1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the inside. Andrew Dickens 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search simple, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: use talks at B. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, welcome into the program. One more 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: sleep and then you're on holiday. But we've got a 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: program to do and coming up in the next hour. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: We're getting lost at sea and in the bush more 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: than ever and we're spending a fortune finding you. So 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: what's happening with search and rescue. We'll do that in 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: five minutes time. Economic data from December shows the bite 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: is real and the road to recovery as long how 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: to survive in twenty twenty five and ten minutes time. 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: And David Seymour is considering campaigning on withdrawing from the 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Paris Accords. Have they done their time or is there 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: something salgeable and they fight against pollution and its impact 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: on the environment. We'll have that story just before six. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: We'll have correspondences from around the world and around New 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Zealand and news as it breaks. You can have your 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: say by giving me a text ninety two to ninety two. 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: Small charge applies, or you can email me Dickens at 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: Newstalks at b dot Co. Do on n z It's 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: seven U to five. 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: The agenda. 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: So it is Tuesday, the fourth of February, and first 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: to the United States, where the trade war continues. The 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: Trump administration has agreed to pause sweeping tariffs of Mexico 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: for a month. This is while the two sides hammer 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: out an agreement on security and trade. However, Trump's not 29 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: stopping with the tariffs. He says the EU could be next. 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: It will definitely happen with the European Union. I could 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: tell you that because. 32 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: They've really taken advantage of I said, you know, we. 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: Have over a three hundred billion dollar deficents. 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: They take almost nothing and we take everything from them. 35 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: Well, French President Emmanuel Macron took up the challenge. He said, 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: if the EU's commercial interests were attacked, it would have 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: to make itself respected and therefore it would have to react. 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who has arrived in the 39 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: United States and he is going to be the very 40 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 2: first foreign leader to meet Donald Trump since he returned 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: to the White House two weeks ago, which you have 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: to say is a bit of a sub Nisa. Yahoo 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: will begin his first meeting with US Middle East Envoy 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Steve Witcoff later on today. 45 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 6: President Trump has been making it very clear that he 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: wants to see an end to the wars in the 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 6: Middle East or we've had, the Israeli Prime Minister saying 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 6: repeatedly to his domestic audience, Israel does reserve the right 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 6: to return to fighting. 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: Now back home, and Treasury has sent a strong warning 51 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: to the government. It says significant reform and reductions to 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: public services will be needed in the not too distant 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: future if the government sticks to its current restricted spending track. Well, 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Nikola Willis says she believes the projections which extended fifteen 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: years into the future what she calls highly uncertain. And finally, 56 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: to some music cam Beyonce took home Album of the 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: Year at the sixty seventh Grammy Awards in Los Angeles. Finally, finally, 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: so Kenya didn't have to come up and complain. Meanwhile, 59 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: there was speeches because the whole thing was about La. 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: The city Firefighter Fleet was presented an award as a 61 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: tribute to the Los Angeles wildfires. 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: It's been many, many years. 63 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 5: Every songwriter, every collaborator, every producer, all of the hard work. 64 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: There we go and that is Beyonce it's nine after 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: five dickens. So the government told us a lot that 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 2: New Zealanders say no too much, and they've spent their 67 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: first year saying no a lot, which I was surprised 68 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: that one of the first things they said no to 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: and stopped in its track was the ent islander replacement 70 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: program that's known as IREX. After ordering some fairies, kiri 71 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Row went back to the government wanting an unlimited check 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: to build some wolves. Now Labor first heard about it, 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: they didn't say no, But then again they didn't say 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: yes either. The National government gave a very loud no, 75 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: canceled the ships and the wolves. And that's a very 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: important point. The ships were bought and they are a goodbye. 77 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: They were a good price. The wharves didn't cost a 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: heat because they needed to be bigger. What blew the 79 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: budget was earthquakes and making the wharves used by both 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Bluebridge and Kiwi Rail and two state of the arts 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: very fancy terminals, and that was expensive. But Nicola Willis 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: halted the whole lot, ships and all. Now there has 83 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: to be an answer. We know this because billions of 84 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: dollars worth of trade crosses every year, and yet there 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: seems no urgency because the latest in this saga is 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: from Business Desk, who revealed yesterday the government has yet 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: to establish the company it said it was setting up 88 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: to buy the ferries. The Finance Minister announced that they 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: would do that back on December the eleventh. It has 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: not happened yet. It's a critical part of the deal 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: and the creation of a schedule for company is needed 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: if the government is thinking about creating a state owned 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: enterprise out of Kiwi Rail in a drive towards privatization, 94 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: as suggested by Richard Prebble. So with these things, time 95 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: is of the essence, but the government seems unaware of 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: the pressure and goodness knows what's happening with that schedule 97 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: for company. This is a terrible saga because it drags on, 98 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: partly because the government has a pathological dislike of everything 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: the previous government did, but also because it's being a 100 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: bit tardy and it's spade work. So Nicola, don't say no, 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: just say yes, because we voted for grown ups and 102 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: prove in financial management. But most of all, we voted 103 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: for an aspirational country. 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens is. 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: Eleven a half to five. We're waiting for relief. By 106 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: the way, we've got some new economic data out. It 107 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: comes from CENTRICX. It's for December. Personal loan areas rose 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: by nine point two percent in December by now pay 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 2: Later arreas rose eight point two percent. Residential mortgage areas 110 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: were up seven percent. Reported financial hardships up nineteen percent, 111 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: half of them related to mortgage repayment difficulties. Construction has 112 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: been hard hit defaults, some liquidations up forty percent. Residential 113 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: new home builders recorded the highest number of annual liquidations, 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five of them. Two hundred and 115 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: thirty five builders went down over twelve months. Transport industry 116 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: hit as well, a whole load of liquidations there, one 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one transport companies gone. The pinch is 118 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: real and the recovery is a waiting game. So look, 119 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: we're going to look at just how we can survive 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. Some handy hacks on how to 121 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: survive it in twenty twenty five in ten minutes time. 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: But next, why are we getting lost so much? We're 123 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: talking search and rescue. 124 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 125 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your 126 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: property search simple. You've talk said be. 127 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: It's a quarter right for five now, Over the last 128 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: six months, there's been a significant increase in search and 129 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: rescue operations. This is compared to the year before. Land 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: Search and Rescue say they've seen a twenty three percent 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: increase in the demand for services and a twenty three 132 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: percent increase in the number of people being assisted. We're 133 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: getting lost and it costs to save us. So Chief 134 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: Development and Project Officer Johnny Franklin is joining me now. 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 5: Hello, Johnny, Good morning, Andrew. 136 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: How are you good? 137 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Why are we getting lost? 138 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 5: That's a really good question. The data for that last 139 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: six months or so, it's still a bit fresh, so 140 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 5: we've not had an opportunity to analyze it, so it's 141 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 5: probably quite difficult for us to answer that at the moment. 142 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: Well, what kind of operations are they. 143 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 5: There's a variety of operations, you know, the typical things 144 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: that people to expect. Land search a message to be 145 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 5: involved in the alpine environment of the bush environments, but 146 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: also we get involved in operations in urban areas for 147 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: people who may have cognitive conditions, and that accounts about 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: twenty five percent of our operations, and obviously as our 149 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 5: population gets older, that percentage increases. 150 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: Why you're still analyzing the figures, it's you know, it's 151 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: very tempting to say we're getting more tourists again, and 152 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: more tourists are doing this the appropriate you know, preparation 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: before they go into these difficult environments. 154 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: I think, you know, we are seeing an increase in 155 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: a number of international tourists coming to New Zealand, but 156 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 5: we're still not at the same levels as we were 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: pre COVID. 158 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: And yet. 159 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: We're still seeing that increase at the moment. And we 160 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 5: also have to remember that, you know, this number of 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 5: tourists only accounts for fifteen percent of such a rescue operations. 162 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 5: You know, that still wouldn't account for this huge increase 163 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: that we've but still addition in the last six months. 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: But still the numbers go up and we have to 165 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: find them and we have to save them. Therefore, you 166 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: have to have enough money to do it, and you 167 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: have to have enough people. So what does this mean 168 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: for the amount of volunteers you're having to deploy. 169 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 5: Well, obviously the number of volunteers deploying goes up with 170 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: the number of instances occurring. We have sufficient volunteers At 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 5: the moment, we have three thousand, three hundred volunteers around 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: the country. But you know, they give up their time 173 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: and that's their most valuable asset, and we are currently 174 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 5: expecting them to provide most of the equipment, which places 175 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 5: a huge financial burden on them. So, you know, over time, 176 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: that makes it more difficult for us recruit. 177 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: And do you have enough people? 178 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: We do have enough people at the moment, but I think, 179 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: you know, for the longevity and the sustainability of the organization, 180 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: removing those barriers to recruitment is the only way that 181 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 5: we can probably continue to be able to provide that 182 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 5: service in the future. 183 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: And how sustainable is your funding model? These increases you 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: need more money even though you depend on volunteers. So 185 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: how sustainable is your funding model? 186 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: Well, I think at the moment we're able to well, 187 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: we're very fortunate to receive eight point seven eight point 188 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: seven eight million from the government, but in order to 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 5: fully equip all of our volunteers and provide a fully 190 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: funded service, that would probably that cost about twenty five 191 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 5: million dollars we estimate, and we're able to make up 192 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: some of that funding by you know, local charitable trusts, etc. 193 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 5: But the volunteers do bear the vast majority of underspend themselves. 194 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: Well, Johnny, could you thank the more for us? You 195 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: guys do amazing work and great work and we will. 196 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: Where would we be without thank you for everything you've done. 197 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: That's Johnny Franklin, Chief Development and Project officer from New 198 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: Zealand Land Search and Rescue. And don't forget the simple stuff. 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: Take a knee perb. I mean, have you ever thought 200 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,119 Speaker 2: about a one mobile phone? Now they've got the starlink 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: and tell people where you're going, and don't be silly, 202 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: don't get lost. It is eighteen after five. It's a 203 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: hard year. We know this and the figures out us 204 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: out of December only prove that. So how do you 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: get through? We're going to talk to a mortgage broker 206 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: at a few moments time as we head into twenty 207 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: twenty five and how you can survive. 208 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens are afili edition with one roof. To make 209 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: your property search simple, use talk Zibby. 210 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: It is five twenty one, so Kiyi's as still waiting 211 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: to see a shift in the economy. We know it, 212 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: we feel it, and now we've got facts New Centric 213 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: data out this morning shows reported financial hardship increased nineteen 214 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: percent in the past year, and most of those cases 215 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: were down to mortgage repayment issues. The mortgage is killing us. 216 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: So I've got a mortgage broker on the line right now. 217 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: He's from Key Mortgae. It's Jeremy Andrews. Hello, Jeremy, Morning, 218 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: andrew A. Were you surprised by the nineteen percent figure? 219 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: Not too surprising, could have been higher, I guess a 220 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: lot of I guess a lot of that's a lot 221 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: of that is from mortgages, people going through kind of hardship. 222 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: So, in other words, you know that the economy is 223 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: a bit tanky at the moment, and so you were 224 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: expecting a nineteen percent. It's still not a good number 225 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: the way it's not. 226 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: It's been pretty hard out there, especially businesses. Last five 227 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: years or so, it's been a pretty hard run. They've 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: been COVID supply chain issues, lockdowns rates after that, rates 229 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: have gone from kind of record loads to the highest 230 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: a lot of those new businesses would have seen. 231 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: And all those people are wanting it to improve soon. 232 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: And can you see improvement in the next coming months 233 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: or is this going to be a medium term thing. 234 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: So, so from the interest rate perspective, yeah, that's that 235 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: is slowly getting better, but it's not it's not going 236 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: to be a magic turnaround. I think that the hardship 237 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: levels there is still going to continue on for But 238 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: there's a lot of hurts out there. Stillest rates really high. 239 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: It was still still reduced, I guess as people buyers 240 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: and consumers are still struggling to afford things and spend 241 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 3: as much as they used to. 242 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing though, here's the thing that the 243 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: ocr is coming up, And yesterday all the news was 244 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: about Trump's tariffs and suggesting that maybe a too too 245 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: dramatic drop in the in the interest rate might not 246 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: be in our in our favor, and therefore the interest 247 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: rates could stay high for a while. So there are 248 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people out there right now with mortgages 249 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: thinking to themselves, what on earth do I do? What 250 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: would you what would you suggest? 251 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so we've seen quite a bit of changes in 252 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: the last six months gone. It's gone from kind of 253 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: not planned to reduce them to quite quickly reduce them. 254 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: But the fixed rates maybe haven't come down quite as 255 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: much as people were hoping or as quickly. It's just 256 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: in the last week there's been quite a bit more 257 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: dramatic shifts. So we're now getting interest rates kind of 258 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: down around the kind of early to mid fives or 259 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: that kind of short short term. I'll probably suggest that 260 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: most people, yeah, edge your bets, don't necessarily just hope 261 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: that rates just can continue to free fall and keep dropping, 262 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: maybe fixing some of your loans that more more midterm. 263 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: A lot of people, a lot of people are actually holding 264 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: off and floating over the last six months. I don't 265 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 3: think I've ever seen so many people on floating just 266 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: hoping for rates to really go well. 267 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: I'll take that. I'll take that as a vote of 268 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: confidence by the New Zealand people to into floating because 269 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: they believe that things are going to get better, because 270 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: just a month or so ago, the one year fixed 271 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 2: rate was the go for everybody. Now, thank you so much. 272 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: Jeremy Andrews. Jeremy is a mortgage broker from Key Mortgages. 273 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: It is five twenty four jobs. It's getting hard. It 274 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: is hard. We know it's hard to get jobs, but 275 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: it's particularly hard to get jobs if you're young and 276 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: if you're old. More on listen to moment the early. 277 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio Power by News Talks. 278 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: It be New Talks B. It is five twenty seven. 279 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. I'm Andrew Dickens. Suddenly it 280 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: is tough to get a job, which is quite amazing, really, 281 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: because you may remember a few years ago we had 282 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: jobs for everyone, and then some we had to import 283 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: people left, right and center. But now it's tough, and 284 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: yesterday we learned the teenagers in search of their first 285 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: job are struggling to land anything in the current employment market, 286 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: and some are searching for as long as two years. 287 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: It must be heartbreaking. You can see why we has 288 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: been talking about it with Jeremy before. In tough times, 289 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: you need experienced workers, and with so many experienced workers 290 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: losing their job, saying, there's a whole cohort of older 291 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: workers floating around. They're taking the jobs the youngsters used 292 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: to get, and you can't blame those older guys. You 293 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: need to ditch your humility and concentrate on cash flow 294 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: to survive in twenty twenty five. We all need money. 295 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: I'll take a job that's below me. But the older 296 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: generation is also fitting the heat. Old workers are finding 297 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: it harder and harder too. They may have the knowledge, 298 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: but boss is younger than them. Sit there and wonder 299 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: how many years have you got left in you? How 300 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: many years can you give the company? The souper is looming, 301 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: the kids have left home, the mortgage is paid. You 302 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: want to go fishing, don't you? 303 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: You know what? 304 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: I might not put my money on you. It's said 305 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: that we need to be a meritocracy again. It said 306 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: that these days we need to hire the best person 307 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: for the job. Ditch the DEI, you know, the diversity, 308 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: equity and inclusion. Find the best person for the job, 309 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: no matter how old or young they are. Surely we 310 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: should be hiring the experienced guys, even if they can 311 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: only give five years, because they are experienced. And surely 312 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: we should be hiring the kids because they are a 313 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: great vestment. They will pay their way back to you 314 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: for the next twenty five years. So here's the message 315 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: to middle management in these tough times. I'll go for 316 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: an old guy or a young guy. Those guys in 317 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: the middle not so sure. Five twenty eight seconds. There 318 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: are sharks all over Sydney right now. The headlines were 319 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: in the Sydney Morning Herald, yesterday, warmer Sydney waters mean 320 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: a longest shark season and they're going into the harbor. 321 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: There are bull and tiger sharks all over the Sydney Harbor. 322 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: And now the headlines are also saying, maybe we need 323 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: to be putting in some nets that they do in 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: New Caledonia. Maybe we need to stop swimming in the 325 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: inner Cidny beaches. Blame the climate, blame the good weather. Whatever. 326 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: The sharks love Sydney right now. I mentioned that because 327 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: at the moment, Tony Demayo is joining us and a 328 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: teenager has died in a shark attack. Don't want to 329 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: freak you out or anything. I'm sure it's safe in 330 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: the water. Shark attacks are extraordinarily rare, but not for 331 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: this one teenager. So we'll have that story for you. 332 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: Talk about the Grammy Awards on the way as well, 333 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: because I don't know any of this, and I know music. 334 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: Is this a Grammy Award winner? It's a Chapel roone, 335 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah, oh okay, I know a 336 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: little bit of it. I'll tell you a little bit 337 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: more about that. And also should we be out of 338 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: the Paris Climate Accords? David Seymour Rickens he might campaign 339 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: on that. We'll talk about this before six. It's Early 340 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: Edition with Andrew Dickens on News Talk ZIBB. 341 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: The News You Need this Morning and the in Depth 342 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: Analysis Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make 343 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Your Property Search Simple, News Talk ZIBB. 344 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: First, what is he? Welcome back to the program. So 345 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: glad you chose us. I'm Andrew Dickinson. For one bridge, 346 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: It's Beyonce, Cowboy Carter Texas hold him. She won the 347 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: Grammy Album Award finally, So the Grammys have come and gone, 348 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: and Kenny his wife forgot to wear Clothes and the 349 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: big winners in the Grammy Awards where people most of 350 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: us have never heard, let alone heard of. Critis described 351 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: the award winners as a return to a gender setting pop. 352 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: But who listens to pop for an agenda? So Chapel 353 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Rome we played her just before the news. She's the 354 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: big new talent. She writes great songs. Cloak though in 355 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: a hysteria and a vocal gymnastic She's like, She's like 356 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: if you haven't heard her, She's like Kate Bush and 357 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: Cydey Lauper on Speed and also x rated often it's 358 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: hard to even figure out her words. Thank god for 359 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: Spotify's lyric service. Kendrick Lamar was the other big winner, 360 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: jazzy rapper. He hit pay dirt with a bitchy little 361 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: hit song about another rapper, Drake who's under a Peter 362 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: file cloud? 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 5: Now? 364 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: Who needs that playing on a pub's jukebox? 365 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 7: Eh? 366 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: So feel free to feel old and I do. But 367 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: the glory days of pop saw songs that resonated with 368 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: many ages. They saw songs that you don't need a 369 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: subscription to a Hollywood gossip service to understand, which is 370 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: why you got the Grammys. On one side, but it's 371 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: now official that Coldplay and Taylor Swift are the biggest 372 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: artists on the planet after their tours. They write proper 373 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: pop songs, and yet they weren't the big winners and 374 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: the Grammys. Now. The big issue of the day came 375 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: from David Seymour again, the ACT leader. Seior Minister has 376 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: floated taking a policy of pulling New Zealand out of 377 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: the planet at Paris Climate Agreement, and he wants to 378 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: take that to the next election get a mandate, potentially 379 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: making Paris withdrawal an ACT election promise. What do you reckon? 380 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: You can text me ninety two ninety two, And now 381 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 2: Trump's done it already. Other big nations are considering. And 382 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: it's fair to say nobody understands the mechanism or the 383 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: point of the emission's trading scheme, which feels to me 384 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: like some sort of Ponzi scheme be roarted by someone. 385 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't know who is watering it, but somebody is 386 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: pocketing all the money we send overseas. So is it 387 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: time to admit defeat and that we do ourselves no 388 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: favors by trying to lead the world from our tiny 389 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: and isolated position, or should we carry on? What do 390 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: you think? Ninety two ninety two, And we'll have more 391 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: on this just before six. It's twenty one to six. 392 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: Andrew dickens the country. We go Callum Proctor, Good morning 393 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: to you morning, Andrew. Tell me about the tyfire. 394 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 8: Well, this was the big blaze which started Thursday last week. 395 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 8: It's a huge cover twelve hundred hectares. Crews at the 396 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 8: scene still dampening down hotspots. Will South and Fire an 397 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 8: emergency now have an indication of what caused this large 398 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 8: scrub fire. They say it's thought to have been accidental 399 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 8: fire an emergency, saying prelim investigations point to an electrical 400 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 8: event involving a power line as the possible cause. Here, 401 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 8: they say, an in depth investigation will continue to determine 402 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 8: the full circumstance surrounding the Subjec fire. How's your weather, 403 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 8: callm It's mainly fine for today and today cloudy this afternoon. 404 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 8: Southerly's turned eastly at eighteen. 405 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: And I thank you and we go to chrash It's 406 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood, Good morning to you. Good morning, nig Tahoo 407 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: gets Christopher Luxem for White Tongy. 408 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, this is a rare occasion for night Tahoo. 409 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 7: This why tung Y Day. Christopher Luxon of course spending 410 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 7: the day at the Aka or Maraia. It's all Nukumdai 411 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 7: based on Banks Peninsula, probably about an hour and forty 412 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 7: five minutes from the city now. It is believed that 413 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 7: this is the first Prime Minister to visit or nuku 414 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 7: on Wy Tongy since Halen Clark in the year two thousand. 415 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 7: The event is open to the public. They are expecting 416 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 7: quite a crowd, which means, of course, lots of catering 417 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 7: to be organized and the rest of the hospitality too. 418 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 7: Runanga chair Rick Tainui says it's a great opportunity for 419 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 7: night Tahoo to spend some time with Christopher Luxeen. He 420 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 7: hopes Luxen will listen to the Corridor on the day 421 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 7: about the positive things and what's needed moving forward for 422 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 7: not only the EWEI but also the country. 423 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: And your weather. 424 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 7: Flatting over this morning there will be a spot of 425 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 7: drizzle before midday, afternoon, fine spells, southerlyes easing and a 426 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 7: high of twenty. 427 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: A Max toll is in Wellington. Good body, Max. Good 428 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: Morning's politic going to close? Oh well, So this story 429 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: is about FITA and well Tech considering closing their central 430 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: creative campus Tekahuahua, a typic king essentially reviewing its assets 431 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 2: its properties around the country with the government looking to 432 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: set up regionally autonomous institutes of tech and polytechs. This 433 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: campus on Dixon Street had only opened in twenty eighteen. 434 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: It's very lavish inside. It's got two theaters. You can 435 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: go watch comedy shows there, for instance. It's got a 436 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: fifty five seat a cinema, a gallery, a performance studio, 437 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: but unfortunately four Fitada and well Tech its numbers are 438 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: way down post COVID. It says a significant drop in enrollments. 439 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: The Terseary Education Union warning that this proposal to close 440 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: this campus is effectively a gloomy sign of further trouble ahead. Wonderful, 441 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: how's your weather? Should we mainly find a bit of 442 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: cloud this afternoon? Southerly's twenty the high central neither if 443 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: your mind? Who now joins me from Auckland? Do you 444 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: want to go for dinner at Taicho? 445 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 9: Good morning? 446 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: No? 447 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 9: I do not type people will be thinking what are 448 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 9: they talking about now? Yes, this Auckland Japanese restaurant. So 449 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 9: it's been at the center of this food borne disease. 450 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 9: But it's saying that it's cooperating with authorities following reports 451 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 9: of this outbreak. So what we know that the New 452 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 9: Zealand Food Safety was informed a number of people have 453 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 9: become unwell. So we don't have a figure on that, 454 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 9: but a few, quite a few. I can tell you 455 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 9: that this is in that outbreak. And those who outside 456 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 9: of Auckland, you know this Tycho Japanese restaurant, it's in 457 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 9: Ponsonby and that main area the are of where all 458 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 9: the eateries are so It says that this is the 459 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 9: New Zealand food safety saying, look, we've visited the restaurant 460 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 9: and working alongside Auckland Council to put corrective actions in 461 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 9: place if required. But you look on those online reviews 462 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 9: Andrew at the restaurant and so you know, lots of 463 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 9: people have put in their vomiting diarrhea O saying they've 464 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 9: had to go to hospital, to the emergency room. 465 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, it's heartbreaking for them. I've actually eaten at Taycho 466 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: have you and I lived It was actually quite nice. 467 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: But you right, you have a bad day, You have 468 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: a bad day exactly, and it only takes one goat. 469 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 9: And you don't go back. I mean, I've never been, 470 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 9: but you know obviously with us, you know you don't 471 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 9: want to poopoo things on that one. But yeah, Hawkin's weather, right, 472 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 9: it's fine apart from some morning cloud. To twenty five 473 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 9: is the. 474 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: High good stuff Neiva Retto amount of seventeen minutes to 475 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: six Should we stay in the Paris Climate Accords? Luke 476 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: writes the biggest driver of man made climate change is 477 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: dot dot dot dot dot funding good text Luke Paul 478 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: rides Great from Seymour get out of that nonsense, bureaucratic 479 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: elitist talk fest, and Ollie rides a payment of a 480 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 2: foreign tax is not going to save us. Pragmatic use 481 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: of our resources with the New Zealand will happy days. 482 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ollie. More on this just before six. 483 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: Donald to Mayo is. 484 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of 485 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business. 486 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: It's fourteen to six, fourteen minutes away from the make 487 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: Hostking breakfast and we go off to Australia and Donna Demayo, Hello, Donna, 488 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: good morning. All right, it's all about sharks. One kid's 489 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: dead and another woman attacked in Sydney right by the 490 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: Opera House. 491 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 10: Oh, this is dreadful to hear that a seventeen year 492 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 10: old has lost her life. She was swimming at Bribie Island, 493 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 10: north of Brisbane late yesterday afternoon and we hear that 494 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 10: there were injuries to her upper body. Surf Life Saving 495 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 10: were on duty at the time. Paramedics headed to Wooham 496 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 10: Beach and unfortunately the young woman, this seventeen year old, 497 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 10: died from her injuries. This is the place very popular 498 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 10: with locals. They swim there, they serve there they go. 499 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 10: Fishing also very popular with tourists on the southeast side 500 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 10: of the island, which is what is called an open 501 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 10: surf beach. The other side is more calm. Admittedly now 502 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 10: it's reported that there were drum lines actually in place. Also, 503 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 10: it's supposed to catch sharks using bait and large hooks, 504 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 10: and the locals already said that, look, they know that 505 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 10: there are a lot of sharks in those waters, but 506 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 10: it's the shock that this shark got so close to shore. 507 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 10: Third shark attack in Queensland in less than three months, 508 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 10: and it's the second fatal shark attack in just over 509 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 10: a month. 510 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: All right. Meanwhile, Neo Nazi's suffering given more of a 511 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: crackdown in Australia. 512 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 10: Yes, the Labor government has rolled out these new sanctions 513 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 10: for Nia Nazi groups, targeting these white supremacist groups in 514 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 10: the wake of a raft of anti Semitism and a 515 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 10: spate of it. So Foreign Mister Petty Wong says that 516 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 10: the government needs to use all the tools to tackle antisemitism, 517 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 10: So they're focusing on something called Terragram, which is an 518 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 10: online network that enables these groups to bred hate, she says, 519 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 10: and this is an example of what she says, using 520 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 10: all those tools to prevent the rise of extremism. So 521 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 10: these sanctions mean now that any engagement with Terogram is 522 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 10: a criminal offense. And if you're fan ten years in prison. 523 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: Donald Demayo out of Australia, I thank you. It is 524 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: our twelve to six Dickens all right. New Zealand's future 525 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: involvement in the Paris Agreement is up in the air. 526 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: David Seymour has hinted that ACT may campaign on leaving 527 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: the accord after the twenty twenty six election. Now, Donald 528 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: Trump's already pulled the United States from the scheme and 529 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: has fortnight of action, and there's concerned that other big 530 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: admitters could pack their bags too. Talks it up to 531 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: fifty percent of the people. It might be countries might 532 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 2: be leaving now. The Associate Professor of Environmental Law at 533 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: the University of Wayhadow is doctor Nathan John Cooper, who 534 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: joins me. Now, hell, Nathan. 535 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 4: Kyoto, good morning. 536 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: Is the whole agreement in trouble with so many people 537 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: saying we're pulling. 538 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: Out, Well, I think that's premature. One of the great 539 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: successes of the Paris Agreement was just how many countries 540 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 4: signed up, and so while while obviously the US has 541 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: signaled that it's beginning to withdraw, I think the vast 542 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: majority of countries are going to remain in that framework 543 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: for the CIBUL future. 544 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: But if the bigger MISSUS leave, you know, if the 545 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: US leaves as it already has, if China and India 546 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: decided to scalper, why should a little old New Zealand stay? 547 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think China, India or Russia are likely 548 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 4: to leave. However, I think climate change, which obviously is 549 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: the big challenge that the Paris Agreement is there to 550 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: respond to, it's a global challenge, and so it really 551 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense for individual countries to move away from 552 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: a framework that pulls together our contributions, coordinates things, monitors 553 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: them in favor of just some sort of independent action. 554 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: But is it fit to say that a lot of 555 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: people have fallen out of the Paris Climate Accords because 556 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: of the mechanisms use to combat climate change, that they 557 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: feel theoretical, that they don't feel like they're actually going 558 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: to make any change, and they're expensive. 559 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: Sure, there's no doubt that some of the action that's 560 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: required is expensive. And it's inconvenient as we transition towards 561 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: sort of low carbon options. That's all pretty inconvenient, but 562 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, that needs to be 563 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: balanced against the size of the problem that's being faced. 564 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: I know the problem, I know their problem. But does 565 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: the other climate accords the solution? Are they working? Have 566 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: we seen any of these these mechanisms work? 567 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: I suppose it depends what you mean by work. Ultimately, 568 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: the Paris agreement's there to try to strengthen global response 569 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: to climate change, principally by limiting global average temperature rise. Now, 570 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: we saw in twenty twenty four that actually, over the 571 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: course of that year the average temperature rise compared to 572 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: period industrial levels was around about that one point five degrees, 573 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: which has always been the sort of first Paris Paris target. 574 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: So in that respect, the world is warming, it's warming 575 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 4: quicker than we wanted to, and so you could say 576 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: that it's not succeeding. But if we look a little 577 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: bit deeper as to why maybe there's less success under 578 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 4: the Paris Agreement than we would have liked, a lot 579 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 4: of it is that commitments are made by countries, but 580 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: that we don't actually follow through with those commitments, so. 581 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: In which case it doesn't work. So people it's what 582 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: people will say is it's virtue signaling. We go to 583 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: a meeting, we say big stuff, we do nothing, So 584 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: what's the point. 585 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: Sure, I think there's a long way between doing everything 586 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: that's required and the alternatives doing nothing. So countries are 587 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: stepping up, and it's been encouraging to see recently that 588 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: some countries newly announced nationally determined contributions they're kind of 589 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: pledged for the next round of emissions reductions have been 590 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: pretty ambitious. Unfortunately, I don't think New Zealand's own pledgure 591 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: has been as ambitious as it could have been. 592 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 5: But there's definitely a big car. 593 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 4: Sorry no, but there's definitely quite a lot of examples 594 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: there as to how the Paris Agreement is encouraging countries 595 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 4: to step up in a way that we've never seen before. 596 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the biggest, it's the biggest climate agreement, 597 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: is the biggest international treaty that we've seen. 598 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: All right, Doctor Nathan John Cooper, I thank you for 599 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: your time. Associate Professor of Environmental Law, University of Waykota. 600 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: David Seymour is wanting to leave and now, of course 601 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: he becomes the acting Prime Minister, doesn't he He's the 602 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: deputy from now on. And this is going to put 603 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: Christopher luxon and yet another interesting position. So we'll wait 604 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: to see about that. You can tax ninety two to 605 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: ninety two, and I can tell you are if you 606 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: have something to say about this. Seven to six. 607 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: Consider the first word on the News of the Day 608 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one room to make 609 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: your property search and simple. 610 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: You talk zippy, Yeah, you don't like it. We should 611 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: pull out of the Paris Agreement before it bankrupts us 612 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: Saul who says it's a global wealth transfer system. Ben 613 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: wanted me to ask the professor of environmental law what 614 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: has the money been spent on so far? And Brent reckons, 615 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: thank god, a little sense of the world. We should 616 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: pull out of the Climate Accord. Doesn't make a difference 617 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: to the climate. No, does it cost us money? 618 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: Yes? 619 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: Why are we in a politics? Let's tackle real pollution? 620 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: Thank you. 621 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two, Small charge of players. Mike Cosking 622 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: call morning. 623 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 11: I will be asking, funnily enough, the Prime Minister, who 624 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 11: will be in this very studio this morning about the 625 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 11: B and Z speaking of climate change and their desire 626 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 11: to close down legitimate businesses as a result of Paris. 627 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 11: So if we pull out of Paris be interesting to think, 628 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 11: isn't it? Because Seymour taps into that zeitgeist and there's 629 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 11: a certain percentage of people who will be going about time. 630 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 11: Fantastic good on him. 631 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: Graham's just said, mister Seymour has hit the nail straight again. 632 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 11: Problem is they said that a lot before the last 633 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 11: election on a lot of different things. Treaty Principles Bill 634 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 11: is probably a good example, but they don't get the vote. 635 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 11: You know, it's all very well going, Yes, go David 636 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 11: and all that sort of stuff. At eight percent? Eight percent, 637 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 11: isn't it at the end of the day. But Prime 638 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 11: Minister's on the program do you want to play but 639 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 11: a quick pop quiz? And I'm being unfair to you. Yeah, 640 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 11: but I'm only I'm only doing this because you're a 641 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 11: music person. 642 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've already ranted about the Grammys. I'm not 643 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: happy about the Grammys. It doesn't like the music and 644 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: the Grammys. 645 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 11: Greg Johnson, Greg Johnson, Yeah, what was his third album? 646 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 11: Oh Jesus Hotel, No good, good, guess good guess by Vine. 647 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: Streets, Sinestree Stories. Where did he record that? 648 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 11: Don't know? 649 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: In the basement of his home? 650 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 11: Yes, and Vine he rolled a grand piano. 651 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: Yes, well done. There we go? And where is Vine Street? St? 652 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: Mary's Bay? I thought in the monopoly we used to 653 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: we used to teach them about that. Oh, Greg, you're 654 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: a struggling musician, struggling in Saint Mary's Bay? Are we here? 655 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: We go? 656 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 11: Anyway, I'm gonna tell you that he's on the program 657 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 11: today because we get to the country for another two 658 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 11: and he was close to the fires. Yes, he was, 659 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 11: very much so you evacuated. 660 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 661 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 662 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.