6: been through the end of TA then number and all

680
00:32:49,853 --> 00:32:53,333
Speaker 6: the rest of its certification checks, you will probably have

681
00:32:53,493 --> 00:32:56,813
Speaker 6: no way to find out if it's been previously wound

682
00:32:56,853 --> 00:32:59,933
Speaker 6: back possibly at the country that it came from, and

683
00:33:00,013 --> 00:33:03,653
Speaker 6: so your chances are very low. You just take the

684
00:33:03,653 --> 00:33:06,733
Speaker 6: gamble that you like the vehicle looks pretty. They've done

685
00:33:06,733 --> 00:33:08,813
Speaker 6: a repaint on it. Whis I looked at one vehicle

686
00:33:08,853 --> 00:33:11,853
Speaker 6: I had was an import. They totally repainted the vehicle

687
00:33:11,893 --> 00:33:13,893
Speaker 6: and everything. There was no way you could work out

688
00:33:14,293 --> 00:33:16,013
Speaker 6: how old the car actually was.

689
00:33:16,813 --> 00:33:19,453
Speaker 4: And that's the danger, right George, that if you individuals

690
00:33:19,493 --> 00:33:21,733
Speaker 4: are looking to import just a vehicle for themselves, and

691
00:33:21,773 --> 00:33:23,453
Speaker 4: it might be a lot cheaper from Japan than you're

692
00:33:23,453 --> 00:33:26,053
Speaker 4: going to go through that ADMIN. The warror is once

693
00:33:26,053 --> 00:33:28,253
Speaker 4: against to the country you go through the vin process.

694
00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:30,893
Speaker 4: Oh boom, we found out this car was dropped in

695
00:33:30,933 --> 00:33:32,813
Speaker 4: water at some stage, or it's been in a heavy

696
00:33:32,813 --> 00:33:35,213
Speaker 4: collision or had its OWO round back.

697
00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:37,533
Speaker 6: If you're buying a car from a country that's had

698
00:33:37,573 --> 00:33:40,973
Speaker 6: floods recently, you could well be getting a flood dangers

699
00:33:40,973 --> 00:33:44,053
Speaker 6: written off vehicle that's been redone up in that country

700
00:33:44,053 --> 00:33:45,373
Speaker 6: and now being sold in the Zealand.

701
00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:46,973
Speaker 3: Yep.

702
00:33:47,093 --> 00:33:52,613
Speaker 6: Interesting, You're electronic data of your speedo is being recorded

703
00:33:52,693 --> 00:33:56,093
Speaker 6: by your computer management system. And my guess is if

704
00:33:56,133 --> 00:33:58,733
Speaker 6: you've tried wine in the spiedo back. That change in

705
00:33:58,773 --> 00:34:01,293
Speaker 6: the speeder will also be logged in there is the

706
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:06,173
Speaker 6: new setting because it doesn't delete the logs, it stays

707
00:34:06,213 --> 00:34:09,453
Speaker 6: there as part of the computer. Now, one of the

708
00:34:09,493 --> 00:34:12,253
Speaker 6: issues is people change their computers from one vehicle to

709
00:34:12,293 --> 00:34:14,973
Speaker 6: another because they buy a secondhand one and they discover

710
00:34:15,013 --> 00:34:18,493
Speaker 6: it doesn't work because all the settings of in numbers

711
00:34:18,493 --> 00:34:22,213
Speaker 6: and everything for that computer says it's this car, but

712
00:34:22,453 --> 00:34:25,773
Speaker 6: your other computers in your present car says no, I'm

713
00:34:25,773 --> 00:34:27,693
Speaker 6: not on this one. So the whole thing grinds to

714
00:34:27,693 --> 00:34:30,053
Speaker 6: a whole So you can't just swap computers out.

715
00:34:30,693 --> 00:34:30,933
Speaker 7: Yeah.

716
00:34:31,013 --> 00:34:35,653
Speaker 6: Right, So I'm not sure about these guys that fiddle

717
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:39,652
Speaker 6: the speeder on a digital system because there's going to

718
00:34:39,693 --> 00:34:42,493
Speaker 6: be things in there record the fact that it's been fiddled,

719
00:34:42,813 --> 00:34:45,133
Speaker 6: and your insurance has just gone out the window.

720
00:34:45,653 --> 00:34:48,373
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean it seems like there's a lot

721
00:34:48,413 --> 00:34:50,613
Speaker 4: of risk involved in doing that sort of thing. But George,

722
00:34:50,653 --> 00:34:53,253
Speaker 4: thank you very much, really appreciate you giving us a buzz.

723
00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:54,533
Speaker 6: You're welcome.

724
00:34:54,653 --> 00:34:56,733
Speaker 4: Go Well, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

725
00:34:56,773 --> 00:34:59,373
Speaker 4: the number to call. It is eleven to two.

726
00:35:00,093 --> 00:35:02,253
Speaker 2: My dad just takes it through. Is that why I

727
00:35:02,293 --> 00:35:04,773
Speaker 2: struggle to get a buzz on from when you're about

728
00:35:04,773 --> 00:35:09,413
Speaker 2: fourteen onwards in regards to me from his liquor cabinet

729
00:35:09,453 --> 00:35:12,533
Speaker 2: and replacing it with tea water. Yeah, there's gin. That

730
00:35:12,653 --> 00:35:14,933
Speaker 2: was some good El Gray as gin took an absolute

731
00:35:14,933 --> 00:35:19,573
Speaker 2: pounding vodka everything. Actually, yeah, boy boy had a bad

732
00:35:19,653 --> 00:35:20,813
Speaker 2: night on a Southern comfort.

733
00:35:20,613 --> 00:35:24,692
Speaker 3: Though victimless crime. It is ten to two. Back very shortly.

734
00:35:26,973 --> 00:35:30,533
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

735
00:35:30,533 --> 00:35:33,053
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Taylor Adams

736
00:35:33,213 --> 00:35:34,733
Speaker 1: Afternoons news Talk.

737
00:35:34,573 --> 00:35:37,733
Speaker 3: Said me, very good afternoon to you.

738
00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:41,373
Speaker 4: It is eight to two and we're talking about winding

739
00:35:41,453 --> 00:35:43,933
Speaker 4: the odometer back. There was a big police sting found

740
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:45,733
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of cars in the country that it

741
00:35:45,973 --> 00:35:47,212
Speaker 4: had exactly that done.

742
00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:48,373
Speaker 3: How easy has it been?

743
00:35:48,573 --> 00:35:50,733
Speaker 2: You had a lot of trouble for doing that, Jamie.

744
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:51,733
Speaker 2: You welcome for the show.

745
00:35:53,013 --> 00:35:55,373
Speaker 16: Yeah, Ka, guys, So.

746
00:35:55,333 --> 00:35:57,413
Speaker 3: Tell us your story. You were in the industry in

747
00:35:57,453 --> 00:35:58,333
Speaker 3: the nineties.

748
00:35:57,973 --> 00:35:58,373
Speaker 7: Is that right?

749
00:35:59,253 --> 00:35:59,453
Speaker 17: Yeah.

750
00:35:59,613 --> 00:36:03,093
Speaker 16: While I was in the tyre industry, fellas and and

751
00:36:03,173 --> 00:36:05,493
Speaker 16: I think speed out flicking was probably a little bit

752
00:36:05,533 --> 00:36:09,293
Speaker 16: more rife back in the day. But I've got a

753
00:36:09,293 --> 00:36:13,173
Speaker 16: great story that actually didn't work out in favor of

754
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:17,933
Speaker 16: the dealer. I happened to be doing some work for

755
00:36:17,973 --> 00:36:19,973
Speaker 16: a dealer, doing some tires, and I came across a

756
00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:22,652
Speaker 16: vehicle that was in the yard and I was looking

757
00:36:22,693 --> 00:36:24,893
Speaker 16: at it and I thought, wow, this thing's incredible. And

758
00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:29,373
Speaker 16: on a tire there's a date code which is when

759
00:36:29,373 --> 00:36:31,573
Speaker 16: it was manufactured, at the date and the year it

760
00:36:31,613 --> 00:36:34,293
Speaker 16: was manufactured. And I looked at all the tires on

761
00:36:34,373 --> 00:36:36,413
Speaker 16: the vehicle and it was a four wheel drive, so

762
00:36:36,413 --> 00:36:38,013
Speaker 16: I'd had the spear on the back and that was

763
00:36:38,053 --> 00:36:41,453
Speaker 16: exactly the same, and all five had the same date code.

764
00:36:42,013 --> 00:36:45,013
Speaker 16: And I said to the dealer, I says, man, this

765
00:36:45,093 --> 00:36:47,812
Speaker 16: thing's like brand new. I mean the tires had only

766
00:36:47,893 --> 00:36:52,933
Speaker 16: just had the knobs run off them. And he said,

767
00:36:52,933 --> 00:36:54,933
Speaker 16: what do you mean And I said, well, look, these

768
00:36:54,973 --> 00:36:57,213
Speaker 16: tires are like brand new. And he says you're joking

769
00:36:57,293 --> 00:36:58,933
Speaker 16: and I said no, no, no, this thing must be

770
00:36:58,973 --> 00:37:01,453
Speaker 16: just about you. And he says, seeze, you've just cost

771
00:37:01,493 --> 00:37:04,333
Speaker 16: me cost me twenty grand And I said why is that?

772
00:37:04,373 --> 00:37:06,853
Speaker 16: And I says, well, when I bought it in Japan,

773
00:37:07,573 --> 00:37:11,293
Speaker 16: it had fourteen thousand k's on the clock. We figured

774
00:37:11,293 --> 00:37:13,652
Speaker 16: that they've done one hundred and fourteen thousand k's, so

775
00:37:13,733 --> 00:37:16,413
Speaker 16: we had them, had them flick it back to sixty.

776
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:20,053
Speaker 3: Back fine, and.

777
00:37:22,253 --> 00:37:25,533
Speaker 16: It turned out that this actually was almost brand new.

778
00:37:25,533 --> 00:37:29,212
Speaker 16: This actually only done fourteen thousand kilometers. So one way

779
00:37:29,253 --> 00:37:31,253
Speaker 16: to check if you are buying a vehicle that's not

780
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:36,053
Speaker 16: that old. There's a four digit date code on the tires,

781
00:37:36,053 --> 00:37:38,333
Speaker 16: and if the tires matched the year of the vehicle,

782
00:37:38,373 --> 00:37:41,933
Speaker 16: all five of them, then chances are the mileage is

783
00:37:41,973 --> 00:37:43,813
Speaker 16: pretty accurate. Obviously that's not going to work of a

784
00:37:43,853 --> 00:37:46,173
Speaker 16: tad new tires put on, but that's just a I

785
00:37:46,173 --> 00:37:47,453
Speaker 16: thought that's a great week story.

786
00:37:47,693 --> 00:37:49,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fantastic way to thank you so much

787
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:50,573
Speaker 2: for sharing, Jamie.

788
00:37:50,653 --> 00:37:51,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

789
00:37:52,213 --> 00:37:55,692
Speaker 4: Nine ninety two is the text number a couple of

790
00:37:55,733 --> 00:37:56,533
Speaker 4: texts here.

791
00:37:57,493 --> 00:38:00,453
Speaker 2: The so called KM sticker on windscreen is often lies.

792
00:38:01,933 --> 00:38:04,053
Speaker 2: The importers are bloody smart, trust me.

793
00:38:04,373 --> 00:38:05,413
Speaker 3: Yeah.

794
00:38:05,453 --> 00:38:07,813
Speaker 4: In this one, guys, I had a Ford Curier two

795
00:38:07,813 --> 00:38:09,533
Speaker 4: thousand and it's all I had to do was crawl

796
00:38:09,613 --> 00:38:13,893
Speaker 4: underneath on my back and not unplug it. But Jimmy,

797
00:38:13,973 --> 00:38:17,692
Speaker 4: the odometer plugs slightly and it wounds it back. That's

798
00:38:17,693 --> 00:38:19,333
Speaker 4: from Robbo Easy as.

799
00:38:19,493 --> 00:38:21,773
Speaker 2: Someone was saying that what you do is you just

800
00:38:22,013 --> 00:38:27,413
Speaker 2: find a complete dash and everything from a car with

801
00:38:27,493 --> 00:38:30,533
Speaker 2: a lower reading the dominator, and just replace a domitter

802
00:38:30,613 --> 00:38:31,973
Speaker 2: and just replace the whole whole thing.

803
00:38:32,093 --> 00:38:33,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense. Just rip it out and get a

804
00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:35,772
Speaker 3: brand new one. A get a guys.

805
00:38:35,853 --> 00:38:37,733
Speaker 4: Years ago, I was trying to sell my old Commodore.

806
00:38:37,773 --> 00:38:39,973
Speaker 4: I had done three hundred and twenty thousand k's and

807
00:38:40,053 --> 00:38:41,652
Speaker 4: neck it couldn't move it, and Mate told me to

808
00:38:41,693 --> 00:38:44,252
Speaker 4: wind the clock back to sixty thousand k's. He asked

809
00:38:44,253 --> 00:38:46,293
Speaker 4: me a few weeks later how I was getting on

810
00:38:46,373 --> 00:38:48,172
Speaker 4: selling it selling it? I asked, why would I want

811
00:38:48,173 --> 00:38:50,093
Speaker 4: to sell it? It's only done sixty thousands.

812
00:38:51,013 --> 00:38:53,293
Speaker 2: So while rolling back the domitters is getting harder and

813
00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:56,053
Speaker 2: harder as the cars talk to their manufacturers. That we've

814
00:38:56,093 --> 00:38:58,333
Speaker 2: seem but obviously you shouldn't do it anyway, right, because

815
00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:01,533
Speaker 2: it's fraud and a moral and also you will get

816
00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:03,813
Speaker 2: a mass of fine and end up in prison. And

817
00:39:03,973 --> 00:39:06,933
Speaker 2: one thing is sure for sure, we've learning this hour.

818
00:39:07,013 --> 00:39:09,413
Speaker 2: Don't do what Cam from your Spieler's day off did

819
00:39:09,453 --> 00:39:12,733
Speaker 2: and put your dad's vintage Ferrari on stocks and shove

820
00:39:12,773 --> 00:39:17,733
Speaker 2: it into reverse. That that was never gonna work. I

821
00:39:17,773 --> 00:39:18,172
Speaker 2: can't wait.

822
00:39:18,373 --> 00:39:20,172
Speaker 3: You'll look on the bastard space.

823
00:39:30,173 --> 00:39:32,373
Speaker 2: Horrific to watch. But apparently it was a replica.

824
00:39:32,493 --> 00:39:34,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know he had it in in cam.

825
00:39:34,693 --> 00:39:37,853
Speaker 4: Fantastic movie and what a great chat. Thank you very much.

826
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:41,573
Speaker 4: Coming up after two o'clock where you donor conceived a

827
00:39:41,573 --> 00:39:43,453
Speaker 4: great story in the Herald Today we are going to

828
00:39:43,453 --> 00:39:46,053
Speaker 4: have a chat to the author Rachel Mayer. But keen

829
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:47,813
Speaker 4: to hear your stories as well. Oh eight one hundred

830
00:39:47,813 --> 00:39:49,573
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty nine to nine too. It is

831
00:39:49,573 --> 00:39:52,013
Speaker 4: the text number new Sporting Weather coming up. You're listening

832
00:39:52,013 --> 00:39:53,013
Speaker 4: to Matt and Tyler.

833
00:39:54,493 --> 00:39:58,293
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

834
00:39:58,373 --> 00:40:00,133
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

835
00:40:00,173 --> 00:40:04,093
Speaker 4: It'd be very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show.

836
00:40:04,133 --> 00:40:06,453
Speaker 4: It is seven pass two. This is going to be

837
00:40:06,453 --> 00:40:09,293
Speaker 4: a really interesting hour. How can you I know if

838
00:40:09,413 --> 00:40:11,133
Speaker 4: you are who you are, rather if you don't know

839
00:40:11,173 --> 00:40:13,533
Speaker 4: where you came from? That was the question that spoon

840
00:40:13,613 --> 00:40:16,333
Speaker 4: New Zealand Herald reporter Rachel Mayer to embark on a

841
00:40:16,373 --> 00:40:18,933
Speaker 4: journey to find the other half of her DNA. It's

842
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:20,293
Speaker 4: on the Herald now you can give it a read.

843
00:40:20,613 --> 00:40:24,253
Speaker 4: It is a lovely story but fascinating her trying to

844
00:40:24,773 --> 00:40:28,373
Speaker 4: track down her biological farmer, a father who was a

845
00:40:28,413 --> 00:40:28,973
Speaker 4: spoon diner.

846
00:40:29,213 --> 00:40:32,173
Speaker 2: Yes, so are you in a similar situation? Have you

847
00:40:32,173 --> 00:40:34,533
Speaker 2: been involved in this? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

848
00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:37,373
Speaker 2: would love to shar some stories of donor conceived children.

849
00:40:38,013 --> 00:40:41,893
Speaker 2: Have you had one? Are you one? And look, as

850
00:40:41,933 --> 00:40:45,133
Speaker 2: I said before, having children is an amazing thing, you know,

851
00:40:45,173 --> 00:40:47,613
Speaker 2: as I was saying, for me, being a dad has

852
00:40:47,653 --> 00:40:50,533
Speaker 2: been the most important thing in my life. Not everyone

853
00:40:50,573 --> 00:40:53,413
Speaker 2: wants to be a parent, but for me, it's been incredible.

854
00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:56,772
Speaker 2: I've defined myself as a dad first for everything else.

855
00:40:56,853 --> 00:41:01,373
Speaker 2: So if you want that and can't have it, then

856
00:41:01,413 --> 00:41:04,253
Speaker 2: this is obviously a great option. It can be a

857
00:41:04,293 --> 00:41:06,973
Speaker 2: beautiful thing to find out. And this story is really, really,

858
00:41:07,013 --> 00:41:10,133
Speaker 2: really amazing, and I encourage you to read the article

859
00:41:10,133 --> 00:41:13,293
Speaker 2: in the Herald. But there are also some problems with

860
00:41:13,333 --> 00:41:18,533
Speaker 2: it as well, and potential potential horror stories. Yeah, oh,

861
00:41:18,693 --> 00:41:19,732
Speaker 2: one hundred eighty ten eighty.

862
00:41:20,093 --> 00:41:22,652
Speaker 4: If you have been donor conceived and you went through

863
00:41:22,653 --> 00:41:25,013
Speaker 4: that journey yourself, or indeed, if you were a SPOM

864
00:41:25,093 --> 00:41:28,053
Speaker 4: donor and somebody contacted you, we'd love to hear your

865
00:41:28,093 --> 00:41:30,413
Speaker 4: stories on Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

866
00:41:30,413 --> 00:41:32,252
Speaker 4: your text through nine two ninety two his.

867
00:41:32,253 --> 00:41:34,413
Speaker 2: Text he just came through. Thank God for modern science,

868
00:41:34,453 --> 00:41:37,533
Speaker 2: families being able to have kids that would be able

869
00:41:37,573 --> 00:41:40,172
Speaker 2: to this stoner situation is a beautiful thing. A friend

870
00:41:40,213 --> 00:41:44,773
Speaker 2: of mine had cancer, got blasted and couldn't have kids

871
00:41:44,813 --> 00:41:49,893
Speaker 2: because of it. He survived, then their donu option came up.

872
00:41:49,933 --> 00:41:52,133
Speaker 2: He now has three amazing children and is the best,

873
00:41:52,133 --> 00:41:56,133
Speaker 2: most grateful father you could imagine. Shout out to Eddie

874
00:41:56,173 --> 00:41:57,893
Speaker 2: if he's listening. He's a big fan of your show.

875
00:41:57,933 --> 00:42:01,053
Speaker 2: It's chocky here. If he's listening, he'll know who I

876
00:42:01,093 --> 00:42:01,973
Speaker 2: am proud of you.

877
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Speaker 7: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lovely story.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

880
00:42:05,893 --> 00:42:07,252
Speaker 4: and coming up we are going to have a chat

881
00:42:07,293 --> 00:42:09,773
Speaker 4: to Rachel Mayer who told her story in the Herold.

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Speaker 4: That is coming up, but we're keen to hear your

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Speaker 4: stories as well. It is ten past two.

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Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: So, how can you know who you are? If you

887
00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:27,252
Speaker 3: don't know where you came from.

888
00:42:27,253 --> 00:42:30,253
Speaker 4: That was the question that this year spurned Herald reporter

889
00:42:30,573 --> 00:42:32,773
Speaker 4: Rachel Mayer to embark on a journey to find the

890
00:42:32,813 --> 00:42:35,692
Speaker 4: other half of her at DNA. Her story is up

891
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Speaker 4: on the Herald right now. The headline is my donor

892
00:42:37,933 --> 00:42:40,493
Speaker 4: and me What it was like meeting my sperm donor

893
00:42:40,533 --> 00:42:43,493
Speaker 4: after years of wondering. It's a great read. And Rachel

894
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Speaker 4: joins us in the studio right now. Hi, Rachel, Hey guys.

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Speaker 2: Now, Rachel, can you take us back to when you

896
00:42:48,413 --> 00:42:51,813
Speaker 2: were eight years old and first learned you were donor conceived?

897
00:42:52,533 --> 00:42:54,133
Speaker 2: How did that hit you as a child.

898
00:42:54,373 --> 00:42:57,853
Speaker 18: Well, it is recommended eight years old is like the bear,

899
00:42:58,573 --> 00:43:02,573
Speaker 18: the earliest age you should be telling kids, because before

900
00:43:02,653 --> 00:43:05,693
Speaker 18: then they don't really have any sense of people coming

901
00:43:05,733 --> 00:43:07,613
Speaker 18: from anywhere, you know what I mean. Man, you're only

902
00:43:07,773 --> 00:43:10,212
Speaker 18: just saying to be like, where do babies come from?

903
00:43:10,253 --> 00:43:12,133
Speaker 18: And things like that, and you're only just starting to

904
00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:14,173
Speaker 18: get a sense of self, And so they recommend it

905
00:43:14,213 --> 00:43:16,933
Speaker 18: before you start kind of building up any kind of

906
00:43:16,933 --> 00:43:19,893
Speaker 18: wider sense of self about who you are. That's when

907
00:43:19,893 --> 00:43:23,413
Speaker 18: you explain it then. And so it wasn't exactly earth shattering.

908
00:43:23,493 --> 00:43:25,533
Speaker 18: I write and my piece that we were told and

909
00:43:25,533 --> 00:43:27,533
Speaker 18: when my parents said, you know, go to McDonald's, and

910
00:43:27,533 --> 00:43:29,133
Speaker 18: they distracted us with tapping meals and we went on

911
00:43:29,173 --> 00:43:31,692
Speaker 18: our merry way. And it wasn't until I was about

912
00:43:31,693 --> 00:43:35,133
Speaker 18: a liven when I started looking at my friend's parents

913
00:43:35,133 --> 00:43:38,373
Speaker 18: and being out and being really curious at putting together

914
00:43:38,373 --> 00:43:40,813
Speaker 18: the different parts of them that made them up, and

915
00:43:40,853 --> 00:43:43,053
Speaker 18: feeling quite sad I couldn't do the same. And I

916
00:43:43,093 --> 00:43:46,133
Speaker 18: was also obsessed with show Missing Pieces with David Lomas,

917
00:43:47,413 --> 00:43:50,973
Speaker 18: fantastic show, and I would picture myself like going through

918
00:43:51,013 --> 00:43:53,693
Speaker 18: it with David Lomas and finding my sperm donor with

919
00:43:54,093 --> 00:43:57,893
Speaker 18: Prance across the field together and race this big hug

920
00:43:58,013 --> 00:44:00,053
Speaker 18: with the big music and all of that.

921
00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:04,133
Speaker 2: So you talk about wondering and worrying about who your

922
00:44:04,213 --> 00:44:07,293
Speaker 2: donor might be as you got older from a what

923
00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:10,573
Speaker 2: were your concerns and fears.

924
00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:12,613
Speaker 18: Well, it's really the basis of why I decided to

925
00:44:12,653 --> 00:44:16,533
Speaker 18: share the story, because when you research anything to do

926
00:44:16,573 --> 00:44:20,093
Speaker 18: with donor linking, there's very few positive stories. They're kind

927
00:44:20,133 --> 00:44:23,693
Speaker 18: of considered boring. It's always Oh, I found out my

928
00:44:23,733 --> 00:44:27,613
Speaker 18: sperm Dina was a crazed scientist fathered five hundred children

929
00:44:27,653 --> 00:44:30,053
Speaker 18: like all the documentary said or the other horror story.

930
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Speaker 18: One that I really was really anxious about was the

931
00:44:33,493 --> 00:44:35,133
Speaker 18: ones of marrying your half brother.

932
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Speaker 2: Or sis sister. These stories.

933
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Speaker 18: Yes, So in twenty nineteen I reached out to tell

934
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Speaker 18: your associates to ask, you know, do I have any

935
00:44:43,853 --> 00:44:46,652
Speaker 18: half siblings floating around out there? And I found out

936
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Speaker 18: that I had a half sister born in the same

937
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Speaker 18: year as me, two thousand and a half brother born

938
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Speaker 18: in two thousand and one, wow, to two separate families.

939
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Speaker 18: And from then on I just didn't date anyone for.

940
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Speaker 3: That was my work around.

941
00:44:58,653 --> 00:45:01,652
Speaker 2: This must be must have been a complex part. How

942
00:45:01,693 --> 00:45:04,093
Speaker 2: did you decide what to say in the first letter?

943
00:45:04,213 --> 00:45:07,493
Speaker 2: And how did you address Well, we'll find out soon

944
00:45:07,493 --> 00:45:09,413
Speaker 2: his name is Wayne, But how did you address Wayne

945
00:45:09,453 --> 00:45:10,172
Speaker 2: in the first letter?

946
00:45:10,413 --> 00:45:13,933
Speaker 18: What do you say? Donut to who? Maybe my father?

947
00:45:14,173 --> 00:45:15,013
Speaker 18: Are you out there?

948
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:15,253
Speaker 8: Like?

949
00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:17,773
Speaker 18: It was just a you know, speaking to the void.

950
00:45:18,133 --> 00:45:20,853
Speaker 18: So I just said, cured her. I have had these

951
00:45:20,853 --> 00:45:23,253
Speaker 18: three pieces of paper on you. It says zero identifiable.

952
00:45:24,613 --> 00:45:27,293
Speaker 18: I hope that's still the case. I just kept my

953
00:45:27,373 --> 00:45:30,973
Speaker 18: information really really brief. I am a journalist, and that

954
00:45:30,973 --> 00:45:32,733
Speaker 18: can be quite a controversial job. Who knows, And I

955
00:45:32,733 --> 00:45:34,652
Speaker 18: don't know who this man was. We sre half you know,

956
00:45:34,733 --> 00:45:37,053
Speaker 18: I have it half as DNA, but he's a perfect stranger.

957
00:45:37,813 --> 00:45:40,173
Speaker 18: He could have changed a lot since he donated who knows,

958
00:45:40,693 --> 00:45:43,533
Speaker 18: And so it was just really really brief, just like

959
00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:45,013
Speaker 18: please reply if you want.

960
00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:48,252
Speaker 4: To, not just like please yeah, And then you got

961
00:45:48,253 --> 00:45:50,093
Speaker 4: a response back from Wayne.

962
00:45:50,653 --> 00:45:52,813
Speaker 3: How did you feel when you got that letter back?

963
00:45:53,133 --> 00:45:55,373
Speaker 18: Did not expect to be as emotional as I did,

964
00:45:55,453 --> 00:45:57,293
Speaker 18: and I think I didn't. I put a lot of

965
00:45:57,293 --> 00:45:59,853
Speaker 18: my fears just to the back of my brain when

966
00:45:59,853 --> 00:46:01,692
Speaker 18: I started the process, and when I opened it up,

967
00:46:01,813 --> 00:46:04,853
Speaker 18: it was immediately clear that he was just the loveliest,

968
00:46:05,133 --> 00:46:07,013
Speaker 18: kindest guy. I think one of the words was like

969
00:46:07,213 --> 00:46:10,293
Speaker 18: something I dreamed of had finally signed to Beer Fruit.

970
00:46:10,413 --> 00:46:12,772
Speaker 18: He was just so excited that I reached out to him.

971
00:46:13,093 --> 00:46:17,173
Speaker 18: And coincidentally, just the week I had sent my letter,

972
00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:19,693
Speaker 18: he had moved recently to Tims from living in the

973
00:46:20,173 --> 00:46:22,373
Speaker 18: from other part of White Coat of Ages, and he

974
00:46:22,493 --> 00:46:25,653
Speaker 18: had reached out to Fertility Associates to reupdate his information

975
00:46:25,733 --> 00:46:27,893
Speaker 18: from then and he got a call back. So he

976
00:46:27,933 --> 00:46:30,453
Speaker 18: was expecting it but to be like, oh, something was

977
00:46:30,613 --> 00:46:32,933
Speaker 18: ented wrong, but it was actually that that had my letter,

978
00:46:33,013 --> 00:46:35,692
Speaker 18: and he was just beyond shocked. He told me later

979
00:46:35,773 --> 00:46:37,853
Speaker 18: like he was crying when I got his letter.

980
00:46:37,933 --> 00:46:40,093
Speaker 3: I cried, like very emotional. Was gorgeous.

981
00:46:40,693 --> 00:46:43,413
Speaker 2: So you first saw what he look like in a photo?

982
00:46:43,533 --> 00:46:44,173
Speaker 2: Was that correct?

983
00:46:44,453 --> 00:46:44,853
Speaker 19: Yeah?

984
00:46:44,893 --> 00:46:48,373
Speaker 2: And did did you immediately recognize parts of yourself and him?

985
00:46:48,453 --> 00:46:51,693
Speaker 18: It was nuts. I can't explain the experience to a

986
00:46:51,733 --> 00:46:54,933
Speaker 18: single other person. You have to go through yourself. I

987
00:46:54,933 --> 00:46:57,333
Speaker 18: had found out his first his full name through an email,

988
00:46:57,773 --> 00:46:59,813
Speaker 18: and I wanted to wait to see him in person,

989
00:46:59,853 --> 00:47:02,853
Speaker 18: but I two sleepless nights later, I just could not wait,

990
00:47:03,453 --> 00:47:05,573
Speaker 18: and so I researched a photo and I was actually

991
00:47:05,613 --> 00:47:08,253
Speaker 18: at my desk and I lipped back a sort of

992
00:47:08,373 --> 00:47:10,053
Speaker 18: I saw him because my eyes were staring back at

993
00:47:10,053 --> 00:47:12,573
Speaker 18: me the exact same color I have. My eyes are

994
00:47:12,573 --> 00:47:14,652
Speaker 18: slightly different shapes, which I just thought was like some

995
00:47:15,173 --> 00:47:18,333
Speaker 18: you know, something not genetic. But he has that exact

996
00:47:18,373 --> 00:47:22,253
Speaker 18: same thing, the same smile. It was absolutely insane.

997
00:47:22,973 --> 00:47:25,732
Speaker 4: And your parents went on to meet Wayne as well.

998
00:47:25,933 --> 00:47:27,853
Speaker 4: What was that meeting? Like, I mean, you told that

999
00:47:27,893 --> 00:47:30,573
Speaker 4: beautiful story about how your mum reacted, but that must

1000
00:47:30,573 --> 00:47:32,732
Speaker 4: have been quite full on for them as well.

1001
00:47:33,053 --> 00:47:35,093
Speaker 18: Yeah, So we went and we met him at Mission

1002
00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:38,213
Speaker 18: Bay with my older brother and my twin sister who obviously.

1003
00:47:38,013 --> 00:47:39,813
Speaker 2: So was this the first meeting with them? Yeah, they

1004
00:47:39,853 --> 00:47:40,733
Speaker 2: came to the first meeting.

1005
00:47:40,893 --> 00:47:42,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I met them.

1006
00:47:43,653 --> 00:47:46,413
Speaker 18: I met with him, Me and my siblings met with

1007
00:47:46,493 --> 00:47:48,813
Speaker 18: him independently for like half an hour just beside the fountain,

1008
00:47:48,893 --> 00:47:51,533
Speaker 18: and then we met up with my parents at the

1009
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:54,733
Speaker 18: at a restaurant nearby. And I did that just because I, again,

1010
00:47:54,813 --> 00:47:57,053
Speaker 18: he was a stranger to me. I'd emailed him, I

1011
00:47:57,133 --> 00:48:00,213
Speaker 18: texted him and things, but I just wanted to include

1012
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:02,613
Speaker 18: my entire family in that. And you just never know

1013
00:48:03,093 --> 00:48:05,253
Speaker 18: when you're entering into this. You don't know what the

1014
00:48:05,333 --> 00:48:09,333
Speaker 18: other people's expectations are. I didn't know it time if

1015
00:48:09,373 --> 00:48:11,533
Speaker 18: he thought he was going to take a fatherly role

1016
00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:13,453
Speaker 18: in my life, and so I kind of wanted to

1017
00:48:13,453 --> 00:48:14,893
Speaker 18: bring my dad there to be like I already have

1018
00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:17,733
Speaker 18: a dad, but ended up being not a worrit or.

1019
00:48:17,773 --> 00:48:19,213
Speaker 18: He doesn't want to take that kind of role. He

1020
00:48:19,333 --> 00:48:21,453
Speaker 18: just wanted to meet me, and you know, see what

1021
00:48:21,773 --> 00:48:22,613
Speaker 18: we came out to be.

1022
00:48:22,933 --> 00:48:28,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So talk us through how you feel now compared

1023
00:48:28,053 --> 00:48:30,373
Speaker 2: to how you did before meeting Wayne.

1024
00:48:31,213 --> 00:48:35,933
Speaker 18: I kind of waited until I didn't feel like I

1025
00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:37,613
Speaker 18: was going to be a kind of missing part of

1026
00:48:37,613 --> 00:48:39,053
Speaker 18: myself to do it, because I didn't want to go

1027
00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:42,333
Speaker 18: out and look for him with some kind of ulterior

1028
00:48:42,453 --> 00:48:44,893
Speaker 18: motive or anything like that. But after the fact, I

1029
00:48:44,933 --> 00:48:48,493
Speaker 18: definitely feel like I know myself better. It's it's there's

1030
00:48:48,493 --> 00:48:50,453
Speaker 18: a lot of talking Maldi principles about knowing who you

1031
00:48:50,493 --> 00:48:52,613
Speaker 18: are and your fucker papa, and I think that's kind

1032
00:48:52,653 --> 00:48:55,373
Speaker 18: of what I've discovered and what's really really important for

1033
00:48:55,413 --> 00:48:57,013
Speaker 18: me to go on now and live my life as

1034
00:48:57,053 --> 00:48:59,213
Speaker 18: an adult. I'm almost twenty five, and I feel like

1035
00:48:59,253 --> 00:49:02,333
Speaker 18: I definitely, for the first time, truly know who I

1036
00:49:02,373 --> 00:49:04,212
Speaker 18: am and what makes me me.

1037
00:49:05,853 --> 00:49:09,213
Speaker 2: Fantastic. And I guess finally, Rachel, would you recommend this

1038
00:49:09,293 --> 00:49:12,053
Speaker 2: to other donor children, and if so, what advice would

1039
00:49:12,053 --> 00:49:12,813
Speaker 2: you give them?

1040
00:49:13,253 --> 00:49:13,533
Speaker 5: Oh?

1041
00:49:13,573 --> 00:49:16,053
Speaker 18: Man, I wouldn't trade this experience in the world. I'd

1042
00:49:16,053 --> 00:49:19,053
Speaker 18: recommend it a thousand, a thousand times over. I'm hoping

1043
00:49:19,093 --> 00:49:21,493
Speaker 18: that now I get to meet my two half siblings.

1044
00:49:21,613 --> 00:49:22,893
Speaker 18: I might have a dream that they're going to see

1045
00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:25,093
Speaker 18: my video and email, like I think I might.

1046
00:49:24,933 --> 00:49:25,692
Speaker 14: Be related to you.

1047
00:49:25,733 --> 00:49:30,133
Speaker 18: All the advice to just go out into it without expectation.

1048
00:49:30,333 --> 00:49:34,133
Speaker 18: Do not listen to the horror stories. They're much much

1049
00:49:34,173 --> 00:49:37,053
Speaker 18: more rare than people would like you to believe. Like,

1050
00:49:37,213 --> 00:49:39,013
Speaker 18: this is what I wanted to do when sharing my story.

1051
00:49:39,053 --> 00:49:42,093
Speaker 18: Hopefully people can see that very often. It's a very positive,

1052
00:49:42,213 --> 00:49:43,413
Speaker 18: very cool experience.

1053
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:47,293
Speaker 2: And it didn't affect adversely your relationship with your parents

1054
00:49:47,293 --> 00:49:48,053
Speaker 2: that you grew up with.

1055
00:49:48,373 --> 00:49:51,453
Speaker 18: No, No, I mean I was always, as you can imagine,

1056
00:49:51,493 --> 00:49:54,013
Speaker 18: was anxious that my dad might react in a certain way.

1057
00:49:54,053 --> 00:49:57,652
Speaker 18: But he has been the most incredible figure and just

1058
00:49:57,733 --> 00:49:59,853
Speaker 18: proven what kind of dad he is and proven that

1059
00:49:59,893 --> 00:50:02,253
Speaker 18: it doesn't take biology to make you a dad. It

1060
00:50:02,293 --> 00:50:04,813
Speaker 18: takes a lot more than that, and he's only been

1061
00:50:05,093 --> 00:50:07,413
Speaker 18: incredibly happy and incredibly supportive of us.

1062
00:50:07,573 --> 00:50:07,732
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1063
00:50:07,773 --> 00:50:08,333
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

1064
00:50:08,493 --> 00:50:11,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful story. And you didn't even need David Lomax

1065
00:50:11,253 --> 00:50:11,652
Speaker 3: in the end.

1066
00:50:11,853 --> 00:50:14,693
Speaker 18: No, no, although you know, if he wants.

1067
00:50:14,453 --> 00:50:18,533
Speaker 2: To or Mission Bays are pretty missing pieces placed to

1068
00:50:18,733 --> 00:50:21,133
Speaker 2: they're definitely inspired.

1069
00:50:21,533 --> 00:50:21,772
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1070
00:50:21,853 --> 00:50:25,652
Speaker 3: Really nice to chat with you Rachel and all the best. Oh,

1071
00:50:25,653 --> 00:50:28,093
Speaker 3: thank you guys, Madam Taylor.

1072
00:50:28,653 --> 00:50:31,212
Speaker 4: What a phenomenal story that is from Rachel and really

1073
00:50:31,253 --> 00:50:33,373
Speaker 4: appreciate her coming in studio to have a chat with us,

1074
00:50:33,373 --> 00:50:35,893
Speaker 4: but keen to get your stories. I eight hundred eighty

1075
00:50:36,013 --> 00:50:37,893
Speaker 4: ten eighty. You've heard Rachel's and there'd be a lot

1076
00:50:37,893 --> 00:50:40,733
Speaker 4: of people out there who were donor conceived or indeed

1077
00:50:40,773 --> 00:50:42,413
Speaker 4: were a sperm donor themselves.

1078
00:50:43,213 --> 00:50:45,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Texas says you've got to tell kids before

1079
00:50:45,333 --> 00:50:48,653
Speaker 2: they start getting on Tinder. New Zealand is too small,

1080
00:50:48,693 --> 00:50:52,093
Speaker 2: so easy to end up with a half sister or something. Yep,

1081
00:50:52,253 --> 00:50:54,613
Speaker 2: should be lord to tell them before they're sixteen. Man.

1082
00:50:54,813 --> 00:50:57,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was one of the elements that caused

1083
00:50:57,573 --> 00:51:00,413
Speaker 4: Rachel to to try and track down her biological father

1084
00:51:00,453 --> 00:51:02,413
Speaker 4: because she was in the dating game at the time. Oh,

1085
00:51:02,453 --> 00:51:05,212
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've managed to track

1086
00:51:05,253 --> 00:51:08,133
Speaker 4: down your biological parents, love to hear your stories. And

1087
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:10,333
Speaker 4: on the flip side, if you were a sperm donor,

1088
00:51:10,413 --> 00:51:12,212
Speaker 4: did you get a letter, did you get a phone

1089
00:51:12,293 --> 00:51:15,213
Speaker 4: call from someone who suspected they were one of your children?

1090
00:51:15,533 --> 00:51:18,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's this city similar stories. Just an adoption,

1091
00:51:18,293 --> 00:51:20,613
Speaker 2: isn't there? Flattered with the Lass in Hamilton in nineteen

1092
00:51:20,613 --> 00:51:23,093
Speaker 2: eighty six, she was adopted, She found her birth mama

1093
00:51:23,213 --> 00:51:25,213
Speaker 2: and they both worked together at farmers in Hamilton.

1094
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Speaker 7: Wow.

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00:51:25,773 --> 00:51:28,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a great story. Oh eight hundred eighty

1096
00:51:28,173 --> 00:51:30,373
Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number to call. Love to hear yours.

1097
00:51:30,373 --> 00:51:31,853
Speaker 4: It is twenty one past.

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Speaker 1: Two Matt Heathan Tyler Adams. Afternoons call oh eight hundred

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00:51:39,093 --> 00:51:41,213
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZEDB.

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00:51:41,933 --> 00:51:45,293
Speaker 4: News Talks EDB. It is excuse me, it is twenty

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00:51:45,293 --> 00:51:47,133
Speaker 4: three pasts two. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1102
00:51:47,213 --> 00:51:50,213
Speaker 4: is the number to call. And we are talking about

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00:51:50,773 --> 00:51:52,853
Speaker 4: sperm donor story. So a great story in the Hero

1104
00:51:52,973 --> 00:51:56,213
Speaker 4: written by Rachel Mayer. She tranked down her biological father

1105
00:51:56,373 --> 00:52:00,213
Speaker 4: as she was a She was a donation conceived or

1106
00:52:00,253 --> 00:52:02,053
Speaker 4: donor conceived. I believe is the word, and so I

1107
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:04,333
Speaker 4: love to hear your stories. Nineteen nine two is the

1108
00:52:04,373 --> 00:52:05,013
Speaker 4: text number.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Welcome to the show.

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00:52:07,893 --> 00:52:12,692
Speaker 7: Here you go. Back in the nineties, I went through

1111
00:52:12,693 --> 00:52:15,213
Speaker 7: a process with some people that were friends of a

1112
00:52:15,253 --> 00:52:18,613
Speaker 7: friend of mine, and they couldn't have any more children,

1113
00:52:19,293 --> 00:52:24,093
Speaker 7: and they dearly wanted another one, and so I put

1114
00:52:24,133 --> 00:52:26,973
Speaker 7: my hand up. Cut the long story shorts. We became

1115
00:52:27,053 --> 00:52:30,973
Speaker 7: friends before the child was born, and I was always

1116
00:52:31,013 --> 00:52:36,893
Speaker 7: in the background his uncle Guy, and in fact it

1117
00:52:36,933 --> 00:52:39,373
Speaker 7: wasn't even uncle Guy, and it was this guy and

1118
00:52:40,413 --> 00:52:43,253
Speaker 7: It was always part of the well, not the agreement,

1119
00:52:43,253 --> 00:52:46,573
Speaker 7: but they always wanted the child to know that before

1120
00:52:46,613 --> 00:52:51,093
Speaker 7: she was ten, that she was you know, she wasn't

1121
00:52:51,133 --> 00:52:55,133
Speaker 7: from the father as she knew it for what happens

1122
00:52:55,173 --> 00:52:59,613
Speaker 7: in the future moving forward, which is kind of kind

1123
00:52:59,613 --> 00:53:07,093
Speaker 7: of lucky because her father as he was ditched the

1124
00:53:07,133 --> 00:53:11,253
Speaker 7: Australia and which left to without a dad so to speak,

1125
00:53:11,493 --> 00:53:14,453
Speaker 7: and he had very little to do with her, if anything.

1126
00:53:14,493 --> 00:53:19,613
Speaker 7: Some years and her and I became like daughter, and

1127
00:53:20,493 --> 00:53:26,533
Speaker 7: I'm talking about after she's seventeen now, and she purchased

1128
00:53:26,533 --> 00:53:29,893
Speaker 7: a kit for me because she had already done one,

1129
00:53:30,533 --> 00:53:33,453
Speaker 7: and I did that and the results came back and

1130
00:53:33,493 --> 00:53:36,893
Speaker 7: it said that this person as she is forty nine

1131
00:53:37,493 --> 00:53:41,493
Speaker 7: nine percent DNA match with you. We're suggesting this girl

1132
00:53:41,533 --> 00:53:45,013
Speaker 7: as your daughter, which is which is kind of cool

1133
00:53:45,013 --> 00:53:47,093
Speaker 7: because if she did that and then found out that

1134
00:53:47,093 --> 00:53:48,652
Speaker 7: her dad was and her dad, if she was never

1135
00:53:48,693 --> 00:53:52,493
Speaker 7: told the truth about things, it would have all come out.

1136
00:53:54,093 --> 00:53:58,293
Speaker 7: So hey, I know you go, yeah, that was that

1137
00:53:58,373 --> 00:53:59,853
Speaker 7: was a battle. Yeah.

1138
00:53:59,933 --> 00:54:02,733
Speaker 2: So how old was she was she when she was

1139
00:54:02,973 --> 00:54:04,013
Speaker 2: told guy?

1140
00:54:04,853 --> 00:54:10,772
Speaker 7: She was just before ten, yeah and seven.

1141
00:54:10,813 --> 00:54:13,933
Speaker 2: Now, how does she react to being told that that

1142
00:54:14,053 --> 00:54:17,573
Speaker 2: uncle Guy was actually her you know, biological dabt.

1143
00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:24,333
Speaker 7: Well, I think because who and she knew him skipped out. Yeah,

1144
00:54:24,533 --> 00:54:28,013
Speaker 7: she was actually quite toughed, to be honest. And you know,

1145
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:31,133
Speaker 7: we do Christmases together and birthdays and she always comes

1146
00:54:31,133 --> 00:54:32,893
Speaker 7: for Father's Day. She was about an hour and a

1147
00:54:32,893 --> 00:54:33,413
Speaker 7: half from me.

1148
00:54:33,773 --> 00:54:34,053
Speaker 2: Wow.

1149
00:54:35,213 --> 00:54:37,172
Speaker 7: And you know, so we we have quite a bit

1150
00:54:37,173 --> 00:54:39,973
Speaker 7: to do. We talk regularly and we'll keep in touch.

1151
00:54:40,533 --> 00:54:41,573
Speaker 2: Do you have any other kids?

1152
00:54:41,573 --> 00:54:41,613
Speaker 11: Go?

1153
00:54:42,733 --> 00:54:45,773
Speaker 7: I do. I was never going to have any it

1154
00:54:45,893 --> 00:54:48,172
Speaker 7: was it was always my fan. I had three god

1155
00:54:48,253 --> 00:54:50,172
Speaker 7: children at the time. I was quite happy to keep

1156
00:54:50,173 --> 00:54:53,973
Speaker 7: it that way. And even a partner I had had

1157
00:54:54,013 --> 00:54:56,493
Speaker 7: different ideas. So anyway, fast the best thing that ever

1158
00:54:56,493 --> 00:54:59,693
Speaker 7: happened to me. I didn't realize that, but it certainly

1159
00:54:59,733 --> 00:55:01,453
Speaker 7: is the best thing that ever happened to me. I

1160
00:55:01,493 --> 00:55:02,573
Speaker 7: love having kids.

1161
00:55:02,653 --> 00:55:07,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, and sorry, and so that do do your other

1162
00:55:07,533 --> 00:55:10,853
Speaker 2: kids have a relationhip chip with this young lady?

1163
00:55:12,333 --> 00:55:15,373
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, nothing, but not that they hang out together

1164
00:55:15,453 --> 00:55:18,013
Speaker 7: or anything, but you know at Christmas and that we

1165
00:55:18,693 --> 00:55:22,093
Speaker 7: all hang out and yeah, and and of course she

1166
00:55:22,213 --> 00:55:24,693
Speaker 7: takes the mickey out of them. My younger boy's just

1167
00:55:24,693 --> 00:55:26,853
Speaker 7: gone seven, come up to seventeen and he's just got

1168
00:55:26,853 --> 00:55:29,613
Speaker 7: his license and stuff, and and yes he likes to

1169
00:55:29,653 --> 00:55:32,013
Speaker 7: take the mickey out of him and so on the air,

1170
00:55:32,613 --> 00:55:35,853
Speaker 7: it's they're like brother and sister, but just brought up differently.

1171
00:55:35,893 --> 00:55:36,373
Speaker 7: I suppose.

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00:55:36,493 --> 00:55:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's lovely.

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00:55:37,373 --> 00:55:37,573
Speaker 7: Guy.

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00:55:37,933 --> 00:55:40,293
Speaker 4: Was it when you were a sperm downer and you

1175
00:55:40,333 --> 00:55:43,133
Speaker 4: said you helped out your dear friends? There was it

1176
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:46,733
Speaker 4: always a part of you that wanted your daughter to

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00:55:46,773 --> 00:55:49,413
Speaker 4: know that you were the biological father or you were

1178
00:55:49,413 --> 00:55:52,373
Speaker 4: happy to leave that in the in the hands of

1179
00:55:52,533 --> 00:55:53,693
Speaker 4: the other parents.

1180
00:55:54,173 --> 00:55:56,213
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I mean they were up front right

1181
00:55:56,213 --> 00:55:58,453
Speaker 7: at the start. They said that they wanted her to know.

1182
00:55:59,973 --> 00:56:03,053
Speaker 7: If I didn't want to know that it was me,

1183
00:56:04,133 --> 00:56:06,333
Speaker 7: that was fine, but they needed to know that he

1184
00:56:06,413 --> 00:56:09,133
Speaker 7: wasn't the real dad, just in case you find those

1185
00:56:09,173 --> 00:56:11,573
Speaker 7: situations where there's a hospital going on and you need

1186
00:56:11,573 --> 00:56:14,653
Speaker 7: the blood and they go this your father. And if

1187
00:56:14,693 --> 00:56:17,212
Speaker 7: a child finds out after ten, they can actually get

1188
00:56:17,293 --> 00:56:21,893
Speaker 7: quite angry what the fertility associates were saying, because they

1189
00:56:21,893 --> 00:56:23,973
Speaker 7: do a big test on you to make sure that

1190
00:56:24,053 --> 00:56:26,813
Speaker 7: you know what you're doing and you're sure that you're

1191
00:56:26,813 --> 00:56:30,172
Speaker 7: doing is the right thing and stuff, so you know,

1192
00:56:30,653 --> 00:56:33,773
Speaker 7: but yeah, when a kid finds out that fifteen sixteen,

1193
00:56:33,773 --> 00:56:35,973
Speaker 7: and their hormones all over the place, and they can

1194
00:56:35,973 --> 00:56:38,373
Speaker 7: actually get quite angry if if they're not told around

1195
00:56:38,413 --> 00:56:41,253
Speaker 7: that eight nine, ten mark all thereabouts.

1196
00:56:41,453 --> 00:56:44,253
Speaker 2: Makes sense, Now, guy, what was it like to see

1197
00:56:45,053 --> 00:56:49,493
Speaker 2: your daughter as uncle guy for the first time, you know,

1198
00:56:49,853 --> 00:56:52,293
Speaker 2: when she was just just a baby. To look on

1199
00:56:52,333 --> 00:56:55,133
Speaker 2: here and know that she was your biological daughter but

1200
00:56:55,293 --> 00:56:58,093
Speaker 2: you were going to be just uncle guy for a while.

1201
00:56:59,813 --> 00:57:03,173
Speaker 7: It was really cool. No attachment, seriously, I mean that,

1202
00:57:03,533 --> 00:57:06,173
Speaker 7: I'm very, very practical, and I know what the agreement

1203
00:57:06,213 --> 00:57:08,773
Speaker 7: was that we went into and stuff, and that's the

1204
00:57:08,893 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 7: baby and stuff. But it was really neat. They actually

1205
00:57:11,573 --> 00:57:21,653
Speaker 7: made me the Godfather's kind of But yeah, but I

1206
00:57:21,653 --> 00:57:24,533
Speaker 7: I certainly, But because I didn't want to have children,

1207
00:57:24,573 --> 00:57:26,053
Speaker 7: it was kind of cool that I'd be able to

1208
00:57:26,053 --> 00:57:29,373
Speaker 7: see what I would have turned a child of mind

1209
00:57:29,373 --> 00:57:31,813
Speaker 7: would have turned out like yeah, and that was that

1210
00:57:31,893 --> 00:57:35,973
Speaker 7: was probably the exciting part of it, is that, yeah,

1211
00:57:35,973 --> 00:57:37,333
Speaker 7: I won't have any kids, but at least I get

1212
00:57:37,373 --> 00:57:39,733
Speaker 7: to see one that that sort of looks like me

1213
00:57:39,773 --> 00:57:41,973
Speaker 7: because it was half me. Yeah. Yeah.

1214
00:57:42,733 --> 00:57:46,693
Speaker 2: And what about your relationship with the mother, did that

1215
00:57:46,733 --> 00:57:47,933
Speaker 2: always stay on good terms?

1216
00:57:48,773 --> 00:57:51,533
Speaker 7: Oh? Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know, we're still reguling.

1217
00:57:51,893 --> 00:57:55,373
Speaker 7: In fact, they have Christmas Is together and stuff and yeah, yeah,

1218
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:59,533
Speaker 7: all very nice. Yeah she's got and stuff.

1219
00:57:59,773 --> 00:58:02,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's cool. And was there any ever expectation

1220
00:58:02,653 --> 00:58:05,893
Speaker 2: of once she knew that you were dad? Has there

1221
00:58:05,893 --> 00:58:10,093
Speaker 2: ever been an expectation of finance support or anything like that.

1222
00:58:10,973 --> 00:58:13,773
Speaker 7: No, nothing's ever been put on me. I mean she

1223
00:58:13,933 --> 00:58:19,533
Speaker 7: was I was with a woman that didn't really like

1224
00:58:19,573 --> 00:58:23,813
Speaker 7: the idea of her being in the background. So between

1225
00:58:23,853 --> 00:58:27,773
Speaker 7: the ages of about teen and seventeen, I saw very

1226
00:58:27,773 --> 00:58:32,173
Speaker 7: little of her. But since my wife and I split up,

1227
00:58:32,453 --> 00:58:35,533
Speaker 7: I see all the time. So from seventeen until now

1228
00:58:35,533 --> 00:58:40,573
Speaker 7: when she's twenty seven, Yes, I see her like a

1229
00:58:40,653 --> 00:58:42,693
Speaker 7: dad would with a child that's left home.

1230
00:58:42,773 --> 00:58:46,893
Speaker 2: And that seems complicated for me, you know. I mean,

1231
00:58:46,893 --> 00:58:49,413
Speaker 2: if you don't mind me asking, what was the problem

1232
00:58:49,813 --> 00:58:52,733
Speaker 2: with you? You know, you've done a nice thing. Some people

1233
00:58:53,373 --> 00:58:56,533
Speaker 2: needed a donor. You were the donor. You've got this kid.

1234
00:59:00,613 --> 00:59:03,173
Speaker 7: It's quite simple. She's a bit of a narcissist and

1235
00:59:03,213 --> 00:59:06,573
Speaker 7: she likes I had no friends. I had so many friends.

1236
00:59:07,093 --> 00:59:10,573
Speaker 7: I had three god children, to my to my the

1237
00:59:10,653 --> 00:59:13,173
Speaker 7: when we're talking about twenty four, I never got to

1238
00:59:13,173 --> 00:59:16,133
Speaker 7: see any of them because my wife wouldn't really allow it. Right,

1239
00:59:17,253 --> 00:59:20,453
Speaker 7: It's not what she said, it's the consequences of what

1240
00:59:20,573 --> 00:59:25,013
Speaker 7: happened when you suggested doing something right. Wow, it it

1241
00:59:25,053 --> 00:59:28,693
Speaker 7: took me about six seven years to actually get a spine,

1242
00:59:28,813 --> 00:59:31,053
Speaker 7: if you want to put another term.

1243
00:59:31,133 --> 00:59:35,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I mean massively complicated. But so good that

1244
00:59:35,053 --> 00:59:38,373
Speaker 2: you've got this relationship with with this daughter and that

1245
00:59:38,413 --> 00:59:41,853
Speaker 2: part of it has turned out so well. Yes, it

1246
00:59:41,893 --> 00:59:45,173
Speaker 2: really is, really is and fantastic for her that you're

1247
00:59:45,253 --> 00:59:48,773
Speaker 2: such a fantastic guy and that you could step in

1248
00:59:48,813 --> 00:59:52,533
Speaker 2: when her when her father was found wanting and ran off.

1249
00:59:52,573 --> 00:59:55,413
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's you know, for her, that that's

1250
00:59:55,533 --> 00:59:57,373
Speaker 2: that's you know, a bonus, isn't it.

1251
00:59:58,413 --> 00:59:58,613
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1252
00:59:58,773 --> 01:00:01,293
Speaker 7: It is because she hit two other sisters too, and

1253
01:00:01,453 --> 01:00:03,253
Speaker 7: both of them are now dead, which is really hard

1254
01:00:03,293 --> 01:00:06,573
Speaker 7: for her. So families getting less.

1255
01:00:06,813 --> 01:00:09,293
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, tragic.

1256
01:00:09,653 --> 01:00:13,773
Speaker 7: It's a real, real shame. That's me. She's a strong

1257
01:00:13,813 --> 01:00:17,053
Speaker 7: girl and I love it, love it a bit. Yeah.

1258
01:00:17,373 --> 01:00:19,813
Speaker 2: Oh man, God, thank you so much for sharing that

1259
01:00:19,853 --> 01:00:21,453
Speaker 2: story with us. It's an incredible Yeah.

1260
01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:23,773
Speaker 7: But just to take my head off to her mother,

1261
01:00:23,853 --> 01:00:27,893
Speaker 7: Her mother's done all the work. She's an awesome girl

1262
01:00:27,893 --> 01:00:32,813
Speaker 7: who's at twenty seven owns two houses, but that's her

1263
01:00:32,853 --> 01:00:36,613
Speaker 7: mother's been who brought her up. You know, I'm pleased

1264
01:00:36,613 --> 01:00:38,573
Speaker 7: to have been there in the last ten years or so.

1265
01:00:40,533 --> 01:00:43,613
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much for giving us about and it

1266
01:00:43,653 --> 01:00:46,293
Speaker 4: sounds like you're all very good people involved in that situation.

1267
01:00:46,333 --> 01:00:47,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

1268
01:00:47,173 --> 01:00:49,333
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1269
01:00:49,333 --> 01:00:51,653
Speaker 4: call if you were donor conceived. Love to hear your story,

1270
01:00:51,733 --> 01:00:54,813
Speaker 4: if you were a sperm donor yourself or a donor

1271
01:00:55,293 --> 01:00:57,293
Speaker 4: egg donor. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1272
01:00:57,333 --> 01:00:59,173
Speaker 4: number to call. It is twenty eight to three.

1273
01:01:01,493 --> 01:01:04,693
Speaker 14: You talk the headlines with blue bubble taxis there's no

1274
01:01:04,813 --> 01:01:08,133
Speaker 14: trouble with a blue bubble. Ukraine's ambassador this morning of

1275
01:01:08,373 --> 01:01:10,893
Speaker 14: Jens in Europe and his country will ripple to the

1276
01:01:10,933 --> 01:01:14,333
Speaker 14: Indo Pacific. The US President has been talking with Russia

1277
01:01:14,413 --> 01:01:17,653
Speaker 14: and now Ukraine and European leaders a meeting in Washington

1278
01:01:17,733 --> 01:01:20,973
Speaker 14: for more talks. Meanwhile, in Israel, thousands have joined a

1279
01:01:21,053 --> 01:01:24,893
Speaker 14: nationwide strike, asking Prime Minister Benjamin Ette Yahoo to reach

1280
01:01:24,933 --> 01:01:28,933
Speaker 14: a peace agreement. In Gaza, Airways says an air traffic

1281
01:01:28,973 --> 01:01:33,333
Speaker 14: control failure that disrupted trans Tasman flights on Saturday, including

1282
01:01:33,413 --> 01:01:36,253
Speaker 14: five aircraft in the air was likely caused by a

1283
01:01:36,373 --> 01:01:40,573
Speaker 14: data issue transfer. Quantus is expecting to face a nine

1284
01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:44,293
Speaker 14: figure fine for illegally sacking more than eighteen hundred workers

1285
01:01:44,413 --> 01:01:48,413
Speaker 14: during the COVID pandemic by outsourcing baggage handlers, cleaners and

1286
01:01:48,493 --> 01:01:52,413
Speaker 14: ground staff. In twenty twenty, Inter Island ferry the art

1287
01:01:52,493 --> 01:01:55,413
Speaker 14: Tedi is making her final sailing across Cook Straight, her

1288
01:01:55,493 --> 01:01:59,053
Speaker 14: last hurrah before being sold. Port infrastructure work will begin

1289
01:01:59,213 --> 01:02:03,773
Speaker 14: next to accommodate new ships. In twenty twenty nine, Plasking's

1290
01:02:03,773 --> 01:02:07,253
Speaker 14: College triumph oversint Kentigan to claim their eighteenth Auckland First

1291
01:02:07,293 --> 01:02:09,653
Speaker 14: fifteen title in front of a crowd of about ten

1292
01:02:09,693 --> 01:02:12,893
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1293
01:02:13,013 --> 01:02:14,253
Speaker 14: Now back to Mass and Tyler.

1294
01:02:14,373 --> 01:02:17,093
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we are talking about

1295
01:02:17,973 --> 01:02:20,813
Speaker 4: being a donor conceived baby or being a sperm donor.

1296
01:02:21,093 --> 01:02:23,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so many texts coming through us, you know,

1297
01:02:23,813 --> 01:02:26,133
Speaker 2: celebrating a guy who rang up before Guy What an

1298
01:02:26,173 --> 01:02:29,653
Speaker 2: awesome guy? Yes, guy, what an awesome guy? One if

1299
01:02:29,653 --> 01:02:31,293
Speaker 2: that's intentional, But guy was an awesome guy.

1300
01:02:31,333 --> 01:02:32,933
Speaker 3: He was a good dude. Absolutely, that was a.

1301
01:02:32,893 --> 01:02:36,813
Speaker 2: Really good chat. Also this text here, Tyler, you muppet,

1302
01:02:36,853 --> 01:02:39,213
Speaker 2: It's David Lomas, not Dovid Lomax.

1303
01:02:39,213 --> 01:02:40,453
Speaker 3: Where did I get Lomax from?

1304
01:02:40,893 --> 01:02:43,333
Speaker 4: There was a company called Lomax. David Lomax. He should

1305
01:02:43,413 --> 01:02:44,653
Speaker 4: change his name to David Lomax.

1306
01:02:44,693 --> 01:02:47,893
Speaker 2: That sounds good that she is a cool name. But yeah,

1307
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Speaker 2: he makes great, he makes great.

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Speaker 3: He's a good man.

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01:02:50,413 --> 01:02:55,613
Speaker 2: David's making the mothers that called investigations David Lomas low mass.

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Speaker 3: Investigations with Lomax.

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01:02:57,613 --> 01:03:00,213
Speaker 2: I'm doubling David Lomas investigates.

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01:03:00,253 --> 01:03:01,293
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm watching that one.

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01:03:01,373 --> 01:03:02,973
Speaker 2: David Lomax investigate.

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01:03:03,093 --> 01:03:05,013
Speaker 3: Thank you. That's a bit of title, but thank you

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01:03:05,093 --> 01:03:05,973
Speaker 3: very much for the text.

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01:03:06,213 --> 01:03:07,453
Speaker 2: Yah Landa, welcome to the show.

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01:03:10,773 --> 01:03:12,893
Speaker 3: Hi, very good. Now what's your story?

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Speaker 11: My story is not chechnically a spirmed down it as

1319
01:03:17,853 --> 01:03:21,773
Speaker 11: what you guys are talking about. But my mom and

1320
01:03:21,813 --> 01:03:24,933
Speaker 11: my dad were newly immigrants to New Zealand. But they

1321
01:03:25,213 --> 01:03:27,493
Speaker 11: learned a couple when they came to New Zealand. So

1322
01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:31,093
Speaker 11: I guess they jaked up purely out of loneliness and

1323
01:03:31,253 --> 01:03:34,813
Speaker 11: our friendships, and then one thing lead to another and

1324
01:03:34,853 --> 01:03:37,573
Speaker 11: I came along. But it was done for like I

1325
01:03:37,573 --> 01:03:39,853
Speaker 11: don't know how long. It was a very brief moment

1326
01:03:40,573 --> 01:03:43,333
Speaker 11: and he only saw me the once when I was

1327
01:03:43,373 --> 01:03:48,493
Speaker 11: about two years old, and then that was the last time.

1328
01:03:48,653 --> 01:03:52,693
Speaker 11: And we reunited so to speak, when I was thirty

1329
01:03:52,773 --> 01:03:56,213
Speaker 11: years old, so it's like twenty eight years where he

1330
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:58,733
Speaker 11: didn't know me and just the one off of us

1331
01:03:58,773 --> 01:04:02,853
Speaker 11: that when when I was two years old. So yeah,

1332
01:04:03,173 --> 01:04:05,933
Speaker 11: and we you know, I found out, you know, he's

1333
01:04:06,733 --> 01:04:10,933
Speaker 11: a themed just my mom. He got married and had

1334
01:04:10,973 --> 01:04:16,333
Speaker 11: four children, so the eldest daughter she wrote to me,

1335
01:04:16,693 --> 01:04:20,573
Speaker 11: and that was a shock hour of the blue. And

1336
01:04:20,613 --> 01:04:23,533
Speaker 11: then I think it's probably within six months. I wrote

1337
01:04:23,573 --> 01:04:29,893
Speaker 11: to my letters to my dad, telling him basically about

1338
01:04:29,893 --> 01:04:33,813
Speaker 11: my life and yeah, and then we meet at the

1339
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:37,373
Speaker 11: end of nineteen ninety nine and yeah, that was the

1340
01:04:37,493 --> 01:04:38,973
Speaker 11: day before Christmas.

1341
01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:42,733
Speaker 2: Wow, beautiful. And have you stayed in contact for the

1342
01:04:42,773 --> 01:04:44,133
Speaker 2: last twenty six years since then?

1343
01:04:44,813 --> 01:04:48,573
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, we stayed in contact. Obviously. It was a

1344
01:04:48,573 --> 01:04:51,133
Speaker 11: bit awkward at at the beginning, you know, not so

1345
01:04:51,253 --> 01:04:53,773
Speaker 11: much was to my dad, but being introduced to my

1346
01:04:53,813 --> 01:04:56,413
Speaker 11: other siblings because you know, they were told about me,

1347
01:04:56,613 --> 01:04:59,413
Speaker 11: So there was about I think they're either sixteen or eighteen,

1348
01:05:00,093 --> 01:05:06,293
Speaker 11: so yeah, it was yeah, all the adjustment, you know,

1349
01:05:06,533 --> 01:05:13,213
Speaker 11: to have one brother, to have four each childlings. Yeah, yeah,

1350
01:05:13,373 --> 01:05:17,373
Speaker 11: it was. It's, you know, really awesome now that at

1351
01:05:17,453 --> 01:05:21,213
Speaker 11: least I know my identity who my dad is. And

1352
01:05:21,293 --> 01:05:23,573
Speaker 11: my mom would say, you look you look like your father.

1353
01:05:23,813 --> 01:05:27,773
Speaker 11: And it's really weird, like we see the wink thing,

1354
01:05:28,213 --> 01:05:31,053
Speaker 11: you know, where we wink when we talk. He likes

1355
01:05:31,173 --> 01:05:35,213
Speaker 11: carrot cake. I love carrot cake. He doesn't like cook carrots.

1356
01:05:35,413 --> 01:05:40,573
Speaker 11: I don't like cook carrots, but we both like raw carrots. Figure.

1357
01:05:42,253 --> 01:05:47,053
Speaker 11: You know, it's in the DNA for sure. And I

1358
01:05:47,173 --> 01:05:50,933
Speaker 11: look so much like him. And you know, when I

1359
01:05:50,973 --> 01:05:54,053
Speaker 11: saw him, I was like, are we quiet? You see,

1360
01:05:54,093 --> 01:05:56,613
Speaker 11: I'm very outspoken by this. We did quiet and I

1361
01:05:56,653 --> 01:05:59,533
Speaker 11: was like, oh my goodness, you ah my dad. We

1362
01:05:59,653 --> 01:06:02,653
Speaker 11: look so I'm just a female version of my dad.

1363
01:06:03,333 --> 01:06:07,493
Speaker 11: You know. Yeah, But it's been good, you know, you know,

1364
01:06:07,613 --> 01:06:11,093
Speaker 11: it's very skin to know each other. What's the simbling.

1365
01:06:11,213 --> 01:06:14,933
Speaker 11: It's been trial and error, but you know it's awesome.

1366
01:06:15,573 --> 01:06:16,373
Speaker 11: It's awesome.

1367
01:06:16,773 --> 01:06:18,373
Speaker 2: So do you do you know the reason? If you

1368
01:06:18,373 --> 01:06:22,053
Speaker 2: don't mind me asking land Landa, why you between two

1369
01:06:22,133 --> 01:06:24,693
Speaker 2: and thirty that twenty eight years where you didn't have

1370
01:06:24,733 --> 01:06:28,853
Speaker 2: a relationship do you know why that was why he

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01:06:28,933 --> 01:06:30,053
Speaker 2: only saw you when you two.

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01:06:31,013 --> 01:06:34,773
Speaker 11: I think I don't know exactly why they lost contact.

1373
01:06:34,853 --> 01:06:37,853
Speaker 8: I don't know that, but.

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01:06:37,533 --> 01:06:38,773
Speaker 2: He was aware you existed.

1375
01:06:39,573 --> 01:06:44,093
Speaker 11: He was aware they existed. Yeah, you know, he you know,

1376
01:06:44,173 --> 01:06:47,613
Speaker 11: Mum told him, you know, I'm having your baby. And

1377
01:06:47,653 --> 01:06:50,853
Speaker 11: he saw me when I was two. That's what I've

1378
01:06:50,893 --> 01:06:53,213
Speaker 11: been told. He saw me when I was two, and

1379
01:06:53,253 --> 01:06:56,893
Speaker 11: then and he took photos and I gave Himum a

1380
01:06:56,973 --> 01:07:00,653
Speaker 11: copy and he obviously kept the copy. And then the

1381
01:07:00,693 --> 01:07:04,933
Speaker 11: next twenty eight years went by, and you know, it's

1382
01:07:04,933 --> 01:07:07,853
Speaker 11: always in the back room because he you know, over

1383
01:07:07,853 --> 01:07:10,853
Speaker 11: the years, time to get married. I sort of I

1384
01:07:11,013 --> 01:07:13,053
Speaker 11: don't want to make the first step because I thought

1385
01:07:13,493 --> 01:07:16,293
Speaker 11: this is going to be difficult. Do I make the

1386
01:07:16,333 --> 01:07:19,093
Speaker 11: first step? Because she's got four siblings, I didn't know

1387
01:07:19,133 --> 01:07:22,893
Speaker 11: whether they knew about me or not. And then of

1388
01:07:22,933 --> 01:07:25,853
Speaker 11: course I got the letter from my sister and I

1389
01:07:25,973 --> 01:07:30,453
Speaker 11: was blind away, and you know, it's just not these

1390
01:07:30,493 --> 01:07:32,853
Speaker 11: feelings that I never thought I had. And then I

1391
01:07:32,893 --> 01:07:36,173
Speaker 11: think about six months later, I thought I have to

1392
01:07:36,213 --> 01:07:38,653
Speaker 11: write to my dad, and I mean, she's made the opening,

1393
01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:42,853
Speaker 11: and you know, I wrote to my dad and sent

1394
01:07:42,973 --> 01:07:46,213
Speaker 11: some photos over the now like school photos and ball

1395
01:07:46,373 --> 01:07:50,053
Speaker 11: photos and you know and.

1396
01:07:50,293 --> 01:07:56,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually sorry, no, no, no, you continue, sorry, I.

1397
01:07:56,653 --> 01:08:00,333
Speaker 11: Say we actually got very similar handwriting to make it

1398
01:08:00,373 --> 01:08:01,173
Speaker 11: more ironic.

1399
01:08:03,373 --> 01:08:07,013
Speaker 2: Did you harbor any resentment towards them for not being

1400
01:08:07,133 --> 01:08:09,253
Speaker 2: being around, you know, seeing you at two and they're

1401
01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:11,213
Speaker 2: not not not being in your life?

1402
01:08:12,853 --> 01:08:16,213
Speaker 11: No? I didn't really because I didn't know any better. Yeah,

1403
01:08:17,293 --> 01:08:20,452
Speaker 11: if that made sense, I didn't know any better. And

1404
01:08:20,572 --> 01:08:23,053
Speaker 11: the real yeah, I just didn't know any better. I

1405
01:08:23,133 --> 01:08:25,452
Speaker 11: never had a dad in my life though, I didn't

1406
01:08:25,492 --> 01:08:28,213
Speaker 11: know any better, so I didn't know what it was

1407
01:08:28,333 --> 01:08:31,892
Speaker 11: like to have a dad. So and a real neuronic

1408
01:08:32,013 --> 01:08:35,132
Speaker 11: thing about it was ten minutes away from.

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01:08:34,973 --> 01:08:39,652
Speaker 3: Me, wow, really just down the road, Like yeah.

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01:08:39,612 --> 01:08:44,372
Speaker 11: It's basically they're off ten fifteen minutes by car, which

1411
01:08:44,452 --> 01:08:47,053
Speaker 11: was really scary because I could have seen him a

1412
01:08:47,053 --> 01:08:49,652
Speaker 11: million or one time and not even know about it.

1413
01:08:49,732 --> 01:08:53,253
Speaker 11: You know, I would have Yeah, And it's the real

1414
01:08:53,372 --> 01:08:55,572
Speaker 11: scary thing is you know I could have bumped into

1415
01:08:55,652 --> 01:08:59,173
Speaker 11: him and we all have both looked at each other.

1416
01:08:59,253 --> 01:09:03,492
Speaker 11: But yeah, it never happened. But yeah, it's a small

1417
01:09:03,532 --> 01:09:06,133
Speaker 11: word on it. And when it comes to like, you know,

1418
01:09:06,213 --> 01:09:09,012
Speaker 11: he's knowing your Dad's only fifteen minutes way. You've never

1419
01:09:09,093 --> 01:09:12,533
Speaker 11: mixed a guy, so yeah.

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01:09:11,812 --> 01:09:14,812
Speaker 2: Well what a fantastic story. Yeah, Landon, I'm glad that's

1421
01:09:14,812 --> 01:09:15,732
Speaker 2: all worked out for you.

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01:09:15,973 --> 01:09:16,612
Speaker 3: Very cool. Oh eight.

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01:09:16,612 --> 01:09:18,452
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

1424
01:09:18,452 --> 01:09:20,572
Speaker 4: call if you're a sperm donor, if you're a donor

1425
01:09:20,692 --> 01:09:24,013
Speaker 4: conceived baby, or you've got an adoption story. Really can

1426
01:09:24,053 --> 01:09:26,572
Speaker 4: never check with you. Nineteen nine too, is a text number.

1427
01:09:26,652 --> 01:09:27,692
Speaker 4: It is seventeen to three.

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01:09:27,812 --> 01:09:31,012
Speaker 2: Or if you're David Lomax, the x kei We rugby

1429
01:09:31,093 --> 01:09:32,412
Speaker 2: league player, would like to hear from you as.

1430
01:09:32,293 --> 01:09:35,572
Speaker 3: Well, good man, the issues.

1431
01:09:35,213 --> 01:09:37,692
Speaker 2: That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.

1432
01:09:37,933 --> 01:09:41,293
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said, be.

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01:09:41,772 --> 01:09:44,652
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon, Juit. It is fourteen to two three.

1434
01:09:45,812 --> 01:09:48,572
Speaker 2: This text has just come through. Its interesting. Hi guys,

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01:09:48,612 --> 01:09:50,732
Speaker 2: I was a test you baby, I had a womb

1436
01:09:50,812 --> 01:09:52,772
Speaker 2: with a view from Jason.

1437
01:09:52,812 --> 01:09:53,333
Speaker 3: Well done.

1438
01:09:53,372 --> 01:09:54,852
Speaker 2: Thanks for your contribution, Jason.

1439
01:09:54,933 --> 01:09:55,572
Speaker 3: It's very good.

1440
01:09:55,612 --> 01:09:56,293
Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

1441
01:09:56,333 --> 01:09:58,053
Speaker 3: That's the sort of text we love around here. Thank

1442
01:09:58,093 --> 01:09:58,692
Speaker 3: you very much. Joe.

1443
01:09:58,692 --> 01:10:01,732
Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Lee,

1444
01:10:01,893 --> 01:10:02,852
Speaker 4: how are you this afternoon.

1445
01:10:03,572 --> 01:10:04,492
Speaker 15: Good, thank you, How are.

1446
01:10:04,452 --> 01:10:06,173
Speaker 3: You very good? So what's your story?

1447
01:10:07,492 --> 01:10:11,973
Speaker 15: Well, in nineteen seventy two, I was adopted out, and

1448
01:10:12,053 --> 01:10:15,732
Speaker 15: so I wasn't spirm donut or anything. But obviously, when

1449
01:10:15,772 --> 01:10:18,492
Speaker 15: you're talking about this as push buttons, I guess a

1450
01:10:18,532 --> 01:10:20,772
Speaker 15: few people were getting their buttons pushed from this one.

1451
01:10:21,612 --> 01:10:27,213
Speaker 15: But my adopted parents were the best people, right, And

1452
01:10:28,253 --> 01:10:31,532
Speaker 15: I never really thought about trying to find out. I

1453
01:10:31,572 --> 01:10:34,732
Speaker 15: didn't care I would. I just decided that that was

1454
01:10:34,812 --> 01:10:37,692
Speaker 15: I didn't need to know. But as I got older,

1455
01:10:38,133 --> 01:10:41,933
Speaker 15: my adopted mother was pushing for me to find out

1456
01:10:42,213 --> 01:10:45,133
Speaker 15: because I was always wondering what countries I was from,

1457
01:10:45,412 --> 01:10:51,412
Speaker 15: you know, where's my bloodline go? And in the end

1458
01:10:51,933 --> 01:10:56,412
Speaker 15: I searched for her and found her at the bottom

1459
01:10:56,452 --> 01:11:02,372
Speaker 15: of the South Island and went and met up. And

1460
01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:08,612
Speaker 15: she was a nice, nice woman, but she was very

1461
01:11:09,173 --> 01:11:14,892
Speaker 15: judgmental of the family that I was adopted into.

1462
01:11:16,372 --> 01:11:19,052
Speaker 2: Well odd yeah, Well.

1463
01:11:19,372 --> 01:11:23,173
Speaker 15: They were Roman Catholics, and the reason she adopted me

1464
01:11:23,213 --> 01:11:26,933
Speaker 15: out was because basically she was as soon as she

1465
01:11:27,013 --> 01:11:28,812
Speaker 15: got pregnant, she was taken from that town.

1466
01:11:29,253 --> 01:11:29,452
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1467
01:11:30,452 --> 01:11:32,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a rough time, wasn't it. That kind

1468
01:11:32,652 --> 01:11:32,852
Speaker 2: of thing.

1469
01:11:32,973 --> 01:11:35,972
Speaker 15: Yeah, And then she had to get rid of the baby,

1470
01:11:36,093 --> 01:11:40,612
Speaker 15: so I was adopted out. And basically she said, oh, look,

1471
01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:44,173
Speaker 15: I wanted you in a religion, in a Roman Catholic family.

1472
01:11:44,213 --> 01:11:46,253
Speaker 15: That's what I told him. They had to do. You know,

1473
01:11:46,732 --> 01:11:49,452
Speaker 15: I don't think you get a choice on that. But

1474
01:11:50,492 --> 01:11:54,093
Speaker 15: I was like, well, because my dods apparents they don't

1475
01:11:54,133 --> 01:11:57,732
Speaker 15: believe the atheist No, they don't believe in God, and

1476
01:11:58,053 --> 01:12:01,852
Speaker 15: I have different beliefs to them as well. But I

1477
01:12:01,893 --> 01:12:04,492
Speaker 15: was like, why would you in this situation, why would

1478
01:12:04,492 --> 01:12:07,412
Speaker 15: you be bringing that up, you know? And then and

1479
01:12:07,452 --> 01:12:09,932
Speaker 15: then I asked about my father and she gave me

1480
01:12:10,013 --> 01:12:13,372
Speaker 15: his name. She'll see you'll never find him, you know.

1481
01:12:13,572 --> 01:12:16,972
Speaker 15: So she was really quite I know, it just didn't

1482
01:12:17,692 --> 01:12:22,652
Speaker 15: click right. And then when I went back up north

1483
01:12:22,732 --> 01:12:26,093
Speaker 15: and she never got in touch with me again. And

1484
01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:29,492
Speaker 15: then one day I was moving christ Church and I

1485
01:12:30,452 --> 01:12:32,532
Speaker 15: got hold of her again. So, look, I'm moving to

1486
01:12:32,612 --> 01:12:35,892
Speaker 15: christ Church and I hear that you've moved here from

1487
01:12:36,572 --> 01:12:40,093
Speaker 15: my grandmother, and why don't we catch up, you know,

1488
01:12:40,213 --> 01:12:42,253
Speaker 15: have a chat. And she was like, oh, no, I

1489
01:12:42,253 --> 01:12:44,732
Speaker 15: don't think I can. Actually I don't think I want to.

1490
01:12:45,532 --> 01:12:48,692
Speaker 15: And I was like, oh, okay, well and I'm not

1491
01:12:48,692 --> 01:12:50,173
Speaker 15: going to be hard on her for it.

1492
01:12:51,412 --> 01:12:52,972
Speaker 7: I was like, okay, well that's what you want, that's

1493
01:12:53,013 --> 01:12:53,532
Speaker 7: what you want.

1494
01:12:55,652 --> 01:12:57,612
Speaker 2: Do you think that there might have been because the

1495
01:12:57,652 --> 01:13:01,892
Speaker 2: emotions going through her head, because even though it's not

1496
01:13:02,013 --> 01:13:04,652
Speaker 2: her fault what happened, and it was, it was, you know,

1497
01:13:04,812 --> 01:13:07,933
Speaker 2: it was the times, she is probably dealing with a

1498
01:13:07,933 --> 01:13:11,172
Speaker 2: little bit of guilt, and sometimes guilt can manifest in

1499
01:13:11,213 --> 01:13:13,933
Speaker 2: and interesting ways. Did you see what I mean ly.

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01:13:15,053 --> 01:13:16,333
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I understand.

1501
01:13:16,412 --> 01:13:16,532
Speaker 7: Now.

1502
01:13:18,933 --> 01:13:22,692
Speaker 15: She had a son and my half brother, and she

1503
01:13:22,812 --> 01:13:24,812
Speaker 15: said to me, I don't really like you that you've

1504
01:13:24,812 --> 01:13:29,173
Speaker 15: got I've got tatoos, right, And she didn't like that,

1505
01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:31,372
Speaker 15: and she was like, I don't want any bad influences

1506
01:13:31,412 --> 01:13:35,013
Speaker 15: on my son. Wow, well you know, I'm not going

1507
01:13:35,053 --> 01:13:37,492
Speaker 15: to push anything on him. And I met him and

1508
01:13:37,572 --> 01:13:39,053
Speaker 15: he's great. He's a great kid. He was in the

1509
01:13:39,173 --> 01:13:41,412
Speaker 15: army at the time, and she I don't think she

1510
01:13:41,452 --> 01:13:46,412
Speaker 15: hadn't even worry about And he was on my Facebook

1511
01:13:46,412 --> 01:13:48,812
Speaker 15: for a while and then he just took himself off.

1512
01:13:48,853 --> 01:13:51,492
Speaker 15: This pid always said hay birthday or at that time,

1513
01:13:51,532 --> 01:13:54,253
Speaker 15: but I never really heard from him either. And I

1514
01:13:54,293 --> 01:13:56,652
Speaker 15: was like, Okay, I don't know what to do there.

1515
01:13:58,013 --> 01:14:01,572
Speaker 15: The bonus thing was I found out my background was

1516
01:14:01,612 --> 01:14:06,333
Speaker 15: Scottish Irish and on my father's side was Irish Scottish.

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01:14:07,572 --> 01:14:10,732
Speaker 15: Because I and she gave me the name of my father,

1518
01:14:11,532 --> 01:14:15,053
Speaker 15: I decided I will hold go and find him. And

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01:14:15,572 --> 01:14:17,612
Speaker 15: the only thing she knew about him is that he'd

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01:14:17,612 --> 01:14:20,333
Speaker 15: come from Australia and he was back in the day

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01:14:20,492 --> 01:14:24,452
Speaker 15: they used to go to the different pubs and be

1522
01:14:24,812 --> 01:14:28,052
Speaker 15: waiters at the different pubs because you know, the government

1523
01:14:28,133 --> 01:14:29,372
Speaker 15: owned the pubs back then.

1524
01:14:29,532 --> 01:14:31,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at the cargo now.

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01:14:32,532 --> 01:14:36,852
Speaker 15: Yeah, so so, and he was a firefighter and chrostier.

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01:14:36,973 --> 01:14:40,892
Speaker 15: So I went and I actually went up to the

1527
01:14:40,893 --> 01:14:45,213
Speaker 15: fire department and said, who's the oldest firefighter here? And

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01:14:45,253 --> 01:14:48,972
Speaker 15: they said, well, well this guy, yeah, he's in charge

1529
01:14:49,013 --> 01:14:49,652
Speaker 15: of everything now.

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01:14:49,812 --> 01:14:50,652
Speaker 7: He lives though.

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01:14:50,732 --> 01:14:53,612
Speaker 15: There was a house that the fire department had in

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01:14:53,732 --> 01:14:58,652
Speaker 15: christ Church, so he's over there now. And I was okay,

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01:14:58,732 --> 01:15:01,333
Speaker 15: so off my wind around and knocked on the door

1534
01:15:01,372 --> 01:15:04,053
Speaker 15: and then I said who I was and who I

1535
01:15:04,093 --> 01:15:06,412
Speaker 15: was looking for, and he was like, wow, you're the

1536
01:15:06,452 --> 01:15:10,052
Speaker 15: sick in person to come here looking for that person,

1537
01:15:10,652 --> 01:15:13,812
Speaker 15: because apparently he had a daughter in christ Church as well.

1538
01:15:14,293 --> 01:15:16,412
Speaker 2: Oh wow, my half.

1539
01:15:16,253 --> 01:15:21,852
Speaker 15: Sister somewhere if he is my father, and so he

1540
01:15:21,893 --> 01:15:24,412
Speaker 15: gave me his number and I wrung him and he

1541
01:15:24,612 --> 01:15:28,253
Speaker 15: basically he was like, I don't know, I can't remember,

1542
01:15:28,572 --> 01:15:30,333
Speaker 15: you know. I was like, well, you know, I can't

1543
01:15:30,372 --> 01:15:33,412
Speaker 15: remember everything too, you know, I kind of get that.

1544
01:15:34,133 --> 01:15:36,892
Speaker 15: But were you in that area at the time. He's like, yeah,

1545
01:15:36,933 --> 01:15:40,133
Speaker 15: I was, but you know, they wasn't that keen. But

1546
01:15:40,293 --> 01:15:42,173
Speaker 15: what I did find out was that he was Irish

1547
01:15:42,173 --> 01:15:45,772
Speaker 15: Scottish and that he had three children in Australia. So

1548
01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:49,333
Speaker 15: but that was as far as it went. Like I

1549
01:15:49,372 --> 01:15:51,932
Speaker 15: gave him my number and my address and he never

1550
01:15:51,973 --> 01:15:56,732
Speaker 15: got back to me. So I don't know. I yeah,

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01:15:57,452 --> 01:16:00,132
Speaker 15: I guess my adopted mother would say that I'm still

1552
01:16:00,853 --> 01:16:02,892
Speaker 15: I'm still not all right with everything, you know.

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01:16:03,173 --> 01:16:04,972
Speaker 7: Yeah, so what do you do?

1554
01:16:05,293 --> 01:16:08,972
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I mean, but you're your adopted peers are

1555
01:16:09,612 --> 01:16:13,013
Speaker 2: fantastic and you have that family support with them.

1556
01:16:13,293 --> 01:16:18,093
Speaker 15: Oh, you know, they are the best people ever, you know.

1557
01:16:18,572 --> 01:16:21,972
Speaker 15: But the problem is I never felt connected to anyone

1558
01:16:21,973 --> 01:16:25,492
Speaker 15: else in their family. All my cousins and all the

1559
01:16:25,572 --> 01:16:28,812
Speaker 15: aunties and uncles, everybody was involved with our family. I

1560
01:16:28,853 --> 01:16:32,333
Speaker 15: couldn't connect to them as family. And so my.

1561
01:16:33,093 --> 01:16:33,972
Speaker 7: Doctor mum and dad.

1562
01:16:34,372 --> 01:16:37,652
Speaker 15: Definitely my mom and dad. I didn't we weren't. I

1563
01:16:37,652 --> 01:16:39,133
Speaker 15: guess we didn't spend a lot of time with them

1564
01:16:39,173 --> 01:16:42,253
Speaker 15: either because we went up north, but I couldn't connect

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01:16:42,253 --> 01:16:43,012
Speaker 15: to any of them.

1566
01:16:43,173 --> 01:16:46,692
Speaker 4: So yeah, Lee, thank you very much for giving us

1567
01:16:46,692 --> 01:16:48,293
Speaker 4: a buzz. A hell of a thing you've gone through,

1568
01:16:48,333 --> 01:16:51,293
Speaker 4: but appreciate your candor. It is seven to.

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01:16:50,973 --> 01:16:54,492
Speaker 1: Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of

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01:16:54,492 --> 01:16:57,813
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

1571
01:16:58,013 --> 01:16:58,652
Speaker 1: news talks.

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01:16:58,692 --> 01:17:02,253
Speaker 3: He'd be news talks, there'd be. It is four to three.

1573
01:17:02,772 --> 01:17:06,013
Speaker 2: He's a text from Marcus that was very cool from Lee.

1574
01:17:06,572 --> 01:17:09,412
Speaker 2: Just incredible. What an amazing human being, one amazing story.

1575
01:17:09,452 --> 01:17:11,772
Speaker 2: You just felt everything that you've been going through. I

1576
01:17:11,812 --> 01:17:15,372
Speaker 2: hope you find peace with all of this. From Marcus. Yeah,

1577
01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:17,173
Speaker 2: great story from Lee, what a great guy. We just

1578
01:17:17,452 --> 01:17:19,692
Speaker 2: had a word to off here because we had to

1579
01:17:19,692 --> 01:17:21,612
Speaker 2: cut them off of the ads. They came in like

1580
01:17:21,652 --> 01:17:23,532
Speaker 2: a freight train and knocked Lee off when we were

1581
01:17:23,572 --> 01:17:26,093
Speaker 2: really enjoying a story. But what a lovely chat.

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01:17:26,213 --> 01:17:28,612
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolute great human being. We're going to carry this

1583
01:17:28,692 --> 01:17:30,652
Speaker 4: on after three o'clock because so many people want to

1584
01:17:30,652 --> 01:17:32,572
Speaker 4: have a chat about these stories and love to hear yours.

1585
01:17:32,652 --> 01:17:34,892
Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you

1586
01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:36,772
Speaker 4: were a sperm donor, we're really keen to have a

1587
01:17:36,853 --> 01:17:38,932
Speaker 4: chat with you. If one of your children did get

1588
01:17:38,933 --> 01:17:41,652
Speaker 4: in touch, and on the opposite side of the equation,

1589
01:17:41,772 --> 01:17:44,293
Speaker 4: if you were a donor conceived, love to hear your

1590
01:17:44,333 --> 01:17:47,213
Speaker 4: story and adoption as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1591
01:17:47,253 --> 01:17:49,572
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. Weve got new sport

1592
01:17:49,692 --> 01:17:53,133
Speaker 4: and weather coming up. Great to have your company as always.

1593
01:17:53,173 --> 01:17:55,772
Speaker 4: Hope you having a great afternoon. You're listening to matt

1594
01:17:55,812 --> 01:17:57,173
Speaker 4: and Tyler. Stay right here.

1595
01:17:57,293 --> 01:18:00,932
Speaker 3: We will be back very shortly with more of your stories.

1596
01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:23,933
Speaker 1: Yeah, your new homes are insateful and entertaining.

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01:18:24,013 --> 01:18:24,253
Speaker 10: Talk.

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01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:30,173
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sedby News.

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01:18:29,933 --> 01:18:30,772
Speaker 3: Talk s Edby.

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01:18:30,812 --> 01:18:33,452
Speaker 4: Welcome back into the pro into the program. It's seven

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01:18:33,492 --> 01:18:34,093
Speaker 4: past three.

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01:18:34,652 --> 01:18:37,293
Speaker 2: Just seconds ago, Tyler Adams on the other side of

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01:18:37,293 --> 01:18:40,852
Speaker 2: the desk there from me said these headphones I'm wearing

1604
01:18:40,973 --> 01:18:44,933
Speaker 2: aren't my normal headphones. I feel discombobulated. Yeah, and I

1605
01:18:45,013 --> 01:18:46,173
Speaker 2: ran out of time because we had to go on

1606
01:18:46,213 --> 01:18:48,612
Speaker 2: here to say does that mean because I've got my

1607
01:18:48,692 --> 01:18:51,213
Speaker 2: current headphones that work on I'm combobulated.

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01:18:51,612 --> 01:18:52,412
Speaker 3: I suppose it does.

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01:18:52,492 --> 01:18:54,852
Speaker 2: If you're discombobulated, I must be combobulated. But no one

1610
01:18:54,853 --> 01:18:55,973
Speaker 2: ever says combobulated.

1611
01:18:56,372 --> 01:18:58,452
Speaker 4: It's a good point. Nine two nine two. I've never

1612
01:18:58,452 --> 01:19:01,013
Speaker 4: thought about that. It's a great word, discombobulated. I'm fair,

1613
01:19:01,133 --> 01:19:01,973
Speaker 4: you combobulated.

1614
01:19:02,053 --> 01:19:03,493
Speaker 2: I'm feeling very combobulated.

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01:19:03,612 --> 01:19:06,372
Speaker 4: You look very combobulated, I've got to say. But nine

1616
01:19:06,412 --> 01:19:08,812
Speaker 4: to nine two, if you know. And we have been

1617
01:19:08,853 --> 01:19:12,253
Speaker 4: talking about sperm donors, so this was a great story

1618
01:19:12,293 --> 01:19:12,772
Speaker 4: in the Herald.

1619
01:19:12,812 --> 01:19:13,652
Speaker 3: You can give it a read.

1620
01:19:13,732 --> 01:19:16,532
Speaker 4: The headline is my donor and me what it was

1621
01:19:16,612 --> 01:19:19,692
Speaker 4: like meeting my sperm donor after years of wondering. It

1622
01:19:19,692 --> 01:19:21,652
Speaker 4: was written by Rachel Mayer, and we had a chat

1623
01:19:21,692 --> 01:19:22,492
Speaker 4: with her earlier this hour.

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01:19:22,532 --> 01:19:22,892
Speaker 3: Beginning.

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01:19:22,933 --> 01:19:26,852
Speaker 4: So many stories, adoptions stories and stories of being a

1626
01:19:26,893 --> 01:19:29,253
Speaker 4: donor conceived child. Oh one hundred and eighty teen eighty

1627
01:19:29,293 --> 01:19:30,053
Speaker 4: is the number to call.

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01:19:30,372 --> 01:19:32,412
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, not a donor story. But I'm sixty years

1629
01:19:32,412 --> 01:19:34,013
Speaker 2: old and found out about a week ago that I

1630
01:19:34,053 --> 01:19:36,333
Speaker 2: have a cousin I had never heard about before. I

1631
01:19:36,372 --> 01:19:39,093
Speaker 2: had grown up knowing my cousin as an only child.

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01:19:39,173 --> 01:19:41,293
Speaker 2: But it seems that before my aunt was married, she

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01:19:41,372 --> 01:19:43,892
Speaker 2: fell pregnant. It's I need to him fell pregnant instead

1634
01:19:43,933 --> 01:19:46,652
Speaker 2: of got pregnant. Her boyfriend at the time said he

1635
01:19:46,692 --> 01:19:48,772
Speaker 2: was unable to marry her and she was sent to

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01:19:48,812 --> 01:19:51,173
Speaker 2: a Catholic hospital where as soon as the baby was

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01:19:51,213 --> 01:19:53,933
Speaker 2: born she was taken away. From what my cousin that

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01:19:53,973 --> 01:19:56,333
Speaker 2: I grew up with has told me, her newly found

1639
01:19:56,452 --> 01:19:59,173
Speaker 2: sister decided to do a DNA test and after years

1640
01:19:59,173 --> 01:20:01,852
Speaker 2: of searching, this led to my aunt. Needless to say,

1641
01:20:02,253 --> 01:20:07,612
Speaker 2: they had a very happy reunion recently. How good Karen. Hi, guys.

1642
01:20:07,772 --> 01:20:10,012
Speaker 2: We're currently trying to find our half brother who would

1643
01:20:10,053 --> 01:20:12,492
Speaker 2: have been adopted in Christchitch about fifty five years ago,

1644
01:20:12,853 --> 01:20:15,052
Speaker 2: and mum died thirty five years ago, and we found

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01:20:15,093 --> 01:20:17,732
Speaker 2: out last December that she had a baby boy when

1646
01:20:17,772 --> 01:20:21,412
Speaker 2: she was sixteen. Because we're not one of the adopted parties,

1647
01:20:21,532 --> 01:20:23,692
Speaker 2: we've had to apply through the court to get the

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01:20:23,692 --> 01:20:27,253
Speaker 2: adoption records. These were submitted in February this year and

1649
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:30,493
Speaker 2: we are still waiting to hear back. It's really frustrating.

1650
01:20:30,532 --> 01:20:33,932
Speaker 2: The court isn't returning our calls or our emails. I've

1651
01:20:33,973 --> 01:20:36,133
Speaker 2: been trying to talk to someone for months. Hopefully we

1652
01:20:36,173 --> 01:20:37,892
Speaker 2: hear something soon. I hope you do as well as

1653
01:20:37,933 --> 01:20:38,852
Speaker 2: thank you for your text.

1654
01:20:38,933 --> 01:20:41,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, keep us updated with that. One oh e one

1655
01:20:41,173 --> 01:20:42,932
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1656
01:20:42,933 --> 01:20:44,652
Speaker 4: Love to hear your stories.

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01:20:44,213 --> 01:20:47,132
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler. Great subject matter and well presented by yourselves.

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01:20:47,133 --> 01:20:49,013
Speaker 2: Top listening. Thanks rober See. I don't normally read out

1659
01:20:49,013 --> 01:20:51,812
Speaker 2: the positive ones, but I started reading that and so on.

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01:20:51,893 --> 01:20:52,932
Speaker 3: You you're a top man.

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01:20:53,013 --> 01:20:54,612
Speaker 2: You feel a bit slimy, you know, we get a

1662
01:20:54,612 --> 01:20:56,372
Speaker 2: lot of positive texts, but you feel a bit slimy

1663
01:20:56,452 --> 01:20:57,812
Speaker 2: reading them. Ountain But that was nice.

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01:20:57,812 --> 01:21:02,452
Speaker 3: Thank you, roberthew Zealander. Hi you Joey. Hello, how are

1665
01:21:02,492 --> 01:21:05,372
Speaker 3: you very good? We're keen to hear your story.

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01:21:06,692 --> 01:21:11,852
Speaker 19: My story goes back to two down eighteen. I've both

1667
01:21:11,973 --> 01:21:17,213
Speaker 19: in the genealogy terms my father's brick wall and discovered

1668
01:21:17,253 --> 01:21:20,453
Speaker 19: he jumps up in New Zealand and changed his name completely,

1669
01:21:20,933 --> 01:21:25,013
Speaker 19: leaving a family in the UK. May last year, I

1670
01:21:25,133 --> 01:21:30,412
Speaker 19: made contact with his granddaughter, my niece, and I have

1671
01:21:30,612 --> 01:21:34,093
Speaker 19: just returned last Thursday by meeting her for the first time.

1672
01:21:34,612 --> 01:21:36,852
Speaker 2: Wow, how cool, very.

1673
01:21:36,732 --> 01:21:42,612
Speaker 19: Emotional, very emotional. Wow did we had known each other

1674
01:21:42,692 --> 01:21:47,093
Speaker 19: for the whole of our lives. My two children and

1675
01:21:47,213 --> 01:21:50,892
Speaker 19: her had the same grandfather, but he is my father.

1676
01:21:52,093 --> 01:21:54,692
Speaker 19: He had two families twenty years apart, one in the

1677
01:21:54,853 --> 01:21:56,452
Speaker 19: UK and one on New Zealand.

1678
01:21:57,053 --> 01:21:59,652
Speaker 2: And did he keep any contact up with the other

1679
01:21:59,732 --> 01:22:01,253
Speaker 2: family when he started this new family.

1680
01:22:02,213 --> 01:22:02,412
Speaker 16: No.

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01:22:04,173 --> 01:22:07,572
Speaker 19: Only And we talked about this last week in the UK.

1682
01:22:08,333 --> 01:22:10,732
Speaker 19: We hope he was watching and saw what I had

1683
01:22:10,893 --> 01:22:16,093
Speaker 19: discovered through DNA. Man, it was as pleased as we were,

1684
01:22:16,372 --> 01:22:18,173
Speaker 19: and as emotional as we were over it.

1685
01:22:18,253 --> 01:22:24,972
Speaker 4: Obviously, how nervous were you joy making that trip over

1686
01:22:25,053 --> 01:22:27,213
Speaker 4: to the UK. That must have been something on that

1687
01:22:27,253 --> 01:22:31,773
Speaker 4: flight thinking about meeting meeting this family of yours.

1688
01:22:32,133 --> 01:22:34,772
Speaker 19: It was even more nervous that night. The morning I

1689
01:22:34,772 --> 01:22:38,092
Speaker 19: sat here in May last year and made a cold

1690
01:22:38,213 --> 01:22:39,572
Speaker 19: call to someone.

1691
01:22:40,093 --> 01:22:41,853
Speaker 11: Who didn't know I existed.

1692
01:22:43,213 --> 01:22:43,372
Speaker 9: Them.

1693
01:22:43,532 --> 01:22:46,133
Speaker 19: Was told by her hold her husband she thought she'd

1694
01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:49,133
Speaker 19: been scammed. The family thought it was a scam. I

1695
01:22:49,133 --> 01:22:51,812
Speaker 19: sent her the information and she rang me twelve hours

1696
01:22:51,893 --> 01:22:55,333
Speaker 19: later to say I've actually got family in New Zealand.

1697
01:22:56,253 --> 01:22:57,892
Speaker 19: She's only she was only child.

1698
01:22:59,372 --> 01:23:02,812
Speaker 2: Did you notice any sort of similar, you know, traits?

1699
01:23:05,253 --> 01:23:08,772
Speaker 19: I had a photo of her almost immediately after intact.

1700
01:23:09,173 --> 01:23:12,493
Speaker 19: Everyone said the apple hadn't fallen fast from the tree.

1701
01:23:13,532 --> 01:23:16,572
Speaker 19: My daughter and my son actually met her in September

1702
01:23:16,652 --> 01:23:19,293
Speaker 19: last year because he was in UK and she went

1703
01:23:19,372 --> 01:23:21,052
Speaker 19: to meet him as he came to on the train

1704
01:23:21,093 --> 01:23:23,652
Speaker 19: from Paris, and he came back and said, Mum, you

1705
01:23:23,732 --> 01:23:27,253
Speaker 19: have to go. My answer to that was at my age,

1706
01:23:27,293 --> 01:23:32,412
Speaker 19: and I admit to being over eighty, I said, not

1707
01:23:32,532 --> 01:23:35,532
Speaker 19: on my own. I've only ever been to Australia before,

1708
01:23:37,853 --> 01:23:41,572
Speaker 19: and my daughter and her husband decided that we would go.

1709
01:23:43,893 --> 01:23:46,612
Speaker 19: So I've just got home. As I say, at home,

1710
01:23:46,772 --> 01:23:49,852
Speaker 19: I'm still unpacking and trying to get my head around

1711
01:23:49,893 --> 01:23:52,812
Speaker 19: what I found and what I saw. But we were

1712
01:23:53,173 --> 01:23:55,852
Speaker 19: it was just you'd have thought we'd known each other.

1713
01:23:56,213 --> 01:23:59,213
Speaker 19: And on their farm they had actually put up a

1714
01:23:59,253 --> 01:24:00,132
Speaker 19: New Zealand flag.

1715
01:24:01,372 --> 01:24:03,053
Speaker 3: It's beautiful to welcome you.

1716
01:24:03,973 --> 01:24:07,572
Speaker 2: Yes, oh wow. And when you say that your your

1717
01:24:07,612 --> 01:24:10,532
Speaker 2: father jumped ship, what do you mean by that? Did

1718
01:24:10,532 --> 01:24:12,933
Speaker 2: he actually jump to it?

1719
01:24:12,933 --> 01:24:17,532
Speaker 19: It was quite common back in the thirties. My husband's father,

1720
01:24:17,652 --> 01:24:19,892
Speaker 19: my late husband's father, also jumped ship in New Zealand

1721
01:24:19,893 --> 01:24:24,852
Speaker 19: and changed his name slightly. My father jump ship in

1722
01:24:24,933 --> 01:24:29,732
Speaker 19: nineteen thirty one and changed his name completely. So of

1723
01:24:29,812 --> 01:24:32,732
Speaker 19: course I would. I could never find anything out about

1724
01:24:32,772 --> 01:24:34,333
Speaker 19: him until DNA came along.

1725
01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:38,492
Speaker 2: Well, and do you And what does that make you

1726
01:24:38,532 --> 01:24:40,333
Speaker 2: think about your father?

1727
01:24:40,452 --> 01:24:44,572
Speaker 19: Now that you know that, my younger brother and I

1728
01:24:44,612 --> 01:24:47,692
Speaker 19: still say he was a good father to us. He

1729
01:24:47,772 --> 01:24:52,492
Speaker 19: never harmed us. He was there all our lives and

1730
01:24:52,612 --> 01:24:55,213
Speaker 19: quite frankly, I think we're all the whole family has

1731
01:24:55,253 --> 01:24:58,093
Speaker 19: actually got the God's back. Those in u K and

1732
01:24:58,253 --> 01:25:01,932
Speaker 19: the one here, we're like, how did this happen?

1733
01:25:02,492 --> 01:25:04,012
Speaker 2: What did they think it happened to him?

1734
01:25:05,372 --> 01:25:08,452
Speaker 19: They understood that he had gone to see and to

1735
01:25:08,572 --> 01:25:11,173
Speaker 19: be drowned at sea. But when we went through the

1736
01:25:11,213 --> 01:25:14,572
Speaker 19: box in the UK last week, among all the stuff

1737
01:25:14,612 --> 01:25:17,253
Speaker 19: that my niece had of her mother's that she had

1738
01:25:17,293 --> 01:25:21,333
Speaker 19: not been through, we found that they had been legally

1739
01:25:21,412 --> 01:25:25,892
Speaker 19: separated in nineteen twenty seven. He came to New Zealand,

1740
01:25:26,213 --> 01:25:29,452
Speaker 19: I've discovered six times on the same ship that was

1741
01:25:29,492 --> 01:25:34,372
Speaker 19: in forwards as a writer on the ship, and finally

1742
01:25:34,412 --> 01:25:35,812
Speaker 19: decided he was going to stay here.

1743
01:25:37,013 --> 01:25:39,572
Speaker 2: Well, from your perspective, that was a fantastic thing, because

1744
01:25:39,612 --> 01:25:42,572
Speaker 2: if you wouldn't exist't I wouldn't be here.

1745
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:47,412
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, but it's been a yeah, I can tell

1746
01:25:47,412 --> 01:25:50,573
Speaker 19: you now the last two weeks have been extremely emotional

1747
01:25:50,652 --> 01:25:53,892
Speaker 19: for everybody. I bet but to the next to be

1748
01:25:54,532 --> 01:25:59,812
Speaker 19: greeted and welcomed and just part of the family. I

1749
01:25:59,893 --> 01:26:02,093
Speaker 19: kept being told with part of the family. In fact,

1750
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:04,173
Speaker 19: I've been home since Thursday and I've really had two

1751
01:26:04,173 --> 01:26:04,732
Speaker 19: phone calls.

1752
01:26:04,933 --> 01:26:06,652
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, Yeah, because I was just going to

1753
01:26:06,652 --> 01:26:08,053
Speaker 2: ask you if you're going to stay in contact. The

1754
01:26:08,093 --> 01:26:09,532
Speaker 2: sounds that you definitely have no.

1755
01:26:09,532 --> 01:26:11,492
Speaker 19: No, no, They're asked telling me.

1756
01:26:11,452 --> 01:26:12,892
Speaker 3: To come back.

1757
01:26:13,333 --> 01:26:14,692
Speaker 19: I'll have to win love.

1758
01:26:15,253 --> 01:26:15,933
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1759
01:26:16,053 --> 01:26:18,333
Speaker 4: Joy, What a wonderful story, and it sounds like you

1760
01:26:18,812 --> 01:26:21,412
Speaker 4: never gave up, and what a journey and how long

1761
01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:24,612
Speaker 4: it took you to track down what had happened. And

1762
01:26:24,772 --> 01:26:27,292
Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of talk about those DNA companies,

1763
01:26:27,333 --> 01:26:31,492
Speaker 4: but man, it obviously came through for you and your family.

1764
01:26:31,572 --> 01:26:34,212
Speaker 2: Incredible, all right, even if they do sell the information

1765
01:26:34,293 --> 01:26:34,932
Speaker 2: down the line.

1766
01:26:35,053 --> 01:26:36,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is that as well.

1767
01:26:36,452 --> 01:26:39,372
Speaker 2: Hey, just on that other topic we were talking about, discombobulated.

1768
01:26:39,372 --> 01:26:41,093
Speaker 2: You know there is no I've just been looking this up.

1769
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:44,452
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as combobulated. So discombobulated was a

1770
01:26:44,492 --> 01:26:48,932
Speaker 2: word that was made up in eighteen thirty five, and

1771
01:26:49,013 --> 01:26:53,972
Speaker 2: it was the fashion of the time in humorous columns

1772
01:26:54,013 --> 01:26:57,172
Speaker 2: to make up words that sounded Latin that were completely

1773
01:26:57,213 --> 01:27:00,652
Speaker 2: made up, so there was never combobulated. Someone said discombobulated,

1774
01:27:01,133 --> 01:27:03,293
Speaker 2: and it was kind of like when you comb something,

1775
01:27:03,492 --> 01:27:06,612
Speaker 2: you even something out, you know, like you're bringing order

1776
01:27:06,652 --> 01:27:10,612
Speaker 2: to it. So discombobulated was just as completely made up

1777
01:27:10,612 --> 01:27:12,972
Speaker 2: word for a joke, and it was first printed in

1778
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:14,293
Speaker 2: eighteen thirty five.

1779
01:27:14,532 --> 01:27:16,692
Speaker 4: I love that because it sounds so a high brow

1780
01:27:16,732 --> 01:27:18,852
Speaker 4: saying discombobulated, But it turns out it which is a

1781
01:27:18,893 --> 01:27:19,452
Speaker 4: nonsense word.

1782
01:27:19,532 --> 01:27:23,772
Speaker 2: Now we'll get to the bottom of gruntled and disgruntled, right,

1783
01:27:23,853 --> 01:27:24,932
Speaker 2: we'll do that next.

1784
01:27:24,933 --> 01:27:27,012
Speaker 3: But oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

1785
01:27:27,013 --> 01:27:27,412
Speaker 3: to call.

1786
01:27:27,333 --> 01:27:29,692
Speaker 4: Love to hear your stories if you're adopted or you're

1787
01:27:29,692 --> 01:27:32,372
Speaker 4: a sperm donor or donor conceived. Really can never chat

1788
01:27:32,412 --> 01:27:33,652
Speaker 4: with your sixteen past three.

1789
01:27:34,173 --> 01:27:37,772
Speaker 3: US talk said be it is eighteen past three, all.

1790
01:27:37,772 --> 01:27:39,812
Speaker 2: Right, so you know we've got a side topic going

1791
01:27:39,853 --> 01:27:45,372
Speaker 2: here with this fantastic main topic. But so gruntled is

1792
01:27:45,372 --> 01:27:49,213
Speaker 2: actually a word, so discombobulated. There's no combobulated because discombobulated

1793
01:27:49,213 --> 01:27:50,612
Speaker 2: was a word that was made up in eighteen thirty

1794
01:27:50,652 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 2: five for a joke. Good research, but gruntled does exist,

1795
01:27:53,253 --> 01:27:56,252
Speaker 2: So you can be gruntled. Gruntled means please, satisfied, and contented,

1796
01:27:56,452 --> 01:27:57,533
Speaker 2: and you can be disgruntled.

1797
01:27:58,133 --> 01:27:59,852
Speaker 3: That that blows my mind, to be.

1798
01:27:59,772 --> 01:28:02,732
Speaker 2: Honest, according to dictionary dot com, and it told means

1799
01:28:02,732 --> 01:28:07,132
Speaker 2: you're happy. Yeah, okay, there we go. I'm hugely gruntled.

1800
01:28:07,732 --> 01:28:09,253
Speaker 3: You were usually gruntled.

1801
01:28:09,293 --> 01:28:10,333
Speaker 2: And I'm also whelmed?

1802
01:28:10,812 --> 01:28:14,412
Speaker 4: Is welder word though? I saw that texts coming through overwhelmed, underwhelmed?

1803
01:28:14,412 --> 01:28:16,133
Speaker 4: Can you just be whelmed? Is that somewhere right in

1804
01:28:16,173 --> 01:28:16,532
Speaker 4: the middle.

1805
01:28:17,053 --> 01:28:19,412
Speaker 3: You're just neither happy nor sad, You're just whelmed your

1806
01:28:19,452 --> 01:28:20,132
Speaker 3: room temperature.

1807
01:28:20,253 --> 01:28:22,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just whelmed.

1808
01:28:22,452 --> 01:28:23,892
Speaker 3: I'm pretty whelmed most of the time.

1809
01:28:24,133 --> 01:28:27,652
Speaker 2: I'm gruntled. I'm wound, I'm combobulated. Let's get on with

1810
01:28:27,692 --> 01:28:28,052
Speaker 2: the show.

1811
01:28:28,173 --> 01:28:29,652
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1812
01:28:29,692 --> 01:28:33,293
Speaker 4: Having a great chat about adoption stories or if you

1813
01:28:33,412 --> 01:28:36,372
Speaker 4: were donor conceived and what kicked off this story was

1814
01:28:36,412 --> 01:28:39,093
Speaker 4: a great article in The Herald by Rachel Mayer who

1815
01:28:39,093 --> 01:28:43,012
Speaker 4: has just gone and met her a biological father after

1816
01:28:43,093 --> 01:28:44,932
Speaker 4: discovering she was donor conceived.

1817
01:28:45,572 --> 01:28:47,852
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, when you're talking about this whole sperm donor thing,

1818
01:28:47,933 --> 01:28:51,532
Speaker 2: can you go through the actual process of getting the sperm.

1819
01:28:51,532 --> 01:28:53,492
Speaker 2: Now I think we'll actually skip that one. Thanks Texter.

1820
01:28:54,013 --> 01:28:55,532
Speaker 3: You can look it up if you just google it.

1821
01:28:56,053 --> 01:28:58,093
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll drill right into that little part

1822
01:28:58,093 --> 01:28:59,452
Speaker 2: of the story.

1823
01:28:59,532 --> 01:29:01,572
Speaker 3: No, No, you can find that information out easier.

1824
01:29:01,652 --> 01:29:04,293
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can look that up online. Vanessa, Welcome

1825
01:29:04,333 --> 01:29:04,732
Speaker 2: to the show.

1826
01:29:06,133 --> 01:29:11,892
Speaker 3: Hi, we are well. Hope you are too, Yes, yes,

1827
01:29:12,013 --> 01:29:12,492
Speaker 3: I'm good.

1828
01:29:14,093 --> 01:29:16,973
Speaker 17: I haven't wrung room anytimes. A little bit nervous. But

1829
01:29:17,293 --> 01:29:20,732
Speaker 17: I was adopted as a wee baby into a wonderful

1830
01:29:20,772 --> 01:29:25,772
Speaker 17: family and you know, a happy life and all. But

1831
01:29:26,253 --> 01:29:28,572
Speaker 17: I didn't wonder who I was and where I was from.

1832
01:29:29,293 --> 01:29:32,092
Speaker 17: So I met my booth mother when I was about

1833
01:29:32,093 --> 01:29:38,652
Speaker 17: forty and who she knew? Who my father was, my

1834
01:29:38,732 --> 01:29:41,933
Speaker 17: birth father, but she'd never tell me. And there was

1835
01:29:41,933 --> 01:29:46,213
Speaker 17: another lady, did you, And and because she wouldn't tell me,

1836
01:29:46,293 --> 01:29:48,213
Speaker 17: they wouldn't tell me. So I've never been able to

1837
01:29:48,213 --> 01:29:52,012
Speaker 17: find out who my father is. I know that he

1838
01:29:52,093 --> 01:29:54,213
Speaker 17: was a sailor from Australia.

1839
01:29:55,652 --> 01:29:59,772
Speaker 2: So you still haven't found out, Vanissa, No, No, what

1840
01:29:59,933 --> 01:30:03,292
Speaker 2: what evidues have you tried? What have you tried? Avenues

1841
01:30:03,333 --> 01:30:07,452
Speaker 2: outside of you know, asking family members, have you tried dnatists?

1842
01:30:07,532 --> 01:30:08,972
Speaker 2: Or researcher anything like that.

1843
01:30:10,692 --> 01:30:15,612
Speaker 17: I don't even give a name. So I don't want

1844
01:30:15,612 --> 01:30:19,772
Speaker 17: to waste money. I'm not a welder person. But if

1845
01:30:19,772 --> 01:30:22,133
Speaker 17: I did a DNAGS, would it give me some sort

1846
01:30:22,173 --> 01:30:24,812
Speaker 17: of idea or would it be just the poke.

1847
01:30:24,652 --> 01:30:25,173
Speaker 6: Of the dark?

1848
01:30:25,973 --> 01:30:27,932
Speaker 4: Good question, and there'd be a lot of people listening

1849
01:30:28,053 --> 01:30:30,532
Speaker 4: visa Vanessa that would would know, Oh, e one hundred

1850
01:30:30,532 --> 01:30:32,612
Speaker 4: and eighteen eighty if you've gone through that route and

1851
01:30:33,013 --> 01:30:36,732
Speaker 4: can give some more information to Vanessa. But why did

1852
01:30:36,772 --> 01:30:38,933
Speaker 4: your birth mother ever say why she didn't want to

1853
01:30:38,933 --> 01:30:39,732
Speaker 4: give you that information?

1854
01:30:40,812 --> 01:30:45,692
Speaker 17: Well, it was quite sensitive. She said that she was

1855
01:30:46,093 --> 01:30:49,293
Speaker 17: loo because she was young. She said it was that

1856
01:30:50,133 --> 01:30:57,692
Speaker 17: I'm not a credential thing, right, Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, And

1857
01:30:57,772 --> 01:31:00,652
Speaker 17: I think that might be partly why you want me

1858
01:31:00,732 --> 01:31:04,492
Speaker 17: to know. But the money was there and the money

1859
01:31:04,572 --> 01:31:06,333
Speaker 17: is now, I would not be the same.

1860
01:31:07,652 --> 01:31:11,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can understand, obviously you at your mother's point

1861
01:31:11,013 --> 01:31:14,372
Speaker 2: of view and on that. That's yeah, that's that's rough.

1862
01:31:15,572 --> 01:31:19,412
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I do, and I respect that, but it's

1863
01:31:19,412 --> 01:31:21,972
Speaker 17: still said for me, you know, and I had a son,

1864
01:31:22,133 --> 01:31:25,333
Speaker 17: you know, I mean, look the health issues and stuff

1865
01:31:25,412 --> 01:31:25,852
Speaker 17: like that.

1866
01:31:27,452 --> 01:31:30,532
Speaker 4: Well, if there's if there's more information that comes through

1867
01:31:30,532 --> 01:31:32,692
Speaker 4: with people that have gone down that route. Vanessa, we

1868
01:31:32,732 --> 01:31:35,732
Speaker 4: will certainly give you a buzz back, but look over

1869
01:31:35,732 --> 01:31:37,892
Speaker 4: the over the last ninety minutes since we've been having

1870
01:31:37,893 --> 01:31:40,972
Speaker 4: this conversation, it seems that the emergence of these companies

1871
01:31:41,333 --> 01:31:45,852
Speaker 4: like ancestry dot Com and DNA and others has helped

1872
01:31:45,893 --> 01:31:48,892
Speaker 4: people with that, you know, getting a bit more information

1873
01:31:49,013 --> 01:31:50,092
Speaker 4: and digging down a bit further.

1874
01:31:51,652 --> 01:31:55,173
Speaker 17: Yeah, because I don't like true, I mean especially for

1875
01:31:55,612 --> 01:31:59,012
Speaker 17: especially for my son. I mean they're living in Australia now,

1876
01:31:59,333 --> 01:32:03,612
Speaker 17: and as he's part of Australian that's part of his

1877
01:32:03,732 --> 01:32:08,452
Speaker 17: heritage as well. Yeah, you know he's got he's he's

1878
01:32:08,452 --> 01:32:11,052
Speaker 17: got his Marty sir, and he's sort of English side,

1879
01:32:11,133 --> 01:32:15,533
Speaker 17: but and as you hear, and I've got her Australian

1880
01:32:15,612 --> 01:32:16,932
Speaker 17: side of that word bomb.

1881
01:32:18,053 --> 01:32:19,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for you call for Vanessa,

1882
01:32:19,732 --> 01:32:22,093
Speaker 2: and good luck with that. And so I might be wrong,

1883
01:32:22,133 --> 01:32:24,612
Speaker 2: so people can help me there. But I understand when

1884
01:32:24,612 --> 01:32:28,253
Speaker 2: you do these ancestry sites, it will help you build

1885
01:32:29,133 --> 01:32:32,173
Speaker 2: a family tree together, but it doesn't like pop up

1886
01:32:32,173 --> 01:32:35,612
Speaker 2: with matches and give you names like I think there's

1887
01:32:35,612 --> 01:32:37,133
Speaker 2: a bit more to it than that. Someone might be

1888
01:32:37,173 --> 01:32:39,333
Speaker 2: able to explain it because I can't quite get my

1889
01:32:39,372 --> 01:32:39,973
Speaker 2: head around it.

1890
01:32:40,213 --> 01:32:43,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know either because I haven't done an

1891
01:32:43,053 --> 01:32:45,492
Speaker 4: ancestry dot com. But if you know, I eight hundred

1892
01:32:45,532 --> 01:32:46,493
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty.

1893
01:32:46,333 --> 01:32:49,133
Speaker 2: My sister did our DNA and she found out there

1894
01:32:49,133 --> 01:32:52,772
Speaker 2: where basically mostly Irish and a bit of Scottish.

1895
01:32:52,973 --> 01:32:56,012
Speaker 3: Right, good times? That makes sense now, oh one hundred

1896
01:32:56,093 --> 01:32:57,452
Speaker 3: eighty ten eightys.

1897
01:32:57,053 --> 01:32:59,012
Speaker 2: There were absolutely no surprises of that.

1898
01:32:59,093 --> 01:33:01,412
Speaker 4: It is twenty four past three. I love your thoughts,

1899
01:33:01,452 --> 01:33:03,213
Speaker 4: though I WATEE hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1900
01:33:03,333 --> 01:33:04,052
Speaker 4: number to call.

1901
01:33:08,333 --> 01:33:11,692
Speaker 1: Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and eighty

1902
01:33:11,732 --> 01:33:13,333
Speaker 1: ten eighty on used talk ZV.

1903
01:33:14,412 --> 01:33:18,733
Speaker 2: So back to that DNA thing and looking for relations

1904
01:33:19,612 --> 01:33:22,492
Speaker 2: high team, Yes, DNA will reveal relationships if the others

1905
01:33:22,812 --> 01:33:25,972
Speaker 2: have done DNA as well. We're just doing it and

1906
01:33:26,253 --> 01:33:28,932
Speaker 2: have uncovered previous unknowns. So they have to have put

1907
01:33:29,093 --> 01:33:32,812
Speaker 2: their DNA up and said that they want to be found, gotcha,

1908
01:33:33,293 --> 01:33:35,213
Speaker 2: And they have to be out there, so you can't.

1909
01:33:35,253 --> 01:33:36,612
Speaker 2: It's just not going to give a list of people

1910
01:33:36,612 --> 01:33:38,732
Speaker 2: that you are related to so you can go and

1911
01:33:38,772 --> 01:33:39,692
Speaker 2: knock on their doors, you know.

1912
01:33:39,853 --> 01:33:44,293
Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting Siah, How are you this afternoon? Hi, am good,

1913
01:33:44,293 --> 01:33:45,973
Speaker 4: Thank you, very nice to chat with you.

1914
01:33:46,013 --> 01:33:46,852
Speaker 3: So what's your story?

1915
01:33:47,692 --> 01:33:50,812
Speaker 20: Well, I fixed it in because I'm a sperm donor

1916
01:33:50,893 --> 01:33:56,133
Speaker 20: baby and I, after talking to a friend, decided to

1917
01:33:56,333 --> 01:33:59,452
Speaker 20: do ancestry dot com. So I thought it'd be interesting,

1918
01:33:59,612 --> 01:34:03,732
Speaker 20: just you know, not knowing fifty percent of my genetics

1919
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:08,132
Speaker 20: where sort of my base genetics were from in the world,

1920
01:34:09,572 --> 01:34:12,612
Speaker 20: and so I was quite surprised when I logged on

1921
01:34:12,732 --> 01:34:16,213
Speaker 20: after I did the test to find that there was

1922
01:34:16,253 --> 01:34:21,173
Speaker 20: a fifty parental match and that I had accidentally identified

1923
01:34:21,532 --> 01:34:24,133
Speaker 20: my stirm Downer, who was a very lovely man who

1924
01:34:24,213 --> 01:34:28,013
Speaker 20: offered to meet with me and ask any questions that

1925
01:34:28,093 --> 01:34:34,372
Speaker 20: I had. I in the end decided not to meet him.

1926
01:34:34,692 --> 01:34:36,812
Speaker 20: But it was a bit of a shock for me

1927
01:34:37,013 --> 01:34:42,692
Speaker 20: because I'd been working in a reproductive sciences lab and

1928
01:34:42,732 --> 01:34:45,973
Speaker 20: I knew from the work in that lab that for

1929
01:34:46,053 --> 01:34:50,013
Speaker 20: people born during my or conceived during the period I was,

1930
01:34:50,772 --> 01:34:53,492
Speaker 20: there was almost, you know, next to no chance that

1931
01:34:54,253 --> 01:34:58,172
Speaker 20: you would be able to track that person down. But obviously,

1932
01:34:58,213 --> 01:35:03,652
Speaker 20: with the advent of websites like ancestry dot com, that's

1933
01:35:03,692 --> 01:35:07,612
Speaker 20: really turned everything on its head. And I think it's

1934
01:35:07,652 --> 01:35:12,772
Speaker 20: something are really important for sperm donors, for you know,

1935
01:35:12,812 --> 01:35:17,053
Speaker 20: potential parents, and for you know, sperm donor babies to know.

1936
01:35:17,213 --> 01:35:20,372
Speaker 2: Now, you know, if you don't mind me asking Sarah,

1937
01:35:20,372 --> 01:35:25,013
Speaker 2: why did you decide not to you know, contact your

1938
01:35:25,133 --> 01:35:27,052
Speaker 2: your sperm donor.

1939
01:35:28,412 --> 01:35:32,053
Speaker 20: We did have contact, so we sort of talked back

1940
01:35:32,053 --> 01:35:35,372
Speaker 20: and forth, and I asked kind of what was his motivation,

1941
01:35:36,772 --> 01:35:38,692
Speaker 20: which was, you know, him and his wife's gone through

1942
01:35:38,692 --> 01:35:41,732
Speaker 20: a syst reproductive technologies themselves and they wanted to pay

1943
01:35:41,732 --> 01:35:45,932
Speaker 20: it forward for another couple. I just in the end

1944
01:35:45,973 --> 01:35:48,132
Speaker 20: decided not to meet face.

1945
01:35:47,933 --> 01:35:52,333
Speaker 2: To face, right, And do you feel a connection at all?

1946
01:35:52,772 --> 01:35:55,612
Speaker 2: You know that's popped up on your research and you

1947
01:35:55,812 --> 01:35:58,612
Speaker 2: talked to did you feel any kind of connection or

1948
01:35:58,933 --> 01:36:02,333
Speaker 2: was this just something you wanted to leave because it

1949
01:36:02,412 --> 01:36:04,812
Speaker 2: didn't really matter and your big scheme of how your

1950
01:36:04,812 --> 01:36:05,492
Speaker 2: life's running.

1951
01:36:06,253 --> 01:36:08,212
Speaker 20: Well, I think that was the reason why I decided

1952
01:36:08,253 --> 01:36:10,093
Speaker 20: not to meet him in the end, was that my

1953
01:36:10,253 --> 01:36:14,532
Speaker 20: father who raised me and loved me, he's my father.

1954
01:36:16,093 --> 01:36:20,892
Speaker 20: This is a very very kind man who has given

1955
01:36:20,933 --> 01:36:24,372
Speaker 20: me the most incredible gift in the world, But in

1956
01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:25,812
Speaker 20: the end he's not my father.

1957
01:36:26,973 --> 01:36:30,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's really beautiful and fantastic that you

1958
01:36:31,213 --> 01:36:33,772
Speaker 2: have a father that you feel like that about.

1959
01:36:33,893 --> 01:36:38,173
Speaker 4: You know, did you, Sarah, did you think that might

1960
01:36:38,213 --> 01:36:40,733
Speaker 4: be a possibility when you went on to the ancestry

1961
01:36:40,772 --> 01:36:42,413
Speaker 4: dot com and put in those details.

1962
01:36:42,532 --> 01:36:46,612
Speaker 20: Was that you mentioned in the realm of possibility? But

1963
01:36:46,812 --> 01:36:49,772
Speaker 20: it wasn't something that had that I'd really, I think

1964
01:36:51,412 --> 01:36:55,572
Speaker 20: had fully kind of crossed my mind that it would happen.

1965
01:36:56,812 --> 01:37:01,692
Speaker 20: I'd kind of gone and with the assumption that most

1966
01:37:01,933 --> 01:37:07,253
Speaker 20: spermed owners probably didn't want to be identified, this lovely

1967
01:37:07,333 --> 01:37:11,092
Speaker 20: man had actually his DNA NS two ancestry dot com

1968
01:37:11,372 --> 01:37:15,412
Speaker 20: on the off chance that there ever was a child

1969
01:37:15,492 --> 01:37:20,412
Speaker 20: like me who had questions and he was willing to

1970
01:37:20,812 --> 01:37:23,013
Speaker 20: put himself out there and answer them, which I think

1971
01:37:23,093 --> 01:37:24,173
Speaker 20: is a really beautiful thing.

1972
01:37:24,452 --> 01:37:27,093
Speaker 2: Well, so that was his motivation for putting it out there.

1973
01:37:27,213 --> 01:37:29,732
Speaker 2: Just if any of the people wanted to try and

1974
01:37:30,093 --> 01:37:32,133
Speaker 2: find them, and do you know if you were the

1975
01:37:32,133 --> 01:37:35,652
Speaker 2: only one that contacted them for so far so far?

1976
01:37:36,133 --> 01:37:36,253
Speaker 5: Right?

1977
01:37:36,492 --> 01:37:39,013
Speaker 3: Do you know what he looks like, Sarah?

1978
01:37:39,093 --> 01:37:39,333
Speaker 10: Yes?

1979
01:37:39,652 --> 01:37:41,772
Speaker 2: Does he look like you a little bit?

1980
01:37:41,853 --> 01:37:42,853
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1981
01:37:42,973 --> 01:37:47,732
Speaker 2: All right? And and was he keen to meet you

1982
01:37:47,812 --> 01:37:51,133
Speaker 2: and continue sort of contact or does he just wanted

1983
01:37:51,133 --> 01:37:51,652
Speaker 2: you to meet me?

1984
01:37:52,253 --> 01:37:54,892
Speaker 20: But he very much left it in the ball in

1985
01:37:54,933 --> 01:37:59,253
Speaker 20: my court. It was up to me, which I really appreciated.

1986
01:37:59,732 --> 01:38:01,253
Speaker 20: He was very respectful about that.

1987
01:38:01,853 --> 01:38:04,012
Speaker 2: Well, he sounds like a good man. And your your

1988
01:38:04,053 --> 01:38:06,732
Speaker 2: actual father then, the one that brought you up, sounds

1989
01:38:06,732 --> 01:38:08,812
Speaker 2: like a very good man as well. So you're the

1990
01:38:08,893 --> 01:38:15,053
Speaker 2: lucky person, Sarah.

1991
01:38:12,333 --> 01:38:13,293
Speaker 20: I very much am.

1992
01:38:13,532 --> 01:38:15,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry you finished.

1993
01:38:15,772 --> 01:38:19,852
Speaker 20: Definitely something for people to be aware about with these

1994
01:38:20,053 --> 01:38:24,452
Speaker 20: sister reproductive technologies, because in a very short space of time,

1995
01:38:24,492 --> 01:38:31,093
Speaker 20: the game has completely changed. And obviously, you know, I

1996
01:38:31,333 --> 01:38:36,572
Speaker 20: was conceived in the eighties. I don't think anyone back

1997
01:38:36,612 --> 01:38:43,452
Speaker 20: then could have realized the technology available in the twenty twenties.

1998
01:38:44,652 --> 01:38:50,852
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's become incredibly complex and you know, and

1999
01:38:51,372 --> 01:38:54,812
Speaker 2: so navigating it as you have, Sarah not easy. But

2000
01:38:55,213 --> 01:38:58,093
Speaker 2: it sounds like you've found, you know, the path that

2001
01:38:58,213 --> 01:38:59,732
Speaker 2: works best for you, and that that's great.

2002
01:39:01,133 --> 01:39:03,572
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks very much for giving us a call, Sarah,

2003
01:39:03,572 --> 01:39:05,452
Speaker 4: what a lovely story. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

2004
01:39:05,532 --> 01:39:08,133
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. We've got full boards

2005
01:39:08,133 --> 01:39:10,052
Speaker 4: at the moment, but if you can't get through, keep trying.

2006
01:39:10,253 --> 01:39:11,612
Speaker 4: It is twenty eight to four.

2007
01:39:14,013 --> 01:39:17,053
Speaker 14: Jus talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2008
01:39:17,093 --> 01:39:20,293
Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble confirmation. Our Prime Minister

2009
01:39:20,412 --> 01:39:23,293
Speaker 14: was invited to an online leader's meeting on the Ukraine

2010
01:39:23,293 --> 01:39:27,092
Speaker 14: conflict overnight, but didn't join because of time zone conflict.

2011
01:39:27,492 --> 01:39:30,253
Speaker 14: It was attended by the heads of Australia, France, the

2012
01:39:30,412 --> 01:39:34,772
Speaker 14: UK and Ukraine. The Health and Disability Commissioner says Health

2013
01:39:34,812 --> 01:39:38,892
Speaker 14: and z Tirafati and an experienced doctor breached the patient

2014
01:39:39,013 --> 01:39:41,852
Speaker 14: rights after a twenty three month old died in Gisbon

2015
01:39:41,973 --> 01:39:46,013
Speaker 14: hospital from sepsis and organ failure after family tried to

2016
01:39:46,013 --> 01:39:49,772
Speaker 14: get medical help for days. Thousands of Israelians have been

2017
01:39:49,812 --> 01:39:54,012
Speaker 14: protesting in streets nationwide, telling Benjaminette Yaho he must reach

2018
01:39:54,053 --> 01:39:57,572
Speaker 14: a peace agreement in Gaza. Our call for witnesses to

2019
01:39:57,652 --> 01:40:00,812
Speaker 14: a man being assaulted and robbed in palmest North by

2020
01:40:00,853 --> 01:40:04,532
Speaker 14: three men about nine forty last Thursday night at Linton

2021
01:40:04,652 --> 01:40:07,652
Speaker 14: and Church Streets. Police particularly want to hear from two

2022
01:40:07,692 --> 01:40:11,732
Speaker 14: women who helped the victim. To climate protesters camped for

2023
01:40:11,772 --> 01:40:14,892
Speaker 14: three weeks in a coal bucket at Stockton Mine, costing

2024
01:40:14,933 --> 01:40:17,732
Speaker 14: the company hundreds of thousands of dollars for fairy and

2025
01:40:17,812 --> 01:40:22,012
Speaker 14: coal out by truck instead of Train and former Deputy

2026
01:40:22,013 --> 01:40:25,492
Speaker 14: Prime Minister Grant Robertson has revealed he needed counseling for

2027
01:40:25,652 --> 01:40:29,213
Speaker 14: extreme stress and the wake of Jacinder R. Durn's resignation.

2028
01:40:29,652 --> 01:40:32,572
Speaker 14: Read more at enzid Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

2029
01:40:32,612 --> 01:40:33,052
Speaker 14: and Tyler.

2030
01:40:34,013 --> 01:40:36,732
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Wendy, and we are talking about

2031
01:40:37,133 --> 01:40:39,452
Speaker 4: spoom Donus stories and adoption stories as well.

2032
01:40:39,492 --> 01:40:41,333
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty is the number to.

2033
01:40:41,253 --> 01:40:45,053
Speaker 2: Call High Team. Yes, DNA will reveal relationships if the

2034
01:40:45,093 --> 01:40:47,333
Speaker 2: others have done DNA as well. We are just doing

2035
01:40:47,333 --> 01:40:54,213
Speaker 2: it and have uncovered previously unknown says Ronnie Eric. Welcome

2036
01:40:54,253 --> 01:40:57,253
Speaker 2: to the show. What's your story?

2037
01:40:57,692 --> 01:41:00,372
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, We've got lots of stories about adoption because

2038
01:41:00,452 --> 01:41:04,293
Speaker 5: I am adopted. You know, I probably I meet my

2039
01:41:04,933 --> 01:41:11,612
Speaker 5: first mother, oh probably studio more years ago now, and

2040
01:41:12,253 --> 01:41:17,372
Speaker 5: I still have a massively good relationship with her beef

2041
01:41:17,532 --> 01:41:21,053
Speaker 5: mom that brought me up. She's passed away. We still

2042
01:41:21,093 --> 01:41:24,612
Speaker 5: have a great relationship, and you know, I found a

2043
01:41:24,612 --> 01:41:27,572
Speaker 5: lot of stuff. I was a musician and my dad

2044
01:41:27,692 --> 01:41:30,772
Speaker 5: turned out to be a manager of VARs Air Records

2045
01:41:30,772 --> 01:41:34,093
Speaker 5: in Australia and that's why I was into music. And

2046
01:41:34,133 --> 01:41:38,813
Speaker 5: my sister's a blues musician. My uncle was a musician.

2047
01:41:39,333 --> 01:41:40,812
Speaker 5: In fact, you're doing the same thing as me. At

2048
01:41:40,812 --> 01:41:42,333
Speaker 5: the same time when we met there was a DJ

2049
01:41:43,333 --> 01:41:45,812
Speaker 5: kariok Op writer and bands and stuff like that. So

2050
01:41:47,093 --> 01:41:51,053
Speaker 5: it's right for the family. But I've got a that's

2051
01:41:51,053 --> 01:41:54,532
Speaker 5: when I'm saying, it's not just an adoption story. It's

2052
01:41:55,013 --> 01:41:57,893
Speaker 5: people don't realize that your DNA has so much information

2053
01:41:57,973 --> 01:42:01,372
Speaker 5: in it, and I've learned this through my story.

2054
01:42:04,372 --> 01:42:06,173
Speaker 3: To blow you go way, yeah, you carry on.

2055
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:07,892
Speaker 4: Well, I was just going to say, you know, hearing

2056
01:42:07,933 --> 01:42:10,852
Speaker 4: these stories worries and it is hard for me to

2057
01:42:10,893 --> 01:42:13,492
Speaker 4: comprehend that I've got biological parents that I've always known.

2058
01:42:13,532 --> 01:42:15,772
Speaker 4: But I can understand that side of things that if

2059
01:42:15,812 --> 01:42:18,612
Speaker 4: I didn't know my lineage, that would be something that

2060
01:42:18,652 --> 01:42:22,532
Speaker 4: would just claw away at me until I managed to

2061
01:42:22,532 --> 01:42:24,452
Speaker 4: find out some of that information. So I can understand

2062
01:42:24,492 --> 01:42:24,933
Speaker 4: that part of it.

2063
01:42:26,093 --> 01:42:28,812
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's even deeper than that, because you've got to like,

2064
01:42:28,893 --> 01:42:33,012
Speaker 5: for thousands of years until you were born, people were

2065
01:42:33,013 --> 01:42:36,773
Speaker 5: having reducing so that information was getting passed.

2066
01:42:36,492 --> 01:42:38,532
Speaker 15: Along right till the day you were born.

2067
01:42:38,893 --> 01:42:42,372
Speaker 5: Parts of everybody else's DNA and information and experiences in

2068
01:42:42,412 --> 01:42:46,253
Speaker 5: their lives is memories those memories, even though you can't

2069
01:42:46,293 --> 01:42:49,692
Speaker 5: remember them, there's parts of their information that lay in

2070
01:42:49,732 --> 01:42:52,412
Speaker 5: your DNA. And I learned that as a child.

2071
01:42:52,452 --> 01:42:53,973
Speaker 15: I knew I wanted to be a musician. I was

2072
01:42:53,973 --> 01:42:54,532
Speaker 15: into music.

2073
01:42:54,612 --> 01:42:57,772
Speaker 5: I was all parts of I mean, I'm definitely my

2074
01:42:57,893 --> 01:43:01,612
Speaker 5: mom's my mom that brought me up. I'm her son

2075
01:43:01,812 --> 01:43:04,652
Speaker 5: and on her personality, but there's so much of me

2076
01:43:04,732 --> 01:43:09,412
Speaker 5: that's also my birth family personality on both sides. And

2077
01:43:09,452 --> 01:43:15,092
Speaker 5: here's a crazy, crazy thing. So my mum basically conceived

2078
01:43:15,133 --> 01:43:17,772
Speaker 5: me up towering Away, way up down end the country.

2079
01:43:18,133 --> 01:43:22,933
Speaker 5: I was adopted into a small town called Harwa that

2080
01:43:23,053 --> 01:43:26,093
Speaker 5: turned out to be the lineage of my father's side.

2081
01:43:28,213 --> 01:43:31,133
Speaker 5: Lots of the people there. Even more bizarre, when I

2082
01:43:31,213 --> 01:43:33,293
Speaker 5: met my grandfather, he's telling me this story because he

2083
01:43:33,372 --> 01:43:35,772
Speaker 5: used to be a butcher. His first job was a butcher,

2084
01:43:35,772 --> 01:43:37,372
Speaker 5: and he was a butcher for much of his life.

2085
01:43:37,532 --> 01:43:39,333
Speaker 5: And he was telling me the story about this first

2086
01:43:39,412 --> 01:43:42,213
Speaker 5: job he had in this butcher shop in Hardware. He

2087
01:43:42,213 --> 01:43:43,532
Speaker 5: didn't he live in Harder. I think he was living

2088
01:43:43,572 --> 01:43:45,972
Speaker 5: up Towering Away and he's telling the story and it's

2089
01:43:46,013 --> 01:43:49,372
Speaker 5: my story, and I'm sitting there going, hang on a minute,

2090
01:43:49,732 --> 01:43:51,772
Speaker 5: that's my story, how can it be your story? It

2091
01:43:52,213 --> 01:43:56,372
Speaker 5: turned out he was worked in as a butcher in

2092
01:43:56,412 --> 01:43:58,772
Speaker 5: the same butcher shop that I started out as a butcher,

2093
01:43:58,772 --> 01:44:05,093
Speaker 5: and and I found out also remember him giving me

2094
01:44:05,492 --> 01:44:08,572
Speaker 5: saveloys is a little kid when my mom used to

2095
01:44:08,333 --> 01:44:10,453
Speaker 5: go to that butcher shop when you give away Sabollodes,

2096
01:44:10,652 --> 01:44:11,213
Speaker 5: I didn't know.

2097
01:44:11,173 --> 01:44:12,133
Speaker 15: He was my grandfather.

2098
01:44:13,053 --> 01:44:13,933
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

2099
01:44:14,893 --> 01:44:18,173
Speaker 5: When we had a reunion on that side, we found

2100
01:44:18,213 --> 01:44:21,053
Speaker 5: out that there were people in my life though I

2101
01:44:21,093 --> 01:44:23,492
Speaker 5: grew up in that town, who were involved when was

2102
01:44:23,532 --> 01:44:25,732
Speaker 5: a nurse looking after my mum from my mum was

2103
01:44:25,732 --> 01:44:27,812
Speaker 5: sick quite a bit in the hospital. There was other

2104
01:44:27,853 --> 01:44:33,132
Speaker 5: people that had become boyfriends of one next door neighbor

2105
01:44:33,173 --> 01:44:34,412
Speaker 5: that were related to me.

2106
01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:35,933
Speaker 15: It was bizarre.

2107
01:44:36,692 --> 01:44:39,452
Speaker 5: You know, crazy stuff, crazy crazy stuff.

2108
01:44:39,612 --> 01:44:41,973
Speaker 2: Now just go back to a previous point, Eric, if

2109
01:44:42,013 --> 01:44:45,612
Speaker 2: I quickly, you know because you've experienced this firsthand, you know,

2110
01:44:45,812 --> 01:44:51,533
Speaker 2: with the parents brought you up and meeting biological relatives.

2111
01:44:51,853 --> 01:44:54,732
Speaker 2: What do you think the nature versus nurtures split is

2112
01:44:54,812 --> 01:44:57,172
Speaker 2: how much do you think it is in your DNA

2113
01:44:57,253 --> 01:44:59,652
Speaker 2: and how much do you think the way you behave

2114
01:44:59,772 --> 01:45:01,612
Speaker 2: comes from the people that bring you up.

2115
01:45:02,732 --> 01:45:04,933
Speaker 5: I think the way you behave comes mainly from the

2116
01:45:04,933 --> 01:45:07,932
Speaker 5: people who bring you up, so you will have their morals,

2117
01:45:08,492 --> 01:45:12,372
Speaker 5: you'll have a lot of their personalities. You like a computer, right,

2118
01:45:12,452 --> 01:45:15,812
Speaker 5: so someone built a computer and you know, then someone

2119
01:45:16,173 --> 01:45:18,772
Speaker 5: brought that computer and they put the programs on that

2120
01:45:18,812 --> 01:45:20,173
Speaker 5: computer that.

2121
01:45:21,812 --> 01:45:24,372
Speaker 15: That made the computer do whatever.

2122
01:45:23,692 --> 01:45:25,932
Speaker 5: You wanted it to do. So think of it like that.

2123
01:45:26,053 --> 01:45:29,932
Speaker 5: But the computer itself, it's still DNA or that computer

2124
01:45:30,093 --> 01:45:32,812
Speaker 5: or that human being. All that information that was put

2125
01:45:32,853 --> 01:45:34,892
Speaker 5: into that to start with, to make that to get

2126
01:45:34,893 --> 01:45:36,452
Speaker 5: to that point, it's still there.

2127
01:45:36,652 --> 01:45:38,933
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like a hardware thing. There's there's the

2128
01:45:38,973 --> 01:45:41,492
Speaker 2: capabilities of the computer that come through your DNA, and

2129
01:45:41,492 --> 01:45:43,412
Speaker 2: then there's this software that's put on top of it.

2130
01:45:43,853 --> 01:45:45,852
Speaker 2: But whatever the software it is, it can't make you.

2131
01:45:45,933 --> 01:45:48,013
Speaker 2: Doesn't give you more ram than you had, you know

2132
01:45:48,053 --> 01:45:50,892
Speaker 2: what I mean, doesn't It doesn't give you more hard people.

2133
01:45:50,933 --> 01:45:53,732
Speaker 5: But what I want to say to people that a

2134
01:45:53,893 --> 01:45:57,692
Speaker 5: bit worried about or feel that I kind of feel.

2135
01:45:57,732 --> 01:45:59,452
Speaker 5: Sometimes people say, oh, I don't want to meet my

2136
01:45:59,452 --> 01:46:01,572
Speaker 5: parents because I feel like, you know my parents and

2137
01:46:01,612 --> 01:46:03,732
Speaker 5: my parents and I'll be letting them down. I want

2138
01:46:03,732 --> 01:46:06,453
Speaker 5: to say to them and from me to to them,

2139
01:46:06,772 --> 01:46:10,732
Speaker 5: is you're never letting your parents. Your parents will always

2140
01:46:10,732 --> 01:46:13,333
Speaker 5: be your parents. And yes, it's a hard decision to

2141
01:46:13,372 --> 01:46:16,173
Speaker 5: make to find out your lineage, go and meet meet

2142
01:46:16,933 --> 01:46:20,213
Speaker 5: people who do have your DNA, but it doesn't lessen

2143
01:46:20,253 --> 01:46:23,652
Speaker 5: the relationship at all. To the parent that you will

2144
01:46:23,772 --> 01:46:26,173
Speaker 5: always love your mum and your dad that brought you up.

2145
01:46:26,572 --> 01:46:30,253
Speaker 5: You'll they'll always be your mum and dad. Nothing changes there. Yeah,

2146
01:46:30,333 --> 01:46:33,532
Speaker 5: nothing changes there. It's just good to know who you are.

2147
01:46:33,893 --> 01:46:36,612
Speaker 5: On the other side of things, on my mom's side,

2148
01:46:36,893 --> 01:46:39,452
Speaker 5: they're talking about DNA. My uncle did a DNA test there.

2149
01:46:39,692 --> 01:46:42,572
Speaker 5: My uncle that I met by way, who was a

2150
01:46:42,652 --> 01:46:45,732
Speaker 5: musician as well, crazy a He did a DNA test

2151
01:46:45,893 --> 01:46:50,293
Speaker 5: and that went and found all the relations right back

2152
01:46:50,333 --> 01:46:52,932
Speaker 5: to the first person that came over here on the boat.

2153
01:46:52,973 --> 01:46:55,812
Speaker 5: He turned out to be New Zealand's first person that

2154
01:46:56,213 --> 01:46:58,732
Speaker 5: made a record in New Zealand. He was an opera singer.

2155
01:46:58,853 --> 01:46:59,372
Speaker 3: How cool.

2156
01:47:00,093 --> 01:47:00,492
Speaker 7: Wow.

2157
01:47:00,692 --> 01:47:04,133
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so we went and founders Grave and just

2158
01:47:04,213 --> 01:47:06,852
Speaker 5: crazy stuff like that. It's unbelievable. And I had a

2159
01:47:06,853 --> 01:47:10,492
Speaker 5: half brother pop up again two years ago. Who a

2160
01:47:10,572 --> 01:47:13,692
Speaker 5: lady did a DNA test trying to find her lineage.

2161
01:47:13,812 --> 01:47:15,732
Speaker 5: Turned out her lineage wasn't what she thought. It was

2162
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:18,253
Speaker 5: turned out that she was related to this guy who

2163
01:47:18,372 --> 01:47:20,492
Speaker 5: was a half brother who had been trying to find

2164
01:47:20,492 --> 01:47:22,452
Speaker 5: out who his father and mother were.

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Speaker 15: Because my father passed away, I never.

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Speaker 5: Got to meet him, and through that lineage they found

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Speaker 5: me who I didn't have a DNA test.

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Speaker 3: Unreal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what a fantastic I've got. Sorry you got

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Speaker 2: I've got four.

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Speaker 5: I got three brothers and one one sister now and

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Speaker 5: I was an lonely child.

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Speaker 7: Eric.

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Speaker 4: It's been amazing to chat to you. What an incredible

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Speaker 4: story and well stories you've got. But thank you very

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01:47:49,572 --> 01:47:51,973
Speaker 4: much for sharing a lovely sentiment to other people who

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Speaker 4: will be listening out there if they are thinking about,

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Speaker 4: you know, trying to get into contact with biological parents.

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Speaker 3: I think that was beautifully said. Thanks very much.

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Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty, teen eighty is the number

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Speaker 4: to call. It's seventeen to.

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Speaker 1: Four, Mattie Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

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Speaker 1: on Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 4: It is fourteen to four and having a great discussion

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Speaker 4: about adoption stories and finding missing relatives and if you

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01:48:19,612 --> 01:48:21,692
Speaker 4: were donor conceived O eight one hundred and eighty teen

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Speaker 4: eight years and number to call.

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Speaker 2: And why are we doing that, Tyler?

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Speaker 4: Well, we are doing that because there is a fantastic

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Speaker 4: story on the Herald. You can read right now. It's

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Speaker 4: written by reporter Rachel Mayer on her journey on tracking

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Speaker 4: down she was donor conceived, tracking down her biological father.

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Speaker 3: It's a great read.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great chat with her earlier in

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Speaker 2: the show. Sharon, Welcome to the show. Good ah, So

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Speaker 2: you've done a bit of DNA test searching.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: I come from a family with a standard mum and dad.

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Speaker 21: Mum and dad used to used to get a lot

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Speaker 21: of foster children. So there was four children that they

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01:49:01,532 --> 01:49:03,852
Speaker 21: had of their own needs to foster other children as well.

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Speaker 21: I was one of the four. They ended up adopting

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01:49:07,492 --> 01:49:11,932
Speaker 21: a brother. After three children, they adopted one and then

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01:49:11,973 --> 01:49:16,253
Speaker 21: they had my sister and he he stayed with us.

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01:49:16,372 --> 01:49:18,732
Speaker 21: He's still I'm still very close to him. He's my

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01:49:19,492 --> 01:49:21,893
Speaker 21: I don't see him as anything different to any of

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Speaker 21: my other siblings. Were very close. But we discovered that

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Speaker 21: dad was adopted as well, and I think that adoption

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01:49:30,412 --> 01:49:33,492
Speaker 21: into our family of Mum and Dad. Adopting this child

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01:49:34,973 --> 01:49:38,412
Speaker 21: was their way of giving back. But Dad didn't really

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Speaker 21: know his lineage. He didn't know at that stage his

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01:49:40,853 --> 01:49:46,412
Speaker 21: mother or his father. And when I was married, left home,

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01:49:46,492 --> 01:49:50,372
Speaker 21: got married, had my first child, we discovered who his

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01:49:50,372 --> 01:49:51,852
Speaker 21: mother was and it was a lady that we knew

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01:49:51,893 --> 01:49:54,213
Speaker 21: all our lives. And that was only because the law

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01:49:54,293 --> 01:49:56,333
Speaker 21: was changed towards the best officate. So my mother wrote

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01:49:56,333 --> 01:49:59,492
Speaker 21: away and got dad's best dificate, so that was lovely.

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01:49:59,732 --> 01:50:02,293
Speaker 21: Dad found out that he knew his mother all his life,

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01:50:02,333 --> 01:50:03,772
Speaker 21: but he didn't know she was his mother.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what was the and what's sorry, I'm

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Speaker 2: a step what circle? Did he know her.

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Speaker 21: Or she was a friend of the family.

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Speaker 7: She lived in christ Church.

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Speaker 21: We used to visit because we come from down south. No,

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01:50:18,812 --> 01:50:21,892
Speaker 21: she knew, yes, but Dad didn't know when he used

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01:50:21,893 --> 01:50:23,652
Speaker 21: to visit her, and we didn't know she was our

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01:50:23,652 --> 01:50:26,532
Speaker 21: grandmother when we visited. We didn't find out until she

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01:50:26,652 --> 01:50:30,652
Speaker 21: had died, so that was very sad. But anyway, so

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Speaker 21: he then knew who his mother was, and she was

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01:50:33,492 --> 01:50:35,812
Speaker 21: very much like him. She was very much like my sister,

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01:50:37,053 --> 01:50:39,372
Speaker 21: so we could see the resemblance. But we still didn't

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01:50:39,372 --> 01:50:42,293
Speaker 21: know who his father was and unlikely to find out.

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01:50:42,372 --> 01:50:44,333
Speaker 21: No one would tell us. A lot of people knew

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01:50:45,173 --> 01:50:49,572
Speaker 21: that no one would say anything. And so when Dad

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01:50:49,652 --> 01:50:53,093
Speaker 21: was about eighty five, Dad since passed away earlier this year,

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Speaker 21: I did a DNA test. Everybody used to joke because

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01:50:57,173 --> 01:51:00,412
Speaker 21: I looked so different to the others, and I had

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Speaker 21: I was probably more like my job brother, a little

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01:51:03,173 --> 01:51:08,572
Speaker 21: bit more literate and just interested in those sort of

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01:51:08,612 --> 01:51:13,892
Speaker 21: academic type things then my other siblings. And so I

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01:51:13,933 --> 01:51:16,372
Speaker 21: used to joke with dadiel want a DNA test and

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01:51:16,372 --> 01:51:18,772
Speaker 21: find out if I'm adopted, and he would just laugh.

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01:51:19,412 --> 01:51:22,012
Speaker 21: And so I did this DNA test and it turned

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01:51:22,093 --> 01:51:23,452
Speaker 21: up quite a bit of stuff, a lot of stuff

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01:51:23,492 --> 01:51:25,372
Speaker 21: that we knew, like relatives. It's going to bring up

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01:51:25,412 --> 01:51:28,013
Speaker 21: stuff that you know, like people that you already know

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01:51:28,173 --> 01:51:31,293
Speaker 21: you related to. If they've done a DNA test, you'll

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Speaker 21: get a score and it'll tell you what your score

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01:51:35,572 --> 01:51:39,732
Speaker 21: is to that person. So each score is different depending

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01:51:39,732 --> 01:51:43,452
Speaker 21: on where they are in your lineage. And so a

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01:51:43,452 --> 01:51:45,932
Speaker 21: lot of the names that pop up on ancestry, you'll say, oh, yeah,

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01:51:45,933 --> 01:51:47,932
Speaker 21: that's that person, you know that one. And then you'll

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Speaker 21: get some that you don't know, so I ended up

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Speaker 21: through the DNA test. I spoke to a distant cousin

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Speaker 21: of mine who had done a family tree. I didn't

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01:51:58,333 --> 01:52:01,612
Speaker 21: know she was a cousin and she had done a

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01:52:01,612 --> 01:52:03,692
Speaker 21: family tree on dead's side, and she said to me

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01:52:03,812 --> 01:52:05,932
Speaker 21: that told me a lot about what had gone on

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01:52:06,013 --> 01:52:10,612
Speaker 21: dead's side. She said, I think you're father's father is

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01:52:10,652 --> 01:52:16,532
Speaker 21: this person. And his name was Herbert Williams. And it

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01:52:16,572 --> 01:52:18,732
Speaker 21: sort of didn't really mean anything to me at the time,

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01:52:18,812 --> 01:52:20,852
Speaker 21: and I wrote it all down and I told Dad

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01:52:20,893 --> 01:52:23,652
Speaker 21: the name of his father and he was very bright eyed,

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01:52:23,692 --> 01:52:25,253
Speaker 21: and we said it. Didn't really do much about it

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01:52:25,293 --> 01:52:27,372
Speaker 21: for a couple of years, and I sort of went

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01:52:27,412 --> 01:52:30,093
Speaker 21: through ancestry a lot, and I'd get different links that

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01:52:30,133 --> 01:52:34,532
Speaker 21: would come up, but nothing sort of really meant anything.

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01:52:34,572 --> 01:52:38,692
Speaker 21: And then one day, because I work at home, an

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01:52:38,692 --> 01:52:40,652
Speaker 21: email come up and said I've got a new link

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01:52:40,692 --> 01:52:43,253
Speaker 21: and it was someone who was a surname of Williams.

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01:52:43,293 --> 01:52:44,933
Speaker 21: And I thought, well, there's no Williams is in my

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01:52:45,612 --> 01:52:47,732
Speaker 21: mother's side that I'm aware of, So I thought, oh,

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01:52:48,133 --> 01:52:49,532
Speaker 21: might go and have a look, And so I just

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01:52:49,772 --> 01:52:52,013
Speaker 21: messaged her on the portal and just said, look, I

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01:52:52,013 --> 01:52:56,133
Speaker 21: see your surname's Williams. My aunt. See, my grandfather's name

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01:52:56,213 --> 01:53:00,173
Speaker 21: is Williams. Are you related to Herbert Williams? And she said,

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01:53:00,173 --> 01:53:02,133
Speaker 21: I'll get my uncle to give you a ring. She

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01:53:02,333 --> 01:53:04,532
Speaker 21: was in Perth. And that's the interesting thing. You can

2281
01:53:04,572 --> 01:53:06,253
Speaker 21: be talking to people around the world you don't know

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01:53:06,293 --> 01:53:10,293
Speaker 21: where they are. And so her uncle rang me, and

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01:53:10,372 --> 01:53:14,452
Speaker 21: he was down in our town, down Queenstown, and they

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01:53:14,532 --> 01:53:17,972
Speaker 21: rang me that night and he was a lovely man.

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01:53:18,173 --> 01:53:20,452
Speaker 21: And he turned out to be my father's brother.

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01:53:21,133 --> 01:53:24,572
Speaker 3: Ah, your uncle, and yeah, so he.

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Speaker 21: Was my aunt, my uncle, yes, her uncle and my uncle,

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01:53:27,732 --> 01:53:32,892
Speaker 21: and her father is my uncle. And he's only about

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01:53:33,772 --> 01:53:37,372
Speaker 21: he's only about six years older than me. And the

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01:53:37,652 --> 01:53:40,013
Speaker 21: one that rang me is older. But the youngest of

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01:53:40,053 --> 01:53:42,612
Speaker 21: all the brothers was only about six years younger than me,

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01:53:43,412 --> 01:53:46,972
Speaker 21: and he lives. So this we found three brothers. So

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01:53:47,053 --> 01:53:49,333
Speaker 21: the second one, the youngest one, lives about a cave

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01:53:49,412 --> 01:53:54,133
Speaker 21: from where my dad lived, and another one lived in Alexandra.

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01:53:54,612 --> 01:53:57,812
Speaker 21: And then dad found out that he had a sister

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01:53:58,093 --> 01:54:01,372
Speaker 21: in tar so she came over and met him and

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01:54:01,412 --> 01:54:04,173
Speaker 21: they all spent time with him before he passed. And

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01:54:05,133 --> 01:54:08,052
Speaker 21: the youngest one, John was a pallbearer at his funeral.

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Speaker 17: Wow.

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Speaker 21: Family, and it was just it was just an awesome

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01:54:13,732 --> 01:54:16,452
Speaker 21: thing and we're so pleased we didn't leave it any later,

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01:54:16,772 --> 01:54:20,012
Speaker 21: you know. It was just it was the right time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What a fantastic story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, that's pretty incredible. At eighty five

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01:54:25,612 --> 01:54:28,293
Speaker 4: and managed to track down his brothers and sisters. That

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01:54:28,412 --> 01:54:30,972
Speaker 4: is a beautiful, beautiful story. Ohight hundred eighty ten eighties

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01:54:30,973 --> 01:54:33,573
Speaker 4: and number to call when we come back. There's a

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01:54:33,653 --> 01:54:36,052
Speaker 4: text here. It's a lovely text.

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Speaker 3: We'll read that.

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01:54:36,693 --> 01:54:40,013
Speaker 4: Out very shortly, but it's some pretty incredible to wait

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Speaker 4: for this. It is eight minutes two four the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used dogsb.

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Speaker 4: News dogs there be it is five to four text

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Speaker 4: here to wrap this up, and it's beautiful. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 4: My husband and I have an egg donor baby after

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01:55:00,253 --> 01:55:03,373
Speaker 4: twenty years fertility treatment. A relative was the donor. Our

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01:55:03,453 --> 01:55:05,253
Speaker 4: child is now eleven years old and we have been

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01:55:05,293 --> 01:55:08,053
Speaker 4: open since the beginning, no secrets approach, and this is

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Speaker 4: their story and identity. She has an egg mum and

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01:55:10,573 --> 01:55:14,213
Speaker 4: a tummy mum. We the donors live very separate lives,

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01:55:14,213 --> 01:55:16,733
Speaker 4: but texts text each other every now and again and

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01:55:16,772 --> 01:55:18,213
Speaker 4: a few catch ups throughout the year.

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Speaker 3: We are so lucky. Our child is very loved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great topic and you can read the

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01:55:23,493 --> 01:55:24,413
Speaker 2: article in the Herald.

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01:55:24,573 --> 01:55:26,933
Speaker 3: Absolutely and thank you. We've had full lines for the

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Speaker 3: last two hours.

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01:55:27,693 --> 01:55:30,333
Speaker 4: To thank you to everyone who called and texts and

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01:55:30,453 --> 01:55:31,653
Speaker 4: sorry we couldn't get to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, thank you so much for listening for the

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01:55:33,373 --> 01:55:36,892
Speaker 2: whole show. A man, it was a deep chat, some

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01:55:36,933 --> 01:55:38,932
Speaker 2: of the great stories. So you thanks that. The full

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01:55:38,933 --> 01:55:40,812
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Affternows podcast will be out in about

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Speaker 2: an hour. So if you missed our chats, follow our

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Speaker 2: pod and you know, listen wherever you get your pods.

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Speaker 2: The powerful Heather duplicy Ellen is up next. But right now, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: my good buddy, why exactly am I playing this song?

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01:55:56,812 --> 01:55:59,693
Speaker 3: I got no idea. Why are you playing this absolute banger?

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01:55:59,973 --> 01:56:00,333
Speaker 2: Tyler?

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01:56:00,453 --> 01:56:00,972
Speaker 7: You idiot.

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01:56:01,053 --> 01:56:02,972
Speaker 2: It's a big part of one of my favorite movies,

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01:56:03,013 --> 01:56:06,333
Speaker 2: Forrest Bueller's Day Off Ah, and we were talking about

2345
01:56:06,413 --> 01:56:09,573
Speaker 2: rolling thedometer back on cars like Cam did at the

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01:56:09,653 --> 01:56:11,693
Speaker 2: end of the movie. I was there nineteen sixty one

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01:56:11,733 --> 01:56:14,573
Speaker 2: Ferrari two fifty GT California Spider.

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01:56:14,733 --> 01:56:17,333
Speaker 3: What a tune, What a movie? What an hour check.

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01:56:17,413 --> 01:56:20,733
Speaker 2: It's also duff Man's theme song. All Right, thanks for listening,

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01:56:21,733 --> 01:56:23,493
Speaker 2: and until tomorrow afternoon, give him a.

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01:56:23,493 --> 01:56:24,333
Speaker 3: Taste to keep you from us.

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01:56:24,573 --> 01:56:27,373
Speaker 2: Oh, get the car.

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Speaker 1: For more from News Talks B listen live on air

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Speaker 1: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you

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